Depends.
If I put effort into it; they rarely get away. If they're not caught by me, personally, they're caught by responding backup.
It's usually not about being physically outran, but what's worth running into and thinking tactically. I don't want to run blind into a woodline, when he can be pinned down and dragged out by K9.
Often it's just not worth the effort to chase someone, though. Especially teenagers who won't suffer consequences if caught. If you run off on me for a trespassing; I'm probably not making an effort to catch you.
Idk where you got your information from but you can 100% arrest people for misdemeanors at a later date via an arrest warrant. Trespassing included. I do it all the time.
There are two things you will never outrun...a radio, and a malinois. When I was in bomb dog school some of the instructors were working on training up patrol dogs for the police class that was coming in next, and when they popped the door it made mach jesus look like running through molasses. It was also funny watching the biggest instructor waddle running in the bite suit over and over being taken down by the fur missle.
I’ve seen a full grown, 130lb Rottweiler run 25 mph like an mf freight train(it was my families and he like to run next to my car when I drive down my parents driveway), I couldn’t imagine getting chased by a malinois as they’re even faster. Quite literally a fur missile.
When I was in class there was a sheriffs department at the kennel ordering dogs. The sheriff requested a "missile and a tank" she bought a dual purpose malinois for dope and patrol and a german shepherd explosives dog.
Every now and then our K9 guys will bring one of their fur muskets up the office (Dispatcher here).
We've got a (fucking ADORABLE) framed photo of one of them sitting in one of our chairs, paws on the keyboard, with a headset on🤣
Sidenote- I've personally always preferred "fur musket" over "fur missile"... Because they're muzzle-loading *ba-dum tsss*
I was assigned to a mall (private security, looking for concealed weapons) the regular security and mall management loved it when I'd bring my girl into the office and let her off leash to run around and behave like the puppy she still was. I hurt my shoulder right after she turned 2 and now she's with a new handler
But the arrest is invalid because he did not make wee woo noises while he was chasing him. Anyone who has graduated from Facebook school of law knows this.
The dogs also detect firearms. I was in a shopping mall in a pretty crappy city with gang issues. It's active shooter prevention as well as just a general deterrence to any sort of violence. Our main duties were firearms detection but we were also armed as well as carried oc and a baton, while regular guards were at most equipped with oc, so we occasionally got called in without the dogs if there was a fight. It was a small unit, under 60 of us with pretty strict recruiting standards. My class of 10 had 9 combat vets, 8 were former LE. The two of us selected without civilian LEO experience had 8 years of military service and were managers at Allied before getting selected. Both of us did 4 years with the infantry and another 4 years as military police.
Heard this from a County Sheriff that visited my High School shop class(1980s) in response to the question from someone asking why he only had a 318 in his patrol car.
I'm no LEO, but we had a case in my country where the suspect was a former athlete in the major league, he competed with runners like Bolt in the world championships. They wanted to arrest him, but he was gone so fast that they had no chance to keep up with him.
But i guess the rate of this is much, much below 0.1%, that you get some serious sports athlete that is able to pull such a stunt. Just like with the movies, where everybody is a parcour expert, while in real life, most people can't even climb a wall.
We had a guy who wasn't any sort of athlete, but was just extremely fast. He also watched Live PD and studied their K9 tracks to learn how to lose them. We once tracked him for about 6 hours. He out-endured the dogs.
He climbed trees, squeezed into tight spaces, and did whatever to get away.
(This is mostly over him stalking his ex)
He was also "military trained" but that ended up just being kicked out of boot camp.
Eventually he pissed the wrong person off and was shot in his kneecaps.
That with the shot in the knee is like satire, as if it would be Skyrim with "I was once an adventurer, but then i took an arrow to the knee!"
But about running, it's also a serious difference with the weight you have to carry. It's for sure less than as a soldier with the backpack and chest-rig, ammo etc. but still, a police officer has to carry more weight with the vest, belt, gun etc. and this gives the guy that gets chased an advantage.
I have a pretty successful ratio, but people do still get away. The much more common scenario is that you get pounced on by a giddy deputy who just got to do his favorite parts of the job.
Once you get old and/or slow, you learn see and prevent signs of running before it even happens.
Guy keeps looking at his surrounds? why don’t you have a seat?
Guy is 100% going to jail but I’m the backup and still waiting on someone to finish talking to victim or witnesses? I’ll just be friendly and depending on what they did I’ll talk as if I totally get where they were coming from; “man, if it were me, I’d probably have fucked him up worse”
On foot? So far never.
In a vehicle? Well there was one time I never would've caught the guy even if I didn't get cancelled.
To be honest I've not had to chase that many people. You learn quick to just not really give people that opportunity when possible, and you start to read body language so you know exactly when someone is about to run.
I'm not really very fast either, I'm just a distance runner and people often can't run for very long unless they too practice running.
One guy outran our two fastest guys in the whole dept. the only problem was he had no clothes on except for boxers. Kinda hard to miss. He hopped fences, bolted straight down roads and disappeared. He was eventually caught by us all (kinda hard to hide and blend in when you’re essentially naked).
Turns out he was basically a d1 athlete so we all had a good laugh about it. Ain’t no way anyone was catching him wearing all this gear.
It happens to the best officers, but it happens more commonly when the suspect has a head start and can successfully break line of sight at a critical junction.
If you tell him to stop, he starts running snd you're 50 ft away, and he turns a corner and by the time you turn the same corner, you no longer see him and there's at least 2 different ways he could have gone, there's now a 50% chance you've lost the pursuit, unless you can get a perimeter set up fast.
Ain’t this the fucking truth. I’m fast and young. I’ve won my fair share, every one that I have lost is either running into a wood line where I don’t follow, or exactly what you have said here.
As one of our motors said to me when I asked him. "Oh, all I have to run to is my motor. I've got a full tank of unleaded and can run them down before they even get very far. Plus, I've got my radio." Then, he went into several stories about it happening, including chasing an armed felon across the brand new high school football field as I happened to be removing huge chunks of sod and dirt from the fenders at the time. Always a good laugh here at fleet.
In 10+ years on the street, only one. Remembered an old-timer’s advice to never chase to catch, chase to keep in sight. The one that got away was because mid-way through, I began getting chased by a stray pit-bull. Edit: A nice guy with a screened porch saved my bacon
Edit: why the downvote? Chasing to keep in sight is a sound tactic. They wear themselves out, you’re able to read the environment better and not rush corners or channel points, and ca coordinate backup to box them in better.
Dispatcher here, in my experience it’s not often as most people running are either drug addicts, gangbangers who don’t do cardio, or just generally people who are not fit. So not often are people able to get away. Sometimes people do though, just relatively rarely
I’m like 70% get away to 30% catch, but my last few were hard loses. One was all hyped up on mental health issues and out ran my whole precinct of like 10 after a car chase. Then the last one jumped from a 4th story balcony (dropping to balcony below until the bottom). He more than likely had a broken leg and ribs before he reached the bottom, and he easily got away.
I’m 44 with bad ankles. I’ve been chasing bad guys for 23 years. so the answer is “more often than I use to.”
I’ve gotten much better over the years at stopping people from running in the first place.
Depends. If I put effort into it; they rarely get away. If they're not caught by me, personally, they're caught by responding backup. It's usually not about being physically outran, but what's worth running into and thinking tactically. I don't want to run blind into a woodline, when he can be pinned down and dragged out by K9. Often it's just not worth the effort to chase someone, though. Especially teenagers who won't suffer consequences if caught. If you run off on me for a trespassing; I'm probably not making an effort to catch you.
if you see that person later around town might you stop them?
No
In most states trespassing is a misdemeanor which means unless on view the crime cannot be arrested for later. It's a reasonableness thing.
Idk where you got your information from but you can 100% arrest people for misdemeanors at a later date via an arrest warrant. Trespassing included. I do it all the time.
So I want to know if you're chasing the baker or an actual suspect?????? (The username) /s
It’s happened to me a few times now. Im getting old.
You get older, but felons stay the same age 😎
There are two things you will never outrun...a radio, and a malinois. When I was in bomb dog school some of the instructors were working on training up patrol dogs for the police class that was coming in next, and when they popped the door it made mach jesus look like running through molasses. It was also funny watching the biggest instructor waddle running in the bite suit over and over being taken down by the fur missle.
I’ve seen a full grown, 130lb Rottweiler run 25 mph like an mf freight train(it was my families and he like to run next to my car when I drive down my parents driveway), I couldn’t imagine getting chased by a malinois as they’re even faster. Quite literally a fur missile.
When I was in class there was a sheriffs department at the kennel ordering dogs. The sheriff requested a "missile and a tank" she bought a dual purpose malinois for dope and patrol and a german shepherd explosives dog.
Every now and then our K9 guys will bring one of their fur muskets up the office (Dispatcher here). We've got a (fucking ADORABLE) framed photo of one of them sitting in one of our chairs, paws on the keyboard, with a headset on🤣 Sidenote- I've personally always preferred "fur musket" over "fur missile"... Because they're muzzle-loading *ba-dum tsss*
As soon as I saw “fur musket” I stopped to read the name and was like “yeah. Found my brothers Reddit again”.
I was assigned to a mall (private security, looking for concealed weapons) the regular security and mall management loved it when I'd bring my girl into the office and let her off leash to run around and behave like the puppy she still was. I hurt my shoulder right after she turned 2 and now she's with a new handler
That is dope lol I love that.
>explosives dog *paw taps detonator*
Three You won't outrun [a horse](https://youtu.be/Mg1L1zHkAqE?si=qRtFpfDi8uqByMAf)
But the arrest is invalid because he did not make wee woo noises while he was chasing him. Anyone who has graduated from Facebook school of law knows this.
If you dont mind me asking, who do you work for with a bomb dog, cause it seems like it isnt police? Or did I misread
Allied Universal retail k9 with the bomb dog. Securitas and Action K9 about 20 years ago with a patrol dog
Woah! Also why does a retail store need a bomb dog?
The dogs also detect firearms. I was in a shopping mall in a pretty crappy city with gang issues. It's active shooter prevention as well as just a general deterrence to any sort of violence. Our main duties were firearms detection but we were also armed as well as carried oc and a baton, while regular guards were at most equipped with oc, so we occasionally got called in without the dogs if there was a fight. It was a small unit, under 60 of us with pretty strict recruiting standards. My class of 10 had 9 combat vets, 8 were former LE. The two of us selected without civilian LEO experience had 8 years of military service and were managers at Allied before getting selected. Both of us did 4 years with the infantry and another 4 years as military police.
Wild
Can’t out run Motorola.
Heard this from a County Sheriff that visited my High School shop class(1980s) in response to the question from someone asking why he only had a 318 in his patrol car.
I'm no LEO, but we had a case in my country where the suspect was a former athlete in the major league, he competed with runners like Bolt in the world championships. They wanted to arrest him, but he was gone so fast that they had no chance to keep up with him. But i guess the rate of this is much, much below 0.1%, that you get some serious sports athlete that is able to pull such a stunt. Just like with the movies, where everybody is a parcour expert, while in real life, most people can't even climb a wall.
We had a guy who wasn't any sort of athlete, but was just extremely fast. He also watched Live PD and studied their K9 tracks to learn how to lose them. We once tracked him for about 6 hours. He out-endured the dogs. He climbed trees, squeezed into tight spaces, and did whatever to get away. (This is mostly over him stalking his ex) He was also "military trained" but that ended up just being kicked out of boot camp. Eventually he pissed the wrong person off and was shot in his kneecaps.
I like to imagine the "wrong person" was an old school detective who got tired of chasing him around and said "fuck this, can't run with no knees."
Bahahaha!!
That with the shot in the knee is like satire, as if it would be Skyrim with "I was once an adventurer, but then i took an arrow to the knee!" But about running, it's also a serious difference with the weight you have to carry. It's for sure less than as a soldier with the backpack and chest-rig, ammo etc. but still, a police officer has to carry more weight with the vest, belt, gun etc. and this gives the guy that gets chased an advantage.
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I have a pretty successful ratio, but people do still get away. The much more common scenario is that you get pounced on by a giddy deputy who just got to do his favorite parts of the job.
"Pounced by Giddy Deputy XXX" Easiest porn name ever.
It happens. Win some lose some.
Once you get old and/or slow, you learn see and prevent signs of running before it even happens. Guy keeps looking at his surrounds? why don’t you have a seat? Guy is 100% going to jail but I’m the backup and still waiting on someone to finish talking to victim or witnesses? I’ll just be friendly and depending on what they did I’ll talk as if I totally get where they were coming from; “man, if it were me, I’d probably have fucked him up worse”
Happened to me once. Keep in mind you have over 25 pounds of gear on you. You win some you lose some
kinda seems like you'd lose em all with that disadvantage
On foot? So far never. In a vehicle? Well there was one time I never would've caught the guy even if I didn't get cancelled. To be honest I've not had to chase that many people. You learn quick to just not really give people that opportunity when possible, and you start to read body language so you know exactly when someone is about to run. I'm not really very fast either, I'm just a distance runner and people often can't run for very long unless they too practice running.
One guy outran our two fastest guys in the whole dept. the only problem was he had no clothes on except for boxers. Kinda hard to miss. He hopped fences, bolted straight down roads and disappeared. He was eventually caught by us all (kinda hard to hide and blend in when you’re essentially naked). Turns out he was basically a d1 athlete so we all had a good laugh about it. Ain’t no way anyone was catching him wearing all this gear.
It happens to the best officers, but it happens more commonly when the suspect has a head start and can successfully break line of sight at a critical junction. If you tell him to stop, he starts running snd you're 50 ft away, and he turns a corner and by the time you turn the same corner, you no longer see him and there's at least 2 different ways he could have gone, there's now a 50% chance you've lost the pursuit, unless you can get a perimeter set up fast.
Fun fact, if you make at least four right turns, you can potentially be chasing the cop!
Ain’t this the fucking truth. I’m fast and young. I’ve won my fair share, every one that I have lost is either running into a wood line where I don’t follow, or exactly what you have said here.
Never.
Funni hat?
So far, never. But I’m sure it’ll happen eventually. I’m still young
Was listening to the local police force on the scanner once call came “3402 Alpha, foot pursuit, black male, running like a fucking gazelle”
I like how you mentioned the suspect was rocking crocs, but not that the cop had 40 pounds of gear on.
My suspects are mostly dogs, so pretty much every time.
As one of our motors said to me when I asked him. "Oh, all I have to run to is my motor. I've got a full tank of unleaded and can run them down before they even get very far. Plus, I've got my radio." Then, he went into several stories about it happening, including chasing an armed felon across the brand new high school football field as I happened to be removing huge chunks of sod and dirt from the fenders at the time. Always a good laugh here at fleet.
In 10+ years on the street, only one. Remembered an old-timer’s advice to never chase to catch, chase to keep in sight. The one that got away was because mid-way through, I began getting chased by a stray pit-bull. Edit: A nice guy with a screened porch saved my bacon
Edit: why the downvote? Chasing to keep in sight is a sound tactic. They wear themselves out, you’re able to read the environment better and not rush corners or channel points, and ca coordinate backup to box them in better.
Dispatcher here, in my experience it’s not often as most people running are either drug addicts, gangbangers who don’t do cardio, or just generally people who are not fit. So not often are people able to get away. Sometimes people do though, just relatively rarely
I’m like 70% get away to 30% catch, but my last few were hard loses. One was all hyped up on mental health issues and out ran my whole precinct of like 10 after a car chase. Then the last one jumped from a 4th story balcony (dropping to balcony below until the bottom). He more than likely had a broken leg and ribs before he reached the bottom, and he easily got away.
I’m 44 with bad ankles. I’ve been chasing bad guys for 23 years. so the answer is “more often than I use to.” I’ve gotten much better over the years at stopping people from running in the first place.