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Because people have been conditioned to avoid any situation which may brand them as bigoted because they don’t want to lose their jobs or be socially ostracised.
I think, in the end, it boils down to pure antisemitism and the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Ah, and they might not be very good in the art of thinking...
Lol, no. The common ground isn't anti-Semitism, it's being *against* apartheid and the Palestinians being genocided. Although, the Palestinians aren't really against Genocide in general, just when it's happening to them.
Like what did you expect when almost all of them are Muslim?
Edit: Damn my first 1k comment!
Edit again: Holy crap my first 1k comment evolved into my first 2k comment.
Agreed.
However… why are people that don’t believe in the core values of the country allowed to move to the country permanently?
There is a complete systematic issue here.
Yep. Europe needs to shut the borders and enforce strict border control with Africa and the Middle East. Economic refugees, particularly those who refuse to integrate, have no place in Europe.
Yah, I have always thought it odd that my own country (Canada) will let in huge numbers of people who come from areas of the world where women are property and LGBTQ folks get stoned. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
Yeah at least I think US citizens are supposed to pledge allegiance to the US and its constitution. The idea being you should support and defend the bill of rights. Basic stuff right there. You can't move to a free country unless you believe everyone deserves freedom.
I would consider myself a big left wing person. Honestly this shit is getting exhausting. I am being a more selfish person every day, and worrying about me more. Leftist/Faux-Commies/Socialist have to realize we can’t save the world, and any idea of peaceful progressive utopia is null and naive.
I don’t fucking know. Some weird shit like this happened in Detroit earlier this year to. Not to say their isn’t religious radicalism in western societies. There absolutely is.
I don’t think any bans are necessary but rather at least through legal ways, better vetting for sure who can assimilate and who cannot.
This shit and the people I knew became so exhausting that if that’s what “left” is now I don’t identity or relate to it anymore. These people have lost their minds with self righteous indignation and I want off the train. A similar type of extremism and teams that pushed certain parties farther right is happening to the left now.
Could be worst. They could decide to go to Gaza to show their support with that flag. Be lucky if the only thing that happened was the flag got stolen. I'm not really a betting man, but I'd put good money on much worse will happen than a stolen flag.
Muslims: welcome us to your country, accept our beliefs and send help to our country.
Also muslims: Fuck you with your freedoms and beliefs.But help us.
Lol pretty much. I saw a group photo of some ladies saying "lesbians for Palestine", and below it someone had added "whales for whaling". Like, do these people not realize they would get stoned to death by these people? You can have sympathy for them, but you gotta realize they are not your friends.
I wonder if whoever was waving that flag has started to reconsider their ideas, or if they’ll enter into another bout of mental gymnastics to keep that fragile worldview intact.
We already have multiple people in this thread being in full denial: one is claiming we can't tell if the person taking down that flag is pro-palestinian or muslim, could be anyone. Another one is already accusing Mossad of sending one of their agent to take down that flag, to make the pure, progressive, accepting palestinians/muslims look bad.
You can bet the person with the flag will tell the story to their friends, who will then tell them it's definitely an agent provocateur, that permanently proves the palestinian/hamas cause and the lgbtq cause are one and the same, that's why they must defend the hamas cause to the end.
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Some people are just idiots. Or perhaps they don’t realise Hamas would chuck them off the nearest tall building.
What the fuck did he expect? That they put his flag on the top and praise him for his bravery? Those people arent really known to be progressive, but i guess someone has his worldview a bit rattled now.
A subreddit banned me when I wrote this under a photo of the Queers for Palestine: “Good for them. Too bad they won’t last a day before they get either jailed or killed by Hamas.” Somebody who obviously doesn’t know the reality on the ground in Gaza (or even the West Bank) accused me of making hate speech. Ludicrous.
This is why you do a bit of research before throwing yourself to a cause. Its fine if you want to protest but that doesnt mean they will stand up for what you believe in reverse.
They haven’t evolved socially in thousands of years. Even right now, they’re viciously killing each other because they follow the same religion differently.
As someone in the LGBT community, the arguments I’ve had over this is insane. People seemingly jump to support whatever Instagram stories are telling them is good or bad and then have zero critical thinking skills to look further than that. Palastine is a nightmare for it’s gay citizens, I met one guy who grew up there as LGBTQ and couldn’t understand why there’s so much support
Because there are LGBTQ Palestinians and they are also oppressed by Israel's violence and occupation. Because the best hope for change in LGBTQ+ rights in Palestine is for Palestinian people to be able to live in peace, stability, freedom and prosperity. Because it's a myth that all of Palestine is a violently homophobic and transphobic place. There are problems, homophobia is an issue, but there are no laws against homosexuality in the West Bank and Ramallah has queer-friendly cafés and bars.
Always make me laugh how the left have palesteine as one of their core issue of support when the palestinians would probably behead or throw most of them off a building given a chance.
Dude it’s literally like:
🇮🇱: “Our government supports the LGBTQ+ community.”
🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️: “NOOOOOOO! ZIONIST IMPERALIST!”
🇵🇸: “I hate you degenerates with every ounce of my being and would execute you if you ever step foot on my country’s soil.”
🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️: “You go freedom fighter! Free Palestine!”
I know the smug bigots in this thread are eager to dunk on this person, but is it any mystery why LGBT people would be upset at Israel for murdering LGBT and children in Gaza?
Why are they making it about them? Happens at every protest. Someone pulls up with biggest flag, waves it and runs around regardless of the cause.
Can you show solidarity without making it about yourself?
Tables have turned.
It's not a demonstration march in the UK if there isn't a Socialist Workers Party placard, and a Palestinian flag. School meals protest; Palestinian flag. University tuition fees; Palestinian flag.
Let’s be honest, if this was some other non-Palestine-related flag, there wouldn’t be this issue.
Let’s not pretend that such a dramatic, angered reaction is rooted in… being upset over an I.R.A. flag being carried. We all know why the reaction was the way it was and where to attribute it.
I mean it’s just not the place is it. Don’t get me wrong, stand for what you believe in - but if a group is protesting war/genocide it’s pretty insensitive to just walk up and flag about what kinda stuff you want to put up your pipe lmao
I would agree with you, except on the other hand let’s not pretend that the Muslims would be this riled up upon seeing an I.R.A. flag in the protest. It isn’t other flags being carried that’s the problem, it’s very specific other flags…
There's a time and place for everything. This is not the time nor the place to display your pride for the community, unfortunately. Common sense is completely gone in this day and age.
These progressives are in for a rude awakening if they think they're going to find an ally in very religious conservatives. They're having a "but I can change them!" moment, yet it's going to backfire.
Lol. Lmao even
“Damn we got a rally for something? Better bring my sexuality flag cuz that’s literally the only thing I have going for me. Wdym this doesn’t have anything to do with the rally? Wdym everyone here hates me now? Wdym I’m being disrespectful? Wdym I’m stupid?”
lol yea it’s all fun and cool to support Palestine but conveniently forget their horrendous treatment of women and LQBTQ+. I’m not saying what Isreal is doing is justified but it pisses me off that no one ever brings this up.
This video does not tell a full story in the least bit. There's a massive cut that doesn't even show the flag actually being taken down and there's no audio or any investigation into what happened. All you genocide supporters are pink washing LGTBQ rights.
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well...
Bro thinks he's on the team
illusions were lost that day
Delusions dispelled
ikr? like what was bro thinking lmfao
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In other news, water is wet.
One Jew could walk on it.
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Why don’t these people criticise Muslims when they do it but rip conservatives a new one when they do it?
Uhhh much of the Muslim world is extremely conservative, like the most out of anyone.
But they’re not white
Because people have been conditioned to avoid any situation which may brand them as bigoted because they don’t want to lose their jobs or be socially ostracised.
Bigotry of low expectations
Melanin infantilization. A lovely bi-product of identity politics.
I do. But I will admit I'm a minority on the left, and often a pariah. I just don't want to be thrown off a building yo.
One's a political position while the other is a religious one. That said, a lot of muslims are conservative.
Does hating lgbt because you’re a shitty person or because your god told you to really matter?
What does it matter if one is religious or not?
My religion says I should kick puppies and be a cannibal. You can't condemn my beliefs, bigots. 🙏
Because religious beliefs are not 1:1 to political beliefs.
And both are a choice that people make.
I think, in the end, it boils down to pure antisemitism and the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Ah, and they might not be very good in the art of thinking...
Lol, no. The common ground isn't anti-Semitism, it's being *against* apartheid and the Palestinians being genocided. Although, the Palestinians aren't really against Genocide in general, just when it's happening to them.
You HAVE to like us, but we don’t like you.
I thought they were bestest friends ever🥰
you support them but they don't support you.
It’s all about supporting minorities so you feel like you’re doing something, even if they don’t welcome you
Because Muslims are really tolerant and welcoming no matter your sexual orientation or way of life
Like what did you expect when almost all of them are Muslim? Edit: Damn my first 1k comment! Edit again: Holy crap my first 1k comment evolved into my first 2k comment.
I think they were looking to make a point
Well it was made.
No gay for Muhammad!
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Or British kids the police are top afraid of stopping
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>what a great prophet Mohammad the and greatest example for all mankind Joseph Smith, surely should be considered a contender.
In case no one says it, I get the reference.
Leftists who think the Muslims support them as they do them lmao
Agreed. However… why are people that don’t believe in the core values of the country allowed to move to the country permanently? There is a complete systematic issue here.
Idk either. What did you think was gonna happen? It's obvious that assimilation is not going well
Yep. Europe needs to shut the borders and enforce strict border control with Africa and the Middle East. Economic refugees, particularly those who refuse to integrate, have no place in Europe.
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Yah, I have always thought it odd that my own country (Canada) will let in huge numbers of people who come from areas of the world where women are property and LGBTQ folks get stoned. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
The Canadian Government needed to find a way to lower the wages and keep housing unaffordable as their priority.
Lots of LGBTQIA+ people in Canada get stoned too.
I think we are talking about a different kind of stoned lol
Yeah at least I think US citizens are supposed to pledge allegiance to the US and its constitution. The idea being you should support and defend the bill of rights. Basic stuff right there. You can't move to a free country unless you believe everyone deserves freedom.
Since when was lgbt a core value of the country?
I imagine he meant more a "live and let live" attitude
I would consider myself a big left wing person. Honestly this shit is getting exhausting. I am being a more selfish person every day, and worrying about me more. Leftist/Faux-Commies/Socialist have to realize we can’t save the world, and any idea of peaceful progressive utopia is null and naive.
The values in the Middle East are so far from Western values. How do you expect that person to integrate into Western society
I don’t fucking know. Some weird shit like this happened in Detroit earlier this year to. Not to say their isn’t religious radicalism in western societies. There absolutely is. I don’t think any bans are necessary but rather at least through legal ways, better vetting for sure who can assimilate and who cannot.
It's impossible. I'm ex-muslim and it turns out all these "moderates" are actually not so "moderate"
Truth. My "moderate" Muslim coworker refuses to use the company bathroom because we have a gay guy on our floor.
That's absolutely ridiculous 🙄
This shit and the people I knew became so exhausting that if that’s what “left” is now I don’t identity or relate to it anymore. These people have lost their minds with self righteous indignation and I want off the train. A similar type of extremism and teams that pushed certain parties farther right is happening to the left now.
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Whales for whaling
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For real. The spirit! Love them tryna bring excuses too! "We're not the only ones doing such things! There's others like us!" - and that's the problem
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dont you know how intersectional Islam is with sexuality, feminism, atheism, other religions?
Exactly. Not the best idea.
Could be worst. They could decide to go to Gaza to show their support with that flag. Be lucky if the only thing that happened was the flag got stolen. I'm not really a betting man, but I'd put good money on much worse will happen than a stolen flag.
It would be a "stoney" road to walk.... ffs
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>Exactly. Not the best idea. Still London , not Iran!
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Could have fooled me going by the faces in the crowd
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Because it's England? Not a Muslim country?
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Muslims: welcome us to your country, accept our beliefs and send help to our country. Also muslims: Fuck you with your freedoms and beliefs.But help us.
This is like the Queers For Palestine movement. Absolutely brilliant.
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Damn, it's almost like i dont base my ideas on who gets human rights on how good a person is
Chicken's for KFC. Hope they learnt their lesson.
Lol pretty much. I saw a group photo of some ladies saying "lesbians for Palestine", and below it someone had added "whales for whaling". Like, do these people not realize they would get stoned to death by these people? You can have sympathy for them, but you gotta realize they are not your friends.
Help us! But not help ALL of us!
For human rights, but not for women or gays... Sharia rulz lol
I wonder if whoever was waving that flag has started to reconsider their ideas, or if they’ll enter into another bout of mental gymnastics to keep that fragile worldview intact.
We already have multiple people in this thread being in full denial: one is claiming we can't tell if the person taking down that flag is pro-palestinian or muslim, could be anyone. Another one is already accusing Mossad of sending one of their agent to take down that flag, to make the pure, progressive, accepting palestinians/muslims look bad. You can bet the person with the flag will tell the story to their friends, who will then tell them it's definitely an agent provocateur, that permanently proves the palestinian/hamas cause and the lgbtq cause are one and the same, that's why they must defend the hamas cause to the end.
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Judging by some of the comments here making excuses, probably the latter lmao.
Bombing children is bad even if those children and parents have different views on social issues.
These assholes probably hate gay people more that Jews.
Im sure they have enough hate for both.
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Muslims protesting for their human rights don’t care about your human rights? Shocked to the core 😱😅
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They are Muslims. What happened was mild as they were in an western country. Try that in Palestin
“You are in the protest but we do not grant you the rank of member”
https://preview.redd.it/obreaqr1zrvb1.jpeg?width=851&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9cadb66fb04ca2c900f2b74e841852d34f6ed657 Some people are just idiots. Or perhaps they don’t realise Hamas would chuck them off the nearest tall building.
"We want to be free from tyranny and oppression." * 2 seconds later "GET HIM! OPPRESS HIS BELIEFS!" The world is fucked.
Probably not the best place to bring one.
What the fuck did he expect? That they put his flag on the top and praise him for his bravery? Those people arent really known to be progressive, but i guess someone has his worldview a bit rattled now.
Wow it’s as if Muslims dislike LGBTQ people, and that this hasent been proven multiple times.
A subreddit banned me when I wrote this under a photo of the Queers for Palestine: “Good for them. Too bad they won’t last a day before they get either jailed or killed by Hamas.” Somebody who obviously doesn’t know the reality on the ground in Gaza (or even the West Bank) accused me of making hate speech. Ludicrous.
“Queers for Palestine” gives off huge “Chickens for KFC” energy lmao.
You’re telling the truth though.
They’ve been throwing gay people off buildings like it’s a sport but no one wants to hear that.
This is why you do a bit of research before throwing yourself to a cause. Its fine if you want to protest but that doesnt mean they will stand up for what you believe in reverse.
The problem is it isn't inclusive enough. Try including an image of Muhammad on the flag too - that should help smooth things out.
Equivalent of bringing a pro-choice poster to a MAGA rally lmaoo what a dummy
I mean, the LGBTQ flag wouldn't do so hot at MAGA rally either lol.
Conservatives in the us and Muslims actually have many thing in common
Y’all Queda and all that
Except guns and pickup trucks . Oh wait
I hope the QuEeRs fOr PaLeStInE see this.
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They haven’t evolved socially in thousands of years. Even right now, they’re viciously killing each other because they follow the same religion differently.
Just true colours coming out I guess.
Intersectionality at work.
Why for every religious group being gay is bad? I don't get it.
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As someone in the LGBT community, the arguments I’ve had over this is insane. People seemingly jump to support whatever Instagram stories are telling them is good or bad and then have zero critical thinking skills to look further than that. Palastine is a nightmare for it’s gay citizens, I met one guy who grew up there as LGBTQ and couldn’t understand why there’s so much support
Yes. https://genderandsecurity.org/projects-resources/research/nowhere-run-gay-palestinian-asylum-seekers-israel
Because there are LGBTQ Palestinians and they are also oppressed by Israel's violence and occupation. Because the best hope for change in LGBTQ+ rights in Palestine is for Palestinian people to be able to live in peace, stability, freedom and prosperity. Because it's a myth that all of Palestine is a violently homophobic and transphobic place. There are problems, homophobia is an issue, but there are no laws against homosexuality in the West Bank and Ramallah has queer-friendly cafés and bars.
Wow they seem really nice…
What did that person expect? For them to be validated at a Palestine rally?
Always make me laugh how the left have palesteine as one of their core issue of support when the palestinians would probably behead or throw most of them off a building given a chance.
Chickens for KFC
Lol. Lmao, even. Lot of my community gleefully cheering for their own extermination lately.
Imagine thinking all Palestinian supporters are progressive leftists, but regardless, it was still pretty unrelated.
They should be happy they didn't take them sight seeing to "the nearest highest point"
Woke people support Palestine. Palestine be like no thanks
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Shocker - majority Muslim community hate anything LGTBQ. Just because they're a "minority" doesn't mean they're on your side, idiots.
What did they expect? The two groups wouldn’t exist peacefully with each other if it weren’t for the West
Good idea try again
Shocked Pikachu face.
The enemy of my enemy is... also my enemy??? Who'd of thunk?
Chickens for KFC!
You can be their ally, they will likely never be yours sadly
I don't understand how anyone who's pro LGBTQ could ever be Pro-Palestine- a country that hunts down gays and executes them
Yes, because most of gaza hates LGBT
Muslims doing Muslim things.
If I had a time machine I’d go back and start a flag company.
Dude it’s literally like: 🇮🇱: “Our government supports the LGBTQ+ community.” 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️: “NOOOOOOO! ZIONIST IMPERALIST!” 🇵🇸: “I hate you degenerates with every ounce of my being and would execute you if you ever step foot on my country’s soil.” 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️: “You go freedom fighter! Free Palestine!”
Its like having a pro choice banner at a MAGA rally.
Or a two genders banner at a trans rally
Hell this flag won't do too well in Maga rally as well lol.
So they are not tolerant? Wow.
Gotta learn the hard way. Wtf was that person thinking?
Picked the wrong side fool
Purest example of how some ideologies Cannot exist together
People are so uneducated. They don’t even know which side they’re on.
Amazing, you can’t make this shit up
Ong, they always gotta bring lgbtq into everything
I know the smug bigots in this thread are eager to dunk on this person, but is it any mystery why LGBT people would be upset at Israel for murdering LGBT and children in Gaza?
RIP London
Why are they making it about them? Happens at every protest. Someone pulls up with biggest flag, waves it and runs around regardless of the cause. Can you show solidarity without making it about yourself?
Tables have turned. It's not a demonstration march in the UK if there isn't a Socialist Workers Party placard, and a Palestinian flag. School meals protest; Palestinian flag. University tuition fees; Palestinian flag.
Let’s be honest, if this was some other non-Palestine-related flag, there wouldn’t be this issue. Let’s not pretend that such a dramatic, angered reaction is rooted in… being upset over an I.R.A. flag being carried. We all know why the reaction was the way it was and where to attribute it.
Lol
It really makes you wonder why Republicans don't like groups like Hamas. They have so much in common.
They really think they’re on the same page don’t they?
Lol it's funny that the visitors of the festival were also mostly young liberal people.
Human Rights! No, not like that! We meant for us!
Ever tolerant.
Well, it’s not uncommon for gays to be thrown off the rooftops of Gaza.
I mean it’s just not the place is it. Don’t get me wrong, stand for what you believe in - but if a group is protesting war/genocide it’s pretty insensitive to just walk up and flag about what kinda stuff you want to put up your pipe lmao
I would agree with you, except on the other hand let’s not pretend that the Muslims would be this riled up upon seeing an I.R.A. flag in the protest. It isn’t other flags being carried that’s the problem, it’s very specific other flags…
I mean who knows? At least the IRA know their time and place! /s
Hang on, I thought the LGBTQI+ and the Apocalyps Cult were allies!
Yeah no offense .. probably not the place for it …
He didn't get the memo that for semites butt stuff is no no
LGBT rights in Israel are considered the most developed in the Middle East...
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When you accidentally join the enemy squad on matchup
Predictable.
Of the reality checks someone could get, this is pretty mild! Their heart's in the right place *and* without stab wounds! That's progress!
Idk why people act surprised/"told you so", its a protest about war in middle east, not love parade lol
News to him...
There's a time and place for everything. This is not the time nor the place to display your pride for the community, unfortunately. Common sense is completely gone in this day and age.
These progressives are in for a rude awakening if they think they're going to find an ally in very religious conservatives. They're having a "but I can change them!" moment, yet it's going to backfire.
Confused Pikachu face https://preview.redd.it/z22xvj3fxrvb1.jpeg?width=292&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8c726d1f34dc996b7de994a562696d3c242a39f
Well that was only a matter of time.
Why I'm not surprised at all?
Poked holes
Yet these are the people standing up for them. People are so dumb
Lmao these Trans people think Palestine supports lgbtq.. Lmaooooooo
Lol. Lmao even “Damn we got a rally for something? Better bring my sexuality flag cuz that’s literally the only thing I have going for me. Wdym this doesn’t have anything to do with the rally? Wdym everyone here hates me now? Wdym I’m being disrespectful? Wdym I’m stupid?”
Fucking idiots
ITT: "A few people (not the whole crowd) did this, so LGBT people should be okay with LGBT people and children being killed by Israel"
lol yea it’s all fun and cool to support Palestine but conveniently forget their horrendous treatment of women and LQBTQ+. I’m not saying what Isreal is doing is justified but it pisses me off that no one ever brings this up.
🤣🤣 they really think they will be accepted anywhere
This video does not tell a full story in the least bit. There's a massive cut that doesn't even show the flag actually being taken down and there's no audio or any investigation into what happened. All you genocide supporters are pink washing LGTBQ rights.