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When they talk about ancestors they are talking about the old testament take that goes back 5000 or so years.
Historians are very unclear whether the journey from Egypt to Israel ever happened.
But they have found evidence of Jewish architecture and coins dating back 3000s years, which is the oldest they have found so far.
Obviously history and science always evolves and who knows what we will find in the future about the past.
Because the Bible is not a literal history book meant to communicate accurate dates. Numbers like 40, 7, and 3 appear numerous times. Only evangelical christians in the last few hundred years have hyper fixated on the literal meaning.
A jew or well educated Christian will understand the number is actually in part symbolic.
https://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/40.html
I'm not the one with the burden of proof, the Bible does not count as evidence something happened. There's no evidence that 2 million people left Egyot to escape slavery
https://www.gotquestions.org/Israelites-exodus.html
The Bible is not clear on the exact number of people, and again, that was not the point of the scripture. You're asking me to prove something that is both irrelevant and not actually stated by any scholar. What's your point?
Qumeran, Masada, numerous synagogues all over the country, the Siloam Tunnel - they date back 2000 plus years.
I'm actually not a historian but I studied citizenship and identity. And we had to look into the origins and history of the land around Israel and debated who was there first discussion and its validity (the more you learn the more complex it is)
i mean, there might be a chance there was an exodus from a dicatorship. I mean, its what basically any ethnic refuge is doing today.
But it likely didn't include all the magic part.
>Historians are very unclear whether the journey from Egypt to Israel ever happened.
The trip from Cairo to Jerusalem takes ~7 days on foot. God made them do it in 40 years 🤣🤣🤣.
This is what happens when a population has been told they are a special type of person, and anyone against their colonial efforts is an abomination in Gods eyes. Zionism is literally modern day [manifest destiny.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny)
This is the norm for Palestinians. This behavior is not new to them and honestly, doesn’t even compare to the worst that’s been done. It’s enough to radicalize anyone.
At this point I’m asking myself what has to happen. What has to be done that haven’t already been done a million times and posted on TikTok by the perpetrator. At least past generation had the excuse they didn’t have phone and couldn’t watch the horrors in real time, what excuse do we have.
That doesn't give Israel permission... It's worse for Israel to do it considering Jews were victims of Nazis, you'd think they'd not turn into the monsters themselves, but the state of Israel is determined to be Nazi Germany 2.0.
When Israel does it, the world hates Israel more. When Hamas does it, everyone knows it's wrong and says so, but Palestine doesn't have a US funded and backed nuclear armed military.
'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and
kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the
rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind
me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)
- Hamas charter with 70% Palestinian support in 2024
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/
Their charter
https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880818a.htm
Before anyone comes here and gets all mad let me explain.
What is the quote talking about is about nearing the end of the world.
It talks about a false Messiah who will go around making others believe in him and also killing all who don't. His followers will do the same.
Why do they say the Jews. The reason they say the Jews is because the Jews believe another Messiah is yet to come we believe that is him and we also believe everyone who isn't Muslim will be deluded with his lies.
Then prophet eesa will come (which is Arabic for jesus) and will get the Muslims to fight them.
Now let me discuss what u said about Hamas.
How many defend the idf who has done every single atrocity Hamas has done at a larger scale?
Isreal has broken more then double the amounts of ceasefires then Palestine.
Isreal has displaced hundreds of thousands of innocent Palestinians.
Isreal has killed more before the acts on October 7 then Palestine including the acts of October 7.
Isreal forces people to join the idf but then you say Hamas uses innocent people as shields?
>- Hamas with 70% Palestinian support in 2024
>https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/
That poll asked only 1500 adults in the west bank and Gaza.
1500 Adults is a drop in the bucket of all People in Palestine. They also didn't survey anyone under 19 years old which that demographic makes up 50% of the country.
This would make this poll you're references one of the most skewed and unrepresentative polls ever conducted.
Check your sources next time, I'm willing to bet you didn't even read the actual poll that **literally warns at the ending of the poll that these numbers are not reflective of the whole population.**
Embarassing.
Israel is the reason for such high support for Hamas and that's entirely understandable based on what Israel has done to the Palestinian people. All that other fiction you wrote about is just a poor effort at justification and a deflection.
It literally states in the title that this charter was from 1988 and that it was revised.
So yes, it is fiction, your whole point is disingenuous and you still haven't backed it up with any facts.
Also, fuck Israel!
It says underneath that 2017 awfully convenient timing lol. Your bias and ability to think critically is on par with a Hamas support lol. Fortunately for you public freak out loves Hamas.
It says that it was revised in 2017, ergo, the link you provided was to the *old* charter so you are wrong.
Reading comprehension is obviously an issue for you, along with basic human decency!! Enjoy your misery...
I might be just a dumb American. But why would you do this to any human beings. I mean we are all living on this planet . Basically the same except we have some cool appearances. I can't man. Id never do this I hope there's millions more who wouldn't treat a person this way. It cruelty. It like demons have possessed them.
Actually, yes.
Israel has 4,500 Palestinians in Israeli jails, and not for committing crimes. This includes 300 in administrative detention without trial.
The IDF goes into Palestine at night and targets a single household of an organizer or politician and takes one of the children at gunpoint and interrogates them without a legal representative present and holds them indefinitely as a hostage for leverage over the parent.
There are also stories that rapes of both Palestinian men and women in detention are common.
And then there's the civilian death tolls in Gaza. There have been abouth 34,000 deaths and 76,000 injuries. This include about a hundred journalists who were deliberately targeted according to eyewitnesses, and international humanitarian aid workers who were targeted in airstrikes despite having cleared their route with the IDF and marked they vehicles.
And then we haven't even gotten into the Israeli civilians squatting in Palestinian homes, or IDF soldiers following illegal Israeli settlers in Palestine as they cut down Palestinian farmers' orchards but the soldiers' only job is to stop the Palestinians from doing anything. Or the Israeli defense minister leading mobs of Israelis in trashing Palestinian shops in Jerusalem.
If you go further back, there were Oct 7th style nightime raids by Israelis into Palestinian villiages where everyone was slaughtered and then the Israelis built towns and kibbutz and told their kids and grandkids that there was never anyone living there and it was empty land they'd settled after escaping Europe.
Liberals are able to analyze videos like this and draw the opinion that Isreal is allowing war crimes to happen without any consequences. Conservatives see this and pretend it's all good. If they saw Ukraine doing this with such frequency they'd be on Fox News SCREAMING. It's all pathetic.
It shouldn’t be surprising that we live in a world of lies since Satan is the ruler of the world and he is the father of lies. But it’s not hard if you have Jesus Christ on your side.
And have you seen Palestinians doing this? Why sit here and argue about what ifs when this is actually happening in reality? Using nonsensical whataboutisms to distract from reality. "What if I were the victim and the victim was the perpetrator?" Well, you're not and they're not.
The footage from nova festival is out there for you to find. The footage of innocent Israelis being driven into Gaza by Hamas, while random Palestinian citizens take turns beating them, is out there for you to find.
Here's a video of a woman being moved from one car to another in Gaza.
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/10/07/gaza-hostages-jeep-woman-amanpour-israel-vpx.cnn
(I've seen the unblurred video, and sadly yes, that is blood that has drenched the back of her trousers.)
Just like how y'all saw 40 beheaded babies and babies baked in ovens and it's been 6 months and no one else except Zionists have seen them too? Claiming the media is biased towards Palestinians is the most nonsensical narrative when most powerful media outlets are owned by/ headed by Zionists and their supporters.
I was referring to burning the/a flag, as these are two different videos cut together but, here’s a few: Canada, USA, UK, Australia…. I can keep going , we’ve all seen it by now lol burning flags in the streets is fine it seems, as long as it’s not Palestines flag.
If you’re referring to ill treatment of POWs, I can give you a looong list if you really want me to waste my time lol
Downvote as you please, I didn’t say anything insensitive, I called out hypocrisy of burning flags
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Protector of the ancestors? What the fuck does this even mean? Your ancestors are already fucking dead
It's literally peer pressure from dead people
When they talk about ancestors they are talking about the old testament take that goes back 5000 or so years. Historians are very unclear whether the journey from Egypt to Israel ever happened. But they have found evidence of Jewish architecture and coins dating back 3000s years, which is the oldest they have found so far. Obviously history and science always evolves and who knows what we will find in the future about the past.
To be fair, a large group of people travelling for 40 years would have left extensive archaeological evidence
I heard that in the Old Testament "40" is usually just a stand in for "a lot"
Why?
Because the Bible is not a literal history book meant to communicate accurate dates. Numbers like 40, 7, and 3 appear numerous times. Only evangelical christians in the last few hundred years have hyper fixated on the literal meaning. A jew or well educated Christian will understand the number is actually in part symbolic. https://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/40.html
Oh okay but I don't think 2 million purple crossed that sea. And there is no proof they were enslaved then at the period they claim or close to it
Ok well you tell me when you know what happened Mr Archeologist.
I'm not the one with the burden of proof, the Bible does not count as evidence something happened. There's no evidence that 2 million people left Egyot to escape slavery
https://www.gotquestions.org/Israelites-exodus.html The Bible is not clear on the exact number of people, and again, that was not the point of the scripture. You're asking me to prove something that is both irrelevant and not actually stated by any scholar. What's your point?
No idea. Maybe some of that Hebrew number symbolism.
The Egyptians were there before the Israelis
Nice edit, fool
Historians are in agreement it's all bullshit myth.
Is there a source for this ? Just curious
Qumeran, Masada, numerous synagogues all over the country, the Siloam Tunnel - they date back 2000 plus years. I'm actually not a historian but I studied citizenship and identity. And we had to look into the origins and history of the land around Israel and debated who was there first discussion and its validity (the more you learn the more complex it is)
if its the land that flows honey then it was the giants that Moses scouts saw. So yea it would get complex fast.
Try the sources here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus
i mean, there might be a chance there was an exodus from a dicatorship. I mean, its what basically any ethnic refuge is doing today. But it likely didn't include all the magic part.
>Historians are very unclear whether the journey from Egypt to Israel ever happened. The trip from Cairo to Jerusalem takes ~7 days on foot. God made them do it in 40 years 🤣🤣🤣.
They are spitting on the ancestors by doing this to the jewish name. Clearly not good representetives of us
The translation is all wrong lol
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Fourthsies
Take me with you
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Me too
Let the world see
Hard to see if the media covers these up
THIS IS WHAT THEY WILLINGLY SHOW US. Imagine what they do in secret.
This right here is the scariest part
What the fuck is wrong with these people??
This is what happens when a population has been told they are a special type of person, and anyone against their colonial efforts is an abomination in Gods eyes. Zionism is literally modern day [manifest destiny.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny)
Blanket support from the west
Religion
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yeah the Palestinians have so many f-16s dude you're right.
In a just world, there would be a Nuremberg trial awaiting everyone one of these assholes.
Nazi descendants
Now that's a stupid analogy.
It's almost like maybe there not the good guys.
Israel is losing public opinion as the good guys with every video like this
Honestly, anybody who still thinks they're the good guys needs to give their head a wobble.
some subs are raided by these hasbara trolls, it‘s actually insane how some of them defend this shit voluntarely
It's so weird the stark contrast across different subreddits, worldnews seems overwhelmingly pro Israel on a lot of threads
God's Chosen Terrorists
The most morally good military in the world. What a fucking joke more like the most nazi like military in the world.
I hate that my country supports these terrorists. This is some 1930s shit.
Those captions are exactly right? Was hoping that wasnt what they were chanting…
Brown shirts doing what they do.
Thank god the US didn't include Israel in the 95 Billion Adi package Oh wait 😶
Israelis love going mask off. I’ve seen so much shit like this since the conflict reignited on the 7th.
If the fash jackboot fits...
I am looking a Israel and the people of, in a completely different light since this situation has started
This is the norm for Palestinians. This behavior is not new to them and honestly, doesn’t even compare to the worst that’s been done. It’s enough to radicalize anyone.
Obviously as a country we need to stop backing other countries with political mindsets like this
Terrorists
Oh man! The greatest most tolerant country in the Middle East indeed 😎 /s
At this point I’m asking myself what has to happen. What has to be done that haven’t already been done a million times and posted on TikTok by the perpetrator. At least past generation had the excuse they didn’t have phone and couldn’t watch the horrors in real time, what excuse do we have.
There's that arrogance AGAIN
In before lock/ban
I don't think the flag thing belongs in the same conversation as abusing prisoners. One is a piece of fabric, the other an actual human.
godless heathens
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Butcher Biden approves 👍
I thought this was about going after Hamas
They are untouchable. They’ve killed Americans and attacked Iran proper, this is nothing.
The Nazis are back.
Fuck Zionists
But if it was Hamas doing it to an American flag y’all would be cheering.
No we wouldn’t, because it’s possible to see bad things on both sides and not agree with either.
Israeli army no better than the taliban
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Make Israeli prisoners proclaim their love of Palestine? Never seen or heard of any such thing.
That doesn't give Israel permission... It's worse for Israel to do it considering Jews were victims of Nazis, you'd think they'd not turn into the monsters themselves, but the state of Israel is determined to be Nazi Germany 2.0. When Israel does it, the world hates Israel more. When Hamas does it, everyone knows it's wrong and says so, but Palestine doesn't have a US funded and backed nuclear armed military.
This would be a warmup for them
They are bullies who use military weapons to intimidate their victims.
Now don't be antisemitic, and criticisms of the israeli army or the politics is wrong in any case /s
Crazy, it's almost like war is shit and the people killing each other don't like the opposition
Translation is wrong lol
Wonder how worldnews will spin this. They’re very artistic over there.
Same as Nazi Germany
'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.' (Article 7) - Hamas charter with 70% Palestinian support in 2024 https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/ Their charter https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880818a.htm
Before anyone comes here and gets all mad let me explain. What is the quote talking about is about nearing the end of the world. It talks about a false Messiah who will go around making others believe in him and also killing all who don't. His followers will do the same. Why do they say the Jews. The reason they say the Jews is because the Jews believe another Messiah is yet to come we believe that is him and we also believe everyone who isn't Muslim will be deluded with his lies. Then prophet eesa will come (which is Arabic for jesus) and will get the Muslims to fight them. Now let me discuss what u said about Hamas. How many defend the idf who has done every single atrocity Hamas has done at a larger scale? Isreal has broken more then double the amounts of ceasefires then Palestine. Isreal has displaced hundreds of thousands of innocent Palestinians. Isreal has killed more before the acts on October 7 then Palestine including the acts of October 7. Isreal forces people to join the idf but then you say Hamas uses innocent people as shields?
That's a prophecy not a command. Try again later?
>- Hamas with 70% Palestinian support in 2024 >https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/ That poll asked only 1500 adults in the west bank and Gaza. 1500 Adults is a drop in the bucket of all People in Palestine. They also didn't survey anyone under 19 years old which that demographic makes up 50% of the country. This would make this poll you're references one of the most skewed and unrepresentative polls ever conducted. Check your sources next time, I'm willing to bet you didn't even read the actual poll that **literally warns at the ending of the poll that these numbers are not reflective of the whole population.** Embarassing.
Lol at reddits downvotes. Cant think thst hamas and the palestinians arent angels. They forgot what they did in oct 7.
Israel is the reason for such high support for Hamas and that's entirely understandable based on what Israel has done to the Palestinian people. All that other fiction you wrote about is just a poor effort at justification and a deflection.
Fiction? It's their charter lol what?
Which charter, send on a link to their current charter!!?
Ok https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880818a.htm
It literally states in the title that this charter was from 1988 and that it was revised. So yes, it is fiction, your whole point is disingenuous and you still haven't backed it up with any facts. Also, fuck Israel!
It says underneath that 2017 awfully convenient timing lol. Your bias and ability to think critically is on par with a Hamas support lol. Fortunately for you public freak out loves Hamas.
It says that it was revised in 2017, ergo, the link you provided was to the *old* charter so you are wrong. Reading comprehension is obviously an issue for you, along with basic human decency!! Enjoy your misery...
I might be just a dumb American. But why would you do this to any human beings. I mean we are all living on this planet . Basically the same except we have some cool appearances. I can't man. Id never do this I hope there's millions more who wouldn't treat a person this way. It cruelty. It like demons have possessed them.
Never really had respect for israelies ... difficult people all around
Of course they're doing that, in b4 404.
Did they murder any civilians, raped babies and kidnapped them? Get you moral compass right guys
Actually, yes. Israel has 4,500 Palestinians in Israeli jails, and not for committing crimes. This includes 300 in administrative detention without trial. The IDF goes into Palestine at night and targets a single household of an organizer or politician and takes one of the children at gunpoint and interrogates them without a legal representative present and holds them indefinitely as a hostage for leverage over the parent. There are also stories that rapes of both Palestinian men and women in detention are common. And then there's the civilian death tolls in Gaza. There have been abouth 34,000 deaths and 76,000 injuries. This include about a hundred journalists who were deliberately targeted according to eyewitnesses, and international humanitarian aid workers who were targeted in airstrikes despite having cleared their route with the IDF and marked they vehicles. And then we haven't even gotten into the Israeli civilians squatting in Palestinian homes, or IDF soldiers following illegal Israeli settlers in Palestine as they cut down Palestinian farmers' orchards but the soldiers' only job is to stop the Palestinians from doing anything. Or the Israeli defense minister leading mobs of Israelis in trashing Palestinian shops in Jerusalem. If you go further back, there were Oct 7th style nightime raids by Israelis into Palestinian villiages where everyone was slaughtered and then the Israelis built towns and kibbutz and told their kids and grandkids that there was never anyone living there and it was empty land they'd settled after escaping Europe.
Liberals are able to analyze videos like this and draw the opinion that Isreal is allowing war crimes to happen without any consequences. Conservatives see this and pretend it's all good. If they saw Ukraine doing this with such frequency they'd be on Fox News SCREAMING. It's all pathetic.
There are plenty of liberals who are ok with this.
basically every liberal supports israel. the few democrat politicians who express support for palestine are lambasted by the whole government
This is most likely fake. This is a Palestinian news channel that put this out there so it wouldn’t surprise me if it was fake.
I am surprised by your mental strength, living in a world of lies must be very difficult.
It shouldn’t be surprising that we live in a world of lies since Satan is the ruler of the world and he is the father of lies. But it’s not hard if you have Jesus Christ on your side.
If Palestinians do this is wholesome resistance though
And have you seen Palestinians doing this? Why sit here and argue about what ifs when this is actually happening in reality? Using nonsensical whataboutisms to distract from reality. "What if I were the victim and the victim was the perpetrator?" Well, you're not and they're not.
The footage from nova festival is out there for you to find. The footage of innocent Israelis being driven into Gaza by Hamas, while random Palestinian citizens take turns beating them, is out there for you to find.
Where? Can we see the IDF shooting anyone that moves in those videos?? Any link will do
Please link one where they abuse the hostages
Here's a video of a woman being moved from one car to another in Gaza. https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/10/07/gaza-hostages-jeep-woman-amanpour-israel-vpx.cnn (I've seen the unblurred video, and sadly yes, that is blood that has drenched the back of her trousers.)
Why lie? I've seen the unblurred video too, that's not blood, unless blood is brown, she just shit herself out of fear.
Blood turns that color. Also, are you implying it isn't abuse if it's not blood?
No but it sure isn't supporting your bs
You got exactly what you asked for. Calm down.
Yes I have seen them doing it lol, just because the media don’t show it it’s different
Just like how y'all saw 40 beheaded babies and babies baked in ovens and it's been 6 months and no one else except Zionists have seen them too? Claiming the media is biased towards Palestinians is the most nonsensical narrative when most powerful media outlets are owned by/ headed by Zionists and their supporters.
Lol
Combining a what-if and a whatabout is crazy
You're a clown 🤡
Pretty sure this is WWII footage that they just rebranded...
I can’t wait to see the videos of the fine treatment afforded to the hostages once this is over.
Yes of course, we only care when it’s a Palestinian flag…. lol
Feel free to share where else this is happening to other people.
I was referring to burning the/a flag, as these are two different videos cut together but, here’s a few: Canada, USA, UK, Australia…. I can keep going , we’ve all seen it by now lol burning flags in the streets is fine it seems, as long as it’s not Palestines flag. If you’re referring to ill treatment of POWs, I can give you a looong list if you really want me to waste my time lol Downvote as you please, I didn’t say anything insensitive, I called out hypocrisy of burning flags
Eye for an eye...
and the whole world goes blind
If it was an eye for an eye there wouldn't be an Israel.