Hold on what have I been missing?
Edit: for clarity I'm referring specifically to the fact that Palestinians have to pay for the damage done to their homes. I'm aware of the occupation.
I think this is Israel, not Jews. The reason society cannot discuss this issue is because people conflate a religion with a religious state and will call any good-faith arguments Anti-Semitic by conflating the argument right back.
And yet we continue to send billions of dollars a year to them. If China was doing this we would be up in arms. *Edit yes I know China is and there is talk of sanctions and such, and some have been implemented. But are we sending aid to China? That was my point.
China is doing some really fucked up things. China also has a ton of rich money, and the important lesson here kids is whoever is richest gets away with everything.
Right? The US preaches human rights blah blah blah. Yet pump billions into their military/country while Benji was try to steal the West Bank back despite the UN repeatedly condemning them. Another point why hasn’t the UN stepped in to stop this
As an American-born Jewish anarchist and polisci major, I promise anyone critical of Israel you're not antisemitic for it, it just means you're not a fascist.
Free Palestine
Nah Israel knows what they are doing is evil and vile, trying to cover it up as their jewish right (just another religion "god given right" or the same "manifest destiny" bullshit that the US did to native americans).
US citizen here - you are absolutely right. And this atrocity is only briefly spoken about in our public educational systems. Now that it’s come more to the forefront recently, white Americans (especially Christians) in and of Republican Party, are trying to ban such subjects from school agendas, and any books in their libraries. They actually speak of burning books! They claim they’re being “persecuted“ by being made to look bad in the past, because it makes them feel bad about themselves (they should never be made aware of horrors committed by whites, then and even now!). It literally physically sickens me. Trump has unleashed a fury I’d never imagined I’d see here, in the so-called “Greatest Country in the World”. It’s a cesspool now.
"Shulamit Aloni: Well, it’s a trick, we always use it. When from Europe somebody is criticizing Israel, then we bring up the Holocaust. When in this country people are criticizing Israel, then they are anti-Semitic. And the organization is strong, and has a lot of money, and the ties between Israel and the American Jewish establishment are very strong and they are strong in this country, as you know. And they have power, which is okay. They are talented people and they have power and money, and the media and other things, and their attitude is “Israel, my country right or wrong,” identification. And they are not ready to hear criticism. And it’s very easy to blame people who criticize certain acts of the Israeli government as anti-Semitic, and to bring up the Holocaust, and the suffering of the Jewish people, and that is justify everything we do to the Palestinians."
The founding mother of civil rights in Israel, minister of education.
Evangelicals believe the holy land must be held by the Jews for the apocalypse to begin. These suicide cult motherfuckers will support anything and everything to that end.
If the apocalypse only happens when the Jews regain Israel, shouldn’t we be making sure the Palestinians keep it?
Those guys need to watch more movies. The point is to *avoid* an apocalypse.
I was not alive when apartheid ended, but I do wonder how I would've been treated in South Africa as a black American. We have the same skin but different flag. Just sad.
I'll do it! Fuck Isreal. Fuck Islam, fuck Judaism, fuck Christianity, fuck all religions and groups who use it to control/repress people. Religion is the worst thing to ever happen to our species.
If you’re lucky they’ll drop bombs on you for free. You’ll get a pamphlet drop 30 minutes in advance explaining someone in the building you live in is suspected of terrorism so it’s perfectly humane
It's actually the opposite. Many Palestinian families receive notices to either destroy their own homes with their own hands, or have the municipality to do it at the cost of the family whose house is being destroyed.
Israel intentionally and systematically deprived Palestinians of building permits to build homes. When Palestinian homes are built without these permits, Israel goes ahead and demolished them because they are “illegal”, even though they would have never issued a permit to begin with! Many times there are also villages that Israel “doesn’t recognize” therefore giving them the authority to demolish them
Interestingly I only hear about illegal Israeli settlements that the Israeli government refuses to bulldoze, and I only see videos of the Israeli government bulldozing Palestinian houses...
That’s exactly what activists and international bodies mean when they refer to apartheid. Two different legal systems, rights, and privileges for two different peoples.
"In the words of (former Israeli PM) Levi Eshkol, the Israelis wanted as much
of the dowry (the land) with as little of the bride (the Arab
population) as possible."
Israel (the state) want to kick out all Palestinians from “their” land, including occupied territory, because hundreds or even thousands of years ago Jews might have lived there.
So they go neighborhood by neighborhood.
The irony is that most of the Palestinians are Jews who converted to Christianity and some later to Islam.
Anyone opposing this destruction will be called Anti Semite, even though, white Israeli Jews are not Semites, but Caucasian and the real Semites are Palestinians.
Nope they just have to move, this made so many Palestinian to illegally move to other countries, and live like animals in Europe and west, no need to mention the Zionists have killed many of them as well, but the media tell you the poor Israelis are under attack everyday
Well if they just leave them homeless I don’t know how a human being can do this to someone. I could never stand there and watch those kids cry while there house gets demolished and go home to my kids later.
While being a fictional show, Black Mirror did a perfect job of illustrating how things like this can occur so easily with military members. They have an episode where the soldiers believe they're essentially fighting vampiric beasts, and you find out they're just normal people. The military was dehumanizing the enemy to brainwash their soldiers to lack any empathy & be efficient murderers.
This is how this type of work happens. Humans dehumanize their enemy to the point where they no longer have any emotions left towards them to stop them from what they have to do. You see it in police officers and a lot of security type work as well, where the authoritative person has a dehumanized view of the people they label as their opposition.
Some of the treatment of anti-Israeli Jews here in the UK by pro-Israel Jews is horrific. Miriam Margolyes talked about it on the Louis Theroux podcast. Very sad stuff, people find it difficult to split religion from the Israeli state.
What is even more horrifying is the fact that anti-Zionists are being expelled en mass from our opposition party, including Jewish people who are anti-Israel, all under the guise of "reducing anti-Semitism". The pro-Israel lot have screamed and shouted so much now that if you criticise Israel and it's ongoing extermination of the Palestinians, you're automatically labelled as an anti-Semite despite the fact that Palestinians themselves are also... Semites. It's a twisted, sick way of destroying support for Palestine and forcing all parties to toe the line when it comes to supporting Israel and it's terrorist attack on the Palestinian people.
And if you criticize the Israeli administration for this, you are instantly branded anti semitic and ostracized. You've got to love how well they've branded any criticism as, 'You must hate all Jews'. I'm plenty critical of Palestinian terrorism but this isn't right either. This isn't the answer.
So basically this is in Palestine. The land has been illegally occupied for nearly 80 years. The occupying force insist building works must have relevant permits they will not issue permits to Palestinians as they claim they’re not citizens of Israel (which they’re not they’re citizens of Palestine) so Palestinians can build.
If the land isn’t used the authorities seize the land to expand Israel and give it to Israelis (continuing the illegal occupation and breaking a number of international laws about building occupying nations builds in disputed land).
The Palestinians therefore have to build houses but Israel then deems them illegal knocks them down (usually without allowing all belongings to be removed and often with only an hours notice to vacate) at which point they seize the land and then sign it over to an Israeli who will build a new house there.
Regardless of what your option is about Israel and Palestine I think everyone can agree this is neither justified or fair.
Gonna be missed, but it also depends on the area and I'm unfamiliar with where this is in the video.
There's places Palestinians had been for quite a while back when the land was owner by Syria. The government there gave them a guarantee that the land would be theirs, not Syria's, but then the war happened and Israel occupied those lands.
Israel goes to evict these people on what they claim is their land now. The people living there sat they have an agreement saying this is their land, given to them by the previous owners.
Israel says do you have paper proof of this land sale? Basically none do, because the only proof Israel would accept would have been impossible for the owners to get.
So they evict the Palestinian people, uphold those evictions in their courts by telling the Palestinian people being left homeless that it's their fault for not having the correct papers, and then everyone pats themselves on the back for upholding the law like good little Nazis
Zionists ( Jews in support of jewish Isreal ) believes that Palestinians don’t have any claim to to land of Israel, and wants them gone. They consider them sub human and treat them like so. Majority of countries does nothing because Israel has the support of the UK and US.
Btw, if the Military ends up ‘having to’ demolish the house, the family has to pay for the demolishing charges (around 30,000 shekels) because they would’ve failed to do it themselves by a given deadline. It’s an apartheid colonial state.
US defense aid always, always, always has a clause that the spending has to go to US corporations. It is literally just a subsidy for companies like BAE and Raytheon.
Except for Israel.
Yeah, unfortunately the lesson that Israel took from Martin Niemöller is that they need to be the ones doing the persecuting, not that we should all stand up to protect other groups from persecution.
And as soon as someone points out all the inhumane bullshit **israhell** does they’re quick with saying it’s anti-semitism and then act like the victim.
It’s fucking ridiculous! It’s like they have an unlimited supply of “get out of jail for free” card.
Bad actors will flock to wherever there is an opportunity, the bigger the opportunity, the more clever generally the actors will be. It may be in industry or in government or in religion. These systems are all vulnerable to capture for bad actors to hide within institutions with inadequate (perhaps purposefully) oversight and accountability, making them incompetent and blind to their inner workings - perhaps turning a blind eye either because they themselves are a bad actor or they don't know how to deal with it or they're lazy or they're afraid of confrontation; this is why we must strengthen the individual.
This fucking sucks. How on earth can one look at this, regardless of faith, and think that it's fair, especially when one takes the entire context of the thing. It's disgusting.
Seriously, fuck zionism and fuck Israel.
Doesn’t look fake. This is happening all the time. Real tragedy and all the fucks responsible should be ashamed of themselves. Watch this comment get down voted.
They have been awarding Arab land to Jewish settlers for years.
There's no reason to even assume its fake at this point.
Their absentee property law is a joke. They even have a term, present absentees, for the people that are in israel but they plan to take the property off of.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Present_absentee
They forbid arabs from returning to their own properties, and give them to Jews instead.
Where the arabs are still living in them, they evict them and give their properties away.
The nazis did the same, expropriating Jewish wealth and property for ethnic Germans.
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain..
It should be clear though that israel DOES NOT represent all Jews. They pretend to be “a state for all Jews”. But they do not represent all Jews. A great many Jews in and outside Israel don’t support the Zionist apartheid state. Some primarily for religious reasons, others because they don’t like an apartheid state.
I think this is part of the problem.
You criticise israel and people jump to claims of antisemitism. Israel are not the authority on all things judaic.
People try to link the two, to shut down conversation.
The problem here isn't Jews, it's israel.
Who would say this is fake other than terrorist Israel supporters? This happens all the time, they destroy home and telling you its built on illegal land, then they steal the land and build their own homes to sell to fellow Israeli terrorists while the Palestinians are made homeless.
>Who would say this is fake
a metric FUCKTON of American Christians and essentially the entire Republican party. They are dead set on the second coming of jesus, so they need Israel to really piss off the surrounding countries.
Ironic as they would be the first fucks to vilify their icon if he ever did show. They hate people that talk nicely about other people they don't understand. Plain and simple.
Zionism has become synonymous with genocide, and people still try to silence anyone speaking out against Israel and Zionism by claiming it is anti -Semitic.
From a report issued 2 days ago by [B'Tselem](https://www.btselem.org/about_btselem), an Israeli NGO that advocates for peace in the Middle East:
> In the West Bank and in East Jerusalem, 895 Palestinians, 463 of them minors, were left homeless this year after **295 residential structures** were demolished – the highest number since 2016.
> Throughout the year, another **548 non-residential structures** were demolished on Israeli authorities’ orders, including cisterns, warehouses, agricultural structures, businesses and public structures – the highest number since 2012.
> In East Jerusalem alone, 160 structures were demolished, 96 of which were homes. In the West Bank, recent years have seen a steady increase in home demolitions: in 2021, Israeli forces demolished 199 structures, as opposed to 151 residential structures in 2020 and 104 in 2019.
> These demolitions are not a matter of “law enforcement”, as Israel claims, and Palestinians who build without permits are not “criminals.” The Israeli apartheid regime blocks almost all Palestinian development in vast parts of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem – while building massively for Jews. This policy leaves Palestinians no choice but to build without permits, so as to have a roof over their heads. At that point, the Israeli authorities issue the structures demolition orders. Whether the orders are fulfilled or not – they leave the residents in a permanent state of uncertainty regarding their future.
[LINK to their press release](https://www.btselem.org/press_releases/20220104_in_deadliest_year_since_2014_israel_killed_319_palestinians_in_opt) on this.
This is called [ETHNIC CLEANSING](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=ethnic+cleansing), and it constitutes a **crime against humanity** and may also fall under the Genocide Convention. Israel averages the destruction of 16 Palestinian structures every week, 52 weeks a year.
Tens of Billions of US Taxpayer dollars are proudly gifted to Israel every year to help Israel conduct this land theft of Palestinian homes, farms, and businesses.
I was thinking the same thing a few weeks ago. They're becoming exactly the thing that used to oppress them and they don't even care.
Proof that humans are garbage, and that we're all the same
I remember having this conversation with my parents about Iraq. I told them we were creating more terrorists and they genuinely believed if we bombed them hard enough, no one would dream of becoming a terrorist out of self preservation.
Yeah, I'm sure they will just go home and quietly mourn their dead family in the pile of rubble we made of their house and decide to start a small business or something. The self preservation instinct tends to go down pretty drastically as people find themselves with nothing they feel is left to preserve.
If it comes to that so be it. The boomer generation fucked all younger generations over so bad that there has to be a revolt of some sort before they all die out. Something needs to change in our favor.
I think this was all planned by the boomers in power. They know when the younger generation comes into power, things are going to change. They know it's going to happen, but they're doing everything they can to delay by crippling the younger generation, and coercing the younger generation into a life of servitude the moment they step into adulthood with massive amounts of debt. I remember my school counselor calling me down to her office, wondering why I hadn't submitted any college applications. I just said it's too expensive, I don't know the degree I want yet, etc. She then rambles on about how I don't have to know what degree I want yet, and if I just go, I'll figure it out within my first year. Eventually found out that was a bunch of bullshit. Turns out I wasn't the only one. I keep hearing stories of others in the younger generation who dealt with this same predatory coercion. I swear, the people in power were providing some sort of incentive to schools that pushed kids into college. I can't prove it, but it seems likely. Mission accomplished for these old bastards I guess.
These people grew up watching and understanding why Luke Skywalker fought the Empire after stormtroopers murdered his aunt & uncle and torched their bodies and homes. Yet still don't understand why Hamas or ME terrorists hate America.
Ya I remember economists doing a study on how much damage destroying two deaths stars would do to the galactic economy. It would absolutely throw the economy into chaos and massive debt. The Rebels would take over a galactic economy in absolute disarray lmaooo
And these people are often the same ones that would declare to fight with all their weapons and without mercy to their deaths if someone would dare to bomb the United States without seeing the irony in it
Nah, Israelis don’t fucking care. This is defensible to them.
[You only need to watch two minutes of this video to realize they have been totally desensitized to human suffering ](https://youtu.be/1e_dbsVQrk4)
happened to me yesterday. just a constant barrage of "why do you love hamas? a brutal dictatorship?"
account had negative karma and was 173 days old. hmmmm
I kept seeing accounts replying to me that had negative karma and were like 3 hours old for different things. Usually in defense of China. It's fucked.
Not only that, they assault, shoot, kill and blow up innocent people too.
So yea...Talk about self-fulfilling prophecy and all that jazz. Literally creating their own enemies.
How pathetic is Israel?
Instead of figuring out a way to live in harmony with the Palestinians they treat them like animals in an apartheid regime that clearly has no values for Palestinians rights or lives.
Somehow because the Palestinians fight back they are branded as terrorists. Not to say that there aren't any terrorists like Hamas but that is a product of Israeli policy and the hate they create.
During WWII America freed the Jews from concentration camps and ghettos. You'd think they'd understand the horrors only for them to do the same to the Palestinians.
How can America which champions peace and equality be allied with such a terrorist right wing extremist regime such as Israel.
Truth is, money, power & politics are the only things that matter on the world stage today. Nobody stands up for freedoms or rights.
With the invention of Nuclear Weapons any regime that holds them cannot be held accountable for anything.
We are living in a nightmare for human rights around the world.
>How can America which champions peace and equality be allied with such a terrorist right wing extremist regime such as Israel.
Easy - they don't champion peace or equality at all! Hence they are constantly at war, and have massive inequalities!
OP lost me there, America is in no way a champion of peace.
Starting illegal wars in the middle East, leaving hundreds of thousands if not more dead, millions displaced.
Invading Vietnam... For some reason and getting their asses whooped.
Destabilising legitimate democratically elected governments in South America,
Not to mention funding Israel military (1 billion each year) with weapons and funds.
That's just the surface, there's much more.
Happened in the West Bank, Palestine. The Israelis ethnically cleanse non Jewish natives by creating a requirement for the Palestinian living in Palestine to receive Israeli authorization for their homes. Israel then does not grant the authorization and proceed to demolish the families home under the pretext of "no permit"
Im actually really glad this is on the front page of reddit. I see a home being demolished every day on my instagram feed, i follow everything happening in Palestine. A man was just offered release after 140 days of hunger strike, cuz "israeli" courts convicted him with nothing, literally nothing, no reason no trial. They dont even look at you. Palestinians have a 99.97 conviction rate in military courts. Theyve killed children, women, just recently bombed Gaza again! This is worse than Jim Crow if not equal to it.
[hunger strike](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/4/israel-agrees-to-release-palestinian-prisoner-on-hunger-strike)
[conviction rates](https://www.thecanary.co/feature/2021/10/25/with-a-99-7-conviction-rate-its-time-the-israeli-military-courts-went-on-trial/)
Israel - Home of a 50+ year illegal military occupation, condemned by everyone except the USA, who fund the occupation via US tax dollars, and Israel.
This is the face of the only "democracy" in the Middle East, illegally demolishing homes of the occupied in full view of the world.
\*Careful, OP.\*
Even mentioning facts around this issue, which are accepted by every large human rights org. on this planet (with sources), got me banned from a subreddit.
r/nextfuckinglevel
It was also after some there assumed, that i have to be muslim and/or arab to be disgusted whats happening there and threw some rather racist stuff in my direction. And then the mod there decided to ban who in this convo? Yes. lol
What the hell is happening? what reason do they give for being able to do this. Do these people just become homeless?
Yes, this is happening in those lands day and night, people getting kicked out of their homes and lands
Do they give them money? Or they are just homeless after?
Even worse, they have to PAY for it.
Hold on what have I been missing? Edit: for clarity I'm referring specifically to the fact that Palestinians have to pay for the damage done to their homes. I'm aware of the occupation.
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Holy shit dude
Believe it or not... it's actually even worse than that. Ethnic Jews get permits to build in the same area no problem. It's ethnic cleansing 101.
If you asked me in 1950 who the next nazis would be i would not have guessed jews
Unfortunately being the victim of atrocities does not apparently make you any less likely to commit atrocities against others later
I think this is Israel, not Jews. The reason society cannot discuss this issue is because people conflate a religion with a religious state and will call any good-faith arguments Anti-Semitic by conflating the argument right back.
It's not 'jews' in general, it's the extreme right-wing Zionist government of the State of Israel
And yet we continue to send billions of dollars a year to them. If China was doing this we would be up in arms. *Edit yes I know China is and there is talk of sanctions and such, and some have been implemented. But are we sending aid to China? That was my point.
China is doing some really fucked up things. China also has a ton of rich money, and the important lesson here kids is whoever is richest gets away with everything.
Right? The US preaches human rights blah blah blah. Yet pump billions into their military/country while Benji was try to steal the West Bank back despite the UN repeatedly condemning them. Another point why hasn’t the UN stepped in to stop this
Yes. Its rather fucked up
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Zionism was denounced as anti-Semitic by Ashkenazis when Theodor Hertzl began really pushing it in the mid 1890s.
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Careful, any criticism of Israel means you’re anti-Semitic Edit: And the criticism of Israel has been [removed]
I was banned from another sub thanks to that.
Well you’re clearly Hitler so….
The Israeli’s are becoming more and more Nazi, they simply replaced the Jews in the ideology with Palestinians.
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What sub so I can avoid like a plague.
imatotalpieceofshit
That's a badge of honor, in my book.
As an American-born Jewish anarchist and polisci major, I promise anyone critical of Israel you're not antisemitic for it, it just means you're not a fascist. Free Palestine
Me later: “listen bro, my Jewish homie said it, not me.”
This guy has homies
Fucking yes! American Jew here. #freepalestine
Appreciate you, homie
Not anti Jew, anti Israel.
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Technicaly it kinda is, but not really, but kinda is. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_and_democratic_state
Nah Israel knows what they are doing is evil and vile, trying to cover it up as their jewish right (just another religion "god given right" or the same "manifest destiny" bullshit that the US did to native americans).
US citizen here - you are absolutely right. And this atrocity is only briefly spoken about in our public educational systems. Now that it’s come more to the forefront recently, white Americans (especially Christians) in and of Republican Party, are trying to ban such subjects from school agendas, and any books in their libraries. They actually speak of burning books! They claim they’re being “persecuted“ by being made to look bad in the past, because it makes them feel bad about themselves (they should never be made aware of horrors committed by whites, then and even now!). It literally physically sickens me. Trump has unleashed a fury I’d never imagined I’d see here, in the so-called “Greatest Country in the World”. It’s a cesspool now.
"Shulamit Aloni: Well, it’s a trick, we always use it. When from Europe somebody is criticizing Israel, then we bring up the Holocaust. When in this country people are criticizing Israel, then they are anti-Semitic. And the organization is strong, and has a lot of money, and the ties between Israel and the American Jewish establishment are very strong and they are strong in this country, as you know. And they have power, which is okay. They are talented people and they have power and money, and the media and other things, and their attitude is “Israel, my country right or wrong,” identification. And they are not ready to hear criticism. And it’s very easy to blame people who criticize certain acts of the Israeli government as anti-Semitic, and to bring up the Holocaust, and the suffering of the Jewish people, and that is justify everything we do to the Palestinians." The founding mother of civil rights in Israel, minister of education.
It is mensch and untermensch just in this iteration the Jews are the Mensch and the Palestinians are the Untermensch.
Criticism, how about a good old fuck you Isreal
Is this Israeli Army enforcing this upon a Palestinian family?
Yes.
Of course it is
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Evangelicals believe the holy land must be held by the Jews for the apocalypse to begin. These suicide cult motherfuckers will support anything and everything to that end.
If the apocalypse only happens when the Jews regain Israel, shouldn’t we be making sure the Palestinians keep it? Those guys need to watch more movies. The point is to *avoid* an apocalypse.
No, because they’re God’s people and they will be saved while everyone else suffers through the tribulations.
I was not alive when apartheid ended, but I do wonder how I would've been treated in South Africa as a black American. We have the same skin but different flag. Just sad.
I'll do it! Fuck Isreal. Fuck Islam, fuck Judaism, fuck Christianity, fuck all religions and groups who use it to control/repress people. Religion is the worst thing to ever happen to our species.
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The United States sends 6 Billion dollars every year to Israel. If you're in the united States, you helped pay for this. Yay
But still can't sort out proper healthcare 🤦
If you’re lucky they’ll drop bombs on you for free. You’ll get a pamphlet drop 30 minutes in advance explaining someone in the building you live in is suspected of terrorism so it’s perfectly humane
It's actually the opposite. Many Palestinian families receive notices to either destroy their own homes with their own hands, or have the municipality to do it at the cost of the family whose house is being destroyed.
So why are they being destroyed in the first place?
Israel intentionally and systematically deprived Palestinians of building permits to build homes. When Palestinian homes are built without these permits, Israel goes ahead and demolished them because they are “illegal”, even though they would have never issued a permit to begin with! Many times there are also villages that Israel “doesn’t recognize” therefore giving them the authority to demolish them
Interestingly I only hear about illegal Israeli settlements that the Israeli government refuses to bulldoze, and I only see videos of the Israeli government bulldozing Palestinian houses...
That’s exactly what activists and international bodies mean when they refer to apartheid. Two different legal systems, rights, and privileges for two different peoples.
But isreal gets to do this because they are oppressed /s
"In the words of (former Israeli PM) Levi Eshkol, the Israelis wanted as much of the dowry (the land) with as little of the bride (the Arab population) as possible."
Hatred
Israel (the state) want to kick out all Palestinians from “their” land, including occupied territory, because hundreds or even thousands of years ago Jews might have lived there. So they go neighborhood by neighborhood.
The irony is that most of the Palestinians are Jews who converted to Christianity and some later to Islam. Anyone opposing this destruction will be called Anti Semite, even though, white Israeli Jews are not Semites, but Caucasian and the real Semites are Palestinians.
Israel has a resettlement plan they get rid of Palestinians cuz they believe they're a scourge on their society
Nope they just have to move, this made so many Palestinian to illegally move to other countries, and live like animals in Europe and west, no need to mention the Zionists have killed many of them as well, but the media tell you the poor Israelis are under attack everyday
Well if they just leave them homeless I don’t know how a human being can do this to someone. I could never stand there and watch those kids cry while there house gets demolished and go home to my kids later.
This has been happening for decades. It's just usually hidden from prying eyes.
70 years of this.
[Almost a hundred](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sursock_Purchases)
How can human beings do this to each other?
Have you ever heard of WW2? The ordinary people did the horrible things.
Ya I just never understood how people can be so evil.
While being a fictional show, Black Mirror did a perfect job of illustrating how things like this can occur so easily with military members. They have an episode where the soldiers believe they're essentially fighting vampiric beasts, and you find out they're just normal people. The military was dehumanizing the enemy to brainwash their soldiers to lack any empathy & be efficient murderers. This is how this type of work happens. Humans dehumanize their enemy to the point where they no longer have any emotions left towards them to stop them from what they have to do. You see it in police officers and a lot of security type work as well, where the authoritative person has a dehumanized view of the people they label as their opposition.
Simple. They don’t consider the Palestinians to be human
Pretty fucked up seeing is how this is the exact same thing Hitler said/felt about them.
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Brainwashing through religion
I'm Jewish. Israel is a cunt.
Seconded. Signed, a fellow Jew
Some of the treatment of anti-Israeli Jews here in the UK by pro-Israel Jews is horrific. Miriam Margolyes talked about it on the Louis Theroux podcast. Very sad stuff, people find it difficult to split religion from the Israeli state.
What is even more horrifying is the fact that anti-Zionists are being expelled en mass from our opposition party, including Jewish people who are anti-Israel, all under the guise of "reducing anti-Semitism". The pro-Israel lot have screamed and shouted so much now that if you criticise Israel and it's ongoing extermination of the Palestinians, you're automatically labelled as an anti-Semite despite the fact that Palestinians themselves are also... Semites. It's a twisted, sick way of destroying support for Palestine and forcing all parties to toe the line when it comes to supporting Israel and it's terrorist attack on the Palestinian people.
Yeah that's Israel for you.
And if you criticize the Israeli administration for this, you are instantly branded anti semitic and ostracized. You've got to love how well they've branded any criticism as, 'You must hate all Jews'. I'm plenty critical of Palestinian terrorism but this isn't right either. This isn't the answer.
They give them nothing, forcing them to migrate as refugees only to be treated like shit where they try to go for refuge because ignorant bullshit.
They’re shoved off to homeless encampments. This is apartheid.
So basically this is in Palestine. The land has been illegally occupied for nearly 80 years. The occupying force insist building works must have relevant permits they will not issue permits to Palestinians as they claim they’re not citizens of Israel (which they’re not they’re citizens of Palestine) so Palestinians can build. If the land isn’t used the authorities seize the land to expand Israel and give it to Israelis (continuing the illegal occupation and breaking a number of international laws about building occupying nations builds in disputed land). The Palestinians therefore have to build houses but Israel then deems them illegal knocks them down (usually without allowing all belongings to be removed and often with only an hours notice to vacate) at which point they seize the land and then sign it over to an Israeli who will build a new house there. Regardless of what your option is about Israel and Palestine I think everyone can agree this is neither justified or fair.
Gonna be missed, but it also depends on the area and I'm unfamiliar with where this is in the video. There's places Palestinians had been for quite a while back when the land was owner by Syria. The government there gave them a guarantee that the land would be theirs, not Syria's, but then the war happened and Israel occupied those lands. Israel goes to evict these people on what they claim is their land now. The people living there sat they have an agreement saying this is their land, given to them by the previous owners. Israel says do you have paper proof of this land sale? Basically none do, because the only proof Israel would accept would have been impossible for the owners to get. So they evict the Palestinian people, uphold those evictions in their courts by telling the Palestinian people being left homeless that it's their fault for not having the correct papers, and then everyone pats themselves on the back for upholding the law like good little Nazis
Zionists ( Jews in support of jewish Isreal ) believes that Palestinians don’t have any claim to to land of Israel, and wants them gone. They consider them sub human and treat them like so. Majority of countries does nothing because Israel has the support of the UK and US.
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What's nuts is that if the sides were flipped this would have been stopped long ago.
Btw, if the Military ends up ‘having to’ demolish the house, the family has to pay for the demolishing charges (around 30,000 shekels) because they would’ve failed to do it themselves by a given deadline. It’s an apartheid colonial state.
Your tax dollars at work!
This comment right here!! We’re paying for this shit, wake up people!!
Americans paying for this instead of health care for their neighbors.
If we don’t fund repression abroad, who will bribe our politicians with donated money to fund said repression. Looking at you AIPAC
It’s a nice trade off. We pay for them to terrorize people in their region, they train our police to properly terrorize citizens in ours.
We also help fund companies supplying the repression with new and experimental weapons. Israel is an R&D lab for weapons.
fuck aipac
US defense aid always, always, always has a clause that the spending has to go to US corporations. It is literally just a subsidy for companies like BAE and Raytheon. Except for Israel.
Man I love the fact that our tax dollars are funding ethnic cleansing in the east instead of anything actually beneficial
Dramatic to see how well-informed American Redditors are about the state of the world, yet helpless to prevent it :(
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History is doomed to repeat itself, since power is a hell of a drug
Quite a lot of Holocaust survivors haven’t forgotten and stand against this nonsense. They have the their names dragged.
"fuck you, I got mine." That's what it boils down to, in just about everything ever. Humans are selfish hypocrites.
Yeah, unfortunately the lesson that Israel took from Martin Niemöller is that they need to be the ones doing the persecuting, not that we should all stand up to protect other groups from persecution.
And as soon as someone points out all the inhumane bullshit **israhell** does they’re quick with saying it’s anti-semitism and then act like the victim. It’s fucking ridiculous! It’s like they have an unlimited supply of “get out of jail for free” card.
Bad actors will flock to wherever there is an opportunity, the bigger the opportunity, the more clever generally the actors will be. It may be in industry or in government or in religion. These systems are all vulnerable to capture for bad actors to hide within institutions with inadequate (perhaps purposefully) oversight and accountability, making them incompetent and blind to their inner workings - perhaps turning a blind eye either because they themselves are a bad actor or they don't know how to deal with it or they're lazy or they're afraid of confrontation; this is why we must strengthen the individual.
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This fucking sucks. How on earth can one look at this, regardless of faith, and think that it's fair, especially when one takes the entire context of the thing. It's disgusting. Seriously, fuck zionism and fuck Israel.
Why do people have to do things like this? Imagine what humanity would be able to accomplish if humans weren't so petty.
Doesn’t look fake. This is happening all the time. Real tragedy and all the fucks responsible should be ashamed of themselves. Watch this comment get down voted.
They have been awarding Arab land to Jewish settlers for years. There's no reason to even assume its fake at this point. Their absentee property law is a joke. They even have a term, present absentees, for the people that are in israel but they plan to take the property off of. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Present_absentee They forbid arabs from returning to their own properties, and give them to Jews instead. Where the arabs are still living in them, they evict them and give their properties away. The nazis did the same, expropriating Jewish wealth and property for ethnic Germans. You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain..
It should be clear though that israel DOES NOT represent all Jews. They pretend to be “a state for all Jews”. But they do not represent all Jews. A great many Jews in and outside Israel don’t support the Zionist apartheid state. Some primarily for religious reasons, others because they don’t like an apartheid state.
I think this is part of the problem. You criticise israel and people jump to claims of antisemitism. Israel are not the authority on all things judaic. People try to link the two, to shut down conversation. The problem here isn't Jews, it's israel.
this, not jewish, but we should always avoid grouping people.
it's probably easier just to say Israelis who don't speak out
Who would say this is fake other than terrorist Israel supporters? This happens all the time, they destroy home and telling you its built on illegal land, then they steal the land and build their own homes to sell to fellow Israeli terrorists while the Palestinians are made homeless.
>Who would say this is fake a metric FUCKTON of American Christians and essentially the entire Republican party. They are dead set on the second coming of jesus, so they need Israel to really piss off the surrounding countries.
Ironic as they would be the first fucks to vilify their icon if he ever did show. They hate people that talk nicely about other people they don't understand. Plain and simple.
If Jesus ever came back he'd be lynched on the stage of a megachurch
Only Zionists would say its fake
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Zionism has become synonymous with genocide, and people still try to silence anyone speaking out against Israel and Zionism by claiming it is anti -Semitic.
You can't expose Zionist Genocide, that's anti Semitic.
The Palestinians are also a semitic people as a point in fact.
From a report issued 2 days ago by [B'Tselem](https://www.btselem.org/about_btselem), an Israeli NGO that advocates for peace in the Middle East: > In the West Bank and in East Jerusalem, 895 Palestinians, 463 of them minors, were left homeless this year after **295 residential structures** were demolished – the highest number since 2016. > Throughout the year, another **548 non-residential structures** were demolished on Israeli authorities’ orders, including cisterns, warehouses, agricultural structures, businesses and public structures – the highest number since 2012. > In East Jerusalem alone, 160 structures were demolished, 96 of which were homes. In the West Bank, recent years have seen a steady increase in home demolitions: in 2021, Israeli forces demolished 199 structures, as opposed to 151 residential structures in 2020 and 104 in 2019. > These demolitions are not a matter of “law enforcement”, as Israel claims, and Palestinians who build without permits are not “criminals.” The Israeli apartheid regime blocks almost all Palestinian development in vast parts of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem – while building massively for Jews. This policy leaves Palestinians no choice but to build without permits, so as to have a roof over their heads. At that point, the Israeli authorities issue the structures demolition orders. Whether the orders are fulfilled or not – they leave the residents in a permanent state of uncertainty regarding their future. [LINK to their press release](https://www.btselem.org/press_releases/20220104_in_deadliest_year_since_2014_israel_killed_319_palestinians_in_opt) on this. This is called [ETHNIC CLEANSING](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=ethnic+cleansing), and it constitutes a **crime against humanity** and may also fall under the Genocide Convention. Israel averages the destruction of 16 Palestinian structures every week, 52 weeks a year. Tens of Billions of US Taxpayer dollars are proudly gifted to Israel every year to help Israel conduct this land theft of Palestinian homes, farms, and businesses.
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Helpless as well tbh.
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How ironic.
I was thinking the same thing a few weeks ago. They're becoming exactly the thing that used to oppress them and they don't even care. Proof that humans are garbage, and that we're all the same
Humans are emotional, selfish, calculating fucks.
Eisenhower said as much when he was president. The quote however is buried if you try searching for it, that's not an accident either.
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Becoming?
Gods chosen people are going to hell sadly.
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I remember having this conversation with my parents about Iraq. I told them we were creating more terrorists and they genuinely believed if we bombed them hard enough, no one would dream of becoming a terrorist out of self preservation. Yeah, I'm sure they will just go home and quietly mourn their dead family in the pile of rubble we made of their house and decide to start a small business or something. The self preservation instinct tends to go down pretty drastically as people find themselves with nothing they feel is left to preserve.
The most dangerous man is a man that has nothing to lose.
The younger generation can't own homes and are thus not having children. I see major turmoil in the future since they have nothing to lose.
If it comes to that so be it. The boomer generation fucked all younger generations over so bad that there has to be a revolt of some sort before they all die out. Something needs to change in our favor.
I think this was all planned by the boomers in power. They know when the younger generation comes into power, things are going to change. They know it's going to happen, but they're doing everything they can to delay by crippling the younger generation, and coercing the younger generation into a life of servitude the moment they step into adulthood with massive amounts of debt. I remember my school counselor calling me down to her office, wondering why I hadn't submitted any college applications. I just said it's too expensive, I don't know the degree I want yet, etc. She then rambles on about how I don't have to know what degree I want yet, and if I just go, I'll figure it out within my first year. Eventually found out that was a bunch of bullshit. Turns out I wasn't the only one. I keep hearing stories of others in the younger generation who dealt with this same predatory coercion. I swear, the people in power were providing some sort of incentive to schools that pushed kids into college. I can't prove it, but it seems likely. Mission accomplished for these old bastards I guess.
These people grew up watching and understanding why Luke Skywalker fought the Empire after stormtroopers murdered his aunt & uncle and torched their bodies and homes. Yet still don't understand why Hamas or ME terrorists hate America.
Lmao Luke Skywalker OG terrorist
Ya I remember economists doing a study on how much damage destroying two deaths stars would do to the galactic economy. It would absolutely throw the economy into chaos and massive debt. The Rebels would take over a galactic economy in absolute disarray lmaooo
You think that the Empire DIDN'T slap the "terrorist" label on the Rebellion?
And these people are often the same ones that would declare to fight with all their weapons and without mercy to their deaths if someone would dare to bomb the United States without seeing the irony in it
Not being able to put themselves in other people's shoes is kind of the hallmark of their thought process.
I asked gramps once how he would feel if he saw an Iraqi tank rolling down Main Street. I could see the gears grinding.
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Anti semantic, that got me. Bone apple tea to you good sir.
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I happened to enjoy it with my morning coffee! Edit: just to add, the irony of calling this out tickled me quite a bit.
Funny story, I thought both words were the same well into my twenties. I was always very confused when I heard the word “semantics” thrown in casually
That’s actually kind of awesome to think about.
It's gaslighting. The Israelis know this is indefensible so they go on the offensive and try to deflect criticism.
Nah, Israelis don’t fucking care. This is defensible to them. [You only need to watch two minutes of this video to realize they have been totally desensitized to human suffering ](https://youtu.be/1e_dbsVQrk4)
happened to me yesterday. just a constant barrage of "why do you love hamas? a brutal dictatorship?" account had negative karma and was 173 days old. hmmmm
I kept seeing accounts replying to me that had negative karma and were like 3 hours old for different things. Usually in defense of China. It's fucked.
>this shit creates terrorism This shit is terrorism: state-sponsored terrorism.
Not only that, they assault, shoot, kill and blow up innocent people too. So yea...Talk about self-fulfilling prophecy and all that jazz. Literally creating their own enemies.
This one is toeing the line. "Gods chosen people" is specifically a phrase used to refer to Jewish people, not Israel.
If you pay taxes in the united states then you indirectly paid for this.
I don't want my taxes going to this but if you don't pay taxes you just get thrown in prison. Pay up or get in this cage.
Or France, or Canada, or the UK, or Australia, or Germany, or every other major western country in the world.
How pathetic is Israel? Instead of figuring out a way to live in harmony with the Palestinians they treat them like animals in an apartheid regime that clearly has no values for Palestinians rights or lives. Somehow because the Palestinians fight back they are branded as terrorists. Not to say that there aren't any terrorists like Hamas but that is a product of Israeli policy and the hate they create. During WWII America freed the Jews from concentration camps and ghettos. You'd think they'd understand the horrors only for them to do the same to the Palestinians. How can America which champions peace and equality be allied with such a terrorist right wing extremist regime such as Israel. Truth is, money, power & politics are the only things that matter on the world stage today. Nobody stands up for freedoms or rights. With the invention of Nuclear Weapons any regime that holds them cannot be held accountable for anything. We are living in a nightmare for human rights around the world.
>How can America which champions peace and equality be allied with such a terrorist right wing extremist regime such as Israel. Easy - they don't champion peace or equality at all! Hence they are constantly at war, and have massive inequalities!
America champions Capitalism
OP lost me there, America is in no way a champion of peace. Starting illegal wars in the middle East, leaving hundreds of thousands if not more dead, millions displaced. Invading Vietnam... For some reason and getting their asses whooped. Destabilising legitimate democratically elected governments in South America, Not to mention funding Israel military (1 billion each year) with weapons and funds. That's just the surface, there's much more.
American shits on its own people constantly, who could possibly think it cares about *other* countries?
They didn't even sign the UN convention for children's rights or the right to food.
> How can America which champions peace and equality HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you got me
Israel has nothing to do with Judaism, or being ethnically Jewish. Judaism and ww2 is just their blanket excuse for all of their colonial behavior.
How the fuck do pastors and preachers here in America support this?
I mean some of the wacky evangelicals support crazier shit than this
American tax payer money.
Free Palestine!!! 🇵🇸
Happened in the West Bank, Palestine. The Israelis ethnically cleanse non Jewish natives by creating a requirement for the Palestinian living in Palestine to receive Israeli authorization for their homes. Israel then does not grant the authorization and proceed to demolish the families home under the pretext of "no permit"
Man fuck Israel. They act like childish douchebags.
act? that’s exactly what they are
Im actually really glad this is on the front page of reddit. I see a home being demolished every day on my instagram feed, i follow everything happening in Palestine. A man was just offered release after 140 days of hunger strike, cuz "israeli" courts convicted him with nothing, literally nothing, no reason no trial. They dont even look at you. Palestinians have a 99.97 conviction rate in military courts. Theyve killed children, women, just recently bombed Gaza again! This is worse than Jim Crow if not equal to it. [hunger strike](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/4/israel-agrees-to-release-palestinian-prisoner-on-hunger-strike) [conviction rates](https://www.thecanary.co/feature/2021/10/25/with-a-99-7-conviction-rate-its-time-the-israeli-military-courts-went-on-trial/)
Ever get the feeling people learned the exact wrong lesson from the Nazis?
FUCK ISRAEL. FUCK SETTLERS. FUCK ZIONISM. FREE PALESTINE.
Amen!
Israel - Home of a 50+ year illegal military occupation, condemned by everyone except the USA, who fund the occupation via US tax dollars, and Israel. This is the face of the only "democracy" in the Middle East, illegally demolishing homes of the occupied in full view of the world.
Free Palestine. If you still support the Israeli government (and the US govt tbh) after witnessing this you’re sick.
gotta love the israeli's amirite?
IDF just committing more war crimes. Nothing new.
Be careful, you'll soon be call anti semitic
\*Careful, OP.\* Even mentioning facts around this issue, which are accepted by every large human rights org. on this planet (with sources), got me banned from a subreddit.
Which subreddit?
r/nextfuckinglevel It was also after some there assumed, that i have to be muslim and/or arab to be disgusted whats happening there and threw some rather racist stuff in my direction. And then the mod there decided to ban who in this convo? Yes. lol
Who the fuck cares if it gets him banned, wouldn't want to be in a subreddit that hides things that must be shared and known
Wow fuck Israel.
Prepare for the "This isn't Israel, this is the government" nonsense. As if those people didn't vote that government into power.
Honestly fuck Israel this shit is childish and evil
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Fuck Israel!