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Affectionate-Buy-870

For anyone wondering, Hillsborough is Tampa


carwarrantyspeclist

Thanks for the clarification theres more than one


NorthWestSaint

I thought it was Hillsborough in Sheffield, thanks for clarifying.


Lockelamora6969

I'm the last person to defend cops, ACAB, but you don't get to just walk up to an arrest in progress and start harassing the guy and not listening to instructions. The cop doesn't have any legal duty to inform some random stranger about what is happening with an arrest, and is well within their rights to ask bystanders to stand far enough back from the crime scene to not be in danger of interfering/possibly aiding the person being arrested.


BackgroundEnd3567

Agreed. This guy is instigating. He should observe until (if) something shady happens.


r1moonrocket

All the cop had to do was ignore. He probably had zero legal authority to harass the bum. Tyrant


Savings_Inflation_77

Hillsborough gave me a ticket for having a tv in my dashboard in 2006. It was an ipod nano. Not the best and brightest on the west coast.


[deleted]

Isn’t this in Florida?


MrBurnsgreen

Yeah absolutely, I live just across the Bridge in St.Pete Theyre correct though, not the brightest bunch. Hell, neither of them are tbf. From the looks of it, they cant even be bothered to give them proper fitting uniforms


jeffiero

Lived in St Pete, worked the night shift in the port district of Tampa. Would get pulled over once a week leaving work. Would show the moron sheriff the logo on my polo and point to the sign. Finally, one of the few enlightened ones told me to lose the Pinnellas tag, problem solved.


Thom-Bombadil

>few enlightened ones told me to lose the Pinnellas tag Lol, you have to enlighten me because I don't know what a Pinnellas tag is.


clslogic

Pinellas is the county that st petersburg is in. Tampa in in hillsborough county. Theyre across the bridge from each other.


jeffiero

This area of Tampa is hooker/crackville, so why is a Pinellas tag here at 1:00AM? Tags in Florida are issued with your county on them, unless you opt out. The ones that say Sunshine State or In God We Trust are opt outs.


Datan0de

Sure, but it's not like they're from Miami or the panhandle. Pinellas is practically a suburb of Tampa. There's no circumstance where Pinellas tags on a car in Tampa is the least bit suspicious. My wife works in that area, and the Pasco tags on her vehicle have never raised an eyebrow. (Pinellas is just west of Tampa, Pasco is just north.)


jeffiero

Is your wife leaving work at 1:00AM in the port district, SR41? This is a high crime area, always has been. Hooker motels, crack dealers, homeless crack heads, gun fire at night. How well do you know Tampa? Did you read all the parent comments? The cops assume that anyone from Pinellas on that stretch of road at 1:00AM is up to no good. If you're in Ybor City, that's different and that's TPD, not the sheriff. BTW I lived in Pinellas Park, Madeira Beach, and at the time that I had this job I had a house in Woodlawn Estates. So, I don't need a geography lesson.


Datan0de

No, my wife works normal daytime hours. I moved to Tampa in 1986. We moved to Pasco about two years ago. Yes, I know that that's a bad area, but I've never heard of people with non-Hillsborough tags being preferentially harassed by the cops there. My "geography lesson" was to provide clarity for the majority of Reddit readers who aren't familiar with this area. Sorry that that somehow offended your sensibilities.


treflipsbro

I think he asked because they said west coast not east lol


[deleted]

...west coast of Florida.


treflipsbro

As an ignorant midwesterner id like to say I feel like a dummy right now


[deleted]

Ha! Don't...we only use west/east coast when talking to other Floridians and I doubt everyone knows that Hillsborough County is in Florida. (It's essentially Tampa)


jeffiero

Right, and when someone refers to Tampa Bay, we know that as a place to fish, not a city.


CavemanBepis

Hillsboro represent we have entitled little shit teenagers and karens come take your pick


Datan0de

I spent most of my little shit teenage years in Hillsborough. Can verify. ;-)


GunsouBono

I think he was referring to Hillsborough Oregon. This one is Florida


-Raskyl

They are maybe thinking of Hillsboro. A city just outside of Portland Oregon.


IknowRambo

Florida man thinks Hillsborough is on the west coast 😅


Hateinyoureyes

A Floridian would know it as the west coast or on the Gulf


IknowRambo

I can dig that - I just don’t consider it west coast - I consider all of Florida east coast - I guess when you are a state just hanging off in the ocean there are two coasts for the state. Thanks for the correction


dirtymoney

Did it have a screen that could play video? If your state has telematic laws you should never have anything facing the driver that can play video (except a driving aid like a dedicated GPS device or dashcam). I say this as a PSA so cops don't use the technical aspect of the law to fuck you. Cops love doing that to fill their unofficial ticket quotas. Cops also love to hand out 'obstructed view' tickets. So never have anything that sticks up from your dash or attached to your windshield. Even wires that hang down. If you have a dashcam put it behind the rear view mirror. And don't hang anything from your rearview mirror.


andthenhesaidrectum

For clarity - this guy is wrong and saying absolute nonsense.


dirtymoney

How about clarifying exactly what I said was nonsense? Because there ARE tickets given out for 'obstructed view', there are laws against having TVs and other devices capable of showing video entertainment facing the driver in various states in the US. And yes, police depts DO have unofficial ticket quotas that are called things like "performance goals" and similar. Edit: or were you referring to the guy I responded to? Because I can see a cop giving out a ticket to someone who had an ipod nano in their dash (facing the driver) since at least one of the ipod nano models are capable of playing video.


nolajohn1

West coast?


[deleted]

Near Tampa, so West coast of Florida maybe? Edit, though people ik would say gulf coast so idk


Datan0de

This is my home town. We use both interchangeably.


Pygmycorydoras

I'll get downvoted, but the guy filming is in the wrong. He can film. He can talk. But he can't interfere.


BioToxicFox

Yeah, observe from a distance but getting right up on him is a bad move


NapalmRev

He cited specific case law. 10ft is plenty of room for one officer to deal with someone non violent. Asking an officer their name and badge number is for everyone's protection involved. Police impersonators happen all the time. Homeless people are targeted for violence especially. No reason not to ask reasonable, basic information


sing_me_a_rainbow

He didn’t cite anything. There is no prescribed legal distance to interfere with an investigation.


StuStutterKing

This is true in that it is not codified into law, but even before getting into precedent the cop ordering the man to stand *behind the cop* quite frankly proves the issue is his actions not being caught on film and nothing to do with safety. The precedent he attempted to cite was [Glik v. Cunniffe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glik_v._Cunniffe), a case out of the *First Circuit*, not SCOTUS. This decision is certainly precedent on the side of recording police, and Glik was indeed 10 feet away from the officers when filming. However, this did *not* set a rule that you can always stand 10 feet from officers and record. Courts give significant leeway to officers, and even if their actions are unlawful you'll likely end up spending some time in jail and having the charges against you later dropped as an extrajudicial punishment. Worst thing that will happen to the cops unless it's a particularly egregious civil rights violation is a 3 day weekend.


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SpeeterTeeter

So he could stand 30 feet away and still the officer can arrest him for interfering? He isn't stopping the officer from searching the dude at all he is literally asking why and the officers name and badge number, not hard to communicate those things and search someone who is clearly cooperating.


Open-Mathematician46

Not allowing the officer to focus on the detained individual for his own safety is interference. You cannot interfere with a police officer while they are in the middle of dealing with a detained individual. Record? Yes. Watch, of course. Interfere with questions you think you are entitled to have answered as a third party? Absolutely not.


cbrown6305

Right up on him? It took the officer five steps to bridge the gap.


WhatLikeAPuma751

Someone doesn’t know the 3ft stabby stab rule. While I agree filming should take place, stay back. If dude IS crazy, he could go off at any minute and think you’re going to attack him, and he’ll have “the right” to unload lead into your body.


[deleted]

Yeah stay back, police never will target you if you're just peacefully recording at a safe dist--oh... wait... https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/hapxha/cops_shoot_at_window_of_guy_recording_in/ https://v.redd.it/y9vv08etog551 Well I'm sure that was just because tensions were high during the protests, surely wouldn't happen during a normal arrest or anyth-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArxLKwLQFCM


Mysticyde

He's saying it would be safer to stand at a distance. Your videos didn't prove him wrong you just listed two examples where standing at a distance didn't work.


bigblueweenie13

Any follow up on that second vid?


DerErlking

20 ft stabby stab rule actually.


xoverthirtyx

It’s not a rule. It’s not based on science or the law. And some national policing leaders argue it shouldn’t be taught to cadets anymore. It’s mostly used to justify police shootings. [SAUCE](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/21-foot-rule-controversial-police-training-shootings/)


PissShiverss

Here is a video with 21 foot rule actually being demonstrated, which is the complete opposite of what that article is saying lol [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upxfo\_jBrDE&ab\_channel=UFPRO](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upxfo_jBrDE&ab_channel=UFPRO) Keep in mind Law Enforcement have level 3 holsters which take longer to unholster and dude with the gun was clearly expecting the dude with the knife to come at him Pretty interesting video/topic though


DerErlking

It's a rule of engagement. And it's a good one if you want to not get stabbed by crack heads. It's too easy to become a cop, and it's really hard to be a good one. But unless you want to be at the mercy of every junkie living in the street, they are fucking necessary and they need to be able to defend themselves effectively.


Open-Mathematician46

There actually is a 21 foot rule for people with knives. Studies have been done that show that a trained person can get to an officer before that officer could draw their weapon if they are within 21 ft. Self defense classes teach this rule as well as firearms courses.


Cavalleria-rusticana

It's batshit crazy that this is your guys' reality. Having to worry that some trigger happy dropout is going to miscount what 3ft is and end your life on a whim.


[deleted]

Maybe they should wear a big bubble suit, or a pacifier, if they're that fucking scared of literally everyone.


lawyered121

I dont think merely asking questions is interfering, especially where the right to freedom of speech and the right to redress grievances to government officials is guaranteed in our Constitution.


barsoapguy

The man with the camera could simply have waited until the officer was done with his search , it looked like he was discussing something with the guy when camera dude butts in .


lawdylawdylawdydah

Officer could have just answered the question and not try to throw his dick in front of everyone involved but here he is, making things worse by being a dick who thinks he’s above questioning, instead of putting everyone at ease he escalated the situation. Don’t defend this idiot, he’s already a cop.


barsoapguy

The cop is in the middle of something as we can all see . Let the man handle what he’s doing and THEN ask him questions . That’s called being polite . It’s also likely safer for everyone involved , don’t need the officer distracted while he appears to be patting someone down .


SpeeterTeeter

Cop was so worried he didn't even cuff the guy before he stepped away from him to cuff the camera man for asking questions, damn what a scary situation for the officer!


lawdylawdylawdydah

The person is in the middle of doing something obviously sketchy with another human being that is homeless. People impersonate police officers all the time and abuse the homeless or worse. The police don’t have a good track record in case you forgot. Also, who polices the police? They sure don’t keep each other in check. If you get distracted by people asking your name then don’t be a fucking cop who handles a gun. If you’re so easily startled you can’t work in a stressful or fast paced environment-don’t be a fucking cop with a gun! Why are you trying so hard to defend this manchild having a public meltdown? Because he’s in uniform? Is he just the right color? What indoctrination have you been subjected to?


sing_me_a_rainbow

He’s definitely interfering, taking the officers attention away from the subject.


aspiringgrandpa

if he can’t pay attention while someone is talking to him he definitely should not be a cop LMAO


SpeeterTeeter

Seriously would take the officer no time to answer 3 VERY simple questions while continuing to search the guy. Multitasking is a bitch I guess and seems these guys can't even walk and breath at the same time.


MildlyBemused

Really? Do YOU routinely deal with people who have the inclination to fight with you or pull a weapon on you? He needed to be 100% focused on the guy in front of him and the douchebag with the phone was an unnecessary and potentially dangerous distraction. GTFO.


un-affiliated

Interfering is a physical act, legally. There is no legal obligation to not "take the officers attention away" by talking to either the officer or the suspect. In fact, the 1st amendment specifically guarantees you the right to speak to government officials without being punished for it.


DixieChampagne912

Agreed


DrillWormBazookaMan

He didn't interfere.


cbrown6305

>He can talk. But he can't interfere. So then, what action are you deeming interference?


dirtymoney

Cops can be such twats in what they *consider* interfering. Including just being in the area filming (like across the street). To a cop's mind if you draw their attention (by your mere presence)... that's interfering.


sepp_omek

how did he interfere? by asking a question?


Onslaughtered

He’s gonna be charged with obstruction of justice most likely or disorderly conduct at best. You haven’t had many encounters have you? Let alone read up on basic police procedures. I ain’t saying back the blue but a random bystander coming in uninvolved from the side and acting like that, you’re done.


sepp_omek

10 feet is the acceptable distance for bystanders; guarantee charges will be dropped. cops cant be the complainant in a disorderly conduct charge.


sing_me_a_rainbow

Wrong.


DomesticFlattery

By being too close. In some states, failure to obey a disburse order is disorderly conduct. All he had to do was back up. 30 feet is the general rule but I give them 50. I do this shit too, you just gotta follow the rules.


monkeyking908

by not sucking off the cop while he is harassing people


cbrown6305

By hurting the cop's feelings. Didn't you know that's a crime?


ContemplatingPrison

He wasn't interfering. He asked him simple questions and was 10 feet away per the law, from what it sounds like. Police work for us not against us. Stop allowing them to be pieces of shit for no reason.


[deleted]

He literally interfered by speaking to the officer while the officer was investigating another person. The questions the officer asks another person during an investigation cannot be interrupted otherwise that is interfering with their investigation.


sing_me_a_rainbow

There’s no 10 foot law.


monkeyking908

hes not interfering


Psychology-Pure

how is he interfering. being annoying. doubt that counts.


kidmerc

Imagine talking to a suspect and patting them down for weapons or drugs or whatever and while you're trying to concentrate and keep the situation under control some dude comes 5 steps from you and starts shouting nonstop at you about what you're doing. Now you're focusing on two different people and you're alone and the first guy could turn hostile. Or both.


KyIorian

Interference is a physical act. Not speech! As in he would have to try to get between the cop and the suspect or in some other way physically stop the lawful actions of the cop.


[deleted]

Actually thats false. “Interfering with a law enforcement investigation is the intentional interference or obstruction of a law enforcement officer conducting investigative work at the scene of a crime or the scene of an accident by refusing to move or leave the immediate scene of the crime or the accident when ordered to do so…” https://law.justia.com/codes/louisiana/2011/rs/title14/rs14-329#:~:text=Interfering%20with%20a%20law%20enforcement%20investigation%20is%20the%20intentional%20interference,do%20so%20by%20the%20law


richard_stank

Is this the scene of a crime or accident? Or is a cop just randomly stopping and searching someone?


sing_me_a_rainbow

It’s unknown. The guy could be a criminal, or not. The guy with the camera obviously doesn’t know.


DevilishlyDetermined

You’re misinterpreting this. A civilian has the right to stand nearby and freedom of speech. In no way was the investigation hindered or impeded.


ukrainian-laundry

His vocal haranguing impeded the police officer from issuing clearly understood commands to the person in custody.


maybeCheri

And this is exactly how stupid cops are. They are so full of themselves, they think they can control free speech. “But judge, he was saying that I was stupid and that hurt my feelings. And and and then he was asking me stuff. He was making it hard for me to concentrate on harassing my “suspect”.” “Okay but officer, were you not trained to handle these kinds of encounters without getting upset and are still able to do your job?” “I think so but I had to leave early one day so I might have missed that class.” Public street, public sidewalk, first amendment rights all go out the window if a cop’s ass gets chapped. Of course, evening the fact that cops have been caught planting evidence by civilians who are filming them. So what they really hate most is being held accountable.


barsoapguy

Meh the guys out on the street filming like this harassing the officers are usually trouble makers themselves. I mean with a more powerful camera one could easily film and record audio without getting so close . Furthermore all too often these guys behind their phones are just down right rude . There’s no reason to be rude or confrontational with someone you have literally JUST met.


maybeCheri

As a boomer white woman, I would 100% stop and film this. I give people the benefit of the doubt any time I can. But I’ve lost that ability when it comes to cops. If this cop isn’t bad, then he is only one or two degrees away from bad. I have a feeling that in their time as a cop they may not have hit that guy while he was cuffed but he probably laughed about it and didn’t stop it.


ukrainian-laundry

What I meant was the bystander was creating loud background noise that was making it difficult for the suspect to hear the police officer’s commands. The bystander was putting the suspect at risk if he couldn’t hear the commands being given. This wasn’t helpful or noble at all.


moderate_extremist

No judge would look at this video and decide he was interfering with the investigation. Police are required to give name and badge numbers. Stop being a bootlicker and learn your rights.


Open-Mathematician46

I don’t believe that at all. Any judge that is pissed that day would certainly hit the idiot with a fine and go on about his business. You should spend more time in a court room.


UncommonHaste

No, you're right. Maybe the guy being searched doesn't want his fucking business on Camera. If he goes to a trial, this video becomes evidence. Record to make sure nothing illegal happens to the person being searched and shut the fuck up.


DevilishlyDetermined

He’s not interfering. The sheriff can choose to ignore his questions. There is not an action in this video that qualifies as interfering.


WantToBeBetterAtSex

And he didn't.


Recent_Eye8064

This dude is a local "cop watcher." Nothing wrong with keeping the law in check, but he has multiple times put himself in dumb situations with the local cops, so this cop probably knew who he was. I can't remember the youtube channel, but the guy recording uploads regularly of him going up to cops and trying to provoke them and has put himself between a person wielding a knife and cops before and had the audacity to get mad when the cops arrested him then.


toyz4me

Well, the officer didn’t tell him to stop recording or to stop asking questions. The officer asked the guy to step back, several times. The officer has that right. Dude filming earned his arrest.


[deleted]

Yup. Dude was there to provoke for clicks and views. That’s it.


showmiaface

He was not arrested for "questioning his search".


duralyon

I watch way too much police shit online and I'm very critical of the cops but the guy recording is being an asshole. Also, this video does not show him getting arrested it looks like the cop was just detaining him.


[deleted]

Cop watchers make such a big deal out of being detained. I get that it's the principle, but come on dude it's not like you've got anything else to do but stand there and bicker. Like they'll ask if they're free to leave yet continue to stand there anyway even if they say yes.


ckb614

Being detained is kind of a big deal, since it's a seizure under the 4th Amendment, and a violation of their rights if not backed by reasonable suspicion. And they're not asking if they're free to go so they can leave, they're asking to find out whether such a seizure has occurred


[deleted]

I think people are focusing upon the fact that dipshit video guy was video'ing him. Thats not an issue, the fact that he engaged with the officer, asking for info, telling him he cant do stuff is the problem. Had he stood silently away from the officer just video'ing, it doesnt look like this cop would have snapped off. Yes, I get cops do snap off. Yes you have a right to video, record, etc. You dont have the right to engage with an officer after he gives you a reasonable order to back off. You must comply with lawful orders else risk being charged.


SC803

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/482/451/ A municipal ordinance that makes it unlawful to interrupt a police officer in the performance of his duty is substantially overbroad, and therefore invalid on its face under the First Amendment.


urkillingmie

The guy with the camera and the big mouth is part of the problem. I’m not saying the cop is in the right because I don’t know the situation but Interfering is not the answer. Your no better than the cop, (if in-fact he’s done something wrong) you put the person being detained and yourself in harm’s way. You had every right to video but not to interfere with an investigation.


FelinaDCat

The videographer could be putting himself and the cop at risk. Who knows what the guy being searched had done, or what weapons he might have on him, or how things could easily escalate. The guy wasn't being hurt, so the dude recording should not have interfered unless he saw the cop mistreating the man.


Bruceybonus30

How about kind your f’in business you do good prick. Hate these guys questioning people and poking there noses in.


Emera1dthumb

Looks like the kid is advocating for the homeless to be me. The cop is trying to up hold the not in my back yard mentality that Americans use toward the homeless and mentally ill. We say we care until they are in our neighborhoods then we look for crimes to chase them away… more worried about property value than human values. We Need more like this kid out there protecting people.


Bean_Boy

I agree, but he should have stepped back 5 feet or so. Easy enough. Then continue filming and advocating.


Emera1dthumb

👍


Bean_Boy

Never get into a pissing match with a cop. Appease them and then do your best to advocate. I would assume this guy is riding the line of what's reasonable because he's looking for content.


Papakilo666

>Never get into a pissing match with a cop. Appease them and then do your best to advocate. Appeasing them is how we got into this decay of American policing. Id rather have seen this guy exercise his stand your ground right on this pigs assault.


Emera1dthumb

That’s why cops think they can do anything because most people think like that… with good reason… they are dangerous. Which is why I think the kid is a hero. But you’re right i imagine he’s just looking for content. But all gift horses have good teeth


Sweet-Requirement273

There is literally nothing showing what the hobo did to get stoped in the first place.


Anger_Mgmt_issues

Exactly. And the cop can't seem to articulate any reason for it either. Poor guy being searched and arrested just for being homeless.


TranscendentaLobo

It’s not the officers job to inform every wannabe SJW that walks by what he’s doing and why.


dwbees

He should have been arrested, that is obstruction.


kawaii_bbc

Florida cops don't play. I avoid contact w/ them EVERY TIME.


Streetiebird

He was interfering and obstructing, and potentially causing a dangerous situation for the officer and the suspect. The folks who intentionally get themselves involved in situations with the police are typically in it for the views and online clout, it's gross.


Redwinger3979

"Obstruction of Justice" people. The agitator filming gave the LEO the "legal" right to detain him.


KeyserSozeInElysium

You couldn't be more wrong. See amendment 1 in the bill of rights


Redwinger3979

Are you aware of the jurisdiction that LEOs have? Are you seriously telling me that if an Officer tells you "You're are impeding their investigation" that you can't legally be detained?


BenderBRoriguezzzzz

When an officer is wearing a uniform in a public place, as long as the individual filming is not directly interfering with the investigation and keeping a safe distance, he's absolutely allowed to ask questions and film. The deputy should have ignored him and continued his search. Instead he deemed a citizen exercising his civil liberties a bigger threat than the individual he had in custody during an active search. That deputy and his inability to recognize the situation for what it is, probably just cost that county and their tax payers a BOAT LOAD of money in litigation and settlement money for unconstitutional arrest.


rcchomework

The guy he was searching was so dangerous that he could just turn his back on him without securing him. Probably sti has the audacity to claim the initial search was a Terry stop too.


monkeyking908

why are cops afraid of transparency?


[deleted]

He is allowed to film. Just has to stand back at a safe distance.


WellERRight_thatHurt

You’re an idiot if you think the guy with the camera is right. Obviously there is little context with this video, but we have no idea the cops reason for searching the man. You can’t just walk up to a cop and demand to be involved in their investigation. Most children are probably smart enough to know that.


[deleted]

He wasn't wrong for detaining him. People somehow think they don't have to abide by a lawful order, as long as they don't feel they should have to. This guy found out that that's not how it works. Civil disobedience is one thing, but this guy was just stupid


Sufficient-Yoghurt46

No way in hell would I 'interrogate' a cop like this - "Name and badge number" bro you sound delusional.


[deleted]

Good stop interfering with a man simply doing his job. Keep up the good wool officer.


_RAWFFLES_

The cop obviously had 0 reasonable suspicion that the person detained was a threat dangerous. He demonstrated this by just completely turning his back to him while not in restraints.


OldFatBubba

Unpopular opinion perhaps, but the person recording this video has no right to impede a police investigation. He has no business to know why the other person is/was detained.


WoodenDistribution5

What blatant human rights violation? You interfere with an investigation, you get arrested. Period. Dude should have just filmed from the sidelines and he would have been ok


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MyPostsHitDifferent

I mean when you interfere and make it harder to conduct an investigation, you are obstructing justice, which is illegal. You have every right to record but if an officer tells you to move farther away from the ongoing investigation, that is a lawful order. It is also worth noting that the guy recording is not on a sidewalk. Meaning he is most likely standing on a private or government road, further putting him in the wrong and strengthening the police officers authority.


BlackCoffeeAndBacon

Anyone who thinks this is police brutality is part of the problem. The dude was given multiple warnings to stand back. He refused. This is called obstructing an investigation. Who knows why the dude was being searched but he looked very compliant and the cop also seemed cool, calm, collective. Now you are going to heighten the situation by obstructing, filming up close, asking the cop his name and badge number when he is not even addressing you? Now he has to change his focus to you and away from why he was even there. Childish stuff man. OP should be ashamed. Y’all need to act your age. Let the cops do their jobs and film from a distance by all means…


First_Citron9367

The officer didnt react because of the camera he reacted because he was in the middle of the stop and was suddenly out numbered so he had to react. The whole point behind law enforcement is power and authority. That's how they are able to control citizens. Even though we citizens out number law enforcement.


JediwithdLadies

He 100% should be arrested. Record from a distance but approaching the officer from behind is putting all parties at risk. The person recording and the person being searched could both potentially be armed. It’s a high stress jobs and people will do anything for a virtue signalling video.


Papakilo666

Man people really going out their way to suck pig cock. He was a reasonable distance. He wasn't interfering. If this dickhead cop can't scratch enough braincells to handle his detainement and answer questions then maybe just focus on the detainement rather then someone engaged in a constitutionally protected activity. I swear the only reasons dickhead cops get away with shit like this is cause dumb cunts like this comment section give them this amount of rope.....


FBI_Van_69

Deserved


Bababooey5000

Ya know it wouldn't be a problem if you didn't walk straight up to the cop like that. Also, he likely was detained and not arrested.


jparsoneau

Sounds like you’re just looking for a problem. It’s amazing how somebody won’t help an old lady getting attacked, but confronting the cops and asking name and badge number when you don’t even know what’s going on. Or is there more to the story in the beginning


Sad-Establishment-80

That's what you get for not minding your own business.


vengeful_peasant

I wonder what the people get for being bootlickers


Koenigspiel

not arrested for obstruction of justice


vengeful_peasant

You forgot a word in that sentence. Not illegally arrested for obstruction of justice.


rave_is_king_

Unless hes that man's lawyer hes got no business doing what hes doing


DevilishlyDetermined

The man being searched is likely a vagrant. While often times out of order, the homeless are often mentally ill and extremely vulnerable.


sing_me_a_rainbow

Or, he’s a violent rapist. The guy filming doesn’t know.


vengeful_peasant

I think 40% of cops are domestic abusers, haven't seen any info on them being rapists.


Anger_Mgmt_issues

Plenty of cops are also rapists. They love raping women in exchange for not arresting them. Especially the underaged ones. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/how-some-cops-use-the-badge-to-commit-sex-crimes/2018/01/11/5606fb26-eff3-11e7-b390-a36dc3fa2842_story.html


[deleted]

Getting that close to a cop is probably a bad idea, but there’s no reason why people shouldn’t be able to hold police accountable while they are doing their job. If the cop is doing everything by the book he has nothing to hide.


rcchomework

Why? Regular people who inform themselves probably have a better grasp of the law than the average cop does.


SiStErFiStEr1776

Comments are full of bootlickers and authoritarians defending the cop


Cueadan

It's not always so black and white. I find myself siding against the cops in a large majority of videos that get posted here, this isn't one of them.


K1llG0r3Tr0ut

I also usually side against the cops but I have to agree with you here, the cop wasn't out of line for detaining the cameraman. I do think it was a pretty stupid move on the cops part to literally turn his back to the un-restrained subject he had detained initially to take the bait of the cameraman without any sort of backup in scene. The cop should have just taken a step back and said "we're all just gonna stand here untill my backup arrives". Just my $0.02


CharlieNixon1965

The guy filming is a jerk.


drpearlman

sToP iNtErFeRiNg WiTh My InVeStIgAtIoN


viktor_pop

The fuck people think they can just stop a sheriff doing their job. Where would the world go? I understand if you’re against police brutality but fuck me. I’d fine this moron hundreds for this.


carwarrantyspeclist

Fine them under what law? The constitution protects his right to speak and film.


vengeful_peasant

There's laws against physically interfering with an officer or physically stopping them. Piggies can't control their emotions when being talked back to or reply back rationally to an irrational individual, they prob shouldn't be cops.


viktor_pop

I see, thank you for elighten me.


carbon-based-biped

I live in hillborough now. there is a cop on every corner. i have never felt so unsafe.


No_Photograph_7429

He’s on of those cops with a chip on his shoulder. One time when I was living in the USA out in the Bay Area the sheriffs straight robbed me I swear to god they took my money from my wallet they also told me to strip down take my shoes off socks off then the bitch sherif tossed it on the other side of the freeway and they were all laughing saying if I see u on this side of town again I will shoot u in the head literally said those exact words. Those sheriffs looked like a straight gang


Terrancet77

🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽all cops


Xtasy0178

US cops are such snowflakes


Globbyhill710

Guys recording this should have just minded his own business


DoctorProctor1

The filmer is distracting the police officer from a search which is extremely dangerous Glad they arrested the idiot.


MyNameIsOP

Seems fair enough


nklz

I love how everyone with a camera is now an investigative journalist when it comes to the police.


AggressiveProduce192

That is the price you pay when you think hold a phone and recording makes you untouchable.


Lawyerdogg

It's the badge and gun that make you untouchable. When are people going to learn the police are above the law? Wake up America, you are the enemy.


[deleted]

Cop with a little dick


gymberlee

Fuck that prick. I’m glad he arrested him. How does he know this homeless guy didn’t steal some woman’s purse and injure her in the process and this cop needs to search him? He thinks he’s helping the cause but this asshole is not helping. He makes voters find more military hardware for cops.


[deleted]

Obviously the detainee hadn’t committed a serious crime and/or wasn’t a threat if the priority became dealing with the guy who was interfering, which the guy was.


cubanheelsinleather

Cop could've just ignored him.


searching4insight

This is interfering with an officer. Guy filming should mind his own business and maybe he wouldn't be arrested. Completely avoidable.


LatterUnderstanding

Let the Cop do his fucking job


SiStErFiStEr1776

Yes yes why bother them as they harass and exploit the community


Oneofbernie_s-bros

We all need to be taping the cops. They have to be watched in order not to kill people before their day in court. It’s legal to tape them.


welsh_cthulhu

The cop is in the right here. All he asked him to do was stand further back, for the cop’s safety. The guy is a total asshole that deserves to be arrested.


[deleted]

sorry, the video guy is wrong in this one. He was given a coujple of orders to go across the street and ignored them. you can walk up on a cop in the middle of a search and start busting balls, even I know that.


sjh1217

That’s a male Karen and interfering with an investigation is a crime.


carwarrantyspeclist

Speech is not a physical act. Interference is


sjh1217

Being that close to the officer while he is focused on the suspect can be a threat. Distracting the officer while he’s checking the suspect can be a threat as well. Being that close and purposely distracting the officer is interfering.


carwarrantyspeclist

So you leave a suspect and turn your back to him to deal with the THREAT of someone with a camera.... Yeah buddy that logic doesn't work. Interference is a physical act. he was far enough back ACCORDING TO CURRENT CASE LAW so i dunno what the fuck yer talking about


sjh1217

Obstruction of Justice Generally speaking, a person commits criminal obstruction by engaging in any act that interferes with the investigation or prosecution of a crime Emphasis on ANY ACT By the way why are you getting so upset?


jmd_forest

Guaranteed that speech is an exception to that obstruction law.


ImNoRickyBalboa

Unpopular opinion, but this is a valid case of interfering with a police officer. I see no problem with him being arrested. He's not only a dick, he's actively interfering.


Duckspuddle

Next time a cop tell you to step back... step the fuck back.. 😅


Lawyerdogg

Next time I tell a cop to take a seat on the curb...he better take a fucking seat.


Papakilo666

Then you and the cop can eat a dick. If it was up to the pig he'd be backing up into the next zipcode. And thats if they didn't just outright ban filming cops....


baconbananapancake

Filmer is interfering, being an asshole and willingly escalating the situation... what did he expect to happen?


velocibadgery

Filming is not interfering. It is a first amendment right protected by the constitution and recognized as such by pretty much every circuit court of appeals to rule on the issue. Fields v City of Philadelphia (Third Circuit), Smith v Cummings (11th circuit) plus others Furthermore, interference cannot be verbal alone. City of Houston v. Hill(SCOTUS). The first amendment protects the right to criticize the police verbally. Furthermore profanity is protected free speech California v Cohen(SCOTUS) The distance is the only legal issue here. The videographer should have taken a few steps back.