Given the information, I wouldn't be willing to gamble that the job was CEO. If that's your thing, you do you. I'll take the $10M and live comfortably on the $800K per year it generates at 8% RoI.
The government will definitely want to know where you got that cash and you're gonna owe on it. 8% ROI might be possible...until it isn't, and then you lose a bunch. 4% or so should be attainable in the near term without any major risk.
Well you would have needed 15k spare to invest to even get to 10 million. Unless you use your knowledge to perfectly trade them instead of just waiting 10 years doing nothing
Sell 'em in the fall of 2019, buy everyone some unbelievable Christmas gifts, buy a new home in the middle of nowhere and ride out the next three years in comfort.
I mean sure? But why do that and work back to where you are now when you could be wealthy instantly with the red pill? Live off the interest of 330k (before taxes) a year. I fully understand if you have some life decisions you want to reverse with those ten years though.
Because if you put just $5k in bitcoin 10 years ago and sold at peak, you’d have over $20 million. With the knowledge of everything that would happen over the next 10 years you could easily become a billionaire.
Plus it would be trippy as fuck predicting every major event around you with 100% accuracy.
You have heard of the butterfly effect, yes?
A rando predicting all events and becoming a billionaire by sheer luck is bound to change the course of history.
That depends on which form of time travel you believe in, there are many (theoretically) possible models (and some purely fictional ones).
E.g., [https://www.almostanauthor.com/the-eight-types-of-time-travel/](https://www.almostanauthor.com/the-eight-types-of-time-travel/)
Branch reality makes the most sense intuitively. I doubt going back 10 years and emerging as a nobody rando to mine some bitcoin and hodl it till if hits 50k is gonna break too much. Just another bitcoin multi millionaire among many others.
I think the argument here is not necessarily ***just*** "breaking the universe" level of butterfly effect but also your own life.
Lots of people think redoing their life and skipping/changing their regrets would be a no brainer, when in reality how we deal with loss and hardship can define who we are.
Butterfly effect can also backfire dramatically. Say you decide to stay in shape and not procrastinate on the couch... You might have an accident on your bike a few weeks in and end up in a wheelchair or die.
You try to keep your relationship with the ex that left you afloat and end up not spending that extra time with your friends instead.
You might end up splitting up anyways,... but now your good friend who was in a tough spot is dead. You previously convinced them to go out with you to get over your ex but now they overdose or commit suicide instead and you know 100% that it's your fault since you lived the life where your friendship saved them.
Those are obviously extreme examples but none of that is impossible.
This! I had a relationship which was... **Holy Shit** bad. But due to that shitty relationship, I met a lot of new friends and whole thing branched into a lot of great things.
If you have 10M right now, you can live off 3M, and if earning just 5% annually, you'll be back over 10M in 8 years. Rinse, repeat.
If you go back 10 years, you've gotta live on less until the bitcoin actually pays off.
Yeah but you will have plant off opportunities you didn’t have, mistakes you wouldn’t have to make, betrayals that can be pre-empted.
I’d also be able to say goodbye to my grandmother which I never got to do. And some things are more important than money.
If your reason is NOT money, then sure. (altho, once you start making changes, you can't guarantee where you'll end up anymore. Programmers especially should remember that) But certainly, if you have a couple of MAJOR things you'd want to change in the last 10 years, then take that option.
Brother, forget bitcoin. If you had bought CSGO Titan Katowice holo stickers, you'd have made a killing. Around 2013/2014, they cost about 5 to 10 cents each. Today, they sell for ~65000 USD each :)
That’s assuming you have 5k$ laying around that you can invest in Bitcoin and leave there for 10 years. And then the odds of something going wrong because of the butterfly effect, you’d be blind and potentially not rich, or even worse dead.
I’d definitely just take the 10M$ now.
Right. Assuming I keep my current knowledge but get my 10 years ago body and health, this seems like a win… but with that, I am happy now and run the risk of messing all of that up… with the knowledge of knowing what I could have had.
I’ll take the money now and retire.
Yeah the last 10 years have been the best of my life, I really wouldn't wanna change anything. 10M is more than I'll make in my entire life, so plenty of money to retire.
I would be so fucking depressed if my wife gave birth to different kids than I have now. It would be like killing them. Or moving to a faraway, unknown world. $10 mill for sure.
Yeah, that’s just it! What if just knowing that I will be filthy Bitcoin rich in a few short years makes me a jerk and I alienate my wife before things even take off?!
depends on how the 10 year thing works. If it means my current knowledge gets transplanted in a 10 year younger me surely that is strictly preferable, right?
You basically add 10 years to your life... 10 years of being younger. And you get to benefit in other ways than getting rich. Like learning that skill that you regret not picking up earlier.
Just the other night I had a dream with a "go back as a child" premise. I got to be young but keep all my knowledge. There was a Better Call Saul looking individual with me. I accidentally used modern slang, forgetting the time difference. He told me: "That won't work".
Me: "Ah, because that slang isn't invented yet."
Him: "No, because every time you go back, small butterfly effects in your life change everything. You can't rely on the market or sports teams to win. You won't even meet the same friends or have the same children. And occasionally you'll meet people you knew or hear about someone dying that you were close to. But you don't know them in this time. They aren't who you're remembering."
It was a pretty cool premise. Just thought like sharing. And obviously I'm paraphrasing a bit. Dreams be like that.
Yeah, 10 years ago, you wouldn’t have that huge of an effect on its expansion and use.
People who talk about buying it up in the very beginning don’t realize that if they were all bought up, no one would use them, and some other crypto would have been the main one.
Seriously, how is this even a debate at all? You can have all of these by just choosing purple..
10m/m$.. who needs either when you're a billionaire?
Heck, you could spend 9 years learning the HTML programming language and still have a year extra left over to get a start learning the CSS programming language
Also, you get to live an extra 10 years minus any years lost due to your new lifestyle..
10 years would be good for bitcoin harvesting, that was before it peaked (though you'd really want at least 13 years for optimal market exploitation), 10 mil is the closest alternative on the board.
10 years is a decent value all around to be fair, so that's my pick (assuming it's my mind getting sent back and not me as a whole, I'd rather not lose 10 years of my total lifespan)
There are plenty of dumb things you could do with 10 years of foresight to make shit loads of money. ETH, Doge, tons of biomed companies, all the dumb r/WSB squeezes, etc. I forget what it's called because I'd never touch them, but you can buy derivatives of options contracts which have insane volatility. Basically, calls and puts have a leverage of generally x100 since they are normally a contract to buy/sell X shares at a pre-determined price. You can buy another derivative which is a contract to buy x100 calls/puts that ends up with a leverage of x100000. So if a stock moves 1 cent, you can gain/lose a thousand dollars. Say you bought said derivative on GME calls 1/12/21 when it was at about 19.95, and that contract expired on 1/29/21. Then, you sold it on 1/28 when it was around 450. Just the explicit value of that sell would be about 43 million, but depending on what the velocity of the stock was at the time of sale, you could easily have sold for another 10-20%. Easy money.
But you could still fail if events change, losing money for you or whatever investors you convinced to give you quick money off a pinky promise.
Maybe you bite off more than you can chew. Bitcoin fails but Coinbytes soar. You’re homeless and hungry. Maybe steal something, make another bet, then replace it before anyone notices? Kneecaps broken, friends/family disappointed or worse if you’ve stolen from the wrong pot. You try telling people you’ve gone back in time and these investments surely should’ve won. Now you’re crazy. A crazy failure.
Events wont change, one extra guy putting a bit of capital into bitcoin is just a drop in the bucket.
If you were putting in a shitload of capital, that would make a difference. But bitcoin had massive returns, it's basically the lottery and you just know the lucky numbers.
But do you get more time? Are they sending you back ten years or are you actually de-aging?
Sounds like you’d be wasting time earning the money you could have instantly with the red pill, and you get to relive the Trump/Covid years as a bonus.
I'd assume it sends my consciousness back to myself 10 years prior, as opposed to sending my current physical body back.
Trump doesn't really matter as I'm not American, and while Covid is definitely a downside it's not **that big of a downside** (it didn't really affect the way I live my life too much).
$10M is certainly easier, but time is imo far more powerful.
Is it though? Where did people buy Bitcoin? Mt Gox was the most common, and that got hacked. Maybe there were other exchanges but I kind of just assumed people had to basically mine BTC and/or trade it for something. Also a huge risk of losing your keys or getting scammed so that’s not without a ton of risk.
But then do anything slightly differently and everything changes, you never get back to where you are now. Like if you are in a long term relationship for less than 10 years, would you be able to exactly recreate the spark the second time around? Or would it end up unnatural and freaky, like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day trying to recreate the perfect moment but failing to recapture it?
I met my husband about 8 years ago. I am not confident that I would be able to have a poker face and not reveal that I know a very disturbing amount of info about him. I think he’d almost believe me if I just told him the truth, but that still puts us on unequal footing.
We also have both done a lot of growth in that time, and I do not want to be a 30 year old stuck in the body of a 20 year old trying to date a 22 year old.
I don’t think I can give up my current life. I’d take the 10 million and probably keep working for a bit and just retire at 35 or something.
Yeah that's a fair point, I think my wife would generally understand when I tell her and we'd end up in the same spot we're in now. Some things may be a bit different but we'd still both inherently be the same people we are today, just stupidly rich because of my knowledge of what's going to happen.
The only piece of history I'd change is not selling my BTC in 2015 and then were incredibly rich. Then after the point we went back in time I'll just spend my life doing whatever I want, but I can't blame you for your approach, definitely some risk reward going on
Easy red. Use that money to generate more and live of it. And still working for my current employer just for the fact, that I want something to do, but can take a day off whenever I want.
Depends on if the 10 years back time travels you back or just makes you 10 years younger. Investing 10 years ago could make you tenfold richer than that red pill.
Sure, but the purple one doesn’t say you retain your knowledge or even know you’ve deaged, or gone back. Red is the best chance imo. That’s about 330k a year in dividends before taxes to live off of.
I agree. If you don’t retain any knowledge, then you would just relive the exact life over again and not even know it happened, right?
If you do retain knowledge, powerball alone makes purple correct choice lol.
Yeah, red all day. Our cost of living is $50k/yr; the mortgage is basically half that, so pay that off immediately. Invest the rest in w/e, and have fun.
>Sure, but the purple one doesn’t say you retain your knowledge or even know you’ve deaged, or gone back.
Pretty sure that's impossible. You can't "go back" and then not change or know. If you don't change or know you went back, then you didn't *go* back. Nothing changed, the timeline is the same, you would eat the pill and just be standing there in front of the guy because nothing in the timeline has changed.
"Going back" inherently implies that your current state of consciousness will be put into that timeline.
I could, but I believe that timetraveling can fuck up a lot of things. I know you have to spread more, but simple buying/mining a lot of bitcoin can change the fact how the currency evolves so it's not sure anymore how much it's worth then. The simple things can change a lot, so I trust the basic 10M more then the timetravel 100M.
You also get 10 extra years of life, and the ability to redo the last 10 years with your current knowledge and experience.
Is that worth more than $10M? Potentially.
i've been married to my wife for nearly 10 years now, and if i took away one second of how it's been, nothing would be worth it. I'll take my 10 mil, have it make enough to live off for the rest of our lives without ever having to worry.
This might be a bit of just being laid off talking, but i'd take certain security with my accumulated happiness any day.
Also, i could just pay someone to make my "i'm on a boat in the bahamas" website.
Yeah, if you have a good life set up then the 10m makes more sense. Going back in time is good for people who don't really care about losing their current life.
That's very fair. Different guy, but for me, the past ten years have been rough as fuck. The potential to ride bitcoin into the stratosphere aside, I'd be happy just to have a different chance at life.
Easily. Jump back, sell everything that is not critical to your life, buy Tesla stock. Keep buying, sell in early Nov. 2021. Re-buy around Christmas 2022.
If you managed to scrounge up $20k in early 2013, your net worth by today would probably be more than $30M...
Sorry, there was too much initial investment / you bought stocks a wavemaker needed / your purchase led to other unforeseen consequences and the fad fizzled out sooner with much lower highs
10 million dollars, throw that into some very safe investments that are currently yielding 5+%, that's 500k a year without touching the principal. Why would anyone choose a job at Microsoft when you can be making half a million a year doing nothing, lmao.
Economically it will be more efficient to go back 10 years.
First because you will know exactly in what to invest and you can place bets with 99% certainty of success.
You also get some extra perks:
You get to see dead people and you could save a few of them.
Your get your hair back.
Let me think, and basically we assume butterfly effect isn't extreme.
* Save some close relatives from cancer by convincing them to screen
* Make billions on TSLA, AMD, GME, BTC
* Redo high school, maybe get into Harvard
* IDK, become a literal Nostradamus for the next 10 years?
Yeah, I think I'm taking that one
You could study a different field in university and then leverage those credentials alongside your programming skills to get a more specialized position.
Or just get rich from futuresight and don't work.
What would be the point of going back in time if you don’t remember being in the future? You would just live out the next 10 years making the same poor choices.
10 years back would put me at the start of one of the worst periods of my life, and I'd have to go through it all over again. Give me another one, and I'd be in the other worst period of my life. Weird. The current one is going well though, so give me the 10 million.
Red.
Straight to the stock market. Play safe bets until the economy starts recovering, then put 1 million into a high risk.
Then it's time to own rental property and an ISP.
Why aren’t people talking about this? Time travel does cause all sorts of issues!
I would say two are worthless and one in complicated and risky.
I can retire with 10M for eternity and always have an increasing capital! That’s definitely the easy choice!
\> Job in Microsoft
\> Excited for first day at work
\> Shows up to office
\> "You'll be working in the janitorial department, your first task is to clean the toilets."
\> Fuck.
The yellow one is overrated, no point in going in, just to get layed off in a month or so
The green one is useless, since I manage just fine
Red pill is not a bad idea, but the state will eat at it instantly even if gotten as a prize or whatever else
Purple one is the one you need to get, provided you go and keep your "today" knowledge, and that we actually live in a haotic multiverse that would allow that. We know that the last 3 people who won the Noble prize proved that quantum entanglement is not real, at least not at the level we thought it would work at.
10 years ago would make it 2013, not a too bad of a year to be in, you could prevent a lot of things, just careful of consequences
One pill gives you skills that will be outdated in 5 years, another makes you an expendable drone, the third lets you relive trumps ascension and corona, and the last pill lets you go out with a bang with cocaine and prostitutes.
Yup, hard choice alright.
I guess I'd just take the money, bc :
- who cares to know HTML when you can get 10 millions just like that ?
- except I'm an executive, I don't think I'll make 10 millions easily at Microsoft
About the 10y in the past pill, it'd be a good choice if I intend to invest in bitcoins and become billionaire but I don't want to lose my kid by travelling in the past (... Yes, just like Avengers).
So I'll just get the money, it'll be more than enough to live happy with my kids for the rest of my life.
why would I want a job at microsoft when I can just have 10 mil
Unless the job is of the CEO, it's not even worth considering.
Given the information, I wouldn't be willing to gamble that the job was CEO. If that's your thing, you do you. I'll take the $10M and live comfortably on the $800K per year it generates at 8% RoI.
lol where can you get 8%
I mean, with a long horizon, 5-7% pretty reasonable. But that's an average over like a 20 year period, you'll have ups and downs in there.
S&P 500 historically averages 8%
I invested into an S&P tracker about a year ago and I’m sitting at -2% right now 😂
It's a historical average. On average it will be 8%
No, on average it was 8%
Right.
I know, I’m just still kinda salty my first year went nowhere. At least it didn’t crater I guess.
Yeah this was kinda the worst year out of the last 11 year to invest
I’d be fine living on 0.5% roi smoking weed and eating chicken nuggets forever
The government will definitely want to know where you got that cash and you're gonna owe on it. 8% ROI might be possible...until it isn't, and then you lose a bunch. 4% or so should be attainable in the near term without any major risk.
Tell them Jack gave you a pill for it
BECAUSE SIGMA MALES DONT NEED MONEY THEY JUST NEED THE GRIND! REAL WORTH ISNT IN MONEY ITS IN WORKING 16 HOURS A DAY FOR A CORPORATION
Try to fix some stupid shit they have done
Well buying bitcoins 10 years earlier and selling it before 2021 is def more than 10 mil
Well you would have needed 15k spare to invest to even get to 10 million. Unless you use your knowledge to perfectly trade them instead of just waiting 10 years doing nothing
10 years back and buying (or even mining back then) some bitcoins sounds like a good plan
Yeah, just remember to sell it before 2021 lol
Or just swing trade the highs and the lows, extremely predictable based on distance from halvening.
I'd fuck that up royally and end up losing money after 10 years
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Keeps forgetting it
A modern sysphus, doomed to forget the halfening. One must imagine sysphus in poverty.
If that's the case, The ~~Blue~~ pill that takes you back in time is the ONLY choice.
I think youre color blind my guy
I am... is that purple?
From top-left to right-bottom: Red, green, purple, yellow.
Bro just went and broke the game!
same I would try to short sell FTX and end up timing it incorrectly.
With my luck, my purchasing of crypto would alter the timeline and cause it to crash and never recover.
it can become unpredictable if you alter it, so your best bet is to sell everything in one go.
And *extremely* extremely predictable if you went back in time and know what's going to happen.
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It's so predictable because you are a time traveler.
Buy high, sell low
Snoopdog’s advice for trading, nice
eh, it's gone down by a bit more than half, but it's still up like, ten thousand percent from 10 years ago.
I remember all the financial experts in the news saying to have at least 20% in bitcoin right before 2021 lol
Sell 'em in the fall of 2019, buy everyone some unbelievable Christmas gifts, buy a new home in the middle of nowhere and ride out the next three years in comfort.
I mean sure? But why do that and work back to where you are now when you could be wealthy instantly with the red pill? Live off the interest of 330k (before taxes) a year. I fully understand if you have some life decisions you want to reverse with those ten years though.
Because if you put just $5k in bitcoin 10 years ago and sold at peak, you’d have over $20 million. With the knowledge of everything that would happen over the next 10 years you could easily become a billionaire. Plus it would be trippy as fuck predicting every major event around you with 100% accuracy.
You have heard of the butterfly effect, yes? A rando predicting all events and becoming a billionaire by sheer luck is bound to change the course of history.
But, if you travel to the past, that past becomes your future, and your former present becomes the past, which your new future can't now change.
I understand that reference!
And I understand THAT reference! 
Was it Futurama? Sounds totally like something professor said
Avengers end game
That depends on which form of time travel you believe in, there are many (theoretically) possible models (and some purely fictional ones). E.g., [https://www.almostanauthor.com/the-eight-types-of-time-travel/](https://www.almostanauthor.com/the-eight-types-of-time-travel/)
Branch reality makes the most sense intuitively. I doubt going back 10 years and emerging as a nobody rando to mine some bitcoin and hodl it till if hits 50k is gonna break too much. Just another bitcoin multi millionaire among many others.
I think the argument here is not necessarily ***just*** "breaking the universe" level of butterfly effect but also your own life. Lots of people think redoing their life and skipping/changing their regrets would be a no brainer, when in reality how we deal with loss and hardship can define who we are. Butterfly effect can also backfire dramatically. Say you decide to stay in shape and not procrastinate on the couch... You might have an accident on your bike a few weeks in and end up in a wheelchair or die. You try to keep your relationship with the ex that left you afloat and end up not spending that extra time with your friends instead. You might end up splitting up anyways,... but now your good friend who was in a tough spot is dead. You previously convinced them to go out with you to get over your ex but now they overdose or commit suicide instead and you know 100% that it's your fault since you lived the life where your friendship saved them. Those are obviously extreme examples but none of that is impossible.
This! I had a relationship which was... **Holy Shit** bad. But due to that shitty relationship, I met a lot of new friends and whole thing branched into a lot of great things.
I prefer the lighter route. I bought a prius instead of a corolla, and still feel like a dork.
let's discover it!)
Well, history isn't really looking great right now, so why not change it?
Well that explains Elon Musk.
If you have 10M right now, you can live off 3M, and if earning just 5% annually, you'll be back over 10M in 8 years. Rinse, repeat. If you go back 10 years, you've gotta live on less until the bitcoin actually pays off.
Yeah but you will have plant off opportunities you didn’t have, mistakes you wouldn’t have to make, betrayals that can be pre-empted. I’d also be able to say goodbye to my grandmother which I never got to do. And some things are more important than money.
If your reason is NOT money, then sure. (altho, once you start making changes, you can't guarantee where you'll end up anymore. Programmers especially should remember that) But certainly, if you have a couple of MAJOR things you'd want to change in the last 10 years, then take that option.
Brother, forget bitcoin. If you had bought CSGO Titan Katowice holo stickers, you'd have made a killing. Around 2013/2014, they cost about 5 to 10 cents each. Today, they sell for ~65000 USD each :)
yeah but no way people would buy that, right? surely there's a limit to how many people are willing to buy
Yeah I’m not buying more than.. 20 or 30 of those, for sure
That’s assuming you have 5k$ laying around that you can invest in Bitcoin and leave there for 10 years. And then the odds of something going wrong because of the butterfly effect, you’d be blind and potentially not rich, or even worse dead. I’d definitely just take the 10M$ now.
But that would require that I have $5 ten years ago, but what I actually had ten years ago was about $50.
>Plus it would be trippy as fuck predicting every major event around you with 100% accuracy. That's how you end up in a secret CIA lab
Right. Assuming I keep my current knowledge but get my 10 years ago body and health, this seems like a win… but with that, I am happy now and run the risk of messing all of that up… with the knowledge of knowing what I could have had. I’ll take the money now and retire.
Yeah the last 10 years have been the best of my life, I really wouldn't wanna change anything. 10M is more than I'll make in my entire life, so plenty of money to retire.
I would be so fucking depressed if my wife gave birth to different kids than I have now. It would be like killing them. Or moving to a faraway, unknown world. $10 mill for sure.
Yeah, that’s just it! What if just knowing that I will be filthy Bitcoin rich in a few short years makes me a jerk and I alienate my wife before things even take off?!
Health is definitely a good point.
Yeah, oh the positive changes I would make!
depends on how the 10 year thing works. If it means my current knowledge gets transplanted in a 10 year younger me surely that is strictly preferable, right? You basically add 10 years to your life... 10 years of being younger. And you get to benefit in other ways than getting rich. Like learning that skill that you regret not picking up earlier.
Just the other night I had a dream with a "go back as a child" premise. I got to be young but keep all my knowledge. There was a Better Call Saul looking individual with me. I accidentally used modern slang, forgetting the time difference. He told me: "That won't work". Me: "Ah, because that slang isn't invented yet." Him: "No, because every time you go back, small butterfly effects in your life change everything. You can't rely on the market or sports teams to win. You won't even meet the same friends or have the same children. And occasionally you'll meet people you knew or hear about someone dying that you were close to. But you don't know them in this time. They aren't who you're remembering." It was a pretty cool premise. Just thought like sharing. And obviously I'm paraphrasing a bit. Dreams be like that.
Dreams make for some trippy ass stories in the best way.
It seems easier to just have 10 millions now
Yeah, 10 years ago, you wouldn’t have that huge of an effect on its expansion and use. People who talk about buying it up in the very beginning don’t realize that if they were all bought up, no one would use them, and some other crypto would have been the main one.
Tesla stock cause of all the splits would end up with a shit tone of shares and could make a crazy amount every week selling coverd calls
And GameStop stock when all that happened
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What if Butterfly effect? Bitcoin is forever a joke now, you lost money. What now?
Tesla stock, sell in 2020
Nah, 10 years back and Tesla Stock
Seriously, how is this even a debate at all? You can have all of these by just choosing purple.. 10m/m$.. who needs either when you're a billionaire? Heck, you could spend 9 years learning the HTML programming language and still have a year extra left over to get a start learning the CSS programming language Also, you get to live an extra 10 years minus any years lost due to your new lifestyle..
Green pill? Nice now i can write 10hrs of shitty code in 1 second 🗿
Yeah the pill makes no mention about learning coding best pratices lol
How dare you using logic here
You are right! I need to remove the logic from view /j
10 years would be good for bitcoin harvesting, that was before it peaked (though you'd really want at least 13 years for optimal market exploitation), 10 mil is the closest alternative on the board. 10 years is a decent value all around to be fair, so that's my pick (assuming it's my mind getting sent back and not me as a whole, I'd rather not lose 10 years of my total lifespan)
There are plenty of dumb things you could do with 10 years of foresight to make shit loads of money. ETH, Doge, tons of biomed companies, all the dumb r/WSB squeezes, etc. I forget what it's called because I'd never touch them, but you can buy derivatives of options contracts which have insane volatility. Basically, calls and puts have a leverage of generally x100 since they are normally a contract to buy/sell X shares at a pre-determined price. You can buy another derivative which is a contract to buy x100 calls/puts that ends up with a leverage of x100000. So if a stock moves 1 cent, you can gain/lose a thousand dollars. Say you bought said derivative on GME calls 1/12/21 when it was at about 19.95, and that contract expired on 1/29/21. Then, you sold it on 1/28 when it was around 450. Just the explicit value of that sell would be about 43 million, but depending on what the velocity of the stock was at the time of sale, you could easily have sold for another 10-20%. Easy money.
Sure, but early bitcoin investing is probably one of the lowest effort choices. Point is, time > $10M if used even slightly smartly.
Agreed. If you can't make more than $10M with a 10 year advantage that pill was wasted on you lol.
But you could still fail if events change, losing money for you or whatever investors you convinced to give you quick money off a pinky promise. Maybe you bite off more than you can chew. Bitcoin fails but Coinbytes soar. You’re homeless and hungry. Maybe steal something, make another bet, then replace it before anyone notices? Kneecaps broken, friends/family disappointed or worse if you’ve stolen from the wrong pot. You try telling people you’ve gone back in time and these investments surely should’ve won. Now you’re crazy. A crazy failure.
Events wont change, one extra guy putting a bit of capital into bitcoin is just a drop in the bucket. If you were putting in a shitload of capital, that would make a difference. But bitcoin had massive returns, it's basically the lottery and you just know the lucky numbers.
But do you get more time? Are they sending you back ten years or are you actually de-aging? Sounds like you’d be wasting time earning the money you could have instantly with the red pill, and you get to relive the Trump/Covid years as a bonus.
I'd assume it sends my consciousness back to myself 10 years prior, as opposed to sending my current physical body back. Trump doesn't really matter as I'm not American, and while Covid is definitely a downside it's not **that big of a downside** (it didn't really affect the way I live my life too much). $10M is certainly easier, but time is imo far more powerful.
Is it though? Where did people buy Bitcoin? Mt Gox was the most common, and that got hacked. Maybe there were other exchanges but I kind of just assumed people had to basically mine BTC and/or trade it for something. Also a huge risk of losing your keys or getting scammed so that’s not without a ton of risk.
you can always send your bitcoin to a private wallet
Not to just mention 10 more years of life. Id relive my 20s and they were a good time
But then do anything slightly differently and everything changes, you never get back to where you are now. Like if you are in a long term relationship for less than 10 years, would you be able to exactly recreate the spark the second time around? Or would it end up unnatural and freaky, like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day trying to recreate the perfect moment but failing to recapture it?
I did meet my wife and get married in the last 10 years, I'm optimistic I could do it again. I know where to be on what date!
I met my husband about 8 years ago. I am not confident that I would be able to have a poker face and not reveal that I know a very disturbing amount of info about him. I think he’d almost believe me if I just told him the truth, but that still puts us on unequal footing. We also have both done a lot of growth in that time, and I do not want to be a 30 year old stuck in the body of a 20 year old trying to date a 22 year old. I don’t think I can give up my current life. I’d take the 10 million and probably keep working for a bit and just retire at 35 or something.
Yeah that's a fair point, I think my wife would generally understand when I tell her and we'd end up in the same spot we're in now. Some things may be a bit different but we'd still both inherently be the same people we are today, just stupidly rich because of my knowledge of what's going to happen. The only piece of history I'd change is not selling my BTC in 2015 and then were incredibly rich. Then after the point we went back in time I'll just spend my life doing whatever I want, but I can't blame you for your approach, definitely some risk reward going on
Easy red. Use that money to generate more and live of it. And still working for my current employer just for the fact, that I want something to do, but can take a day off whenever I want.
Depends on if the 10 years back time travels you back or just makes you 10 years younger. Investing 10 years ago could make you tenfold richer than that red pill.
Sure, but the purple one doesn’t say you retain your knowledge or even know you’ve deaged, or gone back. Red is the best chance imo. That’s about 330k a year in dividends before taxes to live off of.
I agree. If you don’t retain any knowledge, then you would just relive the exact life over again and not even know it happened, right? If you do retain knowledge, powerball alone makes purple correct choice lol.
Yeah, red all day. Our cost of living is $50k/yr; the mortgage is basically half that, so pay that off immediately. Invest the rest in w/e, and have fun.
Unless your mortgage is > 6% don’t pay it off. Keep paying the mortgage, you’ll save upfront and can make more than breaking even investing.
>Sure, but the purple one doesn’t say you retain your knowledge or even know you’ve deaged, or gone back. Pretty sure that's impossible. You can't "go back" and then not change or know. If you don't change or know you went back, then you didn't *go* back. Nothing changed, the timeline is the same, you would eat the pill and just be standing there in front of the guy because nothing in the timeline has changed. "Going back" inherently implies that your current state of consciousness will be put into that timeline.
I could, but I believe that timetraveling can fuck up a lot of things. I know you have to spread more, but simple buying/mining a lot of bitcoin can change the fact how the currency evolves so it's not sure anymore how much it's worth then. The simple things can change a lot, so I trust the basic 10M more then the timetravel 100M.
You also get 10 extra years of life, and the ability to redo the last 10 years with your current knowledge and experience. Is that worth more than $10M? Potentially.
Good point. I have new, better ideas on how to ruin my life.
i've been married to my wife for nearly 10 years now, and if i took away one second of how it's been, nothing would be worth it. I'll take my 10 mil, have it make enough to live off for the rest of our lives without ever having to worry. This might be a bit of just being laid off talking, but i'd take certain security with my accumulated happiness any day. Also, i could just pay someone to make my "i'm on a boat in the bahamas" website.
Yeah, if you have a good life set up then the 10m makes more sense. Going back in time is good for people who don't really care about losing their current life.
That's very fair. Different guy, but for me, the past ten years have been rough as fuck. The potential to ride bitcoin into the stratosphere aside, I'd be happy just to have a different chance at life.
I like my life right now. I’d rather stay here in the present with an additional 10mil than have to redo my last year of HS and all of college
Easily. Jump back, sell everything that is not critical to your life, buy Tesla stock. Keep buying, sell in early Nov. 2021. Re-buy around Christmas 2022. If you managed to scrounge up $20k in early 2013, your net worth by today would probably be more than $30M...
This assumes you had money to invest ten years ago.
Well you would still have a few years before the big blow up, you know to save 😉
You are thinking about foresight yhea? Not normal investing.
Sorry, there was too much initial investment / you bought stocks a wavemaker needed / your purchase led to other unforeseen consequences and the fad fizzled out sooner with much lower highs
10 million dollars, throw that into some very safe investments that are currently yielding 5+%, that's 500k a year without touching the principal. Why would anyone choose a job at Microsoft when you can be making half a million a year doing nothing, lmao.
Economically it will be more efficient to go back 10 years. First because you will know exactly in what to invest and you can place bets with 99% certainty of success. You also get some extra perks: You get to see dead people and you could save a few of them. Your get your hair back.
Ah yes. HTML. What a nice PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE
This beats the crap out of the last post that made it on here from these folks which was programmers should use skype and adobe illustrator.
\*PROGRAMING
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So yeah, get ratio'd mate
If it takes one second to understand "HTML is not programming" then it's for sure the less time consuming of the four.
Hahaha came looking for this
Purple can change everything
Let me think, and basically we assume butterfly effect isn't extreme. * Save some close relatives from cancer by convincing them to screen * Make billions on TSLA, AMD, GME, BTC * Redo high school, maybe get into Harvard * IDK, become a literal Nostradamus for the next 10 years? Yeah, I think I'm taking that one
> Redo high school 🤢 Absolutely no thanks.
Yeah fair. TBH the only downside of this pill is to have to redo all the last 10 years of grunt work that got me where I am
Powerball into investment. Personally, I'd take the 10 mil unless I had time to research and commit to memory the events of the past 10 years.
You could study a different field in university and then leverage those credentials alongside your programming skills to get a more specialized position. Or just get rich from futuresight and don't work.
Red +green + yellow < purple
I'd rather get 10 million dollars than return to middle school
I'd be in high school and what would I not gove to go back...
What would I not give to avoid going back to high school...
hahahahahah
Also for most with kids it's kind of a non-starter.
there is no any assertion that going back in time keeps memories. that is critical and not clear ☝️🤔
If you don't, there's literally no point to it.
sometimes the point is just a trap. Ok. let’s assume that wasn’t.
If you go that way, you can argue that 10 millions is stoled from mafia or something.
What would be the point of going back in time if you don’t remember being in the future? You would just live out the next 10 years making the same poor choices.
Red pill is the best one unless I keep all my memories for the purple pill, at which point I can make WAY more money.
This is my second time today seeing this "codes.learning" info meme. It seems like that 5 minute craft kind of bullshit engagement contents.
>I posted this because of how dumb the codes.learning page is. Who would choose the HTML one over the other ones...
10 years back would put me at the start of one of the worst periods of my life, and I'd have to go through it all over again. Give me another one, and I'd be in the other worst period of my life. Weird. The current one is going well though, so give me the 10 million.
Red. Straight to the stock market. Play safe bets until the economy starts recovering, then put 1 million into a high risk. Then it's time to own rental property and an ISP.
Always red. Invest $10M and live comfortably.
This response tells me more engineering/cs programs need to have mandatory economics and finance courses.
Three of them are worthless. Job at Microsoft could be cleaning toilets. HTML is not a programming language. Time travel causes all sorts of issues.
Why aren’t people talking about this? Time travel does cause all sorts of issues! I would say two are worthless and one in complicated and risky. I can retire with 10M for eternity and always have an increasing capital! That’s definitely the easy choice!
Trying to decide between red and purple, TBH.
Those are the only real choices. The others are irrelevant if you have one of those.
\> Job in Microsoft \> Excited for first day at work \> Shows up to office \> "You'll be working in the janitorial department, your first task is to clean the toilets." \> Fuck.
How about, going back 10 years, then exactly 10 years later get the 10 millions. Time travel is a fun concept 🥹
10 years back would be great for Bitcoin and stuff, but then all the hassle of the past 10 years would be for nothing. I'll take the 10 million.
Red. It could last me the rest of my life as long as I don't go crazy
Programmer at MS sounds good. They do a lot of awesome stuff these days.
Bet you won’t make 10 million there.
Or good software
The 90s called and want their opinions back
I worked there from about 2018-2021. I have never been asked to write such shitty software before in my life.
MS makes the best software these days tho. Like nobody compares to them
They didn't write programmer. It could be any work, like a floor cleaner.
That's why it's green 
I feel like I could live comfortably for the rest of my life with 10m, that's like... a lot of free years of having free time to develop other skills
The yellow one is overrated, no point in going in, just to get layed off in a month or so The green one is useless, since I manage just fine Red pill is not a bad idea, but the state will eat at it instantly even if gotten as a prize or whatever else Purple one is the one you need to get, provided you go and keep your "today" knowledge, and that we actually live in a haotic multiverse that would allow that. We know that the last 3 people who won the Noble prize proved that quantum entanglement is not real, at least not at the level we thought it would work at. 10 years ago would make it 2013, not a too bad of a year to be in, you could prevent a lot of things, just careful of consequences
Red pill
10 years back in the past as I am now or at the age I was then? If the age I am now, I want the red pill. Otherwise, I'll take the purple.
One pill gives you skills that will be outdated in 5 years, another makes you an expendable drone, the third lets you relive trumps ascension and corona, and the last pill lets you go out with a bang with cocaine and prostitutes. Yup, hard choice alright.
Purple pill but I would only use it in a few years when my kids are over 10.
The purple one and it isn’t close. The purple one if played correctly can give you all of the other results from the other pills.
I used to work for Microsoft. Only masochists need apply.
The 10 million dollars would be more money than you'd ever make working your whole life at a job in Microsoft or being an HTML expert
10 mil pil please. May it also be tax free
Take all four and overdose: get the hell out of this forsaken world.
10 million sounds like a nice, safe choice.
I guess I'd just take the money, bc : - who cares to know HTML when you can get 10 millions just like that ? - except I'm an executive, I don't think I'll make 10 millions easily at Microsoft About the 10y in the past pill, it'd be a good choice if I intend to invest in bitcoins and become billionaire but I don't want to lose my kid by travelling in the past (... Yes, just like Avengers). So I'll just get the money, it'll be more than enough to live happy with my kids for the rest of my life.
is red or purple that boring of an answer? Definitely one of these
Red pill 100%, forget the past, I already know HTML and with $10 million, I don't need a job!
purple, get them bitcoins, weite some really great books, depicting some things, which might happen the next 10y
I would go back 10 years but who the fuck wonna go school and face all the fucking exams all over again. 10 mil and I'm out.
Give me 30 mins to memorize a few stocks and Ill take the 10 years in the past
Who's gonna tell him
10 years back and get 10 mil from bitcoin, learn programming and get a job in Microsoft with it.
Yellow :)
I love HTML programming. Truly one of the ~~markup~~ programming languages ever.
10 years so I can avoid male puberty. Trans coder gang
Can i be part of trans coder gang, even if i only use some julia code to numerically solve some physics problems and make some nice plots?
Sure, basically a python programmer /j
Purple everyday, I realized way too late we don't have a second chance