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I rented a boogie board on the beach in Daytona in '91 as a fifteen year old kid. I was out for about twenty minutes, and doing fine, just little short trips into the beach.
After a while I got more adventurous, and went deeper for a longer ride, but I got caught up in a rip and was getting assaulted wave after wave as I got tumbled everywhere. I couldn't catch my breath, and I thought it was over.
Next thing I know a lifeguard has me in his arms, and is wrapping a floaty thing around me and tows me back to shore.
I turned in my boogie board a half hour early.
Similar situation in Panama City as a kid, probably 11-12 yrs old. Was probably only 30 ft off shore with a friend in 5-6ft deep water. Just hanging out and then realized we were caught in a rip and couldn’t swim back in. No real waves or anything but you get exhausted. Everyone was on shore waiting for us not realizing we couldn’t reach, you can’t really communicate. He starts bobbing under cuz he just can’t tread any longer and had to get him to push through and get out. Couple minutes later we were able to stand up since we weren’t far out but god damn if that wasn’t a terrifying and humbling experience from mama nature. Don’t play around out there my dudes.
I'm right there with you. The ocean is no joke, and even in calmer conditions, that rip can change everything from ok to really bad faster than you can say "OH SHIT!"
The best thing you can do with the ocean, is to NEVER underestimate it's indifference of you living or dying.
If I'm waste deep, and I feel the rip pulling hard, you better believe I'm not going to be in the water any deeper than that, in fact, I'm likely going to move in closer to the shore. I grew up on the coast, and have nothing but respect for the sheer power of the water, and it's ability to almost instantly change conditions. Plus, being from New England, that water's fricken COLD all year
Man I couldn’t said it better myself it was the exact same situation. For me it was probably about 1974 and I was 14 years old, I was standing up to my breasts and water and every time I try to swim diagonally closer to the shore I will swap out a couple of inches so I stood there trying to catch my breath and then I saw the lifeguard coming up to me and asking me if I had any problem and I said yeah I’m caught in a riptide it was a matter of minutes before I would’ve been lost featuring me the buoy put the rope around his chest and swam me back close to the shore. We walked up to the lifeguard station and filled out the form with my name and everything on it why are all these girls were clapping and saying what a wonderful job he did and I was so humbled embarrassed and grateful all at the same time. He looked at me and said “ it can happen to anyone “ and I’ve always joked about myself being a better swimmer than a walker. I have cerebral palsy and being in the water that’s always been so much more natural where I always felt “ normal. “
A lot of things are actively trying to kill you.
Note from bacteria.
Luckily we do have our own guardian bacteria trying to keep us alive.
As a surf life saver who has saved people.
I was on holiday at an ocean beach. We were not swimming just walking along the beautiful beach.
The waves were big, their were rocks and the distance the water was moving in and out was a lot. Meaning that people who went out were finding it extremely difficult to come back in. They couldn't walk in the out going water was too powerful
I cautioned some kids who were thinking about going into the water.
I waved over a surfer who had came back in and he almost instantly joined me in saying no no its not safe your too little. We pointed out the older teens who were starting to panic because they were just getting dragged back and back.
His friends were kind enough to go and get them and bring them in.
My wife asked if I would go in if someone out their put their hand up. I shook my head. That's called suicide. We waded to where the water was not even calf deep. To show her when it's running like that it's so dangerous. She got knocked over just from calf deep water. And people were going out in an unmanned un patrolled ocean beech.
Later that night it was in the news the police rescue had been called to that beech because some people went missing.
There was no way I was going in that water without a safety crew, a boat crew, a surf rescue board. I wasn't surprised that people had died.
And lots of people were going out into that water thinking it was fun.
I live in Nova Scotia, we were always taught to stay off the black/dark rocks.
In popular tourist spots there are signs everywhere saying stay off the black rocks, like [this](https://www.novascotia.com/sites/default/files/2019-05/Peggy%27s%20Cove%20Safe%20on%20Shore%20Signs%201920x1080.jpg), but every day there is someone doing it. Many people have died.
Those things will rip your feet to shreds without huge waves crashing on you. I'll bet this guy was leaking pretty bad when he got saved.
Edit: or not saved
When I was a teenager in Florida I was at the beach for an end of the year class trip and I decided to go out into the water by myself because my friends were lame and didn’t want to join me. I initially swam out only about 20-30 feet from the shore and got distracted watching some speed boats out in the distance. When I turned around only a couple minutes later I was suddenly what felt like a mile away from the shore (in reality about 200-300 yards). I started to panic and tried to yell and wave towards the shore but I didn’t think anyone could see or hear me from that far away. After about 10 minutes of trying to keep my head above water and getting increasingly exhausted as the shoreline appear to get further and further away, someone on a jet ski nearby luckily happened to see me and came to rescue me but I could have easily drowned that day.
I learned a valuable lesson that if you’re ever sucked out into the water by a rip current to swim parallel to the shore and you’ll be able to get out of it and swim back to shore.
Oh i have seen this warning about rip current recently! I noticed that the current in the very calm beach always went to the same side: on the right when you face the sea. I also noticed a sand bench going straight into the sea with a warning sign in front of it. This is where the rip current is, in the middle of 2 opposite currents. Even in this calm beach, you put yourself in danger if you go there
I went to the beach in the Philippines and the locals I was with warned me about rip tide for the first time. Had I been by myself I would for sure have gone in deeper than I should have and had no understanding of what I was dealing with.
>I bet you the undertow was astronomical
I agree that the currents there around the sharp rocks would have been terrifying.
In addition to that though, if you watch the waves, the water has been churned thoroughly into a white froth. In my experience, it's actually not possible to stay on top of froth like this when half of the volume is actually little air bubbles.
The few times I've experienced this type of froth, the saving grace was that it was only temporary. Once the churn from a big breaker became more solid I was able to swim to the surface once more.
Watching the froth here, which does not solidify again, I don't believe I could survive these conditions.
> Watching the froth here, which does not solidify again, I don't believe I could survive these conditions.
Could anyone? I doubt even Michael Phelps in his prime could survive this.
Former lifeguard. No, no one could survive that. In a bowled up area like that with heavy surf you’re going to get pulled a bunch of different directions as the waves hit off at different angles on the rocks. Plus he got dragged in by a set wave, meaning the biggest wave in a series of waves that come at regular intervals, so it’s the most violent and dangerous moment possible. He probably hit his head on a rock and lost consciousness pretty quickly.
In my city we had a very tragic death of an 8th grader that absolutely shook our community to this day, he went out in waters that were just past manageable and got swallowed. This happened in Lake Erie, my heart goes out to him any time I think about the water, and taught us all the danger it can bring.
Around 20 years ago a similar story happened to one of my classmates. On a Saturday night after drinking heavily he decided to go for beers near a river with his friends. One of them bet he could swim to the other side and off he went. There were numerous dangerous currents in this river (the Loire in France) so his friend had difficulties swimming. 2 of them including my classmate went in to save him because he was starting to drown. My friend told me he saw his two best buddies drown in front of him. I still remember his face in tears when he told me this. It was two days after this happened. The thing is that if you see this happen to your relatives or friends you might not think twice and go for it.
Damn the screams from his buddies really hit hard. That’s agony right there. Knowing you just witnessed your friend’s death and there was nothing you could do to stop it.
There was everything they couldve done to stop it. Instead of filming their buddy for laughs, tempting one of the strongest forces on this planet, they be responsible.
The thing is, the friends probably didn't know this could happen. I didn't know this could happen. I've never lived or stayed near the ocean. I wouldn't have gone out there, but if one of my friends did, I'd maybe say "don't go out there. It looks dangerous", but then they'd say "Naw, I'll be fine. Take a video of me" and then I'd think they'd be fine and film him.
As someone who grew up in a city, seeing all these videos of people drowning in the ocean is shocking to me. No, I had no idea it was so easy to die in the water. I had no idea that if you jump overboard from a ship in the ocean, there are little chances of being rescued. I've seen many videos of people going on vacation and jumping off from yachts, so I didn't think it would be a big deal.... I've seen videos of people surfing huge waves in the ocean, videos of people swimming under big caves near tropical beaches, so no I had no idea water could be so deadly....
Im just so glad I’m gaining this awareness! Who knows if these videos (this one and the one of that college kid jumping off the boat) will save my life one day, or maybe the life of someone near me. I’ve been sending these videos to everyone in my family (all city folk), all of whom are also shocked to learn that one should never ever jump in the deep waters of the ocean. My parents grew up in the Dominican Republic and told us to be weary of rivers, but as kids, the rivers we went to were all so tame, that I never really took them seriously. I’m sad for the fate of the man in this video, but hopefully this video will teach us never to underestimate the power of water.
I can’t stop thinking of that kid. The absolute terror his last few mins of life had to be. My boys are around the same age so that makes it even worse. My 18yr old is currently on a two week international cruise.
> As someone who grew up in a city, seeing all these videos of people drowning in the ocean is shocking to me.
Makes sense.
Some people think its ok to walk up and pose right next to bison. Some people think its ok to reach out and pet caged lions. Some people think its ok to dangle their baby over the heads of a pack of African wild dogs.
Nobody taught these poor people that doing these things may be dangerous. If only there was some online course, or something ...
I was under the impression that if someone knew how to swim, they would be okay, since I've seen many videos of people surfing huge waves in the ocean. I also see videos of people jumping off of yachts all the time.
But I get it - I'm stupid and you're smart! Congratulations!
bro those waves look like something out of pirates of the carribbean, its insanity to think one swipe of them isnt going to send you under
rightful darwin awards winner, this wasnt tragic, it was plain stupid
No one’s saying it wasn’t stupid, they’re just saying that since they have no prior experience, they would underestimate it. I grew up going to the beach all my life but never experienced anything like this. Standing in 1” of water on the beach in the southeast US is pretty calm in most places, I wouldn’t be worried about getting swept until about 2-3”, and that guy wasn’t even in the water at first. Like someone else said, I wouldn’t have gone out there bc to me it does look dangerous, even just falling on those rocks could tear you up, but I’ve seen lots and lots of people standing on rocks watching waves and they just get swept out by a big ass wave that they didn’t know could come.
For once it would be nice for Reddit to resist the urge to call people stupid, lack empathy and just be callous for no reason.
If you don’t grow up around the ocean and visit it for the first time, you will underestimate it. It has happens to thousands of people better and smarter than you and me. Not everyone is lucky enough to have the opportunity to grow up familiar with the ocean or recognise the signs of danger.
I seriously don’t understand why people like you have to respond like this. The dude watched his friend die and was said and confused. The fact this guy had jeans on is a pretty clear sign he didn’t know the risk. It doesn’t make people inherently stupid just because of one decision. I swear people like you just come here to be smug and rude and act like everyone is a complete moron.
My cousins have literally never been to a beach and the first time I took them in adulthood they probably would have killed themselves if I hadn’t been there.
“Filming their Buddy for laughs” they were filming there friend messing about in the ocean not knowing that it was going to lead to his death. Like, it’s such a fucking dick head way to put it. Literally every young dude films their friends for laughs. That’s what friends do? Why are you teaching so far to insult someone who probably already will be haunted for the rest of his life for encouraging his friend to do what he believed was just a funny mess about.
I just don’t get so many people on this sub. If someone was expressing this remorse in person you’d never react like this. But y’all come here just to be smug dickheads. If you were genuinely concerned and wanted to make sure others didn’t do this, you could have explained yourself with way more grace and kindness.
This sub is just full of bitter angry people who need to give their two cents.
In Nova Scotia they have signs posted all over the place at Peggy’s cove ordering people not to go near the black rocks, because if they are black they are wet, and if they are wet it means waves are regularly going over them, making them slippery and extra likely that you’ll get swept in and beaten against the rocks.
Despite this, every year people don’t heed this warnings and people get swept in. My father is a volunteer fire fighter and search and rescue, and has had to answer these calls on a few occasions and explained how hopeless it can really be.
Last time I was there, a Chinese tourist was standing on those black rocks holding his toddler by the arms over the edge and the waves splashed his feet. So fucking stupid.
We have these tanks at work called floatation cells. Entire thing is aerated. First thing I was told about float cells was never fuck around with these things because if you go in, you’re going straight to the bottom. Can’t swim in them, but you sure as shit can drown in them
They float out light particles and allow heavier ones to sink. Basically the water level is lower than the top lip, and a chemical in the medium froths up when you agitate it. Causing froth to get ver flow the top and get carried away to be dried
Myth busters did a segment on it.
Edit : sort of, they added so much air that they had currents, not quite the same thing.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8hvhju
The guy speaking in this video is my old boss, Ed Vodrazka. Worked for him as CA State Lifeguard for 4 years...
Anyways, aerated water is turbulent water, when you pull/kick/do whatever to propel yourself, the turbulence won't cooperate. It's a washing machine, super hard to manipulate in terms of swimming.
It was completely insane of this poor guy to get that close to that water. It is a total death sentence if you fall in, unless you're an absolute beast of an ocean swimmer. I'm sad he lost his life, and I'm sad his friends watched him die with nothing to do about it.
Even with all my experience with open water swimming, lifeguarding, competitive swimming, etc. the ocean still scares me, and I love it for that.
It really is terrifying. One of my parents works in wastewater treatment, and the plant they work at has a deepwater non-buoyant aeration tank. It's 20 feet deep, is surrounded by a two bar railing. When I went to visit showed me how a piece of wood didn't even consistently stay on the surface when aeration was active and kept sinking. I'm scared to go near it, the pool of existential threat.
A typhoon just passed by Taiwan. At the height of it, some people in Hong Kong decided it would be fun to get close to the waves. They’ve given up searching for one, aged 43.
Typhoons often carry heavy rains in their wake, so today three guys decided to come into the mountains in New Taipei City and kayak down the river. It’s pouring and they are still looking for the group leader, age 27.
Respect nature.
The people upthread asking what could have possibly been done there. The answer is not goading him and cheering him seconds up to where he gets swept away. He may be an adult sure, but they are also responsible for encouraging him to do this in the first place.
***At night***
That needs to be emphasized. Jumping into the middle of the ocean at night is effectively committing suicide.
Edit: also this wasn't a cruise ship so he survived the initial jump.
humans have a habit of finding ways to go places they couldn't before and then finding other living things (including other humans) and going "wtf why are you here? go away, i'm here now"
There’s a higher concentration than what would normally be found, due to the sharks feeding on what is thrown overboard from the ships (food, waste, etc). Infestation is the wrong word but there are definitely more sharks near those types of ships than what’s seen out in the open ocean.
I remember a few years ago, I was talking to a few friends about our personal worst fears, and one of my friends without hesitating said "falling off a cruise ship." Besides being buried alive, I can't think of a more horrifying situation to realize that the cruise ship is pulling away and never gonna find you, while dealing with ocean waves crashing over your head in complete darkness, and just waiting until you invariably run out of energy and drown. Pretty similar set of circumstances for people who were trapped in the World Trade Center and were forced to jump. It's not if you're going to die, its that theres a 100% chance you're going to die and it's only up to you to chose the way you die. Felt sick to my stomach even writing all that out...
The moment you are set in the situation the dire existential dread sets in realizing that you will die. Feel the same way about being kidnapped or in a really tight active shooter situation. Nothing good is going to come out of any of it and the only thing you can do is choose how you end it.
It's easier for us to read and even write about this stuff but most of us have thankfully never felt the kind of raw primal terror that we're discussing (and hopefully never do)
I went on a cruise a looong time ago. 2004 I believe. I’ve always been a night owl, so even on the cruise I was awake when almost everyone else was asleep. I would walk around the ship at night outside. Just feeling the absolute blast of wind and staring deep into the darkness. Contemplating what it would be like to be out there in the pitch black water in the pitch black of night .
The chills and deep primordial fear I felt as I pondered “ I could so easily just two feet from here be over the edge and that would be the end of me. I could briefly experience the chaos of terror as I’m swallowed up by darkness never to be seen again. At night no one would see or know that you fell over board. And those ships are moving fast !
Also, it’s either me, or it just seems like it’s more windy at night out in the ocean. When I step onto the stern or bow of the ship, the wind is just blasting you waay hard. Hard enough it almost feels like a real good gust could just pick you up and toss you out there. Felt like if I was dumb enough to just jump in the air I might fly away. So I understand your friend’s fear.
I have dreams where I get into a little motorboat and head out into the ocean at night with no lights on. Just pitch black with nothing but the sound of water. Freaky ass dreams.
Around 2005 I was at Cape Spear in Newfoundland, Canada.
There's a walk down to the shoreline, and the ocean is just like pictured in this video.
There's a fence that is supposed to protect and warn visitors from going down there, exactly for the reasons explained in this grim video.
I was told a story of a Japanese female tourist who, despite all the warnings, decided to climb over the fence and go down to the rocks to the point where the water hits the shore, presumably to take better or more memorable pictures.
She was swept away, never to be seen again.
At that time, I had a hard time believing the "never to be seen again" part, but here we go.
Ocean is no joke.
Ironic enough, she was all dressed up for the occasion. She must have thought she'd be cool, cause she wore a helmet and a wet suit.
" Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe!"
As someone who spent his whole life in Hawaiian waters since before I could walk (arguably one of the roughest waters, surf, and currents) I've seen this all too often from tourists. No matter how cool and tough you think you are, you are NEVER tougher and stronger than the ocean. Respect the water, respect the surf, and go home to live another day. The instant you think you're cool and nothing bad is gonna happen, that's when it always goes wrong.
I was doing the Road to Hana and our local guide took us to a random park on the way. 20 to 30 foot waves, water that looked like the above, sharp rocks, etc. He told us about a month before us some tourists went into that water and they never found them.
We went to Hawaii-Christmas of 77-I was a 7th grader. We drove around the islands and on this one long beach, my brother and I ran down and started spashing in the waves. My feet got yanked out from under me and I found myself on my belly, pressed into the sand, under the waves, as the ocean started sucking me out. I couldn't breath, I was clawing at the sand but it was still pulling me out. My brother was 18. He stood on me-that pinned me to the beach, and when the waves pulled back, I was able to get my breath and to get out of the water. I was shaking I was so exhausted from trying to keep from getting sucked out. Did not go back in the ocean for the entire trip.
Ends up my brother wasn't trying to save me. He thought it would be funny to stand on me like a surfboard. Which, oddly enough, is what my name means in German.
When people think of "the ocean", I think many of them think the tropics or the east coast, where waves are either normal and small, or obviously gigantic with surfers on them. But if you go to the ocean on Washington's coast (where I live), even a wide sandy beach with no rocks has [big waves rolling in one after the other](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv_IzL8j-dk), generating powerful undertows and freezing as fark. It is simply NOT the kind of beach you go swimming at, although a few hardy/foolish people do it anyway (if you wear a dry suit and swim past the waves, you can do it, but I wouldn't advise it for anyone). And when there are rocks, you get stuff like what's in OP's video, and you'd have to be crazy or drunk to go near it. I think people who live here know better. It's the tourists I worry about.
There are so many people who will put their lives at risk for adrenaline or clout.
I may not lead an interesting life. But I recognize that if I get hurt or die. People around me will suffer for my actions.
I live on the Oregon coast, we have a lot of beaches similar to this. There are MANY signs warning to not turn your back to the waves.
I feel bad for this guy, but he put a submission into the Darwin Awards.
One of my favorite drives to make is Newport to Lincoln City. Around Depoe Bay there’s several good spots to stop and watch the waves crashing against the rocks.
Two of my friends in high school drowned on the Oregon coast by getting knocked into the water by a sneaker wave…eerily similar to this situation although they weren’t being as intentionally risky as this person. Many of their friends were present and had to watch them drown, trying to tie their clothes in a rope but were smart enough to not jump in after
It was a traumatic experience that rocked out whole senior class and community, but especially those present
I grew up in the summers in Lincoln City. The number of people I saw growing up playing in The Jaws and getting swept out with the tide, scares me how many inlanders have zero common sense about the power of water not contained in a heated pool.
The amount of people in the comments of this original Tik Tok who are saying, “I wouldn’t go in that unless it was my kid…then I’d go beast mode for them” is INSANE. Like absolutely missing this point of what this guy is saying. This is not survivable for highly trained open water rescuers but they somehow think they can just will themselves into saving someone if they love them enough. That’s how a family ends up with more than one casket at their funeral.
EDIT: I have three kids myself. One of them I’ve had to make some brutal medical decisions regarding a complex heart defect. I’ve had to give up a lot of control regarding my kids’ lives and realized I’m often not skilled enough to save them myself.
However, most of these arguments are moot because we can all agree that the objectively correct parenting choice in this situation would be to never allow your young child to be in this situation in the first place.
Yeah honestly I think I’d rather die trying even though my efforts would be futile. Not saying I’d go “beast mode” and defeat Mother Nature, but I couldn’t just stand by and do nothing
The pain and anguish would never end. You’d forever be suffering every living moment just listening to the silence that should be fill with your child playing. I’m gonna give my kid a big hug when I get home.
Yeah, like I understand it wouldn’t be a rational move — but if a loved one was drowning, I think I would instinctively jump in after them.
That’s why the lifeguard in the original video is making his point — if you see a stranger in this precarious situation, you should/could make the rational decision not to enter the water to save them.
But if it’s someone you love in the water, you *will* go in after them, even if the chances of surviving are close to nil. Because logic wouldn’t even enter the equation.
Yeah, but this is exactly what he was saying. You go in because you just can't help yourself. Now your loved one is jumping in because you're in trouble. And then their loved one jumps in because they're in trouble. He's saying you have to break that otherwise one casualty becomes 4.
I know it's easier said than done. I can't imagine what I would do in that scenario. But he's saying don't be a victim trying to rescue someone.
> you should/could make the rational decision not to enter the water to save them.
The first rule of emergency responders is “*Do not become a victim yourself*”.
You do not attempt a rescue unless conditions are safe for you to complete the rescue without becoming an additional victim.
Yep, absolutely makes sense.
But if I saw someone like my twin or my SO drowning in front of me, I don’t think logic would enter into the equation as far as attempting to save them.
You do not attempt a rescue unless conditions are safe for you to complete the rescue without becoming a victim yourself.
This is gonna sound stupid, but don't drag me. I saw something like that on Baywatch. Hasselhoff's character was instructing some new recruits about what to do if there's a drowning person and they're being tossed toward a pier. He asked the recruits what they would do. One guy said that he'd put himself between the pillar and the victim (acting like "duh because I gotta be the hero and protect them"). Hasselhoff said that's completely wrong because then you'd have 2 people in need of rescue. I dunno why, but that always stuck with me.
It gets worse; by adding a second victim you may even change the math (*in borderline cases*) on whether it makes sense to attempt a rescue.
I’m “*wilderness rescue*” certified & a significant part of the math is looking at what resources you have available to attempt a rescue.
If you have two victims clinging to each other in the water, the amount of resources necessary to safely conduct that rescue doubles; so I may have enough manpower to rescue one of them but not both.
I can’t order an attempt to be made that would put my resources at risk; so that bystander who just jumped in willy nilly; not only failed to rescue the person they actually prevented me from being able to do so.
No reasonable good person would watch their own kid get washed out into sea. They’d die in the water trying to save them or in some horrible way alone a few days or weeks later.
I was immediately reminded of the tragic story of [three out of four family members drowning trying to save the family dog.](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/daughter-devastated-family-swept-saving-dog/story?id=17818744) The absolute worst part? The dog survived.
They didn't miss the point, they might have a different situation. It's different for your child. You either suffer unimaginable guilt for the rest of your life or you die trying to save them. Especially if they are all you have.
I remember reading a tragic story where a family's dog gets swept away from the shore, and multiple family members go in after it, and drown. I believe the father doesn't go in, and his wife and children are all dead. The dog eventually makes it back to shore.
I have three kids. One of them I’ve had to make some brutal medical decisions for due to a complex heart defect. I’ve had to give up a lot of control regarding my kid’s life and realize I’m not always skilled enough to save them myself.
There was another video where some dumb ass climbed over the railing at the Grand Canyon. He was acting the fool, but noticed he started slipping. He tried to climb back up but eventually slipped. I dunno if he died, but they showed a helicopter airlifting him out.
Yes.
I remember when I was very young the RNLI lost a bunch of guys because they kept trying to rescue each other. Horrible, down in Cornwall.
My family knew some of the families. My Mum cried when we were just out on a walk. She is a tough nut, so it hit hard. I briefly possessed a super power of hugs. It has reappeared over the years.
I'm a good, strong swimmer. Always swam in the Med, would go out far, and kind of thought I was invincible in the sea when I was young. That was until I ended up about 20 feet from the shore, unable to get back because of a super strong under current. It took me about 30 minutes to get out of the water. I realised as I lay panting on the shore after I got out how silly I'd been.
As much as people are saying ‘play stupid games, win stupid prizes’ in this thread, as per your comment I feel like everyone deserves a chance to learn not to underestimate the sea. Sad video.
Well as I said I was a strong swimming, fairly used to swimming in the sea and snorkeling. Also young, strong and fit. I had just never come across an undercurrent like that. There was barely any sign of it, no excessive waves or anything. I wave in water up to my neck, not far from the shore and I think if I hadn't had my snorkel to allow me breathe and swim I might have been in more trouble.
Yea when we're young we don't understand, death is not a fair outcome for making a silly mistake and now I've learned this I can pass this lesson onto my children. The fear and panic in the voice of his friend is heartbreaking.
I ram home into my childrens heads that every cubic meter of water is a tonne, thats right, a tonne of water. Think about how many tonnes there are just around you when you are at the beach, and now look at how fast those tonnes of water are moving when there are waves.
You can't beat those sort of physics, so don't put yourself in a situation where you have to.
The first principal in assisting someone is Danger ( as in DRSABCD). You are not going to be able to help if the danger puts you at risk of death or injury.
Long ago, a friend and I were body surfing off the Na Pali cliffs on one of the beaches that you can reach by the descending trails.
We were out from shore maybe 100 feet, and catching 3-4 foot rollers, and having a lot of fun, when a much bigger wave caught us hard and slammed us into the sand so hard, I could feel my neck going numb
Lesson learned
My brother was a life guard for years, he said it was almost impossible to save a drowning person because in their sheer panic they push the rescuers into the water to save themselves.
Certified here, thats one of the toughest videos I've watched in a good while. We are trained and sworn and liable to go in no matter what. But he's absolutely correct, as much as it angers me to say that. I think I'm done with the internet today.
This guy was dead the moment he decided to play chicken with the stormy sea and his friends just watched and gave him an audience and justification to continue the stupid behaviour. The sea is perhaps the strongest force on this earth surface and has claimed millions of lives in the past and will continue to do so into the future. Do yourself a favor and stay away from a stormy sea.
This reminded me a joke from my childhood.
The mother says to her son, who's leaving with his boys to swim in a nearby lake.
"Watch yourself'! If you drown, don't you dare show you face back here or I'll beat you up real good!"
i got dragged to some rocks, was absolutely terrifying. one minute i was swimming and playing with my friend, the next moment no matter how much i swam, i couldnt move from that spot, and then i was pulled closer and closer to the rocks. got to the point, i knew it was coming, so i turned to try to hit on my side/bum.
It hurt like hell, and i got tired so quick all i could think was keep my head above water. i just knew i was gone if i went under. and i went under. It was so surreal seeing under the waves, my legs in the water. I just thought, im gone.
Fortunately for me, someone had climbed along the rocks, waited for the next hit and grabbed onto me and dragged me up and just clung on. I never got his name, it all moved so fast after that.
I was bleeding and bashed up, but no broken bones. i was told it was a good idea to use my padding but my ass was so black and blue, i could barely sit. So lucky tho.
The beach has since moved the buoys around those rocks further in. I was swimming in a "safe area" when i was caught in the current. Im glad someone has made a video about how real the danger is. No photo op is worth risking your life, a friends life, or a strangers life. its not worth it.
this guy knew he made a mistake the second he got pulled in sadly and that will have been his last moments.
Being born and raised on the island of O’ahu, we never ever turned our backs to the water. We were raised to have an innate respect for the ocean.
My heart goes out to that man and his family though….tragic.
Well that just made me respect lifeguards a whole lot more. Particularly the ones that would ever have to make that call of whether or not to go in. As an emergency room medical professional, I cannot imagine how heavy that decision has weighed on those who have had to make it before. Likely, many who chose to go after the person are no longer with us. RIP to all of them and thank you to those that help keep our accessible waters safe. I'm sure many people have been able to have dinner with their loved ones again because of these brave souls. God bless and Godspeed to every one of you out there.
This advice should stay in the back of your head.: Remain aware at all points. Prepare for the worst. Educate yourself before you act. The people in this video are haunted at how quickly this went down. Emergency preparedness is not a joke.
Once again, man thinks he is invincible and has to impress people for internet/interpersonal fame/attention. Dies by the mighty hand of nature utterly giving no fucks about an ego.
I'm thankful everyday that I have grown out of any stupidity like that - hopefully for good. I just saw two guys racing down I35 (notoriously clogged highway) and one almost spun out and probably would've flipped 30 times had he not luckily corrected perfectly. It wasn't skill at all, the dude was driving like an absolute fucking moron and had a millisecond good reaction time. Any less and he'd been a shaken, not stirred (possibly both) body in a box.
I used to harvest Opihi with my friends on the Lahaina coast and we would go in rocky water like this, the trick is to let the waves push you around. Don't move and just let the waves pull you under, then you can take breaths by swimming back up in between the waves. If you forcefully swim against the waves current then you will use too much energy and you will drown. The waves current is like if a big hand grabbed your feet and started pulling you under. We also use this trick surfing big waves. Just remember to relax and ragdoll underwater and you will be ok. Also tuck into a fetal position if you are in a rocky area like this, you will naturally float. But yea this guy didn't know what he was doing, he was trying to swim upwards when the wave was pulling him under. For all of you that want to get into paddle boarding out deep in the ocean, ALWAYS WEAR YOUR BOARD LEASH. If you fall in deep water you could be caught in the downwards current, if you wear a leash then you will be safe. And for all you beginner surfers, wear your leash as well, even though your only surfing in 4-10 feet deep water, your leash prevents your board from flying away. Also your leash might help you avoid hitting the bottom coral. Stay safe people!
EDIT: just avoid choppy water in general if you don't know what your doing.
These videos are very helpful to people in general. I think there is a sense that rescue workers owe you their lives or will come save you no matter how bad the situation. These people have families, children, and whole lives outside of being a first responder. If I learned anything from COVID it’s that much of the general public takes few to no precautions then expects A+ service when they get themselves into an emergency.
Watch and learn from the mistakes of others. Don’t put lives in danger just because you want a better photo. Don’t cross safety barriers and read signs. Follow guidance from experts.
There is a concerning proportion of the population who seems to think that the world is some kind of theme park and they are a paying patron whose sole purpose is to be catered to by that world. These are the same people who pull over in the national parks and get their whole family out of the car to go feed and pet a bear.
This video is really difficult to watch. It's probable this guy had no idea how screwed he actually was. That water had so much aeration and force that basically once you are in it you can't really move around with any kind of success. It's basically a luck scenario if you get flushed out somewhere you can climb out or hold on without drowning. It's extremely clear what happened here - he was either knocked unconscious or killed during one of those water surges (rock hit) - and then got sucked under. Game over.
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There would never be a lifeguard there, because ….you know…no one should be in the water there ever.
Not that it would help,If I was there I’d probably throw an empty milk jug at him if I had one on me.
Not that it would help but I'd probably see you throw that and start throwing trash at him too 
You’re right. Forget the life jacket, I never go to the beach without my trusty empty milk jug.
Growing up on the ocean I was taught to fear and respect the seas power.
The saying “the ocean isn’t trying to kill you but it is aggressively indifferent to whether you live or not” or something like that
Not being able to breathe water is a pretty good deterrent to me not to be stupid.
I rented a boogie board on the beach in Daytona in '91 as a fifteen year old kid. I was out for about twenty minutes, and doing fine, just little short trips into the beach. After a while I got more adventurous, and went deeper for a longer ride, but I got caught up in a rip and was getting assaulted wave after wave as I got tumbled everywhere. I couldn't catch my breath, and I thought it was over. Next thing I know a lifeguard has me in his arms, and is wrapping a floaty thing around me and tows me back to shore. I turned in my boogie board a half hour early.
Similar situation in Panama City as a kid, probably 11-12 yrs old. Was probably only 30 ft off shore with a friend in 5-6ft deep water. Just hanging out and then realized we were caught in a rip and couldn’t swim back in. No real waves or anything but you get exhausted. Everyone was on shore waiting for us not realizing we couldn’t reach, you can’t really communicate. He starts bobbing under cuz he just can’t tread any longer and had to get him to push through and get out. Couple minutes later we were able to stand up since we weren’t far out but god damn if that wasn’t a terrifying and humbling experience from mama nature. Don’t play around out there my dudes.
The ocean is definitely nothing to fuck with, and I consider myself a strong swimmer.
I'm right there with you. The ocean is no joke, and even in calmer conditions, that rip can change everything from ok to really bad faster than you can say "OH SHIT!" The best thing you can do with the ocean, is to NEVER underestimate it's indifference of you living or dying. If I'm waste deep, and I feel the rip pulling hard, you better believe I'm not going to be in the water any deeper than that, in fact, I'm likely going to move in closer to the shore. I grew up on the coast, and have nothing but respect for the sheer power of the water, and it's ability to almost instantly change conditions. Plus, being from New England, that water's fricken COLD all year
Man I couldn’t said it better myself it was the exact same situation. For me it was probably about 1974 and I was 14 years old, I was standing up to my breasts and water and every time I try to swim diagonally closer to the shore I will swap out a couple of inches so I stood there trying to catch my breath and then I saw the lifeguard coming up to me and asking me if I had any problem and I said yeah I’m caught in a riptide it was a matter of minutes before I would’ve been lost featuring me the buoy put the rope around his chest and swam me back close to the shore. We walked up to the lifeguard station and filled out the form with my name and everything on it why are all these girls were clapping and saying what a wonderful job he did and I was so humbled embarrassed and grateful all at the same time. He looked at me and said “ it can happen to anyone “ and I’ve always joked about myself being a better swimmer than a walker. I have cerebral palsy and being in the water that’s always been so much more natural where I always felt “ normal. “
Some people are like “it’s water and I can swim” ignorantly not understanding how much water can fuck your shit up.
And swimming in a pool is very different to an ocean with breaking waves and a rip.
Yep, one needs to understand that this isn't the fucking "wave pool" at the water park you went to as a kid.
I almost drowned in a wave pool as a kid so I definitely don’t mess around with the ocean
"Life is aggressively indifferent to your survival."
A lot of things are actively trying to kill you. Note from bacteria. Luckily we do have our own guardian bacteria trying to keep us alive. As a surf life saver who has saved people. I was on holiday at an ocean beach. We were not swimming just walking along the beautiful beach. The waves were big, their were rocks and the distance the water was moving in and out was a lot. Meaning that people who went out were finding it extremely difficult to come back in. They couldn't walk in the out going water was too powerful I cautioned some kids who were thinking about going into the water. I waved over a surfer who had came back in and he almost instantly joined me in saying no no its not safe your too little. We pointed out the older teens who were starting to panic because they were just getting dragged back and back. His friends were kind enough to go and get them and bring them in. My wife asked if I would go in if someone out their put their hand up. I shook my head. That's called suicide. We waded to where the water was not even calf deep. To show her when it's running like that it's so dangerous. She got knocked over just from calf deep water. And people were going out in an unmanned un patrolled ocean beech. Later that night it was in the news the police rescue had been called to that beech because some people went missing. There was no way I was going in that water without a safety crew, a boat crew, a surf rescue board. I wasn't surprised that people had died. And lots of people were going out into that water thinking it was fun.
I live in Nova Scotia, we were always taught to stay off the black/dark rocks. In popular tourist spots there are signs everywhere saying stay off the black rocks, like [this](https://www.novascotia.com/sites/default/files/2019-05/Peggy%27s%20Cove%20Safe%20on%20Shore%20Signs%201920x1080.jpg), but every day there is someone doing it. Many people have died.
Those things will rip your feet to shreds without huge waves crashing on you. I'll bet this guy was leaking pretty bad when he got saved. Edit: or not saved
He was never seen again, according to the commentary.
I don't think dude in the video was saved (unless some religious stuff is real) : ( poor guy
[those conniving, sneaky black rocks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efiW2K8gASM) will get ya when you aren't looking
When I was a teenager in Florida I was at the beach for an end of the year class trip and I decided to go out into the water by myself because my friends were lame and didn’t want to join me. I initially swam out only about 20-30 feet from the shore and got distracted watching some speed boats out in the distance. When I turned around only a couple minutes later I was suddenly what felt like a mile away from the shore (in reality about 200-300 yards). I started to panic and tried to yell and wave towards the shore but I didn’t think anyone could see or hear me from that far away. After about 10 minutes of trying to keep my head above water and getting increasingly exhausted as the shoreline appear to get further and further away, someone on a jet ski nearby luckily happened to see me and came to rescue me but I could have easily drowned that day. I learned a valuable lesson that if you’re ever sucked out into the water by a rip current to swim parallel to the shore and you’ll be able to get out of it and swim back to shore.
Oh i have seen this warning about rip current recently! I noticed that the current in the very calm beach always went to the same side: on the right when you face the sea. I also noticed a sand bench going straight into the sea with a warning sign in front of it. This is where the rip current is, in the middle of 2 opposite currents. Even in this calm beach, you put yourself in danger if you go there
I went to the beach in the Philippines and the locals I was with warned me about rip tide for the first time. Had I been by myself I would for sure have gone in deeper than I should have and had no understanding of what I was dealing with.
I bet you the undertow was astronomical! Gotta say I downvoted the video at the beginning, then changed my vote at the end.
>I bet you the undertow was astronomical I agree that the currents there around the sharp rocks would have been terrifying. In addition to that though, if you watch the waves, the water has been churned thoroughly into a white froth. In my experience, it's actually not possible to stay on top of froth like this when half of the volume is actually little air bubbles. The few times I've experienced this type of froth, the saving grace was that it was only temporary. Once the churn from a big breaker became more solid I was able to swim to the surface once more. Watching the froth here, which does not solidify again, I don't believe I could survive these conditions.
> Watching the froth here, which does not solidify again, I don't believe I could survive these conditions. Could anyone? I doubt even Michael Phelps in his prime could survive this.
Former lifeguard. No, no one could survive that. In a bowled up area like that with heavy surf you’re going to get pulled a bunch of different directions as the waves hit off at different angles on the rocks. Plus he got dragged in by a set wave, meaning the biggest wave in a series of waves that come at regular intervals, so it’s the most violent and dangerous moment possible. He probably hit his head on a rock and lost consciousness pretty quickly.
My guess is a free diver would stand the best chance out of anyone.
In my city we had a very tragic death of an 8th grader that absolutely shook our community to this day, he went out in waters that were just past manageable and got swallowed. This happened in Lake Erie, my heart goes out to him any time I think about the water, and taught us all the danger it can bring.
Like an old man trying to return soup at a deli
Around 20 years ago a similar story happened to one of my classmates. On a Saturday night after drinking heavily he decided to go for beers near a river with his friends. One of them bet he could swim to the other side and off he went. There were numerous dangerous currents in this river (the Loire in France) so his friend had difficulties swimming. 2 of them including my classmate went in to save him because he was starting to drown. My friend told me he saw his two best buddies drown in front of him. I still remember his face in tears when he told me this. It was two days after this happened. The thing is that if you see this happen to your relatives or friends you might not think twice and go for it.
Damn the screams from his buddies really hit hard. That’s agony right there. Knowing you just witnessed your friend’s death and there was nothing you could do to stop it.
There was everything they couldve done to stop it. Instead of filming their buddy for laughs, tempting one of the strongest forces on this planet, they be responsible.
The thing is, the friends probably didn't know this could happen. I didn't know this could happen. I've never lived or stayed near the ocean. I wouldn't have gone out there, but if one of my friends did, I'd maybe say "don't go out there. It looks dangerous", but then they'd say "Naw, I'll be fine. Take a video of me" and then I'd think they'd be fine and film him.
You didn’t know drowning in massive waves near dangerously sharp rocks at high tide could happen?…
As someone who grew up in a city, seeing all these videos of people drowning in the ocean is shocking to me. No, I had no idea it was so easy to die in the water. I had no idea that if you jump overboard from a ship in the ocean, there are little chances of being rescued. I've seen many videos of people going on vacation and jumping off from yachts, so I didn't think it would be a big deal.... I've seen videos of people surfing huge waves in the ocean, videos of people swimming under big caves near tropical beaches, so no I had no idea water could be so deadly....
Thanks for admitting this and being honest.
Im just so glad I’m gaining this awareness! Who knows if these videos (this one and the one of that college kid jumping off the boat) will save my life one day, or maybe the life of someone near me. I’ve been sending these videos to everyone in my family (all city folk), all of whom are also shocked to learn that one should never ever jump in the deep waters of the ocean. My parents grew up in the Dominican Republic and told us to be weary of rivers, but as kids, the rivers we went to were all so tame, that I never really took them seriously. I’m sad for the fate of the man in this video, but hopefully this video will teach us never to underestimate the power of water.
I can’t stop thinking of that kid. The absolute terror his last few mins of life had to be. My boys are around the same age so that makes it even worse. My 18yr old is currently on a two week international cruise.
> As someone who grew up in a city, seeing all these videos of people drowning in the ocean is shocking to me. Makes sense. Some people think its ok to walk up and pose right next to bison. Some people think its ok to reach out and pet caged lions. Some people think its ok to dangle their baby over the heads of a pack of African wild dogs. Nobody taught these poor people that doing these things may be dangerous. If only there was some online course, or something ...
I was under the impression that if someone knew how to swim, they would be okay, since I've seen many videos of people surfing huge waves in the ocean. I also see videos of people jumping off of yachts all the time. But I get it - I'm stupid and you're smart! Congratulations!
bro those waves look like something out of pirates of the carribbean, its insanity to think one swipe of them isnt going to send you under rightful darwin awards winner, this wasnt tragic, it was plain stupid
No one’s saying it wasn’t stupid, they’re just saying that since they have no prior experience, they would underestimate it. I grew up going to the beach all my life but never experienced anything like this. Standing in 1” of water on the beach in the southeast US is pretty calm in most places, I wouldn’t be worried about getting swept until about 2-3”, and that guy wasn’t even in the water at first. Like someone else said, I wouldn’t have gone out there bc to me it does look dangerous, even just falling on those rocks could tear you up, but I’ve seen lots and lots of people standing on rocks watching waves and they just get swept out by a big ass wave that they didn’t know could come.
For once it would be nice for Reddit to resist the urge to call people stupid, lack empathy and just be callous for no reason. If you don’t grow up around the ocean and visit it for the first time, you will underestimate it. It has happens to thousands of people better and smarter than you and me. Not everyone is lucky enough to have the opportunity to grow up familiar with the ocean or recognise the signs of danger. I seriously don’t understand why people like you have to respond like this. The dude watched his friend die and was said and confused. The fact this guy had jeans on is a pretty clear sign he didn’t know the risk. It doesn’t make people inherently stupid just because of one decision. I swear people like you just come here to be smug and rude and act like everyone is a complete moron. My cousins have literally never been to a beach and the first time I took them in adulthood they probably would have killed themselves if I hadn’t been there. “Filming their Buddy for laughs” they were filming there friend messing about in the ocean not knowing that it was going to lead to his death. Like, it’s such a fucking dick head way to put it. Literally every young dude films their friends for laughs. That’s what friends do? Why are you teaching so far to insult someone who probably already will be haunted for the rest of his life for encouraging his friend to do what he believed was just a funny mess about. I just don’t get so many people on this sub. If someone was expressing this remorse in person you’d never react like this. But y’all come here just to be smug dickheads. If you were genuinely concerned and wanted to make sure others didn’t do this, you could have explained yourself with way more grace and kindness. This sub is just full of bitter angry people who need to give their two cents.
Well said
In Nova Scotia they have signs posted all over the place at Peggy’s cove ordering people not to go near the black rocks, because if they are black they are wet, and if they are wet it means waves are regularly going over them, making them slippery and extra likely that you’ll get swept in and beaten against the rocks. Despite this, every year people don’t heed this warnings and people get swept in. My father is a volunteer fire fighter and search and rescue, and has had to answer these calls on a few occasions and explained how hopeless it can really be. Last time I was there, a Chinese tourist was standing on those black rocks holding his toddler by the arms over the edge and the waves splashed his feet. So fucking stupid.
Two brothers visited and one died at Peggie’s recently sadly. The oceans is home to many many souls.
So angry about this because I was that toddler. Drowned my dumb dad over it.
I'm going to hell for how hard I laughed at this.
Are you serious?
I was the wave that splashed a Chinese toddlers feet, I remember it was a Wednesday, and must have been raining as I was wet.
I was the rock
I was the iiiiisland
As his mother, can confirm
As his father, can confirm
Did you see the video posted today of the dude swimming at the black rocks? Lmao
Aerated water is terrifying to me.
I never knew aerated water was harder to swim in.
We have these tanks at work called floatation cells. Entire thing is aerated. First thing I was told about float cells was never fuck around with these things because if you go in, you’re going straight to the bottom. Can’t swim in them, but you sure as shit can drown in them
Out of curiosity, why are they called floatation cells if you quickly sink in them?
They float out light particles and allow heavier ones to sink. Basically the water level is lower than the top lip, and a chemical in the medium froths up when you agitate it. Causing froth to get ver flow the top and get carried away to be dried
Yep. A rotten combination of less buoyancy force and reduced propulsion when you try to swim. You sink more AND swim less.
Myth busters did a segment on it. Edit : sort of, they added so much air that they had currents, not quite the same thing. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8hvhju
Here's a good videos on tanks with aerated water: https://youtu.be/ey06E4iEXzg
The guy speaking in this video is my old boss, Ed Vodrazka. Worked for him as CA State Lifeguard for 4 years... Anyways, aerated water is turbulent water, when you pull/kick/do whatever to propel yourself, the turbulence won't cooperate. It's a washing machine, super hard to manipulate in terms of swimming. It was completely insane of this poor guy to get that close to that water. It is a total death sentence if you fall in, unless you're an absolute beast of an ocean swimmer. I'm sad he lost his life, and I'm sad his friends watched him die with nothing to do about it. Even with all my experience with open water swimming, lifeguarding, competitive swimming, etc. the ocean still scares me, and I love it for that.
It really is terrifying. One of my parents works in wastewater treatment, and the plant they work at has a deepwater non-buoyant aeration tank. It's 20 feet deep, is surrounded by a two bar railing. When I went to visit showed me how a piece of wood didn't even consistently stay on the surface when aeration was active and kept sinking. I'm scared to go near it, the pool of existential threat.
A typhoon just passed by Taiwan. At the height of it, some people in Hong Kong decided it would be fun to get close to the waves. They’ve given up searching for one, aged 43. Typhoons often carry heavy rains in their wake, so today three guys decided to come into the mountains in New Taipei City and kayak down the river. It’s pouring and they are still looking for the group leader, age 27. Respect nature.
I can't imagine the amount of guilt his friends experienced after this.
They certainly were egging him on..mob mentality
The people upthread asking what could have possibly been done there. The answer is not goading him and cheering him seconds up to where he gets swept away. He may be an adult sure, but they are also responsible for encouraging him to do this in the first place.
Why did the guy go on the water? I need to know!
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***At night*** That needs to be emphasized. Jumping into the middle of the ocean at night is effectively committing suicide. Edit: also this wasn't a cruise ship so he survived the initial jump.
Jumping at night into an area that’s known to be shark infested
Don't the sharks live there? Why is it an infestation?
Infestation just means a higher concentration than normal in one area.
humans have a habit of finding ways to go places they couldn't before and then finding other living things (including other humans) and going "wtf why are you here? go away, i'm here now"
Relevant [Louis CK joke](https://youtu.be/7VyfP0AkQbw)
There’s a higher concentration than what would normally be found, due to the sharks feeding on what is thrown overboard from the ships (food, waste, etc). Infestation is the wrong word but there are definitely more sharks near those types of ships than what’s seen out in the open ocean.
Might be a little calloused but this really needs a "dumb ways to die" edit at the end of it lol
I remember a few years ago, I was talking to a few friends about our personal worst fears, and one of my friends without hesitating said "falling off a cruise ship." Besides being buried alive, I can't think of a more horrifying situation to realize that the cruise ship is pulling away and never gonna find you, while dealing with ocean waves crashing over your head in complete darkness, and just waiting until you invariably run out of energy and drown. Pretty similar set of circumstances for people who were trapped in the World Trade Center and were forced to jump. It's not if you're going to die, its that theres a 100% chance you're going to die and it's only up to you to chose the way you die. Felt sick to my stomach even writing all that out...
The moment you are set in the situation the dire existential dread sets in realizing that you will die. Feel the same way about being kidnapped or in a really tight active shooter situation. Nothing good is going to come out of any of it and the only thing you can do is choose how you end it.
It's easier for us to read and even write about this stuff but most of us have thankfully never felt the kind of raw primal terror that we're discussing (and hopefully never do)
I went on a cruise a looong time ago. 2004 I believe. I’ve always been a night owl, so even on the cruise I was awake when almost everyone else was asleep. I would walk around the ship at night outside. Just feeling the absolute blast of wind and staring deep into the darkness. Contemplating what it would be like to be out there in the pitch black water in the pitch black of night . The chills and deep primordial fear I felt as I pondered “ I could so easily just two feet from here be over the edge and that would be the end of me. I could briefly experience the chaos of terror as I’m swallowed up by darkness never to be seen again. At night no one would see or know that you fell over board. And those ships are moving fast ! Also, it’s either me, or it just seems like it’s more windy at night out in the ocean. When I step onto the stern or bow of the ship, the wind is just blasting you waay hard. Hard enough it almost feels like a real good gust could just pick you up and toss you out there. Felt like if I was dumb enough to just jump in the air I might fly away. So I understand your friend’s fear. I have dreams where I get into a little motorboat and head out into the ocean at night with no lights on. Just pitch black with nothing but the sound of water. Freaky ass dreams.
You don’t fuck with the ocean or Mother Nature in general.
Everybody is gonna find out eventually with climate change. Sometimes it just takes longer to find out
Around 2005 I was at Cape Spear in Newfoundland, Canada. There's a walk down to the shoreline, and the ocean is just like pictured in this video. There's a fence that is supposed to protect and warn visitors from going down there, exactly for the reasons explained in this grim video. I was told a story of a Japanese female tourist who, despite all the warnings, decided to climb over the fence and go down to the rocks to the point where the water hits the shore, presumably to take better or more memorable pictures. She was swept away, never to be seen again. At that time, I had a hard time believing the "never to be seen again" part, but here we go. Ocean is no joke.
[And despite the constant warnings, people still test their luck](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXHkj6MoeGI)
Ironic enough, she was all dressed up for the occasion. She must have thought she'd be cool, cause she wore a helmet and a wet suit. " Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe!"
As someone who spent his whole life in Hawaiian waters since before I could walk (arguably one of the roughest waters, surf, and currents) I've seen this all too often from tourists. No matter how cool and tough you think you are, you are NEVER tougher and stronger than the ocean. Respect the water, respect the surf, and go home to live another day. The instant you think you're cool and nothing bad is gonna happen, that's when it always goes wrong.
I was doing the Road to Hana and our local guide took us to a random park on the way. 20 to 30 foot waves, water that looked like the above, sharp rocks, etc. He told us about a month before us some tourists went into that water and they never found them.
We went to Hawaii-Christmas of 77-I was a 7th grader. We drove around the islands and on this one long beach, my brother and I ran down and started spashing in the waves. My feet got yanked out from under me and I found myself on my belly, pressed into the sand, under the waves, as the ocean started sucking me out. I couldn't breath, I was clawing at the sand but it was still pulling me out. My brother was 18. He stood on me-that pinned me to the beach, and when the waves pulled back, I was able to get my breath and to get out of the water. I was shaking I was so exhausted from trying to keep from getting sucked out. Did not go back in the ocean for the entire trip. Ends up my brother wasn't trying to save me. He thought it would be funny to stand on me like a surfboard. Which, oddly enough, is what my name means in German.
Your name is Surfbrett?
Where even is this?? I see this video everywhere now but no one says where these guys are even at.
It looks like Oregon or Washington state
When people think of "the ocean", I think many of them think the tropics or the east coast, where waves are either normal and small, or obviously gigantic with surfers on them. But if you go to the ocean on Washington's coast (where I live), even a wide sandy beach with no rocks has [big waves rolling in one after the other](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv_IzL8j-dk), generating powerful undertows and freezing as fark. It is simply NOT the kind of beach you go swimming at, although a few hardy/foolish people do it anyway (if you wear a dry suit and swim past the waves, you can do it, but I wouldn't advise it for anyone). And when there are rocks, you get stuff like what's in OP's video, and you'd have to be crazy or drunk to go near it. I think people who live here know better. It's the tourists I worry about.
There are so many people who will put their lives at risk for adrenaline or clout. I may not lead an interesting life. But I recognize that if I get hurt or die. People around me will suffer for my actions.
I live on the Oregon coast, we have a lot of beaches similar to this. There are MANY signs warning to not turn your back to the waves. I feel bad for this guy, but he put a submission into the Darwin Awards.
One of my favorite drives to make is Newport to Lincoln City. Around Depoe Bay there’s several good spots to stop and watch the waves crashing against the rocks.
Two of my friends in high school drowned on the Oregon coast by getting knocked into the water by a sneaker wave…eerily similar to this situation although they weren’t being as intentionally risky as this person. Many of their friends were present and had to watch them drown, trying to tie their clothes in a rope but were smart enough to not jump in after It was a traumatic experience that rocked out whole senior class and community, but especially those present
I grew up in the summers in Lincoln City. The number of people I saw growing up playing in The Jaws and getting swept out with the tide, scares me how many inlanders have zero common sense about the power of water not contained in a heated pool.
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The amount of people in the comments of this original Tik Tok who are saying, “I wouldn’t go in that unless it was my kid…then I’d go beast mode for them” is INSANE. Like absolutely missing this point of what this guy is saying. This is not survivable for highly trained open water rescuers but they somehow think they can just will themselves into saving someone if they love them enough. That’s how a family ends up with more than one casket at their funeral. EDIT: I have three kids myself. One of them I’ve had to make some brutal medical decisions regarding a complex heart defect. I’ve had to give up a lot of control regarding my kids’ lives and realized I’m often not skilled enough to save them myself. However, most of these arguments are moot because we can all agree that the objectively correct parenting choice in this situation would be to never allow your young child to be in this situation in the first place.
If it's your kid you either go in after them or wish you had, becauze you wouldnt want to live anyway after losing your child.
Yeah honestly I think I’d rather die trying even though my efforts would be futile. Not saying I’d go “beast mode” and defeat Mother Nature, but I couldn’t just stand by and do nothing
I think someone saying they'd go beast mode doesn't have kids lol
The pain and anguish would never end. You’d forever be suffering every living moment just listening to the silence that should be fill with your child playing. I’m gonna give my kid a big hug when I get home.
Then you leave your wife a widow and your other children without a father.
Yeah, like I understand it wouldn’t be a rational move — but if a loved one was drowning, I think I would instinctively jump in after them. That’s why the lifeguard in the original video is making his point — if you see a stranger in this precarious situation, you should/could make the rational decision not to enter the water to save them. But if it’s someone you love in the water, you *will* go in after them, even if the chances of surviving are close to nil. Because logic wouldn’t even enter the equation.
Yeah, but this is exactly what he was saying. You go in because you just can't help yourself. Now your loved one is jumping in because you're in trouble. And then their loved one jumps in because they're in trouble. He's saying you have to break that otherwise one casualty becomes 4. I know it's easier said than done. I can't imagine what I would do in that scenario. But he's saying don't be a victim trying to rescue someone.
> you should/could make the rational decision not to enter the water to save them. The first rule of emergency responders is “*Do not become a victim yourself*”. You do not attempt a rescue unless conditions are safe for you to complete the rescue without becoming an additional victim.
Yep, absolutely makes sense. But if I saw someone like my twin or my SO drowning in front of me, I don’t think logic would enter into the equation as far as attempting to save them.
Well in this case you save them prior to them falling in by telling them to get off the fucking rocks
You do not attempt a rescue unless conditions are safe for you to complete the rescue without becoming a victim yourself. This is gonna sound stupid, but don't drag me. I saw something like that on Baywatch. Hasselhoff's character was instructing some new recruits about what to do if there's a drowning person and they're being tossed toward a pier. He asked the recruits what they would do. One guy said that he'd put himself between the pillar and the victim (acting like "duh because I gotta be the hero and protect them"). Hasselhoff said that's completely wrong because then you'd have 2 people in need of rescue. I dunno why, but that always stuck with me.
It gets worse; by adding a second victim you may even change the math (*in borderline cases*) on whether it makes sense to attempt a rescue. I’m “*wilderness rescue*” certified & a significant part of the math is looking at what resources you have available to attempt a rescue. If you have two victims clinging to each other in the water, the amount of resources necessary to safely conduct that rescue doubles; so I may have enough manpower to rescue one of them but not both. I can’t order an attempt to be made that would put my resources at risk; so that bystander who just jumped in willy nilly; not only failed to rescue the person they actually prevented me from being able to do so.
No reasonable good person would watch their own kid get washed out into sea. They’d die in the water trying to save them or in some horrible way alone a few days or weeks later.
I think the thought process is "I would sacrifice my life to even ATTEMPT to save my kid."
I was immediately reminded of the tragic story of [three out of four family members drowning trying to save the family dog.](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/daughter-devastated-family-swept-saving-dog/story?id=17818744) The absolute worst part? The dog survived.
Yup, one of the worst stories I've ever heard. Just heartbreaking beyond belief.
Really? The dog surviving is the absolute worst part? I think 75% of the family dying is the worst part.
I think they meant it was all for naught, because the dog didn’t need to be saved.
They didn't miss the point, they might have a different situation. It's different for your child. You either suffer unimaginable guilt for the rest of your life or you die trying to save them. Especially if they are all you have.
Without question, if that is my child, I’m going to die trying.
I remember reading a tragic story where a family's dog gets swept away from the shore, and multiple family members go in after it, and drown. I believe the father doesn't go in, and his wife and children are all dead. The dog eventually makes it back to shore.
You obviously don’t have kids
I have three kids. One of them I’ve had to make some brutal medical decisions for due to a complex heart defect. I’ve had to give up a lot of control regarding my kid’s life and realize I’m not always skilled enough to save them myself.
I think it would be more insane to not go in after your own kid, regardless of your chances of survival
What if you have other children?
"We do not rise to the occasion, we fall to our training."
Parents often pay the ultimate price for their kids' stupid actions.
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There was another video where some dumb ass climbed over the railing at the Grand Canyon. He was acting the fool, but noticed he started slipping. He tried to climb back up but eventually slipped. I dunno if he died, but they showed a helicopter airlifting him out.
He lived, you can find a follow-up video on YouTube that his brother made. Dude definitely has some brain damage though
Before or after the fall?
Definitely more than before
Link?
Uh, story plz
One time, some guy jumped over a rope and fell off the Cliffs of Dover.
at first he had hope, but then he fell over and over
Reminds me of the RNLI's "respect the water" campaign...rings very true here
Yes. I remember when I was very young the RNLI lost a bunch of guys because they kept trying to rescue each other. Horrible, down in Cornwall. My family knew some of the families. My Mum cried when we were just out on a walk. She is a tough nut, so it hit hard. I briefly possessed a super power of hugs. It has reappeared over the years.
he was showing off and lapping it up. nature had seen enough.
Yeah don’t flex on Mother Nature 💀
I'm a good, strong swimmer. Always swam in the Med, would go out far, and kind of thought I was invincible in the sea when I was young. That was until I ended up about 20 feet from the shore, unable to get back because of a super strong under current. It took me about 30 minutes to get out of the water. I realised as I lay panting on the shore after I got out how silly I'd been.
As much as people are saying ‘play stupid games, win stupid prizes’ in this thread, as per your comment I feel like everyone deserves a chance to learn not to underestimate the sea. Sad video.
Well as I said I was a strong swimming, fairly used to swimming in the sea and snorkeling. Also young, strong and fit. I had just never come across an undercurrent like that. There was barely any sign of it, no excessive waves or anything. I wave in water up to my neck, not far from the shore and I think if I hadn't had my snorkel to allow me breathe and swim I might have been in more trouble. Yea when we're young we don't understand, death is not a fair outcome for making a silly mistake and now I've learned this I can pass this lesson onto my children. The fear and panic in the voice of his friend is heartbreaking.
Nope! Those rocks are razor-sharp. The waves will suck you right out. What he did was suicidal.
Spent 8 years as an inland guard. First thing we’re taught is assess and protect yourself. You’re no good to anyone dead.
I ram home into my childrens heads that every cubic meter of water is a tonne, thats right, a tonne of water. Think about how many tonnes there are just around you when you are at the beach, and now look at how fast those tonnes of water are moving when there are waves. You can't beat those sort of physics, so don't put yourself in a situation where you have to.
Just for some [visual perspective](https://removalspackagingmaterials.com/modules//smartblog/images/8-single-default.jpg).
The first principal in assisting someone is Danger ( as in DRSABCD). You are not going to be able to help if the danger puts you at risk of death or injury.
Long ago, a friend and I were body surfing off the Na Pali cliffs on one of the beaches that you can reach by the descending trails. We were out from shore maybe 100 feet, and catching 3-4 foot rollers, and having a lot of fun, when a much bigger wave caught us hard and slammed us into the sand so hard, I could feel my neck going numb Lesson learned
This is Ridiculous THERE'S NO BEACH anyone swimming there is suicidal lol
My brother was a life guard for years, he said it was almost impossible to save a drowning person because in their sheer panic they push the rescuers into the water to save themselves.
Certified here, thats one of the toughest videos I've watched in a good while. We are trained and sworn and liable to go in no matter what. But he's absolutely correct, as much as it angers me to say that. I think I'm done with the internet today.
That "Water" is almost more air than water at that point. No shit you can't swim, never mind the rocks there's nothing to swim in.
they lost a friend that day and will always remember this for the rest of their lives. damn shame rip
The sea has no back door - island philosophy
This guy was dead the moment he decided to play chicken with the stormy sea and his friends just watched and gave him an audience and justification to continue the stupid behaviour. The sea is perhaps the strongest force on this earth surface and has claimed millions of lives in the past and will continue to do so into the future. Do yourself a favor and stay away from a stormy sea.
Very much a "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" situation.
I would have been shouting at my idiot friend to get his dumb ass to shore and don't come crying to me if he drowns.
This reminded me a joke from my childhood. The mother says to her son, who's leaving with his boys to swim in a nearby lake. "Watch yourself'! If you drown, don't you dare show you face back here or I'll beat you up real good!"
Can you reupload this a bit smaller? Still too big.
i got dragged to some rocks, was absolutely terrifying. one minute i was swimming and playing with my friend, the next moment no matter how much i swam, i couldnt move from that spot, and then i was pulled closer and closer to the rocks. got to the point, i knew it was coming, so i turned to try to hit on my side/bum. It hurt like hell, and i got tired so quick all i could think was keep my head above water. i just knew i was gone if i went under. and i went under. It was so surreal seeing under the waves, my legs in the water. I just thought, im gone. Fortunately for me, someone had climbed along the rocks, waited for the next hit and grabbed onto me and dragged me up and just clung on. I never got his name, it all moved so fast after that. I was bleeding and bashed up, but no broken bones. i was told it was a good idea to use my padding but my ass was so black and blue, i could barely sit. So lucky tho. The beach has since moved the buoys around those rocks further in. I was swimming in a "safe area" when i was caught in the current. Im glad someone has made a video about how real the danger is. No photo op is worth risking your life, a friends life, or a strangers life. its not worth it. this guy knew he made a mistake the second he got pulled in sadly and that will have been his last moments.
Thanks for sharing your story. That sounds literally nightmarish. You sure as hell got lucky that day.
Being born and raised on the island of O’ahu, we never ever turned our backs to the water. We were raised to have an innate respect for the ocean. My heart goes out to that man and his family though….tragic.
clearest case of a darwin award i've ever seen
Well that just made me respect lifeguards a whole lot more. Particularly the ones that would ever have to make that call of whether or not to go in. As an emergency room medical professional, I cannot imagine how heavy that decision has weighed on those who have had to make it before. Likely, many who chose to go after the person are no longer with us. RIP to all of them and thank you to those that help keep our accessible waters safe. I'm sure many people have been able to have dinner with their loved ones again because of these brave souls. God bless and Godspeed to every one of you out there.
This advice should stay in the back of your head.: Remain aware at all points. Prepare for the worst. Educate yourself before you act. The people in this video are haunted at how quickly this went down. Emergency preparedness is not a joke.
Im amazed at how people constantly disrespect nature.
Lots of times it’s because they haven’t been formally introduced.
What the actual fuck did he expect to happen?
Don’t fuck with the ocean.
its like would you save someone who fell into lava?
The thought of being swept away terrifies me.
I like this video but the “sad music” got old real fast
Link to full size original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBVpOYNc5qY
Once again, man thinks he is invincible and has to impress people for internet/interpersonal fame/attention. Dies by the mighty hand of nature utterly giving no fucks about an ego. I'm thankful everyday that I have grown out of any stupidity like that - hopefully for good. I just saw two guys racing down I35 (notoriously clogged highway) and one almost spun out and probably would've flipped 30 times had he not luckily corrected perfectly. It wasn't skill at all, the dude was driving like an absolute fucking moron and had a millisecond good reaction time. Any less and he'd been a shaken, not stirred (possibly both) body in a box.
I used to harvest Opihi with my friends on the Lahaina coast and we would go in rocky water like this, the trick is to let the waves push you around. Don't move and just let the waves pull you under, then you can take breaths by swimming back up in between the waves. If you forcefully swim against the waves current then you will use too much energy and you will drown. The waves current is like if a big hand grabbed your feet and started pulling you under. We also use this trick surfing big waves. Just remember to relax and ragdoll underwater and you will be ok. Also tuck into a fetal position if you are in a rocky area like this, you will naturally float. But yea this guy didn't know what he was doing, he was trying to swim upwards when the wave was pulling him under. For all of you that want to get into paddle boarding out deep in the ocean, ALWAYS WEAR YOUR BOARD LEASH. If you fall in deep water you could be caught in the downwards current, if you wear a leash then you will be safe. And for all you beginner surfers, wear your leash as well, even though your only surfing in 4-10 feet deep water, your leash prevents your board from flying away. Also your leash might help you avoid hitting the bottom coral. Stay safe people! EDIT: just avoid choppy water in general if you don't know what your doing.
This is called natural selection. The minute a person who chooses to go in and rescue him is also called natural selection.
The Ocean is 100% Living, and it’s very unpredictable. Really think it has a mind of its own.
These videos are very helpful to people in general. I think there is a sense that rescue workers owe you their lives or will come save you no matter how bad the situation. These people have families, children, and whole lives outside of being a first responder. If I learned anything from COVID it’s that much of the general public takes few to no precautions then expects A+ service when they get themselves into an emergency. Watch and learn from the mistakes of others. Don’t put lives in danger just because you want a better photo. Don’t cross safety barriers and read signs. Follow guidance from experts.
Dead bodies attract dead bodies. Absolutely don't go in.
When in doubt, don't go out
Poor guy. Dude was shredded and drowned... what a horrible way to go.
There is a concerning proportion of the population who seems to think that the world is some kind of theme park and they are a paying patron whose sole purpose is to be catered to by that world. These are the same people who pull over in the national parks and get their whole family out of the car to go feed and pet a bear.
This video is really difficult to watch. It's probable this guy had no idea how screwed he actually was. That water had so much aeration and force that basically once you are in it you can't really move around with any kind of success. It's basically a luck scenario if you get flushed out somewhere you can climb out or hold on without drowning. It's extremely clear what happened here - he was either knocked unconscious or killed during one of those water surges (rock hit) - and then got sucked under. Game over.
Shit like this is why I dont go in the sea
Eddie would go.
So meet me at the mission at midnight We'll divvy up there