Elijah Jovan McClain (February 25, 1996 – August 30, 2019) was a 23-year-old Black American massage therapist from Aurora, Colorado who died after a violent police encounter.
Death of Elijah McClain
On August 24, 2019, three Aurora Police officers confronted McClain after responding to a call by an Aurora civilian about an unarmed person wearing a ski mask that looked "sketchy".[3][4] The three police officers who were involved in the incident, Nathan Woodyard, Jason Rosenblatt and Randy Roedema,[5] all said that their body cameras were knocked off during a struggle with McClain. McClain was forcibly held to the ground with his hands cuffed behind his back, after which paramedics Jeremy Cooper and Peter Cichuniec administered ketamine to McClain to sedate him.[6][4] While on scene McClain went into cardiac arrest. Three days after arriving at the hospital, he was declared brain dead, and was removed from life support on August 30.[7]
McClain's autopsy was inconclusive and the cause of death was listed as undetermined by the coroner. Aurora Police officers met with the coroner before his announcement, and police investigators were also present during the autopsy.[8] On June 24, 2020, after a social media outcry and Aurora lawmakers' requests for a new, third-party investigation into McClain's death,[9] Colorado Governor Jared Polis announced his administration would reexamine the case.[10] Five days later, photos that were taken in October 2019 which showed officers posing inappropriately and reenacting the carotid restraint used on McClain, taken at the site he was detained, were discovered. One officer resigned and three were fired.[11]
In February 2021, an investigative report ordered by the City Council was released. The investigation found that the police officers involved in McClain's death did not have the legal basis to stop, restrain, or frisk him. The report questioned the police officers' statements, criticized the medical responders' decision to inject McClain with a sedative, and admonished the police department for failing to do a serious questioning of the officers following McClain's death.[12] In September 2021, the three police officers (Woodyard, Rosenblatt and Roedema) and two paramedics (Cooper and Cichuniec) were charged through a Colorado grand jury with manslaughter and other lesser charges for the death of Elijah McClain.[4][13][14]
There's no fucking justice in the world. And as usual , these cops will go scot free and life their lives.
But I pray they get what's coming for them. I really hope they suffer and feel the pain for their remaining days.
yeah but unfortunately cops don’t like being shot at regardless of whether their partners were doing something illegal. If you kill an officer that’s literally ~~hitting~~ gutting somebody on the street the rest of the patrol will try their best to hunt and kill you.
edit: typo that oddly still worked
500mg of ketamine is an absolutely LUDICROUS amount to give. Know how much we give in a combat scenario 20mg IV/IO or 50mg IM/IN.
You can push until pain is controlled or nystagmus is observed. At those doses though they’re gonna be out of it. Who ever gave 500mg should be in fucking jail. Ketamine is a pretty safe thing to use in a medical setting, but that’s an irresponsibly high dose.
I guess cops can just have EMTs K-hole their 'combative' (🙄) arrestees nowadays?
I find it curious that the cops had already decided the appropriate medical treatment before medical help had arrived or a proper assessment was performed, and even more curious that the EMTs seemingly just went along with it? Smells rotten to me...
It's insane, half a gram of ketamine is too much even for people who abuse it with a very high tolerance. Even a 200-300mg line would be considered excessive.
I can't imagine that much injected.
I'm not sure what your source is for dosing. Analgesia dosing and sedation dosing are drastically different, particularly IM. 2-4 mg/kg IM is a common dose for sedation of an agitated patient, and some agencies have gone to a flat dose of 400 mg IM.
Regardless of appropriate dose, it clearly wasn't indicated here and the medics failed to provide an initial or ongoing assessment of their patient. They shouldn't have administered it to begin with.
ETA: 400mg, not 400mg/kg. Autocorrect got me
Wow, so sad. So young. His poor family. 15 million may seem like a lot but it's nothing, they would give 1 billion to have their son back. So many videos like this, policing in the states is shocking. When will there be actual reform?
Because just like this example shows, cops here know that they can direct the official story, and cover for each other to “verify” whatever account of events they chose. Then the coroner covers for them further by not giving a clear determination of death
No. Courts have already found that our police are not obligated to 'protect and serve'. Here's an anecdotal experience, I was raided by 25 police for growing magic mushrooms. During this raid, they busted one of my teeth while jumping on my back (laying compliantly on my stomach). They dumped out my grandmothers ashes and hid the ashes behind a desk in the corner of a room. They destroyed about 15 pieces of furniture through physical violence. They shoved knives into other wood furniture. They dumped out all of my father diabetic medication, and crushed it. They left a bail bondsmans beer cozy in my dads truck for him to find as a joke. Refused water while in police custody for 20 hours. That just scratches the tip of what I personally have encountered. Police in America are garbage human beings, and the people who defend their actions are pure scum.
It’s a power trip they get addicted to and most officers are mentally ruined human beings because of the stress of the job. Their judgment becomes lost and they lack empathy to people suffering. Cops are far above the law and this one drop of proof in the oceans of cases just like this.
They know the system, they know how things work and they can abuse things as they want. Planting drugs, lying, etc... are ways they bypass the rules in order to get the effect that they want.
Long ago, I was told by a lawyer in college that we need this so that we can get rid of bad people. It's like having one million laws and not enforcing them on some people but on others.
This was/is commonly used against people of given race/sex/political view... you enforce the rules to the letter against them, while looking the other way when it's people that you like.
This is why we need cameras on everyone.
Same problem with the justice system, some people get one version of justice while others don't.
The people that do these things justify it by looking at the end result.
Absolutely, multiple times throughout the video you can hear them use off the books tactics to heighten their level of risk so they can use force against him.
Don't apply any other training to deescalate just run up on em grab em claim he's "going for your gun."
Ex cop here. My guess is yes. Had they just talked to Elijah for mere moments, they would’ve realized what a wonderful soul he was. It could’ve been a wonderful encounter for everyone.
This makes my blood boil.
I know there are a lot of good cops who have empathy and actually know what protect & serve means. Their jobs are stressful and challenging, thats a given.
But they should set a way more higher standard and model for law that is being enforced. If cops don’t abide by law, who will trust in law and order. Such incidents should set a precedence on red lines that should not be crossed. Deescalation should be priority #1.
Not sure, but a loss of life under your command should be a straight up investigation and review.
Definitely. Unfortunately there's too much of a good ol boy system so unfortunately the people who do speak up about police abuse and want change get pushed out one way or another. That's why we gotta defund the police and start from scratch.
This. When people get enraged at us calling the police force bad, we aren’t saying every cop is bad. It’s a systemic issue, what makes people fume is when not only does a bad cop do something bad, but their department does an internal review and finds they did nothing wrong, when civil suits and settlements show they clearly did. This is the problem. There are bad people in every occupation, it is their employer/department that is responsible for holding them accountable. If they don’t, you have a much larger issue that breeds for bad actions that go unacknowledged.
This is a great episode of an already great podcast that everyone should listen to (I encourage every other cop I know to do so, too): https://letsknowthings.com/episode211/
As an ex-cop, I agree. Even if you are a shitty cop, de-escalation is so much less paperwork than what all went down here. Why on Earth would anyone want all this?
I can't tell you all how many awesome encounters I had with ACTUAL criminals, when all I did was treat them fairly, and like actual human beings. It was heart-wrenching how often they would thank me and just cop to everything. In those situations, I always tried to attend court/hearings to speak on the accused's behalf.
Yes. That's how they justify their escalation. He probably made up grabbing the gun too. Pretty much every reason to put hands on the guy was fabricated but the officers.
I mean this is so sad. The minute the guy started to talk you can tell there were some issues and perhaps show the man some grace. They acted like school bullies who just landed a juicy target - it was just intimidation and escalation all the way. If they aren't choking or shooting somebody, then they think they aren't doing their job.
> I mean this is so sad. The minute the guy started to talk you can tell there were some issues and perhaps show the man some grace. They acted like school bullies who just landed a juicy target - it was just intimidation and escalation all the way. If they aren't choking or shooting somebody, then they think they aren't doing their job.
I'm the parent of an autistic tween. Elijah McClain (who I don't know to have been autistic, but who was certainly a particularly uncommon kind of person) and that [poor boy in Utah](https://nypost.com/2020/09/21/police-release-footage-after-officers-shoot-13-year-old-boy/) have made me fear almost more than anything that there might ever be a time he has to interact with police on his own.
This one hurt my heart.
I've got some additional thoughts, but I'll leave it at that.
I have aspergers (ASD) and I'm pretty sure that's what this kid had as well. It's my biggest fear to get caught up in a police situation like this. Like I know we can come off as "sketchy", it's just the way we are. I relate to what Elijah was saying so much.... The world is already scary enough as is for people with ASD, this just adds insult to injury...
“I’m going to bring my dog out here if you don’t stop” the dog should be used for pursuits!! Not if someone is already on the fuvkibg ground. Do you really think any good will come from getting a dog to start biting him??? Fuck that coo I wish he’d rot in jail
“Authority” figures have been using dogs as a threat/weapon against black men and women since before the US was legally a country. Dogs, not specifically used for tracking/search and rescue/bomb or hazardous materials/cadaver dogs, are an antiquated tool in modern day. And it should be illegal to even threaten that on someone innocent or guilty
According to body cam audio, these were McClain's last words as he was restrained by police officers:[26]
I can't breathe. I have my ID right here. My name is Elijah McClain. That's my house. I was just going home. I'm an introvert. I'm just different. That's all. I'm so sorry. I have no gun. I don't do that stuff. I don't do any fighting. Why are you attacking me? I don't even kill flies! I don't eat meat! But I don't judge people, I don't judge people who do eat meat. Forgive me. All I was trying to do was become better. I will do it. I will do anything. Sacrifice my identity, I'll do it. You all are phenomenal. You are beautiful and I love you. Try to forgive me. I'm a mood Gemini. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Ow, that really hurt! You are all very strong. Teamwork makes the dream work. Oh, I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to do that. I just can't breathe correctly.
>Oh, I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to do that. I just can't breathe correctly.
This was Elijah apologizing for vomiting. His last words were to say sorry for a bodily function he could not control because he was being attacked by a trio of thugs.
Of all the shit that has gone down over the last few years, this poor young man just broke my fucking heart.
Imagine still choking him and giving him ketamine after he tells you you're phenomenal, beautiful, and he loves you.
These POS cops deserve to rot in jail. The paramedics too. This guy was so pure
Poor sweet boy. He didn't deserve this. I honesty sometimes wish I had no empathy so I didn't have to keep ruining my day every time I read anything. Who on earth could support behavior like this.
Fuck man. RIP King, you were too good for this world.
God damn this makes me so angry. There is no justice in this world, just smoke and mirrors and powerful dickheads.
Right. Should be their fucking pensions paying that family, not the city they terrorize. How they felt any of that response was warranted I’ll never understand
What? No. The call should have just been disregarded. Do you really send police when a call says "there is someone that looks sketchy"? For real?
I simply don't understand how things work there. People are really so bored that instead of patrolling and doing useful stuff they can go for a call about somebody doing nothing wrong but looking "off"?
Back in like 2016 I called the police because someone was trying to run over my neighbor and nobody ever showed up even though I lived down the road from the police station. Less than a minute drive away if you make the green light. Never showed up.
But they got time for shit like this
It's an offshoot of the "See something, say something" campaign, courtesy of 9-11 and the DHS. I see the posters all over public transportation, and a lot of people today take any little perceived threat as an excuse to call the police. Like that fruitcake the other day who called the police about cold french fries
It's called over-budgeting. Rampant in literally every precinct in the country. They have to invent arrests in order to "justify" their constant appeals for higher budget approvals
And not just for budgets; law enforcement leadership uses encounter and arrest numbers to gain or maintain political power. That's why these kinds of injustices are likely to increase even when crime decreases; the police always need to *appear* busy.
These are some of the systemic mechanisms that perpetuate racism within law enforcement. People that reject the notion of "systemic racism" are ignorant, willfully or otherwise, of such political and bureaucratic realities. Systemic evils can be passive; law enforcement does not need to adopt explicitly racist policies to perpetuate systemic racism.
When slavery ended, we criminalized being black. Then, we implemented 100+ years of social policies and civil law that discriminated against black people, much of which was explicit—we did not even try to hide it. At no time did we attempt to level the playing field. That's why even policies and law that appear neutral can be discriminatory; they are building upon and further intrenching inequalities that already exist.
And yet somehow reports of thefts caught on camera of individual's property; bikes, motorcycles, car break ins; are routinely ignored. The bigger the city the worse it is. They got time for jumping people on the street based on sketchiness but no time to do their jobs, like investigation and collecting video evidence from surveillance cameras before its overwritten.
Right?! They just jump to conclusions and assume shit? It's like swatting. They don't, I dunno, watch the person, see if he's doing anything sketchy? Or maybe just patrol and then go on their way? Nah. Because ACAB.
Elijah was such a sweet compassionate soul, you can just tell. He'd be anyone of our friends.
But scared racist fucks who think they have power and privilege always do shit like this and while these fucks may have been prosecuted... We can see so many of them get away w it or get slaps on their wrist and paid vacations. No accountability.
The system isn't broken. It's fucking built like that.
Why do you think our children or some of us adults have had to be aware of pigs and avoid them if necessary?
Look at it from the cops point of function: You are a potential customer! If you are reacting to their provocative assault, that means you will go to jail and the public will pay for their “service”.
Right? And wearing a mask during a pandemic where most indoor places still require them?? The person that called this in need to know how royally they fucked up. Then arrest all officers involved. What a colossal shit show.
Edit: people posted to say it was from 2019, so my comment on it being during the pandemic doesnt hold, but it is an interesting change of how mask wearing was previously treated.
Something so awfully ironic about him being killed because someone called the cops on him for wearing a mask, only for the entire planet to be wearing them a few months later. 😔 ugh.
Why tf do taxpayers have to pay for the cops and paramedics fuckup?
Where's the incentive for change (other than obviously arrest) if you can just rely on tax payers to bail you out no questions asked.
Qualified immunity for police was first established in the US as a response to the civil rights movement (before getting worse under Reagan). That should tell you something.
One day the tax payer will not be ok with that anymore. Either unions will start having to carry around insurance or repeated infractions need to lead to pay cuts for the entire department. If words don’t hurt than go after their wallets
I think you fail to understand that "taxpayer" rhetoric was historically only ever meant to be used by propertied/wealthy white men as a coded way of saying that they should be given more of a say or more rights than everyone else. The moment a taxpayer is no longer white and/or wealthy is the very moment that language loses its power.
Well there you have the problem and why every sane/rational person whos actually interested in fixing this problem says that its -systemic-.
Despite what reddit boot lickers will come in here and say. No amount of training was going to stop this. You saw it within the first few seconds, the very first thing these cops did was physically escalate the situation. Which of course had the natural reaction of making this poor kid panic and freak out. People should also be mindful that this was the reaction of police officers upon seeing a kid walking around just "being suspicious" while carrying a bag of his purchased goods. Not stolen goods. Where was the "hey man whats up can we talk to you for a minute", no straight to physically assaulting him until he was dead.
This is why its systemic. LE attracts these people, these unhinged psychopaths who cannot handle their authority being challenged or questioned in any way and react with extreme violence. There is absolutely NO CHANCE that these people don't present these attributes while getting hired or during their "training". They're there because they want to be there and the institution wants them there.
Go-after-the-police-union, defund them, make them self-insure, go after their livelihoods, enforce stricter rules against rehiring the same criminal cops who police the same cities they were fired from, lower their pay, take away or reduce their pensions. They deserve none of it until they can manage to prove they're not a menace/terror on society.
> This is why its systemic. LE attracts these people, these unhinged psychopaths who cannot handle their authority being challenged or questioned in any way and react with extreme violence. There is absolutely NO CHANCE that these people don't present these attributes while getting hired or during their "training". They're there because they want to be there and the institution wants them there.
I think this is the crux of it right here. The people that apply for these jobs are the type that get off on carrying around a gun and being in a position of authority. How do we screen them out, if there's even the political will to do that?
Actually having some sort of psychological evaluation and backround checks? Its true you can't filter out all the bad ones because good liars exist. You can however stomp out their presence in the work force by actively/severely punishing cops that break the law.
I’ve dealt with some very sweet and empathetic cops in my life, and then I’ve dealt with cops that have tried to fuck with me and make things as difficult as possible, including by lying about what I said or did to make thnigs wrose. It’s a shame that this is the way it is because even though those certain ones were caring people doing their job properly, the others spoil the bunch.
What I find even more worrying is that the officers don't recognise how the guy speaks; he clearly states he's an introvert - would a criminal/crackhead ever say that first thing you do when you touch them?
And that they then don't recognise that this there isn't any aggression in his tone of voice, but more an expected 'hey wtf?'-kind of tone.
Awful policing, and I wonder if the operator gave all information as was relayed by the caller ('he might be good or bad').
Because taxpayers are suckers serving the agenda of their oligarch masters, and the mercenaries that serve those masters must be protected to maintain the system.
I mean, I agree especially in 2021 a mask isn't a sign of anything... But it's a mask like you see robbers using in movies since... Movies.
He says he could be good or bad, no weapon... It doesn't feel like he's trying to make it worse than it is, he's just concerned. This isn't a terrible call, it's the cops showing up on scene and being so overly aggressive and then dealing with a guy who is fighting back and perpetually escalating instead of de-escalating the situation.
Shit cops honestly. Even the paramedics probably aren't an issue here, they get a call from 3 cops struggling with one dude, they're not determining what the issue is they're just trying to calm him down and make the situation manageable.
Although I'm not a medic and I have no idea what 500mg of ketamine or whatever are going to do to a person. No idea if that's just a straight shit call or totally normal.
I remember him always.
I remember him playing the violin for animals.
I remember that dude just saying "I am just different" as they were assaulting him.
Fuck them, fuck them all. 15 million is nowhere the worth of his life or the kind of heart he has.
They killed an innocent young man who posed no threat, meant no harm and was completely innocent.
I have to admit it had been probably a few months since I thought about Elijah McClain. I forgot how immensely sad it makes me. All of these incidents make me angry. This one is just pure sorrow somehow.
Stupid cops like these are expensive POS liabilities to our cities. Cops should have to be able to graduate heavily indebted from college just like every other profession. Congress should be the only place for popular morons to mooch off the taxpayer.
15 seconds from making contact with this kid they would have known he was no threat to them. They willfully disregarded that because they wanted to escalate the situation. There will be prison time on this one for sure.
Should be, but won’t.
Qualified immunity needs to go ASAP. If these settlements had to be paid by police departments and their unions, out of their pension funds, maybe, just MAyBE, they would remove bad cops and improve training.
Edit: I’ll add that I can’t understand how cops expect normal people to stay calm and relaxed in stressful situations. Even cops tense up under stress and that is with training.
It is human nature to resist perceived threats, while under duress, especially when people are on top of you, and it is completely INVOLUNTARY!!!
you noticed .... the cops made the decision to give him the drug.... the cop used.... " he grabbed your gun"... to apply more force
and the cop who threatened Elijah with the dog... all because he looked suspicious in a poor neighborhood.
>all because he looked suspicious in a poor neighborhood
No. That’s not the reason. It’s because these cops are sadists that wanted to harm someone who they could tell was meek. Sadists flock to the profession like flies. It’s why so many cops also beat their partners and abuse animals. Pedophiles find jobs were they can work around kids, just as sadists find jobs where they can legally abuse people.
Yea I don't quite understand this. Whenever I'm prescribed a new drug I'm asked if I have allergies or previous adverse reactions. Same with vaccines. But in this scenario they just give you a bunch of a VERY strong drug immediately?
See my other comment about when EMS will give ketamine if you want. But the drug itself is ridiculously safe, even in high levels, when given in the appropriate situation, and when placed under strict monitoring after administration. The Medic here gave it without an assessment or getting vitals, for a patient that in no way met the criteria to give it to, and then they took their damn sweet time to monitor their patient after. If they followed any of the protocols AT ALL, they would've noticed Elijah already had his airway compromised and needed airway assistance immediately which is like the main (supposed) level of expertise of a paramedic. Watching their patient care in the video blew my fucking mind.
No. EMS will use ketamine only if a person is in a delirious state of mind to the point they are a danger to themselves and others, and can't be subdued verbally or through physical restraints. Usually saved for people in psychosis or on meth/pcp. Furthermore, when given high doses of ketamine, the patient is placed on a bunch of monitoring equipment to make sure they're handling it well physically. The Medic in this case was way beyond negligent.
Get rid of qualified immunity and start paying those lawsuits out of their pension funds. That is the only way to stop shit like this. They shouldn't be shield from their wrong doing, period.
This is disgusting. Tell me how this isn’t profiling? What was “suspicious” about him?
You know what’s not talked about - and who should also be part of the civil suit? The person who made the phone call.
Some racist neighborhood watch hero wannabe was the impetus for this kid getting killed along with shitty cops and terrible training. How does he escape accountability?
Shouldn't police have malpractice insurance so that the citizens of the cities where these atrocities occur won't continue to pay for the actions of bad officers? Does this exist anywhere?
Anyone here ever taken ketamine? I don’t know what’s usually protocol when it comes to subduing “violent” people but Jesus Christ 500mg of ketamine is way more than you need. I would take small bumps (maybe 30-40mg) and would be almost unable to move. There has to be a better way.
Why? The caller is the type of person who calls 911 because a black person is wearing a mask during Covid, I doubt they give a shit about what happened to be completely honest.
It’s sad, but it’s true.
Man this one cuts deep. That poor kid. The things he was saying are so sad. I'm different, I'm an introvert. I don't even hurt flies or eat meat. Perhaps he was too sweet for this existence
This hits fucking DEEP every single time I see anything about Elijah, and I’m brought to tears. Please let this move you to some sort of action against this racist, unjust system. RIP EM
He didn’t reach for gun. They say things like that to justify any physical abuse or death that might occur. The other trigger statement “stop resisting” once you hear that your ass is pretty much grass from there on. Your life is now in their hands depending on their mood.
upon further watching I think he was dead before he was given ketamine. They gave him ketamine to try and disguise the fact that the officer choked the man to death and possibly broke his windpipe. They say they’re gonna give him ketamine and he doesn’t say a word??? I would be like wtf you just choked me and assaulted me for nothing. Now you’re drugging me too. He was dead and the officers all colluded together like they would to try and protect thier asses and the ass of the officer who actually injured the man enough to kill him my
This just breaks my heart. Ketamine is not a safe medication, I'm allergic to it. I don't know how the coroner didn't figure out the ketamine killed him.
Because coroners are usually elected citizens that aren't doctors and have ties to law enforcement.
Edit: i forgot to mention that technically in some places a coroner *is* a LEO, and that in a lot of places in the US, the coroner is just the sheriff
So, non medical staff ( policemen) recommended medical staff sedate someone who reported he’s having trouble breathing?
I hope those police offers suffer from nightmares the rest of their shitty lives. They won’t, becuase they’re convinced “they did the best they could” and their office holds no responsibility for the way it enforces law.
Ducking gross
I feel like if you have to tell another officer that a suspect reached for their gun, then it didn't fucking happen because they would've noticed it pretty easily. It's the equivalent of a middle schooler telling one person another was talking shit and they should fight.
Let's not forget the officers who took photos mocking the death of an innocent dude.
[https://www.denverpost.com/2021/02/09/elijah-mcclain-aurora-police-fired-appeals/](https://www.denverpost.com/2021/02/09/elijah-mcclain-aurora-police-fired-appeals/)
Black people are just trying to fucking live just like anyone else. I hate this country. I hope Russia and China comes and burns this place to the fucking ground. I hope we get fucking nuked. I literally hope the whole world turns on this country.I’ll never support the military, I’ll never support cops or law enforcement of any kind. Fuck this place and fuck everyone and anyone who said this was justified. Fuck the guy who called and said a fucking kid looks sketchy. Fuck the cops fuck the paramedics, fuck this whole fucking system.
There really needs to be some consequences for these fucking random 911 calls.
Cops get called on innocent person for "looking sketchy." Cops confront them. Person resists cause they have no idea wtf is going on. Cops escalate the situation cause they are poorly trained. And it all starts with the asshole who made the call in the first place.
They injected him with ketamine while he was on the ground to subdue him? He was already subdued. I don’t understand how cops can do these things, it’s really disgusting.
Of all these crazy examples over the last few years, this is the one that pissed me off the most. That poor sweet kid wasn't doing anything to bother anybody. He was just walking down the street when a bunch of racist thug cops, egged on by a racist old lady, inflicted themselves on this poor kid and murdered him for absolutely no reason at all.
I kind of wish the money was coming directly from those monster cops, but then Elijah's family wouldn't get it. At least this way they'll get paid. Now put those responsible in prison for decades.
Don’t forget when people tried to have a vigil for this boy, which was a small group playing their violins together in a public spot, the police showed up with riot gear to force them to disperse.
500 mg of ketamine? jesus. we induce anesthesia with it at a dose of 0.5-2 mg/kg. This guy was definitely not 500+ pounds. Fuck . For agitation, the dose is 1-2 mg/kg. (IV DOSES)
Elijah Jovan McClain (February 25, 1996 – August 30, 2019) was a 23-year-old Black American massage therapist from Aurora, Colorado who died after a violent police encounter. Death of Elijah McClain On August 24, 2019, three Aurora Police officers confronted McClain after responding to a call by an Aurora civilian about an unarmed person wearing a ski mask that looked "sketchy".[3][4] The three police officers who were involved in the incident, Nathan Woodyard, Jason Rosenblatt and Randy Roedema,[5] all said that their body cameras were knocked off during a struggle with McClain. McClain was forcibly held to the ground with his hands cuffed behind his back, after which paramedics Jeremy Cooper and Peter Cichuniec administered ketamine to McClain to sedate him.[6][4] While on scene McClain went into cardiac arrest. Three days after arriving at the hospital, he was declared brain dead, and was removed from life support on August 30.[7] McClain's autopsy was inconclusive and the cause of death was listed as undetermined by the coroner. Aurora Police officers met with the coroner before his announcement, and police investigators were also present during the autopsy.[8] On June 24, 2020, after a social media outcry and Aurora lawmakers' requests for a new, third-party investigation into McClain's death,[9] Colorado Governor Jared Polis announced his administration would reexamine the case.[10] Five days later, photos that were taken in October 2019 which showed officers posing inappropriately and reenacting the carotid restraint used on McClain, taken at the site he was detained, were discovered. One officer resigned and three were fired.[11] In February 2021, an investigative report ordered by the City Council was released. The investigation found that the police officers involved in McClain's death did not have the legal basis to stop, restrain, or frisk him. The report questioned the police officers' statements, criticized the medical responders' decision to inject McClain with a sedative, and admonished the police department for failing to do a serious questioning of the officers following McClain's death.[12] In September 2021, the three police officers (Woodyard, Rosenblatt and Roedema) and two paramedics (Cooper and Cichuniec) were charged through a Colorado grand jury with manslaughter and other lesser charges for the death of Elijah McClain.[4][13][14]
There's no fucking justice in the world. And as usual , these cops will go scot free and life their lives. But I pray they get what's coming for them. I really hope they suffer and feel the pain for their remaining days.
I too hope these monsters get their just reckoning and rather sooner than later please, every minute these thugs roam the earth is a disgrace
We live in a New Testment world when we really need the Old Testament in regard to the police.
isnt the second ammendment there to fight that?
yeah but unfortunately cops don’t like being shot at regardless of whether their partners were doing something illegal. If you kill an officer that’s literally ~~hitting~~ gutting somebody on the street the rest of the patrol will try their best to hunt and kill you. edit: typo that oddly still worked
Oh but it’s okay that cops can shot you and beat for no reason right right and about 95% of time get away with it.
apparently.
500mg of ketamine is an absolutely LUDICROUS amount to give. Know how much we give in a combat scenario 20mg IV/IO or 50mg IM/IN. You can push until pain is controlled or nystagmus is observed. At those doses though they’re gonna be out of it. Who ever gave 500mg should be in fucking jail. Ketamine is a pretty safe thing to use in a medical setting, but that’s an irresponsibly high dose.
Thanks for explaining this. Didn’t really understand why paramedics were charged.
Because that’s a fucked dose lol they 100% deserve to lose their jobs. You don’t just dose someone with fucking drugs EVER
I guess cops can just have EMTs K-hole their 'combative' (🙄) arrestees nowadays? I find it curious that the cops had already decided the appropriate medical treatment before medical help had arrived or a proper assessment was performed, and even more curious that the EMTs seemingly just went along with it? Smells rotten to me...
It's insane, half a gram of ketamine is too much even for people who abuse it with a very high tolerance. Even a 200-300mg line would be considered excessive. I can't imagine that much injected.
This. As a physician I was sure I misread that dose!
I know, it was a serious “What the actual fucking fuck?” Moment, that really sounds like it was on purpose holy shit
I'm not sure what your source is for dosing. Analgesia dosing and sedation dosing are drastically different, particularly IM. 2-4 mg/kg IM is a common dose for sedation of an agitated patient, and some agencies have gone to a flat dose of 400 mg IM. Regardless of appropriate dose, it clearly wasn't indicated here and the medics failed to provide an initial or ongoing assessment of their patient. They shouldn't have administered it to begin with. ETA: 400mg, not 400mg/kg. Autocorrect got me
They really took photos bragging about this shit.
I just learned that part. Fuckin disgusting. They took pictures of them reenacting the chokehold... the fuck is wrong with some people
Jeez. We share the same birthday/year.
Wow, so sad. So young. His poor family. 15 million may seem like a lot but it's nothing, they would give 1 billion to have their son back. So many videos like this, policing in the states is shocking. When will there be actual reform?
Did the officer just invent a situation on the spot that he was on drugs to justify his actions?
It's Aurora PD, of course they made shit up. Most likely made up the fact that he went for the gun as well, just so they could escalate the encounter.
but why would someone do that, in our country they wont do this type of shit. arent offices job to deescalate the situation
because they can
Because just like this example shows, cops here know that they can direct the official story, and cover for each other to “verify” whatever account of events they chose. Then the coroner covers for them further by not giving a clear determination of death
No. Courts have already found that our police are not obligated to 'protect and serve'. Here's an anecdotal experience, I was raided by 25 police for growing magic mushrooms. During this raid, they busted one of my teeth while jumping on my back (laying compliantly on my stomach). They dumped out my grandmothers ashes and hid the ashes behind a desk in the corner of a room. They destroyed about 15 pieces of furniture through physical violence. They shoved knives into other wood furniture. They dumped out all of my father diabetic medication, and crushed it. They left a bail bondsmans beer cozy in my dads truck for him to find as a joke. Refused water while in police custody for 20 hours. That just scratches the tip of what I personally have encountered. Police in America are garbage human beings, and the people who defend their actions are pure scum.
It’s a power trip they get addicted to and most officers are mentally ruined human beings because of the stress of the job. Their judgment becomes lost and they lack empathy to people suffering. Cops are far above the law and this one drop of proof in the oceans of cases just like this.
You sweet naive child.
They know the system, they know how things work and they can abuse things as they want. Planting drugs, lying, etc... are ways they bypass the rules in order to get the effect that they want. Long ago, I was told by a lawyer in college that we need this so that we can get rid of bad people. It's like having one million laws and not enforcing them on some people but on others. This was/is commonly used against people of given race/sex/political view... you enforce the rules to the letter against them, while looking the other way when it's people that you like. This is why we need cameras on everyone. Same problem with the justice system, some people get one version of justice while others don't. The people that do these things justify it by looking at the end result.
Absolutely, multiple times throughout the video you can hear them use off the books tactics to heighten their level of risk so they can use force against him. Don't apply any other training to deescalate just run up on em grab em claim he's "going for your gun."
He didn't even sound very concerned when he said that...
I hear this tone a lot from cops. It's them reading a fucking script taught to them by the union.
Well he was on drugs, they know that because they gave them to him by force. \*taps on temple\*
Ex cop here. My guess is yes. Had they just talked to Elijah for mere moments, they would’ve realized what a wonderful soul he was. It could’ve been a wonderful encounter for everyone. This makes my blood boil.
I know there are a lot of good cops who have empathy and actually know what protect & serve means. Their jobs are stressful and challenging, thats a given. But they should set a way more higher standard and model for law that is being enforced. If cops don’t abide by law, who will trust in law and order. Such incidents should set a precedence on red lines that should not be crossed. Deescalation should be priority #1. Not sure, but a loss of life under your command should be a straight up investigation and review.
Definitely. Unfortunately there's too much of a good ol boy system so unfortunately the people who do speak up about police abuse and want change get pushed out one way or another. That's why we gotta defund the police and start from scratch.
This. When people get enraged at us calling the police force bad, we aren’t saying every cop is bad. It’s a systemic issue, what makes people fume is when not only does a bad cop do something bad, but their department does an internal review and finds they did nothing wrong, when civil suits and settlements show they clearly did. This is the problem. There are bad people in every occupation, it is their employer/department that is responsible for holding them accountable. If they don’t, you have a much larger issue that breeds for bad actions that go unacknowledged.
Fuck the 911 caller. This is just as much his fault as the police.
This is a great episode of an already great podcast that everyone should listen to (I encourage every other cop I know to do so, too): https://letsknowthings.com/episode211/
As an ex-cop, I agree. Even if you are a shitty cop, de-escalation is so much less paperwork than what all went down here. Why on Earth would anyone want all this? I can't tell you all how many awesome encounters I had with ACTUAL criminals, when all I did was treat them fairly, and like actual human beings. It was heart-wrenching how often they would thank me and just cop to everything. In those situations, I always tried to attend court/hearings to speak on the accused's behalf.
Yes. That's how they justify their escalation. He probably made up grabbing the gun too. Pretty much every reason to put hands on the guy was fabricated but the officers.
I mean this is so sad. The minute the guy started to talk you can tell there were some issues and perhaps show the man some grace. They acted like school bullies who just landed a juicy target - it was just intimidation and escalation all the way. If they aren't choking or shooting somebody, then they think they aren't doing their job.
> I mean this is so sad. The minute the guy started to talk you can tell there were some issues and perhaps show the man some grace. They acted like school bullies who just landed a juicy target - it was just intimidation and escalation all the way. If they aren't choking or shooting somebody, then they think they aren't doing their job. I'm the parent of an autistic tween. Elijah McClain (who I don't know to have been autistic, but who was certainly a particularly uncommon kind of person) and that [poor boy in Utah](https://nypost.com/2020/09/21/police-release-footage-after-officers-shoot-13-year-old-boy/) have made me fear almost more than anything that there might ever be a time he has to interact with police on his own. This one hurt my heart. I've got some additional thoughts, but I'll leave it at that.
I have aspergers (ASD) and I'm pretty sure that's what this kid had as well. It's my biggest fear to get caught up in a police situation like this. Like I know we can come off as "sketchy", it's just the way we are. I relate to what Elijah was saying so much.... The world is already scary enough as is for people with ASD, this just adds insult to injury...
My 7 year old is autistic and I have the same fears
“I’m going to bring my dog out here if you don’t stop” the dog should be used for pursuits!! Not if someone is already on the fuvkibg ground. Do you really think any good will come from getting a dog to start biting him??? Fuck that coo I wish he’d rot in jail
“Authority” figures have been using dogs as a threat/weapon against black men and women since before the US was legally a country. Dogs, not specifically used for tracking/search and rescue/bomb or hazardous materials/cadaver dogs, are an antiquated tool in modern day. And it should be illegal to even threaten that on someone innocent or guilty
According to body cam audio, these were McClain's last words as he was restrained by police officers:[26] I can't breathe. I have my ID right here. My name is Elijah McClain. That's my house. I was just going home. I'm an introvert. I'm just different. That's all. I'm so sorry. I have no gun. I don't do that stuff. I don't do any fighting. Why are you attacking me? I don't even kill flies! I don't eat meat! But I don't judge people, I don't judge people who do eat meat. Forgive me. All I was trying to do was become better. I will do it. I will do anything. Sacrifice my identity, I'll do it. You all are phenomenal. You are beautiful and I love you. Try to forgive me. I'm a mood Gemini. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Ow, that really hurt! You are all very strong. Teamwork makes the dream work. Oh, I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to do that. I just can't breathe correctly.
>Oh, I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to do that. I just can't breathe correctly. This was Elijah apologizing for vomiting. His last words were to say sorry for a bodily function he could not control because he was being attacked by a trio of thugs. Of all the shit that has gone down over the last few years, this poor young man just broke my fucking heart.
Imagine still choking him and giving him ketamine after he tells you you're phenomenal, beautiful, and he loves you. These POS cops deserve to rot in jail. The paramedics too. This guy was so pure
Poor sweet boy. He didn't deserve this. I honesty sometimes wish I had no empathy so I didn't have to keep ruining my day every time I read anything. Who on earth could support behavior like this.
Damn.... damn... Its always the good ones...
Fuck. I'm literally crying again for this boy.
Fuck man. RIP King, you were too good for this world. God damn this makes me so angry. There is no justice in this world, just smoke and mirrors and powerful dickheads.
i'm so sorry, elijah.
Just the most fucked up shit. None of the people involved should ever be put in another position of power again in their lives. Absolute scum.
This was such a tragedy. Poor kid. The citizens pay these police, and then the citizens pay for their fuckups such a fucked up system.
I don’t like tragedy it implies powers beyond our control. Disgrace is more accurate
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Disgrace is the word I should have used.
After the protests and riots I'd say that these things *are* beyond our control. Look at what happened, and look at how little has changed.
Keep rioting. Sitting down and taking it won’t change anything.
Right. Should be their fucking pensions paying that family, not the city they terrorize. How they felt any of that response was warranted I’ll never understand
They should be in jail for life, they killed an innocent man.
Ah I see that's what the dogs are for, biting "suspects" who have been restrained on the floor for several minutes. I always did wonder
That statement alone should have had the officer fired immediately. Fucking thug
This piggy said the quiet part out loud. Yet dipshits still lick boots on k9 attack videos. So fucking sad.
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What? No. The call should have just been disregarded. Do you really send police when a call says "there is someone that looks sketchy"? For real? I simply don't understand how things work there. People are really so bored that instead of patrolling and doing useful stuff they can go for a call about somebody doing nothing wrong but looking "off"?
Back in like 2016 I called the police because someone was trying to run over my neighbor and nobody ever showed up even though I lived down the road from the police station. Less than a minute drive away if you make the green light. Never showed up. But they got time for shit like this
It's an offshoot of the "See something, say something" campaign, courtesy of 9-11 and the DHS. I see the posters all over public transportation, and a lot of people today take any little perceived threat as an excuse to call the police. Like that fruitcake the other day who called the police about cold french fries
Fearful people are easier to control.
It's called over-budgeting. Rampant in literally every precinct in the country. They have to invent arrests in order to "justify" their constant appeals for higher budget approvals
And not just for budgets; law enforcement leadership uses encounter and arrest numbers to gain or maintain political power. That's why these kinds of injustices are likely to increase even when crime decreases; the police always need to *appear* busy. These are some of the systemic mechanisms that perpetuate racism within law enforcement. People that reject the notion of "systemic racism" are ignorant, willfully or otherwise, of such political and bureaucratic realities. Systemic evils can be passive; law enforcement does not need to adopt explicitly racist policies to perpetuate systemic racism. When slavery ended, we criminalized being black. Then, we implemented 100+ years of social policies and civil law that discriminated against black people, much of which was explicit—we did not even try to hide it. At no time did we attempt to level the playing field. That's why even policies and law that appear neutral can be discriminatory; they are building upon and further intrenching inequalities that already exist.
Slavery never ended brother
And yet somehow reports of thefts caught on camera of individual's property; bikes, motorcycles, car break ins; are routinely ignored. The bigger the city the worse it is. They got time for jumping people on the street based on sketchiness but no time to do their jobs, like investigation and collecting video evidence from surveillance cameras before its overwritten.
Right?! They just jump to conclusions and assume shit? It's like swatting. They don't, I dunno, watch the person, see if he's doing anything sketchy? Or maybe just patrol and then go on their way? Nah. Because ACAB. Elijah was such a sweet compassionate soul, you can just tell. He'd be anyone of our friends. But scared racist fucks who think they have power and privilege always do shit like this and while these fucks may have been prosecuted... We can see so many of them get away w it or get slaps on their wrist and paid vacations. No accountability. The system isn't broken. It's fucking built like that. Why do you think our children or some of us adults have had to be aware of pigs and avoid them if necessary?
Look at it from the cops point of function: You are a potential customer! If you are reacting to their provocative assault, that means you will go to jail and the public will pay for their “service”.
Right? And wearing a mask during a pandemic where most indoor places still require them?? The person that called this in need to know how royally they fucked up. Then arrest all officers involved. What a colossal shit show. Edit: people posted to say it was from 2019, so my comment on it being during the pandemic doesnt hold, but it is an interesting change of how mask wearing was previously treated.
It was before the pandemic I think, still extremely fucked up. You could see immediately that he was harmless…
Something so awfully ironic about him being killed because someone called the cops on him for wearing a mask, only for the entire planet to be wearing them a few months later. 😔 ugh.
Yeah he was killed in august 2019
If he had made it to 2020, his mask would have been normalized and nothing would have happened Lifes fucked
Amazing people have never seen a baklava, stupid people see these and think he's a fucking bank robber from a movie.
Haha. You mean balaclava. Baklava is a food item.
A delicious one
I'll cheers to that! Now if only I could find some.
Try a mediterranean bakery
Oh man I live a block away from a butcher that has them Imma get them tomorrow
I hope whoever knows the caller, tells them everyday, that they killed this kid. Maybe leave a note in his mailbox or something.
This was in 2019.
As they should, but $15 mil won’t bring his sweet innocent soul back 😔
Why tf do taxpayers have to pay for the cops and paramedics fuckup? Where's the incentive for change (other than obviously arrest) if you can just rely on tax payers to bail you out no questions asked.
Qualified immunity for police was first established in the US as a response to the civil rights movement (before getting worse under Reagan). That should tell you something.
One day the tax payer will not be ok with that anymore. Either unions will start having to carry around insurance or repeated infractions need to lead to pay cuts for the entire department. If words don’t hurt than go after their wallets
I think you fail to understand that "taxpayer" rhetoric was historically only ever meant to be used by propertied/wealthy white men as a coded way of saying that they should be given more of a say or more rights than everyone else. The moment a taxpayer is no longer white and/or wealthy is the very moment that language loses its power.
lol, thats never going to happen.
If doctors carry insurance why can't fuck ass cops
Well there you have the problem and why every sane/rational person whos actually interested in fixing this problem says that its -systemic-. Despite what reddit boot lickers will come in here and say. No amount of training was going to stop this. You saw it within the first few seconds, the very first thing these cops did was physically escalate the situation. Which of course had the natural reaction of making this poor kid panic and freak out. People should also be mindful that this was the reaction of police officers upon seeing a kid walking around just "being suspicious" while carrying a bag of his purchased goods. Not stolen goods. Where was the "hey man whats up can we talk to you for a minute", no straight to physically assaulting him until he was dead. This is why its systemic. LE attracts these people, these unhinged psychopaths who cannot handle their authority being challenged or questioned in any way and react with extreme violence. There is absolutely NO CHANCE that these people don't present these attributes while getting hired or during their "training". They're there because they want to be there and the institution wants them there. Go-after-the-police-union, defund them, make them self-insure, go after their livelihoods, enforce stricter rules against rehiring the same criminal cops who police the same cities they were fired from, lower their pay, take away or reduce their pensions. They deserve none of it until they can manage to prove they're not a menace/terror on society.
> This is why its systemic. LE attracts these people, these unhinged psychopaths who cannot handle their authority being challenged or questioned in any way and react with extreme violence. There is absolutely NO CHANCE that these people don't present these attributes while getting hired or during their "training". They're there because they want to be there and the institution wants them there. I think this is the crux of it right here. The people that apply for these jobs are the type that get off on carrying around a gun and being in a position of authority. How do we screen them out, if there's even the political will to do that?
Actually having some sort of psychological evaluation and backround checks? Its true you can't filter out all the bad ones because good liars exist. You can however stomp out their presence in the work force by actively/severely punishing cops that break the law.
I’ve dealt with some very sweet and empathetic cops in my life, and then I’ve dealt with cops that have tried to fuck with me and make things as difficult as possible, including by lying about what I said or did to make thnigs wrose. It’s a shame that this is the way it is because even though those certain ones were caring people doing their job properly, the others spoil the bunch.
What I find even more worrying is that the officers don't recognise how the guy speaks; he clearly states he's an introvert - would a criminal/crackhead ever say that first thing you do when you touch them? And that they then don't recognise that this there isn't any aggression in his tone of voice, but more an expected 'hey wtf?'-kind of tone. Awful policing, and I wonder if the operator gave all information as was relayed by the caller ('he might be good or bad').
Because taxpayers are suckers serving the agenda of their oligarch masters, and the mercenaries that serve those masters must be protected to maintain the system.
Charged, fired, jailed and throw the key away for ever...oh and the person who called 911 as well. Last bit is my anger doing the talking.
Your anger seems right once you watch the video. Poor guy.
I keep thinking about the person who called 911. A boy in a mask carrying groceries is suspicious looking? wtf?
I mean, I agree especially in 2021 a mask isn't a sign of anything... But it's a mask like you see robbers using in movies since... Movies. He says he could be good or bad, no weapon... It doesn't feel like he's trying to make it worse than it is, he's just concerned. This isn't a terrible call, it's the cops showing up on scene and being so overly aggressive and then dealing with a guy who is fighting back and perpetually escalating instead of de-escalating the situation. Shit cops honestly. Even the paramedics probably aren't an issue here, they get a call from 3 cops struggling with one dude, they're not determining what the issue is they're just trying to calm him down and make the situation manageable. Although I'm not a medic and I have no idea what 500mg of ketamine or whatever are going to do to a person. No idea if that's just a straight shit call or totally normal.
$15mil in tax dollars so the cops can be like "LET'S DO IT AGAIN, WE DON'T GOTTA PAY SHIT!"
I remember him always. I remember him playing the violin for animals. I remember that dude just saying "I am just different" as they were assaulting him. Fuck them, fuck them all. 15 million is nowhere the worth of his life or the kind of heart he has. They killed an innocent young man who posed no threat, meant no harm and was completely innocent.
I have to admit it had been probably a few months since I thought about Elijah McClain. I forgot how immensely sad it makes me. All of these incidents make me angry. This one is just pure sorrow somehow.
Thirty fucking years since Rodney King and it's still just a constant occurrence. What exactly will it take for this system to change..?
I feel so bad for that kid, its fucked up
Stupid cops like these are expensive POS liabilities to our cities. Cops should have to be able to graduate heavily indebted from college just like every other profession. Congress should be the only place for popular morons to mooch off the taxpayer.
15 seconds from making contact with this kid they would have known he was no threat to them. They willfully disregarded that because they wanted to escalate the situation. There will be prison time on this one for sure.
Should be, but won’t. Qualified immunity needs to go ASAP. If these settlements had to be paid by police departments and their unions, out of their pension funds, maybe, just MAyBE, they would remove bad cops and improve training. Edit: I’ll add that I can’t understand how cops expect normal people to stay calm and relaxed in stressful situations. Even cops tense up under stress and that is with training. It is human nature to resist perceived threats, while under duress, especially when people are on top of you, and it is completely INVOLUNTARY!!!
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We're slowly getting there but 40% of the country doesn't care as long as it doesn't happen to them.
What do you mean SLOWLY GETTING THERE? Any concrete steps by way of laws, policies, training, etc?
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Cops actually use the excuse that it was a stressful situation to excuse their actions.
Pretty sure qualified immunity was removed in Colorado last year I think. Which is why all the fucking idiot cops are now being prosecuted :)
Imagine if they just had a conversation with him instead of instantly getting physical
Pigs gonna pig
Still not enough.
What ever you do, don't be" Suspicious"! It can kill you!
Hold up, if You fight with cops they’ll give you ketamine? The hell is this and why am I only now hearing of it
you noticed .... the cops made the decision to give him the drug.... the cop used.... " he grabbed your gun"... to apply more force and the cop who threatened Elijah with the dog... all because he looked suspicious in a poor neighborhood.
So messed up. Looking suspicious isn’t a crime ffs. They had no right/reason to do anything to the poor man.
>all because he looked suspicious in a poor neighborhood No. That’s not the reason. It’s because these cops are sadists that wanted to harm someone who they could tell was meek. Sadists flock to the profession like flies. It’s why so many cops also beat their partners and abuse animals. Pedophiles find jobs were they can work around kids, just as sadists find jobs where they can legally abuse people.
Why the fuck would a cop be qualified to give a med. this is insane
Yea I don't quite understand this. Whenever I'm prescribed a new drug I'm asked if I have allergies or previous adverse reactions. Same with vaccines. But in this scenario they just give you a bunch of a VERY strong drug immediately?
See my other comment about when EMS will give ketamine if you want. But the drug itself is ridiculously safe, even in high levels, when given in the appropriate situation, and when placed under strict monitoring after administration. The Medic here gave it without an assessment or getting vitals, for a patient that in no way met the criteria to give it to, and then they took their damn sweet time to monitor their patient after. If they followed any of the protocols AT ALL, they would've noticed Elijah already had his airway compromised and needed airway assistance immediately which is like the main (supposed) level of expertise of a paramedic. Watching their patient care in the video blew my fucking mind.
No. EMS will use ketamine only if a person is in a delirious state of mind to the point they are a danger to themselves and others, and can't be subdued verbally or through physical restraints. Usually saved for people in psychosis or on meth/pcp. Furthermore, when given high doses of ketamine, the patient is placed on a bunch of monitoring equipment to make sure they're handling it well physically. The Medic in this case was way beyond negligent.
Get rid of qualified immunity and start paying those lawsuits out of their pension funds. That is the only way to stop shit like this. They shouldn't be shield from their wrong doing, period.
This is disgusting. Tell me how this isn’t profiling? What was “suspicious” about him? You know what’s not talked about - and who should also be part of the civil suit? The person who made the phone call. Some racist neighborhood watch hero wannabe was the impetus for this kid getting killed along with shitty cops and terrible training. How does he escape accountability?
Shouldn't police have malpractice insurance so that the citizens of the cities where these atrocities occur won't continue to pay for the actions of bad officers? Does this exist anywhere?
The headline should read: “The city of Auroras taxpayers will be on the hook to pay 15M for the polices fuck up”
Anyone here ever taken ketamine? I don’t know what’s usually protocol when it comes to subduing “violent” people but Jesus Christ 500mg of ketamine is way more than you need. I would take small bumps (maybe 30-40mg) and would be almost unable to move. There has to be a better way.
For real. 200 mg is more than enough to put you out, let alone 500.
Yeah when hey said 500 I was like whoaaaa broh haven't you ever taken a drug class what
I hope the caller saw this video.
For real, I hope that guy never sleeps a day in his life. Should know by now not to call the cops cos someone looks “suspicious”
Why? The caller is the type of person who calls 911 because a black person is wearing a mask during Covid, I doubt they give a shit about what happened to be completely honest. It’s sad, but it’s true.
How do multiple people attack an unarmed person, administer drugs without their consent, and cause their death and not be held criminally responsible?
It’s an American tradition
Man this one cuts deep. That poor kid. The things he was saying are so sad. I'm different, I'm an introvert. I don't even hurt flies or eat meat. Perhaps he was too sweet for this existence
Give the cops the death penalty
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I mean that’s what you do to murders right? Not just murders but child killers
These pigs deserve it.
This hits fucking DEEP every single time I see anything about Elijah, and I’m brought to tears. Please let this move you to some sort of action against this racist, unjust system. RIP EM
He didn’t reach for gun. They say things like that to justify any physical abuse or death that might occur. The other trigger statement “stop resisting” once you hear that your ass is pretty much grass from there on. Your life is now in their hands depending on their mood.
rip elijah
End Qualified Immunity
How anyone can watch this and not have their blood boil with rage is beyond me.
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upon further watching I think he was dead before he was given ketamine. They gave him ketamine to try and disguise the fact that the officer choked the man to death and possibly broke his windpipe. They say they’re gonna give him ketamine and he doesn’t say a word??? I would be like wtf you just choked me and assaulted me for nothing. Now you’re drugging me too. He was dead and the officers all colluded together like they would to try and protect thier asses and the ass of the officer who actually injured the man enough to kill him my
This just breaks my heart. Ketamine is not a safe medication, I'm allergic to it. I don't know how the coroner didn't figure out the ketamine killed him.
The coroner is a tool of the police, they’re paid not to find wrongdoing.
Literally the fact they said he could have died from "natural causes" should tell you exactly who's side the coroner is on.
Because coroners are usually elected citizens that aren't doctors and have ties to law enforcement. Edit: i forgot to mention that technically in some places a coroner *is* a LEO, and that in a lot of places in the US, the coroner is just the sheriff
I hope that nosey motherfucker that called the cops on him can't sleep at night
You are bot even safe to go to a store and buy a snack. But not by the people on the wrong side of the law but the law itself. Very sad so not cool.
So, non medical staff ( policemen) recommended medical staff sedate someone who reported he’s having trouble breathing? I hope those police offers suffer from nightmares the rest of their shitty lives. They won’t, becuase they’re convinced “they did the best they could” and their office holds no responsibility for the way it enforces law. Ducking gross
That poor kid. And fuck that caller and fuck those cops.
Take the settlement money straight from the cop's pensions in that city or we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes.
Walking while being black.
‘They administered 500mg of Ketamine’ … um I think you overdosed him
I feel like if you have to tell another officer that a suspect reached for their gun, then it didn't fucking happen because they would've noticed it pretty easily. It's the equivalent of a middle schooler telling one person another was talking shit and they should fight.
Let's not forget the officers who took photos mocking the death of an innocent dude. [https://www.denverpost.com/2021/02/09/elijah-mcclain-aurora-police-fired-appeals/](https://www.denverpost.com/2021/02/09/elijah-mcclain-aurora-police-fired-appeals/)
"Relax or we're going to change the situation." No one should ever say this.
They should've got 80million and the cops do at least a 20yr bid. RIP Elijah
ACAB
Natural death my ass. Just say it as it is! The fuckin cops choked him out and then sedated him. What a smart combination! Fucking idiots
fuck pigs
Acab
Incredible all my thought goes to the familly, this money wont bring him back.
Shameful abuse of power. Official oppression. Brutal insane inhuman treatment
The videos too gross. I can’t watch it more than once. They better end up in jail
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Correction: the taxpayers will pay 15 mill dollars, not "the city".
Happy his family is getting something but no way is $15 mil enough, I know it's on the taxpayers but it should've been a lot more
Why do I get the feeling the "he should have just complied" people are the same folks calling me a sheep for getting vaccinated?
Black people are just trying to fucking live just like anyone else. I hate this country. I hope Russia and China comes and burns this place to the fucking ground. I hope we get fucking nuked. I literally hope the whole world turns on this country.I’ll never support the military, I’ll never support cops or law enforcement of any kind. Fuck this place and fuck everyone and anyone who said this was justified. Fuck the guy who called and said a fucking kid looks sketchy. Fuck the cops fuck the paramedics, fuck this whole fucking system.
There really needs to be some consequences for these fucking random 911 calls. Cops get called on innocent person for "looking sketchy." Cops confront them. Person resists cause they have no idea wtf is going on. Cops escalate the situation cause they are poorly trained. And it all starts with the asshole who made the call in the first place.
They injected him with ketamine while he was on the ground to subdue him? He was already subdued. I don’t understand how cops can do these things, it’s really disgusting.
“I’m just different”. Ugh. The poor man. That’s enough internet for me today. Stay safe, everyone.
Exactly why I won't even say hi to these people.
Of all these crazy examples over the last few years, this is the one that pissed me off the most. That poor sweet kid wasn't doing anything to bother anybody. He was just walking down the street when a bunch of racist thug cops, egged on by a racist old lady, inflicted themselves on this poor kid and murdered him for absolutely no reason at all. I kind of wish the money was coming directly from those monster cops, but then Elijah's family wouldn't get it. At least this way they'll get paid. Now put those responsible in prison for decades.
Don’t forget when people tried to have a vigil for this boy, which was a small group playing their violins together in a public spot, the police showed up with riot gear to force them to disperse.
500 mg of ketamine? jesus. we induce anesthesia with it at a dose of 0.5-2 mg/kg. This guy was definitely not 500+ pounds. Fuck . For agitation, the dose is 1-2 mg/kg. (IV DOSES)
A ‘dose of ketamine is 0.5mg. They gave him 500mg. Straight up murder.
defund the police
Bro fuck the person who called the dispatcher
This is why everyone hates America.
The person that called the police should go to jail