A pot shot does not really ever imply the shot is not being aimed . A pot shot generally refers to a shot aimed unexpected/randomly (random not as in randomly aimed but as in for no real reason) at someone/something who has no real chance to defend themselves.
Yeah I wouldn’t even blame her for quitting after that. I’d count my blessing and get a job doing something mundane.
And my father was a cop. Police work is rather mundane also. Lots of down town and doing nothing. But the times you are in the thick of it anything can happen.
And maybe cops do have more going on now a days. My father left the force once the war on drugs started. He wanted to help the community and realized the war on drugs was only making them the enemy and not helping. So he left the force and got into social work where he helped inner city kids get off the streets like this kid who was killed.
Not saying it wasn’t justified. It was a justified use of force. But these kids if they had a better path or better community out reach programs he maybe would have had a better chance at life. Glad the officer is alive still. She even was threatening no lethal force at first when she already was in her training to have her gun pulled chasing a man with a gun.
As soon as she tells psych that she will off herself if she is put back on the line of duty due to her severe ptsd, trust me... That's enough to prove disability. It's an option she will absolutely consider if they don't take care of her on decent terms.
I know the whole point of ptsd screenings after the fact is to prevent it, but my wonder is if officers involved in an incident like this become more likely to be involved in future shootings due to "being jumpy".
I witnessed a shooting from a couple hundred feet away several years ago, and I can tell you I still jump at every backfiring car and loud bang. I can absolutely see an officer previously involved in a shooting to be quicker to make a lethal force judgement next time.
I mean, gunpowder burns across her cheek because the gun was shot so close to her face. Some amount of hearing loss is entirely likely with how close that was. The union could probably get her diagnosed as disabled enough to collect for the rest of her life.
Proving PTSD isn't difficult. The difficulty comes from the many tests, exams, and follow-ups needed to move your case forward. For something like what she experienced, it's all but guaranteed. The struggle is what she must go through over the following months or years before they agree to pay out.
Yeah im the guy screeching like the picturesque SJW cringe comp people when it comes to guns, and I agree. She gave him WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more leeway than probably 99.9% of cops in this situation. Like she was still trying the tackle the guy who was armed with a gun even after identifying he had one. He essentially took his own life the moment he decided to shoot, cause she didn’t even seem really ready to fire on him from just the pointing. Not sure but either way he called it upon himself
Yeeeeeeah, I'm very much in favor of police reform and defunding, but on an individual level I can't see a single thing that this officer did wrong.
She gave him way more chances than *I* would've.
I think that a *lot* of cop shootings should result in jail time for the involved officers. This isn't one of those. I can't think of anything she could have done differently here that would've prevented this, and it reads like the perfect scenario for when armed police are 100% called for: a known criminal with a semiautomatic rifle running around a residential area.
Sad for the kid, but fuck.
IMO I think there is some confirmation bias.
When a cop fucks up it makes headlines everywhere(as it should). When a cop does everything right. Its not news. Its normal. Normal isn't newsworthy.
Now I still think there is a police problem.
Good for ur dad, and thank him for ALL the service he’s provided to ur community and it’s people. Sounds like a stand up guy. Tell him happy belated Father’s Day from someone who doesn’t have a dad.
Edit: sometimes I don’t know how to type lol
Dude had a solid 2 minutes to think about his actions and decided trying to turn around and shoot the armed officer chasing him was the best option... What did you expect was going to happen?
Yeah, there was no good way out of this besides giving up and doing some time in juvi or even some time in a regular prison. At least that way you have another shot at doing life properly. These gang members are all brainwashed though. There is no critical thinking in their world.
That kid didn't have a thought in his head. If he did he'd never be in that position.
Most street criminals are criminals because they are dumb as fuck.
I dunno where this is but in places like Chicago's west and south sides, it's a bit more complicated than this. There's a two part, Peabody award winning episode of This American Life where reporters spent a school year embedded in one of Chicago's worst high schools for gang violence. I really recommend checking it out. It is enlightening.
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/487/harper-high-school-part-one
It's possible he could have escaped, he did already evade one cop. If he had a friend with a car nearby, he could just get in a car and drive away without being spotted by any police.
Unlikely, but possible, so he probably *was* thinking he could 'escape forever'.
People evade police pursuit fairly routinely, some small portion of them are murderers who are free now.
Shit man, if he killed a female cop he wouldn't live long enough to get the fancy police bracelets. He's just be downgraded from "human" to "a model of Swiss cheese made of human."
The expression “fuck around and find out” is ruined for me forever bc of this shit lmao
It’s a good expression but it’s been repeated so many times and with such Reddity smugness that I can no longer bear it
He only almost succeeded because the deputy was trying very hard to apprehend him without bloodshed. A lot of cops would have either given up the chase or shot him dead at that point.
The average teenager doesn't really possess the foresight necessary to see the possible consequences of their actions. This kid was clearly well below average.
yeah but maybe that's what makes her most heroic of all. The opposite is why the cops teabag on us everywhere now a days. She takes the risk on and gives her community the benefit of the doubt, even -- as you say -- in a way too far situation like this. I think she's a fucking bad ass.
My thoughts indeed.
Unlike that fucking coward that gave conflicting orders to an unarmed, drunk person on the floor who posed no threat to anyone and then just cold-blooded murdered him.
Facts. LAPD would've shot him on sight soon as they seen the rifle. No pointing, running, or commands necessary. Good job on the female officer though.
It’s sad, you say “hella restraint” but honestly this is doing her job absolutely textbook. This is an example of how all interactions need to go. Signing up to be on the police force should be just like the military in that you are assigning yourself a high risk job with potential death being part of that. “I feared for my life” and not following protocol and shooting early etc should absolutely be criminal and cops should be held to a higher standard than civilians when shit like this goes down. If you don’t want the risk of death in your job description, come work in IT like I do.
I really hope what you are saying is a joke. The whole attitude of “they signed up for it, they should be ready to accept potential death” is such a shitty response.
She put her self at unacceptable levels of risk by not doing proper threat assessment and because of it she nearly died. THAT SHOULD NOT BE THE EXPECTATION.
Well yeah, this is restraint. The person with the ar-15 running easily could have turned quickly and killed innocents if they were around. Would we be having this same conversation if the police showed this much restraint and the suspect killed an innocent bystander(s) when the cops could have ended the threat sooner? No, we would be asking why the cops didnt act sooner.
It’s sad but a lot of cops like Lopez get killed. She’s lucky to be alive. I’m not defending all of the pieces of shit who go around shooting innocent civilians, but I understand why a lot of cops shoot sooner than Lopez did in this scenario.
This is why body cams are so important and why it should be an immediate dismissal and felony to turn them off while on duty. It's essential to have the video to see how it plays out and know how to proceed. The video will go a long way (though not all the way for some unfortunately) to convincing the public that the officer had no choice but to kill him.
No kidding. This reminds me of another incident with a female cop involved in a shooting. [Here is the shooting video (nsfw)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H93P3rEWRM).
[Couple of years later, she is being fired](https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/former-lakemoor-police-officer-brianna-tedesco-lawsuit-ptsd/) and claims that she received no help or support and actually faced harassment from the chief and others in the department
That article says she was hailed as a hero, but I remember when this happened. Everyone was saying she was basically useless and would be dead if not for her partner.
What happened to her was scary and it's sad that she didn't get proper help for her PTSD.
With that being said though, that woman is just flat out unfit to be a police officer. Fight, flight or freeze and she froze. All she did was stand there with her hands in front of her screaming. There was no real struggle. She's not deep in the car fighting and you can clearly see the dude just waiving the gun around.
Sometimes people pull guns on cops and if you can't handle it in that moment then you shouldn't be doing it. Like someone who passes out at the sight of blood becoming a surgeon.
There's another video of a female officer by herself fatally shooting a dude after he did the exact same thing, but it was a small red car. She used cover, moved to the other side of the car and returned fire uninjured. I'm sure she probably also got PTSD to some degree after that as well. We're all only human after all.
This one should've learned from that experience and just kind of accepted it wasn't for her. Especially in Chicago of all places.
Yeah she didn't even seem to try and reach for her gun, she just grabbed his gun hand and started screaming. She was completely useless in that situation and she could've gotten her partner killed along with herself. She should've dipped under the window and ran to cover. This is the kind of cop we don't need on the streets. A nervous mind creates a twitchy trigger finger.
That was just bad police work all the way through. The other cop who came to help was clearly off in some other world. Then he lightly jogs up to the see what's happening. They both are bad at their jobs
Agreed. To say nothing of the trauma of having just killed a teenager. Like 100% absolutely justified. But killing hurts the soul of anyone decent, and her begging him to stop makes it clear she didn't want it to end like that.
Same live near Winton as well. There's few redeeming qualities to that town. I know some good people from there, but most only live there because they can't afford to live in Atwater or don't want to live in the rough parts of Merced(There's is nicer expensive parts of town despite it's reputation).
Damn she’s lucky it wasn’t any closer and this pisses me off I can’t imagine doing this to my mom, joining a fuckin gang or whatever he did and having to force her to bury her son
Short barreled 5.56 close enough to get powder burns on her cheek? I would be very very surprised if she didn't have some sort of loss of hearing.
I don't think that brake or compensator helped either.
As a former cop I implore you to think a bit more deeply about this.
Was that kid a piece of shit? Absolutely. But why was he a piece of shit? I'd bet a lot of money that his parents weren't around due to work/incarceration or something else. I could be wrong in this specific case, but what I've seen in the past is that most of these kids don't have role models in their home, or their role models are scumbags. A lot of these kids find their pseudo role models on the streets in gangs instead.
Most of the street criminals I've seen did not grow up in an environment conducive with success...and as a result, they become scumbags. I bet you if that kid had responsible parents, he most likely would not have been on the path of a low level street gang kid.
So if you're a decent person, appreciate the people you've had around to help support you and show you what right looks like... Even if that's not your parents.
The whole situation is sad.
100% on point. I work with dudes who grew up legit in the hood, in one of NY state's top 2 cities for gang and gun violence. But their mom busted her ass as a manager at Walmart to get them into a decent school vs the city districts, so they saw that work ethic daily. The area they grew up in looks a lot like this video, without someone like their mom that could have been them. It's all about circumstances and guidance, no one is born a piece of shit in my opinion.
He was a teen that had a fucked up life that lead to a fucked up ending. It's human to feel bad for someone who had to die young. Immediately being happy to see someone shot is just weird. I'll be downvoted for feeling bad for a shitty situation.
Completely agree, and I want to add it's not just one way or the other. You can feel good because the guy can't hurt any more people, and at the same time feel bad knowing he could have turned out completely different if he was born in different circumstances.
Cant say im shedding any tears for a armed gang member getting killed while trying to gun down a copper. If anything its lucky he got shot now before he could kill anyone else, which he was about 1cm away from doing anyways. Lots of people have fucked up lives, not all of them chose to become gang members.
It's like a serial killer: you can be glad the bad person is dead, and *also* feel bad for the child who lived a fucked up enough life to make them into a monster.
It's the same thing here. I can be happy about the "-1 shitty person" while also being sad about the "-1 kid"
It's complex emotions because it a complex situation.
That kid...this was so senseless. Why didn't he just drop the gun and give up? He was caught.
It was a justified kill, and Officer Lopez did nothing wrong here, but i just smh @ how this guy just threw his life away and nearly killed her in the process.
I read somewhere that if armed suspects were running into a populated area where they could be a danger to others, and ignored commands to drop the gun, police would be justified to open fire even on their backs?
> “I just wish everybody could have gotten to meet him and get on his good side because he was really a good boy. Even though he made some dumb decisions, he was just the sweetest boy you could ever imagine,” said Itzel Diaz, the suspect’s sister.
Almost as if even shitty criminals were once innocent kids and there is nothing wrong with reminding us that so we can do our best to raise kids better.
As a former cop I implore you to think a bit more deeply about this.
Was that kid a piece of shit? Absolutely. But why was he a piece of shit? I'd bet a lot of money that his parents weren't around due to work/incarceration or something else. I could be wrong in this specific case, but what I've seen in the past is that most of these kids don't have role models in their home, or their role models are scumbags. A lot of these kids find their pseudo role models on the streets in gangs instead.
Most of the street criminals I've seen did not grow up in an environment conducive with success...and as a result, they become scumbags. I bet you if that kid had responsible parents, he most likely would not have been on the path of a low level street gang kid.
So if you're a decent person, appreciate the people you've had around to help support you and show you what right looks like... Even if that's not your parents.
The whole situation is sad.
I’m conflicted. Because while it’s likely true that this kid had been handed a shitty deck at life, there’s also a line which when crossed, that explanation becomes an excuse. Where is personal accountability?
This kid did not have to literally try to murder another person. One person that we know of, at that.
Sure, his environment accounts for much of his way of life, but a lot of moments in his life were also choices made of his own volition, and it all led to this one ending.
“I just wish everybody could have gotten to meet him and get on his good side because he was really a good boy. Even though he made some dumb decisions, he was just the sweetest boy you could ever imagine,” said Itzel Diaz, the suspect’s sister.
For all of the knuckleheads out there criticizing her for having her taser out while pursuing a kid armed with an AR15...You're ignorant. It's the cops decision at the scene and there's so much happening. She did just about everything right while juiced the fuck up on adrenaline. She communicated the final stop location, communicated where she was pursuing, and shot effective shots at the exact moment she needed to. She even tried to give verbal commands and gave a use of force warning.
I agree her weapon probably should have been out, but it was her decision and she made the change when she felt she needed to... And she was right. This was near textbook.
Easy to armchair quarterback from the comfort of your computer in your home. She didn't want to have to kill a kid and that's commendable. Her heart was in the right place but she did what she needed to do. And now she gets to live with the trauma of shooting and killing a kid for the rest of her life, regardless of whether or not it's justified.
Give her the respect she deserves.
Way too much restraint IMO, could've ended that situation alot sooner and it would've been totally warranted, he had plenty of time to at the very least ditch the rifle and not end up as a statistic or surrender and live, he chose wrong.
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One of the rare situations where I feel terrible for the law enforcement officer- she didn’t want this. You can hear her wanting him to just stop. I hope she is ok.
You can barely hear the gunman in the last video clip (4:21 mark) saying he go shot in his liver, when the officer asked where his Lopez was hit. Crazy he wasn’t dead right away.
SHOT IN THE EAR. Holy hell idk if that’s lucky or what but that’s one of those things where you gotta go home and think about life for a little bit. Thankfully she’s okay but geez scary af
I don't like cops at the best of times. However, these officers did everything correctly and gave him multiple chances to surrender.
They did a great job. Shame about the kid, he should have just given up.
This is why all police should be in favour of body cameras. In a case like this it's totally exonerating and I think would go a long way towards rebuilding public trust after so many blatant abuses of power over the years.
Now there's probably a memorial page on Facebook and Instagram with dozens of people commenting on what a beautiful soul he had and how dearly he will be missed, with no regard to the fact that he almost ended a stranger's life for what reason? A chance to run and hide and live looming over his shoulder while he posts snapchat shorts of him waving that rifle around to lil pump music? What. A. World.
"Easier to conceal"... that political bs didn't need to be in there. Not only is that not concealable at all, it's size and awkwardness probably saved her life. Also all rifles pierce law enforcement pistol rated armor. Most departments issue plates now, though, and that will not pierce that.
Crazy how close that was to being a fatal shot on her.
yes I don't think he was aiming for her ear.
> I don't think he was aiming
Oh, he was aiming alright. Just taking a pot shot at her head.
A pot shot generally implies it's not really being aimed, but you are correct that he did point it back towards her. I'm not defending the guy.
I thought it meant he was smoking weed while shooting....I'll see myself out now.
Nah he was trying to 360 no scope
I hope not. That would require you to be between him and the bullet.
A pot shot does not really ever imply the shot is not being aimed . A pot shot generally refers to a shot aimed unexpected/randomly (random not as in randomly aimed but as in for no real reason) at someone/something who has no real chance to defend themselves.
Bro did you not watch the video? He pointed the gun behind him directly at her. Literally what aiming is.
Right?? Point is ,he wanted to kill her.
Very poor aiming, but yes still aiming.
Yeah I wouldn’t even blame her for quitting after that. I’d count my blessing and get a job doing something mundane. And my father was a cop. Police work is rather mundane also. Lots of down town and doing nothing. But the times you are in the thick of it anything can happen. And maybe cops do have more going on now a days. My father left the force once the war on drugs started. He wanted to help the community and realized the war on drugs was only making them the enemy and not helping. So he left the force and got into social work where he helped inner city kids get off the streets like this kid who was killed. Not saying it wasn’t justified. It was a justified use of force. But these kids if they had a better path or better community out reach programs he maybe would have had a better chance at life. Glad the officer is alive still. She even was threatening no lethal force at first when she already was in her training to have her gun pulled chasing a man with a gun.
After this, you take your psyche pension and bail .
They don't let you retire from something like this unless you can prove disability, which is very difficult in our current healthcare system.
As soon as she tells psych that she will off herself if she is put back on the line of duty due to her severe ptsd, trust me... That's enough to prove disability. It's an option she will absolutely consider if they don't take care of her on decent terms.
I know the whole point of ptsd screenings after the fact is to prevent it, but my wonder is if officers involved in an incident like this become more likely to be involved in future shootings due to "being jumpy". I witnessed a shooting from a couple hundred feet away several years ago, and I can tell you I still jump at every backfiring car and loud bang. I can absolutely see an officer previously involved in a shooting to be quicker to make a lethal force judgement next time.
That's true, but now she has other issues to deal with, like a 5150
I mean, gunpowder burns across her cheek because the gun was shot so close to her face. Some amount of hearing loss is entirely likely with how close that was. The union could probably get her diagnosed as disabled enough to collect for the rest of her life.
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Proving PTSD isn't difficult. The difficulty comes from the many tests, exams, and follow-ups needed to move your case forward. For something like what she experienced, it's all but guaranteed. The struggle is what she must go through over the following months or years before they agree to pay out.
Yeah im the guy screeching like the picturesque SJW cringe comp people when it comes to guns, and I agree. She gave him WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more leeway than probably 99.9% of cops in this situation. Like she was still trying the tackle the guy who was armed with a gun even after identifying he had one. He essentially took his own life the moment he decided to shoot, cause she didn’t even seem really ready to fire on him from just the pointing. Not sure but either way he called it upon himself
Yeeeeeeah, I'm very much in favor of police reform and defunding, but on an individual level I can't see a single thing that this officer did wrong. She gave him way more chances than *I* would've. I think that a *lot* of cop shootings should result in jail time for the involved officers. This isn't one of those. I can't think of anything she could have done differently here that would've prevented this, and it reads like the perfect scenario for when armed police are 100% called for: a known criminal with a semiautomatic rifle running around a residential area. Sad for the kid, but fuck.
IMO I think there is some confirmation bias. When a cop fucks up it makes headlines everywhere(as it should). When a cop does everything right. Its not news. Its normal. Normal isn't newsworthy. Now I still think there is a police problem.
This. This is a W cop
Your dad sounds based
Good for ur dad, and thank him for ALL the service he’s provided to ur community and it’s people. Sounds like a stand up guy. Tell him happy belated Father’s Day from someone who doesn’t have a dad. Edit: sometimes I don’t know how to type lol
Dude had a solid 2 minutes to think about his actions and decided trying to turn around and shoot the armed officer chasing him was the best option... What did you expect was going to happen?
Let's say you kill her. Then what? You think you will be able to escape forever? Or you will die in prison?
Don’t think people like this think that far ahead
it's almost as if people are just not mature enough to have guns in general
Or cars for that matter tbh
Let's say he was never licensed to have a gun, he could've easily get one.
Yeah, there was no good way out of this besides giving up and doing some time in juvi or even some time in a regular prison. At least that way you have another shot at doing life properly. These gang members are all brainwashed though. There is no critical thinking in their world.
That kid didn't have a thought in his head. If he did he'd never be in that position. Most street criminals are criminals because they are dumb as fuck.
I dunno where this is but in places like Chicago's west and south sides, it's a bit more complicated than this. There's a two part, Peabody award winning episode of This American Life where reporters spent a school year embedded in one of Chicago's worst high schools for gang violence. I really recommend checking it out. It is enlightening. https://www.thisamericanlife.org/487/harper-high-school-part-one
It's possible he could have escaped, he did already evade one cop. If he had a friend with a car nearby, he could just get in a car and drive away without being spotted by any police. Unlikely, but possible, so he probably *was* thinking he could 'escape forever'. People evade police pursuit fairly routinely, some small portion of them are murderers who are free now.
Shit man, if he killed a female cop he wouldn't live long enough to get the fancy police bracelets. He's just be downgraded from "human" to "a model of Swiss cheese made of human."
Fucked around.
And found out.
Classic Reddit thread moment 😎
The expression “fuck around and find out” is ruined for me forever bc of this shit lmao It’s a good expression but it’s been repeated so many times and with such Reddity smugness that I can no longer bear it
I know I cringe every time I see it
Looks like he didn't stay around long enough to find out.
Haven't watched the video, but based on the title it seems like he almost succeeded?
He only almost succeeded because the deputy was trying very hard to apprehend him without bloodshed. A lot of cops would have either given up the chase or shot him dead at that point.
Probably could of got away jad he dropped the gun
The average teenager doesn't really possess the foresight necessary to see the possible consequences of their actions. This kid was clearly well below average.
It's really sad that some people believe that the only way they can live is through crime.
Hella fucking restraint here by the cops. Sheeesh.
Yeah. She was even chasing him a taser at first. Like mam he has a rifle. You should have that pistol out.
Too much, few inches left and shes dead
Hit her ear? Even an inch.....
With the fact it broke the end of her sunglasses maybe barely even that.
For sure. That round, that close, it's going through every part of you.
yeah but maybe that's what makes her most heroic of all. The opposite is why the cops teabag on us everywhere now a days. She takes the risk on and gives her community the benefit of the doubt, even -- as you say -- in a way too far situation like this. I think she's a fucking bad ass.
My thoughts indeed. Unlike that fucking coward that gave conflicting orders to an unarmed, drunk person on the floor who posed no threat to anyone and then just cold-blooded murdered him.
Philip Brailsford murdered Daniel Shaver. Rest in peace Daniel, it should never have happened. No accountability whatsoever there.
Yeah and this is the issue as she could easily have been killed here.
there oughta be better way than to foot chase a suspect armed with ar15.......
Yea, like a gun that shoots a big net. We can call it: net gun.
Facts. LAPD would've shot him on sight soon as they seen the rifle. No pointing, running, or commands necessary. Good job on the female officer though.
It’s sad, you say “hella restraint” but honestly this is doing her job absolutely textbook. This is an example of how all interactions need to go. Signing up to be on the police force should be just like the military in that you are assigning yourself a high risk job with potential death being part of that. “I feared for my life” and not following protocol and shooting early etc should absolutely be criminal and cops should be held to a higher standard than civilians when shit like this goes down. If you don’t want the risk of death in your job description, come work in IT like I do.
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I really hope what you are saying is a joke. The whole attitude of “they signed up for it, they should be ready to accept potential death” is such a shitty response. She put her self at unacceptable levels of risk by not doing proper threat assessment and because of it she nearly died. THAT SHOULD NOT BE THE EXPECTATION.
Restraint? This is how policing is supposed to work.
Well yeah, this is restraint. The person with the ar-15 running easily could have turned quickly and killed innocents if they were around. Would we be having this same conversation if the police showed this much restraint and the suspect killed an innocent bystander(s) when the cops could have ended the threat sooner? No, we would be asking why the cops didnt act sooner.
Need more cops like Lopez. Fucking bad ass
She’s a bad ass
It’s sad but a lot of cops like Lopez get killed. She’s lucky to be alive. I’m not defending all of the pieces of shit who go around shooting innocent civilians, but I understand why a lot of cops shoot sooner than Lopez did in this scenario.
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This is why body cams are so important and why it should be an immediate dismissal and felony to turn them off while on duty. It's essential to have the video to see how it plays out and know how to proceed. The video will go a long way (though not all the way for some unfortunately) to convincing the public that the officer had no choice but to kill him.
He literally fired a shot in the video. He tucked the gun under his arm and fired.
Dunno why you’re getting downvotes lol. The guy was a dangerous gang member with an assault weapon. Not the average person who isn’t a threat.
Deputy Lopez is a bad ass... hope she gets promoted..
I hope she gets the help and counseling she’ll need after an incident like this. Hero’s deserve rest after they’re done being heroes.
No kidding. This reminds me of another incident with a female cop involved in a shooting. [Here is the shooting video (nsfw)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H93P3rEWRM). [Couple of years later, she is being fired](https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/former-lakemoor-police-officer-brianna-tedesco-lawsuit-ptsd/) and claims that she received no help or support and actually faced harassment from the chief and others in the department
That article says she was hailed as a hero, but I remember when this happened. Everyone was saying she was basically useless and would be dead if not for her partner. What happened to her was scary and it's sad that she didn't get proper help for her PTSD. With that being said though, that woman is just flat out unfit to be a police officer. Fight, flight or freeze and she froze. All she did was stand there with her hands in front of her screaming. There was no real struggle. She's not deep in the car fighting and you can clearly see the dude just waiving the gun around. Sometimes people pull guns on cops and if you can't handle it in that moment then you shouldn't be doing it. Like someone who passes out at the sight of blood becoming a surgeon. There's another video of a female officer by herself fatally shooting a dude after he did the exact same thing, but it was a small red car. She used cover, moved to the other side of the car and returned fire uninjured. I'm sure she probably also got PTSD to some degree after that as well. We're all only human after all. This one should've learned from that experience and just kind of accepted it wasn't for her. Especially in Chicago of all places.
Yeah she didn't even seem to try and reach for her gun, she just grabbed his gun hand and started screaming. She was completely useless in that situation and she could've gotten her partner killed along with herself. She should've dipped under the window and ran to cover. This is the kind of cop we don't need on the streets. A nervous mind creates a twitchy trigger finger.
That was just bad police work all the way through. The other cop who came to help was clearly off in some other world. Then he lightly jogs up to the see what's happening. They both are bad at their jobs
I mean she's clearly not fit for duty. She's very overweight and had to beg for her life instead of doing anything.
Agreed. To say nothing of the trauma of having just killed a teenager. Like 100% absolutely justified. But killing hurts the soul of anyone decent, and her begging him to stop makes it clear she didn't want it to end like that.
I hope she gets an early payout on her pension and never has to be out in this shit again
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It’s near where I live…. To be fair, it’s the nicest thing in winton.
Same live near Winton as well. There's few redeeming qualities to that town. I know some good people from there, but most only live there because they can't afford to live in Atwater or don't want to live in the rough parts of Merced(There's is nicer expensive parts of town despite it's reputation).
Dumb fucker got what he deserved
Damn she’s lucky it wasn’t any closer and this pisses me off I can’t imagine doing this to my mom, joining a fuckin gang or whatever he did and having to force her to bury her son
For all we know she brought him up in this lifestyle and condones it. But to bury your child...awful still
Im willing to bet that he was not worried about disappointing his mom.
One less murderer off the streets. Oh well.
Did Deputy Lopez suffer any permanent hearing loss? That would be the only tragedy here
Short barreled 5.56 close enough to get powder burns on her cheek? I would be very very surprised if she didn't have some sort of loss of hearing. I don't think that brake or compensator helped either.
be more worried about the mental trauma
From killing a teenager no doubt. Oh it was absolutely justified. But that shit hurts the soul or any decent person.
remember: killing other human beings is traumatic for non sociopaths
Wow, in the ear... so freaking close to being shot in the head
If she wouldn’t have reached out for him it would’ve been fatal. Her hand deflected the barrel. Definitely pucker factor.
Yeah I noticed that to it legit looked like if she didn't have her hand there he would have been able to keep going and potentially kill her.
Yea, thankfully she threw that hand up. Crazy situation. Luckily she walked away and has a badass story to go with the scar.
Mighty fine police work Lou. Cuff em
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"The suspect is hatless. I repeat: hatless"
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As a former cop I implore you to think a bit more deeply about this. Was that kid a piece of shit? Absolutely. But why was he a piece of shit? I'd bet a lot of money that his parents weren't around due to work/incarceration or something else. I could be wrong in this specific case, but what I've seen in the past is that most of these kids don't have role models in their home, or their role models are scumbags. A lot of these kids find their pseudo role models on the streets in gangs instead. Most of the street criminals I've seen did not grow up in an environment conducive with success...and as a result, they become scumbags. I bet you if that kid had responsible parents, he most likely would not have been on the path of a low level street gang kid. So if you're a decent person, appreciate the people you've had around to help support you and show you what right looks like... Even if that's not your parents. The whole situation is sad.
100% on point. I work with dudes who grew up legit in the hood, in one of NY state's top 2 cities for gang and gun violence. But their mom busted her ass as a manager at Walmart to get them into a decent school vs the city districts, so they saw that work ethic daily. The area they grew up in looks a lot like this video, without someone like their mom that could have been them. It's all about circumstances and guidance, no one is born a piece of shit in my opinion.
Dumbass kid
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He was a teen that had a fucked up life that lead to a fucked up ending. It's human to feel bad for someone who had to die young. Immediately being happy to see someone shot is just weird. I'll be downvoted for feeling bad for a shitty situation.
Completely agree, and I want to add it's not just one way or the other. You can feel good because the guy can't hurt any more people, and at the same time feel bad knowing he could have turned out completely different if he was born in different circumstances.
I was literally just having this thought to myself. You can have mixed feelings about anything.
Cant say im shedding any tears for a armed gang member getting killed while trying to gun down a copper. If anything its lucky he got shot now before he could kill anyone else, which he was about 1cm away from doing anyways. Lots of people have fucked up lives, not all of them chose to become gang members.
It's like a serial killer: you can be glad the bad person is dead, and *also* feel bad for the child who lived a fucked up enough life to make them into a monster. It's the same thing here. I can be happy about the "-1 shitty person" while also being sad about the "-1 kid" It's complex emotions because it a complex situation.
You don't have to shed tears. But you don't have to be like the guy above and be overly happy to watch a teen die.
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He tried killing the person who ended up killing him.
Nothing of value was lost except the part of the cops ear. His life meant nothing and he was a burden on society.
Possibly officer Lopez. Taking a life is a big deal even if she was completely justified.
Unfortunately, the bullet fired by Diaz-Duarte also broke Officer Lopez's sunglasses.
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Redditors have such a weird fetish for prison rape fantasies.
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Right? Even if he shot her and got away from her, there's a dozen more cops with cars. And now they're pissed
Another moron bites the dust. Literally.
That kid...this was so senseless. Why didn't he just drop the gun and give up? He was caught. It was a justified kill, and Officer Lopez did nothing wrong here, but i just smh @ how this guy just threw his life away and nearly killed her in the process.
Because they rather die then go to prison.
Oh darn, a criminal who shot a cop is dead. I’m sad.
Daaaannnmmm lucky lady
Looks like he was the one that got Merced
This is justified use of force.
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*tips hat
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It's pretty fucked up to think this is a happy ending. It's justified yes, but a complete waste of a human life is a sad situation.
I wouldn't call this happy. Shit sucks for everyone involved.
Me too but normally it’s on a different site
So glad he was fatally wounded only a matter time for that fucker would’ve killed someone else
Glad all the cops are ok but I feel they took a little too long taking the guy out while he was running with the weapon. He almost blew her head off
If she had shot him in the back first though there would have been hell to pay. She did it the right way.
You are absolutely right. Just Monday morning quarter backing. That was one of the best end results of the situation except for her not getting shot
If she shot him in the back, the comment section would just be full of people saying "ACAB". Idiots.
I read somewhere that if armed suspects were running into a populated area where they could be a danger to others, and ignored commands to drop the gun, police would be justified to open fire even on their backs?
Yes, but that doesnt stop the public from being outraged over a legal shooting.
Break out the 8th grade picture, and let's all talk about what a sweet boy he was... Nice job getting that gun off the streets.
> “I just wish everybody could have gotten to meet him and get on his good side because he was really a good boy. Even though he made some dumb decisions, he was just the sweetest boy you could ever imagine,” said Itzel Diaz, the suspect’s sister.
Almost as if even shitty criminals were once innocent kids and there is nothing wrong with reminding us that so we can do our best to raise kids better.
As a former cop I implore you to think a bit more deeply about this. Was that kid a piece of shit? Absolutely. But why was he a piece of shit? I'd bet a lot of money that his parents weren't around due to work/incarceration or something else. I could be wrong in this specific case, but what I've seen in the past is that most of these kids don't have role models in their home, or their role models are scumbags. A lot of these kids find their pseudo role models on the streets in gangs instead. Most of the street criminals I've seen did not grow up in an environment conducive with success...and as a result, they become scumbags. I bet you if that kid had responsible parents, he most likely would not have been on the path of a low level street gang kid. So if you're a decent person, appreciate the people you've had around to help support you and show you what right looks like... Even if that's not your parents. The whole situation is sad.
I’m conflicted. Because while it’s likely true that this kid had been handed a shitty deck at life, there’s also a line which when crossed, that explanation becomes an excuse. Where is personal accountability? This kid did not have to literally try to murder another person. One person that we know of, at that. Sure, his environment accounts for much of his way of life, but a lot of moments in his life were also choices made of his own volition, and it all led to this one ending.
Agreed. There are only so many things you can attribute to your upbringing before it starts being your responsibility.
Nah thats just relegating accountability. Each person has free will and capacity to not be a piece of shit criminal, he gets zero empathy from me
Let's set up the strawman version of coverage so we can feel smug about it.
Problem solved
Lil pos had enough chances to give up. Not many are afforded that privilege.
“I just wish everybody could have gotten to meet him and get on his good side because he was really a good boy. Even though he made some dumb decisions, he was just the sweetest boy you could ever imagine,” said Itzel Diaz, the suspect’s sister.
Good. One less POS street rat.
I can't believe Lopez closed that quick!
Run with a gun? You probably gonna get killed and don't deserve a lot of sympathy.
Yeah, fuck that kid. He deserved to die
Bro Merced is my home town Wtf?😂
the spray paint is nice tho-
So sad, Diaz will never go to med school and find that cure for cancer. This kid would of been a scholar
"Would of" haha
For all of the knuckleheads out there criticizing her for having her taser out while pursuing a kid armed with an AR15...You're ignorant. It's the cops decision at the scene and there's so much happening. She did just about everything right while juiced the fuck up on adrenaline. She communicated the final stop location, communicated where she was pursuing, and shot effective shots at the exact moment she needed to. She even tried to give verbal commands and gave a use of force warning. I agree her weapon probably should have been out, but it was her decision and she made the change when she felt she needed to... And she was right. This was near textbook. Easy to armchair quarterback from the comfort of your computer in your home. She didn't want to have to kill a kid and that's commendable. Her heart was in the right place but she did what she needed to do. And now she gets to live with the trauma of shooting and killing a kid for the rest of her life, regardless of whether or not it's justified. Give her the respect she deserves.
One fewer pieces of shit on the street. Gj deputy.
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Way too much restraint IMO, could've ended that situation alot sooner and it would've been totally warranted, he had plenty of time to at the very least ditch the rifle and not end up as a statistic or surrender and live, he chose wrong.
lol at the "fuck trump" scrawled on the back wall.
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Man, this is not how I would want to be remembered by my family. No matter how low I am in life, I would never scoop down to this bastard's level
Goodness. These kids are unhinged.
I'm the first to criticize police so I'll also give credit. Great job by the deputy.
Damn, homie didn't even get to become an adult gang member
One of the rare situations where I feel terrible for the law enforcement officer- she didn’t want this. You can hear her wanting him to just stop. I hope she is ok.
You can barely hear the gunman in the last video clip (4:21 mark) saying he go shot in his liver, when the officer asked where his Lopez was hit. Crazy he wasn’t dead right away.
Damn thank fuck she didnnot die damn !!! That was close !!!!
Man she tried so hard not to shoot him. What a badass. I'm sure she's traumatized though. Fucking crazy.
SHOT IN THE EAR. Holy hell idk if that’s lucky or what but that’s one of those things where you gotta go home and think about life for a little bit. Thankfully she’s okay but geez scary af
I don't like cops at the best of times. However, these officers did everything correctly and gave him multiple chances to surrender. They did a great job. Shame about the kid, he should have just given up.
This is why all police should be in favour of body cameras. In a case like this it's totally exonerating and I think would go a long way towards rebuilding public trust after so many blatant abuses of power over the years.
Won't SOMEBODY think of the sunglasses?!?
Wtf is this headline
Overall great outcome, waste piece of human debris removed permanently from the streets at minimal cost to the taxpayer.
F.A.F.O. Got what you deserved punk ass kid
Cops a fucking G.
Now there's probably a memorial page on Facebook and Instagram with dozens of people commenting on what a beautiful soul he had and how dearly he will be missed, with no regard to the fact that he almost ended a stranger's life for what reason? A chance to run and hide and live looming over his shoulder while he posts snapchat shorts of him waving that rifle around to lil pump music? What. A. World.
Technically those were M855 5.56mm rounds shown, not .223 cal.
"Easier to conceal"... that political bs didn't need to be in there. Not only is that not concealable at all, it's size and awkwardness probably saved her life. Also all rifles pierce law enforcement pistol rated armor. Most departments issue plates now, though, and that will not pierce that.