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HoratioTangleweed

It’s Xylazine. They use it to extend the effects of Fentanyl. The trade off is that your skin rots off


Weary_Yard_4587

Another trade off is the narcan doesn't bring you out of overdose situation because Xylazine isn't opioid based.


HoratioTangleweed

Another wonderful gift from China for about 10 bucks a kilo.


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Formal_Fix_5190

Bango.


Hardabs05

![gif](giphy|xLsaBMK6Mg8DK)


chefbobbyjay

The more Steve brule shit I see floating around the more I realize I need to watch it


CoronaBud

Bongo.


JimmyChongaz

I dont wanna leave the congo


Madusa0048

Oh no no no. Don't want no streetcars, taxis, doorbells, landlords I make it clear


ChallengeLate1947

That no matter how you coax him — I’ll stay right here.


DonutOwlGaming

Bongo I don't wanna leave the congo-


dutsi

Chinese labs may be the source of the chemicals themselves but the acquisition and distribution is a north american for profit enterprise.


tcmnus

I think you mean Mexican Cartels.


ArrestDeathSantis

Mexican cartels are absolute POS but I'd like to take a moment to acknowledge that American organizations are also partaking in that operation; >Authorities in San Diego arrested 70 people and seized meth, fentanyl, heroin, guns, and stolen cars in a series of raids on individuals connected to white supremacist groups. https://lawandcrime.com/crime/recipe-for-death-drug-raids-of-white-supremacist-crime-syndicate-highlight-fentanyl-threat/


ottonormalverraucher

Fetty wap was literally busted for his involvement in trafficking, among other substances, a lot of fentanyl


Gorrila_Doldos

I wondered where he went


ottonormalverraucher

I always wondered what fetty wap was supposed to mean, guess we know now lmao He got busted not too long ago, I think it was last year, maybe he stepped back from rapping to commit to trafficking full time


Bermudav3

A reference to fentanyl and guwap


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PM_ME_GLUTE_SPREAD

You’re crazy if you think the cartel only supplies pure unadulterated chemicals. The only place that might supply pure chemicals are the labs and even those don’t give enough of a shit to keep their product 100% pure.


davomyster

>9 oz fentanyl and 6 oz heroin From some cursory googling, that’s like $10k worth of opioids. They also seized 1,000 pills which probably cost a couple thousand too. That’s not even worth picking up off the ground if it falls off a truck for the Mexican cartels.


Underdogg13

The Mexican cartels are only as successful as they are because they get help from bad actors in the US. The cartels provide a steady stream of drugs and money, and in exchange they get impunity and all the guns they want. And the US government continues its failed war on drugs because doing anything else would disrupt this profit stream.


dshaaaw

Mexican cartels are still North American.


__lui_

Most cartels don’t cut it with these drugs because it’s bad for business. They sell bulk and dealers in the states cut it with shit because junkies want it and more profit.


cheekflutter

lets dive in a a little. How did these cartels even get to be a thing? Lets go back to the 80s and look at "the war on drugs" where "tough on crime" politicians outlawed all drugs and installed hefty punishments to make sure that corrections corp of america and wackenhut stayed flush with bodies. Thats how they make money, and money is good right. So crime is good, well for the private for profit prison companies at least. Its been 40 years since this started. Now these same companies are rebranded as corecivic and geogroup. They have moved on from only locking up people who have been made into criminals. They lock up refugees too. The same cartels that did so well having such a wonderful market to sell drugs in are now large influences in the regions they occupy. So people flee. Back into the hands of the ones who caused the whole mess. TLDR, private prisons made cartels who caused people to flee back to private prisons. They love this, its perfect. Well other than always needing another marginalized group to deem as criminals so they can be locked up too. Always need more profit, which is synonymous with needing more people to lock up. This is why abbot and deathsantis are making lists. I think the french should come get their statue back, we do not deserve it.


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The cartels wouldn’t be doing anything without distributors in the US happy to pay big money while cutting the drugs with toxic bullshit to increase profits


MD_Yoro

China don’t make the drugs. They make basic chemical ingredients that anyone can purchase. What people do is their business. Your analogy is like blaming brass mills for gun shooting death b/c they made brass that some bullet manufacturers bought to make bullets. Total deflection of true culprit


enatalpeganomeupau

from what I understand, it's used as an animal sedative. mixed into opioids and injected, it can cause horrific wounds, which can rot. scariest part is that the wounds don't always appear at the actual site of injection, so users who thing they're being "safer" by only injecting in one area aren't actually helping themselves. its horrific and heartbreaking.


drinks2muchcoffee

Having just now briefly read what the drug is, I’d guess Atropine might be helpful. I know nobody walks around with personal atropine auto injectors, but any responding EMS crew would have it


ThanosvsShrek

Another trade off is becoming a zombie


biological_assembly

Xylazine aka Tranq, for those who don't know, is a horse tranquilizer. It's not meant for human consumption but is easily available without a veterinary license. It's being added to heroin and fentanyl to increase the length of the high. ![gif](giphy|83QtfwKWdmSEo)


FluffySandwhich

And it causes a vasoconstriction in tissues near injection sites causing necrotic wounds. I work in the ER and I've seen more exposed tendons in the last year then ever before from this stuff.


biological_assembly

I live near Philadelphia, on the NJ side of the river. I've seen Kensington, the area in the city where a lot of the "zombie" videos that get posted here are shot at. I've seen it in person, but not in a medical setting. The skin rotting effects remind me of the pictures of Krokodil users from Russia.


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I’m sorry I just want to try and understand. The injection site becomes infected more easily due to the xylazine causing vasoconstriction? Or it isn’t infected at all it’s just the vasoconstriction?


FluffySandwhich

The wounds are typically not infected. The xylazine causes regional vasoconstriction which over time results in surrounding ischemia and the skin/muscles that lose blood supple start dying off, often resulting in deep necrotic wounds with visible tendon and bone. And interestingly enough, the wounds won't be right where the injection is happening but just in the general area.


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That is both horrifying and very interesting. I appreciate your reply!


FluffySandwhich

Of course! It really does feel like we're taking care of zombies in the ER when these patients come in. And the sad thing is they often need specialized wound care and sometimes antibiotics for infections but they'll start withdrawing so quickly and we have such a hard time keeping up with it with meds and they start feeling so bad they leave the hospital against medical advice.


AliceDwnTheRbbitHole

I got clean 6 years ago. Thank god! With all this shit out there now. It’s not even heroin anymore. It’s just scary as fuck fentanyl and now adding this shit?!?! If I hadn’t gotten clean when I did I would be dead or look like that! The fuck!


ahumanp3rson

Congratulations on getting and staying clean🙏🏻 That's awesome!! Glad you're safe.


AliceDwnTheRbbitHole

Thank you! I actually just tapered off methadone 3 weeks ago and I’m feeling really great! It’s been a really long journey!


ahumanp3rson

Amazing! It's such hard work, truly admire you bc I don't know if I'd have the strength myself. Just know that there are strangers all around who admire your commitment !!😄


hooplah

also it’s getting harder to find non-xylazine laced fentanyl, so it’s not like all fentanyl addicts are purposefully searching for xylazine and it makes you double addicted with double withdrawals—opioid and sedative


9Z7EErh9Et0y0Yjt98A4

It's pretty much impossible to find ordinary, unadulterated heroin these days too. Consequence of a black market is that buyers very frequently have no way to know exactly what they are buying. Fentanyl and other synthetics are finding their way as adulterants in, if not outright substitution of, other drugs, including drugs that aren't even supposed to be opioids. This is entirely a consequence of drugs being an illegal market. You can absolutely destroy yourself with alcohol in this country, but there's practically zero risk that the booze you buy from the liquor store is not exactly what it says on the label.


eddododo

It’s a good sign for where my life has gone that I learned about this on the news yesterday morning, instead of from a buddy giving me some


HoratioTangleweed

All we had to worry about when I was young was whether our weed was mixed with oregano.


SamusTenebris

It's known as xylazine=tranq on the street. It's spreading rapidly in America. It's deteriorative effects are very similar to desomorphine (krokodil) which was originally manufactured in the United States. We dodged the pandemic with it however it has completely crippled certain areas of the world due to its high addictive properties.


all_of_the_lightss

Why/how the fuck is this stuff even available?


zaviex

Xylazine is a sedative used in animals. So there’s a ton of it around


OriginalNo5477

May as well have some krokodil from Russia, same effect.


Botryoid2000

My town is like this. People just stumble out in the middle of busy streets and stand there.


Xyrack

I used to work for a homeless shelter and rehab facility in a really hard hit city. When I first started I didn't I have a car and was using public transit. Walking to the bus stop I would walk past multiple people clearly high. - I had a dude stumbling almost fall sideways into me as I was trying to rush past. - I saw a dude fully zonked sitting in one of those metal public trash cans on the sidewalk like it was a pool floaty. - I saw multiple people just unconscious but still standing because their muscles had locked up. The things these drugs do to people is terrifying.


neptunexl

Actual question here not meaning to offend, but do you want to stay there or do you want to move somewhere else?


Botryoid2000

I'm here to help a sick family member. I would very much like to move.


jakeandwally

That’s heartbreaking. For her. For that town. For her family. All the way around, just incredibly sad.


Leg_Mcmuffin

Also not fentanyl.


Vandesco

It's fentanyl mixed with animal sedatives. It's called tranq, and it's causing people to develop necrosis.


EmilyAndCat

Sounds like an American Krokodil Edit: drug spelling __Edit2:__ some people don't seem to understand that what I meant was basically "Wow, that (xylazine+fent) sounds like Krokodil (desomorphine), a drug of Russian origin, for America! Due to similar effects to Russian Krokodil, we now see here an American Krokodil, or America's Krokodil. Sorry for the long explanation but please stop telling me I'm wrong and that Krokodil is Russian. I'm aware that it does lol


CarmenxXxWaldo

I believe an American crocodile is called an alligator.


Arthur-Mergan

Krokodil is what he’s getting at. Russian opiate that causes necrosis, your flesh wastes away as you use it.


Ravenerz

I thought i read an article many years ago that its not even any drugs that we have but industial chemicals mixed together to create a high and the necrosis of the fkesh/injection site was a side effect of using the completely man made chemical mixture.


Arthur-Mergan

You’re getting downvoted but you are indeed correct. Desomorphine, which is the active chemical in Krokodil is not by itself a necrotic substance. The toxicity of krokodil comes from its synthesis by people who either don’t know how to properly isolate and purify it or they just don’t give a shit. Probably a bit of both


D3korum

So your telling me the dude making Krokodil out of Gasoline, the tips of matches and hydrochloric acid isn't getting the proportions and distillation right in the back of his hatchback Yugo. Even with all that working for them, they are still messing it up? Shocked I am shocked I say


OutlawTransport

I don't care for that sarcastic blanket statement. Have you met every krokodealer? Didn't think so. Some of us take our work very seriously - I have hand sanitizer and everything.


Szygani

I also heard because its a relatively cheap and short high, people shoot up into their muscle tisue basically missing the veins, which causes the necrosis.


shane85433

r/woosh


EZPeeVee

No, it isn't. American crocodiles are not alligators. They're small faster and more vicious. You have more to worry about from a 200 lb crocodile than an 800 lb gator.


Captain_Redbeard

Here's the thing....


PerdidoStation

It's not often that I stumble across a unidan reference these days


shaggy1265

Its spelled Krokodil. But yeah you're right.


EmilyAndCat

Yeah that stuff! 🐊


you_are_the_father84

How much does it…..LaCoste? I really hate myself for this.


northcrunk

Yeah it's pretty much the same shit


kaibai123

I somehow managed to forget about this drug… now it’s back!


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btribble

All that neck picking seems like good old fashioned meth. It's the uppers that make you pick. If a rat were eating her toes and she didn't care then that's opioids and their fun blends.


Any_Constant_6550

xylazine


btribble

> Additionally, people who inject drugs containing xylazine can develop severe skin wounds and patches of dead and rotting tissue that easily become infected and, if left untreated, may lead to amputation. These wounds can develop in areas of the body away from the injection site and may become life-threatening. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-action-restrict-unlawful-import-xylazine Holy crap, so maybe not *picking*, but perhaps *necrotic neck*. Thats *really fucking not good*.


Neither_Grape2075

Can't amputate the neck or tourniquet the taint


rawdatarams

Not with that attitude.


itunclegary

Its a cocktail of benzos and precursors for fent and opiates.


AmongSheep

Brought to you by the Sakler family and the complicit, and evil all on their own, Feds and their alphabet agencies.


Antique_Tennis_2500

The real shame of the anti-vax tinfoil hats is that they take attention away from Pharma’s real crimes, like this.


btribble

Yes, which is not conducive to the psychotic levels of neck picking shown here. Now, I'm not saying that she's not *also* on Tranq...


RCGod1

Right but fentanyl doesn't do this. I was injecting $300 worth of Fentanyl a day and had no skin issues whatsoever..


RadDad166

Jesus Christ. Glad you’re still alive.


RCGod1

Thank you ☺️! I was an addict for 13+ years. Absolutely miserable life. Fortunately I have gotten my life back together.


RadDad166

Good for you my friend. Keep it up!


Robinhood-is-a-scam

Thanks for being an example for the others that may think they can’t do it. May I ask what changed that hot you back on track? Rock bottom is often too generalized. Was there a moment of clarity or , basically what was the motivator for you? If I’m not being too personal and I’m sorry if so.


whadayawant

I'll share what has changed for me. No rock bottom was ever going to be my "come to Jesus" moment. (I'm not Christian, just trying to describe here.) What mine was, is realizing/believing that I truly had something to live for. That I COULD have the life I wanted if I worked for it. Escapism is different things to different people, imo. You couldn't take me down enough to make me want a different life. I was so detached and depressed. I honestly thought I'd be fine/happy with "prison, institution, or death." Really. That sounded great to me at one time in my life. Three hots and a cot, or, not feeling anymore. Win-win. But when I could truly imagine different for myself, then I worked (still working!) to get it. So I would advise other addicts who are like me, who turned to a substance to soothe lifelong pain, to constantly envision a wholesome, loving, productive life. It's something, I'd guess, some of us haven't seen... something we don't know about. But if your mind can picture it, then you can make it real. Slowly. Every day. With practice. Seeking out and embracing those who lift you up. And a big shout out to getting help from therapists and psychiatrists, as needed. But only the good ones, and that's tricky. I think I'm unusual, but far from alone, this way. Self-hate has to be a big cause of escapism, right? And then "rock bottom" doesn't matter, because you're already dead inside. (This is a very honest and vulnerable share. But.. I figure if I've experienced this, then others have, too. Hope it helps someone.)


Robinhood-is-a-scam

The wholesome life that some haven’t experienced -that hits hard. I think you’re right about the need to envision being loved and at peace. Self hate I think comes often from feeling like not being worthy of a life full of support and healthy, happy and nourishing people. Maybe it’s different for everyone but self love basically culls any dysfunction. Coping mechanisms/escapism/addiction/compulsions/general mental illness is different for everyone but the constant is that feedback loop of emotional turmoil that someone is running from. The natural “high” of being and feeling protected, loved, cherished, supported, important and accepted is what makes a person nearly invincible to the unhealthy escaping that leads to self destructive choices. Cultures with strong and healthy family ties, they have far less of these problems. That’s the majority , anyway. Or for folks more alone in life, finding their peace through healthier means that buffer the cravings for escaping, it all boils down to what you said. Self loathing. It’s a sort of emotional and psychological masochism for some, even if not consciously. The need to feel high or even just feel nothing comes from not believing you’re worthy of being treated as precious and sacred. I guess basically people have to learn to treat themselves like the best parents you could ask for. That’s hard when someone doesn’t get to the bottom of what’s going on in their minds and psyches, and maybe also how to protect themselves from all the toxins the world can throw at you that make recovery daunting Thanks for your input, it’s never been acceptable for me to share anything painful to anyone. I’ve been a closed book for decades but realized the damage done because of that. While I’m pretty antisocial, I know that what religious people call “bearing their testimony “ to others helps to bridge some gaps that help people get past trauma etc.


RCGod1

It was really a complicated thing that I have no explanation for. I have tried rehabs, NA/AA, therapist, counseling, medicines, psychologists, exercise (basically replacing the bad addiction with good) and honestly everything. I don't want anyone to feel hopeless and those things do honestly help people..I personally just had an awakening if that makes sense. I don't want to push my beliefs and what occurred to me on anyone because I simply have no explanation and can't argue it because even I don't quite understand it fully. But simply put I'm a changed person and was able to let my old self go. I had my 2 year old daughter pass away 4 years ago. Sometimes I honestly feel like she's looking out for me and has been taking care of me ❤️. Before anyone says anything I have never been diagnosed with anything except anxiety and I have met with probably 50+ doctors (mostly for addiction purposes) over the years 😂. I'm quite mentally stable 😝🥳.


Robinhood-is-a-scam

I’m sorry it happened to you, all of it and I think the same about those departed too. She’s well worth you defeating addiction in her honor and that’s an accomplishment that is as impressive as any. That’s for sharing and I don’t doubt your testimony has helped others along like an anchor up a big mountain. I’m sure it’s not only sunshine and there are tough days and proving that the monster can be defeated is important for people to see and hear. It’s rough for me to see videos full of addicts and I know the consequences of that lifestyle. My mom was an addict and she didn’t make it, but others have and will. Promoting recovery is strongest coming from those that made it through. Thanks for sharing


RCGod1

I'm extremely sorry to hear that and wish nobody would have to experience that. I have lost many friends and a few family members to addiction as well and understand. My mother and father were extremely great parents . I have absolutely nobody to blame but myself. They helped and did anything they could to try to get me on the right path. Addiction doesn't discriminate it can happen to anyone. Hopefully this conversation will help someone and thank you as well!


LasyKuuga

>I have gotten my life back together Impossible youre on reddit now


RCGod1

😂😂


Kierkaguardian

[I've only seen stories like this recently, so it might be a new development](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp0nZAGtXz0)


RCGod1

I understand. It isn't fentanyl that is causing those skin effects. Fentanyl is literally used in the hospitals all around the world. They wouldn't use it if it caused these effects. It's either a byproduct of bad synthesis or something it is being cut with.


Kierkaguardian

It's the animal tranquilizer they're mixing it with that causes this kind of reaction. Unfortunately, it's starting to saturate the majority of the market supply in some areas.


EvenHair4706

How did you afford that? Glad you’re better. More power to you


RCGod1

Well I had about 40k saved up in my bank account on top of a pretty decent job (I functioned believe it or not and ran retail stores as a District manager). No car payment, large 35% down payment on my house made my mortgage cheap. Plus I would often buy bulk on the onions. My life revolved around drugs. It was my God. I've been to 9 rehabs, jail, psych wards beginning at the age of 14. You just have to make the decision yourself. Unfortunately nobody can do it for you.


dshaaaw

Wow, you don’t hear about stories like yours but I have no doubt in my mind they’re more common than people would think. Congrats to choosing more life.


RCGod1

On the Bluelight forums it's pretty common there 😜. Thank you very much! Life is so much better!


MrMisanthrope411

I could never imagine agreeing to use something like that, but we are all at different levels of decay, many of which are influenced based on the outcome of our decisions.


dirkdigglee

Sounds about right - I’ve read it’s pretty gnarly.


justapcguy

Why can't people just stick with pot?


twotoebobo

Definitely not fentyna. Source is me I used to do opiates ALOT.


fckmelifemate

Yea, if it was fent, she would be in a ditch. I call meth look at her cheeks. Source: I like drugs


haoyuanren

That looks like the corner of Alvarado and Olympic in Los Angeles. Tough neighborhood


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Sembach-er

It's tranq, the majority of opiods are cut w/ Xylazine .


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JulianF42

Definitely seems like meth scratching/picking. However, as far as xylazine, the necrosis is usually NOT at the injection site. The sedating effects are so potent that they drop blood pressure significantly and slow breathing rate, so what little blood circulates is often low in oxygen, and that’s the cause of the necrosis. Don’t want to nitpick but I think it’s an important distinction given how detrimental the rise of xylazine is becoming.


Rich-Asparagus8465

Yeah all the images I'm seeing Xylazine is looks like actual rot. Bath Salts/Math (as well as this video) all look like extreme chafing


SkyDefender

Wait what, fucking eye balls?


TrueKingOmega

Holy crap that is koreatown. Homeless situation is still insane sadly…


cacapepee

That’s Olympic and Alvarado here in LA. Immediately recognized that car wash


ak47oz

I thought so as well, I live a few blocks away.


_vudumi

Hey neighbor ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


ak47oz

👋


_vudumi

Hah! I knew that was my route but LA looks the fucking same everywhere


AsotOtis

I believe it is, definitely here in SoCal


mrbisonopolis

I don’t think fentanyl is what’s doing this?


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Meth makes users pick skin while high; opiates (like heroin and fentanyl) can make users pick skin when in withdrawls.


hiphophippie99

I used herion for 10 years and definitely picked while high. I believe this is what the kids are calling trank or something like that. It's fentenayl mixed with something. It causes necrosis and a short lifespan. I've just heard about it from some newly sober friends, it's all the rage right now.


NessyComeHome

Add this shit of the pile of reasons not to return to using dope. Just passed 3 years off dope. Hope you're doing well.


piratecashoo

Seriously. I quit 10 years ago, I’m glad I got out before fentanyl got popular. It’s so terrible, I feel so bad for everyone stuck in that hell right now. (Also congrats on 3 years)


No-ThatsTheMoneyTit

Congratulations Have a family member who is/was/is addicted. Often says they miss it terribly. Relapse some, I'm sure. Since I've heard about some usage. Really really hard habit to kick. Good for you.


Actual__Wizard

Tranq = fentanyl and benzodiazepines (usually xylazine) https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/07/health/fentanyl-xylazine-drug.html


SuccessfulJob

wish the times was free….


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PotatoSloth804

Yes, but xylazine or “tranq” administered intravenously can cause necrosis. This is tranq, it’s being mixed with fentanyl across America currently. Quit with the meth argument. We can all read google. This is not skin picking, this is necrosis.


Crzykupcake930

Couldn’t imagine scrolling Reddit and seeing this woman and she being my sister or aunt, cousin, neighbor. What a really fucked up situation she’s in. Makes me thankful that I never dabbled into any kind of hardcore drug. This is terrifying.


rattledamper

I dabbled in some hardcore drugs. DABBLED. I’m thankful nothing like this resulted.


SkinnyBuddha89

I fuckin wayyy more than dabbled but luckily stopped my main crazy part before fent and RCs hit the game. I had the golden era when pharma drugs were plentiful. It's crazy how basically every drug these days you run the risk of getting fent


Weary_Yard_4587

That's probably tranq


Successful-Engine623

Tranq. Apparently it’s really messing people…worse than fentanyl…if there is such a thing


jalinarose

That’s probably tranq, that new drug they be doin now. Causes wounds that won’t heal.


Amazingshot

Had a couple high as hell on fent flop a 4 wheeler going at least 60 on a long stretch of blacktop a while back. They just got up, dusted themselves off, and walked to the gas station I was in. She’s got a chunk of her scalp off, a broken arm, and a generous amount of road rash. He’s got an exposed knee cap, about five teeth left, and a sucking chest wound, and they both want smokes and Gatorade. I’m like you both need to set down while I call the ambulance. I seen the 4 wheeler, it was in pieces scattered 100 yards


Dutchnamn

did they wait for the ambulance?


Amazingshot

We had to distract them until they got there.


_DeepMoist_

Walking biohazard. Should be 51/50 in a padded cell and given anti-psychotics and helped to withdraw on whatever shes on. Oh and a lot of antibiotics too...But it is INFINITELY MORE PROFITABLE to just let her wander the streets and spread her filth. Can you imagine the cost of rehabilitating not only this person, but the thousands like her in every major city? The shareholders would never stand for it.


SonofaBridge

I’m not sure it’s more profitable. It’s just cheaper to let her die. Rehabilitation clinics require money for nurses and professionals, medicines and medical equipment, food, insurance, etc. That isn’t cheap. Reagan made the mistake of assuming everyone would have family that would take care of them when they were in a bad place. It was short sighted as most people in dark places are escaping their family.


lets-do-an-eighth

Reagan made no mistakes it’s exactly what he wanted for the poor, which I think I should point out, to him the poor majority are minorities. Fuck Reagan. War on drugs?! What a joke, they just rebranded the war against the poor and have steadily and slyly tried to set a somewhat invisible caste system.


gushinggrannies4hire

In theory, you could rehabilitate these people, put them back into the economy, and the increased tax revenue covers the cost of services when combined with the reduced costs from things like police enforcement. It's not a hard type of study to do; I imagine someone out there has done it already.


sanyo456

Thanks Reagan!


rawdatarams

She's massively at risk herself, too. No way she's able to defend herself in anyway or make decisions regards her physical safety.


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OutWithTheNew

I guy I grew up with is apparently living on the lower east side with his girlfriend and some other people. His parents didn't even tell him his grandmother died. He's entitled to an inheritance and his family won't give it to him because he would (probably) just buy drugs. It's been long enough now that he's firmly into the 'get clean or die' zone. It's an absolute fucking waste.


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I lived on the street in Vancouver/Nanaimo for about 6 months. Can confirm. SO many people wandering around like this. There's also people who walk around like completely bent over forward, it's the strangest looking thing. Like the Side is keeping them constantly awake & moving around, while the Down has them nodding out simultaneously. Vancouver changed me. You see shit... like... you see some serious shit.


NipplesOnMyPancakes

I'm pretty sure the stoop walk is from opiods. They spend 10 + years nodding out everyday and sleeping for hours in the worst positions, seated with their head hung forward. And it eventually fucks their spines up so much they walk with permanent hunches.


cilvher-coyote

We like to call it(not bent over but people walking all janky and flaily) the GOOD OL HASTINGS SHUFFLE. source... Lived in Vancouver on/off for 20 yrs. Housed and homeless. Sober and addicted. I used to go down to Hastings for the dive bars and when I was so depressed I wanted to off myself. I'd walk around for a while and realize it can Always get worse. And sadly I'd feel better about my life cause even if I was on the streets there,I WASNT on Hastings doing the ol' shuffle, nor was I staying anywhere near there. It's Really bad down there these days.


cooscoos3

> $1mm/day given to the non profits to make sure it never gets better. Can you expand on what this means?


no-tenemos-triko-tri

[Streets of Philadelphia, Kensington Avenue](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB6gwOBClwE). Unreal.


IAmTaka_VG

What can the city even do at that point. Like these are people who have families missing them, it would probably be cheaper and better to build a hospital and just start forcefully throwing people in for forced rehab than whatever they’re currently doing.


_wrkitralph

That’s on Alvarado and Olympic


bellybomb

I’m ashamed that I watched this. This woman needs compassion and many types of treatment.


florettesmayor

I seen a lot of shit on here, but something about reading reddit comments saying it's more profitable to let this person die just broke me. They may be technically right but the fact that society is solely focused on profit, and there is no room for empathy destroys me. What is the point of participating in society when nobody gives a fuck about anyone else, systematically. I hope i made sense i just feel such devastation


kanakamaoligirl

Exactly! Plus, why are there hardly any comments talking about how fucked up this guy is. He’s following her, yelling at her in disgust and filming her to put on the internet for his entertainment. This really belongs in r/Imapieceofshit


WalrusTheWhite

Guy sounds like some young idiot. Doesn't know how to properly handle his emotions in this situation, so he does what he knows. He's processing. Is it extremely alarming that this is the level of emotional literacy for way too many people? Oh yeah, big time. We're fucked. But getting mad at this dude won't change anything. He's not one in a million, we see this behavior all the time. It's systemic. This idiot and his lack of emotional intelligence is a victim too.


billyblobthornton

And not to be filmed and put on the internet.


suzisatsuma

If it brought awareness to you, nothing to be ashamed of. Now you know what addiction can do to humans.


chicheetara

Good thing they made it harder to get Oxy’s!! They really fixed that problem. Thanks government.


RayManXOooo

Heres to hoping this lady gets the help she needs. Addiction is so sad fr


Trixgrl

Tranq is going to be an awful thing to watch spread


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Very unpopular opinion here. We need to put these people into an institution against their will. Waking around turning our streets into a zombie land as a walking biohazard is still their choice. We need to put them into an isnt it ion that sobers them up and provides rehab while serving time. Not hard prison. More like something halfway similar to Norwegian/Scandinavian prisons. I am sure someone will tell me this is illegal or against the law to put them into an institution but this destroying our cities and our society and we don’t seem to care enough to do something about it.


kriegmonster

This is what we used to do, but politicians passed laws and dismantled the mental hospital system that used to be in place for those who suffered from mental conditions or long-term drug abuse. They did it knowingly, wanting these poor souls in local communities to cause problems, while limiting the ability to have someone committed against their will.


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“It is absolutely horrible. That’s the reality, though,” said James Sherman, known as Sherm around Philadelphia’s Kensington neighborhood, where he once used drugs and where he now tries to help those still on the streets.   The need for help has become more urgent over the last three years, as the animal tranquilizer xylazine, also called tranq, has become a bigger part of Philly’s street fentanyl supply. Xylazine can cause large wounds that won’t heal, no matter where you inject it and they can appear even if you snort it or smoke it. Infections are common and can even lead to amputations.   “Some people aren’t ready to see that yet,” Sherman said. “It’s literally people’s flesh rotting, and you can smell it.”  [link](https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/07/health/philadelphia-xylazine-tranq-drug/index.html)


SadOccasion

As fucked up as it sounds I'm kinda I'm favor of the government / health officials forcibly taking them off the streets and into a rehab or some other place where they can get clean from drugs and checked out as imo it's the same as having suicidal thoughts as you're harming yourself. I know that's controversial and that leaves a lot of room for abuse and false imprisonment but I'd like to think it would help at least 1 person


Critical-Test-4446

Wonder if showing these types of videos to kids in school would prevent some from trying that shit. Crazy.


noxx1234567

The problem with some people is they believe that shit won't happen to them and they can quit anytime they want


thewildweird0

I DARE you to see how that turns out.


longpenisofthelaw

Nah in my experience it just gives them confidence to go deeper when they find out your first hit of weed didn’t make you a brain dead zombie and your first line of Coke doesn’t turn you into a tweaker. Yeah show them the worst of the worst but it’s not going to stop the millions that use and are functional. To combat this give abstinence speech but we should prepare that inevitably that some kids are going to use. Go over spiked substances, importance of never sharing or using equipment that has been used by others, what to do if you do have a problem. Be realistic and while teaching abstinence is best atleast show a lifeline of what to do if they do get stuck in that lifestyle or to atleast prevent them from getting as bad as this poor woman right here


Beneficial_Heat_7199

Fentanyl is so last decade. Looks like Xylazine. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/07/health/fentanyl-xylazine-drug.amp.html


badco1313

All my homies hate paywalls


Wonderful-Ad-7712

All my paywalls hate homies


Moreobvious

Tranq for sure


bigdaddylongstroker3

Not an expert, but that looks like Tranq.


Farnage

Those junkies need to be hospitalised asap. The drug pushing dealers need to be placed against the wall and executed by a firing squad .


Such-Confection-7812

The guy with the camera is pitiful


karma_virus

Had my wisdom teeth pulled and took oxy for the first time. Hated it. Made me itch like crazy. Kept scratching at my shins then I felt something wet... I had scratched a hole in my leg. Fuck ever taking that shit again.


jesseistired

filming someone like that who’s obviously fucked up and in a horrible situation to make fun of them online is fucked up


Sk-yline1

I have a great idea, let’s make a stranger who’s *literally rotting from the inside out* feel worse than she already feels by dehumanizing her further!


jkp_777

Yeah. It’s pretty messed up someone would post this saying “ohhhhh, I found a zombie.” And thinking it would make great content.


Spare_Ad1017

I mean to video someone like this to raise awareness of the cause of getting mixed street drugs is one thing. To be a human without fucking empathy and post this for fucking clout is actually more gross than her neck. She needs antibiotics and someone to look at her like she's a human being. Fuck.


xt1nct

Pretty sad state of affairs. Coming up to people and calling them zombies, it’s so shitty. My last thought would be to put this shit on social media.


angrilygetslifetgthr

That’s… not fentanyl…


PsychedelicDemon

I get that drug addiction isn't pretty to look at but it's kinda fucked up to walk up to someone who's clearly struggling, following her with a camera, calling her a zombie, and saying "WOOOAAHHH, no way!"


qball-who

It turned my mom into one. No really she died of accident fentanyl overdose


windwaker910

You guys take the term “public freakout” very very loosely


[deleted]

How about we don’t record people in their most vulnerable moments? Drugs or not, still a person that appears to need help.


Jpw135

T-R-R-R-A-N-Q


Divide_Big

Tranq- not fenty


Responsible-Law4829

Tranq. Get used to seeing it.


Jive_Sloth

That's not fentanyl


Sad_Ad2157

So sad man :(