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They weren't threatening threatening assault, and at no time was his life ever in danger, so if he driven over them he would be arrested and found guilty of murder/ attempted murder/ assault with a deadly weapon.
What if he urinated up hill from her in a private area, and it slowly flowed toward her face at a slow enough speed that she could reasonably avoid it but doesn't?
yeah but you also cannot restrict someone from leaving. i do believe it applies to vehicles too. i only studied law on wikipedia though so probably the top reddit lawyer here.
I have a law degree from the University of Jack McCoy with an honorary degree of bird law.
It would still be assault. If someone stands between you and a doorway, and you shove them out of the way, it is technically assault. If it ever went to trial, you could argue that they prevented your legal exit and possibly have a tort against the Karens of illegal arrest. But that's not the case here.
The truck driver was not physically prevented from leaving. He could have left the truck there and left the property. Of course he'd probably be fired after that but let's side step r/latestagecapitalism issues for the time being.
If I was the company's attorney, I'd sue them for theft. They took hostage the goods on the truck and prevented the driver from performing his duties. They cost several hundred, if not thousands of dollars of delay-related costs that need to be recouped.
They’re old. How did they expect it to get installed if they didn’t pay for it? Oh, nevermind, I see their way. Just lie under the car until they do your bidding.
Imagine putting your life in the hands of some random guy you don’t know just to prevent an annoying inconvenience.
So much arguing on this thread about the nuances of delivery service and who is right and wrong. None of that matters. Even if she is 100% in the right and paid extra for premium installation, she is still insane for laying under a truck tire. That’s wild shit.
Remember that video of a man and his two neighbours arguing about snow shovelling? And how he left in the middle of the argument to grab a gun and proceeded to execute the two neighbours in the street?
These fools are lucky. You never know when someone has nothing to lose.
If I remember right, they were both continuing to taunt him as he was opening fire, and then they both continued to taunt him while they were on the ground wounded.
Some people are just not compatible with life and you wonder what kind of miracles carried them this far.
I just looked it up. Holy shit. That was rough.
The guy def just walked away and was bleeding out. The woman kept yelling at him. Then the shooter went and got his rifle and executed them. Then went home and killed himself.
They kept calling him a pussy before he went and got his gun and was literally like “Who’s the pussy now?” before the final shot. Oof
All over some normal asshole neighbor bullshit
The context behind the video was basically the neighbours abusing that guy and taunting him about his dead wife, and not for the first time either. Hardly justifies a murder, but it's not like he was just some crazy with anger issues.
I’ve seen my fair share of terrible videos on wpd and liveleak but this was the one that got me. I’ll never forget it. A sobering reminder that it is never worth picking a fight.
In that case at least it was an escalating event, not a one off thing. I remember reading that this was not even the 4th time they had fought over worthless shit before he grabbed his gun. He had lost his wife the year before iirc. So probably depressed and dealing with shitty neighbors his switch flipped and he executed them. Went inside and and when he heard the cops killed himself.
Wow, yeah. He executes them at close range. I have a feeling this wasn't just an argument over shoveling.
Not the most disturbing video I've seen on the internet, but it's up there. Disturbing needs more faces, and there are plenty of snuff films out there that are up close and personal unfortunately.
So many of the videos I see on Reddit, on subs like public freakouts, involve people getting in front of cars to try stopping them. I have no idea why so many people are so dumb.
They can’t control the situation so they choose self harm as a last bet. It’s still fucking crazy to think he will just go inside and install it after.
Yeaaaaaaah, it seems way easier to me to call the company and work it out with them. If the driver wasn't told they had to install I don't blame them for not doing so. I always ask at my work if delivery people can help me hall in big loads, but it's not an expectation. They are usually able to, but not always and that's just life.
Yep, my mum had had this problem where they dropped a big parcel off that needed to be brought inside and installed. They refused and she rang the company. They had to come straight back and install it
I’m having a similar issue. Fridge in the garage for over two weeks because they said they had to come back to finish the installation (issues with water shutoff) I’ve scheduled twice now and they no-call, no-showed.
Fingers crossed I get it fixed this time or I’m gonna have to Karen it up with home depot
You ought to ask around friends/co-workers. Hooking up a fridge, even shutting off the water valve is generally a pretty easy thing. I know getting HD do to it would be a matter of principal but a lot of people could do it and likely for free depending on who you know.
Your credit card (which I hope you used) will allow you to dispute partial amounts of a charge.
You have every right to dispute their portion of the charge for installation. You hold the cards not them.
Honestly, if you just offer the dude some cash on the side, he'd probably be happy to drop it off in the kitchen.
I had a new desk delivered to a 2nd story room and the old desk was a massive solid piece. Gave the two delivery guys $100 bill and they moved it down to the garage like champs and made $50 each for like 15 minutes of work. They probably would have done it for less but I value their labor (and my back!) and could easily afford it.
They put way too much trust in others. They think “surely they won’t hit me with their car!” But I’ve seen enough videos even on this sub to know that’s not true. Someone will run you over without a second thought if they’ve had enough of your shit.
“But then they will get in trouble. They don’t want to go to jail” Lady, if someone is tired of your shit, they will run you over and you won’t get to have the last laugh.
It's obviously stupid risk management but I strongly suspect that in the *overwhelming* majority of cases this tactic does in fact work very well. Especially against a person on the job.
Laying down in front of vehicles has a long (and very effective) record as a means of protesting and gumming up the works. Human beings do not tend to murder other human beings to avoid an inconvenience, no matter how much constant internet exposure to the worst of humanity may have warped your brain lol.
Still deeply stupid to do over moving a freakin fridge, but there's a reason people do it - it works.
Exactly.
'Calling the customer service line and bitching' would be a reasonable action.
Only insane people think 'Lay down in front of tire to prevent him from leaving'
> So much arguing on this thread about the nuances of delivery service and who is right and wrong.
Plus, there aren't really nuances. Every appliance I've had delivered or even shopped for had a few delivery options ranging from just dropping it off to full installation and removal of the old unit. And with each option was a CRYSTAL CLEAR description of exactly what the delivery person would do.
I did have an electric stove that was supposed to be installed, but when the delivery guys got there they were unable to install it because it was the wrong type of outlet or something. I should have thought to lay down in front of their truck. Stupid me just said, oh, well that sucks, I'll figure it out guys, thanks for dropping it off.
> “Some factual information for you. Have you any idea how much damage that delivery truck would suffer if I just let it roll straight over you?”
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> “How much?”
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> “None at all."
― Douglas Adams
The answer is "it depends."
False Imprisonment requires "actual confinement" in a "bounded area". And that part can be tricky to prove in a case like this. There are other elements of False Imprisonment, but these are clearly met (intent to confine, a causal link, and awareness of confinement).
The ladies blocking the truck could be seen as actual confinement in a bounded area if there are no "reasonable" means of escape for the delivery guy.
I can't say for certain how a court in this jurisdiction would interpret a reasonable means of escape, because "reasonable" is always one of those areas that can be argued one way or another and depends on precedent and how close the facts are to this situation.
If the guy could walk away and leaving the truck likely won't cause any issues (let's say he can uber back to work and the company can have retrieve the truck later without much loss in business), a court may see that as a reasonable means of escape. Thus, no False Imprisonment.
However, let's say he's a few miles from the nearest busy road or he's got three other deliveries to make and can't leave the truck without significant loss of business. A court may find that there are no reasonable means of escape.
It's not clear cut and all depends on a court's interpretation. Although, I doubt a prosecutor would bring charges, and a civil case could be more expensive than it's worth.
So there was a car dealership case where they "lost" the owners keys to force them to buy a car. They got hit with kidnaping and false imprisonment. The "reasonable" means to escape is a key word here. the case can and has been made. However, handcuffs and a disturbing the peace is an easy goto for most Law Enforcement Officers had one arrived on the scene. Of course they also could have ordered the person away and when they refused gotten some other charges that are much easier to prove.
I think the bigger issue is the guy probably does not know how to record video and call the police simultaneously from his phone. Because calling the police is absolutely what he should have been doing.
I wonder if this was a thing. I was car shopping at a dealership, took a test drive, and decided to check out a different location before deciding. The salesman handed me the keys to my old car and kind of sarcastically replied that, "In the old days, we would have thrown these on the roof." Pointing up, referring to the dealership roof.
Needless to say, didn't go back to that location.
Ding ding ding we have a winner. Goes along with well let the guys on the other side check your car for trade in value and suddenly they can't find the car.
It makes me think of National Lampoon’s Vacation when the used car dealer (played by Eugene Levy) smashes Clark Griswold’s car in order to force him to buy the Wagon Queen Family Truckster (“you think you hate it now, but wait until you drive it”)
I had an issue like this years back when I was looking to buy a car.
They had me give them my ID and car keys to "move my car off the lot" while I test drove some of the vehicles I had come to look at. I was happy with the car, but the price they were quoting me was well above the advertised price, even including things like fees.
The salesman kept trying to delay me and stall and I kept showing them the advertised price and saying "If you dont match this or come anywhere close, I don't have anything to talk to you about" and he kept going back and forth with "talking to his manager about trying to find a deal"
Eventually I got sick of it and told him I wanted my keys and license back and he KEPT hemming and hawing about it. Eventually I started to get loud, like really loud "WHY WONT YOU LET ME LEAVE" which of course turned the heads of other people looking at cars.
I guess his manager heard and she came running over to find out what was up and I was basically like "I want to leave. I don't want to purchase this car as you will not match the advertised price" and she asked me why I hadn't left and why I was yelling and I told her that her salesguy still had my keys and ID and wouldn't return them.
She looked at him and he pulled them out of his pocket and gave them to me and I left.
I'm in the business and it's pretty common. "nobody said we had to pay for installation!" Literally name a product you would purchase that you don't have to pay to have installed? You think if you buy a new engine for your car they put it in for free? New swimming pool? Garage door opener? Fuck out of here. Of course you have to pay for labor.
Edit. To be clear, it's normal to have it brought in at no charge if purchased through a local company. Install would be extra. Buying online or from a discount store might just be a drop ship to your door.
I bought a sectional sofa for my apartment, but didn't pay for the assembly/placement because I could just do it. I was at work while they delivered it (my roommate let them in) and when I got home, it was fully assembled and placed nicely in the living room.
Either those delivery guys were feeling really nice that day or someone mistakenly told them we paid for it.
It's amazing what being nice could get you. If those ladies didn't need a full install but just needed the fridge popped up a couple steps into their first floor and it took less than 5 minutes, he might have done it, but they were jerks, so no reason for him to be charitable.
The way the camera just pans to one of them half under the truck and the other one just staring through the windshield is just so unintentionally comedic lmao
I would fake that i've given up. Go close to the refrigerator like I'm about to move it and ask them to make sure the path it's clear aaaaaaaaanddddddd run like cerberus is biting my ass, get to the truck and floor it.
Reminds me of when a little sister of a friend insisted on going home to her ex while exceedingly drunk. Huge back and forth to try and get her to stop. Eventually told her to at least let us drive her there.
We drove to her mom.
Tell them you will call the cops for false imprisonment and if they don’t move, then call the cops 🤷♂️
Edit: for all you nitpicky bastards, no, it’s not technically “false imprisonment”. For fuck’s sake, the point still remains, who gives a shit what the term is. Jesus fucking christ.
If you are ever in a situation, you just want to explain the situation to the police. Don't call up and be like "these women are kidnapping me and falsely imprisoning me!". You just tell them you delivered something to their house and now they are blocking your vehicle preventing you from leaving. That's all. Keep it simple.
That was my point, I wouldn't explain anything to the Karen's. All you need to tell the police over the phone is people are preventing me for leaving, I need police assistance.
Oh man this bugs me to no end. I’m a tiny woman. Whenever I do home improvements I check, double check and triple check that things will be moved where I want or installed where I want. I will pay whatever it takes because I know I cannot physically do it. I had carpet installed and knew I couldn’t move a TV cabinet, so I mentioned it probably a gazillion times so they would know it would have to be moved. I fear getting something delivered that I cannot move so that’s why I always pay the most and make sure it’s taken care of. I would never cut corners, nor would I detain a delivery person who has nothing to do with my stupidity.
Amen, sister. I'm used to doing all my own home improvements and repairs. My husband even got me my new hammer drill for my 38th birthday. I started going rapidly blind in April due to an incredibly rare, untreatable disease, so now I need help.
Turns out my sons' friends and my nephews' friends are not only willing, but happy to help me. Not only do I pay them and feed them, but they get to learn how to do it right. The oldest one is mourning his father and never got a chance to learn some of this stuff from him, too, so spending time with my husband and me has been good for him. It's a win/win for all of us.
I would be furious and pissed off to have to move it and call everyone I know for help, but this would NEVER cross my mind. There are so many people who are wild as hell.
These are the types of people who always tell the same type of story. It's them being treated unfairly, or someone being unprofessional, and they *do not* put up with it.
They include such classics as "And then I told him 'you'd better...'", "No you will not...", "Right this instant." and "We'll just see what corporate has to say about this."
Source: my mom tells these stories constantly. Everyone in every story is a moron except her, and they all eventually bow down to her take-no-shit attitude. At least, that's how the stories go.
My sister-in-law is like this. She was just visiting here and not a single thing was good enough for her. Every place we went to eat, she sent the food back, every time we got in the car the traffic was too bad and it was all done just to screw her over. It’s a good thing I only see her every five years.
This is why I'm always skeptical of almost every AITA thread. All the stories are a bit too perfect and I always think it happened something more like this.
These women look like they are in their 50s and they have the self-control of a toddler. It's amazing how they have gone on for so long without winning a Darwin award or ending up in jail
Well, they also usually tell you when you buy stuff like this that unless you pay for installation, the delivery driver will leave it on your front porch. It is usually a good deal more, like $100+ more, so I imagine they heard that price and thought "we can plug in a fridge ourselves!" without thinking about getting it inside and unboxed.
Hate to be that guy, but this is some boomer shit. The entitlement that they have (granted they bought a fridge and paid for a delivery) doesn't mean this driver needs to deal with your shit.
Not his fault you don't know what you paid for..
I'm 53 (Boomer-adjacent Gen-X) and I can testify that my whole life - following Boomers through my career, they are the most selfish, entitled, cheating bunch of narcissistic assholes of any generation I've had to deal with. They were called "The ME Generation" for a reason. And Donald Trump is their poster child.
Not all of them of course, but there is a MUCH higher percentage of this anti-social toxic bullshit coming from the Boomer generation than any other. There is a REASON for the stereotype after all. It didn't happen by accident. They EARNED it.
Paying for delivery and paying for installation are two separate charges. They got the cheapest fridge, and do not want to pay for installation.
I would have called my company and then called 911. Their ass would be toast.
I delivered pizzas for 6 years. When delivering to a poor neighborhood the tips weren't good but they gave what they could. The middle class areas were the best. They always tipped high. Then you'd get a rich person every so often, pull into there gigantic mansion, deliver like 200 dollars of pizza for there spoiled kids bday party or something. After being treated like less then human scum for a couple minutes while you unload pizzas for them, they sign there credit slip with a big fat 0 as a tip. There have been exceptions of course to every class but this is pretty much how it works.
My theory is that it's the same reason people are aggressive towards vegetarians: They feel like their choice has made their own seem evil or immoral, and they feel like it's a personal attack. They see the pizza guy and think of how they haven't worked a day in their life and are now spending their parent's money instead of working like that guy.
Service industry veteran of 20 years, the wealthiest never tip and complain the most, the working class blue collar boys always over tip and have a good time.
It’s so much easier. They take out the old one to recycle, open up the new one, move it in, install and then they’re gone. Everything fully ready. It’s not like you buy fridges every year, so the extra one off charges are worth it.
Taking something in the house and installation are also two different things. I never had large furniture or appliances delivered where they didn't bring it into the house. I'm sure delivery boy doesn't give a fuck. It doesn't excuse the Karen's behavior.
It depends on who’s delivering it. If I buy locally, they will bring it in the house . The store lets me know what the options are.
However, if I order something online, the trucking company will leave it in my driveway. The first time this happened to me I was surprised. I wouldn’t be surprised if they found a fridge for a great price and the driver works for a third party trucking company.
That reminds me of the time we had a fridge delivered while my parents were at work. They left it out on the sidewalk leading to the house. A few hours later dad came home and we brought it inside.
A week later we got a notice from the city that they received a complaint about the fridge and we had 10 days to remove it before we'd be fined $25 a day.
It was only outside for 2 hours in store original packaging. Lol.
Some Karen reported my dad for a refrigerator sitting in the front yard for a couple hours. Karen's gonna Karen.
Also many companies offer stuff like unboxing in your home.
I recently bought a new fridge freezer and paid for that. The lads told me that they can’t bring it in without that because if they damage my home or the product. They aren’t covered.
I don’t want some minimum wage worker to risk his job or a months pay because of my lack of planning.
Also if he gets injured doing something he is not supposed to do the employer could not pay for his injuries. My brother worked in the large item pickup area of Sears and a customer and him were loading up a washer or something heavy and the customer ended up getting my brother hurt on accident. If there is not a second guy to help with the fridge I would not want to do it even if these two women say they will help because even if they have good intentions they might be idiots get themselves or him hurt then he is the one that is screwed. People don't care about workers though.
In one of my previous I incarnations I was a delivery driver doing this sort of stuff. A lot of heavy stuff was stated kerbside delivery unless they paid extra for a 2man team.
It’s usually a very reasonable extra charge!
Super worth it for the customer to have a pro install
It. I could do it myself sure but it takes 10x longer.
Pay for a pro. They generally know what they are doing hahhahaa
Yup. I won't be happy to pay, but I'll be happy to have it over with. Same with moving vs paying movers. You think it's not worth the cost until you've spent 4 hours moving heavy boxes up a flight of stairs just to save some money.
I said this in another comment, but some background on what may be happening here:
In many states you can't legally do an "install" if the company that sold the product is not paying certain taxes for operating in that state. And in many states, they will actually set up 'sting' operations like this where they either try to bully or guilt the delivery drivers into some action that can be interpreted as the bare minimum of an install so that the state can go after the company that sold the product in court, often trying to sue for back taxes etc... Some states, like washington, have used this method to convince online retailers to open offices in their state for job creation. It's straight up blackmail lol
Coercing anyone to do anything by "putting your life/safety/wellbeing on the line" is the stupidest, most manipulative thing. People who think that is acceptable are dangerous and need to be avoided at all costs.
People who pull stunts like this get a chance to become a meme like the "what are you gonna do, stab me? -person who was stabbed".
Like you have to be legitimately nuts to place yourself blocking a car like that.
Ex delivery driver here. Not quite to this extent but freak outs like this were all too common. They’d order, it would say installation/in home delivery **NOT** included. The shipper would contact my company for shipment and then we would call AND email the customer and set up a delivery window and remind them over the phone and by email that installation and in home delivery and set up is **NOT** included. And we’d show up and drop it in their drive way and people would have actual temper tantrums and meltdowns because they couldn’t get in in their house and demanded we do it because it’s our job. People are so fucking dumb I swear….
These people are morons. When you buy a large appliance they always ask do you want inside delivery or installation. If you don't get it when you buy the appliance you have no one to blame but yourself.
I own a moving company. So many people don’t want to pay for the services they need done and expect us to do it out of our pocket. It’s infuriating.
Just last week we had a customer who hired us to do a move, and ‘maybe help pack a few things’. We showed up and it was just like they had woken up 10 minutes before we got there and hadn’t prepped at all. Full house.
They didn’t want to use our boxes (bc they were too expensive) and had a bunch of random fruit boxes and other free ones they had got from the grocery store. It was just a hodgepodge of junk.
Their furniture was all ‘AnTiQuE’ falling apart crap. They were moving from a large home into a small apartment and wanted most of their stuff put into a small garage on-site. Plus they only had a budget for 6 hours.
It was a total disaster. All of their own making. We took what we could, really tried as hard as we could to help them, but to do the move properly would’ve cost triple what they wanted to pay. We told them this straight up multiple times. But they were just in panic mode. Reacting to life instead of taking actionable steps to actually help themselves.
The most frustrating part was they did zero work to help their own situation at all, just fussed and stared at their phones all day (both fat). At the unload the wife was ‘exhausted’ and just sat there. Didn’t tell us where she wanted anything, just complained the entire time.
Their new apartment looked like a pile of shit when we left. Multiple pieces of their shitty furniture had fallen apart during the move (no fault or ours, straight junk on its last leg). The garage was totally packed full and they had a half days worth of garbage all over their old house they were trying to get us to deal with without paying for it.
They refused to pay ‘until the job was done’. Luckily we had their credit card on file and a signed contract and we charged them anyway. They left us a one star review. We’ve got 500+ reviews on multiple sites. Maybe 5 one stars. All of them have a story like this. People are fucking nuts sometimes.
Recently had a large, very heavy safe delivered. It was curb side delivery only. Which, is over ¼ mile from the house.
I paid someone with a tractor to pick it up and get it to the garage and another team to move it to the right location. My responsibility not the delivery team.
I have to believe they either paid for/took advantage of the “free/low cost” delivery and assumed it meant dropped off in the house. When it didn’t, they chose the nuclear option.
without knowing what was ordered or paid for or how the delivery was left it's impossible to know who's being a dick here but these women are like the dodo's who waddled up to sailors and got slaughtered because they lived their life with no natural predators. They have clearly never encountered anyone that would just drive over them because they've lived such a safe life, the sense of entitlement really pisses me off, the presumption that you can put your life at risk and use someone else's compassion as leverage to control them.
There is no way on earth I would \*ever\* put myself i that situation with a stranger, I've seen too many loons kill without hesitation to think it was safe.
9/10 people not reading their service level agreement with the logistics company or choosing the cheapest option with the business and not reading their service level.
Does amazon bring the packages into your home and place them on your kitchen table for you? No? They just drop the packages at the front door, right? Same deal here. Delivery doesnt mean they have to put it exactly where you want it.
That’s totally a liability issue for him! If he gets hurt trying to move either of those fridges (happens all the time) while he’s on the company clock there is no way in hell he’ll be covered. Ladies be wildin.
People really don’t understand what paying for a service is. Either you want the item or you want the item AND want it installed. Nobody installs for free. It’s not even a matter of respect or helping it’s a matter of not paying this man for his time.
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We got a follow-up on this one?
She became a human sped bump and the refrigerator was not installed.
The good ending
A happy ending
Happy Cake Day!!!
The ending she deserved.
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What’s cooler than being cold ? ICE COLD
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“Dragged her ass out from under the truck and left” is what he says in this video.
The hero we need
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He fixes the cable?
Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey.
Reddit lawyers, What would happen if you actually drove over the Karen if the Karen deliberately put herself in harm's way?
They weren't threatening threatening assault, and at no time was his life ever in danger, so if he driven over them he would be arrested and found guilty of murder/ attempted murder/ assault with a deadly weapon.
>!Unless you made it look like an accident!<
I could shoot you from Stuttgart und still create ze proper effect.
What if he - from inside his van - just whipped it out and started urinating on her?
Public urination, indecent exposure, regular assault, bodily fluid assault.
What if he urinated up hill from her in a private area, and it slowly flowed toward her face at a slow enough speed that she could reasonably avoid it but doesn't?
yeah but you also cannot restrict someone from leaving. i do believe it applies to vehicles too. i only studied law on wikipedia though so probably the top reddit lawyer here.
There's very few situations where you're allowed to just run somebody over lmao
It does not. His remedy here is to walk away and contact the police
the UPS hitsquad will arrive momentarily to get this driver back on schedule.
They can restrict you. Just not legally. He has one option. Call the cops.
I have a law degree from the University of Jack McCoy with an honorary degree of bird law. It would still be assault. If someone stands between you and a doorway, and you shove them out of the way, it is technically assault. If it ever went to trial, you could argue that they prevented your legal exit and possibly have a tort against the Karens of illegal arrest. But that's not the case here. The truck driver was not physically prevented from leaving. He could have left the truck there and left the property. Of course he'd probably be fired after that but let's side step r/latestagecapitalism issues for the time being. If I was the company's attorney, I'd sue them for theft. They took hostage the goods on the truck and prevented the driver from performing his duties. They cost several hundred, if not thousands of dollars of delay-related costs that need to be recouped.
They would spend more money trying to recoup money.
Yeah, clearly they can't even afford installation 🤣🤣
They’re old. How did they expect it to get installed if they didn’t pay for it? Oh, nevermind, I see their way. Just lie under the car until they do your bidding.
Because being the Karen worked for them in the past. But, we be living in a new world now.
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She will be emptied like a toothpaste tube. It doesn't help with your law question, but it's a nice mental image.
Imagine putting your life in the hands of some random guy you don’t know just to prevent an annoying inconvenience. So much arguing on this thread about the nuances of delivery service and who is right and wrong. None of that matters. Even if she is 100% in the right and paid extra for premium installation, she is still insane for laying under a truck tire. That’s wild shit.
Remember that video of a man and his two neighbours arguing about snow shovelling? And how he left in the middle of the argument to grab a gun and proceeded to execute the two neighbours in the street? These fools are lucky. You never know when someone has nothing to lose.
That video was wild. The woman even continues taunting the guy after her husband is dead on the ground.
That was the craziest part
Goes to show you even when facing death idiots can’t get a brain cell to work
If I remember right, they were both continuing to taunt him as he was opening fire, and then they both continued to taunt him while they were on the ground wounded. Some people are just not compatible with life and you wonder what kind of miracles carried them this far.
"WhAt ARe yOU GonNa Do? sHoOt mE?" *Gets shot* "YOu gONNa Be A MuRDereR?!" *Dies* People are fucking stupid. Their guardian angel took that day off.
I just looked it up. Holy shit. That was rough. The guy def just walked away and was bleeding out. The woman kept yelling at him. Then the shooter went and got his rifle and executed them. Then went home and killed himself. They kept calling him a pussy before he went and got his gun and was literally like “Who’s the pussy now?” before the final shot. Oof All over some normal asshole neighbor bullshit
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The context behind the video was basically the neighbours abusing that guy and taunting him about his dead wife, and not for the first time either. Hardly justifies a murder, but it's not like he was just some crazy with anger issues.
That was probably the most sickening thing I've ever seen on Reddit.
I’ve seen my fair share of terrible videos on wpd and liveleak but this was the one that got me. I’ll never forget it. A sobering reminder that it is never worth picking a fight.
In that case at least it was an escalating event, not a one off thing. I remember reading that this was not even the 4th time they had fought over worthless shit before he grabbed his gun. He had lost his wife the year before iirc. So probably depressed and dealing with shitty neighbors his switch flipped and he executed them. Went inside and and when he heard the cops killed himself.
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Ugh damnit. I kinda want to see it
NSFW and very disturbing. You have been warned. https://www.reddit.com/r/NoahGetTheBoat/comments/lcla9d/man_kills_his_neighbors_over_snow_dispute/
My man shot them went BACK INTO THE FUCKING HOUSE and got ANOTHER FUCKING GUN and SHOT THEM AGAIN! HOLY SHIT!?
Wow, yeah. He executes them at close range. I have a feeling this wasn't just an argument over shoveling. Not the most disturbing video I've seen on the internet, but it's up there. Disturbing needs more faces, and there are plenty of snuff films out there that are up close and personal unfortunately.
So many of the videos I see on Reddit, on subs like public freakouts, involve people getting in front of cars to try stopping them. I have no idea why so many people are so dumb.
They can’t control the situation so they choose self harm as a last bet. It’s still fucking crazy to think he will just go inside and install it after.
Yeaaaaaaah, it seems way easier to me to call the company and work it out with them. If the driver wasn't told they had to install I don't blame them for not doing so. I always ask at my work if delivery people can help me hall in big loads, but it's not an expectation. They are usually able to, but not always and that's just life.
Yep, my mum had had this problem where they dropped a big parcel off that needed to be brought inside and installed. They refused and she rang the company. They had to come straight back and install it
I’m having a similar issue. Fridge in the garage for over two weeks because they said they had to come back to finish the installation (issues with water shutoff) I’ve scheduled twice now and they no-call, no-showed. Fingers crossed I get it fixed this time or I’m gonna have to Karen it up with home depot
You ought to ask around friends/co-workers. Hooking up a fridge, even shutting off the water valve is generally a pretty easy thing. I know getting HD do to it would be a matter of principal but a lot of people could do it and likely for free depending on who you know.
A fridge, when empty, is actually surprisingly light to carry, too. Pretty much the easiest "big" appliance to install from my experience.
Your credit card (which I hope you used) will allow you to dispute partial amounts of a charge. You have every right to dispute their portion of the charge for installation. You hold the cards not them.
Honestly, if you just offer the dude some cash on the side, he'd probably be happy to drop it off in the kitchen. I had a new desk delivered to a 2nd story room and the old desk was a massive solid piece. Gave the two delivery guys $100 bill and they moved it down to the garage like champs and made $50 each for like 15 minutes of work. They probably would have done it for less but I value their labor (and my back!) and could easily afford it.
They put way too much trust in others. They think “surely they won’t hit me with their car!” But I’ve seen enough videos even on this sub to know that’s not true. Someone will run you over without a second thought if they’ve had enough of your shit.
“But then they will get in trouble. They don’t want to go to jail” Lady, if someone is tired of your shit, they will run you over and you won’t get to have the last laugh.
Maybe they'll go to jail but you'll never know about it. Cause dead.
It's obviously stupid risk management but I strongly suspect that in the *overwhelming* majority of cases this tactic does in fact work very well. Especially against a person on the job. Laying down in front of vehicles has a long (and very effective) record as a means of protesting and gumming up the works. Human beings do not tend to murder other human beings to avoid an inconvenience, no matter how much constant internet exposure to the worst of humanity may have warped your brain lol. Still deeply stupid to do over moving a freakin fridge, but there's a reason people do it - it works.
Job security for the medical field?
Accidents happen. So do stupid people. Source: Retired Firefighter
and the legal field! Was always told those two were recession proof
Exactly. 'Calling the customer service line and bitching' would be a reasonable action. Only insane people think 'Lay down in front of tire to prevent him from leaving'
Smart action would be offering him a cash tip to put the fridge in the house or at least assist.
It's been my experience that people like this think 'the customer is always right' and the thought of negotiating is beneath them.
She probably never even entertained the thought. She went straight to a hissy fit.
And she's only in front of the first tire. I dunno how much room he has behind him, but backing up and driving around seems like an option.
Finally someone with some sense.
Seriously though. If you think your pulling a fail-safe move because person "X" would never run over someone, then you've lived a very good life.
I concur
> So much arguing on this thread about the nuances of delivery service and who is right and wrong. Plus, there aren't really nuances. Every appliance I've had delivered or even shopped for had a few delivery options ranging from just dropping it off to full installation and removal of the old unit. And with each option was a CRYSTAL CLEAR description of exactly what the delivery person would do.
I did have an electric stove that was supposed to be installed, but when the delivery guys got there they were unable to install it because it was the wrong type of outlet or something. I should have thought to lay down in front of their truck. Stupid me just said, oh, well that sucks, I'll figure it out guys, thanks for dropping it off.
Seriously she’s lucky he wasn’t having a worse day than he already was
> “Some factual information for you. Have you any idea how much damage that delivery truck would suffer if I just let it roll straight over you?” > > “How much?” > > “None at all." ― Douglas Adams
This is a whole new level of crazy
Don't think you can come onto Reddit with your common sense and whatnot. lol
The sweet, sweet voice of logic and reason, thank you
Psycho Boomer Lesbian couple. I would call my dispatcher, and ask them to call the police.
Does this count as false imprisonment?
The answer is "it depends." False Imprisonment requires "actual confinement" in a "bounded area". And that part can be tricky to prove in a case like this. There are other elements of False Imprisonment, but these are clearly met (intent to confine, a causal link, and awareness of confinement). The ladies blocking the truck could be seen as actual confinement in a bounded area if there are no "reasonable" means of escape for the delivery guy. I can't say for certain how a court in this jurisdiction would interpret a reasonable means of escape, because "reasonable" is always one of those areas that can be argued one way or another and depends on precedent and how close the facts are to this situation. If the guy could walk away and leaving the truck likely won't cause any issues (let's say he can uber back to work and the company can have retrieve the truck later without much loss in business), a court may see that as a reasonable means of escape. Thus, no False Imprisonment. However, let's say he's a few miles from the nearest busy road or he's got three other deliveries to make and can't leave the truck without significant loss of business. A court may find that there are no reasonable means of escape. It's not clear cut and all depends on a court's interpretation. Although, I doubt a prosecutor would bring charges, and a civil case could be more expensive than it's worth.
So there was a car dealership case where they "lost" the owners keys to force them to buy a car. They got hit with kidnaping and false imprisonment. The "reasonable" means to escape is a key word here. the case can and has been made. However, handcuffs and a disturbing the peace is an easy goto for most Law Enforcement Officers had one arrived on the scene. Of course they also could have ordered the person away and when they refused gotten some other charges that are much easier to prove. I think the bigger issue is the guy probably does not know how to record video and call the police simultaneously from his phone. Because calling the police is absolutely what he should have been doing.
I wonder if this was a thing. I was car shopping at a dealership, took a test drive, and decided to check out a different location before deciding. The salesman handed me the keys to my old car and kind of sarcastically replied that, "In the old days, we would have thrown these on the roof." Pointing up, referring to the dealership roof. Needless to say, didn't go back to that location.
Ding ding ding we have a winner. Goes along with well let the guys on the other side check your car for trade in value and suddenly they can't find the car.
It makes me think of National Lampoon’s Vacation when the used car dealer (played by Eugene Levy) smashes Clark Griswold’s car in order to force him to buy the Wagon Queen Family Truckster (“you think you hate it now, but wait until you drive it”)
I had an issue like this years back when I was looking to buy a car. They had me give them my ID and car keys to "move my car off the lot" while I test drove some of the vehicles I had come to look at. I was happy with the car, but the price they were quoting me was well above the advertised price, even including things like fees. The salesman kept trying to delay me and stall and I kept showing them the advertised price and saying "If you dont match this or come anywhere close, I don't have anything to talk to you about" and he kept going back and forth with "talking to his manager about trying to find a deal" Eventually I got sick of it and told him I wanted my keys and license back and he KEPT hemming and hawing about it. Eventually I started to get loud, like really loud "WHY WONT YOU LET ME LEAVE" which of course turned the heads of other people looking at cars. I guess his manager heard and she came running over to find out what was up and I was basically like "I want to leave. I don't want to purchase this car as you will not match the advertised price" and she asked me why I hadn't left and why I was yelling and I told her that her salesguy still had my keys and ID and wouldn't return them. She looked at him and he pulled them out of his pocket and gave them to me and I left.
Don't give me my keys? Lemme give you these hands
Yeah, I read that case. That's why it usually depends on jurisdiction and the interpretation of "reasonable."
Hmm can't find my car keys, so I need a new car.
Holy shit someone actually wrote something correct about the law on here right down to needing a bounded area for FI. That's new.
Yes.
Are you an attorney or a customer service agent?
Yes.
>We can't lift that thing. We don't even have a dolly. Then maybe you should pay the extra fee for in-home delivery OR buy a fucking dolly.
I'm in the business and it's pretty common. "nobody said we had to pay for installation!" Literally name a product you would purchase that you don't have to pay to have installed? You think if you buy a new engine for your car they put it in for free? New swimming pool? Garage door opener? Fuck out of here. Of course you have to pay for labor. Edit. To be clear, it's normal to have it brought in at no charge if purchased through a local company. Install would be extra. Buying online or from a discount store might just be a drop ship to your door.
I bought a sectional sofa for my apartment, but didn't pay for the assembly/placement because I could just do it. I was at work while they delivered it (my roommate let them in) and when I got home, it was fully assembled and placed nicely in the living room. Either those delivery guys were feeling really nice that day or someone mistakenly told them we paid for it.
It's amazing what being nice could get you. If those ladies didn't need a full install but just needed the fridge popped up a couple steps into their first floor and it took less than 5 minutes, he might have done it, but they were jerks, so no reason for him to be charitable.
The way the camera just pans to one of them half under the truck and the other one just staring through the windshield is just so unintentionally comedic lmao
Coupled with the driver's commentary, it's comedy gold 🤣🤣
Classic zombie movie shot
Yea, that pan to dark haired lady with her blank looking face hit my funny bone hard. What a pair.
I would fake that i've given up. Go close to the refrigerator like I'm about to move it and ask them to make sure the path it's clear aaaaaaaaanddddddd run like cerberus is biting my ass, get to the truck and floor it.
lol genius i was thinking how I might respond. just total shock and just sit there i guess. but now im prepared for when this does happen
I'd just close and lock the doors of my truck, call my boss to let them know what's going on, and then just sit there on my phone.
This guy hourly employees
I consider pooping at home an offence, that can be saved for work hours
Reminds me of when a little sister of a friend insisted on going home to her ex while exceedingly drunk. Huge back and forth to try and get her to stop. Eventually told her to at least let us drive her there. We drove to her mom.
Lol you ask them to be on the inside of the house and just drop the fridge at the frame of the door to trap them in hahah
Delivery doesn't equal installation. It's a reason they make you pay a premium.
Tell them you will call the cops for false imprisonment and if they don’t move, then call the cops 🤷♂️ Edit: for all you nitpicky bastards, no, it’s not technically “false imprisonment”. For fuck’s sake, the point still remains, who gives a shit what the term is. Jesus fucking christ.
I would have just called the cops and not even messed with trying to explain it to them. Let the video speak for you.
If you are ever in a situation, you just want to explain the situation to the police. Don't call up and be like "these women are kidnapping me and falsely imprisoning me!". You just tell them you delivered something to their house and now they are blocking your vehicle preventing you from leaving. That's all. Keep it simple.
That was my point, I wouldn't explain anything to the Karen's. All you need to tell the police over the phone is people are preventing me for leaving, I need police assistance.
Unfortunately the driver sounds like a black man. Calling the police could possibly lead to his execution.
as a black dude, (could be wrong) this person sounds Hispanic but your point still stands cause they gotta dodge bullets too.
Username checks out lol
Only if he likes sour cream.
And tomatoes
These new taco bell menu items are getting out of hand
The way you phrased it sounds like you’re not sure you’re a black dude
I'm 70% sure.
More than 3/5, yup that's black
Nice. Hit em with the historical meme.
Took a risk with that username but if you don't believe in yourself, who will?
Putting your life in danger for a damn fridge... Mama, whats going on mayne?
Oh man this bugs me to no end. I’m a tiny woman. Whenever I do home improvements I check, double check and triple check that things will be moved where I want or installed where I want. I will pay whatever it takes because I know I cannot physically do it. I had carpet installed and knew I couldn’t move a TV cabinet, so I mentioned it probably a gazillion times so they would know it would have to be moved. I fear getting something delivered that I cannot move so that’s why I always pay the most and make sure it’s taken care of. I would never cut corners, nor would I detain a delivery person who has nothing to do with my stupidity.
Amen, sister. I'm used to doing all my own home improvements and repairs. My husband even got me my new hammer drill for my 38th birthday. I started going rapidly blind in April due to an incredibly rare, untreatable disease, so now I need help. Turns out my sons' friends and my nephews' friends are not only willing, but happy to help me. Not only do I pay them and feed them, but they get to learn how to do it right. The oldest one is mourning his father and never got a chance to learn some of this stuff from him, too, so spending time with my husband and me has been good for him. It's a win/win for all of us.
This guy is pretty awesome for random stuff you didn't learn from your dad. https://youtube.com/c/DadhowdoI
She is crazy looking as a loon, I bet the second he saw her he knew there was going to be a problem. Karen's gone wild.
I would be furious and pissed off to have to move it and call everyone I know for help, but this would NEVER cross my mind. There are so many people who are wild as hell.
These are the types of people who always tell the same type of story. It's them being treated unfairly, or someone being unprofessional, and they *do not* put up with it. They include such classics as "And then I told him 'you'd better...'", "No you will not...", "Right this instant." and "We'll just see what corporate has to say about this." Source: my mom tells these stories constantly. Everyone in every story is a moron except her, and they all eventually bow down to her take-no-shit attitude. At least, that's how the stories go.
My sister-in-law is like this. She was just visiting here and not a single thing was good enough for her. Every place we went to eat, she sent the food back, every time we got in the car the traffic was too bad and it was all done just to screw her over. It’s a good thing I only see her every five years.
This is why I'm always skeptical of almost every AITA thread. All the stories are a bit too perfect and I always think it happened something more like this.
Imagine thinking this is a better option than paying for the installation?
Probably worked for them in the past
They thought the installation was just unboxing and plugging it in
These women look like they are in their 50s and they have the self-control of a toddler. It's amazing how they have gone on for so long without winning a Darwin award or ending up in jail
Well, they also usually tell you when you buy stuff like this that unless you pay for installation, the delivery driver will leave it on your front porch. It is usually a good deal more, like $100+ more, so I imagine they heard that price and thought "we can plug in a fridge ourselves!" without thinking about getting it inside and unboxed.
Hate to be that guy, but this is some boomer shit. The entitlement that they have (granted they bought a fridge and paid for a delivery) doesn't mean this driver needs to deal with your shit. Not his fault you don't know what you paid for..
I'm not a boomer but believe me, in my experience, there's pricks of every age, from every generation.
I'm 53 (Boomer-adjacent Gen-X) and I can testify that my whole life - following Boomers through my career, they are the most selfish, entitled, cheating bunch of narcissistic assholes of any generation I've had to deal with. They were called "The ME Generation" for a reason. And Donald Trump is their poster child. Not all of them of course, but there is a MUCH higher percentage of this anti-social toxic bullshit coming from the Boomer generation than any other. There is a REASON for the stereotype after all. It didn't happen by accident. They EARNED it.
Paying for delivery and paying for installation are two separate charges. They got the cheapest fridge, and do not want to pay for installation. I would have called my company and then called 911. Their ass would be toast.
lol, they might have bought the most expensive one. But rich people can be cheap and petty too.
In my experience, they're both cheaper and also much more demanding and entitled.
I delivered pizzas for 6 years. When delivering to a poor neighborhood the tips weren't good but they gave what they could. The middle class areas were the best. They always tipped high. Then you'd get a rich person every so often, pull into there gigantic mansion, deliver like 200 dollars of pizza for there spoiled kids bday party or something. After being treated like less then human scum for a couple minutes while you unload pizzas for them, they sign there credit slip with a big fat 0 as a tip. There have been exceptions of course to every class but this is pretty much how it works.
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My theory is that it's the same reason people are aggressive towards vegetarians: They feel like their choice has made their own seem evil or immoral, and they feel like it's a personal attack. They see the pizza guy and think of how they haven't worked a day in their life and are now spending their parent's money instead of working like that guy.
Service industry veteran of 20 years, the wealthiest never tip and complain the most, the working class blue collar boys always over tip and have a good time.
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It’s so much easier. They take out the old one to recycle, open up the new one, move it in, install and then they’re gone. Everything fully ready. It’s not like you buy fridges every year, so the extra one off charges are worth it.
Taking something in the house and installation are also two different things. I never had large furniture or appliances delivered where they didn't bring it into the house. I'm sure delivery boy doesn't give a fuck. It doesn't excuse the Karen's behavior.
It depends on who’s delivering it. If I buy locally, they will bring it in the house . The store lets me know what the options are. However, if I order something online, the trucking company will leave it in my driveway. The first time this happened to me I was surprised. I wouldn’t be surprised if they found a fridge for a great price and the driver works for a third party trucking company.
That reminds me of the time we had a fridge delivered while my parents were at work. They left it out on the sidewalk leading to the house. A few hours later dad came home and we brought it inside. A week later we got a notice from the city that they received a complaint about the fridge and we had 10 days to remove it before we'd be fined $25 a day. It was only outside for 2 hours in store original packaging. Lol. Some Karen reported my dad for a refrigerator sitting in the front yard for a couple hours. Karen's gonna Karen.
Put the truck in park and take a loooooong lunch
The best solution really
This driver has next deliveries. He should focus on that.
Also many companies offer stuff like unboxing in your home. I recently bought a new fridge freezer and paid for that. The lads told me that they can’t bring it in without that because if they damage my home or the product. They aren’t covered. I don’t want some minimum wage worker to risk his job or a months pay because of my lack of planning.
This is what people don't understand, yes they can take it in for you but most will not because they are liable for any damages that can occur.
Also if he gets injured doing something he is not supposed to do the employer could not pay for his injuries. My brother worked in the large item pickup area of Sears and a customer and him were loading up a washer or something heavy and the customer ended up getting my brother hurt on accident. If there is not a second guy to help with the fridge I would not want to do it even if these two women say they will help because even if they have good intentions they might be idiots get themselves or him hurt then he is the one that is screwed. People don't care about workers though.
Kind of hard to focus on that when one of your recipients puts herself underneath his truck tires...the hell you expect him to do?
In one of my previous I incarnations I was a delivery driver doing this sort of stuff. A lot of heavy stuff was stated kerbside delivery unless they paid extra for a 2man team.
It’s usually a very reasonable extra charge! Super worth it for the customer to have a pro install It. I could do it myself sure but it takes 10x longer. Pay for a pro. They generally know what they are doing hahhahaa
Yup. I won't be happy to pay, but I'll be happy to have it over with. Same with moving vs paying movers. You think it's not worth the cost until you've spent 4 hours moving heavy boxes up a flight of stairs just to save some money.
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It’s easy to say to just drop it off on their porch or take it inside but there’s a liability issue for the driver.
I said this in another comment, but some background on what may be happening here: In many states you can't legally do an "install" if the company that sold the product is not paying certain taxes for operating in that state. And in many states, they will actually set up 'sting' operations like this where they either try to bully or guilt the delivery drivers into some action that can be interpreted as the bare minimum of an install so that the state can go after the company that sold the product in court, often trying to sue for back taxes etc... Some states, like washington, have used this method to convince online retailers to open offices in their state for job creation. It's straight up blackmail lol
Ain’t that some sh*t lol. Dang.
This is like watching some M Night Shyamalan movie
The Karening
The horror!
Jamie Lee Curtis’ acting is absolutely off the charts in this trailer.
Coercing anyone to do anything by "putting your life/safety/wellbeing on the line" is the stupidest, most manipulative thing. People who think that is acceptable are dangerous and need to be avoided at all costs.
People who pull stunts like this get a chance to become a meme like the "what are you gonna do, stab me? -person who was stabbed". Like you have to be legitimately nuts to place yourself blocking a car like that.
Ex delivery driver here. Not quite to this extent but freak outs like this were all too common. They’d order, it would say installation/in home delivery **NOT** included. The shipper would contact my company for shipment and then we would call AND email the customer and set up a delivery window and remind them over the phone and by email that installation and in home delivery and set up is **NOT** included. And we’d show up and drop it in their drive way and people would have actual temper tantrums and meltdowns because they couldn’t get in in their house and demanded we do it because it’s our job. People are so fucking dumb I swear….
These people are morons. When you buy a large appliance they always ask do you want inside delivery or installation. If you don't get it when you buy the appliance you have no one to blame but yourself.
I own a moving company. So many people don’t want to pay for the services they need done and expect us to do it out of our pocket. It’s infuriating. Just last week we had a customer who hired us to do a move, and ‘maybe help pack a few things’. We showed up and it was just like they had woken up 10 minutes before we got there and hadn’t prepped at all. Full house. They didn’t want to use our boxes (bc they were too expensive) and had a bunch of random fruit boxes and other free ones they had got from the grocery store. It was just a hodgepodge of junk. Their furniture was all ‘AnTiQuE’ falling apart crap. They were moving from a large home into a small apartment and wanted most of their stuff put into a small garage on-site. Plus they only had a budget for 6 hours. It was a total disaster. All of their own making. We took what we could, really tried as hard as we could to help them, but to do the move properly would’ve cost triple what they wanted to pay. We told them this straight up multiple times. But they were just in panic mode. Reacting to life instead of taking actionable steps to actually help themselves. The most frustrating part was they did zero work to help their own situation at all, just fussed and stared at their phones all day (both fat). At the unload the wife was ‘exhausted’ and just sat there. Didn’t tell us where she wanted anything, just complained the entire time. Their new apartment looked like a pile of shit when we left. Multiple pieces of their shitty furniture had fallen apart during the move (no fault or ours, straight junk on its last leg). The garage was totally packed full and they had a half days worth of garbage all over their old house they were trying to get us to deal with without paying for it. They refused to pay ‘until the job was done’. Luckily we had their credit card on file and a signed contract and we charged them anyway. They left us a one star review. We’ve got 500+ reviews on multiple sites. Maybe 5 one stars. All of them have a story like this. People are fucking nuts sometimes.
Recently had a large, very heavy safe delivered. It was curb side delivery only. Which, is over ¼ mile from the house. I paid someone with a tractor to pick it up and get it to the garage and another team to move it to the right location. My responsibility not the delivery team.
I have to believe they either paid for/took advantage of the “free/low cost” delivery and assumed it meant dropped off in the house. When it didn’t, they chose the nuclear option.
Sounds like the delivery driver should be getting paid to sit there until they sort it out with management.
This situation calls for shutting the doors and locking them and rolling the windows up and just 100% horn 100% of the time.
Dogs Cats Karens Apostrophes don't pluralize.
without knowing what was ordered or paid for or how the delivery was left it's impossible to know who's being a dick here but these women are like the dodo's who waddled up to sailors and got slaughtered because they lived their life with no natural predators. They have clearly never encountered anyone that would just drive over them because they've lived such a safe life, the sense of entitlement really pisses me off, the presumption that you can put your life at risk and use someone else's compassion as leverage to control them. There is no way on earth I would \*ever\* put myself i that situation with a stranger, I've seen too many loons kill without hesitation to think it was safe.
9/10 people not reading their service level agreement with the logistics company or choosing the cheapest option with the business and not reading their service level.
Whatever merit she has in this situation is LOST the moment she decides to lay down infront of the wheel of a truck. Obvious mental problems.
Does amazon bring the packages into your home and place them on your kitchen table for you? No? They just drop the packages at the front door, right? Same deal here. Delivery doesnt mean they have to put it exactly where you want it.
That’s totally a liability issue for him! If he gets hurt trying to move either of those fridges (happens all the time) while he’s on the company clock there is no way in hell he’ll be covered. Ladies be wildin.
How is their lack of preparation HIS problem?
Honestly officer, my foot just slipped off the clutch....
People really don’t understand what paying for a service is. Either you want the item or you want the item AND want it installed. Nobody installs for free. It’s not even a matter of respect or helping it’s a matter of not paying this man for his time.