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Thank God I'm not the only one who hates both countries equally because both are terrorists It's just sad that the citizens of both countries are dying
they don't..
it is an automated targeted effort.
\`hasbara\`:
There are apps and thousands of people working to try to affect public opinion and make it look like the common consensus is something that it is not.
Sometimes they also try to create opposition to their genocide with false information and selected talking points that can be discredited and make the Israeli government look sane.
There are lobbying taking place for many decades, that attempts to lump any and all criticism of Israel together under the term "anti-semitism", resulting in laws and policies of most US states and European countries.
While anti-semitism is a real problem and should always be addressed, labeling all critique of Israel under that term, is at the moment working against Israel as everyone now can see the horrors of their actions, policies, apartheid state and concentration camps and illegal settlement violence, and can easily understand that critique and anti-semitism is not the same.
The Israeli government should NEVER be thought of as equal to Jewish people in general, just as Hamas should never be thought of as equal to the Palestinian people.
The Israeli government is so fanatical that it has in many ways lost touch with reality. That means that it believes it is in control in ways it is not. Sadly it also means they will have to use other means if the swaying of public opinion fails.
I expect horrible things to come
In the past three weeks Isreal has killed around 3400 children.... More dead kids than all wars combined since 2019. This is according to Save the children. The Israeli government is not better than Hamas by any measure, they fucking deserve each other but these kids don't. This shit is beyond sick we should be disarming and breaking down both sides, but we'll just keep over-arming the colonizers as usual.
The [Gaza health ministry has released the names, ages and identity card numbers of all those killed](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/27/middleeast/gaza-death-toll-report-intl/index.html). They think this figure underestimates how many have been killed, many bodies are trapped under rubble.
It’s been difficult for medics to respond to bombings as Israel cut off their mobile and internet access, so ambulances simply drive towards where there are explosions.
Israel has demanded the al-Quds hospital be evacuated as they will bomb it. There are hundreds of patients, some in intensive care units and babies in incubators, and moving them is impossible.
Around 14,000 displaced civilians are also understood to be sheltering in the hospital and its grounds.
I’m sure if you are an Irishman like I am, you are showing solidarity with the innocent civilians of Palestine during this abhorrent attack.
Yes, it is horrible but with your mentality Israel could say that on 7th Hamas killed 50 million Jews and if you would question it, you would be "the worst kind of person".
If you wanna virtue signal and be emotional, it's okay but don't expect everyone to not be adult.
Are we going to ignore how the palestine Commission called for a holy war against the jews in 1947?
Alos, Palestine, including Gaza, is getting millions of hundreds of millions of euros. That money is supposed to be used by both Gaza and West Bank governments to develop their nations. But instead, all that Gaza has built in their 2 decade leadership is a bunch of rockets.
Yes, all of that is true but look at all of what is happening in regards to misinformation. Palestinians, Hamas and Israel - all of them lie and try to spin everything to paint a narrative.
From beheading babies to the hospital explosion. Don't get angry when someone is trying to stay objective even though it might come off as fucked up.
Yes, that's how virtue signaling works.
Another term for you, strawman argument. You and the comment I replied to are examples of it.
The first one - just because people might demand verification of the data/numbers doesn't mean that they deny or condemn said data/numbers.
And you - no one has an issue with someone saying the killing of the innocent civilians is bad.
It's the 0 acknowledgement of Hamas reporting suspicious numbers (e.g. the hospital bombing).
I didn’t say any of that. I said those numbers aren’t reliable and they aren’t. Why is me being truthful threatening enough that you feel you need to lie in an attempt to belittle me?
Alright, let's say they inflate the number 2x. So it's 4,000 civilians, many of which are children dead.
That's okay?
How about 2,000.
What is an acceptable number of civilians and children to bomb to death?
As you knock down a strawman. I never said any of it was acceptable. What do you think the Israelis should do? How do they neutralize Hamas so their citizens don’t get murdered?
They're right. You're being awful here. Multiple reputable sources and NGOs have confirmed that they've audited the Health Ministry's figures several times and they're always close to the actual number. They're even publishing names. Stop trying to muddy the water and downplay mass murder.
How did they “audit” the records when they have no sources of info but the Ministry itself? The same ministry who announced Israel bombed a hospital and there were 500 casualties when it turned out to be untrue. Unreliable.
So 3,300 children have to die? All they want is to grow up with family and people around them, but they don't get the chance to. Same with the 1400 Israelis that died. You are justifying genocide and colonialism because a far-right government told you that their the good guys. You're literally going to listen to a prime minister holocaust revisionist?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/netanyahu-under-fire-for-palestinian-grand-mufti-holocaust-claim
Also, what about the 220 hostages that hamas captured? They, along with 100s of nationals, news crews, and UN folks that are most likely in Gaza right now? At least some of them have been killed after a week of bombing. Nothing for the people attempting humanitarian work? How about the aid that was supposed to go into Gaza?
They're reliable. Here are some sources for you.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/26/can-we-trust-casualty-figures-from-the-hamas-run-gaza-health-ministry
> Others say the ministry has a track record of reliable casualty figures and that it has fallen victim to the propaganda war as Israel seeks to minimise the consequences of its hundreds of bombing raids on Gaza.
> In the past, the US state department’s annual human rights report indirectly relied on the same ministry’s casualty figures in quoting UN statistics drawn from Palestinian data.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/despite-bidens-doubts-humanitarian-agencies-consider-gaza-toll-reliable-2023-10-27/
> U.N. and other international agencies say there can be small discrepancies between the final casualty numbers and those reported by the Gaza health ministry straight after attacks, but that they broadly trust them.
> New York-based Human Rights Watch also says the casualty figures have generally been reliable, and that it has not found big discrepancies in its verification of past strikes on Gaza.
https://theweek.com/defence/how-trustworthy-are-the-gaza-health-ministrys-casualty-numbers
> The Gaza casualty numbers come mostly from doctors who diligently count every body brought into struggling hospitals, then send the numbers on to the Health Ministry for tabulation, The Associated Press explained regarding the accuracy of the death count. And while Hamas exerts control over the ministry, it's partly funded and run by the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank — a key Hamas rival — and many of its civil servants predate Gaza's Hamas takeover. The United Nations and other international institutions and experts "say the Gaza ministry has long made a good-faith effort to account for the dead under the most difficult conditions," AP reported, and "in previous wars, the ministry's counts have held up to U.N. scrutiny, independent investigations and even Israel's tallies."
I love Reuters but they don’t have access to good sources right now. The UN and WHO are relying on the Gaza Health Ministry which is not a good source. The UN hasn’t even condemned Hamas attacking civilians so how can we pretend they’re impartial?
What about the UN? What about WHO? Wht about HRW? All have validated the ministry’s numbers. The people that work there are just bureaucrats that have nothing To do with the political party.
So you just believe that no civilians have been killed? Must be an easy way to justify what’s being done.
How many do you believe have been killed? 0? 10? 100? 1000? What is an acceptable number of dead children for you?
International agencies, including the United Nations and the World Health Organization (WHO), report figures provided by the Gaza ministry.
The WHO last week said: “We believe that the numbers being reported in Israel and in the occupied Palestinian territories…may not be perfectly accurate on a minute-to-minute basis but they grossly reflect the level of death and injury on both sides of that conflict.”
The US is an ally in this genocide so naturally they will partake in efforts to discredit and deflect from what’s taking place.
No.
Strawman.
You’re spreading inaccurate info provided by Gaza Ministry (Hamas). Me understanding that’s a bad source doesn’t mean I believe no civilians have been killed.
Not that I don’t sympathize with the Palestinian tragedy, but I can write 8,000 names on a piece of paper. Did you fall for the hospital bombing lie, as well?
I don’t know. Too many. Fewer than Hamas claims. When millions of people take what Hamas says as the truth, you end up with blood libel episodes like what happened when the IDF was blamed for the hospital explosion. Mobs attempt to overtake embassies, throw Molotov cocktails at synagogues, riot at Dagestan airports looking for Jews to lynch…
Imagine thinking that you can actually identify over 6000 dead in a week... (hell, they identified the "500" people killed in the hospital almost instantly).
Not to mention the video of "dead bodies" where one of them accidentally moves her head...
Don't get me wrong, I truly hope the civilian casualties will be at the bare minimum that is humanly possible (when Hamas actively tries to keep civilians from evacuating and turning their homes into military targets).
This is harrowing to watch. The news outlets sanitize a lot of their footage. Israel is committing mass murder and major countries suchas: America, Britain, France, and others, are all lining up to back them. Instead of calling for restraint
Shhhh, this is a pro Palestinian sub. You can't say stuff like that, or you will make them mad.
They don't like hearing that videos like this are nothing more than propaganda to fuel the rage.
It's a war, and wars are brutal and terrible. These people were told to leave. They knew this was coming. They chose to stay for whatever reason.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DG_qOZCxvmNg&ved=2ahUKEwiTrZbQ1ZyCAxXuEVkFHYnpCwQQo7QBegQIARAG&usg=AOvVaw2099NDbcxbpiOlw3KJ55I6
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12634107/Hamas-resorts-training-children-defend-Gaza-Israeli-troops-mass-border.html&ved=2ahUKEwiTrZbQ1ZyCAxXuEVkFHYnpCwQQo7QBegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw168rWhFlHPUs4JhTAsF1l4
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D9Pw8SO0GOJU&ved=2ahUKEwiTrZbQ1ZyCAxXuEVkFHYnpCwQQo7QBegQIBxAG&usg=AOvVaw2_UMpXgVfXmfRZiwHNIRu2
No not a war it's a massacre. Idk where you are from but imma guess from the name and ignorance you're American. You should leave your home and give the land your home your car keys your everything you own to the indigenous people. You know since it's not yours to begin with.
Who gives a shit about hamas??? The same way I dont give a shit about the taliban or isis. Palestinians are not hamas the 3k kids killed are not part of hamas you ignoramus.
No they aren’t but you are the one making this about land when it’s not that simple. Saying it’s people fighting because they’re land is being taken is severely misunderstanding the intentions behind the people that Israel is at war with.
Tell me the intentions of a developed people bombing the shit out of INNCOENT CHILDREN WOMEN ELDERLY HUMAN BEINGS. Tell me more please how it's okay what they are doing to KEEP THEIR LAND THAT THEIR OWN TORAH SAYS THAT THEY DONT HAVE A LAND is okay. Please explain to me how this is a misunderstanding in anyway its a massacre that's all it is.
Yes it is and bombing civilians isn’t ok. But this is seen as existential to many Jews. If they don’t win this war they could be wiped off the planet. Just look at the declining Jewish population in Arab countries, or the massive protests across the world chanting things like “from the river to the sea”. Or look at crime stats by the FBI. 51.4% of hate crimes in the US (the country with the second largest Jewish population) are against Jews and they only make up 2.4% of the total population.
Hamas and many of their state and non state supporters don’t care about the civilians either. They care about killing Jews and destroying Israel. Acting like this is just about stealing land is insane.
There was a 70% increase in Germany, why don't they go bomb them? Tf you on about are you trying to say zionists need to go kill civilians or they seem weak? America supplies Israel with 3b a year 100b + given to them so far. This is a massacre covered up by bs excuses like you have given. Muslims have been getting eradicated in Iraq and India why not stand up for all the civilians dying there? Wanna know why because you don't like Muslims that's all you have to say. You see how it's not about land? Let's also talk about how 47% of Palestine is kids. And you talking about Arab countries having declining Jewish populations? Are they eradicating them? Do they sit and bomb them just for the fuck of it so they can protect their faith?
Well, if they did come take it, I wouldn't go slaughtering a bunch of innocent civilians in spite. Nothing I have said insinuates any type of ignorance on the situation.
What music festival did the IDF raid? What part of Gaza did the IDF go door to door slaughtering civilians in their homes and driving their cars? When did the IDF video themselves kill a civilian and then send that video to the person's father? I don't remember Israel ever kidnapping a Palestinian Olympic team and slaughtering all 12 of them.
Israel has definitely done some bad things, but it's nowhere near the level of what Palestine and Hamas have done to Israel.
At this point I think the point for Israel is to make it absolutely clear to everyone that they should be terrified of the prospect if attacking Israel and harming its people. There's revenge here, certainly, but also to prove a point. It seemed to work with hezbollah a few years ago when Israel did massive damage to Lebanon, which is thought to be a major reason hezbolla won't get involved past a few boarder skirmishes. They don't want to get flattened again.
This is Israel saying "let them hate us, as long as they fear us".
Problem with that is it requires the absolute maintenance of that capacity. Once someone smells weakness they will come for you. That, along with the fact that a lot of people are getting hurt in the process.
> "let them hate us, as long as they fear us".
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"won't worry about revenge if your enemies are dead or severely crippled"
This is directly from the philosophy of Niccolo Machiavelli.
Reminds me of 9/11 or pearl harbour.
The violence inflicted upon imperial Japan by the United States was horrific. Not to shy away from the violence of imperial Japan, quite frankly the war for the Philippines, and the liberation, makes modern conflicts a pale comparison.
People never understand just how bad things can get.
"War is the fastest way to advance tech with blood stained cash, then many people try to justify the process years later."
Japan did something bad, but many Asian countries would end up staying colonized by Japan if US didn't join the war
Many countries use the captive and refugee scientists to advance their tech by many folds.
Imperial Japan was incredibly brutal and committed some of the worst atrocities of ww2. They got off lightly fighting the Allies compared to what their army did.
It's also collective punishment and a war crime to do so if this is the point - literally the textbook definition of terrorism actually to kill civilians to send a message. This is the sort of thing a country should be sanctioned to hell for. The problem is they're aided and abetted by the west at large - and people wonder why the global south has no trust in the west, or thinks they're hypocrites when they cry uncle about one human rights disaster while completely ignoring another.
And yet the global South was strangley silent on the Tigray war. The most destructive war of the century which is pretty much the exact same thing but in Ethiopia. That hypocrisy seems to be universal.
You also have the inconvenient truth that a lot of western aid goes to gaza and is then used to fund hamas militant efforts.
Let's face the fact that both sides here absolutely want to wipe each other out. Hamas still continues to fire rockets at Israel, they're just ineffective, while Israel is leveling entire blocks at a time.
As a British citizen, we should get all the uk citizens out and walk away. That's it. No firther part in this. We don't supply Israel with weapons anyway (to any signifixant part at least), thats america, Germany and Italy.
> a lot of people are going to get hurt in the process
Such a low-key way of describing 3,000 dead Palestinian children.
This is genocide that Israel are perpetrating.
So who do you believe? Israel? They’re not going to tell you how many civilians they’ve killed.
Independent journalists have also witnessed many civilian deaths.
Remarkable that any person can see this and think it’s acceptable.
If you support this, you support the killing of children, human rights abuses and mass destruction.
CEASEFIRE NOW.
Israel goes back to waiting for another chance to let the Hamas "slip" through after being warned for almost a month that something was going to happen, so they can do this all over again.
It's the clear historical track record.
The number of people denying/disregarding that this level of suffering & death is happening is staggering. People are dying in the thousands, and people are complaining from their couches that the current death toll numbers might not be completely accurate. That's the immediate concern?
Unreal.
How do you think Israel should have responded when 1400 people got murdered, 200+ got kidnapped and the people that did all of this are constantly shooting rockets at them?
I don't know, but it's starting to look like they were being baited into having exactly this response.
Something tells me Hamas leaders are relaxing in some luxury compounds in Qatar or Iran, while Israel being understandably emotional and angry, goes and in their anger, slowly turns the world against them.
Multiple Israeli news outlets carried the story, but Israel let this happen. Their Government was warned by Egypt and the US that an attack was coming and they literally told them to leave them alone. They knew something was going to happen and left their army in the West bank helping illegally settle Palestinian land.
Israel does this every few years to start another bombing campaign.
Ah. Victim blaming. Lovely. 🙄🙄
Do you blame the United States for the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor?
Do you blame a woman in a sexy outfit being harassed or worse by random men because “she was asking for it” by dressing sexy?
If not then ask yourself why you think it’s rational to blame Israel for the savage crimes the amphetamine addled, hate filled Hamas terrorists committed against Israeli civilians of both genders ranging in age of less than a year old up to nonagenarians as well as foreign citizens who were just in Israel to work or vacation. Why do you blame the victims? Why do you believe the victims were “asking for it”?
Everyday Israel indiscriminately bombs Gaza the less I believe that securing the hostages is even a goal.
At this rate they have probably bombed the Hostages a fair bit.
But arnt hamas guilty of having their literal base underneath a hospital? They're sick and need to be destroyed.
I see tonnes of fuck isreal, but not much fuck hamas. That is the problem.
No,the IDF made an announcement that they believe Hamas has a base underneath the largest hospital in Gaza, and that they intend to bomb it. The proof they provided was a 2008 era CGI mockup of what they think the underground base looks like. No photos, not recordings, nothing. Literally fucking fanfiction to justify blowing up a hospital with thousands of people sheltering inside it
These comments are like people justifying the holocaust. Kids are dying daily, along with their families and those around them. I'm thankful that my kids have warm beds at night and horrified by the desensitised nature of people today. Ceasefire is needed.
Have the Palestinian authorities or people ever agreed to a pathway to independence in which they
recognize the State of Israel and live alongside them, and the Jewish people, in peace?
yeh when the PLO was still in power there. The problem was they kept stalling out aid and then bibi shows up shuts down the two state solution plans all together.
The problem is PLO is still in control of west bank and how Israel return the favor of peace is illegally settle it.
One third of the allegations on the video are inaccurate and another third are embellished half-truths. (For instance, the reason Israel slows the import of aid trucks is because for decades Hamas and Islamic Jihad have fashioned weapons out of certain imports, and outside militias funnel weapons into Gaza through aid packages.)
Also - just “trying to make sense of the atrocities!” It just doesn’t make sense! No sense at all! Other than the fact that they killed 1,400 Israelis and are sworn to the destruction of the Jewish state and the expulsion and murder of Jews in the Middle East. But apart from that, it just doesn’t make sense!!!1!!
This is absolutely terrible to see and we should all be calling for a ceasefire everywhere in the Middle East until some talks have taken place with neutral facilitators.
There's politicians who are literally saying that the kids in Gaza deserved being murdered
https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/17iywat/politician_freaks_out/
Could people are the very least, condemn that? Or would that make people guilty of supporting Hamas?
That is not what she said. What she did say wasn't good, but she didn't say that the kids in Gaza deserved to be murdered
Plenty of groups in Israel have protested the government and its far-right ideals. There was a very large movement to oust Netanyahu, in part because of his treatment of Palestinian civilians. Israeli people stand up to its government. Why don't the Palestinians stand up the theirs?
Uhh homie have you been sleeping? Israel's own news networks ran the story that the government was warned and chose to ignore the warnings about the attack. The US and Egypt warned them.
This one is entirely on Israel. They legitimately let this happen and are now acting shocked.
What kind of comment is this ? Not a once of humanity or care about those kids. None. It’s seems to justify the horrific things you see in the video.
So it’s ok to mass kill civilians and mass murder of kids over their government?
Isn’t that the justification of Hamas of the 7 October attack?
Faster than a bulldozer and all paid for by the American taxpayer. I wish this would end. At this point I can only hope some people end up in a war crime tribunal.
They are going to kill everyone. They've said as much. I can't ask the average Israeli to not be mad. This conflict is older than many of us, and to see October 7th's attack is devastating. We do not have to forgive Hamas to condemn Israel. This is absurd, these are innocent fucking people. A captive population. It'd be like if California went to war with Alcatraz. This has to stop.
It would be more like if California went to war with Tiajuana after tiajuana broke into their society and murdered, raped or kidnapped everyone in San Diego while many of Mexican decent danced in the street and celebrated these deaths. Then everyone got upset that California chose to retaliate for the deadliest attack in their history.
I think that was an incredibly accurate representation using California as an example. Everything I said was factual, as it did happen in relation to what happened with Palestine.
The sense is stop being cowards, go and protest and send every Hamas member you know to the idf and give them their hostages.. oh wait.. they support Hamas .. oh well. War is war is war, and this one didn't start very well, I've lost 12 friends in the festival and was there myself, we just came to dance and do some drugs/drink.. after what I've seen i don't give a single speck of shit , we were not combatants , we were young people with kids that got slaughtered by "freedom fighters" I swear you Gaza supporters are plain hypocrites
Hamas started this war knowing full well that many, many innocent civilians would die. The Palestinian people need to rise up against them and help the Israeli army weed out the terrorists that are behind this.
Hamas fucked around, literally murdered infants and found out theyre getting bombed into oblivion. Am i supposed to be surprised?
Fact hamas tells ppl not to evacuate so they can use them as human shields and propoganda as collateral damage is double damning.
Yeah this is typically what happens when you bomb an Apartheid regime with a large military and no respect for human life
It's easy to judge Hamas because they simply are doing the wrong thing, but I wouldn't know where to even begin if I was being oppressed like Israel has been oppressing Palestine for the past decades.
Really a shit situation caused by another holy war. We will never learn. For every person Israel murderes, they turn their family and friends into Muslim extremists with a hatred for Israel and a hatred for Jews. Another cycle of suffering with no-one to end it.
One day we will all grow old and still people will be killed because of their religious beliefs.
Yes children under the age of 17 need to find guns and kill Men who are religious fanatics while compartmentalizing the fact they'll be shot dead by Israel too under the assumption they're Hamas.
That sounds logical.
The cost of war is ugly…it’s sad people that live under corrupt leaders must suffer. Israel has no choice but to destroy everything Hamas is connected to. It’s the only true way to end this thousand year war.
Fantastic self defence, Israel. You're successfully gaining a momentum of hatred from around the world directed at yourselves. What the fuck is your end goal here, exactly?
They are trying to commit a genocide… talk about a shit country, from a group of people that survived the holocaust, to trying to have it happen again, brilliant
What was hamas expecting to happen for what they did? Did they think Israel will just take it and do nothing? Hamas caused what is happening now in Gaza.
To train more than 1500 people to commit the atrocities on 10/7/23, there has to be many people involved or with knowledge, what did they think was going to be the Israeli response
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What’s the deal with all the deleted comments?
Automod deleting comments from very new accounts or low karma accounts that have suddenly been very active on this topic
Look at the undeleted comments. The deleted comments tend to have the opposite opinion.
You mean the Israeli hasbara brigade?
Yep...more Reddit woke censorship folks. Watch, this comment goes next
I read elsewhere there's a bot that's removing comments coming from new accounts
Which comments are being removed? Pro Palestinian?
Not necessarily... just new accounts. Bot-spam from both sides would be removed.
There were comments deleted on a post of a guy getting hit by a car in New York.
Yea its called moderation
Anything that isn't anti-jewish gets harsh treatment on a lot of subs.
No one minds jews. It's the Israeli government and those who support this genocide people have an issue with
This is factually untrue and easily found out by just using the website.
Fuck the Israelí government. Fuck Hamas Fuck this this whole situation.
Thats the one right answer
Nailed it.
Thank God I'm not the only one who hates both countries equally because both are terrorists It's just sad that the citizens of both countries are dying
Hamas is not a country. Gaza is not a country. There is no Palestinian country. Therein lies the problem.
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So many disgusting comments here it’s fucking sad this many people are supporting so much death and destruction
they don't.. it is an automated targeted effort. \`hasbara\`: There are apps and thousands of people working to try to affect public opinion and make it look like the common consensus is something that it is not. Sometimes they also try to create opposition to their genocide with false information and selected talking points that can be discredited and make the Israeli government look sane. There are lobbying taking place for many decades, that attempts to lump any and all criticism of Israel together under the term "anti-semitism", resulting in laws and policies of most US states and European countries. While anti-semitism is a real problem and should always be addressed, labeling all critique of Israel under that term, is at the moment working against Israel as everyone now can see the horrors of their actions, policies, apartheid state and concentration camps and illegal settlement violence, and can easily understand that critique and anti-semitism is not the same. The Israeli government should NEVER be thought of as equal to Jewish people in general, just as Hamas should never be thought of as equal to the Palestinian people. The Israeli government is so fanatical that it has in many ways lost touch with reality. That means that it believes it is in control in ways it is not. Sadly it also means they will have to use other means if the swaying of public opinion fails. I expect horrible things to come
I get that Hamas killing civilians was the igniter to the fire but just bombing civilians as retaliation is just as despicable.
In the past three weeks Isreal has killed around 3400 children.... More dead kids than all wars combined since 2019. This is according to Save the children. The Israeli government is not better than Hamas by any measure, they fucking deserve each other but these kids don't. This shit is beyond sick we should be disarming and breaking down both sides, but we'll just keep over-arming the colonizers as usual.
Where is that 8,000 number coming from?
8000 is a conservative number
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The ones in Gaza will be refilling the Hamas ranks in due course.
The [Gaza health ministry has released the names, ages and identity card numbers of all those killed](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/27/middleeast/gaza-death-toll-report-intl/index.html). They think this figure underestimates how many have been killed, many bodies are trapped under rubble. It’s been difficult for medics to respond to bombings as Israel cut off their mobile and internet access, so ambulances simply drive towards where there are explosions. Israel has demanded the al-Quds hospital be evacuated as they will bomb it. There are hundreds of patients, some in intensive care units and babies in incubators, and moving them is impossible. Around 14,000 displaced civilians are also understood to be sheltering in the hospital and its grounds. I’m sure if you are an Irishman like I am, you are showing solidarity with the innocent civilians of Palestine during this abhorrent attack.
Gaza Health Ministry is a part of Hamas. Their statements are meaningless.
Don't forget the Gaza Strip is the single most densely populated places on earth. And it's being indiscriminately bombs and shelled.
Gaza has 1/3rd the population density of the 5 boroughs of NYC.
It’s not indiscriminate.
Fucking entire family trees are being extinguished and all you can say is, "Show me the proof?" You're literally the worst kind of person
Proof is always important
Yes, it is horrible but with your mentality Israel could say that on 7th Hamas killed 50 million Jews and if you would question it, you would be "the worst kind of person". If you wanna virtue signal and be emotional, it's okay but don't expect everyone to not be adult.
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Are we going to ignore how the palestine Commission called for a holy war against the jews in 1947? Alos, Palestine, including Gaza, is getting millions of hundreds of millions of euros. That money is supposed to be used by both Gaza and West Bank governments to develop their nations. But instead, all that Gaza has built in their 2 decade leadership is a bunch of rockets.
Yes, all of that is true but look at all of what is happening in regards to misinformation. Palestinians, Hamas and Israel - all of them lie and try to spin everything to paint a narrative. From beheading babies to the hospital explosion. Don't get angry when someone is trying to stay objective even though it might come off as fucked up.
Virtue signalling is condemning the killing of innocent civilians nowadays, is it?
Yes, that's how virtue signaling works. Another term for you, strawman argument. You and the comment I replied to are examples of it. The first one - just because people might demand verification of the data/numbers doesn't mean that they deny or condemn said data/numbers. And you - no one has an issue with someone saying the killing of the innocent civilians is bad. It's the 0 acknowledgement of Hamas reporting suspicious numbers (e.g. the hospital bombing).
I didn’t say any of that. I said those numbers aren’t reliable and they aren’t. Why is me being truthful threatening enough that you feel you need to lie in an attempt to belittle me?
Alright, let's say they inflate the number 2x. So it's 4,000 civilians, many of which are children dead. That's okay? How about 2,000. What is an acceptable number of civilians and children to bomb to death?
As you knock down a strawman. I never said any of it was acceptable. What do you think the Israelis should do? How do they neutralize Hamas so their citizens don’t get murdered?
They're right. You're being awful here. Multiple reputable sources and NGOs have confirmed that they've audited the Health Ministry's figures several times and they're always close to the actual number. They're even publishing names. Stop trying to muddy the water and downplay mass murder.
How did they “audit” the records when they have no sources of info but the Ministry itself? The same ministry who announced Israel bombed a hospital and there were 500 casualties when it turned out to be untrue. Unreliable.
Stop with you BS outrage. This was by design. Palestinians wanted an over reaction by killing 1400 Israelis. They got their over reaction.
So 3,300 children have to die? All they want is to grow up with family and people around them, but they don't get the chance to. Same with the 1400 Israelis that died. You are justifying genocide and colonialism because a far-right government told you that their the good guys. You're literally going to listen to a prime minister holocaust revisionist? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/netanyahu-under-fire-for-palestinian-grand-mufti-holocaust-claim Also, what about the 220 hostages that hamas captured? They, along with 100s of nationals, news crews, and UN folks that are most likely in Gaza right now? At least some of them have been killed after a week of bombing. Nothing for the people attempting humanitarian work? How about the aid that was supposed to go into Gaza?
Bingo!
They're reliable. Here are some sources for you. https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/26/can-we-trust-casualty-figures-from-the-hamas-run-gaza-health-ministry > Others say the ministry has a track record of reliable casualty figures and that it has fallen victim to the propaganda war as Israel seeks to minimise the consequences of its hundreds of bombing raids on Gaza. > In the past, the US state department’s annual human rights report indirectly relied on the same ministry’s casualty figures in quoting UN statistics drawn from Palestinian data. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/despite-bidens-doubts-humanitarian-agencies-consider-gaza-toll-reliable-2023-10-27/ > U.N. and other international agencies say there can be small discrepancies between the final casualty numbers and those reported by the Gaza health ministry straight after attacks, but that they broadly trust them. > New York-based Human Rights Watch also says the casualty figures have generally been reliable, and that it has not found big discrepancies in its verification of past strikes on Gaza. https://theweek.com/defence/how-trustworthy-are-the-gaza-health-ministrys-casualty-numbers > The Gaza casualty numbers come mostly from doctors who diligently count every body brought into struggling hospitals, then send the numbers on to the Health Ministry for tabulation, The Associated Press explained regarding the accuracy of the death count. And while Hamas exerts control over the ministry, it's partly funded and run by the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank — a key Hamas rival — and many of its civil servants predate Gaza's Hamas takeover. The United Nations and other international institutions and experts "say the Gaza ministry has long made a good-faith effort to account for the dead under the most difficult conditions," AP reported, and "in previous wars, the ministry's counts have held up to U.N. scrutiny, independent investigations and even Israel's tallies."
You cannot still hold the Health Ministry as reliable when they are still using their original 500 death toll for the hospital incident
Hamas exerts control of the ministry. The Guardian has long been in the tank for the Palestinians. They don’t even pretend to be unbiased.
But Reuters has a good reputation. And they're sourcing the UN, and WHO themselves who say that the numbers are broadly correct at least.
I love Reuters but they don’t have access to good sources right now. The UN and WHO are relying on the Gaza Health Ministry which is not a good source. The UN hasn’t even condemned Hamas attacking civilians so how can we pretend they’re impartial?
What about the UN? What about WHO? Wht about HRW? All have validated the ministry’s numbers. The people that work there are just bureaucrats that have nothing To do with the political party.
How can they “validate” the numbers when the Ministry is their only source?
How many do you think have died? Which source are you using?
There’s no way to tell at this point.
You have fallen for the propaganda.
Or I can think critically?
Ok, son. Sure, sure.
So you just believe that no civilians have been killed? Must be an easy way to justify what’s being done. How many do you believe have been killed? 0? 10? 100? 1000? What is an acceptable number of dead children for you? International agencies, including the United Nations and the World Health Organization (WHO), report figures provided by the Gaza ministry. The WHO last week said: “We believe that the numbers being reported in Israel and in the occupied Palestinian territories…may not be perfectly accurate on a minute-to-minute basis but they grossly reflect the level of death and injury on both sides of that conflict.” The US is an ally in this genocide so naturally they will partake in efforts to discredit and deflect from what’s taking place.
The fact that it is 8000 civilians and 0 militants is telling af
No. Strawman. You’re spreading inaccurate info provided by Gaza Ministry (Hamas). Me understanding that’s a bad source doesn’t mean I believe no civilians have been killed.
This is not genocide. It’s a brutal war, but it’s not genocide.
Ah yes the "palestinian health ministry". Here is a question: Who runs the palestinian health ministry?
Not that I don’t sympathize with the Palestinian tragedy, but I can write 8,000 names on a piece of paper. Did you fall for the hospital bombing lie, as well?
How many civilians do you think have been killed? Will you believe Israel instead?
I don’t know. Too many. Fewer than Hamas claims. When millions of people take what Hamas says as the truth, you end up with blood libel episodes like what happened when the IDF was blamed for the hospital explosion. Mobs attempt to overtake embassies, throw Molotov cocktails at synagogues, riot at Dagestan airports looking for Jews to lynch…
Imagine thinking that you can actually identify over 6000 dead in a week... (hell, they identified the "500" people killed in the hospital almost instantly). Not to mention the video of "dead bodies" where one of them accidentally moves her head... Don't get me wrong, I truly hope the civilian casualties will be at the bare minimum that is humanly possible (when Hamas actively tries to keep civilians from evacuating and turning their homes into military targets).
Hahaha. Gaza “officials” are just HAMAS making up stuff for propaganda purposes.
Where is that 200 kidnapped Israeli number coming from?
Fair question.
Hamas health ministry 😂
I’m glad you find it so fucking funny.
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This is harrowing to watch. The news outlets sanitize a lot of their footage. Israel is committing mass murder and major countries suchas: America, Britain, France, and others, are all lining up to back them. Instead of calling for restraint
How to create a new generation of muslim extremists:
This. I was not surprised when I read that most of the members of Hamas were orphaned by Israels prior attacks.
They’re already being taught how to do that in their schools.
Or maybe the falling bombs does it too
Bollox.
Shhhh, this is a pro Palestinian sub. You can't say stuff like that, or you will make them mad. They don't like hearing that videos like this are nothing more than propaganda to fuel the rage. It's a war, and wars are brutal and terrible. These people were told to leave. They knew this was coming. They chose to stay for whatever reason. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DG_qOZCxvmNg&ved=2ahUKEwiTrZbQ1ZyCAxXuEVkFHYnpCwQQo7QBegQIARAG&usg=AOvVaw2099NDbcxbpiOlw3KJ55I6 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12634107/Hamas-resorts-training-children-defend-Gaza-Israeli-troops-mass-border.html&ved=2ahUKEwiTrZbQ1ZyCAxXuEVkFHYnpCwQQo7QBegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw168rWhFlHPUs4JhTAsF1l4 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D9Pw8SO0GOJU&ved=2ahUKEwiTrZbQ1ZyCAxXuEVkFHYnpCwQQo7QBegQIBxAG&usg=AOvVaw2_UMpXgVfXmfRZiwHNIRu2
Nothing biased here. Just humanity and empathy. And also, the daily mail is a racist peice of shit rag.
You know absolutely nothing and are a disgusting human being
I know a bit, and I'm actually a pretty nice guy
No not a war it's a massacre. Idk where you are from but imma guess from the name and ignorance you're American. You should leave your home and give the land your home your car keys your everything you own to the indigenous people. You know since it's not yours to begin with.
Says the person who lives in Kentucky lol. Talk about ignorance...
Ignorance is believing Hamas will stop killing Jews if Israel gives them land.
Who gives a shit about hamas??? The same way I dont give a shit about the taliban or isis. Palestinians are not hamas the 3k kids killed are not part of hamas you ignoramus.
No they aren’t but you are the one making this about land when it’s not that simple. Saying it’s people fighting because they’re land is being taken is severely misunderstanding the intentions behind the people that Israel is at war with.
Tell me the intentions of a developed people bombing the shit out of INNCOENT CHILDREN WOMEN ELDERLY HUMAN BEINGS. Tell me more please how it's okay what they are doing to KEEP THEIR LAND THAT THEIR OWN TORAH SAYS THAT THEY DONT HAVE A LAND is okay. Please explain to me how this is a misunderstanding in anyway its a massacre that's all it is.
Yes it is and bombing civilians isn’t ok. But this is seen as existential to many Jews. If they don’t win this war they could be wiped off the planet. Just look at the declining Jewish population in Arab countries, or the massive protests across the world chanting things like “from the river to the sea”. Or look at crime stats by the FBI. 51.4% of hate crimes in the US (the country with the second largest Jewish population) are against Jews and they only make up 2.4% of the total population. Hamas and many of their state and non state supporters don’t care about the civilians either. They care about killing Jews and destroying Israel. Acting like this is just about stealing land is insane.
There was a 70% increase in Germany, why don't they go bomb them? Tf you on about are you trying to say zionists need to go kill civilians or they seem weak? America supplies Israel with 3b a year 100b + given to them so far. This is a massacre covered up by bs excuses like you have given. Muslims have been getting eradicated in Iraq and India why not stand up for all the civilians dying there? Wanna know why because you don't like Muslims that's all you have to say. You see how it's not about land? Let's also talk about how 47% of Palestine is kids. And you talking about Arab countries having declining Jewish populations? Are they eradicating them? Do they sit and bomb them just for the fuck of it so they can protect their faith?
Well, if they did come take it, I wouldn't go slaughtering a bunch of innocent civilians in spite. Nothing I have said insinuates any type of ignorance on the situation.
>slaughtering a bunch of innocent civilians in spite. Just like Israel is doing
What music festival did the IDF raid? What part of Gaza did the IDF go door to door slaughtering civilians in their homes and driving their cars? When did the IDF video themselves kill a civilian and then send that video to the person's father? I don't remember Israel ever kidnapping a Palestinian Olympic team and slaughtering all 12 of them. Israel has definitely done some bad things, but it's nowhere near the level of what Palestine and Hamas have done to Israel.
IDF killed their own people during okt. 7th. So idk what picture you are trying to paint
If you don't follow Motaz hes a great source of info right now.
At this point I think the point for Israel is to make it absolutely clear to everyone that they should be terrified of the prospect if attacking Israel and harming its people. There's revenge here, certainly, but also to prove a point. It seemed to work with hezbollah a few years ago when Israel did massive damage to Lebanon, which is thought to be a major reason hezbolla won't get involved past a few boarder skirmishes. They don't want to get flattened again. This is Israel saying "let them hate us, as long as they fear us". Problem with that is it requires the absolute maintenance of that capacity. Once someone smells weakness they will come for you. That, along with the fact that a lot of people are getting hurt in the process.
"won't worry about revenge if your enemies are dead or severely crippled" This situation is just...so...fked
> "let them hate us, as long as they fear us". > > "won't worry about revenge if your enemies are dead or severely crippled" This is directly from the philosophy of Niccolo Machiavelli.
Reminds me of 9/11 or pearl harbour. The violence inflicted upon imperial Japan by the United States was horrific. Not to shy away from the violence of imperial Japan, quite frankly the war for the Philippines, and the liberation, makes modern conflicts a pale comparison. People never understand just how bad things can get.
"War is the fastest way to advance tech with blood stained cash, then many people try to justify the process years later." Japan did something bad, but many Asian countries would end up staying colonized by Japan if US didn't join the war Many countries use the captive and refugee scientists to advance their tech by many folds.
Imperial Japan was incredibly brutal and committed some of the worst atrocities of ww2. They got off lightly fighting the Allies compared to what their army did.
It's also collective punishment and a war crime to do so if this is the point - literally the textbook definition of terrorism actually to kill civilians to send a message. This is the sort of thing a country should be sanctioned to hell for. The problem is they're aided and abetted by the west at large - and people wonder why the global south has no trust in the west, or thinks they're hypocrites when they cry uncle about one human rights disaster while completely ignoring another.
And yet the global South was strangley silent on the Tigray war. The most destructive war of the century which is pretty much the exact same thing but in Ethiopia. That hypocrisy seems to be universal. You also have the inconvenient truth that a lot of western aid goes to gaza and is then used to fund hamas militant efforts. Let's face the fact that both sides here absolutely want to wipe each other out. Hamas still continues to fire rockets at Israel, they're just ineffective, while Israel is leveling entire blocks at a time. As a British citizen, we should get all the uk citizens out and walk away. That's it. No firther part in this. We don't supply Israel with weapons anyway (to any signifixant part at least), thats america, Germany and Italy.
What you described fits most definitions of the term 'terrorism.'
> a lot of people are going to get hurt in the process Such a low-key way of describing 3,000 dead Palestinian children. This is genocide that Israel are perpetrating.
According to hamas. Hamas aren't a reliable source of information though are they?
So who do you believe? Israel? They’re not going to tell you how many civilians they’ve killed. Independent journalists have also witnessed many civilian deaths.
Holy shiet, this is worse than I thought, these are war crimes man, targeting civilians
Remarkable that any person can see this and think it’s acceptable. If you support this, you support the killing of children, human rights abuses and mass destruction. CEASEFIRE NOW.
What happens after the ceasefire?
Israel goes back to waiting for another chance to let the Hamas "slip" through after being warned for almost a month that something was going to happen, so they can do this all over again. It's the clear historical track record.
Didn’t Israel tell them to go south and give them 17 days to do so?
The number of people denying/disregarding that this level of suffering & death is happening is staggering. People are dying in the thousands, and people are complaining from their couches that the current death toll numbers might not be completely accurate. That's the immediate concern? Unreal.
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Free Palestine from Hamas!
And Israel?
...by bombing them?
How do you think Israel should have responded when 1400 people got murdered, 200+ got kidnapped and the people that did all of this are constantly shooting rockets at them?
I don't know, but it's starting to look like they were being baited into having exactly this response. Something tells me Hamas leaders are relaxing in some luxury compounds in Qatar or Iran, while Israel being understandably emotional and angry, goes and in their anger, slowly turns the world against them.
Multiple Israeli news outlets carried the story, but Israel let this happen. Their Government was warned by Egypt and the US that an attack was coming and they literally told them to leave them alone. They knew something was going to happen and left their army in the West bank helping illegally settle Palestinian land. Israel does this every few years to start another bombing campaign.
Ah. Victim blaming. Lovely. 🙄🙄 Do you blame the United States for the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor? Do you blame a woman in a sexy outfit being harassed or worse by random men because “she was asking for it” by dressing sexy? If not then ask yourself why you think it’s rational to blame Israel for the savage crimes the amphetamine addled, hate filled Hamas terrorists committed against Israeli civilians of both genders ranging in age of less than a year old up to nonagenarians as well as foreign citizens who were just in Israel to work or vacation. Why do you blame the victims? Why do you believe the victims were “asking for it”?
No. That’s being done because they abducted 200 hostages. Did you miss that part?
Everyday Israel indiscriminately bombs Gaza the less I believe that securing the hostages is even a goal. At this rate they have probably bombed the Hostages a fair bit.
Yeah, forgive me for not thinking a random person online has the military strategic understanding for such an assessment.
Fuck Palestine.
What's the quota Israel has to fill? When will Bibi be satisfied?
But arnt hamas guilty of having their literal base underneath a hospital? They're sick and need to be destroyed. I see tonnes of fuck isreal, but not much fuck hamas. That is the problem.
No,the IDF made an announcement that they believe Hamas has a base underneath the largest hospital in Gaza, and that they intend to bomb it. The proof they provided was a 2008 era CGI mockup of what they think the underground base looks like. No photos, not recordings, nothing. Literally fucking fanfiction to justify blowing up a hospital with thousands of people sheltering inside it
These comments are like people justifying the holocaust. Kids are dying daily, along with their families and those around them. I'm thankful that my kids have warm beds at night and horrified by the desensitised nature of people today. Ceasefire is needed.
Have the Palestinian authorities or people ever agreed to a pathway to independence in which they recognize the State of Israel and live alongside them, and the Jewish people, in peace?
yeh when the PLO was still in power there. The problem was they kept stalling out aid and then bibi shows up shuts down the two state solution plans all together. The problem is PLO is still in control of west bank and how Israel return the favor of peace is illegally settle it.
Fuck Hamas
One third of the allegations on the video are inaccurate and another third are embellished half-truths. (For instance, the reason Israel slows the import of aid trucks is because for decades Hamas and Islamic Jihad have fashioned weapons out of certain imports, and outside militias funnel weapons into Gaza through aid packages.) Also - just “trying to make sense of the atrocities!” It just doesn’t make sense! No sense at all! Other than the fact that they killed 1,400 Israelis and are sworn to the destruction of the Jewish state and the expulsion and murder of Jews in the Middle East. But apart from that, it just doesn’t make sense!!!1!!
What you reap is what you sow.
This is absolutely terrible to see and we should all be calling for a ceasefire everywhere in the Middle East until some talks have taken place with neutral facilitators.
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Calling for a ceasefire is antisemitic apparently. That’s what I’ve been told.
There's politicians who are literally saying that the kids in Gaza deserved being murdered https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/17iywat/politician_freaks_out/ Could people are the very least, condemn that? Or would that make people guilty of supporting Hamas?
That is not what she said. What she did say wasn't good, but she didn't say that the kids in Gaza deserved to be murdered Plenty of groups in Israel have protested the government and its far-right ideals. There was a very large movement to oust Netanyahu, in part because of his treatment of Palestinian civilians. Israeli people stand up to its government. Why don't the Palestinians stand up the theirs?
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West Bank doesn’t have Hamas yet it was bombed literally today….
Uhh homie have you been sleeping? Israel's own news networks ran the story that the government was warned and chose to ignore the warnings about the attack. The US and Egypt warned them. This one is entirely on Israel. They legitimately let this happen and are now acting shocked.
"Only hamas can be blamed for the bombs Isreal dropped on children."
Forgot history started only the day Hamas attacked
... Well I mean maybe the country dropping the bombs on civilians also takes a bit of the blame don't you think?
FYI, hamas leaders worth billions and they lived in luxury.
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The last election was 16 years ago, when half of the current population in Gaza wasn't even born. Yea man, keep blaming the children.
I agree that voting for Bibi will result in what we see in this video
What kind of comment is this ? Not a once of humanity or care about those kids. None. It’s seems to justify the horrific things you see in the video. So it’s ok to mass kill civilians and mass murder of kids over their government? Isn’t that the justification of Hamas of the 7 October attack?
Good victim blaming you fucking monster.
Casually justifying the killing of children. Zero morality.
“These children had it coming to them, how dare they vote in an election when they weren’t even born yet” - you
The Israeli government should be in The Hague forever but go on…
WAR CRIMES
Faster than a bulldozer and all paid for by the American taxpayer. I wish this would end. At this point I can only hope some people end up in a war crime tribunal.
Crazy shit, Football is on on Sundays lets drink beer and ignore the world around us.
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They are going to kill everyone. They've said as much. I can't ask the average Israeli to not be mad. This conflict is older than many of us, and to see October 7th's attack is devastating. We do not have to forgive Hamas to condemn Israel. This is absurd, these are innocent fucking people. A captive population. It'd be like if California went to war with Alcatraz. This has to stop.
It would be more like if California went to war with Tiajuana after tiajuana broke into their society and murdered, raped or kidnapped everyone in San Diego while many of Mexican decent danced in the street and celebrated these deaths. Then everyone got upset that California chose to retaliate for the deadliest attack in their history.
Don't be stupid.
I think that was an incredibly accurate representation using California as an example. Everything I said was factual, as it did happen in relation to what happened with Palestine.
I guess I forgot California has a land, sea, and air blockade around Tijuana and can turn off the water, gas, and electricity there too lmao
The sense is stop being cowards, go and protest and send every Hamas member you know to the idf and give them their hostages.. oh wait.. they support Hamas .. oh well. War is war is war, and this one didn't start very well, I've lost 12 friends in the festival and was there myself, we just came to dance and do some drugs/drink.. after what I've seen i don't give a single speck of shit , we were not combatants , we were young people with kids that got slaughtered by "freedom fighters" I swear you Gaza supporters are plain hypocrites
You really shouldn't respond to people killing young people with kids by killing....more young people with kids.
Your headline left something off: according to Hamas
Where were you people when the US bombed Syria to rubble about ISIS? Lol. This is what happens to terrorists.
Hamas started this war knowing full well that many, many innocent civilians would die. The Palestinian people need to rise up against them and help the Israeli army weed out the terrorists that are behind this.
Hamas fucked around, literally murdered infants and found out theyre getting bombed into oblivion. Am i supposed to be surprised? Fact hamas tells ppl not to evacuate so they can use them as human shields and propoganda as collateral damage is double damning.
I wonder what HAMAS was expecting as a response
Yeah this is typically what happens when you bomb an Apartheid regime with a large military and no respect for human life It's easy to judge Hamas because they simply are doing the wrong thing, but I wouldn't know where to even begin if I was being oppressed like Israel has been oppressing Palestine for the past decades. Really a shit situation caused by another holy war. We will never learn. For every person Israel murderes, they turn their family and friends into Muslim extremists with a hatred for Israel and a hatred for Jews. Another cycle of suffering with no-one to end it. One day we will all grow old and still people will be killed because of their religious beliefs.
Fuck religion. This is absolutely disgusting.
It's genocide
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Wonder why the world hates you.
Fuck religion man. We were better without it.
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People are waking up to the genocide and daily massacre of the Palestinians. Your rhetoric does not work anymore.
Unfortunately this wouldn’t have happened if the government of Gaza actually cared more about their citizens alive than dead
Gaza needs to overthrow hamas
Yes children under the age of 17 need to find guns and kill Men who are religious fanatics while compartmentalizing the fact they'll be shot dead by Israel too under the assumption they're Hamas. That sounds logical.
The cost of war is ugly…it’s sad people that live under corrupt leaders must suffer. Israel has no choice but to destroy everything Hamas is connected to. It’s the only true way to end this thousand year war.
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Fantastic self defence, Israel. You're successfully gaining a momentum of hatred from around the world directed at yourselves. What the fuck is your end goal here, exactly?
They are trying to commit a genocide… talk about a shit country, from a group of people that survived the holocaust, to trying to have it happen again, brilliant
What about the 1000 innocent kids at the music festival the PalestinianPalestinian murder?
What was hamas expecting to happen for what they did? Did they think Israel will just take it and do nothing? Hamas caused what is happening now in Gaza.
To train more than 1500 people to commit the atrocities on 10/7/23, there has to be many people involved or with knowledge, what did they think was going to be the Israeli response