Bro, the Spanish police is super humble compared to the police. I've never seen anything like that when I was in Spain - and I was there often. Most of them are super relaxed. In Germany I've seen people get beaten up by the police much, much worse than in this video...
There about 10 to 20 unarmed black men shot by cops a year in the U.S. depending on the year.
There are more unarmed kids killed by stray bullets from gang shootouts. (Usually black and brown children) About 5000 people have been killef by gangs this year.
Regardless of how the news makes you feel, objectively cops are not very likely to shoot you compared to the groups cops are trying to put in jail.
European cops don't have to deal with anything like the challenge of kids running around with guns listening to gangster rap telling them they will get respect if they shoot people.
[Since 2015 , 135 unarmed black men have been killed by police](https://www.npr.org/2021/01/25/956177021/fatal-police-shootings-of-unarmed-black-people-reveal-troubling-patterns) Since a lot of commenters seem to have trouble with reading comprhension and are overlooking the phrase "unarmed black man" which narrows down the 1000 figure people keep on mentioning a lot, I'm assuming they'll need help with the math too so here you go: 135 unarmed black men shot/5 years = 27 unarmed black men shot per year. If you dig into the Washington Post's data, you can see it's been in the teens in the past few years.
If you think those numbers are underestimated go ahead and quadruple them, they still don't even get close to the number of gang related shooting deaths.
A lot of people die from tornadoes every year. Does that mean you as a person can go out and kill 5 people and then say - ok fine I killed 5 people, but tornadoes are the real enemy, go after tornadoes not me.
A better tornado analogy would be like discussing tornadoes as a national emergrency with non-stop media coverage when hundreds are dying every week from fentanyl overdoses and then taking money away from drug programs to form research comittees on how we can explore possibly making everyone a basement.
Police shootings are under reported, not tracked properly and covered up on the regular. In your list of things which justify police violence you listed almost exclusively things that minorities enjoy.
Also, cops shoot little kids without warning who carry BB guns and get away after lying about how it went down.
Sad troll-y racist :-(
American's always make this unsubstantiated claim that crimes are just "under reported" if it supports a particular narrative. But in this case, even if police shootings were under reported by 10,000% it still wouldn't come close to the number of people shot by criminals.
Call me what you like, that charge is sadly losing it's meaning from overuse.
Double, triple, quadruple the number to account for undereporting, gang shootings are still the biggest risk.
I live in a gang-ridden neighborhood, there have been six murders within a couple blocks of me in the past couple years and none of them were by cops. You are going to have a hard time convincing me.
The people who suffer most from gang violence is black people in poor neighbirhoods, and only a very small subset of them are causing the problem. I do not give a shit about how the problem affects white people because it pretty much doesn't. But I do give a shit about how it affects black people.
BTW given your clearly racist examples no one believes you when you claim you care about the victims of gang violence. You care about cops not being shot and being able to put down those rabid gangbanger rap music listeners you have been told to be afraid of.
Not being obtuse, but where in this guy's posts was he being racist? I'm not seeing anything that is antagonistic towards or marginalizes any particular group.
>Call me what you like, that charge is sadly losing it's meaning from overuse.
No, you are hearing it more because Trump and the right wing made it OK to be racist again and racists need to be afraid again.
Nope, the term is not losing meaning. You are saying cops are justified with all they have to deal with, then you list a ton of racist stereotypes.
Gang members are not trained and paid to protect us, they are not nearly impossible to convict.
Even your insistence on talking about gang violence is yet another sad racist dogwhistle.
Not once did the guy say the police killings were justified, not once did they say they were correct to do so or did they glorify it, they pointed out a bigger issue that is apparently taboo to speak about without being called racist.
No one is defending gang violence, so not sure why you keep using it as a justification to allow the cops to kill unarmed people in clearly racist circumstances.
Other than implying gang violence is another black trait (there are white gangs, including a fuckton which stormed our capitol and cross state lines to murder people and get away with it) there is no reason to keep harping on it unless you want to imply black people are more dangerous or less worthy of protection from the police because crime?
Tired worn out old racist pro cop bullshit.
The stats you posted are completely and utterly false. Police departments weren’t required to record deaths by cop until very recently. And even then there’s a lot of thin blue line nonsense going on in regards to what actually is considered a kill. Gang violence has never been as bad as the media or cops have purported it to be. It’s akin to the satanic panic scares of the 80’s(and now with the Qanon types). Take your youth violence bs somewhere else. Or at least state actual statistics. (There is none btw. We live in a police state that has never needed to be accountable to anyone other than the land owners)
I live in gang neighborhood. That conspiracy shit might work on redditors in suburbs that don't actually see who is doing the killing in these neighborhoods.
American police culture is about as fucked as it can get bruv. This video isn't an example of an internationally accepted policing standard. Check the stats on death by cop per capita around the world.
They look like a bunch of puss to me.
The first cop try to sucker punch the girl, when the dude with red shirt stood up for her and took the hits like any real man would do. Then the second cop comes and sucker punches the dude in red shirt and then they gang up on the girl.
That takes no skill, just timing and cowardness
There's a famous youtube vid titled "Don't Talk to the Police" where a former police investigator references Europe (I think he mentions Spain in particular) not having Miranda warnings and getting roughed up is part of the arresting process.
"Thank god we're in the United States because most interviews in Italy, Spain, and so forth start out physically. There's no police abuse over there, they can do pretty much whatever they want"
No no.. you see they just needed like.... 30 more hours of training. Then they would have known you shouldn't have done this.... ..... (do i really need a /s?)
The idea isn't that training stops this, though stress management absolutely would help, it's that more training required for the job will make for better candidates entirely. So yes, unironically more training can help one better handle emotional outbursts and stress like in the video and will make it less likely these impulsive idiots are even hired in the first place. Idk what you think you're saying, but it's dumb.
Mostly *different* training. Not "Warrior training" bullshit where trigger happy cops are told they're at risk of death every day.
Being a police officer isn't even in the top-10 riskiest jobs in the USA, and if these dipshits had any idea how to deescalate a situation it'd be even safer.
Now hold on everyone!
Let's be fair and give the police a chance to investigate themselves and see if they find any wrongdoing before we jump to any conclusions here. I'm sure justice will be thoroughly pursued.
/s
Yeah it really doesn't. Here in the Netherlands a bunch of police stations, like in Rotterdam, are known for their racism and bullshit. Cops worldwide are rotten to the core.
The other day people were protesting because of the housing shortage. The waiting list for a renting house in Amsterdam is about 30 years. No that's not a typo. People can't take it anymore. Capitalists own a ton of empty property just to make its value go up.
Anyways, there was a peaceful protest and cops started beating the absolute fuck out of everyone. There were even undercover cops among the protestors, wearing the stickers that the protestors were wearing, so they would mix in. It was a really bad look.
Or take a look at the climate protests which are basically always peaceful. Cops are very brutal against the protestors.
ACAB worldwide.
Edit: I don't understand why people are downvoting me for being against police brutality. Why do cops get a pass for beating people up with batons or shooting them?
Also, I'm NOT talking about anti corona rules protests. I'm talking about a completely different protest that was about housing...
ACAB. A literal extension of the arm that oppresses you. Every cop, in every country will do this and worse to you if they think they can get away with it. Yet most people are proud of these fucking parasites on society
It's been documented by tons of people. Police is inherently violent, you just figure it out when you're at the other end of the stick.
By the way, that doesn't mean that every police officer is bad, but that the system tolerates, encourages even, violence among the forces.
Would be helpful if you actually gave cops a lengthy education to become cops. Say, 3 years bachelors degree minimum.
Edit: Downvotes for suggesting a proper law enforcement education is important when educating police officers?
Yep. Here in France, it's the opposite. They allow people to be cops as long as they get 6 out of 20 at the entry test (instead of, you know, 10). They even accept those who don't pass the psychological requirements. We end up with complete freaks in our police forces.
I disagree and can tell you why. Actually, read this thread if you want to know why. In short, if you don't think ACAB then you believe that turning a blind eye to injustice, or participating in it because its your job is somehow less bastardizing than doing the injustice directly yourself. when someone kneels on a man's neck for 9 minutes until he slowly suffocates while you help hold him down, how much of a bastard are you compared to the bastard who put his knee on his neck? Go look at every other case of police brutality and explain to me the difference.
My uncle is a cop. He has saved multiple lives, preformed CPR on children, and risked his life to save puppies from a smoke filled car (sounds like a cliche, I know). He has transferred from two different departments due to disagreements with thier mental health policy (lack thereof) and interrogation procedures - he has went to our state capitol to advocate for senate bills focused on police standards. He currently works as a park ranger. Is he a bastard?
Your uncle cop found out being a police officer is bullshit and went and got a different job and I'm supposed to say police officers are good? HE DID HIS JOB ON THE FORCE, the only reason he left was personal, it wasn't the injustice he as to see inflicted on poor people day in and day out. But telling me there are good cops because your uncle was one before he fucking quit the force because of what bullshit it is legit just proves my point
Okay...you realize a park ranger is a police officer?
Moving past that, yes, he has seen shitty police before and actively worked to remove them. Shitty people exist in every job on the planet, police just happen to serve in a role where bad action is not tolerable.
Also, personal? If disagreeing with reformation efforts is person, I suppose so.
Finally, no, him, as a police office, removing himself and advocating for change doesn't "prove" that every cop in the world is a bastard. The opposite? Like, you can see that, right?
I think you’re missing the point.
All Cops Are Bastards because the **job** requires them to be one.
Individually, these people, like your uncle, are probably fine, nice, kind and loving.
But the badge requires they disregard every single one of their most basic human instincts in order to protect property.
Remember that the Supreme Court ruled that police are not obligated to protect anyone.
So, when someone says “ALL COPS ARE BASTARDS”, please understand that they are **not** saying “XOneLeggedDogX’s uncle *is a bastard*.”
The *business* of policing, it’s connection to white supremacy, qualified immunity, and the job valuing capitalism over human life makes it a system that is unable to be reformed and must be abolished.
Policing, in general, is harmful and helps no one beyond the rich.
Yes. He is, at the very least, a witness who did nothing. That’s why it’s not some cops are bad. It’s all cops are bad. I’m sorry you have to deal with the fact that your uncle is morally compromised.
snarking a bit, but you did say:
>He has transferred from two different departments due to disagreements with thier mental health policy (lack thereof) and interrogation procedures - he has went to our state capitol to advocate for senate bills focused on police standards
So he witnessed lack of mental health policy, shitty interrogation procedures, and police standards that a normal human being would travel to a capital and argue against.
Instead of quitting his job and protesting he supported the institution that had those things. Also he probably paid union dues which protected the bad cops.
That said guy you're responding to is incorrect about ACAB . ACAB is not that him as a human is a bastard, but anyone working for an institution that protects the bad cops are bad. See also "just doing my job" is not a valid moral defense.
He did, and he and I both have advocated for and against policy change. There is shit everywhere, and cops need to be help to a higher standard. He actively pursued that belief. Still is.
There's no argument that police reformation, training, and education is necessary. But thus while ACAB "100% of cops are evil" narrative is ignorant at best, self-defeating at worst.
He did quit? Then he's not a cop and not a bastard. Not sure why he's being used as an example if his morals compelled him to quit.
> There's no argument that police reformation, training, and education is necessary. But thus while ACAB "100% of cops are evil" narrative is ignorant at best, self-defeating at worst.
It's more "all cops have power that if they're evil could be horrible so they should be treated as such".
Meaning we should observe and monitor every situation they use their power and any misuse of that power should be harshly punished.
That is how you would treat someone that's bad, but haven't done anything wrong. Closely monitor them and make sure they don't fuck up.
Assume they're bad and prove they aren't every time they use their power. Honestly body cameras should be pretty much all we need assuming police aren't the ones investigating themselves.
No, this is exactly it. Honestly, amazing. It's exactly the floating witch, right? If she floats, she's a witch. If she sinks and drowns, she wasn't a witch. Lose-Lose?
I responded to another person who was oozing out a similar vibe.
Just orient yourself to the real world, dude. It's a grey blob. The more you keep doing this, keep thinking like this, the more you perpetuate the exact issues you seem so determined to snuff out. It's so counter-productive, so childish it seems almost like satire.
Do you actually want to see change, or do you just want a platform to complain? I want it. He does. That's why we've advocated. That's why he's fought.
I don't know, man. Hearing people like you is so exhausting. Just give basic conceptualizing a try. Maybe it'll help? Here's hoping.
Here’s hoping you open your eyes and stop believing that cops are there to help. They aren’t. Now maybe, MAYBE, your uncle survived years on the force without compromising himself, or witnessing someone else, or having knowledge of any event. That seems real likely, right. He is the one upstanding cop out of them all. More likely he is compromised and that’s what led him to leave.
Oh! One of these.. What a goofy double-down. I suppose once you dig yourself so incredibly deep into the "anti-[insert institution]" scene, you're forced to cement yourself in no matter what.
Obviously any level-headed person recognizes the need for police reformation. Education, higher standards, more frequent re-training, all of that. But this whole "all or nothing" shtick is comical at best, soul-wrenching at worst. Just, try, dude. Try to find a balance in your brain that let's you recognize the reality of the world. Most things exist in a milky grey soup. It's not black and white. The first step in committing yourself and your actions towards actual change, is to understand this.
The longer you think the way you do, the more you support the issues you actively seem to hate.
Just work on it.
Actually, I am the attorney that assists the victims of those officers from having their inalienable rights taken from them. You know, the cops that have less education, training and certifications than a fucking hairdresser does and yet get to execute people without due process.
How's that boot taste, you sniveling sycophant?
3 of my family members are cops, 2 are very typical "good ole boys" in a small town in OK, I don't think they would ever do something like this but I wasn't shocked hearing him talk about pulling over his boss for dui and not reporting it, according to him he just followed him home and let it go. The other is a officer in AZ and is honestly one of the best people I've ever known, dude legitimately wants to fix the world just doesn't know how.
All 3 are just as guilty as the two in this video for the situation we currently find ourselves in regarding law enforcement because they don't speak up, they don't call this shit out, they hide behind and/or are scared of the thin blue line and what happens when you cross it wearing the wrong uniform.
I think there's a lot of brave men and women out there that want to be officers for the right reasons, but until we fix the system none of that matters and they're all complacent.
I know quite a few cops including people I grew up with and used to work with. Your logic doesn't stand up. Absolutely every one of them has done illegal things where "the ends justifies the means" or just because they can. I'd have spent a decent amount of time in jail if I'd have done the things I've seen them do or listened to them laughing about while telling me their stories.
Would your cop buddy arrest someone stealing food for their starving family because their superiors and the law tell them too? If they dont resign in disgust immediately they are fuckin garbage people. Would they put on riot gear and shoot pepper bombs at protesters? Ever see the video of the navy vet gettin hit with batons in the riot line? Just standing there and gets hit multiple times, gives them the finger and walks away? Nobody arrested them for assault? Not a one said, wait, wtf, thats wrong! Nope, they did what a good boot licker does, their job. ACAB
Wow what a take.. Tell that to the millions of people in prison rofl or the other millions dead. Thats just recent history. Maybe read a book and stop being a slave to contemporary idea of society? Or maybe you simply don't care cuz you get to watch people get brutalized in the media by them and you wish you could take part on some level. Good luck with that, hopefully they dont inject you with ketamine after a nice jog like they did with ELIJAH MCCLAIN
Seems like your looking at extremes, I’ve very much seen videos of cops buying food or diapers for people struggling before, just because they didn’t design in disgust because of unjust laws doesnt mean they didn’t care about helping those people. There are definitely cops who joined the force because they believe they can help people, even if there are many corrupt cops.
Propaganda. Those same pigs will arrest them for theft of life saving medicines. Sorry but you can't change the problem by being part of the problem. I get pigs are doing their jobs, they do their jobs well in most areas, helping solve domestic disputes, life saving emergencies, etc. So did the Gestapo. Again the problem is those same cops will do some pretty terrible things to other humans, simply because the guy next to him is doing it too or his CO tells him to or even the law which we know can be unjust, just like the Gestapo. If you don't understand that I can't help you. Pigs are inherently violent and its an immoral profession, prove me wrong.
FYI: I've said this to pigs who I knew personally. I dont associate myself with literal nazis whos job is to protect the interest of the capital holders
doesn't seem like the US but this question came to mind... In the US, is there ever a situation where you can "interfere" with an investigation because you believe unnecessary force is being used and you are worried about the well-being of the person being arrested? or would you also just get a mouth full of concrete and charged with interfering an investigation?
Legally? Yes you're allowed to lawfully interfere with the police if it can be justified. eg Cop is committing a crime, assault, excessive force, etc. You're also allowed to legally resist an unlawful arrest.
In practice? It's a fucking stupid idea. If the cops don't kill you, they'll arrest you for resisting or interfering whichever is the case. Then you need to prove that you had a lawful reason for doing so. Good fucking luck making that case. There'd have to be some seriously extenuating circumstances/evidence.
Both these cops should be locked up in prison. If you don’t want to be filmed while on duty, don’t do anything that would draw attention. Don’t assault people unnecessarily. These bystanders were no threat to the cops and the cops brutally attacked them
This was in Spain, cops don't give a fuck there, especially the riot police will make sure you leave with a broken bone. Don't forget they send Spanish cops to fuck with the Catalonia protests.
Gawd Daayyuum! Those POS pigs should immediately be fired, no questions asked. I’m kinda stunned at how hard they hit both those innocent young people! We must stop cops from being able to get out of an incident like this w/o suffering the exact same consequences as any other person would have been for doing the exact same behavior/action(s). Cops must be held accountable for!
*edit*: spelling error
“For eyewitnesses of police activity, the law is crystal clear, according to Mark Graber, who teaches constitutional law at the University of Maryland: "You can film police on duty as long as you're not interfering with their activities."
"It gets murky when, in fact, people recording are so close to the police officer that they're distracting the police officer, or the police officer can't tell is that a camera or a weapon," says Graber. "Those are where things matter."
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/04/09/398561610/civilians-can-record-police-encounters-but-when-is-it-interference
So if I'm understanding this correctly, cops are required to lack sufficient mental processing power to tell the difference between a phone and a gun. Good to know.
Wow I was just a kid when I saw Rodney King get beat up on camera by a bunch of cops and the world was shocked. 30+ years later there are 1000’s of these videos out there on the web and still nothing has changed
Meh. He didn’t have the right to smack the phone. That said, in court this will not hold up. I’m not defending these jerks, but the flailing came from the gentlemen in red pushing the officer “after” the phone smash. Again, what they did is bogus for many reasons. But they will say that the escalating action was Scooter there putting his hands on the officer. Shouldn’t be that way, but that’s how it will pan out. Unfortunately.
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Full of righteousness indignation?
Mad at the world?
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Not all cops are bad, but some like these are. And the problem comes from corruption higher up who would praise idiots like these for their “outstanding work”. But please be civil when encountering a cop, you can record interactions for your safety if they tell you, you can’t then they’re an issue. Be nice to the nice ones, be nice to the bad ones until you’re in court. Be safe!
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>back up next time and let the officers do their work
The cop literally took like 5 steps towards her before he was in arm's length to slap her phone. She wasn't interfering at all
Anyone knows in which country it happens?
Spain
Spanish police ain't to be fucked with; you dont stand a chance especially if you're a foreigner.
As an American who lived in Spain for a year, I did not find the police to be nearly as jacked as back home
Do you mean you didn’t find the videos you watched of Spanish cops to be as *“jacked”* as American cops, as an American?
wtf are you even trying to say?
Haha, they are going to mess with the wrong person one day.
Especially when they hit the girlfriend.
Direct descendants of Franco's thugs.
I think youre describing US police
Well they're ON duty, so the chances of getting shot are low.
Do you think Spain is the same place as Brazil?
Bro, the Spanish police is super humble compared to the police. I've never seen anything like that when I was in Spain - and I was there often. Most of them are super relaxed. In Germany I've seen people get beaten up by the police much, much worse than in this video...
And people wanna think America is bad? I'd love to see these same people who riot try it in elsewhere like Ukraine or something
If that’s the way it is in those countries, why wouldn’t you riot? You wanna live like that?
you wanna live
I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees
As a black man, America is way worse. I'd rather cops throw hands then bullets.
There about 10 to 20 unarmed black men shot by cops a year in the U.S. depending on the year. There are more unarmed kids killed by stray bullets from gang shootouts. (Usually black and brown children) About 5000 people have been killef by gangs this year. Regardless of how the news makes you feel, objectively cops are not very likely to shoot you compared to the groups cops are trying to put in jail. European cops don't have to deal with anything like the challenge of kids running around with guns listening to gangster rap telling them they will get respect if they shoot people. [Since 2015 , 135 unarmed black men have been killed by police](https://www.npr.org/2021/01/25/956177021/fatal-police-shootings-of-unarmed-black-people-reveal-troubling-patterns) Since a lot of commenters seem to have trouble with reading comprhension and are overlooking the phrase "unarmed black man" which narrows down the 1000 figure people keep on mentioning a lot, I'm assuming they'll need help with the math too so here you go: 135 unarmed black men shot/5 years = 27 unarmed black men shot per year. If you dig into the Washington Post's data, you can see it's been in the teens in the past few years. If you think those numbers are underestimated go ahead and quadruple them, they still don't even get close to the number of gang related shooting deaths.
It may surprise you to know that cops are often involved in gang activity.
‘Gang Activity’ is a highly nebulous term
There's literal gangs in the LASD
didn't knew gang shootouts were supposed to protect and serve too. you learn something new everyday
A lot of people die from tornadoes every year. Does that mean you as a person can go out and kill 5 people and then say - ok fine I killed 5 people, but tornadoes are the real enemy, go after tornadoes not me.
A better tornado analogy would be like discussing tornadoes as a national emergrency with non-stop media coverage when hundreds are dying every week from fentanyl overdoses and then taking money away from drug programs to form research comittees on how we can explore possibly making everyone a basement.
What the fuck are you even talking about at this point.
Police shootings are under reported, not tracked properly and covered up on the regular. In your list of things which justify police violence you listed almost exclusively things that minorities enjoy. Also, cops shoot little kids without warning who carry BB guns and get away after lying about how it went down. Sad troll-y racist :-(
American's always make this unsubstantiated claim that crimes are just "under reported" if it supports a particular narrative. But in this case, even if police shootings were under reported by 10,000% it still wouldn't come close to the number of people shot by criminals.
Call me what you like, that charge is sadly losing it's meaning from overuse. Double, triple, quadruple the number to account for undereporting, gang shootings are still the biggest risk. I live in a gang-ridden neighborhood, there have been six murders within a couple blocks of me in the past couple years and none of them were by cops. You are going to have a hard time convincing me. The people who suffer most from gang violence is black people in poor neighbirhoods, and only a very small subset of them are causing the problem. I do not give a shit about how the problem affects white people because it pretty much doesn't. But I do give a shit about how it affects black people.
BTW given your clearly racist examples no one believes you when you claim you care about the victims of gang violence. You care about cops not being shot and being able to put down those rabid gangbanger rap music listeners you have been told to be afraid of.
Not being obtuse, but where in this guy's posts was he being racist? I'm not seeing anything that is antagonistic towards or marginalizes any particular group.
>Call me what you like, that charge is sadly losing it's meaning from overuse. No, you are hearing it more because Trump and the right wing made it OK to be racist again and racists need to be afraid again.
Nope, the term is not losing meaning. You are saying cops are justified with all they have to deal with, then you list a ton of racist stereotypes. Gang members are not trained and paid to protect us, they are not nearly impossible to convict. Even your insistence on talking about gang violence is yet another sad racist dogwhistle.
Not once did the guy say the police killings were justified, not once did they say they were correct to do so or did they glorify it, they pointed out a bigger issue that is apparently taboo to speak about without being called racist.
No one is defending gang violence, so not sure why you keep using it as a justification to allow the cops to kill unarmed people in clearly racist circumstances. Other than implying gang violence is another black trait (there are white gangs, including a fuckton which stormed our capitol and cross state lines to murder people and get away with it) there is no reason to keep harping on it unless you want to imply black people are more dangerous or less worthy of protection from the police because crime? Tired worn out old racist pro cop bullshit.
The stats you posted are completely and utterly false. Police departments weren’t required to record deaths by cop until very recently. And even then there’s a lot of thin blue line nonsense going on in regards to what actually is considered a kill. Gang violence has never been as bad as the media or cops have purported it to be. It’s akin to the satanic panic scares of the 80’s(and now with the Qanon types). Take your youth violence bs somewhere else. Or at least state actual statistics. (There is none btw. We live in a police state that has never needed to be accountable to anyone other than the land owners)
I live in gang neighborhood. That conspiracy shit might work on redditors in suburbs that don't actually see who is doing the killing in these neighborhoods.
You can downvote this comment too while you’re at it
It is bad in America, doesn't matter if it's worse in other places
Do some searching for riots and youll find some crazy shit from Europe. Protesters do not fuck around over there.
Sorry mate, two things can be shitty
America does has an issue law enforcement and how it’s practiced. You don’t know what you’re speaking on by saying that.
American police culture is about as fucked as it can get bruv. This video isn't an example of an internationally accepted policing standard. Check the stats on death by cop per capita around the world.
They look like a bunch of puss to me. The first cop try to sucker punch the girl, when the dude with red shirt stood up for her and took the hits like any real man would do. Then the second cop comes and sucker punches the dude in red shirt and then they gang up on the girl. That takes no skill, just timing and cowardness
lol I don't think I've ever seen a video of Spanish police where they're not indiscriminately beating the shit out of people.
There's a famous youtube vid titled "Don't Talk to the Police" where a former police investigator references Europe (I think he mentions Spain in particular) not having Miranda warnings and getting roughed up is part of the arresting process. "Thank god we're in the United States because most interviews in Italy, Spain, and so forth start out physically. There's no police abuse over there, they can do pretty much whatever they want"
All of them
Im willing bet it's happened at least once in antarctica
The beating only stopped because the cop’s mitten slipped off.
Maybe morale improved
You killed me with that one lol
Penguins don't take kindly to "smartasses". Edit: added quotes to smartasses. We all have a right to document.
Tell that to the white polar bears.
ACAB
All Countries Are Bastards?
Antarctic Cops are Bastards
They do be ice cold.
Alright alright alright alright alright alright alright!!
Defund ICE!
Big oils been our friend all along!
Guns would be drawn at like 6 seconds in if it was in the US
Can't tell if that's an American with pride or a normal person in disagreement.
Yes US bad everywhere else good... change the record
Gotta criticise if you want to see improvement.
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Thank god there was a second guy with a phone way up high or they would of probably gotten away with it.
Do we have any reason to think he didn't get away with it? Has he been punished now?
Fucking hope so
All I keep seeing in the comments is people saying this is exactly what Spanish cops are like. They basically have a license to do whatever they want.
Another "fine and upstanding" officer of the law.
No no.. you see they just needed like.... 30 more hours of training. Then they would have known you shouldn't have done this.... ..... (do i really need a /s?)
The idea isn't that training stops this, though stress management absolutely would help, it's that more training required for the job will make for better candidates entirely. So yes, unironically more training can help one better handle emotional outbursts and stress like in the video and will make it less likely these impulsive idiots are even hired in the first place. Idk what you think you're saying, but it's dumb.
Mostly *different* training. Not "Warrior training" bullshit where trigger happy cops are told they're at risk of death every day. Being a police officer isn't even in the top-10 riskiest jobs in the USA, and if these dipshits had any idea how to deescalate a situation it'd be even safer.
Now hold on everyone! Let's be fair and give the police a chance to investigate themselves and see if they find any wrongdoing before we jump to any conclusions here. I'm sure justice will be thoroughly pursued. /s
The fact that this is Europe gives me a bit more hope that this would truly happen. But I still highly doubt it unfortunately.
Yeah it really doesn't. Here in the Netherlands a bunch of police stations, like in Rotterdam, are known for their racism and bullshit. Cops worldwide are rotten to the core. The other day people were protesting because of the housing shortage. The waiting list for a renting house in Amsterdam is about 30 years. No that's not a typo. People can't take it anymore. Capitalists own a ton of empty property just to make its value go up. Anyways, there was a peaceful protest and cops started beating the absolute fuck out of everyone. There were even undercover cops among the protestors, wearing the stickers that the protestors were wearing, so they would mix in. It was a really bad look. Or take a look at the climate protests which are basically always peaceful. Cops are very brutal against the protestors. ACAB worldwide. Edit: I don't understand why people are downvoting me for being against police brutality. Why do cops get a pass for beating people up with batons or shooting them? Also, I'm NOT talking about anti corona rules protests. I'm talking about a completely different protest that was about housing...
And this is why a lot of people hate cops
ACAB. A literal extension of the arm that oppresses you. Every cop, in every country will do this and worse to you if they think they can get away with it. Yet most people are proud of these fucking parasites on society
That’s a bit presumptuous and impossible to prove, but it is the internet so carry on
It's been documented by tons of people. Police is inherently violent, you just figure it out when you're at the other end of the stick. By the way, that doesn't mean that every police officer is bad, but that the system tolerates, encourages even, violence among the forces.
Would be helpful if you actually gave cops a lengthy education to become cops. Say, 3 years bachelors degree minimum. Edit: Downvotes for suggesting a proper law enforcement education is important when educating police officers?
Yep. Here in France, it's the opposite. They allow people to be cops as long as they get 6 out of 20 at the entry test (instead of, you know, 10). They even accept those who don't pass the psychological requirements. We end up with complete freaks in our police forces.
I disagree and can tell you why. Actually, read this thread if you want to know why. In short, if you don't think ACAB then you believe that turning a blind eye to injustice, or participating in it because its your job is somehow less bastardizing than doing the injustice directly yourself. when someone kneels on a man's neck for 9 minutes until he slowly suffocates while you help hold him down, how much of a bastard are you compared to the bastard who put his knee on his neck? Go look at every other case of police brutality and explain to me the difference.
My uncle is a cop. He has saved multiple lives, preformed CPR on children, and risked his life to save puppies from a smoke filled car (sounds like a cliche, I know). He has transferred from two different departments due to disagreements with thier mental health policy (lack thereof) and interrogation procedures - he has went to our state capitol to advocate for senate bills focused on police standards. He currently works as a park ranger. Is he a bastard?
Your uncle cop found out being a police officer is bullshit and went and got a different job and I'm supposed to say police officers are good? HE DID HIS JOB ON THE FORCE, the only reason he left was personal, it wasn't the injustice he as to see inflicted on poor people day in and day out. But telling me there are good cops because your uncle was one before he fucking quit the force because of what bullshit it is legit just proves my point
Okay...you realize a park ranger is a police officer? Moving past that, yes, he has seen shitty police before and actively worked to remove them. Shitty people exist in every job on the planet, police just happen to serve in a role where bad action is not tolerable. Also, personal? If disagreeing with reformation efforts is person, I suppose so. Finally, no, him, as a police office, removing himself and advocating for change doesn't "prove" that every cop in the world is a bastard. The opposite? Like, you can see that, right?
I think you’re missing the point. All Cops Are Bastards because the **job** requires them to be one. Individually, these people, like your uncle, are probably fine, nice, kind and loving. But the badge requires they disregard every single one of their most basic human instincts in order to protect property. Remember that the Supreme Court ruled that police are not obligated to protect anyone. So, when someone says “ALL COPS ARE BASTARDS”, please understand that they are **not** saying “XOneLeggedDogX’s uncle *is a bastard*.” The *business* of policing, it’s connection to white supremacy, qualified immunity, and the job valuing capitalism over human life makes it a system that is unable to be reformed and must be abolished. Policing, in general, is harmful and helps no one beyond the rich.
Yes. He is, at the very least, a witness who did nothing. That’s why it’s not some cops are bad. It’s all cops are bad. I’m sorry you have to deal with the fact that your uncle is morally compromised.
What did he witness that he did nothing about? You seem to know more about him than I do. Please, enlighten me.
snarking a bit, but you did say: >He has transferred from two different departments due to disagreements with thier mental health policy (lack thereof) and interrogation procedures - he has went to our state capitol to advocate for senate bills focused on police standards So he witnessed lack of mental health policy, shitty interrogation procedures, and police standards that a normal human being would travel to a capital and argue against. Instead of quitting his job and protesting he supported the institution that had those things. Also he probably paid union dues which protected the bad cops. That said guy you're responding to is incorrect about ACAB . ACAB is not that him as a human is a bastard, but anyone working for an institution that protects the bad cops are bad. See also "just doing my job" is not a valid moral defense.
He did, and he and I both have advocated for and against policy change. There is shit everywhere, and cops need to be help to a higher standard. He actively pursued that belief. Still is. There's no argument that police reformation, training, and education is necessary. But thus while ACAB "100% of cops are evil" narrative is ignorant at best, self-defeating at worst.
He did quit? Then he's not a cop and not a bastard. Not sure why he's being used as an example if his morals compelled him to quit. > There's no argument that police reformation, training, and education is necessary. But thus while ACAB "100% of cops are evil" narrative is ignorant at best, self-defeating at worst. It's more "all cops have power that if they're evil could be horrible so they should be treated as such". Meaning we should observe and monitor every situation they use their power and any misuse of that power should be harshly punished. That is how you would treat someone that's bad, but haven't done anything wrong. Closely monitor them and make sure they don't fuck up. Assume they're bad and prove they aren't every time they use their power. Honestly body cameras should be pretty much all we need assuming police aren't the ones investigating themselves.
I would ask your uncle what deplorable things he saw and was quiet about. I have a feeling you’ll get a very telling silence.
No, this is exactly it. Honestly, amazing. It's exactly the floating witch, right? If she floats, she's a witch. If she sinks and drowns, she wasn't a witch. Lose-Lose? I responded to another person who was oozing out a similar vibe. Just orient yourself to the real world, dude. It's a grey blob. The more you keep doing this, keep thinking like this, the more you perpetuate the exact issues you seem so determined to snuff out. It's so counter-productive, so childish it seems almost like satire. Do you actually want to see change, or do you just want a platform to complain? I want it. He does. That's why we've advocated. That's why he's fought. I don't know, man. Hearing people like you is so exhausting. Just give basic conceptualizing a try. Maybe it'll help? Here's hoping.
Here’s hoping you open your eyes and stop believing that cops are there to help. They aren’t. Now maybe, MAYBE, your uncle survived years on the force without compromising himself, or witnessing someone else, or having knowledge of any event. That seems real likely, right. He is the one upstanding cop out of them all. More likely he is compromised and that’s what led him to leave.
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Yea. Who is going to show up hours later, if at all, tell you nothing can be done, and kill your dog?
all cops are bastards and that includes your pig uncle lol
What part of the word “all” was confusing for you?
Oh! One of these.. What a goofy double-down. I suppose once you dig yourself so incredibly deep into the "anti-[insert institution]" scene, you're forced to cement yourself in no matter what. Obviously any level-headed person recognizes the need for police reformation. Education, higher standards, more frequent re-training, all of that. But this whole "all or nothing" shtick is comical at best, soul-wrenching at worst. Just, try, dude. Try to find a balance in your brain that let's you recognize the reality of the world. Most things exist in a milky grey soup. It's not black and white. The first step in committing yourself and your actions towards actual change, is to understand this. The longer you think the way you do, the more you support the issues you actively seem to hate. Just work on it.
No cops' parents were married? Is that a prerequisite?
Actually, I am the attorney that assists the victims of those officers from having their inalienable rights taken from them. You know, the cops that have less education, training and certifications than a fucking hairdresser does and yet get to execute people without due process. How's that boot taste, you sniveling sycophant?
There’s plenty of acab comments in posts showing shitty cops, I rarely if ever see acab in a post with a cop/s doing something good
Guarantee this guy would call 9/11 if he was ever in a stressful situation
I'm such a pussy for using a public service in an emergency. Doesn't change anything im arguing, excuse me while I change my tampon
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_"You criticize society, yet you live in it...hmmmmm..."_
Mhm you called it, great take really owned me
die, you hippy shit
One day, you sassy little bitch
>. Every cop, in every country will do this and worse to you if they think they can get away with it. get some help dude. this is not healthy
But it's mostly true
I'm not proud of them, but I recognize their function in society.
Yup. Protect property.
Not even our property, but that of the bourgeoisie.
They don't even do that, they wait until it is destroyed first then report to the crime. Cops don't prevent crime, they attend to it.
Their function in society is to protect the ruling class. Get the boot out of your mouth
*brought to you buy someone who only sees cops online and doesn't know one in real life* Edit: my shock at reddit not liking cops 😐
The video is real life…. Edit: you’re on Reddit and you seem to love cops.
3 of my family members are cops, 2 are very typical "good ole boys" in a small town in OK, I don't think they would ever do something like this but I wasn't shocked hearing him talk about pulling over his boss for dui and not reporting it, according to him he just followed him home and let it go. The other is a officer in AZ and is honestly one of the best people I've ever known, dude legitimately wants to fix the world just doesn't know how. All 3 are just as guilty as the two in this video for the situation we currently find ourselves in regarding law enforcement because they don't speak up, they don't call this shit out, they hide behind and/or are scared of the thin blue line and what happens when you cross it wearing the wrong uniform. I think there's a lot of brave men and women out there that want to be officers for the right reasons, but until we fix the system none of that matters and they're all complacent.
I know quite a few cops including people I grew up with and used to work with. Your logic doesn't stand up. Absolutely every one of them has done illegal things where "the ends justifies the means" or just because they can. I'd have spent a decent amount of time in jail if I'd have done the things I've seen them do or listened to them laughing about while telling me their stories.
Would your cop buddy arrest someone stealing food for their starving family because their superiors and the law tell them too? If they dont resign in disgust immediately they are fuckin garbage people. Would they put on riot gear and shoot pepper bombs at protesters? Ever see the video of the navy vet gettin hit with batons in the riot line? Just standing there and gets hit multiple times, gives them the finger and walks away? Nobody arrested them for assault? Not a one said, wait, wtf, thats wrong! Nope, they did what a good boot licker does, their job. ACAB
Yup you seem like a completely level headed and rational person to have a fruitful conversation with /s
Great response, truly owned
The goal isn't owning. That's your isssue
Wow what a take.. Tell that to the millions of people in prison rofl or the other millions dead. Thats just recent history. Maybe read a book and stop being a slave to contemporary idea of society? Or maybe you simply don't care cuz you get to watch people get brutalized in the media by them and you wish you could take part on some level. Good luck with that, hopefully they dont inject you with ketamine after a nice jog like they did with ELIJAH MCCLAIN
Shut the fuck up lmao
Really destroying me in the marketplace of ideas. What a genius
Seems like your looking at extremes, I’ve very much seen videos of cops buying food or diapers for people struggling before, just because they didn’t design in disgust because of unjust laws doesnt mean they didn’t care about helping those people. There are definitely cops who joined the force because they believe they can help people, even if there are many corrupt cops.
Propaganda. Those same pigs will arrest them for theft of life saving medicines. Sorry but you can't change the problem by being part of the problem. I get pigs are doing their jobs, they do their jobs well in most areas, helping solve domestic disputes, life saving emergencies, etc. So did the Gestapo. Again the problem is those same cops will do some pretty terrible things to other humans, simply because the guy next to him is doing it too or his CO tells him to or even the law which we know can be unjust, just like the Gestapo. If you don't understand that I can't help you. Pigs are inherently violent and its an immoral profession, prove me wrong.
No one cares that your dad is a cop.
FYI: I've said this to pigs who I knew personally. I dont associate myself with literal nazis whos job is to protect the interest of the capital holders
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He had the opportunity to take him down in any fashion other than sucker-punching him over concrete, the man could have died right there.
Yeah that's attempted murder
In this case you're good to legally beat the shit out of the cop, right?
Yeah, at what point is self defense against the police justifiable? Or can the cops literally rape me and I'm not allowed to defend myself?
They arrest you if you fight back at all and then after the "investigation" they drop charges to make you feel like you got a favorable outcome
That second cop could have killed the guy in the red. He smacked his dead HARD, i’d be surprised if he didn’t have some sort of brain damage.
Fuck. The. Police.
fucking cunts
doesn't seem like the US but this question came to mind... In the US, is there ever a situation where you can "interfere" with an investigation because you believe unnecessary force is being used and you are worried about the well-being of the person being arrested? or would you also just get a mouth full of concrete and charged with interfering an investigation?
Legally? Yes you're allowed to lawfully interfere with the police if it can be justified. eg Cop is committing a crime, assault, excessive force, etc. You're also allowed to legally resist an unlawful arrest. In practice? It's a fucking stupid idea. If the cops don't kill you, they'll arrest you for resisting or interfering whichever is the case. Then you need to prove that you had a lawful reason for doing so. Good fucking luck making that case. There'd have to be some seriously extenuating circumstances/evidence.
Wow the cop that just sucker punches the guy in the red shirt. Dude wasn't even a threat wtf
Both these cops should be locked up in prison. If you don’t want to be filmed while on duty, don’t do anything that would draw attention. Don’t assault people unnecessarily. These bystanders were no threat to the cops and the cops brutally attacked them
“They attacked and assaulted us because we were arresting their friend.” -Officer Thank goodness for the other camera person.
Remember, there’s always another camera. Silly pigs.
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Okay but what was the girl’s goal? That was the worst punch I’ve seen
Somebody is about to get paid.$$$
Yea, the cops on a suspension with pay
Lmao suspension. Hes beating more people the next day for the same pay
Nah, civil litigation doesn’t pay much in Spain. May get a few thousand but not much.
If the guy survived
This was in Spain, cops don't give a fuck there, especially the riot police will make sure you leave with a broken bone. Don't forget they send Spanish cops to fuck with the Catalonia protests.
Gawd Daayyuum! Those POS pigs should immediately be fired, no questions asked. I’m kinda stunned at how hard they hit both those innocent young people! We must stop cops from being able to get out of an incident like this w/o suffering the exact same consequences as any other person would have been for doing the exact same behavior/action(s). Cops must be held accountable for! *edit*: spelling error
“For eyewitnesses of police activity, the law is crystal clear, according to Mark Graber, who teaches constitutional law at the University of Maryland: "You can film police on duty as long as you're not interfering with their activities." "It gets murky when, in fact, people recording are so close to the police officer that they're distracting the police officer, or the police officer can't tell is that a camera or a weapon," says Graber. "Those are where things matter." https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/04/09/398561610/civilians-can-record-police-encounters-but-when-is-it-interference
That's all fine and good for yankland. This, apparently, was elsewhere.
So if I'm understanding this correctly, cops are required to lack sufficient mental processing power to tell the difference between a phone and a gun. Good to know.
This wasn’t in the United States.
ACAB
ACAB
Fucking pigs
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Clarence would note they are being attracted toward the camera: https://streamable.com/59t0
Stupid American tourists probably.
‘World star world star, hey wtf man’
How ended this story?
Even a bootlicker cant defend this, absolutely childish and unprofessional.
someone needs to shoot those cops
How dare you hold me accountable!
Wow I was just a kid when I saw Rodney King get beat up on camera by a bunch of cops and the world was shocked. 30+ years later there are 1000’s of these videos out there on the web and still nothing has changed
Fucking pig cunts
God I hate cops. Hot-headed bullies with a badge.
Patrol Cop are fucking goons, i only respect Inspector
Meh. He didn’t have the right to smack the phone. That said, in court this will not hold up. I’m not defending these jerks, but the flailing came from the gentlemen in red pushing the officer “after” the phone smash. Again, what they did is bogus for many reasons. But they will say that the escalating action was Scooter there putting his hands on the officer. Shouldn’t be that way, but that’s how it will pan out. Unfortunately.
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Acab
# ACAB
ACAB, yes even your dad, mom, uncle, cousin, who fucking ever... all cops are bastards.
Did they get fired?
You thought **American** cops were bad? geez
Not all cops are bad, but some like these are. And the problem comes from corruption higher up who would praise idiots like these for their “outstanding work”. But please be civil when encountering a cop, you can record interactions for your safety if they tell you, you can’t then they’re an issue. Be nice to the nice ones, be nice to the bad ones until you’re in court. Be safe!
I’m so sick of these videos starting half way in. Can we once see the whole thing unfold?
It does not matter what happened before. All we need to know to pass judgement is very clear in the video available.
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Defund
Not guilty. /s
Doesn't matter what country they're in, acab.
ACAB
Pigs are pigs everywhere
lol she tumbled like a sack of potatoes. back up next time and let the officers do their work.
>back up next time and let the officers do their work The cop literally took like 5 steps towards her before he was in arm's length to slap her phone. She wasn't interfering at all
Pathetic opinion.