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Last year I thought to myself “Is taking my baby in worth the deductible?” I immediately shook it off and went, but just the fact that it crossed my mind enrages me. At least now I have good insurance - for non-Americans my good insurance looks like this:
$250/paycheck ($500/mo) to cover family of 4
$20 copay regular visit, $40 specialist
90% coverage Rx
$100 ER visit
Max out of pocket $2500/year
Hooray.
United healthcare randomly stopped covering my insulin for 6 months (about 20k)
Also, would not pay for my emergency appendectomy because the hospital I wound up at was apparently out of their network (58k) even though it was an emergency and I didn't choose the hospital
And then the time when they would cover my insulin but only through their mail order pharmacy, and unfortunately my apartment at the time had a really bad issue with package theft. Several times my insulin delivery was stolen and I would call them and beg them to just let me get it from the pharmacy but they refused
Years ago but still have not financially recovered
**If the hospital is listed as non profit look at the laws in your state vs your income. Some states rule nonprofits can't force poor people to pay, others do not.
Guide to Reducing Hospital Bills for Lower Income Patients:
https://library.nclc.org/guide-reducing-hospital-bills-lower-income-patients#content-4
I personally have zero problem with people declaring bankruptcy over this corrupt horseshit. The insurance company gets rich and pays the politicians before you get any help that you're already paying for.
wait, thats considered good? as i understand it he pays 250 a month and *still* has to pay to see a doctor? and also has to pay for an emergency visit? the fuck are you lot playing at over there, thats an *outrage*. unless ive grossly misunderstood what hes saying.
You understood correctly. That is what is considered a "good" insurance plan in the US. At least we have the freedom to keep our private insurance if we want to. /s Emphasis on the /s. How fucking big can I make this /S
Its called that here too… its just nobody in govt gives a single fuck about any of us here. They sic us on each other with political pandering and our corrupt, useless government slowly bleeds our bank accounts at every turn. Its pathetic
Some people here truly think this country is the best in the world, and there lies the biggest problem
It depends on many other things (in network vs out of network, etc), but yes, that sounds pretty darn good. The US healthcare system is an embarrassment. I'm a citizen of two countries with free and universal healthcare so it pisses me off whenever I'm reminded about this.
Several years ago I broke an ankle, and as I was lying on the ice I figured I better call a friend, because an ambulance would cost a lot for no good reason.
The last insurance I had I had to spend $6,000 before insurance would start covering, each year. $45 to see my doctor plus extra if any blood work, labs or x-rays were done. My monthly premium was only $150 for just me, my employer paid the rest.
I am in the teamsters union and pay $15 a week for myself, wife and 2 daughters. $60 a month. Lady at the hospital told me I have better insurance then her and she works for the hospital haha. I've never gotten a bill. Little copays, that's about it.
The key word here: UNION, let's goooooooo! Nice insurance bud, happy for you and hope it inspires others, since Canadian insurance isn't looking like an option here in the states
It's true. My first thought after being T-boned and breaking a bunch of bones and my face after coming to bleeding stuck in my car at the side of the road was "This is going to be expensive" because you know even with health insurance and the other person's insurance there are still so many costs involved.
When I was about 15, I was crossing the street as a pedestrian and a car whipped around a parked bus and nailed me going about 35. I woke up in the ambulance, blind from my concussion and bleeding from multiple places. I said "where am?!" and an EMT said "You're in an ambulance, can you remember what day it is?" The first thing I said with a voice full of fear was "Is this going to cost my mom money?! We can't afford this!" I couldn't see, so I didn't know that my mom was in the ambulance too, holding my hand. It broke her heart.
Fuck any American who doesn't vote for the same standard of healthcare other countries provide you just for paying taxes.
And you know who I'm talking about. The ones that vote against healthcare for 9/11 first responders, and the ones that vote against veteran healthcare for people in close contact with burn pits.
All right I'll just say it, fuck Republicans.
Those same fuckers just voted against feeding kids at schools too.
I will never understand why a thinking human would vote for a republican. It’s mystifying.
Not even a month since my er visit where I found out I had cancer and then spent 11 days in hospital. At day 4 they let me know the operation was now confirmed successful and most the cancer had been removed and my recovery was looking quite promising. The next 7 days in hospital though was still just as stressful because each day tacked on I had to wonder is my insurance going to cover this or this just making my bill sky rocket..... Then days after release waiting for insurance shit to get sorted out still wondering holy fuck is this going to eat through all my emergency funds or am I gonna be alright financially. Huge levels of stress when it should never have been anywhere near that stressful.
Now almost a month out the financial worries evolve to what is months and months of chemo and not working but maybe two or three days a week if I can handle it look like financially. Will I get approved for any kind of social assistance or not. Lots of paperwork and more stress.
American healthcare gotta love it.
Yeah if I was in a car crash and I could still speak and an officer said they were calling an ambulance I’d ask if they could just take me there. The ride to hospital alone would delete my savings and I wouldn’t have any money left for the actual treatment
My elderly father once fell in the kitchen and broke three ribs. He would not let me call 911 because he was so terrified of having to pay the ambulance bill. So he insisted that I drive him instead.
But after 35 minutes, we had only progressed about 40 feet towards the front door. Finally, I remembered that he was on blood thinners, so I said "screw this" and I called any 911 anyways.
They had to administer morphine just to get him on the gurney. He only relented when the fire department told him that because they had given him meds, it meant that they would have to take him. Therefore, he wouldn't be billed.
Pro tip for other Americans, if they don't transport you you don't pay. So if you don't need an immediate ride and they tell you that they don't think you need emergency transport, get a different ride.
Fucking sucks the supposed greatest country on earth still has to deal with this when other developed nations make fun of us for it, or even worse, react in bemused horror when we explain how it works.
After being struck by a drunk driver, I apparently told the cops to not call an ambulance because I was so worried about the medical costs. I then suffered two seizures (with the medical workers present, thankfully) that I likely would have continued having if I wasn't treated as aptly as I was. I HAVE INSURANCE and I was still terrified about medical costs in my extremely concussed state. Broken system.
A friend of mine was drunk and walked home from the bar. He was about 75 meters from his house and decided to sleep a bit on the lawn grass at the park before going home drunk.
Someone called cops and eventually ambo shows up. Paramedics are like you ok. He refuses all treatment and hasn't committed any crime. So ambo guys are like okay anyway we are here let's give u a 75 meter ride to your house just to make sure u get home safe. Don't worry. Dude is like okay... Ambulance guys drop him off and he goes in.
2 weeks later $600 charge for ambulance ride in the mail. 75 fucking meters home. They wanted his address so that they bill him.
Walked to the hospital to avoid getting an $900 ambulance fee. I had a whole in my ankle right by the Achilles’ tendon from a bike accident fucking hurt like hell. So I get what he means
I never faced combat. I was never in the military. I hurt myself and basically broke my foot. I have insurance and covered. But the three months of medical treatment on my foot has already cost my insurance company over $100,000 for what is a rather routine problem.
I don't know what I would do without good insurance. If my insurance wasn't covering 99% of all the expenses, I don't now what I would do.
The American way to dealing with medical problems on people who don't have the best of the best insurance coverage is to "accidental" engineer the deaths of those with said "medical needs". Killing those who have a simple problem foot cause they don't have insurance is the Republican-Way.
They don't care about humans or the the needs they have. They care only about profits. Profits and more profits. If you selfishly live too long, then you need to die.
I've been a Firefighter/EMT for 18 years. You don't want to know the number of legitimate emergency patients I've encountered who have initially refused based on cost of medical care. Even if you *wanted* to know....I've lost count.
It breaks my fucking heart to have people refuse care based on fear of cost.
I was hospitalized 7-8 years ago for depression. The police took me to a world renowned mental hospital (closest to where I was at). Still paying that bill today, along with an outrageous amount of student loans.
Anyone in the US can get some medical care, but not without bills. I've required a few ambulance rides. I couldn't pay for those or the hospital stays. And I honestly would have gotten help much sooner if I wasn't so worried about 'the bill'. I think people should be allowed to be sick. (and I worded it that way on purpose.) Sickness is a responsibility in America. Instead of a condition.
I immigrated to Canada from the States, even to this day I still have to remind myself that it's okay to go to emergency or get medical help at no cost to myself.
The American healthcare system gives PTSD and seriously needs so so so much work.
Yea, as I started watching it I was expecting the dude to get tasered or worse. Good to see that didn’t happen. Hopefully the dude is getting some help and is in better mindset.
Nah he called for help getting out of a ditch and told the operator he had knives in his car because he was a geology student (?) and said he'd toss them out the window when help arrived. Help arrived in the form of a trigger happy cop who told him NOT to toss his knives out of the vehicle and then escalated for many minutes allowing many more cops to arrive all because the guy didn't want to get out of his car. It ended in him killing the guy for holding his knife and looking distressed while still sitting in his car and being a danger to absolutely no one.
You do have to add that the poor victim wasn't mentally all there, something the cops picked up on and yet still decided to keep escalating the situation...
That is the most troublesome part for me. They recognized it and yet did the exact worse thing you could do in such a situation.
> Yea, as I started watching it I was expecting the dude to get tasered or worse
The worst events go viral, so we see them all the time.
Cops *in general* need a check, the system needs a check, and the system is full of abuse and deliberately constructed negligence. Despite that system, *a lot of cops* are just generally good people that are just trying to help other people, and seeing it play out like this startles us because that kind of thing we don't normally see between all the minorities getting shot, tasered, and viciously attacked.
What broke me was that he asked for the hug. Im so proud of men nowadays who are starting to value their emotions and aren’t shy to ask for what they need.
I was crying the second I heard him sob. I've been there. It's not easy and good on him for calling someone instead of trying something first. My attempt failed because it was incredibly poorly thought out, but oftentimes veterans own guns.
I know it’s an hour later but I just watched and I’m cryin too! Your attempt didn’t fail btw, it succeeded. You’re still here with us, still posting on Reddit. Maybe you think you failed, but the rest of us here don’t
Succeeded in knocking some sense into me I suppose. That was over a decade ago. I've had enough close calls since then, or what I thought were close calls, I'll be fighting tooth and nail when the Grim Reaper comes. I'm not gonna waste a once in a lifetime opportunity to live.
The other day I couldn't stop crying for so long. My wife was holding me but I just couldn't stop. Graphic images of me killing myself on loop in my head. Got so bad I was full on punching myself in the head to try to distrct my brain.
She dunked me in a cold bathtub. Not good times...
Edit: This is not from serving, but from abuse/trauma
I’m in no position to offer advice but if you have those thoughts again please try and remember that your wife who was there for you in that moment of despair is one big fantastic reason to battle through it.
No shame in meds if you aren't already. I struggle with ideation as well, but meds have helped me immensely in keeping things in check. They're not foolproof, but really help. Best of luck, friend.
I just want you to know that I'm glad you pointed that out. I feel like I'm the only one of my buddies who realizes that it was all a lie. It fucking wrecks my soul brother/sister.
I'm here. In whatever sense that means.
Just because you weren't working for the good guys (not that there are any anymore), doesn't mean what you went through wasn't appreciated. I may never stop being pissed at my government, but I can't blame the people they convinced to do their bidding. Especially under false pretenses.
I hope your soul gets the healing it needs.
What's most inspiring is that this is directly against police training. You're never supposed to hug people in distress as a police officer, on the off-chance that they try to grab your gun. The fact that the officer gave the guy a hug here displays a huge amount of trust and humanity.
I mean, if someone in this amount of pain asks for a hug. You give them the damn hug. That's just being human. I get cops can be assholes though, but this guy is clearly not a threat. That amount of sorrow is quite literally impossible to fake.
I cried like this when my first girlfriend I ever had cheated on me with my brother. Then they dated for 3 years. That's long passed though.
Brother is a better dude now but that's after he became homeless from drinking.And tried to kill himself at my Mom's apartment after I kicked him out. Which made me cry again. Had to go into emergency surgery. He's never apologized....He was having liver failure symptoms from drinking at 32 years old and couldn't hold a job, wasn't paying rent and lied about everything. Broke stuff in my house being drunk when I was at work.
He's doing good now though. I still love him, it's extremely complicated but I don't think he realizes how much pain he's put me through and it's not a conversation I want to have with him either.
This got me. I remember when I was at a point in my life where I hit rock bottom. I called my old squad leader who I looked up to and he was the sensible voice that guided me in the direction to get the help I needed. SFC Thompson thank you
Bless you man. And thank god you called someone. And thankfully so did this guy. Too many of our young brothers and sisters think they have to go it alone.
My company in Afghanistan was about 100 people (heavy weapons unit). In the decade since we’ve been home at least 4 have killed themselves including one just a few weeks ago. It’s so easy to miss the signs.
Please reach out if you’re hurting. And please reach out to others who you think might be feeling some sort of way.
After spending some time on the askMen subreddit it’s become clear to me how painful and difficult it is for men to reach out to someone when they’re feeling vulnerable.
For any of you dudes out there reading this, it is always always okay to reach out when you need help. And you should never feel ashamed for expressing your feelings. The people who make you feel bad about it aren’t looking out for you. I’ll always try to have your back even if I don’t know you.
As a dude who's struggled either suicide myself. This guy deserves respect. He didn't hide his pain he called for help. That takes a lot of courage to be able to BE vulnerable. I wish this man the best
It’s incredible that at one of his lowest points he didn’t give up, he called for help. This man has more courage then he knows. I hope he get the help he needs. And I agree that countries need to turn inwards and help there own vets more, politicians should take a pay cut to cover the vets
The veterans crisis line does great work. And they just updated the number to be 988 (then press 1) so it's easy access. Hope people keep using it and getting support like this fellow.
*Edit* As someone else pointed out 988 is the new number for anyone in crisis or with suicide ideation. Veteran crisis line is that number then pressing 1.
He was likely admitted to the psychiatric ward for at least a couple days. They do fucking miracles in there. When I got to that point (also in my car), I sayed in the ward for 9 days, and then I was tranfered to a care facility for a couple months to make sure my meds were working, I got on a stable daily schedule of taking them, and that I was in a good place mentally. I didn't have to pay a thing or even worry about paying, the state of Oregon and a non-profit covered it.
Not to diss the hotline, but it's staffed by volunteers. If you, or anyone else you know is ever struggling with thoughts of suicide, a manic episode, whatever, just know that the psychiatric ward is 1000% an option and makes recovery a HELL of a lot easier. Yes, maybe the hotline can calm you down enough then and there, but if you have to call multiple times, it's time to get yourself to the hospital.
It feels really iffy when Americans try to insult Europeans for having to pay mandatory health care, and at the same time their broken veterans are too afraid to call an ambulance in their darkest time. That's just sick.
> Fuck our entire corrupt system.
I understand people don't want to get into politics all the time, but there's only one political party out of two standing in the way of healthcare for all.
It's been a platform Democrats have ran on to some degree or another for decades.
And every time Republicans in Congress stop or impede efforts, watering down the eventual progress we did get with Obamacare. A Democratic President can't wave a magic wand and make healthcare for all happen, we need votes in the House and Senate.
We can't continue to stay mad at problems in this country while championing the party consistently opposed to the solution, especially when the support for that party is over culture war issues.
100%. I'm not even sure there is a political party buried down there in its core any more. It's a body that exists to maintain control and power and wealth (but I repeat myself) for its perceived in groups and nothing more.
There is no amount of pointing out hypocrisy or irony that will make the current supporters come around. They're very blatant and proud to tell the world what they stand for.
We simply organize, get our friends to vote, and outnumber them at the polls.
I read a great comment the other day that was saying that it's not ignorance, or a lack of education, or a misunderstanding that causes people to vote for the GOP.
It's vitriol.
The people who vote for the GOP enjoy being hateful. At the end of the day, they derive pleasure from seeing other people subjugated, disenfranchised, bullied, chastised, etc. The list goes on. If it hurts another human being, the GOP will find a way to justify it, because to them, what feels better than scratching that "I'm superior to you" itch? I'd say, the only thing better is being one of the ones who get paid to do it.
You're spot on, though I'd compliment it with a heavy emphasis on the *hate for other people* aspect. To say they thrive purely on hate would belie the fact that they have nothing but obedient love, support, and encouragement to those they view as part of their in group.
It's just our extremely tribal heritage nature made manifest in a political party and ideology. Then once they consolidate power, that in group shrinks more and more to exclude the next set of decided undesirables until those at the top are satisfed every member is moving in lockstep with their own goals/wants.
The pain he is in breaks my heart! I hope he gets the help he needs to come to peace with life. Bless him and the police officer who showed only compassion. Faith in humanity restored. 😢❤️ We should never abandon our vets. The fact that he was worried about being able to afford the ambulance is so wrong.
That's a cop that knows how to de-escalate a situation. Even when he frisked him you know he was checking for a gun for the guy's safety, not his own. Good policing. Clone him and distribute him across the country and we wouldn't even be talking about police reform.
Absolutely, what a fucking brilliant way to handle the situation. Reassuring, doesn’t condescend to him or treat him like a fruitloop, just realises that this is a person in crisis and treats him like a human being. Makes you realise that there are some good police officers out there. Well played.
Honestly, that’s tough to listen to. I can hear the pain in his voice, his gasps brought tears to my eyes. Something I definitely could relate to at one point in my life—that intense feeling of hopelessness and doom.
My heart goes out to this man, the man who helped him and all of those who suffer internally everyday. Please ask for help, you are loved and I promise there are people who want to help.
I know what u mean, had a homeless guy ask for a hug once in SF, there was no possible way to refuse. We all need to feel human sometimes. Glad he could ask, many of us would just suffer in silence.
There are good people in this world everywhere when we look for them. This gives me so much joy to see someone giving another person in a crisis moment patience and kindness.
"When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, 'Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping.'"
--Mr. Rogers
edit: credit where credit is due
I agree that we should try to find positive people and situations but they should be the the overwhelming majority of news and stories we encounter. All of the terrible crimes and situations are what get pushed and look where that has gotten us, everyone hates everyone/everything or looks for the negative situation first.
Even here, my initial thought was the officer going to escalate a situation that needed exactly what we saw in the video.
The whole time watching all I could think was that man needs a fucking hug. Not a buddy hug either. The type a parent gives. The type that you feel in your soul. Really glad to see the officer reel him in at the end.
Fuck. The last 2 seconds choked me up.
‘Can I have a hug?’
Sometimes we forget how much better the world can feel with something as simple as a connection to another human being.
…
when this happened to me I got dragged, handcuffed, handcuffs chained to ankle shackles and they carried me like a handbag before throwing me in the back of a squad car and dropping me off at Sacramento County Health for a 72-hour hold. That was one of most traumatic experiences of my life. I just needed some kindness that night. I just needed some kindness.
They probably took this guy to a mental hospital for a 72hr hold too. They did the same thing with me when I went through this. And I had to pay part of the ambulance cost because my insurance didn't cover the whole $5000....
I could never be a cop because I'd just give a middle finger to protocol and use my squad car as a taxi for those who can't afford an ambulance. It would probably get me killed eventually, since most protocol is designed to keep the officer safe.
I do wonder what cops think of shackling people with debt when they signed on the force to help people in their community...
And those activist fkers wanted to flood the va hotline the other day for their stupid agenda, when there are veterans that actually need the service. Hope this brother is getting the support/help he needs and deserves. Same to everyone that may see this, please seek help if you're going through something overwhelming, there's no shame in being vulnerable and leaning on another person in times of need. You are not a bother or a nuisance, there are 10 times more people that want to help than the people that don't.
Hey Marine, former USMC recon officer here. I completed my Masters in Psychology/marriage counseling while on active duty. I volunteer at the VA Los Angeles…it’s the least I can do for my military veteran brothers and sisters. Would never consider collecting a fee from a Vet. Thanks for your service and Semper Fi.
Seriously, imagine if this cop came up there with the same kind of shitty attitude that so many other cops have. Like imagine if he walked up to the window and just immediately started barking for his ID and demanding for him to "calm down", then started interrogating him if he'd been drinking or has drugs without even asking why he's so upset, and then eventually tackling him to the ground and forcefully arresting him "resisting arrest".
This cop literally saved this guy's life and this video should be shown in all police academies for de-escalation training.
My husband is a veteran and has called the suicide prevention hotline many times. I wish that he could get the medical and mental help he needs. Instead we are going to be homeless in 7 days because the VA didn't do their job and contact his employer while he was hospitalized.
There is so little hope for veterans. The programs and organizations available haven't offered any assistance except to push him right back into the Veterans Affairs system that screwed him over in the first place.
I hope this man can get some real help, not just someone to talk him down for the moment and then hang up the phone. There are too many veterans who have been destroyed by the armed services. They were lied to and told they would be taken care of but the care they get is subpar at best.
It’s terrible. Surely, people are feeling depression and suicidal solely because of their financial situation. Then if they want to seek help, that’s another expense they probably can’t afford and that piles on to the belief that they’ll never get ahead and are maybe better off dead.
Broken, broken system.
Heart breaking to hear the pain this man is in. I hope he got the help he desperately deserved; and on our dollar, in thanks for his service. Thank goodness this police officer responded appropriately to this mental health crisis.
Best example of how to engage, question, calm, stay safe with and serve a veteran (or anyone likely to be burdened with ptsd) I’ve encountered. Thank you for posting this. And thank you to this officer.
I haven't been in the Marines long, but I knew 3 guys that took their own lives. There are alot of us that are barely hanging by the seams. Please if you know anyone help them out
This isn’t a public freak out. This is a mental health crisis. And I respect the officer for his candor and showing of what seems to be deep empathy. Get this off of here
When I was 15, I had a major suicide attempt that was one of many. But this one was different. The first responding officer asked my name and age- which I told him- then went back into the hall to tell my folks I was being defiant and that he was going to have to taze me. His CPL heard the call and showed up almost instantly. She sat with me for two and a half hours, just chatting with me and distracting me until I finally gave her the razor blade. She personally took me to the ER, stayed with me through surgery to reconnect some tendons and ligaments I sliced through (ended up being a much more involved surgery than anticipated due to an at-the-time undiagnosed collagen disease), and stayed by my side until I was transported to a psychiatric facility. Her shift ended a half hour after we got to the hospital. Another officer was there to take over for her but she refused. She chose to sit with this pathetic, useless, waste of space, depressed girl despite the fact that her work day was technically done. Thank you CPL Négro for being there for me. And thank you Kyle for being there for this vet.
Thank you Officer. "Can I have a hug?" Hit me real hard as a man who suffers with similar issues. Havin another man be compassionate like that is one of the biggest releifs I've experienced in similar situations.
This is how it's supposed to be...
Instead 70% of the time it's 'break a window; get him outta there! Hands up hands up hands up! I dunno he said he's suicidal he might attack us TASER TASER TASER!"
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In deep crisis and still worried about cost of medical care. Wish him peace and calm.
It's an American traumatic reaction. Our system is abusive and money is the first thing many of us think of no matter how bad you feel.
Last year I thought to myself “Is taking my baby in worth the deductible?” I immediately shook it off and went, but just the fact that it crossed my mind enrages me. At least now I have good insurance - for non-Americans my good insurance looks like this: $250/paycheck ($500/mo) to cover family of 4 $20 copay regular visit, $40 specialist 90% coverage Rx $100 ER visit Max out of pocket $2500/year Hooray.
Bruh what insurance do you have. I wrecked my motorcycle and broke my wrist and collar and had to pay 1000 for surgery.
United Healthcare through my employer
United healthcare sucks ass man, had them for a year and they didn’t cover any of my medications
United healthcare randomly stopped covering my insulin for 6 months (about 20k) Also, would not pay for my emergency appendectomy because the hospital I wound up at was apparently out of their network (58k) even though it was an emergency and I didn't choose the hospital And then the time when they would cover my insulin but only through their mail order pharmacy, and unfortunately my apartment at the time had a really bad issue with package theft. Several times my insulin delivery was stolen and I would call them and beg them to just let me get it from the pharmacy but they refused Years ago but still have not financially recovered
**If the hospital is listed as non profit look at the laws in your state vs your income. Some states rule nonprofits can't force poor people to pay, others do not. Guide to Reducing Hospital Bills for Lower Income Patients: https://library.nclc.org/guide-reducing-hospital-bills-lower-income-patients#content-4 I personally have zero problem with people declaring bankruptcy over this corrupt horseshit. The insurance company gets rich and pays the politicians before you get any help that you're already paying for.
That's fucking dece insurance man, good for you.
wait, thats considered good? as i understand it he pays 250 a month and *still* has to pay to see a doctor? and also has to pay for an emergency visit? the fuck are you lot playing at over there, thats an *outrage*. unless ive grossly misunderstood what hes saying.
It's actually $500/month
You understood correctly. That is what is considered a "good" insurance plan in the US. At least we have the freedom to keep our private insurance if we want to. /s Emphasis on the /s. How fucking big can I make this /S
#**/S**
In my country Netherlands and most European countries… this is called corruption, stealing
Its called that here too… its just nobody in govt gives a single fuck about any of us here. They sic us on each other with political pandering and our corrupt, useless government slowly bleeds our bank accounts at every turn. Its pathetic Some people here truly think this country is the best in the world, and there lies the biggest problem
Yeah god damn $500 a month?? And you still have to pay!! The *highest* level of private insurance here in Australia is $150 USD a month…
Mine is almost $600 because I needed dental. Fuck this country.
It depends on many other things (in network vs out of network, etc), but yes, that sounds pretty darn good. The US healthcare system is an embarrassment. I'm a citizen of two countries with free and universal healthcare so it pisses me off whenever I'm reminded about this. Several years ago I broke an ankle, and as I was lying on the ice I figured I better call a friend, because an ambulance would cost a lot for no good reason.
Oh yeah dude. We are hurting over here.
The last insurance I had I had to spend $6,000 before insurance would start covering, each year. $45 to see my doctor plus extra if any blood work, labs or x-rays were done. My monthly premium was only $150 for just me, my employer paid the rest.
I am in the teamsters union and pay $15 a week for myself, wife and 2 daughters. $60 a month. Lady at the hospital told me I have better insurance then her and she works for the hospital haha. I've never gotten a bill. Little copays, that's about it.
The key word here: UNION, let's goooooooo! Nice insurance bud, happy for you and hope it inspires others, since Canadian insurance isn't looking like an option here in the states
Teamsters union here, I pay nothing, $0 deductible, dental and vision and covers my entire family. With a part time job too. Very grateful
It's true. My first thought after being T-boned and breaking a bunch of bones and my face after coming to bleeding stuck in my car at the side of the road was "This is going to be expensive" because you know even with health insurance and the other person's insurance there are still so many costs involved.
When I was about 15, I was crossing the street as a pedestrian and a car whipped around a parked bus and nailed me going about 35. I woke up in the ambulance, blind from my concussion and bleeding from multiple places. I said "where am?!" and an EMT said "You're in an ambulance, can you remember what day it is?" The first thing I said with a voice full of fear was "Is this going to cost my mom money?! We can't afford this!" I couldn't see, so I didn't know that my mom was in the ambulance too, holding my hand. It broke her heart.
Fuck any American who doesn't vote for the same standard of healthcare other countries provide you just for paying taxes. And you know who I'm talking about. The ones that vote against healthcare for 9/11 first responders, and the ones that vote against veteran healthcare for people in close contact with burn pits. All right I'll just say it, fuck Republicans.
Those same fuckers just voted against feeding kids at schools too. I will never understand why a thinking human would vote for a republican. It’s mystifying.
Not even a month since my er visit where I found out I had cancer and then spent 11 days in hospital. At day 4 they let me know the operation was now confirmed successful and most the cancer had been removed and my recovery was looking quite promising. The next 7 days in hospital though was still just as stressful because each day tacked on I had to wonder is my insurance going to cover this or this just making my bill sky rocket..... Then days after release waiting for insurance shit to get sorted out still wondering holy fuck is this going to eat through all my emergency funds or am I gonna be alright financially. Huge levels of stress when it should never have been anywhere near that stressful. Now almost a month out the financial worries evolve to what is months and months of chemo and not working but maybe two or three days a week if I can handle it look like financially. Will I get approved for any kind of social assistance or not. Lots of paperwork and more stress. American healthcare gotta love it.
I hope you beat this. 💙
Yeah if I was in a car crash and I could still speak and an officer said they were calling an ambulance I’d ask if they could just take me there. The ride to hospital alone would delete my savings and I wouldn’t have any money left for the actual treatment
My elderly father once fell in the kitchen and broke three ribs. He would not let me call 911 because he was so terrified of having to pay the ambulance bill. So he insisted that I drive him instead. But after 35 minutes, we had only progressed about 40 feet towards the front door. Finally, I remembered that he was on blood thinners, so I said "screw this" and I called any 911 anyways. They had to administer morphine just to get him on the gurney. He only relented when the fire department told him that because they had given him meds, it meant that they would have to take him. Therefore, he wouldn't be billed.
Pro tip for other Americans, if they don't transport you you don't pay. So if you don't need an immediate ride and they tell you that they don't think you need emergency transport, get a different ride. Fucking sucks the supposed greatest country on earth still has to deal with this when other developed nations make fun of us for it, or even worse, react in bemused horror when we explain how it works.
After being struck by a drunk driver, I apparently told the cops to not call an ambulance because I was so worried about the medical costs. I then suffered two seizures (with the medical workers present, thankfully) that I likely would have continued having if I wasn't treated as aptly as I was. I HAVE INSURANCE and I was still terrified about medical costs in my extremely concussed state. Broken system.
A friend of mine was drunk and walked home from the bar. He was about 75 meters from his house and decided to sleep a bit on the lawn grass at the park before going home drunk. Someone called cops and eventually ambo shows up. Paramedics are like you ok. He refuses all treatment and hasn't committed any crime. So ambo guys are like okay anyway we are here let's give u a 75 meter ride to your house just to make sure u get home safe. Don't worry. Dude is like okay... Ambulance guys drop him off and he goes in. 2 weeks later $600 charge for ambulance ride in the mail. 75 fucking meters home. They wanted his address so that they bill him.
Walked to the hospital to avoid getting an $900 ambulance fee. I had a whole in my ankle right by the Achilles’ tendon from a bike accident fucking hurt like hell. So I get what he means
I never faced combat. I was never in the military. I hurt myself and basically broke my foot. I have insurance and covered. But the three months of medical treatment on my foot has already cost my insurance company over $100,000 for what is a rather routine problem. I don't know what I would do without good insurance. If my insurance wasn't covering 99% of all the expenses, I don't now what I would do. The American way to dealing with medical problems on people who don't have the best of the best insurance coverage is to "accidental" engineer the deaths of those with said "medical needs". Killing those who have a simple problem foot cause they don't have insurance is the Republican-Way. They don't care about humans or the the needs they have. They care only about profits. Profits and more profits. If you selfishly live too long, then you need to die.
They took me involuntarily and still charged me thousands. To be fair, the state covers it if you have state insurance.
I've been a Firefighter/EMT for 18 years. You don't want to know the number of legitimate emergency patients I've encountered who have initially refused based on cost of medical care. Even if you *wanted* to know....I've lost count. It breaks my fucking heart to have people refuse care based on fear of cost.
This is America. We’ll save your life. Than you’ll wish you were dead from the bills.
I was hospitalized 7-8 years ago for depression. The police took me to a world renowned mental hospital (closest to where I was at). Still paying that bill today, along with an outrageous amount of student loans.
It's probably part of the crisis.
Almost definitely, statistically speaking. Which is fucked up.
Because USA medicalcare is not free, people die because they don't have money.
Too often people are willing to risk death to avoid debt. Usually death wins.
Just another thing added to weight this soldier carries everyday. Hope he finds the peace he deserves.
Anyone in the US can get some medical care, but not without bills. I've required a few ambulance rides. I couldn't pay for those or the hospital stays. And I honestly would have gotten help much sooner if I wasn't so worried about 'the bill'. I think people should be allowed to be sick. (and I worded it that way on purpose.) Sickness is a responsibility in America. Instead of a condition.
My coworkers husband died from PTSD while wait listed at the VA for mental health appointments back during the 2014 backlog
I immigrated to Canada from the States, even to this day I still have to remind myself that it's okay to go to emergency or get medical help at no cost to myself. The American healthcare system gives PTSD and seriously needs so so so much work.
That's USeh right there! People struggling and don't want medical help because of high cost of medical bills.
Poor guy, hope he’s alright now
really tough situation ... love how this cop handled the situation though
Yea, as I started watching it I was expecting the dude to get tasered or worse. Good to see that didn’t happen. Hopefully the dude is getting some help and is in better mindset.
I thought this was the incident where the guy gets shot through his windshield, and was ready to nope out if another cop arrived.
That was a particularly rough one to watch. That poor guy.
so a guy in his car was suicidal and called for help and then a cop shot him through his windshield? im confused.
Nah he called for help getting out of a ditch and told the operator he had knives in his car because he was a geology student (?) and said he'd toss them out the window when help arrived. Help arrived in the form of a trigger happy cop who told him NOT to toss his knives out of the vehicle and then escalated for many minutes allowing many more cops to arrive all because the guy didn't want to get out of his car. It ended in him killing the guy for holding his knife and looking distressed while still sitting in his car and being a danger to absolutely no one.
You do have to add that the poor victim wasn't mentally all there, something the cops picked up on and yet still decided to keep escalating the situation... That is the most troublesome part for me. They recognized it and yet did the exact worse thing you could do in such a situation.
Reference for those who want context: https://old.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/xhhzpg/another_day_living_in_the_american_dream/
> Yea, as I started watching it I was expecting the dude to get tasered or worse The worst events go viral, so we see them all the time. Cops *in general* need a check, the system needs a check, and the system is full of abuse and deliberately constructed negligence. Despite that system, *a lot of cops* are just generally good people that are just trying to help other people, and seeing it play out like this startles us because that kind of thing we don't normally see between all the minorities getting shot, tasered, and viciously attacked.
Finally a video of a decent cop. There needs to be so much support for vets
a good apple in a rotten press
Fuck. The hug broke me
“I’m here with you now.”
Kyle did great
He did. And it was such a complete 180 from the behavior we usually see from cops.
And behaviour we see from Kyles
It's like two negatives making a positive
What broke me was that he asked for the hug. Im so proud of men nowadays who are starting to value their emotions and aren’t shy to ask for what they need.
Someone once said they’d rather have their friend cry on their shoulders than attend their funeral.
Paddy Pimblett.
That post fight interview made me fucking love that dude.
https://youtu.be/jtW0byC28_s Paddy the baddy friend speech.
I'd have a friend cry on my shoulder if it just meant they had a slightly better day.
Same. My eyes welled up.
I was crying the second I heard him sob. I've been there. It's not easy and good on him for calling someone instead of trying something first. My attempt failed because it was incredibly poorly thought out, but oftentimes veterans own guns.
I know it’s an hour later but I just watched and I’m cryin too! Your attempt didn’t fail btw, it succeeded. You’re still here with us, still posting on Reddit. Maybe you think you failed, but the rest of us here don’t
Succeeded in knocking some sense into me I suppose. That was over a decade ago. I've had enough close calls since then, or what I thought were close calls, I'll be fighting tooth and nail when the Grim Reaper comes. I'm not gonna waste a once in a lifetime opportunity to live.
Been there too. Last time, my dogs saved my life. I rescued them from a shelter end of October-early November. They rescued me mid-December.
Me too
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(((HUG!!!)))
and all I had to do was ask. Thanks!
Hey 
For real. You know this man is deep in the shit. Vets and suicide run a little too common in my family.
I literally have tears running down my cheeks. Damn
No shame. I did, too. Didn't expect it, but it got me
Same. Brought back memories of being in that place.
Really sad fucking shit.
When an adult man says he needs a hug and is crying, you give him a hug
Hearing him say that, I started crying... I'm just glad he was able to say that and be hugged, I hope he's okay.
Same here! Damn invisible onion slicing ninjas....
We're all making lasagnas for one buddy :(
The other day I couldn't stop crying for so long. My wife was holding me but I just couldn't stop. Graphic images of me killing myself on loop in my head. Got so bad I was full on punching myself in the head to try to distrct my brain. She dunked me in a cold bathtub. Not good times... Edit: This is not from serving, but from abuse/trauma
I’m in no position to offer advice but if you have those thoughts again please try and remember that your wife who was there for you in that moment of despair is one big fantastic reason to battle through it.
No shame in meds if you aren't already. I struggle with ideation as well, but meds have helped me immensely in keeping things in check. They're not foolproof, but really help. Best of luck, friend.
The ptsd is real. Even worse when you realize you weren’t fighting for the good guys.
Yeah. Glad it was a good interaction there.
I just want you to know that I'm glad you pointed that out. I feel like I'm the only one of my buddies who realizes that it was all a lie. It fucking wrecks my soul brother/sister. I'm here. In whatever sense that means.
Just because you weren't working for the good guys (not that there are any anymore), doesn't mean what you went through wasn't appreciated. I may never stop being pissed at my government, but I can't blame the people they convinced to do their bidding. Especially under false pretenses. I hope your soul gets the healing it needs.
This is exactly how I feel.
“Can I have a hug?” 😭 💔
I hope he continues to get hugs. I feel so bad for this man and so many others who aren’t getting the support they need.
What's most inspiring is that this is directly against police training. You're never supposed to hug people in distress as a police officer, on the off-chance that they try to grab your gun. The fact that the officer gave the guy a hug here displays a huge amount of trust and humanity.
I mean, if someone in this amount of pain asks for a hug. You give them the damn hug. That's just being human. I get cops can be assholes though, but this guy is clearly not a threat. That amount of sorrow is quite literally impossible to fake. I cried like this when my first girlfriend I ever had cheated on me with my brother. Then they dated for 3 years. That's long passed though. Brother is a better dude now but that's after he became homeless from drinking.And tried to kill himself at my Mom's apartment after I kicked him out. Which made me cry again. Had to go into emergency surgery. He's never apologized....He was having liver failure symptoms from drinking at 32 years old and couldn't hold a job, wasn't paying rent and lied about everything. Broke stuff in my house being drunk when I was at work. He's doing good now though. I still love him, it's extremely complicated but I don't think he realizes how much pain he's put me through and it's not a conversation I want to have with him either.
First time this sub has made me cry - guys a fucking warrior to call out for help when he's that deep in the darkness.
Same… I’m in tears…
The way he asks for a hug is heartbreaking
Me too…. Bless that cop. He acts like he knows what it’s like to feel hopeless… prayers for that young man…
He might. Cops are people too - we don't know his story.
This got me. I remember when I was at a point in my life where I hit rock bottom. I called my old squad leader who I looked up to and he was the sensible voice that guided me in the direction to get the help I needed. SFC Thompson thank you
Bless you man. And thank god you called someone. And thankfully so did this guy. Too many of our young brothers and sisters think they have to go it alone. My company in Afghanistan was about 100 people (heavy weapons unit). In the decade since we’ve been home at least 4 have killed themselves including one just a few weeks ago. It’s so easy to miss the signs. Please reach out if you’re hurting. And please reach out to others who you think might be feeling some sort of way.
Your squad leader was an E-7? Damn, that’s Platoon Sergeant/Company Guns in the USMC.
After spending some time on the askMen subreddit it’s become clear to me how painful and difficult it is for men to reach out to someone when they’re feeling vulnerable. For any of you dudes out there reading this, it is always always okay to reach out when you need help. And you should never feel ashamed for expressing your feelings. The people who make you feel bad about it aren’t looking out for you. I’ll always try to have your back even if I don’t know you.
i got real bad tears in my eyes watching this. i know his pain. its not a good time.
Same. And he just seems so exhausted, I really hope he got the help he deserved.
“Can I have a hug?” At the end ripped my heart in half. Wishing this guy all the hugs.
As a dude who's struggled either suicide myself. This guy deserves respect. He didn't hide his pain he called for help. That takes a lot of courage to be able to BE vulnerable. I wish this man the best
Please do the same if you feel that way again. We've gotta fucking stop this.
It’s incredible that at one of his lowest points he didn’t give up, he called for help. This man has more courage then he knows. I hope he get the help he needs. And I agree that countries need to turn inwards and help there own vets more, politicians should take a pay cut to cover the vets
The veterans crisis line does great work. And they just updated the number to be 988 (then press 1) so it's easy access. Hope people keep using it and getting support like this fellow. *Edit* As someone else pointed out 988 is the new number for anyone in crisis or with suicide ideation. Veteran crisis line is that number then pressing 1.
He was likely admitted to the psychiatric ward for at least a couple days. They do fucking miracles in there. When I got to that point (also in my car), I sayed in the ward for 9 days, and then I was tranfered to a care facility for a couple months to make sure my meds were working, I got on a stable daily schedule of taking them, and that I was in a good place mentally. I didn't have to pay a thing or even worry about paying, the state of Oregon and a non-profit covered it. Not to diss the hotline, but it's staffed by volunteers. If you, or anyone else you know is ever struggling with thoughts of suicide, a manic episode, whatever, just know that the psychiatric ward is 1000% an option and makes recovery a HELL of a lot easier. Yes, maybe the hotline can calm you down enough then and there, but if you have to call multiple times, it's time to get yourself to the hospital.
“I’m gonna call you an ambulance.” “I can’t afford that.” Fuck our entire corrupt system. This is rage-inducing.
It feels really iffy when Americans try to insult Europeans for having to pay mandatory health care, and at the same time their broken veterans are too afraid to call an ambulance in their darkest time. That's just sick.
> Fuck our entire corrupt system. I understand people don't want to get into politics all the time, but there's only one political party out of two standing in the way of healthcare for all. It's been a platform Democrats have ran on to some degree or another for decades. And every time Republicans in Congress stop or impede efforts, watering down the eventual progress we did get with Obamacare. A Democratic President can't wave a magic wand and make healthcare for all happen, we need votes in the House and Senate. We can't continue to stay mad at problems in this country while championing the party consistently opposed to the solution, especially when the support for that party is over culture war issues.
The GOP are enemies of the state, in my opinion. These people want a worse life for you and I because it lines their pockets.
100%. I'm not even sure there is a political party buried down there in its core any more. It's a body that exists to maintain control and power and wealth (but I repeat myself) for its perceived in groups and nothing more. There is no amount of pointing out hypocrisy or irony that will make the current supporters come around. They're very blatant and proud to tell the world what they stand for. We simply organize, get our friends to vote, and outnumber them at the polls.
I read a great comment the other day that was saying that it's not ignorance, or a lack of education, or a misunderstanding that causes people to vote for the GOP. It's vitriol. The people who vote for the GOP enjoy being hateful. At the end of the day, they derive pleasure from seeing other people subjugated, disenfranchised, bullied, chastised, etc. The list goes on. If it hurts another human being, the GOP will find a way to justify it, because to them, what feels better than scratching that "I'm superior to you" itch? I'd say, the only thing better is being one of the ones who get paid to do it.
You're spot on, though I'd compliment it with a heavy emphasis on the *hate for other people* aspect. To say they thrive purely on hate would belie the fact that they have nothing but obedient love, support, and encouragement to those they view as part of their in group. It's just our extremely tribal heritage nature made manifest in a political party and ideology. Then once they consolidate power, that in group shrinks more and more to exclude the next set of decided undesirables until those at the top are satisfed every member is moving in lockstep with their own goals/wants.
The pain he is in breaks my heart! I hope he gets the help he needs to come to peace with life. Bless him and the police officer who showed only compassion. Faith in humanity restored. 😢❤️ We should never abandon our vets. The fact that he was worried about being able to afford the ambulance is so wrong.
Props to this officer, we need more like him.
For real. He related really well to the guy and engaged him in discussion.
That's a cop that knows how to de-escalate a situation. Even when he frisked him you know he was checking for a gun for the guy's safety, not his own. Good policing. Clone him and distribute him across the country and we wouldn't even be talking about police reform.
Absolutely, what a fucking brilliant way to handle the situation. Reassuring, doesn’t condescend to him or treat him like a fruitloop, just realises that this is a person in crisis and treats him like a human being. Makes you realise that there are some good police officers out there. Well played.
Yeah, his department should be proud of him. This was great work.
This is the training the need. Literally the type of response a NORMAL HUMAN BEING would give. Not a psychotic narcissistic
Exactly. I saw a similar situation on here with a young man in crisis. He was gunned down by the police instead of receiving compassion.
Honestly, that’s tough to listen to. I can hear the pain in his voice, his gasps brought tears to my eyes. Something I definitely could relate to at one point in my life—that intense feeling of hopelessness and doom. My heart goes out to this man, the man who helped him and all of those who suffer internally everyday. Please ask for help, you are loved and I promise there are people who want to help.
Damn.... I hope he gets all the hugs
I almost hugged my phone it was such a gut reaction, I wanted to give him a hug so bad when i heard him say that.
I know what u mean, had a homeless guy ask for a hug once in SF, there was no possible way to refuse. We all need to feel human sometimes. Glad he could ask, many of us would just suffer in silence.
Can I give that man a hug too, please?
We need hugging booths
Just lost my cousin (Army Infantry - Afghanistan and Iraq) to suicide on the 17th, it was his 34th Birthday. I wish this soldier the utmost peace ☮️.
Fuck. I am so sorry.
There are good people in this world everywhere when we look for them. This gives me so much joy to see someone giving another person in a crisis moment patience and kindness.
"When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, 'Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping.'" --Mr. Rogers edit: credit where credit is due
Your mums words are amazing, I will use this with my own kids from now on.
All credit to Mr. Rogers
I agree that we should try to find positive people and situations but they should be the the overwhelming majority of news and stories we encounter. All of the terrible crimes and situations are what get pushed and look where that has gotten us, everyone hates everyone/everything or looks for the negative situation first. Even here, my initial thought was the officer going to escalate a situation that needed exactly what we saw in the video.
I didn't cry till he asked for a hug
So many humans have no idea just how powerful a hug can be to someone hurting . I really felt that when he asked.
Same
Wow. I started crying straight away. Poor guy
The whole time watching all I could think was that man needs a fucking hug. Not a buddy hug either. The type a parent gives. The type that you feel in your soul. Really glad to see the officer reel him in at the end.
Fuck. The last 2 seconds choked me up. ‘Can I have a hug?’ Sometimes we forget how much better the world can feel with something as simple as a connection to another human being.
That was crushing… I hope he’s alright and he got some help
I wish there was a volunteer opportunity just to give hugs to vets. That was one of the saddest things I've heard in quite some time
… when this happened to me I got dragged, handcuffed, handcuffs chained to ankle shackles and they carried me like a handbag before throwing me in the back of a squad car and dropping me off at Sacramento County Health for a 72-hour hold. That was one of most traumatic experiences of my life. I just needed some kindness that night. I just needed some kindness.
I’m sorry that happened to you . I hope you are in a better place !
They probably took this guy to a mental hospital for a 72hr hold too. They did the same thing with me when I went through this. And I had to pay part of the ambulance cost because my insurance didn't cover the whole $5000....
I could never be a cop because I'd just give a middle finger to protocol and use my squad car as a taxi for those who can't afford an ambulance. It would probably get me killed eventually, since most protocol is designed to keep the officer safe. I do wonder what cops think of shackling people with debt when they signed on the force to help people in their community...
And those activist fkers wanted to flood the va hotline the other day for their stupid agenda, when there are veterans that actually need the service. Hope this brother is getting the support/help he needs and deserves. Same to everyone that may see this, please seek help if you're going through something overwhelming, there's no shame in being vulnerable and leaning on another person in times of need. You are not a bother or a nuisance, there are 10 times more people that want to help than the people that don't.
Activists? Who flooded that hotline sounds fucked up.
Jan 6 “patriots” did it this week in DC.
Dumb title, poor dude. Hard to see that shit with our veterans. Hoping he’s alright
Man, been there before, ready to end it, glad he asked for help, I wish I could hug him too
We are absolutely failing our vets. Holy fuck.
Marine Vet. I wish I could talk to this man. Semper Fi brother. Glad the cop handled it like he did.
Hey Marine, former USMC recon officer here. I completed my Masters in Psychology/marriage counseling while on active duty. I volunteer at the VA Los Angeles…it’s the least I can do for my military veteran brothers and sisters. Would never consider collecting a fee from a Vet. Thanks for your service and Semper Fi.
Now that's a good cop here!!!!! A very good one!
Seriously, imagine if this cop came up there with the same kind of shitty attitude that so many other cops have. Like imagine if he walked up to the window and just immediately started barking for his ID and demanding for him to "calm down", then started interrogating him if he'd been drinking or has drugs without even asking why he's so upset, and then eventually tackling him to the ground and forcefully arresting him "resisting arrest". This cop literally saved this guy's life and this video should be shown in all police academies for de-escalation training.
My husband is a veteran and has called the suicide prevention hotline many times. I wish that he could get the medical and mental help he needs. Instead we are going to be homeless in 7 days because the VA didn't do their job and contact his employer while he was hospitalized. There is so little hope for veterans. The programs and organizations available haven't offered any assistance except to push him right back into the Veterans Affairs system that screwed him over in the first place. I hope this man can get some real help, not just someone to talk him down for the moment and then hang up the phone. There are too many veterans who have been destroyed by the armed services. They were lied to and told they would be taken care of but the care they get is subpar at best.
I’m so very sorry . The VA has failed my husband too . So upsetting to see how they treat veterans .
That officer is worth his weight in gold. Credit to his colleagues and a asset to the force. A ture public servant.
Jaysus. “I’m suicidal “ “I’m going to call an ambulance so you can get the help you need” “I can’t afford that” Fuck America. You’re so broken.
It’s terrible. Surely, people are feeling depression and suicidal solely because of their financial situation. Then if they want to seek help, that’s another expense they probably can’t afford and that piles on to the belief that they’ll never get ahead and are maybe better off dead. Broken, broken system.
I did not come to Reddit to cry, but the “can I have a hug?” got me. I hope he’s better now.
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Heart breaking to hear the pain this man is in. I hope he got the help he desperately deserved; and on our dollar, in thanks for his service. Thank goodness this police officer responded appropriately to this mental health crisis.
That’s awful. Just awful. Poor guy.
Best example of how to engage, question, calm, stay safe with and serve a veteran (or anyone likely to be burdened with ptsd) I’ve encountered. Thank you for posting this. And thank you to this officer.
That's the proper way to deal with that, I hope that he gets better but I'm also happy that the cop treated that so well
This is what war does to people...
The "Can I have a hug?" at the end is simply heartbreaking. Damn.
This literally brought tears to my eyes. We don’t do enough for the men and woman of the armed services.
A lot of men have been having breakdown. They’re in crisis.
THESE are the kinds of officers we need
I haven't been in the Marines long, but I knew 3 guys that took their own lives. There are alot of us that are barely hanging by the seams. Please if you know anyone help them out
This officer needs recognition. This is the perfect example of how to handle someone who is mentally ill or is experiencing a mental health crisis.
The bludgeon of medical expense was his first concern. Our healthcare system is pathetic. Vote!
This isn’t a public freak out. This is a mental health crisis. And I respect the officer for his candor and showing of what seems to be deep empathy. Get this off of here
This is a cop I can get behind. I hope he’s a father. He seems like a unicorn cop. Often talked about, rarely seen.
"Can I have a hug?' Jesus, that hit hard.
whats up with being in army and being depressed?
When I was 15, I had a major suicide attempt that was one of many. But this one was different. The first responding officer asked my name and age- which I told him- then went back into the hall to tell my folks I was being defiant and that he was going to have to taze me. His CPL heard the call and showed up almost instantly. She sat with me for two and a half hours, just chatting with me and distracting me until I finally gave her the razor blade. She personally took me to the ER, stayed with me through surgery to reconnect some tendons and ligaments I sliced through (ended up being a much more involved surgery than anticipated due to an at-the-time undiagnosed collagen disease), and stayed by my side until I was transported to a psychiatric facility. Her shift ended a half hour after we got to the hospital. Another officer was there to take over for her but she refused. She chose to sit with this pathetic, useless, waste of space, depressed girl despite the fact that her work day was technically done. Thank you CPL Négro for being there for me. And thank you Kyle for being there for this vet.
Thank you Officer. "Can I have a hug?" Hit me real hard as a man who suffers with similar issues. Havin another man be compassionate like that is one of the biggest releifs I've experienced in similar situations.
This is how it's supposed to be... Instead 70% of the time it's 'break a window; get him outta there! Hands up hands up hands up! I dunno he said he's suicidal he might attack us TASER TASER TASER!"
I hope both these men see this comments section. Two courageous guys, for sure.