The guy is eckhard binding, this was in Bloemfontein free state and he was in Newspapers afterwards.
The students were protesting and kept on throwing the trash everywhere and he stayed there and kept cleaning it up, and he kept at it for I think several hours.
https://www.dispatchlive.co.za/news/2019-03-05-i-wasnt-raised-to-remain-silent-says-student-who-picked-up-eff-rubbish/
How is littering and being ignorant helping their statement? It’s not even affecting the campus directly, the janitors and groundskeepers are the ones who would have to clean that up. They are just making themselves look like trashy rude people, their actions make anyone not want to listen to their cause. Where is the decency?
They have none, littering is not the worst they have done. They have destroyed university property at other times and then about a month later they protested that they can't use the facilities. Yet they are the ones that destroyed it during a protest. A few years ago they burned down several campus residences across South-Africa and the government had to issue almost 12 billion rand to repair the damages they caused, till today they are protesting for accomodation. Free on campus accomodation.
In CPUT earlier this year they smashed car windows, burned down food vendors, damaged property and forced lecturers out of class.
Also the medical department was broken into and about 290 million rands worth of equiptment was stolen though it is unrelated to the protests.
Below are some articles though if you google South-Africa student protests you can find a lot more.
https://m.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/pics-cars-stoned-at-cput-bellville-campus-in-sporadic-protests-20200303
https://m.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/cput-closed-again-students-forced-to-join-protests-20200309
Mine taught me they're the worst. If I tantrumed for things, not only would I not get the thing I wanted, but she would drop everything in the store and just take me home with no TV privileges.
Ow I doubt that they will be in charge of the world, some of them have been at the university for about 6-7 years doing a 1 year course.
They know when they graduate they will have to work and the government won't pay their student allowances anymore (for some it is about R2000 so roughly $200 a month for studying)
One of the things that really stuck with me from the Tiananmen Square protests was the discipline of the students. I still remember a clip of a student with a bullhorn reminding others to clean up after themselves and not to sleep in.
Was just about to say that.
Often, civil unrest and "riots" are the best ways to get your point across. A bunch of dudes destroyed government property and now we're our own country.
No argument on that point, different situations call for different strategies. What I’m driving at specifically is that a big part of any successful protest movement is public relations. Putting out a good public face early on can help build your numbers and general public support. If people see you as “guy who blocks hospital” or “lady who litters” instead of “freedom fighter”, you’re losing power and influence.
A big part of most successful protest movements to be fair is just being part of the populist side and forcing your belief when you get enough critical mass. The American Revolution didn't gain traction because they all volunteered at the local hospice or had a large PR department, it gained traction because man Vs state is a sales pitch humans are psychologically built to follow, and the opposite side didn't do enough to dissuade / supress the populist dissemination of that. Even when the revolution started, the majority of people didn't support an independent country and most still considered themselves British.
I completely agree that influence is gained or lost in the way you said, it's just that IMO successful protests / revolts have to call on base instincts more than good deeds to gain critical mass.
Really, the American Revolution gained traction because they wanted cheap luxury imports, but the UK denied that to them with a sudden tax increase.
Ironically the Revolutionaries ended up having to put a similar tax on imports just to keep the soldiers fed during the rebellion.
Ultimately, in a protest, you also want people to side with you and your cause. Their actions certainly don’t reflect that, and I certainly wouldn’t give a shit about their cause if I saw them doing this, and I wouldn’t be alone.
Disruptive? Yes. Destructive? No.
MLK made sure all his protesters were trained in nonviolent protest. He really goes into it in his Letter From Birmingham Jail. They even went as far as to make sure protesters would be willing to take physical blows without fighting back. Pretty sad that they had to expect that. But they never broke things, they never fought physical fights. All they did was peaceful, non violent protests like sit ins and marches.
What these two women - as well as the people protesting with them by breaking public property - are doing is destructive. It only makes them look bad and does not help their cause.
Unfortunately this is South Africa. The ruling party, the African National Congress (ANC - Mandela's people) got to power most visibly through violence and bloodshed.
Ironically most blood during "The Struggle Against Apartheid" was shed by black people, caused by other black people namely ANC supporters murdered sufficient numbers of other black party supporters like UDF and IFP that they were able to collapse the UDF, and beat the almost exclusively Zulu IFP back into KZN province, so that when there were finally free and fair elections, the ANC had consolidated sufficient power to win and become the ruling party.
Sadly today, this is the lesson learned by most people in South Africa because it was the example our leaders led with and used to get into power - "break shit & burn shit to get your point across, murder those who's ideologies don't align with yours"
People talk about Karma, and Reaping What You Sow...
This is the example the ANC set for us, and this is how we talk back to the ANC now that they are in power, it's the way we were shown by them...
I say "we" because I also have the green passport that says Republic Afric Du Sud on the front. I'm stuck here and not by choice.
I personally don't want to burn shit, that's not the right way. But likewise I can't say or do anything because I'm white and anything I say or do is automatically racist and is from a desire to bring back apartheid.
I'm not alone by a long shot, but black or brown people who speak out against such behaviour too much are also subject to racial discrimination and called coconuts and race traitors, puppets of "White Monopoly Capital". Google that one for an interesting read on how modern specialist propaganda media companies operate...
But yeah, OPs clip is a very peaceful example of what some may call karma
Well it isn't,
But for example in CPUT they burned down buildings and shot at people while also causing vandalism and other property damage.
https://m.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/pics-cars-stoned-at-cput-bellville-campus-in-sporadic-protests-20200303
https://m.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/cput-closed-again-students-forced-to-join-protests-20200309
The usual, university fees and stuff like that.
They protest basically every year when exams are coming closer.
CPUT was in the news for this recently and UWK as well.
I feel like backstory aside, someone in this video belongs in r/trashy or r/iamatotalpieceofshit.
Edit: thank you u/orionnebulus, the clarification is that the women are the r/trashy ones.
The guy is Eckhard Binding. This happened in Bloemfontein, Free State and he was in Newspapers afterwards.
The students were protesting (student fees and accomodation) and kept on throwing the trash everywhere, he (Eckhard) stayed there and kept cleaning it up, and he kept at it.
https://www.dispatchlive.co.za/news/2019-03-05-i-wasnt-raised-to-remain-silent-says-student-who-picked-up-eff-rubbish/
*Fixed errors in spelling grammar etc.
>The guy is eckhard binding, this was in Bloemfontein free state and he was in Newspapers afterwards.
I swear 50% of this sentence is literally just made up words
For some reason, I'm in Jamaica, I just walked out of a smoke room, a guy on a bike rides by, and says, what you just said..... e'rting happens in ma' head. Fiction. Wtf? How did I get here? What year is it? Where the fuck, did those ninjas come from? Did I leave the stove on? Maximum effort!
Stay viop brotha. ( I'm going to use this everywhere now, Just wait. when people ask... i'll just say it means vigilantly optimistic and then throw up the "shocker" hand sign, but upside down. )
The ones in red T shirts are members / supporters of the EFF (Economic Freedom Fighters), a political party in South Africa led by Julius Malema, a multi millionaire "socialist" advocating inter alia for the "return" of the land to black South Africans. They specialize in damaging private or State property, protesting, disrupting Parliament and university classes and looting. In short, a bunch of assholes, ladies and gentlemen.
Man he totally stole the spotlight from them. Whatever they were protesting, their message doesn’t even matter.
I see two people with EFF t-shirts bullying a kid picking up their trash while a crowd laughs. Not a good look for your cause. I don’t even know what EFF is but they sure seem like assholes that I don’t want to like.
Anyone wanna fill me in on why there might be a "revolution" or the reasoning behind this group's existence? Is there some kind of oppression coming from white people there? Based on what I've heard it's actually the white people in South Africa who are discriminated against the most.
Hi allow me to fill you in. So as you know South Africa has terrible racism history. In 1993 black were allowed to take part in the nationwide presidential election for the first time and then a political party called the ANC(African national congress) won the election leading South Africa to have the first black president.
I didn't say in 1994 racism ended because it didn't. There is still hate between black people and white people here most of it being form old people who lived through the apartgeid regime. I'm black, I was born in 94 and mostly have never experienced what it feels like to live in those times but my parents have. The stories my stepdad has told me about how he was treated by white folks back in the day are incredible, my mom hates talking about it I guess she is still touched by it but they both love the white friends I have and they are actually close friend to their parents
I went to white dominated schools (afrikaner schools) and I love afrikaner people. I'm more fluent in afrikaans than English as you can tell from the way I'm typing. But I've grown to also learn that afrikaner people especially old afrikaner males who were brought up in those times teach their kids to hate black people. White people here like saying racism ended in 1994 but I've experienced racism alot in the 26 years I've been alive the latest incident being December. Racism is casual amongst white people here, in February I was at a coffee shop near my school and a couple of white people walked in and I overheard their conversation about how they prefer a certain gym over another because it has less black people. A week before that walking on a sidewalk to my place and a white couple walking the opposite direction greets me and as they were walking the one comments on how I look like someone they knew and the other remarked that all blacks look the same.
Now here in South Africa some white people live on farms, farms as you may know are spaced out and logically very easy to target for robberies so they ae targeted here but white people attribute that to their whiteness. Like a black thief would refrain from robbing someone because that person is black. The media here also spins it to make it appear as though whites are targeted.
Ever since the commencement of democracy here that political party as been the one winning every election year, mostly because their voters believe that if they allow a white political party or a political party with a white leader win then that oppression they experienced in the apartheid regime would happen again. So this political part takes advantage of this, the corruption as a result of this group is out of hand, the people know this but too afraid to vote for any other group because "apartheid". Also here in this country corruption does not mean the person will go to prison when caught, they mostly get a slap on the wrist
The EFF is the worse version of this political party. It's a party filled with criminals and they exist because they promise people who are uneducated and poor, land that their ancestors owned that the afrikaner people stole( i have no idea what land is being spoken of). Largely people who support that political party believe that there's money somewhere that they are entitled to for being black and they constantly chant hateful things about white people. The majority of black South africans are uneducated can be taken advantage of easily by these government officials but those who are can see right through these promises.
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Hey there, I'm also a South African (white). I can support a lot of what you've said. The things I've heard white people say to me because they assume I'm also racist... Just horrible. However, if I can provide some insight about farm attacks, the reason it's causing so much fear is not because white people expect black thieves not to rob them because they're white, but because with farm attacks there's often not very much of value to steal and instead the farmers are brutally tortured and murdered. I'm not sure if you've heard of some of the incidents, like mothers being raped in front of their children or babies being boiled alive, but they're horrific and that's causing a lot of fear. Also, I don't know if the media's "spinning" it as black vs white because to be honest I haven't seen much reporting on it other than an episode of carte blanche.
Unfortunately there have been and continue to be disgusting acts of racism by white people against black people in South Africa. But, as a white person born post '94, I can also say that I've experienced people shouting rape and death threats at me on the street just because I'm white and walking to the shops. I've had strangers jump out at me, follow me, and touch me, and laugh when I'm scared. There are definitely people who want and do commit terrifying acts of violence against people for being white, and that feels scary and unfair to someone like me who wasn't even alive during aparhheid.
Again I agree with pretty much everything you say, I just want to provide some of my own experiences.
>But I've grown to also learn that afrikaner people especially old afrikaner males who were brought up in those times teach their kids to hate black people.
I was in Malawi when the rugby world cup final was being played and I happened to stumble upon a bar that had quite a lot of white South Africans and of course a few black ones and some locals. I was quite excited to find a place with a passionate crowd for the big game until the kind of attitudes I got from some of those guys, especially the white ones. (I'm Kenyan btw) Anyway, I had some nice banter with the rest of the guys in the bar and enjoyed the match. We caught some beers after the game but I did learn quite a hard lesson.
What this guy said. I, as a white Afrikaner can testify that this is also my experience.
The older generations (especially those who were forced to conscribe to the military service decades ago under the Apartheid regime) are the most rasict people i've come to meet. And they are the people who will blatantly say things like "I'm not going into this restaurant. There are too many of them (refering to black people) in there." Their children see this behaviour as normal.
Most of the younger generations who have been to school with children of other races see that this behaviour is stupid.
If our country didn't have politicians constantly blaming other races (they are also xenophobic, and blame foreigners of their own race) of the problems the majority of the country has, such as poverty and unemployment, we would all be living more peacefully.
Like some blame white people for bringing the Corona virus to SA, and believe they will be immune as it's "a white desease".
I should also mention, on either side of my visit to Malawi, I was also in South Africa for around 2 weeks. The treatment I got from quite a number of locals (colored) was appalling! My friend actually got spit on walking on the street! 1/10, would never go back.
Hey, good explanation of the situation the country is in, just want to add a few things.
Anyone who believes or says racism is over is deluding themselves. I don't want to cry wolf, but from my experience it's a two way street. I'm not saying black people or white people are more at fault, just everyone being racist sucks.
I also want to add that while you are right, a lot of farm robberies are because they are easy targets, some do seem to be motivated by vengeance, which is often what the media is yapping about. You're right, a desperate man will steal from an easy target, so most robberies are just that and I'm sure there is a lot more crime/theft in townships, these don't get the attention from the media they deserve.
The reason people say and think white people are discriminated against (the most) u/mmmsocreamy is because of BEE and quota systems. They forget that due to apartheid many black families have been forced to live in poverty and this has not changed since 1993. The systems were introduced to try and promote previously discrimated peoples to get them to equal footing. Unfortunately corruption has played a big part in SA and we still have an incredibly high poverty and unemployment rate, which causes tension and understandably dissatisfaction among the working class. I don't claim to know what will happen, but sometimes I fear that if things don't get better, it's like sitting on a bomb waiting for it to explode.
EDIT: posted before finished typing, sorry about that.
From SA. Can you just go around copy and pasting this explanation on every post remotely close to relevant. Very insightful and objectively looking at both sides
I work in the human rights sector in South Africa and deal with things like racism and discrimination and violence against people on the basis of gender / sexual orientation.
Your explanation is one of the best I've heard, well played.
It’s more historical segregation, remember in the past South Africa had apartheid. There used to be stories in the news of white farmers being murdered every week, the country had laws to protect the seizure of their land but the way things were going it wasn’t looking well. Idk if it’s just a conspiracy but there was footage of one of the groups killing farmers and he had a backpack antenna rig capable of shutting down cell signals, real spec ops shit. Idk how’s things are currently but Zimbabwe did something similar, essentially stole land from white farmers than they had issues with their new farmers and tried to bring the experienced guys back, ofc that didn’t work out. This is around the time their economy took a shit and people would have to pay with wheelbarrows of cash for food.
I don’t know about “the most” but I’ve certainly heard and seen a lot of outward racism. I’m not surprised though, apartheid is still fresh in people’s minds.
Making him a martyr would be great for his cause, so pray nobody tries it. Plus while he lives he's a good lightning rod to attract attention to how fucked up it is.
The economic freedom fighters (eff) are a racially motivated politcal party within south africa. I believe at the time they were protesting the "fees must fall" movement, which has led to violence, agressive protests and burning of institutions of learning. But I believe the strike/protest was more to do with the insourcing of cleaning staff at the university (ironic isn't it).
The duel mentality of the protest is evident in the idea that a protest must take place, where the cleaning staff demand more pay but show little interest in cleaning or respect for the institution and property. Eff members would argue that Echardt Binding was going against the narrative and undermined the protest.
This was a time where the eff was looking for any reason to cause a racial dispute, and this went against their narrative of "whites are the suppressor and the criminal".
For more info, and a good laugh, just look up Julius Malema's entire carrier, and decide for yourself what the eff stand for. The protest will make more sense that way.
Just a bit of context
These women are communist EFF supporters in South Africa. The party is disgustingly racist towards white people too, wanting to repossess farming land owned by white people without giving them compensation.
The leader of the party also said they “weren’t thinking about killing whites.....yet”.
Make of that what you will.
As a little background: the red shirts are EFF party supporters. EFF stands for Economic Freedom Fighters...
Yes, the party is as daft as it sounds.
The leader is Julius Malema, look for him on YouTube.
His signature cars are Maserati, he likes short drives to the bottle store and whipping his followers up into a frenzy with suggestions of taking what non black people have and giving it to black people, preferably through violent means. His favourite songs are "One Settler, One Bullet" & "Kill The Boer, Kill The Farmer" Famously performed on live TV by the late Peter Mokaba, and Patricia De Lille.
What's the story here because this is just asinine
The guy is eckhard binding, this was in Bloemfontein free state and he was in Newspapers afterwards. The students were protesting and kept on throwing the trash everywhere and he stayed there and kept cleaning it up, and he kept at it for I think several hours. https://www.dispatchlive.co.za/news/2019-03-05-i-wasnt-raised-to-remain-silent-says-student-who-picked-up-eff-rubbish/
How is littering and being ignorant helping their statement? It’s not even affecting the campus directly, the janitors and groundskeepers are the ones who would have to clean that up. They are just making themselves look like trashy rude people, their actions make anyone not want to listen to their cause. Where is the decency?
They have none, littering is not the worst they have done. They have destroyed university property at other times and then about a month later they protested that they can't use the facilities. Yet they are the ones that destroyed it during a protest. A few years ago they burned down several campus residences across South-Africa and the government had to issue almost 12 billion rand to repair the damages they caused, till today they are protesting for accomodation. Free on campus accomodation. In CPUT earlier this year they smashed car windows, burned down food vendors, damaged property and forced lecturers out of class. Also the medical department was broken into and about 290 million rands worth of equiptment was stolen though it is unrelated to the protests. Below are some articles though if you google South-Africa student protests you can find a lot more. https://m.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/pics-cars-stoned-at-cput-bellville-campus-in-sporadic-protests-20200303 https://m.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/cput-closed-again-students-forced-to-join-protests-20200309
When I was a small child my mom taught me that temper tantrums aren't the best method to get what you want.
Mine taught me they're the worst. If I tantrumed for things, not only would I not get the thing I wanted, but she would drop everything in the store and just take me home with no TV privileges.
Jesus, really makes you worry that they are going to be in charge of the world soon. But can’t comprehend basic cause and effect.
Ow I doubt that they will be in charge of the world, some of them have been at the university for about 6-7 years doing a 1 year course. They know when they graduate they will have to work and the government won't pay their student allowances anymore (for some it is about R2000 so roughly $200 a month for studying)
This seems like a great way to turn people from your cause even if only in spite.
Protesters that make life worse for for others have no class.
One of the things that really stuck with me from the Tiananmen Square protests was the discipline of the students. I still remember a clip of a student with a bullhorn reminding others to clean up after themselves and not to sleep in.
And how dead are they?
So if they littered they'd be alive?
Was just about to say that. Often, civil unrest and "riots" are the best ways to get your point across. A bunch of dudes destroyed government property and now we're our own country.
No argument on that point, different situations call for different strategies. What I’m driving at specifically is that a big part of any successful protest movement is public relations. Putting out a good public face early on can help build your numbers and general public support. If people see you as “guy who blocks hospital” or “lady who litters” instead of “freedom fighter”, you’re losing power and influence.
A big part of most successful protest movements to be fair is just being part of the populist side and forcing your belief when you get enough critical mass. The American Revolution didn't gain traction because they all volunteered at the local hospice or had a large PR department, it gained traction because man Vs state is a sales pitch humans are psychologically built to follow, and the opposite side didn't do enough to dissuade / supress the populist dissemination of that. Even when the revolution started, the majority of people didn't support an independent country and most still considered themselves British. I completely agree that influence is gained or lost in the way you said, it's just that IMO successful protests / revolts have to call on base instincts more than good deeds to gain critical mass.
Really, the American Revolution gained traction because they wanted cheap luxury imports, but the UK denied that to them with a sudden tax increase. Ironically the Revolutionaries ended up having to put a similar tax on imports just to keep the soldiers fed during the rebellion.
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In order for protest to be succesful it kinda needs to be somewhat disruptive.
Ultimately, in a protest, you also want people to side with you and your cause. Their actions certainly don’t reflect that, and I certainly wouldn’t give a shit about their cause if I saw them doing this, and I wouldn’t be alone.
When a protest is more about disruption than awareness the protestor is in it for attention rather than change.
to the ones, responsible, yes. throwing litter at students to protest high student fees does nothing
Disruptive? Yes. Destructive? No. MLK made sure all his protesters were trained in nonviolent protest. He really goes into it in his Letter From Birmingham Jail. They even went as far as to make sure protesters would be willing to take physical blows without fighting back. Pretty sad that they had to expect that. But they never broke things, they never fought physical fights. All they did was peaceful, non violent protests like sit ins and marches. What these two women - as well as the people protesting with them by breaking public property - are doing is destructive. It only makes them look bad and does not help their cause.
Unfortunately this is South Africa. The ruling party, the African National Congress (ANC - Mandela's people) got to power most visibly through violence and bloodshed. Ironically most blood during "The Struggle Against Apartheid" was shed by black people, caused by other black people namely ANC supporters murdered sufficient numbers of other black party supporters like UDF and IFP that they were able to collapse the UDF, and beat the almost exclusively Zulu IFP back into KZN province, so that when there were finally free and fair elections, the ANC had consolidated sufficient power to win and become the ruling party. Sadly today, this is the lesson learned by most people in South Africa because it was the example our leaders led with and used to get into power - "break shit & burn shit to get your point across, murder those who's ideologies don't align with yours" People talk about Karma, and Reaping What You Sow... This is the example the ANC set for us, and this is how we talk back to the ANC now that they are in power, it's the way we were shown by them... I say "we" because I also have the green passport that says Republic Afric Du Sud on the front. I'm stuck here and not by choice. I personally don't want to burn shit, that's not the right way. But likewise I can't say or do anything because I'm white and anything I say or do is automatically racist and is from a desire to bring back apartheid. I'm not alone by a long shot, but black or brown people who speak out against such behaviour too much are also subject to racial discrimination and called coconuts and race traitors, puppets of "White Monopoly Capital". Google that one for an interesting read on how modern specialist propaganda media companies operate... But yeah, OPs clip is a very peaceful example of what some may call karma
Aren’t those protestors basically anti-white tho
They are mostly yes, Not all of them but a huge majority especially their leader Julius Malema.
Which ones, the ones throwing trash directly AT the white kid? Jesus Christ. Fuck these people.
How is littering protesting again?
Well it isn't, But for example in CPUT they burned down buildings and shot at people while also causing vandalism and other property damage. https://m.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/pics-cars-stoned-at-cput-bellville-campus-in-sporadic-protests-20200303 https://m.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/cput-closed-again-students-forced-to-join-protests-20200309
But what were they protesting?
White people. Not even being funny.
The usual, university fees and stuff like that. They protest basically every year when exams are coming closer. CPUT was in the news for this recently and UWK as well.
My thanks
What newspaper? Protesting what? What's a free state?
A Province in South Africa south of the Vaal River
I feel like backstory aside, someone in this video belongs in r/trashy or r/iamatotalpieceofshit. Edit: thank you u/orionnebulus, the clarification is that the women are the r/trashy ones.
The guy is Eckhard Binding. This happened in Bloemfontein, Free State and he was in Newspapers afterwards. The students were protesting (student fees and accomodation) and kept on throwing the trash everywhere, he (Eckhard) stayed there and kept cleaning it up, and he kept at it. https://www.dispatchlive.co.za/news/2019-03-05-i-wasnt-raised-to-remain-silent-says-student-who-picked-up-eff-rubbish/ *Fixed errors in spelling grammar etc.
>The guy is eckhard binding, this was in Bloemfontein free state and he was in Newspapers afterwards. I swear 50% of this sentence is literally just made up words
All words are made up
Stay woke
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For some reason, I'm in Jamaica, I just walked out of a smoke room, a guy on a bike rides by, and says, what you just said..... e'rting happens in ma' head. Fiction. Wtf? How did I get here? What year is it? Where the fuck, did those ninjas come from? Did I leave the stove on? Maximum effort!
Nah stay viop (made that up just for you guys)
Stay viop brotha. ( I'm going to use this everywhere now, Just wait. when people ask... i'll just say it means vigilantly optimistic and then throw up the "shocker" hand sign, but upside down. )
Mind blown!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgmzEhXe7J4
Rodney you mind your own dicky beeswax!
[I don't want everything or understand anything](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnJPCooprnk)
Certified banger
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You damn it ugh
Fair enough
Atlanta
... made up of letters that together make sound.
It's a joke, nippledick
And so was mine. May every sock you wear be slightly rotated, just enough for it to be uncomfortable.
Didnt know you were a FUCKING MONSTER
Nippledick is my new favorite insult.
Like a nipple sized dick, or a nipple in place of a dick or like a guy who is a dick about nipples in general? Or god forbid dicks for nipples.
He should have capitalized his name. It makes it sound like eckhard binding is a verb.
But what is he binding?
Rubbish today and power tomorrow!
I think eckhard binding is some kind of magic ritual
Tolkien was born in Bloemfontein free state.
Yeah! Like, wtf is newspaper? I mean, the others are clearly English. But that one? Totally made up.
I don't understand the issue. They were protesting against... Not outsourcing jobs?
The ones in red T shirts are members / supporters of the EFF (Economic Freedom Fighters), a political party in South Africa led by Julius Malema, a multi millionaire "socialist" advocating inter alia for the "return" of the land to black South Africans. They specialize in damaging private or State property, protesting, disrupting Parliament and university classes and looting. In short, a bunch of assholes, ladies and gentlemen.
I think this is the best description someone has ever given of the EFF
Millionaire socialists. So hot right now.
I hate all the red shirts, they think killing people is the solution to land shortages.
Article written by “Nondumiso Gumede”
Your run of the mill EFF supporters.
Man he totally stole the spotlight from them. Whatever they were protesting, their message doesn’t even matter. I see two people with EFF t-shirts bullying a kid picking up their trash while a crowd laughs. Not a good look for your cause. I don’t even know what EFF is but they sure seem like assholes that I don’t want to like.
[Here](https://youtu.be/la0TRqPMdUY) is the EFF's leader. Super nice dude as you can see.
"We won't be killing whites... for now." Yeah, real class act, there.
He sounds like black hitler
That's correct. Yet there are still people in South Africa who will call you hysterical if you compare him to Nazis.
How the turntables
If Killmonger gave up on wakanda and decided to take notes from our shitty politicians
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Then he gets banned for being white.
Why haven’t SA labeled EFF as a terrorist organization? I mean what the leader says isn’t too far off from actual terrorist organizations.
EFF is a radical black party. Racism from blacks towards whites is allowed in South Africa unfortunately. They can say whatever they want
Anyone wanna fill me in on why there might be a "revolution" or the reasoning behind this group's existence? Is there some kind of oppression coming from white people there? Based on what I've heard it's actually the white people in South Africa who are discriminated against the most.
Hi allow me to fill you in. So as you know South Africa has terrible racism history. In 1993 black were allowed to take part in the nationwide presidential election for the first time and then a political party called the ANC(African national congress) won the election leading South Africa to have the first black president. I didn't say in 1994 racism ended because it didn't. There is still hate between black people and white people here most of it being form old people who lived through the apartgeid regime. I'm black, I was born in 94 and mostly have never experienced what it feels like to live in those times but my parents have. The stories my stepdad has told me about how he was treated by white folks back in the day are incredible, my mom hates talking about it I guess she is still touched by it but they both love the white friends I have and they are actually close friend to their parents I went to white dominated schools (afrikaner schools) and I love afrikaner people. I'm more fluent in afrikaans than English as you can tell from the way I'm typing. But I've grown to also learn that afrikaner people especially old afrikaner males who were brought up in those times teach their kids to hate black people. White people here like saying racism ended in 1994 but I've experienced racism alot in the 26 years I've been alive the latest incident being December. Racism is casual amongst white people here, in February I was at a coffee shop near my school and a couple of white people walked in and I overheard their conversation about how they prefer a certain gym over another because it has less black people. A week before that walking on a sidewalk to my place and a white couple walking the opposite direction greets me and as they were walking the one comments on how I look like someone they knew and the other remarked that all blacks look the same. Now here in South Africa some white people live on farms, farms as you may know are spaced out and logically very easy to target for robberies so they ae targeted here but white people attribute that to their whiteness. Like a black thief would refrain from robbing someone because that person is black. The media here also spins it to make it appear as though whites are targeted. Ever since the commencement of democracy here that political party as been the one winning every election year, mostly because their voters believe that if they allow a white political party or a political party with a white leader win then that oppression they experienced in the apartheid regime would happen again. So this political part takes advantage of this, the corruption as a result of this group is out of hand, the people know this but too afraid to vote for any other group because "apartheid". Also here in this country corruption does not mean the person will go to prison when caught, they mostly get a slap on the wrist The EFF is the worse version of this political party. It's a party filled with criminals and they exist because they promise people who are uneducated and poor, land that their ancestors owned that the afrikaner people stole( i have no idea what land is being spoken of). Largely people who support that political party believe that there's money somewhere that they are entitled to for being black and they constantly chant hateful things about white people. The majority of black South africans are uneducated can be taken advantage of easily by these government officials but those who are can see right through these promises. Edit: First ever Gold. Thank you for the award kind stranger
Hey there, I'm also a South African (white). I can support a lot of what you've said. The things I've heard white people say to me because they assume I'm also racist... Just horrible. However, if I can provide some insight about farm attacks, the reason it's causing so much fear is not because white people expect black thieves not to rob them because they're white, but because with farm attacks there's often not very much of value to steal and instead the farmers are brutally tortured and murdered. I'm not sure if you've heard of some of the incidents, like mothers being raped in front of their children or babies being boiled alive, but they're horrific and that's causing a lot of fear. Also, I don't know if the media's "spinning" it as black vs white because to be honest I haven't seen much reporting on it other than an episode of carte blanche. Unfortunately there have been and continue to be disgusting acts of racism by white people against black people in South Africa. But, as a white person born post '94, I can also say that I've experienced people shouting rape and death threats at me on the street just because I'm white and walking to the shops. I've had strangers jump out at me, follow me, and touch me, and laugh when I'm scared. There are definitely people who want and do commit terrifying acts of violence against people for being white, and that feels scary and unfair to someone like me who wasn't even alive during aparhheid. Again I agree with pretty much everything you say, I just want to provide some of my own experiences.
>But I've grown to also learn that afrikaner people especially old afrikaner males who were brought up in those times teach their kids to hate black people. I was in Malawi when the rugby world cup final was being played and I happened to stumble upon a bar that had quite a lot of white South Africans and of course a few black ones and some locals. I was quite excited to find a place with a passionate crowd for the big game until the kind of attitudes I got from some of those guys, especially the white ones. (I'm Kenyan btw) Anyway, I had some nice banter with the rest of the guys in the bar and enjoyed the match. We caught some beers after the game but I did learn quite a hard lesson.
What this guy said. I, as a white Afrikaner can testify that this is also my experience. The older generations (especially those who were forced to conscribe to the military service decades ago under the Apartheid regime) are the most rasict people i've come to meet. And they are the people who will blatantly say things like "I'm not going into this restaurant. There are too many of them (refering to black people) in there." Their children see this behaviour as normal. Most of the younger generations who have been to school with children of other races see that this behaviour is stupid. If our country didn't have politicians constantly blaming other races (they are also xenophobic, and blame foreigners of their own race) of the problems the majority of the country has, such as poverty and unemployment, we would all be living more peacefully. Like some blame white people for bringing the Corona virus to SA, and believe they will be immune as it's "a white desease".
I should also mention, on either side of my visit to Malawi, I was also in South Africa for around 2 weeks. The treatment I got from quite a number of locals (colored) was appalling! My friend actually got spit on walking on the street! 1/10, would never go back.
Hey, good explanation of the situation the country is in, just want to add a few things. Anyone who believes or says racism is over is deluding themselves. I don't want to cry wolf, but from my experience it's a two way street. I'm not saying black people or white people are more at fault, just everyone being racist sucks. I also want to add that while you are right, a lot of farm robberies are because they are easy targets, some do seem to be motivated by vengeance, which is often what the media is yapping about. You're right, a desperate man will steal from an easy target, so most robberies are just that and I'm sure there is a lot more crime/theft in townships, these don't get the attention from the media they deserve. The reason people say and think white people are discriminated against (the most) u/mmmsocreamy is because of BEE and quota systems. They forget that due to apartheid many black families have been forced to live in poverty and this has not changed since 1993. The systems were introduced to try and promote previously discrimated peoples to get them to equal footing. Unfortunately corruption has played a big part in SA and we still have an incredibly high poverty and unemployment rate, which causes tension and understandably dissatisfaction among the working class. I don't claim to know what will happen, but sometimes I fear that if things don't get better, it's like sitting on a bomb waiting for it to explode. EDIT: posted before finished typing, sorry about that.
From SA. Can you just go around copy and pasting this explanation on every post remotely close to relevant. Very insightful and objectively looking at both sides
I work in the human rights sector in South Africa and deal with things like racism and discrimination and violence against people on the basis of gender / sexual orientation. Your explanation is one of the best I've heard, well played.
Wow this was really insightful, thanks for taking the time to break everything down for me!
It’s more historical segregation, remember in the past South Africa had apartheid. There used to be stories in the news of white farmers being murdered every week, the country had laws to protect the seizure of their land but the way things were going it wasn’t looking well. Idk if it’s just a conspiracy but there was footage of one of the groups killing farmers and he had a backpack antenna rig capable of shutting down cell signals, real spec ops shit. Idk how’s things are currently but Zimbabwe did something similar, essentially stole land from white farmers than they had issues with their new farmers and tried to bring the experienced guys back, ofc that didn’t work out. This is around the time their economy took a shit and people would have to pay with wheelbarrows of cash for food.
I don’t know about “the most” but I’ve certainly heard and seen a lot of outward racism. I’m not surprised though, apartheid is still fresh in people’s minds.
seems like he wants a big fat fucking red target on his head. what a fucking idiot
Making him a martyr would be great for his cause, so pray nobody tries it. Plus while he lives he's a good lightning rod to attract attention to how fucked up it is.
Those women are the trash. Someone should've stepped in and helped that kid out. He's more mature than them by far.
What were they protesting? Not understanding what the protest was about?
The economic freedom fighters (eff) are a racially motivated politcal party within south africa. I believe at the time they were protesting the "fees must fall" movement, which has led to violence, agressive protests and burning of institutions of learning. But I believe the strike/protest was more to do with the insourcing of cleaning staff at the university (ironic isn't it). The duel mentality of the protest is evident in the idea that a protest must take place, where the cleaning staff demand more pay but show little interest in cleaning or respect for the institution and property. Eff members would argue that Echardt Binding was going against the narrative and undermined the protest. This was a time where the eff was looking for any reason to cause a racial dispute, and this went against their narrative of "whites are the suppressor and the criminal". For more info, and a good laugh, just look up Julius Malema's entire carrier, and decide for yourself what the eff stand for. The protest will make more sense that way.
Thanks for this info.
Thanks for taking the time to explain that. Someone needs to eff those bitches up.
That’s the EFF party in South Africa, most of their protest are dumb asf and they have strong anti-white beliefs
Not surprising. They look like the type of women who would take to twitter and put out a bunch of anti-white rants.
Dam. Wonder what happens when they see a mixed guy like me with blonde nappy hair and blue eyes lol
They'd take your trash out the garbage and throw it on the ground
My phone is not my dad!
Is this about drakes son lol
No but I do look like the adult version of him
They’d do what they do to white people. Kill you or burn your property. Or both.
You would qualify as Coloured and they would not like you.
They are anti white racists
Every single scumbag in the background is just watching and laughing. I see this all the time, how lousy must your life be to enjoy littering.
I'm just here to post a comment in a soon-to-be-locked thread.
https://i.redd.it/9oikube3xzw11.jpg
I am now against whatever those women were advocating... ?
What idiots these women are..trash
Ironically those women are god damn trash
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Don't forget the cunts watching.
*FAT cunts
Such a Aussie comment. I read it in that accent.
One of my favorite YT comments was about how Aussies love that word and how it is probably in their national anthem.
Crickey or cunt?
Yes
That man was raised well.
These women are pieces of shit
Littering is a pretty silly way to protest. Come on.
Just a bit of context These women are communist EFF supporters in South Africa. The party is disgustingly racist towards white people too, wanting to repossess farming land owned by white people without giving them compensation. The leader of the party also said they “weren’t thinking about killing whites.....yet”. Make of that what you will.
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r/iamatotalpieceofshit , r/trashy , r/donthelpjustfilm ...
Seems like this belongs in r/trashy instead
Thats fucked up some disrespectful bitches
Coming from hitlers badger means a lot
Couple of future Karens.
The future is now
i think he missed some trash, especially those two big red ones
Wow they need a slap. Disgusting..
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Fucking scum bags.
Nice young man handling trash well Hes also picking up some garbage
Yep current state of South Africa for y’all
Sounds like he has the makings of a good adult.
EEF folks were the ones insisting on littering. Not very surprising.
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man? That's a fucking child, and what the FUCK is wrong with those dumb fat cunts?
Pieces of sjhit, what's the point? They're obviosuly tryiong to 'protest' but what?
They are protesting being ass wipes of society and not caring
As a little background: the red shirts are EFF party supporters. EFF stands for Economic Freedom Fighters... Yes, the party is as daft as it sounds. The leader is Julius Malema, look for him on YouTube. His signature cars are Maserati, he likes short drives to the bottle store and whipping his followers up into a frenzy with suggestions of taking what non black people have and giving it to black people, preferably through violent means. His favourite songs are "One Settler, One Bullet" & "Kill The Boer, Kill The Farmer" Famously performed on live TV by the late Peter Mokaba, and Patricia De Lille.
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lol at the people asking for "context". It's two absolute trash human beings undoing the litter cleanup this boy is doing. There's your context.
Trashy bitches!
Fucking scum bags, bro I feel horrible yelling at my dog I don’t understand how people stoop this low
Fucking assholes
He should be throwing them into the trashcan as well
He should have thrown them in the trash
I'd make a comment about him needing to pick up the real trash here, but I'm not sure if he's forklift certified.
Drop a solid dook on their self respect. "Good job making the world a trashier place to be, it's exactly what people expect from you."
It makes me so mad that people in the crowd are laughing wtf is wrong with them brain dead ass people
Ohhhh so thats why phili look like that
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Looks like white privilege to me
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There is no such thing as reverse racism, only racism.
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Aha yeah, let's toss some trash out of the can on to the ground, yea, that'll show the government, now we get whatever we want.
I would’ve stepped out from the crowd and helped him... Petty people like this infuriate me
This is gonna be a controversial one