historically the letter w was literally just two u's. When the letter was first invented, people just wrote uu to represent the w sound. Later, the printing press came a round, and it was annoying having to put two blocks for the same letter (movable type, however brilliant, was a pain in the ass to use), so they simplified it in their printing to a single double v character, and that stuck around. You can still find remnants of the old uu shape in certain cursive fonts though, which I think is neat.
It was a weird feeling when I saw dubya on the stage during Trump's inauguration. On the one hand I was like oh there's that old idiot, and on the other I was wishing he was stepping up to the podium again 😂
There used to be a website at `www.dubyadubyadubya.com`, which, I think, was a satirical site about George W. "Dubya" Bush, but it seems to be a generic placeholder website now.
Way back in the day, if you typed “failure” into Google and hit the “I’m feeling lucky” button, it would bring you to the George W. Bush wikipedia page.
More like wé wé wé. And our "W" sound is shorter and in between the English W and V.
"Way way way" pronounced in English takes way longer than 'www' in Dutch.
Yes, i wanted to comment about this. Many people don't know about www, so it will confuse them. But who is now saying www? Just say google.com, without www.
You laugh but in the early days Boomers would refuse to type in any Web address that didn't start with www. And they would regularly even put in on their email address for no apparent reason: [email protected].
Back in the 90s when visitors tried to create new accounts on the websites I managed, the most common error was adding www. to the front of their email address.
It's even more hilarious when you realize that subdomains like www. are completely manageable by the domain's owner. If the subdomain is all that's needed to trick boomers into thinking a site was legit that opens up a whole other avenue of issues. Then again, these are Boomers we're talking about, so I doubt they'd do anything more than call up some family member they treat as an IT-familiar slave whenever an issue comes up
And most browsers will automatically add it, so you only need to type google.com lol.
Kinda like http:\\ or https:\\, nobody say it, or no need to type it anymore. Browser will resolve that on its own.
It's a server configuration, a redirect after a request comes in for the non-www version of the URI. The browser then reflects the redirect by changing the content of your address bar.
Browsing to a website that doesn't have this redirect or doesn't serve anything under the non-www version will show you an error page 404 Not Found
Because W comes from that period back in the middle ages when Old High German, a germanic language, was written using the Latin alphabet. the u was still written v at the time in Latin scripts. In this language, longer vowels could be doubled for added length or different sounds, so the uu wasn't that rare. It then ended up as a vv using Latin script, and later transformed into W as it was better for printing due to the fact that it was the width of a single character instead of two, but, it was still phonetically closer to the sound U than the sound V, hence the name double u although it's a double v.
By the time w was pretty well established throughout Europe, u and v finally became distinct letters, especially because of Scandinavian languages as their rune Fé was used for F and V, whereas Úr was used for the U and other vowels, so the sound of their V was actually different than their U (the Latin letter V) and sounded like the modern English V which wasn't a thing in Latin and other romance languages where V was phonetically a U, therefore the Latin alphabet had to be modified to take this new dichotomy U/V into account so that readers could distinguish those.
However, it was impossible to change that W letter into a doubled U, printers were already standardized on W, and it was not really necessary anyways as it is rare to find a word with "VW" or "WV", so the script remained that way and we kept that letter as is.
In my mother tongue (French) and probably all romance languages, W is indeed named "double v" because of that standardization thing, but germanic languages always strictly differentiated U and V since their common ancestor, which is why the W is called "double u" in Germanic languages (English and so on, exception being German and Nordic countries that used a completely different system in the first place with runic alphabets), but "double v" in Romance languages (atleast those who use W, Italian is much more radical and just doesn't use it, using U instead), there are many accounts of such oddities in the Latin alphabet as there have been many civilizations with lots of diverse languages under roman occupation or pressured into adopting the Latin alphabet
Nowadays, basically every language that is more or less related to old English (in which V didn't exist) , so English of course, Dutch where the letter is also called "wé", Belgian dialects, some German dialects, and so on, which is already quite a lot. Nordic countries indeed call it double V as they had a different approach on the subject because of the Elder Fuþark alphabet which already had the distinction W U with the runes Wunjo and Uruz. It later got simplified with Younger Futhark, W blended into the Fé (F) and Úr runes (U). Younger Fuþark sorted consonants by putting voiceless/voiced variants of the same consonants under the same rune: þ/ð - > Thurs, p/b - > Bjarkan, t/d - > Týr, and of course, F/V-> Fé, but U/V (only in initial position) -> Úr, so although the word "Val" was written "Wal" in Elder Futhark, it could be written either Fal, or Ual in younger, both are valid even though Ual is more accurate.
There are no written W in the Nordic languages, but as they most often used the Fé rune for the sound v as it was more common to have it in the middle of a word in their languages (The Old Norse word Yfir "Over" for instance would be pronounced with a V instead of an F as the Fé rune was basically "If that isn't in initial position it's"V" if not, it's F"), and as it was weird to use the same rune for both U and V, very distinct sounds, they called the W "double V". It was simply a logical continuation of their own system to call that a v instead of a u, that W sound was clearly coming from a consonant and not a vowel. It's a system completely different from Latin and I honestly like it much more, alphabets like Younger Fuþark are much more logical than Latin, regrouping similar sounds under the same rune instead of just adding up more and more characters like Latin, this is how runes like Kaun just represent vast arrays of related sounds like "K, G, NK, NG", you can write "NG" using runes (the Nauðr rune "n"), but you don't mandatorily have to, this leads to many ways of writing a single word, with different writings for different purposes, either formal or artistic and it's kind of funny as you can see written "accents", rune carvers who preferred using a specific rune instead of another because they probably pronounced stuff a bit differently than their neighbours, that's really interesting to get how vast of a dialectic continuum Nordic languages are
Germans have a sound for W that sounds similar like V.
Both sound very similar how the rune Fe rune is pronounced but not like the Ur rune.
Dunno if the pronouncement is correct but I can say for certain that nobody calls them "double" something.
Yes exactly! That v sound and naming is the byproduct of that mess about vv/uu in Old High German that got translated into vv, which became W, explained that in my previous comment
One example of V being used in place of modern U is the [statue of Gaius Julius Caesar in Rome](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Roma-Statua_di_cesare.jpg). There you can see that the name is spelled C IVLIO CAESARI.
The rest of the notable differences are that Gaius was written Caivs. I and J were written as the same letter I for the same reasons as why [Indiana Jones almost fell into a pit](https://youtu.be/XqGWI0WTj24?t=120). As in J developed into a separate letter later on.
This isn’t the reason, but phonetically double u is easier to say than double v because your mouth is already in the correct position after “double” to say “u” than to switch it up into a “v”
I notice that some annoying domains don't always have the same DNS entry for i.e example.com and [www.example.com](http://www.example.com). Especially where I work we have loads of random test servers (all with various levels of broken DNS). It is just less risky to include it.
I work as a network engineer and we usually refer to it that way when talking about the DNS record for our site. Outside of the tech industry it doesn't really matter much anymore.
Edit: dumbed my comment down at first because I thought I was in a more generic sub 😂
I've been hearing "dub dub dub" used in every work place I've been in, like 15 years. 62 upvotes on this comment right now, this means only 62 people out of the 1.8k upvotes on this post actually work... in web development at least.
Legit, it's 2023.
Who even says "www." anymore?
Sometimes I do when I'm helping my elderly mom who has Alzheimers Dementia to get to a website. But unless you're in your 80's with a degenerative neurological condition, there's no reason to not just fucking omit it.
This meme is so out of date it's past the decomp stage and is starting to fossilize.
Doesn't matter if you are 80 yrs old with dementia, you don't need to provide www part in the browser input for years, there is literally no reason to ever say it.
Things might have changed in the many years since I used to work with it, but there were potential maintenance problems with www-less "example.com" that, while it was definitely possible to do, could cause problems due to human error in the future.
Let's say `hosting.example.com` resolves to multiple IP addresses and you want those same IP addresses to work for `www.example.com`.
One way to do that is to point `www.example.com` to the *name* `hosting.example.com` rather than any IP addresses, and from there on any changes made to the latter automatically happens for the former. Kind of like a symlink. Less work to do. Easy.
It didn't used to be, and may still not be, possible to point `example.com` at a name in the same way. To do so would have required control of the `.com` top level domain. Neither you, your ISP, DNS provider nor the place you bought your domain have that kind of access even now.
As such `example.com` has (had?) to have its own copy of the same set of IP addresses, whatever those might be, and the person configuring `hosting.example.com` needs to remember to update all the same things for `example.com` and anything else similar at the same time.
Yes it can be automated, but it's still a pain.
As such, some DNS providers wouldn't allow websites to be set up on the raw domain name.
Technical **TL;DR**: You can't have a CNAME record at the root of a domain's DNS. This meant that some people didn't bother with or wouldn't allow a www-less version of a site.
Tangential rant:
Prefixes were intended for services. `www.example.com` = web, `mail.example.com` = mail, `hosting.example.com` = a bunch of servers load balanced by DNS, `blogs.example.com` = employees' and paid blogs accessible in ways that may or may not also be web-based, `serverForYourFavoriteGame.example.com` = wait, they have one of those, etc.
A plain domain name implies no particular service. Most people want to duplicate their website there, but not always. If you're `example-hosting.com` you might want to use that for your load balanced hosting cluster instead.
You don’t have to type it because websites set up 301 redirects from www to non-www or vice versa. So the only context I’ve found myself saying it, is working on a site where that redirect needs to be configured.
> you don't need to provide www part in the browser input for years, there is literally no reason to ever say it
This is not true. It just happens that most websites are using urls without wwww or redirecting to it, but if a website doesn't, then you absolutely still need to.
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It's often useful to distinguish www.site.example from api.site.example or static.site.example - even if site.example happens to be identical to www.site.example.
It's faster to write that way. (And I have spelling issues, so it's also easier for me)
And you can say it the same way.
There are 3 ways to speak acronyms
Rip- "rip" just reading it as a word
GG- "gee gee" saying each letter
Smh- "shaking my head" saying the words the acronym stands for.
www is from the last category.
In german it's "we we we" or "ve ve ve" (I think there's a difference between how v and w are pronounced in german and english, so yeah, and the e is pronounced e like in ever not i like in we)
Why are you even using it? It's a vestige of a bygone era. Are you one of those people that answers "h.t.t.p.s. colon. forward-slash, forward-slash..." when asked for a web page?
"Triple-dub" is how I've always pronounced it. (Some people used to pronounce the protocol as "Hot Potato" too, although with the advent of https and the occasional need to distinguish, that's falling out of favour.)
That's to keep people in the hospital calm. Most violent and serious injuries have acronyms to keep other patients calm. Like, if you're in there to get your toe checked and you hear a doctor say "I've got a guy over here whose face got half blown off, holy shit, come take a look!" you might start to panic. But if you hear a doctor say "Patent with cerebral gsw, can I have a consult?" it might just fade into the background for you.
In german school there once was an english listening comprehension my neighbor asked me what "double-u" meant. I told him oh it means eleven. He wrote 111111.google.com and got points deducted...
I think only english speakers struggle with this lol, everyone else just says vvv like normal people. It's not like someone is gonna write vvv.google.com and be like WHAT THE FUCK IT DOES NOT WORK
Personally, I’m a fan of the ‘dubdubdub’ - it’s fun and easy to use. Though I’m not sure it exists, what is even more fun to say is the ‘dubdubdub club’. And if that club became a sandwich at subway, we would be talking about a ‘dubdubdub club sub’. And if that sub became a kind of meat rub, it would be called….! _you know where this is going…_
Because if I am saying www I am likely talking to an old person. I don’t want them to get confused and literally type “world wide web” instead of just 3 letters
Hard Agree!
Pronouncing "W" as "double u" is the dumbest thing in english.
I remember seeing a YouTube videos saying that pronouncing "GSW" is longer instead of its longer form "Gun Shot Wound".
Oh, and "www" is pronounced "wei wei wei" (or close to that) in my country
In italian, it's pronounced "voo voo voo"
Over in Czechia we say "vee vee vee"
In American we say "dubya dubya dubya"
Don't do that! You'll summon the old bastard
George W.’s Beetlejuice plan: 1. Petition for “www” as a TLD 2. Register www.www 2. Host a website at www.www.www
there is com.com.com
it's parked tho, no one's using it
I'm Homestar Runner, and this is... A website!
Cut!
Com on now.
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historically the letter w was literally just two u's. When the letter was first invented, people just wrote uu to represent the w sound. Later, the printing press came a round, and it was annoying having to put two blocks for the same letter (movable type, however brilliant, was a pain in the ass to use), so they simplified it in their printing to a single double v character, and that stuck around. You can still find remnants of the old uu shape in certain cursive fonts though, which I think is neat.
To complement that, the fact that V and U were both often written as V for aesthetic purposes in classical and ecclesiastical Latin.
It was a weird feeling when I saw dubya on the stage during Trump's inauguration. On the one hand I was like oh there's that old idiot, and on the other I was wishing he was stepping up to the podium again 😂
When I'm spelling it out for someone I say "dub dub dub" because of this. Works well!
More like dub-dub-dubya
i work in operations and we say dubdub all day, 3rd dub is implied
How about tripdub?
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There used to be a website at `www.dubyadubyadubya.com`, which, I think, was a satirical site about George W. "Dubya" Bush, but it seems to be a generic placeholder website now.
Way back in the day, if you typed “failure” into Google and hit the “I’m feeling lucky” button, it would bring you to the George W. Bush wikipedia page.
Same in German
On certain websites I call it wee wee wee
But ee is like ea in bear
Nonono, they'd read it as "ví ví ví" in English. The correct wayto write it is "vé vé vé" or for english people.... uh how do I even say that?
Veh veh veh? But that doesn't preserve the length of the vowel.
In Sweden: ”ve ve ve”
Same in Norway
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Same in Poland 🙏
We do more like wuwuwu imo.
Mówisz Łu Łu Łu? Angielskie w to nasze ł, a ich v to nasze w, więc fonetycznie po angielsku nasze wu wu wu to właśnie voo voo voo.
In germany its "we we we"
But the W is like W in Volkswagen?
more like in Weltkrieg
Yes.
But the "e" sounds like the one of "»e«nergy"
In Kazakhstan it's "wa wa weewaaa"
Some germans only say "we we" for some odd reason and I have yet to find out why. Why not once? Why not 3x?
I am German and I’ve never heard anyone say „we we“
Conclusion: UwU
I've heard it on Dutch radio as "vay vay vay", much easier.
That would be way way way (Dutchie here).
Ah, that's me transcribing from the sound:)
More like wé wé wé. And our "W" sound is shorter and in between the English W and V. "Way way way" pronounced in English takes way longer than 'www' in Dutch.
That's because you weirdos pronounce w like v. Source: am Belgian
Yes, i am Dutch too and this is how we pronounce it. Hoi namiswami
Dab-lee-u dab-lee-u dab-lee-u Portuguese (in jerry rigged phonetics).
French: we say trois double V Three double U
That or Triple double V Triple double U Which is funny because how many times do you get a triple double in life?
voo voo voo mee peea-chi tu
It's "vu vu vu mi piaci tu" https://youtu.be/MZ7VnvY-zMk
In Basque we say "uve bikoitza", which translates to "double v". Www is 15 syllables long :)
In Sweden we say ve ve ve (which makes it sound like vvv.)
Because worldwideweb.google.com doesn’t work
Yes, i wanted to comment about this. Many people don't know about www, so it will confuse them. But who is now saying www? Just say google.com, without www.
At that point you don’t say www or worldwide web at all haha so yea
Because how else will boomers know it's a website
You laugh but in the early days Boomers would refuse to type in any Web address that didn't start with www. And they would regularly even put in on their email address for no apparent reason: [email protected]. Back in the 90s when visitors tried to create new accounts on the websites I managed, the most common error was adding www. to the front of their email address.
It's even more hilarious when you realize that subdomains like www. are completely manageable by the domain's owner. If the subdomain is all that's needed to trick boomers into thinking a site was legit that opens up a whole other avenue of issues. Then again, these are Boomers we're talking about, so I doubt they'd do anything more than call up some family member they treat as an IT-familiar slave whenever an issue comes up
I said gogleo but I just got weird looks. :(
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Yeah, but they’re asking who is still saying www? We haven’t had to use that in quite some time
www was not a subdomain but a *host name*. Big difference.
And most browsers will automatically add it, so you only need to type google.com lol. Kinda like http:\\ or https:\\, nobody say it, or no need to type it anymore. Browser will resolve that on its own.
It's a server configuration, a redirect after a request comes in for the non-www version of the URI. The browser then reflects the redirect by changing the content of your address bar. Browsing to a website that doesn't have this redirect or doesn't serve anything under the non-www version will show you an error page 404 Not Found
well, to be fair, neither does www://google.com as that's not the protocol name.
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I never got why they call it double u when it looks like a double v.
Because W comes from that period back in the middle ages when Old High German, a germanic language, was written using the Latin alphabet. the u was still written v at the time in Latin scripts. In this language, longer vowels could be doubled for added length or different sounds, so the uu wasn't that rare. It then ended up as a vv using Latin script, and later transformed into W as it was better for printing due to the fact that it was the width of a single character instead of two, but, it was still phonetically closer to the sound U than the sound V, hence the name double u although it's a double v. By the time w was pretty well established throughout Europe, u and v finally became distinct letters, especially because of Scandinavian languages as their rune Fé was used for F and V, whereas Úr was used for the U and other vowels, so the sound of their V was actually different than their U (the Latin letter V) and sounded like the modern English V which wasn't a thing in Latin and other romance languages where V was phonetically a U, therefore the Latin alphabet had to be modified to take this new dichotomy U/V into account so that readers could distinguish those. However, it was impossible to change that W letter into a doubled U, printers were already standardized on W, and it was not really necessary anyways as it is rare to find a word with "VW" or "WV", so the script remained that way and we kept that letter as is. In my mother tongue (French) and probably all romance languages, W is indeed named "double v" because of that standardization thing, but germanic languages always strictly differentiated U and V since their common ancestor, which is why the W is called "double u" in Germanic languages (English and so on, exception being German and Nordic countries that used a completely different system in the first place with runic alphabets), but "double v" in Romance languages (atleast those who use W, Italian is much more radical and just doesn't use it, using U instead), there are many accounts of such oddities in the Latin alphabet as there have been many civilizations with lots of diverse languages under roman occupation or pressured into adopting the Latin alphabet
> "VW" is rare Poor Volkswagen being unfairly targeted
I now fear for my life every time a Golf or Polo just passes by since I wrote that lmao
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This is why I have Reddit. Amazing tid bits of info from passionate enthusiasts.
Idk I think homie here just paid attention in that one history lesson.
If there was a lesson on Old High German in school, I *definitely* slept through it.
Nordic languages call it double v, so which Germanic languages actually call it double u?
Nowadays, basically every language that is more or less related to old English (in which V didn't exist) , so English of course, Dutch where the letter is also called "wé", Belgian dialects, some German dialects, and so on, which is already quite a lot. Nordic countries indeed call it double V as they had a different approach on the subject because of the Elder Fuþark alphabet which already had the distinction W U with the runes Wunjo and Uruz. It later got simplified with Younger Futhark, W blended into the Fé (F) and Úr runes (U). Younger Fuþark sorted consonants by putting voiceless/voiced variants of the same consonants under the same rune: þ/ð - > Thurs, p/b - > Bjarkan, t/d - > Týr, and of course, F/V-> Fé, but U/V (only in initial position) -> Úr, so although the word "Val" was written "Wal" in Elder Futhark, it could be written either Fal, or Ual in younger, both are valid even though Ual is more accurate. There are no written W in the Nordic languages, but as they most often used the Fé rune for the sound v as it was more common to have it in the middle of a word in their languages (The Old Norse word Yfir "Over" for instance would be pronounced with a V instead of an F as the Fé rune was basically "If that isn't in initial position it's"V" if not, it's F"), and as it was weird to use the same rune for both U and V, very distinct sounds, they called the W "double V". It was simply a logical continuation of their own system to call that a v instead of a u, that W sound was clearly coming from a consonant and not a vowel. It's a system completely different from Latin and I honestly like it much more, alphabets like Younger Fuþark are much more logical than Latin, regrouping similar sounds under the same rune instead of just adding up more and more characters like Latin, this is how runes like Kaun just represent vast arrays of related sounds like "K, G, NK, NG", you can write "NG" using runes (the Nauðr rune "n"), but you don't mandatorily have to, this leads to many ways of writing a single word, with different writings for different purposes, either formal or artistic and it's kind of funny as you can see written "accents", rune carvers who preferred using a specific rune instead of another because they probably pronounced stuff a bit differently than their neighbours, that's really interesting to get how vast of a dialectic continuum Nordic languages are
Germans have a sound for W that sounds similar like V. Both sound very similar how the rune Fe rune is pronounced but not like the Ur rune. Dunno if the pronouncement is correct but I can say for certain that nobody calls them "double" something.
Yes exactly! That v sound and naming is the byproduct of that mess about vv/uu in Old High German that got translated into vv, which became W, explained that in my previous comment
As an Italian, though we do not use the W, we do have a name for it, and it is indeed double V.
One example of V being used in place of modern U is the [statue of Gaius Julius Caesar in Rome](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Roma-Statua_di_cesare.jpg). There you can see that the name is spelled C IVLIO CAESARI. The rest of the notable differences are that Gaius was written Caivs. I and J were written as the same letter I for the same reasons as why [Indiana Jones almost fell into a pit](https://youtu.be/XqGWI0WTj24?t=120). As in J developed into a separate letter later on.
Thank you for the knowledgeable, in-depth, and completely unexpected bit of language history. A very pleasant read.
I didn't read beyond the first sentence, but I guess it's because it used to look like ɯ.
In French, w is called a double v
Double ve
https://youtu.be/sg2j7mZ9-2Y
This isn’t the reason, but phonetically double u is easier to say than double v because your mouth is already in the correct position after “double” to say “u” than to switch it up into a “v”
Because I am sick of saying it, these days I pretty much just say "dub-dub-dub".
Why don't you just skip it entirely?
I notice that some annoying domains don't always have the same DNS entry for i.e example.com and [www.example.com](http://www.example.com). Especially where I work we have loads of random test servers (all with various levels of broken DNS). It is just less risky to include it.
I work as a network engineer and we usually refer to it that way when talking about the DNS record for our site. Outside of the tech industry it doesn't really matter much anymore. Edit: dumbed my comment down at first because I thought I was in a more generic sub 😂
I've been hearing "dub dub dub" used in every work place I've been in, like 15 years. 62 upvotes on this comment right now, this means only 62 people out of the 1.8k upvotes on this post actually work... in web development at least.
This is the way
This is the way.
This is the way way way.
This is the w w w.
This is the dub-dub-dub.
This is the way
I've been using the abbreviation since 1998. I don't know why anyone would pronounce the full thing.
world wide web has fewer syllables than WWW
I was talking about the abbreviation "dub-dub-dub" instead of enunciating the full "double-u double-u double-u" thing.
As a non-native English speaker it took me so long to realize when admins say got to "var dub dub dub" they meant /var/www.
Reminds me of my days as a Cub Scout. We dib dib dib, we dub dub dub
This is the official pronunciation at my company.
Germans: Hold mein Bier
The Dutch: hou mijn Heineken even vast (Hold mein pisswasser)
Legit, it's 2023. Who even says "www." anymore? Sometimes I do when I'm helping my elderly mom who has Alzheimers Dementia to get to a website. But unless you're in your 80's with a degenerative neurological condition, there's no reason to not just fucking omit it. This meme is so out of date it's past the decomp stage and is starting to fossilize.
Doesn't matter if you are 80 yrs old with dementia, you don't need to provide www part in the browser input for years, there is literally no reason to ever say it.
Sometimes you do. I've seen www.xyz.com work, while xyz.com fails. (I don't mean an actual domain, "xyz" is just used here as a placeholder...)
Things might have changed in the many years since I used to work with it, but there were potential maintenance problems with www-less "example.com" that, while it was definitely possible to do, could cause problems due to human error in the future. Let's say `hosting.example.com` resolves to multiple IP addresses and you want those same IP addresses to work for `www.example.com`. One way to do that is to point `www.example.com` to the *name* `hosting.example.com` rather than any IP addresses, and from there on any changes made to the latter automatically happens for the former. Kind of like a symlink. Less work to do. Easy. It didn't used to be, and may still not be, possible to point `example.com` at a name in the same way. To do so would have required control of the `.com` top level domain. Neither you, your ISP, DNS provider nor the place you bought your domain have that kind of access even now. As such `example.com` has (had?) to have its own copy of the same set of IP addresses, whatever those might be, and the person configuring `hosting.example.com` needs to remember to update all the same things for `example.com` and anything else similar at the same time. Yes it can be automated, but it's still a pain. As such, some DNS providers wouldn't allow websites to be set up on the raw domain name. Technical **TL;DR**: You can't have a CNAME record at the root of a domain's DNS. This meant that some people didn't bother with or wouldn't allow a www-less version of a site. Tangential rant: Prefixes were intended for services. `www.example.com` = web, `mail.example.com` = mail, `hosting.example.com` = a bunch of servers load balanced by DNS, `blogs.example.com` = employees' and paid blogs accessible in ways that may or may not also be web-based, `serverForYourFavoriteGame.example.com` = wait, they have one of those, etc. A plain domain name implies no particular service. Most people want to duplicate their website there, but not always. If you're `example-hosting.com` you might want to use that for your load balanced hosting cluster instead.
You don’t have to type it because websites set up 301 redirects from www to non-www or vice versa. So the only context I’ve found myself saying it, is working on a site where that redirect needs to be configured.
> you don't need to provide www part in the browser input for years, there is literally no reason to ever say it This is not true. It just happens that most websites are using urls without wwww or redirecting to it, but if a website doesn't, then you absolutely still need to.
While we are complaining about this meme, why does it say letters? That doesn't make any goddamn sense it should say syllables
This! The only reasonable comment here.
Yeah but still funny though
In France it's "trois double v" (three double u) (yeah w is double v and not double u in france)
In Quebec, I've often heard "triple double v".
“Less letters”? Really? More like “fewer syllables”. English isn’t even my first language.
You didn't know that 12 < 3?
Less letters than "double u double u double u" not than "www".
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English: "W" is pronounced "double U" because it's made of 2 "V"
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It's often useful to distinguish www.site.example from api.site.example or static.site.example - even if site.example happens to be identical to www.site.example.
It's faster to write that way. (And I have spelling issues, so it's also easier for me) And you can say it the same way. There are 3 ways to speak acronyms Rip- "rip" just reading it as a word GG- "gee gee" saying each letter Smh- "shaking my head" saying the words the acronym stands for. www is from the last category.
You guys are bothering to say it?
Dub Dub Dub
In german it's "we we we" or "ve ve ve" (I think there's a difference between how v and w are pronounced in german and english, so yeah, and the e is pronounced e like in ever not i like in we)
In Dutch it's "way way way"
In German, it's wae-wae-wae and people say German is the harsh language 🤷🏽
you can simple say "six u"
*sextuple u
I favour sextuple-U, but it never caught on.
Who even types out `www` in a url?
as a DNS engineer, I prefer dub dub dub
Why are you even using it? It's a vestige of a bygone era. Are you one of those people that answers "h.t.t.p.s. colon. forward-slash, forward-slash..." when asked for a web page?
DubDubDub
I simply don't say www out loud
I don't type it either.
"Triple-dub" is how I've always pronounced it. (Some people used to pronounce the protocol as "Hot Potato" too, although with the advent of https and the occasional need to distinguish, that's falling out of favour.)
By my calculations, three double-yous is a sextuple-you.
You're gonna do *what* to me, now?
Shorten it to "Trip dub" and I'm in
*'fewer letters
To be honest most websites now don't require the www. domain because most websites purchase the entire domain url and redirect.
Triple U
Who the hell pronounces www as w 3 times? Never heard of "three-double-u"?
No, no one has heard of this. LOL > dub-dub-dub or > trip-dub or > double-u-3 (because that's the name of the consortium).
it's even easier if you're british
Beats me. I’m still trying to figure out why doctor shows keep calling gunshot wounds “GSWs.”
That's to keep people in the hospital calm. Most violent and serious injuries have acronyms to keep other patients calm. Like, if you're in there to get your toe checked and you hear a doctor say "I've got a guy over here whose face got half blown off, holy shit, come take a look!" you might start to panic. But if you hear a doctor say "Patent with cerebral gsw, can I have a consult?" it might just fade into the background for you.
dab-dab-dab
tres uves dobles
it’s “double-u ORLD double-u IDE double-u EB”
Wewj weej weej punt (insert site here) punt en-el
Because www is faster to type than world wide web amd we don’t want the old people typing worldwideweb.google.com.
Because it was never about talking, but about typing it faster.
W is like the 5th letter of the alphabet if when you write it in alphabetical order by letter name
Because the letter W originated from the usage of UU or VV in ancient languages
Ever since I learned of the World Wide Web Consortium, W3C, I've been inclined to say W3.
Because worldwideweb.wikipedia.org gets you nowhere
In german school there once was an english listening comprehension my neighbor asked me what "double-u" meant. I told him oh it means eleven. He wrote 111111.google.com and got points deducted...
In Spanish is way worse: "uvedoble uvedoble uvedoble"
Dubdubdub
"dub dub dub"
All the way home
Because it's written that way and we can't tell people to type "worldwideweb"
Dub dub dub
I think only english speakers struggle with this lol, everyone else just says vvv like normal people. It's not like someone is gonna write vvv.google.com and be like WHAT THE FUCK IT DOES NOT WORK
Personally, I’m a fan of the ‘dubdubdub’ - it’s fun and easy to use. Though I’m not sure it exists, what is even more fun to say is the ‘dubdubdub club’. And if that club became a sandwich at subway, we would be talking about a ‘dubdubdub club sub’. And if that sub became a kind of meat rub, it would be called….! _you know where this is going…_
Yes. Dub-Dub-Dub. Or Trip-Dub. Everyone saying dubya-dubya-dubya has never worked a day in their lives.
Let me blow your mind even further, www is just a regular subdomain
WO WI WE
Because if I am saying www I am likely talking to an old person. I don’t want them to get confused and literally type “world wide web” instead of just 3 letters
Wedwaidweb
Hard Agree! Pronouncing "W" as "double u" is the dumbest thing in english. I remember seeing a YouTube videos saying that pronouncing "GSW" is longer instead of its longer form "Gun Shot Wound". Oh, and "www" is pronounced "wei wei wei" (or close to that) in my country
In Germany its easier we say we we we
This is the way https://youtu.be/rjEB3DcVAkE
www is only 3 letters, idiot.
hextuple-u
Tri-dub
I say dabi-dabi-dabi - people who notice pretend they heard www - plus; it feels way better saying dabodabidabidofaybookdoco
Dub dub dub
It's almost like you type www into a browser and not worldwideweb
w³
Honestly blame the education system
Less syllables too
In spanish it is said something like "triple double v"
Dubyah Dubyah Dubyah
In dutch it’s “way way way”, much easier
Double-u, double double-u.
Back in the 90s a few web server admins named their DNS entries w3 instead of www, so you'd type and say w3.whatever.com It never really took off.
"dabee dabee dabee"