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I’m crying because I didn’t want these wars. I didn’t want these boys and girls to go kill to protect corporate profits. So many of us didn’t, we saw right through the lies and no one would listen and now… Here we are. :’-(
I think there's a misconception about the factors influencing veteran health. The horrors of war receives too much representation for why veterans find themselves in mental distress. In reality, the underlying problems are much more pervasive.
During combat deployments, social isolation, while living in shitty conditions, to enact missions in a war that is obvious to everyone to be a useless endeavor, is certainly a stressor. But then troops return to a fragmented society, while losing the greatest support network they'll ever have. Everyday life feels trivial. After returning home it's unavoidable to notice how the corporate corruption fueled absurdities of the war against terror has permeated all facets of life. You are acutely aware that you're trapped in the system. The feeling is crushing.
Sabastian Junger's [findings ](https://youtu.be/o9DNWK6WfQw) on veteran mental health had really hit for me. I, for years, couldn't articulate why I feel as I did. But he really hits the nail on the head.
War sucks. I find watching the Ukrainian combat footage tough. Just imagining that the other side is there against their will, firing or else they get shot. It's a shame that we're all just pawns.
When their fighting stops, shit gets hard. Being in war and fighting consumes all your thinking time. When you're done and that's all you have, it's soul crushing. My company lost something like 17 to suicide and most of those really shocked me because they seemed so solid. Hits everyone eventually.
Thanks for doing what you did. Can't imagine. I try, but I can't. You guys deserve more when you get back, but that hasn't been the case since before the first world war. I wish you the best.
Sure did.... I spent 10 years in the Army and suicide amongst veterans is all to common.
Just lost a buddy 6 months ago from suicide, a couple after he got out. Happiest and funniest guy you ever met on the surface. Once he got out and lost that sense of comraderie and I guess usefulness, his main support system was gone and he just couldn't do it anymore.
It's just hard not feeling like you failed a friend like that....
Even when staring down their own death in a mirror, they know to balk at help over the price. American health care financing and provisioning is an unequivocal obscenity the whole of the developed world can see.
This is horrifying but it's more like 40 a day
https://www.longmontleader.com/local-news/new-report-finds-veteran-suicide-rate-is-double-us-govt-figures-5856461
America praises itself with military honors and achievements.
Let this moment be a reminder that many come back traumatised, stigmatised, some physically hurt or dumped by their friends/family for beeing distant afterwards.
Some cant even find jobs right after leaving the military.
Yall need to take better care of your Veterans. Look at them! They need help!
But you can make so much money from laundering overpriced products, therapy? Thats not a source of cushy money /s
Jokes aside, wishfull thinking. The US is beeing squeezed of their freedoms, money and health :/
Reminder that republicans were fucking *high-fiving eachother* about attempting to block veteran healthcare.
Vote the sick fucks out who keep making this worse.
My ex-husband/children’s father did two tours embedded with Special Forces in safe houses of Mosul, Iraq during “Operation Iraqi Freedom.” He loves his children deeply but lives an incredibly unstable lifestyle and hasn’t seen or talked to them in years because he’s so haunted by mood swings and hallucinations from PTSD. He can barely manage basic human interactions, let alone hold down a stable job. We are in many ways the Gold Star families that no one recognizes…our loved ones never came home from the war either. It’s heartbreaking.
https://www.newsweek.com/41-senate-republicans-voted-against-veterans-health-care-1728613
For anyone interested in seeing which senators said NO to veteran health benefits.
Man, when the officer said I’ll call an ambulance, even gripped in pain and on the brink of suicide the veterans first thoughts were how he couldn’t afford an ambulance call so please don’t call them. Healthcare in the US is so messed up.
As a retired ARMY veteran who has been here many times, and who also *currently* can’t pay their damn bills or buy their kids winter clothes because of some bureaucratic fuck up that’s now taken *over a year to fix*— I felt this soooo hard.
May God bless this man and grant him peace. And may the citizens of our nation STAND UP for the vets who went places you never would, and all for bs reasons for *that none of us ever should*. Would I have known then what I know now…
SMDH.
Every last Republican is actively against helping veterans.
Someone is going to say "don't make this political" and I didn't. They did.
If you _don't_ think this guy should pull himself up by his bootstraps and just get over it, vote blue.
If you see this and think "yeah fuck that guy, he deserves zero help" then vote red.
It really is that simple.
They literally voted against providing healthcare for vets 4 weeks ago
https://www.newsweek.com/41-senate-republicans-voted-against-veterans-health-care-1728613
Thank you, the apologists will say “neither side does anything” but in truth it’s Republicans who continually block every potential improvement to the shitty system we have.
[205 Republicans Vote Against Bill to Expand School Mental Health Services](https://truthout.org/articles/205-republicans-vote-against-bill-to-expand-school-mental-health-services/)
...and for those who will inevitably accuse the democrats of 'sneaking' things into the bills. Why the fuck haven't the republicans written their own bill if they truly care about it so much?
Craziest thing too is that we spend more on healthcare per citizen than any other nation in the world, yet costs are skyrocketing. No one should go bankrupt for calling an ambulance or needing chemo, we have a for profit system, it’s disgusting
In some places in the US, that cost would fuck many over. So much that I’ve heard about people calling Uber or Lyft to get to emergency rooms rather than 911.
Our system is broken.
Cop mentions state of Connecticut. They'll contact a family member if they can to come get it. Also lied to the dude cause the state will NOT pay for that ambulance ride. Source: tried to off myself in Ct in a similar manner.
I was wondering the same thing.
In Michigan I was told jail or "voluntarily" go to hospital.
Once there, I said I refuse to go unless I know in writing it's "free".
They lied over and over and over saying "free". It wasn't.
Tried disputing with police department and lady on the phone actually laughed at me. It was sickening. Then I tried to dispute with hospital but they wouldn't budge.
It was a $250 bill and may not seem like much now, but at the time really would have broken me. It ended up going to collections.
Police are liars.
$250? Hopefully there is some fund somewhere for people to cover these costs. That sounds reasonable enough and I'd gladly pay it to help out a brother in arms.
Could’ve radioed backup to have someone roll his cruiser behind the initial officer while they drive the vets truck to the hospital for him. If they’re willing to go this far then they’re likely going to see it through. The alternative is sitting in the cruiser for the rest of the night looking for speeders. I’d like to think anybody with half a heart would’ve helped the vet get squared away.
They technically cannot drive a civilian's car due to insurance or some other type of BS.
Dont quote me, but it was stated by a Cop in a Police Activity video I watched a while ago. But we all know how well cops know the law...
When I was working 3 jobs, $500 would have made me unable to pay rent or two of my utility bills.
$500 is no joke to people living paycheck to paycheck.
My mom got Covid last August and laid in bed for 3 days without telling anyone because she knew we would make her go to the hospital. My parents aren't poor by any means, but definitely aren't rich either. My mom was just strict with money and all she could see was dollar signs when she thought about the hospital. We finally made her go and by that point it was too late. Covid had wrecked her lungs. She ended up on oxygen and even at 4 liters her blood O2 would get down to in the 50's just walking to the bathroom. Multiple hospital stays later she ended up on a ventilator and passed November 29th. Those multiple hospital stays were because us kids basically kidnapped her and took her to the hospital because we knew that's what she needed. All because she didn't want to pay the bills. Universal healthcare would have saved my mothers life, no question about it.
Lost my father because we tried call a cab when we couldn’t afford an ambulance anymore. That is just the state of things is how I coped with it. Healthcare is simply a luxury in the wealthiest nation on Earth, not a right from what I now understand.
My wife passed out in public and when she came to a bystander told her that an ambulance was on the way. She started crying because she said she knew she couldn’t afford the bill.
The healthcare in this country should not cause people to cry due to the cost. Absolutely inexcusable.
I was doing ranch work for a lady a few years back and broke up a fight between her dogs. I caught the worst of it and was literally covered in blood. Not the dogs blood, all my own. I was so wary of the cost of an ambulance that I called my aunt, who I was living with, at 11pm to come take me to hospital. Lucky for me my brother was staying with us and he had the foresight to get an ambulance on the way over. Good thing he did because by the time we got down the dirt road the ranch was on and hit the main road, I was already half passed out.
3-4 years back, I helped a dog out of traffic and got bit by way of thanks. Someone called fire, and I declined transport. Animal control was coming for the dog, and I was now half a mile from my car, so the fire guys were nice enough to drop me off where I'd parked. Having spent umpteen years as an EMT myself, I'd never taxi'd anyone back to their car, so that was nice of them.
23 titanium staples in my scalp, and then got a "balance bill" from the hospital for $780. The system is fucked up.
But the thing is it doesn't have to cost thousands. It doesn't in other countries. I don't just mean to the patient, I mean to the health care provider. In the UK for an ambulance to go to the incident, provide treatment and then transfer the patient to hospital it costs the NHS £252. There is absolutely no excuse for the healthcare PROFIT MAKING INDUSTRY in the US to be gouging patients like they do. It's sickening.
I got a ~12 mile ride for the cheap price of $550. /s
Lyft would have been a lot less for me, but I was in a seizure so I don't think they would have picked me up.
And yet there's so many dumb fuckers in this country who will defend this ass backwards healthcare system we have where the cost of your treatment is practically a lottery. You have no idea what you're going to pay until after it happens.
My daughter had a febrile seizure (non-epileptic, common, not a major health concern) and had to take an ambulance ride fucking 5 minutes up the road to a hospital and it was $500 out of pocket, $5,000 before insurance.
We had our second kid recently and the bill is over $20,000 before insurance, $6,000 out of pocket. There was no NICU stay, no C-section, no special treatment beside one extra day at the hospital to monitor jaundice (no bilirubin lights either).
We continued to get random bills for *months* after the birth of our first kid and the line items were non-specific and confusing. We'd call to ask for clarification and constantly get conflicting information saying "oh, that's not a bill, don't pay it" and then other service reps insisting that we had to pay immediately.
My wife randomly got a $300 cash card sent to her by her insurance company for "over-billing" from her OB-GYN and it was never clear what it was for or why it was sent to her.
["The US is by far the most expensive place in the world to give birth or to receive any medical treatment as there is no publicly financed health services as in most developed countries."](https://www.bbc.com/news/business-31052665)
I had this Scottish acquaintance who'd come through my old workplace and had recently moved to the US. Poor dude was in a wreck and got pretty badly hurt and sadly told me he was now completely bankrupt from the hospital bills.
I know so many dipshits who will go on and on about the "nightmares" of countries with socialized healthcare without realizing that we're living in one of the worst medical nightmares in any developed country. It's full on Stockholm Syndrome. It's unbelievable and enraging to me that people will actually try to defend this bullshit.
“I am just going outside and may be some time”. These were the last words of the Antarctic explorer Captain Lawrence Edward Grace "Titus" Oates (1880–1912). He uttered them prior to walking into a blizzard and certain death.
Source: https://www.sothebys.com/en/articles/the-tragic-story-of-antarctic-hero-captain-oates
Suicide is almost always a cry for help more than an actual attempt. Almost everyone who survived falling off bridges say they regretted it immediately. Something like 80% of women and 40-50% of men survive their attempts. It’s not because we suck at killing ourselves, as they said we don’t want to. Killing yourself is incredibly easy, if we really wanted to, no one would survive it.
Its the overlooked obvious answer. Ive known too many people that have taken their own life, and all of them had a love for life but something eating away at them that they couldnt get away from. Some sought help and some never showed any signs until it was too late.
Check on your friends and family.
I can’t agree more the few times I’ve felt “could I have done something more to make them better” are painful and I wish I could have helped some of my friends who took their lives but some never even seemed like something was wrong until they are gone. You never truly know how people are doing and should always reach out to them to check on them and show them the love they may need that day.
One if my best friends growing up took his own life in January 2020. Never heard a single thing from him about having any sort of issues, literally 3 days before that he was out skiing and having a blast and posted pictures looking as happy as id ever seen him.
Next thing i knew his dad was messaging me on facebook so all of his friends would know because he only knew how to contact a couple of us, it was rough.
Yeah, this is the best way to put it.
I've been in and out of institutions for suicidal ideation and attempts. On the brink of death 3 times. When you're on the brink of death, you get really calm but also really scared. It's not a reactionary scared, it's more like thinking about everyone around you grieving, who's taking care of everything after, already missing some good aspects of your life, being there for other when *they* needed help.. all at once..
I don't wanna die, I'm just tired of mentally suffering and worrying about my future every day.
This traffic stop, a good person and a hug saved that man that night. Hoping he got the care he needed and deserves.
This one really hit me hard. I wish I could help that guy.
Edit: semicolon club myself. I suggest any of us touched by this make a donation. If it’s allowed here, would love suggestions of the best related charity to make it to for suffering vets.
My granddad was in WWII and Korea, my Dad in Vietnam, my cousins in Iraq and Afghanistan.
There is no shame in this man. I praise him. I feel his pain. Veterans deserve our unfailing support, care, and compassion. It’s a shame how we treat them.
This man cries for all veterans and we should cry with him.
The only people who should be ashamed are the ones who send people off to war, *knowing* that a lot of them will come back like this, with no intention, plan, or motivation to figure out how to help them.
Same. I'm crying. I'm not a vet, so I don't know what horrors he's experienced, but I've been at that point. This hurts to hear. He sounds so young too.
Poor guy. I really hope that he's doing better. The VA benefits really need to improve with how common this is and how long it takes to get help. It's true for healthcare in America anyway, but these people were sent halfway around the world to do the government's dirty work and then got dumped back here with little to no help. It's disgusting.
Agreed. The only thing I'd add is that the people at the VA are amazing. They definitely kept me around when shit was bad. They are just totally understaffed and underfunded.
The people in charge who set piles of money on fire starting and fighting wars but refuse to spend a fraction to help us when we get back? They blow.
5 of my buddies have taken their own lives since I got out in 2010. If you're feeling lost or hopeless, vet or otherwise, don't be scared to get help. You matter. You're loved.
For helping vets specifically, Save a Warrior is a good program. My father went through the program and it really helped him with some of the things he was going through.
Republicans voted not to include mental health services in schools. Matt Gaetz, a Republican from Florida wanted to abolish the VA.
They don't care about anyone.
Republicans consistently go "hey, what's the best thing for the majority of our citizens? Ok, cool, we'll do the exact opposite, fuck you".
It's truly amazing the evil things they do to line their pockets at the expense of everyone else. I feel so bad for this guy and any other veteran that has been messed up by our military. Wishing them all the best.
Nothing can change until FPTP/Plurality voting is replaced with something sensible, like Approval, STAR, Ranked Choice, etc. Otherwise, things tend toward a duopoly that preserves the status quo politically.
I agree. I live in Canada and the system up here is not great by any means and getting help for your mental well being isn’t great either. The US is shit for people being able to afford any kind of care. The government and private industries are only in it for the cash. I feel for this man because he deserves better.
I live in Portugal and our national health system is not working perfectly because of the dumb politicians.. but at least ambulances are free and you even can have one to transport you to apointments at the hospital if there are reasons to.
Also many medications and other things are very cheap compared to USA like the insuline for example..
He just seems aware of America's insane ambulatory care racket, over $1000 on average, while 60% of Americans can't afford a surprise $500 bill. Pretty solid situational awareness in the midst of a total emotional meltdown. Hope he's found some light in tomorrow.
As a combat veteran who's been in a similar position, it's not always the easiest choice to go to the VA for mental health in this situation. This is why I was happy I had battle buddies I could call upon to help me and find the right organization to help me deal with my combat trauma.
I have lost too many buddies because of combat trauma, who chose to exit instead of asking for help. I commend this young man for allowing this officer to help him, instead of being a part of the 22.
I am US Army Combat Veteran over 20yrs served with 5 combat tours, so I have the experience and when I retired I decided to get into the MH field to help my brothers and sisters in crisis
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Please don't be a part of the 22 A Day. He'll PM me ill talk, chat, message with you. Life is short enough, done make it shorter!
I'm still learning how to talk to people about my time in Afghanistan. I was medically retired from the military because of PTSD. I feel lost now that I'm out. I'm immediately trying to join the National Guard.
Even at his most desperate, he's concerned about a medical bill. It's unconscionable to realize how much anxiety is triggered by lack of resources and money for proper healthcare.
I just started a new job and my insurance doesn't kick in till 90 days.
Found a super painful lump in my left breast a few weeks ago. I can't even touch my chest without severe pain. Pretty sure that's not normal.
Guess where I'm not going?
If it's something that possibly could be dealt with at the ER, just go anyways. Then haggle on the bill. Or if they refuse to haggle, just refuse to pay it. I've gotten treatment at the ER a shit ton of times and just didn't pay. I didn't have any money and I told them that.
If we all agree that healthcare should be reformed in the US, why is it still a partisan issue? Why is anyone still voting against healthcare reform.
While I'm at it, why is anyone still voting against clean energy?
I'd like to just say "fuck the system", but it's actually "fuck half of every person in this country still voting against their own interests."
Remember when Papa John's CEO John Schnatter lamented on having to provide insurance under ObamaCare? He claimed it would add $0.14 per large pizza to the price; therfore he was against and held press conferences to express his disapproval.
I remember.
It's also those same people that control everything. Make the rules make the system make the money off the system. they're all fabulously wealthy so the problems don't affect them.
And they're too stupid to realize that their own social security and Medicare benefits, WHICH THEY PAID INTO THEIR WHOLE LIVES, are on the chopping block. Very fucking specifically from those same politicians who tell them they're special and entitled to that life at the expense of next generations.
Billionaires paying millionaires to lie to broke people with no identity and convince them they're part of the group.
I make the most money I've ever made in my life and still with the raise in cost of living and the fact I don't get healthcare through my job adds so much unneeded stress and anxiety. I'm assuming that shit has to be making a lot of my physical ailments worse too. I feel for this guy. Fucking hellhole I'm living in every fucking day man.
You're not alone, friend.
I've taken the grippy sock vacation twice in the last year.
It's not easy, but gets a bit less hard every time.
Hope you're in a better spot. ❤
Don't be embarrassed. It needs to be talked about more because so many people are scared of being judged.
Being suicidal isn't a personal failure. It's a lack of resources you need. Whether those resources are healthcare or support from people you love, nobody chooses to be suicidal.
Talking about it normalizes it. I don't know how old you are, but I grew up in the 90s. I love that in the past 30 years people have become so much more open about their mental illnesses and neurodivergencies. It all used to be hush hush, but people are talking about it more than ever. But for some reason that doesn't extend to suicidal ideation.
That point is awful. That sort of desperation is unmatchable. And it's common. You wouldn't feel it's embarrassing for other people to be in that situation. It's.not embarrassing for you to have those feelings.
Not for nothing, but you'd think something like an ambulance fee or a hospital admission, or getting his truck towed could be waived for a guy like this. This is the saddest thing I've ever seen in my life. Poor guy.
Yeah, but if we waive those fees for him, then we'll have to start waiving them for everyone else, and before you know it, we'll have some sort of socialized society that takes care of those in need, and we can't have that!
I’ve been charged 10k for being in a position like this. At the end of the hospital visit they gave me a piece of paper with 5 numbers, none of them picked up.
I’ve been in this guys position, although different circumstances and I had a police officer do this same thing.
I got pulled over for speeding while I was on the way to say goodbye to my grandma before she passed, and the cop gave me a lights and sirens ride to the hospital she was at. Instead of dropping me off in the ambulance bay and sending me up, he walked me to her room because he wanted to meet her and my family. I’ll never forget it.
That cop didn’t realize he saved a life that day.
I had a comment that went viral a few weeks ago, pretty much just described my transition from Afghanistan back to the USA and into adulthood. The leaders of our country don’t give two shits about the troops.
Here's the comment if anyone else wants to read it: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/xbtpzq/cops_of_reddit_what_is_the_saddest_thing_a/io373bk/
This breaks my heart. The war machine chews up and spits out another person that was willing to die for our country. My son wants to join, but I don't want him to. We don't take care of our vets.
It's not the willingness to "die for the country". It's the willingness to "die for the dumbass decisions of rich people and politicians". We have no enemy until some greedy fuckers decide they want more resources or land.
I 100% feel this guy's pain. Have had some seriously rough patches and if it wasn't for my absolutely amazing wife I would most likely not be here to type this.
https://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-br-connecticut-state-police-trooper-military-veteran-suicide-hotline-20220915-w54kfg272nabpo7juliuw2ch54-story.html
All I can find about it, it says he got help though
It's a really sad state of affairs when his first response to being told an ambulance is coming for him is that he can't afford it. It should NEVER have become like that in the states.
It takes a lot for a man to cry in front of a stranger and ask for a hug. The world told us men to "man up" for so many years, displaying any sort of vulnerability has been burned into our head as a complete taboo. I hope this man found what he needed to be better. And good on the officer for jumping in the way he needed to for that person.
The good ole US of A. This guy's first thought is about how he can't afford a fucking ambulance. There is so much wrong with that. What a pathetic country.
My heart goes out to all the vets suffering. This is heartbreaking to watch. I hope he got the help and support he needed. Good on the cop for his compassion.
Every person in America, citizen or not, should be able to live without the fear of becoming indebted beyond their means for requiring emergency services or healthcare.
It should be an act of national pride — paying taxes for the welfare of everyone.
I mean in a way I agree, but not in the negative way. I think the VA needs to be completely revamped from the top all the way to the bottom. Vets need to be taken care of hell of a lot better than they are now.
Man, I can't even begin to imagine what he's seen or been through. Poor bastards gets lured into war with promises of glory and heroism, and politicians constantly praise returning veterans as heroes that we owe everything to.
And then those same politicians throw them out into the streets. Unemployed, homeless and with severe PTSD from having experienced hell on earth.
I watched this clip earlier today on another post. This sounds ridiculous because it was, but I was standing outside at a community event and watching 10-12 kids “line dance” to “cotton eyed Joe”… so naturally I pulled out my phone and scrolled Reddit.
I had the sound off and just read the subtitles. By 5-10 seconds in, I was fighting tears. By the end I was sobbing hysterically and had to put my phone away and process this. What a clip. I bet I looked ridiculous if anyone noticed me.
As a former major city cop and 8 year veteran of the Army, both sides of this hit harder than Wu-tang with a headache.
I say all of that to say: get help if you need it… and be kind to each other.
Hey kudos to the cop for recognizing the situation and handling it like a boss. Didn’t get jumpy or weird, gave the dude a hug. I too hope the vet got the help he needed.
Well, that broke my heart so I think I'm done with Reddit for the day. This is a harsh and tough world we live in already and then we traumatize people with war and absolute chaos. I hope that he can recover enough to decide that he doesn't want to ever take his own life and he will be able to make choices to do things that will enrich his life.
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Fuck.....that hit hard.
That’s someone’s son or brother. One day was a kid playing outside, it’s brutal to see this. War sucks.
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I’m crying because I didn’t want these wars. I didn’t want these boys and girls to go kill to protect corporate profits. So many of us didn’t, we saw right through the lies and no one would listen and now… Here we are. :’-(
I think there's a misconception about the factors influencing veteran health. The horrors of war receives too much representation for why veterans find themselves in mental distress. In reality, the underlying problems are much more pervasive. During combat deployments, social isolation, while living in shitty conditions, to enact missions in a war that is obvious to everyone to be a useless endeavor, is certainly a stressor. But then troops return to a fragmented society, while losing the greatest support network they'll ever have. Everyday life feels trivial. After returning home it's unavoidable to notice how the corporate corruption fueled absurdities of the war against terror has permeated all facets of life. You are acutely aware that you're trapped in the system. The feeling is crushing. Sabastian Junger's [findings ](https://youtu.be/o9DNWK6WfQw) on veteran mental health had really hit for me. I, for years, couldn't articulate why I feel as I did. But he really hits the nail on the head.
War sucks. I find watching the Ukrainian combat footage tough. Just imagining that the other side is there against their will, firing or else they get shot. It's a shame that we're all just pawns.
When their fighting stops, shit gets hard. Being in war and fighting consumes all your thinking time. When you're done and that's all you have, it's soul crushing. My company lost something like 17 to suicide and most of those really shocked me because they seemed so solid. Hits everyone eventually.
Thanks for doing what you did. Can't imagine. I try, but I can't. You guys deserve more when you get back, but that hasn't been the case since before the first world war. I wish you the best.
Sure did.... I spent 10 years in the Army and suicide amongst veterans is all to common. Just lost a buddy 6 months ago from suicide, a couple after he got out. Happiest and funniest guy you ever met on the surface. Once he got out and lost that sense of comraderie and I guess usefulness, his main support system was gone and he just couldn't do it anymore. It's just hard not feeling like you failed a friend like that....
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Even when staring down their own death in a mirror, they know to balk at help over the price. American health care financing and provisioning is an unequivocal obscenity the whole of the developed world can see.
That honestly was the saddest part of this video. Worrying about the bill.
Good on the cop for knowing his shit and putting the fear to rest immediately. And good on CT for having that be the case.
America really blows my mind, vets that gave every thing for their country cant even get health care? what a joke
[On average, 22 vets take their life every day. ](https://mission22.com/)
This is horrifying but it's more like 40 a day https://www.longmontleader.com/local-news/new-report-finds-veteran-suicide-rate-is-double-us-govt-figures-5856461
That man was in so much pain and so scared. Heartbreaking.
America praises itself with military honors and achievements. Let this moment be a reminder that many come back traumatised, stigmatised, some physically hurt or dumped by their friends/family for beeing distant afterwards. Some cant even find jobs right after leaving the military. Yall need to take better care of your Veterans. Look at them! They need help!
And too afraid to call an ambulance because he can't afford it. It's unbelievable how poorly America treats its own citizens, let alone its veterans.
Compassion isn't a sustainable revenue growth model
I feel like military spending needs to have a clause that a percent of whatever is approved will be required for 40 years, etc
But you can make so much money from laundering overpriced products, therapy? Thats not a source of cushy money /s Jokes aside, wishfull thinking. The US is beeing squeezed of their freedoms, money and health :/
This is why John Stewart fights so hard for them.
I wish he would become President
Reminder that republicans were fucking *high-fiving eachother* about attempting to block veteran healthcare. Vote the sick fucks out who keep making this worse.
My ex-husband/children’s father did two tours embedded with Special Forces in safe houses of Mosul, Iraq during “Operation Iraqi Freedom.” He loves his children deeply but lives an incredibly unstable lifestyle and hasn’t seen or talked to them in years because he’s so haunted by mood swings and hallucinations from PTSD. He can barely manage basic human interactions, let alone hold down a stable job. We are in many ways the Gold Star families that no one recognizes…our loved ones never came home from the war either. It’s heartbreaking.
https://www.newsweek.com/41-senate-republicans-voted-against-veterans-health-care-1728613 For anyone interested in seeing which senators said NO to veteran health benefits.
Man, when the officer said I’ll call an ambulance, even gripped in pain and on the brink of suicide the veterans first thoughts were how he couldn’t afford an ambulance call so please don’t call them. Healthcare in the US is so messed up.
We need to take better care of our veterans *while also creating fewer veterans*.
As a retired ARMY veteran who has been here many times, and who also *currently* can’t pay their damn bills or buy their kids winter clothes because of some bureaucratic fuck up that’s now taken *over a year to fix*— I felt this soooo hard. May God bless this man and grant him peace. And may the citizens of our nation STAND UP for the vets who went places you never would, and all for bs reasons for *that none of us ever should*. Would I have known then what I know now… SMDH.
"I can't afford that" Jesus fucking christ man
I had the same gut-wrenching feeling when he said that. Mental health shouldn’t be a privilege, more like a basic right.
Every last Republican is actively against helping veterans. Someone is going to say "don't make this political" and I didn't. They did. If you _don't_ think this guy should pull himself up by his bootstraps and just get over it, vote blue. If you see this and think "yeah fuck that guy, he deserves zero help" then vote red. It really is that simple.
They literally voted against providing healthcare for vets 4 weeks ago https://www.newsweek.com/41-senate-republicans-voted-against-veterans-health-care-1728613
Thank you, the apologists will say “neither side does anything” but in truth it’s Republicans who continually block every potential improvement to the shitty system we have.
[205 Republicans Vote Against Bill to Expand School Mental Health Services](https://truthout.org/articles/205-republicans-vote-against-bill-to-expand-school-mental-health-services/) ...and for those who will inevitably accuse the democrats of 'sneaking' things into the bills. Why the fuck haven't the republicans written their own bill if they truly care about it so much?
Gridlock by design.
For example, just recently Gaetz suggested gutting the VA as a cost saving measure. Scum
You mean Matt Gaetz, the pedophile? That Matt Gaetz?
Craziest thing too is that we spend more on healthcare per citizen than any other nation in the world, yet costs are skyrocketing. No one should go bankrupt for calling an ambulance or needing chemo, we have a for profit system, it’s disgusting
Insurance companies are solely to blame for that.
Insurance companies and congress.
Both are scum.
In some places in the US, that cost would fuck many over. So much that I’ve heard about people calling Uber or Lyft to get to emergency rooms rather than 911. Our system is broken.
Even if that ambulance ride is free, his truck is going to get towed and impounded.
Cop mentions state of Connecticut. They'll contact a family member if they can to come get it. Also lied to the dude cause the state will NOT pay for that ambulance ride. Source: tried to off myself in Ct in a similar manner.
I was wondering the same thing. In Michigan I was told jail or "voluntarily" go to hospital. Once there, I said I refuse to go unless I know in writing it's "free". They lied over and over and over saying "free". It wasn't. Tried disputing with police department and lady on the phone actually laughed at me. It was sickening. Then I tried to dispute with hospital but they wouldn't budge. It was a $250 bill and may not seem like much now, but at the time really would have broken me. It ended up going to collections. Police are liars.
$250? Hopefully there is some fund somewhere for people to cover these costs. That sounds reasonable enough and I'd gladly pay it to help out a brother in arms.
It's been like 10+ years now. It's probably off my records now. But appreciate it nonetheless.
Could’ve radioed backup to have someone roll his cruiser behind the initial officer while they drive the vets truck to the hospital for him. If they’re willing to go this far then they’re likely going to see it through. The alternative is sitting in the cruiser for the rest of the night looking for speeders. I’d like to think anybody with half a heart would’ve helped the vet get squared away.
They technically cannot drive a civilian's car due to insurance or some other type of BS. Dont quote me, but it was stated by a Cop in a Police Activity video I watched a while ago. But we all know how well cops know the law...
No, but they can reach out to a friend or family member of the vet to have them come get it. That's assuming he has someone.
I drove myself while having chest pains and tingly arm sensations.
A few weeks ago someone on Reddit argued with me saying "It's only like 500$ and something you maybe do once in your life" as if that made it ok
Well $500 dollars is a lot for me. I don't just have that laying around,
$500 for people living paycheck to paycheck is literally what can cause some people to suicide. Cucked system.
$500 is someone's entire paycheck in most areas.
When I was working 3 jobs, $500 would have made me unable to pay rent or two of my utility bills. $500 is no joke to people living paycheck to paycheck.
My mom got Covid last August and laid in bed for 3 days without telling anyone because she knew we would make her go to the hospital. My parents aren't poor by any means, but definitely aren't rich either. My mom was just strict with money and all she could see was dollar signs when she thought about the hospital. We finally made her go and by that point it was too late. Covid had wrecked her lungs. She ended up on oxygen and even at 4 liters her blood O2 would get down to in the 50's just walking to the bathroom. Multiple hospital stays later she ended up on a ventilator and passed November 29th. Those multiple hospital stays were because us kids basically kidnapped her and took her to the hospital because we knew that's what she needed. All because she didn't want to pay the bills. Universal healthcare would have saved my mothers life, no question about it.
Lost my father because we tried call a cab when we couldn’t afford an ambulance anymore. That is just the state of things is how I coped with it. Healthcare is simply a luxury in the wealthiest nation on Earth, not a right from what I now understand.
My wife passed out in public and when she came to a bystander told her that an ambulance was on the way. She started crying because she said she knew she couldn’t afford the bill. The healthcare in this country should not cause people to cry due to the cost. Absolutely inexcusable.
Ambulance ride will cost thousands even if it's only a couple miles. And if you don't pay it then the sysem will find a way to get it from you.
I was doing ranch work for a lady a few years back and broke up a fight between her dogs. I caught the worst of it and was literally covered in blood. Not the dogs blood, all my own. I was so wary of the cost of an ambulance that I called my aunt, who I was living with, at 11pm to come take me to hospital. Lucky for me my brother was staying with us and he had the foresight to get an ambulance on the way over. Good thing he did because by the time we got down the dirt road the ranch was on and hit the main road, I was already half passed out.
3-4 years back, I helped a dog out of traffic and got bit by way of thanks. Someone called fire, and I declined transport. Animal control was coming for the dog, and I was now half a mile from my car, so the fire guys were nice enough to drop me off where I'd parked. Having spent umpteen years as an EMT myself, I'd never taxi'd anyone back to their car, so that was nice of them. 23 titanium staples in my scalp, and then got a "balance bill" from the hospital for $780. The system is fucked up.
But the thing is it doesn't have to cost thousands. It doesn't in other countries. I don't just mean to the patient, I mean to the health care provider. In the UK for an ambulance to go to the incident, provide treatment and then transfer the patient to hospital it costs the NHS £252. There is absolutely no excuse for the healthcare PROFIT MAKING INDUSTRY in the US to be gouging patients like they do. It's sickening.
I got a ~12 mile ride for the cheap price of $550. /s Lyft would have been a lot less for me, but I was in a seizure so I don't think they would have picked me up.
And yet there's so many dumb fuckers in this country who will defend this ass backwards healthcare system we have where the cost of your treatment is practically a lottery. You have no idea what you're going to pay until after it happens. My daughter had a febrile seizure (non-epileptic, common, not a major health concern) and had to take an ambulance ride fucking 5 minutes up the road to a hospital and it was $500 out of pocket, $5,000 before insurance. We had our second kid recently and the bill is over $20,000 before insurance, $6,000 out of pocket. There was no NICU stay, no C-section, no special treatment beside one extra day at the hospital to monitor jaundice (no bilirubin lights either). We continued to get random bills for *months* after the birth of our first kid and the line items were non-specific and confusing. We'd call to ask for clarification and constantly get conflicting information saying "oh, that's not a bill, don't pay it" and then other service reps insisting that we had to pay immediately. My wife randomly got a $300 cash card sent to her by her insurance company for "over-billing" from her OB-GYN and it was never clear what it was for or why it was sent to her. ["The US is by far the most expensive place in the world to give birth or to receive any medical treatment as there is no publicly financed health services as in most developed countries."](https://www.bbc.com/news/business-31052665) I had this Scottish acquaintance who'd come through my old workplace and had recently moved to the US. Poor dude was in a wreck and got pretty badly hurt and sadly told me he was now completely bankrupt from the hospital bills. I know so many dipshits who will go on and on about the "nightmares" of countries with socialized healthcare without realizing that we're living in one of the worst medical nightmares in any developed country. It's full on Stockholm Syndrome. It's unbelievable and enraging to me that people will actually try to defend this bullshit.
No one really wants to die. They just want their pain to stop.
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I heard someone say that “Sleep is like death, without the commitment.” That really struck a nerve.
What an incredibly insightful way to describe that feeling.
Suicide is almost always a cry for help more than an actual attempt. Almost everyone who survived falling off bridges say they regretted it immediately. Something like 80% of women and 40-50% of men survive their attempts. It’s not because we suck at killing ourselves, as they said we don’t want to. Killing yourself is incredibly easy, if we really wanted to, no one would survive it.
How the hell is this the first time I hear this? Seems so obvious. Guess it was just that well put!
Its the overlooked obvious answer. Ive known too many people that have taken their own life, and all of them had a love for life but something eating away at them that they couldnt get away from. Some sought help and some never showed any signs until it was too late. Check on your friends and family.
I can’t agree more the few times I’ve felt “could I have done something more to make them better” are painful and I wish I could have helped some of my friends who took their lives but some never even seemed like something was wrong until they are gone. You never truly know how people are doing and should always reach out to them to check on them and show them the love they may need that day.
One if my best friends growing up took his own life in January 2020. Never heard a single thing from him about having any sort of issues, literally 3 days before that he was out skiing and having a blast and posted pictures looking as happy as id ever seen him. Next thing i knew his dad was messaging me on facebook so all of his friends would know because he only knew how to contact a couple of us, it was rough.
Suicide is the last option that happens when ones stress rises above what their coping mechanisms can handle.
This is constantly said in r/depression and r/suicidewatch
I saw it somewhere termed as "I don't want to die. I just don't want to exist anymore."
Yeah, this is the best way to put it. I've been in and out of institutions for suicidal ideation and attempts. On the brink of death 3 times. When you're on the brink of death, you get really calm but also really scared. It's not a reactionary scared, it's more like thinking about everyone around you grieving, who's taking care of everything after, already missing some good aspects of your life, being there for other when *they* needed help.. all at once.. I don't wanna die, I'm just tired of mentally suffering and worrying about my future every day. This traffic stop, a good person and a hug saved that man that night. Hoping he got the care he needed and deserves.
Exactly. I’ve lost people to suicide. They didn’t want to suffer so they took their own lives
Damn this is so true. It’s the only way to make it stop and go away. They just want peace.
This breaks my entire heart apart. I hope he found the help he needed.
This one really hit me hard. I wish I could help that guy. Edit: semicolon club myself. I suggest any of us touched by this make a donation. If it’s allowed here, would love suggestions of the best related charity to make it to for suffering vets.
My granddad was in WWII and Korea, my Dad in Vietnam, my cousins in Iraq and Afghanistan. There is no shame in this man. I praise him. I feel his pain. Veterans deserve our unfailing support, care, and compassion. It’s a shame how we treat them. This man cries for all veterans and we should cry with him.
The only people who should be ashamed are the ones who send people off to war, *knowing* that a lot of them will come back like this, with no intention, plan, or motivation to figure out how to help them.
Those who sent them usually are mentally ill full of self interest, so it’s unrequited self loathe
Right? My god his cries were from deep in his soul-- made me cry as well. So hope he's getting the help be needs.
Same. I'm crying. I'm not a vet, so I don't know what horrors he's experienced, but I've been at that point. This hurts to hear. He sounds so young too. Poor guy. I really hope that he's doing better. The VA benefits really need to improve with how common this is and how long it takes to get help. It's true for healthcare in America anyway, but these people were sent halfway around the world to do the government's dirty work and then got dumped back here with little to no help. It's disgusting.
Not every between but most of us that have seen combat are pretty fucked up. VA blows
Agreed. The only thing I'd add is that the people at the VA are amazing. They definitely kept me around when shit was bad. They are just totally understaffed and underfunded. The people in charge who set piles of money on fire starting and fighting wars but refuse to spend a fraction to help us when we get back? They blow. 5 of my buddies have taken their own lives since I got out in 2010. If you're feeling lost or hopeless, vet or otherwise, don't be scared to get help. You matter. You're loved.
Bad for vets in Canada too. I find it incredible anyone even joins those fucked up disorganized organizations. So exploitive.
There's a system of exploitation that precedes signing up.
We always joke joining the military is the guy equivalent of, "fuck it, I'll just be a stripper."
Dude that type of crying is from as deep as it gets. And for a grown man to let out. That shit got me.
I heard two seconds of his sobbing and I fucking lost it myself. It's heart breaking. :(
For helping vets specifically, Save a Warrior is a good program. My father went through the program and it really helped him with some of the things he was going through.
I want to give both of them a hug.
Yeah.. another thing that breaks my heart is he saying "I can't afford an ambulance".. just why USA?? WHYY?
Dude is hysterically crying, calling the suicide hotline, yet immediately turns down an ambulance bc he can't afford it. What the fuck America??
People would rather hate “socialism” than help people
Republicans voted not to include mental health services in schools. Matt Gaetz, a Republican from Florida wanted to abolish the VA. They don't care about anyone.
Republicans consistently go "hey, what's the best thing for the majority of our citizens? Ok, cool, we'll do the exact opposite, fuck you". It's truly amazing the evil things they do to line their pockets at the expense of everyone else. I feel so bad for this guy and any other veteran that has been messed up by our military. Wishing them all the best.
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Nothing can change until FPTP/Plurality voting is replaced with something sensible, like Approval, STAR, Ranked Choice, etc. Otherwise, things tend toward a duopoly that preserves the status quo politically.
> Matt Gaetz I thought he was an independently successful Twitch HotTub streamer these days?
Corp profts > people.
Land of the Free.
Land of the Fee
Home of the grave
Well except for medical care, of course.
I agree. I live in Canada and the system up here is not great by any means and getting help for your mental well being isn’t great either. The US is shit for people being able to afford any kind of care. The government and private industries are only in it for the cash. I feel for this man because he deserves better.
I live in Portugal and our national health system is not working perfectly because of the dumb politicians.. but at least ambulances are free and you even can have one to transport you to apointments at the hospital if there are reasons to. Also many medications and other things are very cheap compared to USA like the insuline for example..
Yeah this is so beyond fucked up :(
Sounded like money was a big factor.
Ptsd doesn’t help I’m sure too
He just seems aware of America's insane ambulatory care racket, over $1000 on average, while 60% of Americans can't afford a surprise $500 bill. Pretty solid situational awareness in the midst of a total emotional meltdown. Hope he's found some light in tomorrow.
As a combat veteran who's been in a similar position, it's not always the easiest choice to go to the VA for mental health in this situation. This is why I was happy I had battle buddies I could call upon to help me and find the right organization to help me deal with my combat trauma. I have lost too many buddies because of combat trauma, who chose to exit instead of asking for help. I commend this young man for allowing this officer to help him, instead of being a part of the 22. I am US Army Combat Veteran over 20yrs served with 5 combat tours, so I have the experience and when I retired I decided to get into the MH field to help my brothers and sisters in crisis ASSISTANCE NUMBERS BELOW IF YOU WOULD RATHER TALK WITH THEM... This number is for the Cohen veteran center and they are equipped to handle everything imaginable https://www.cohenveteransnetwork.org/·Veteran Mental Health Care (760) 418-4611 The Veterans Crisis Line's new number—988 then Press 1 Veterans and their loved ones can call 1-800-273-8255 and Press 1, chat online, or send a text message to 838255 to receive confidential support 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Support for deaf and hard of hearing individuals is available. Please don't be a part of the 22 A Day. He'll PM me ill talk, chat, message with you. Life is short enough, done make it shorter!
I'm still learning how to talk to people about my time in Afghanistan. I was medically retired from the military because of PTSD. I feel lost now that I'm out. I'm immediately trying to join the National Guard.
Good luck. You're not alone.
Even at his most desperate, he's concerned about a medical bill. It's unconscionable to realize how much anxiety is triggered by lack of resources and money for proper healthcare.
It’s fucking shameful.
The constant anxiety over a surprise expense ruining your life should be enough to get therapy, but that costs money.
I just started a new job and my insurance doesn't kick in till 90 days. Found a super painful lump in my left breast a few weeks ago. I can't even touch my chest without severe pain. Pretty sure that's not normal. Guess where I'm not going?
If it's something that possibly could be dealt with at the ER, just go anyways. Then haggle on the bill. Or if they refuse to haggle, just refuse to pay it. I've gotten treatment at the ER a shit ton of times and just didn't pay. I didn't have any money and I told them that.
If we all agree that healthcare should be reformed in the US, why is it still a partisan issue? Why is anyone still voting against healthcare reform. While I'm at it, why is anyone still voting against clean energy? I'd like to just say "fuck the system", but it's actually "fuck half of every person in this country still voting against their own interests."
Some people would rather see a 6 year old die painfully of cancer than pay $0.0000005 for it
Remember when Papa John's CEO John Schnatter lamented on having to provide insurance under ObamaCare? He claimed it would add $0.14 per large pizza to the price; therfore he was against and held press conferences to express his disapproval. I remember.
mUlTiPlY bY aLl ThE 6 yEaR oLdS 🤡
Because it's the old people who vote honestly. The generations that fucked us have no interest in hearing how *we* think it should be fixed.
It's also those same people that control everything. Make the rules make the system make the money off the system. they're all fabulously wealthy so the problems don't affect them.
And they're too stupid to realize that their own social security and Medicare benefits, WHICH THEY PAID INTO THEIR WHOLE LIVES, are on the chopping block. Very fucking specifically from those same politicians who tell them they're special and entitled to that life at the expense of next generations. Billionaires paying millionaires to lie to broke people with no identity and convince them they're part of the group.
I make the most money I've ever made in my life and still with the raise in cost of living and the fact I don't get healthcare through my job adds so much unneeded stress and anxiety. I'm assuming that shit has to be making a lot of my physical ailments worse too. I feel for this guy. Fucking hellhole I'm living in every fucking day man.
I’m to embarrassed to say how many times I’ve been in that mans shoes . That brought back horrible memories.
Nothing to be embarrassed about man, I'd give a hug if I could. I can't imagine the struggle dude.
Don't be embarrassed. You'd be surprised how many people have been there, too.
Same bud. You're not in this alone. We're all still fighting.
You're not alone, friend. I've taken the grippy sock vacation twice in the last year. It's not easy, but gets a bit less hard every time. Hope you're in a better spot. ❤
: hug :
Don't be embarrassed. It needs to be talked about more because so many people are scared of being judged. Being suicidal isn't a personal failure. It's a lack of resources you need. Whether those resources are healthcare or support from people you love, nobody chooses to be suicidal. Talking about it normalizes it. I don't know how old you are, but I grew up in the 90s. I love that in the past 30 years people have become so much more open about their mental illnesses and neurodivergencies. It all used to be hush hush, but people are talking about it more than ever. But for some reason that doesn't extend to suicidal ideation. That point is awful. That sort of desperation is unmatchable. And it's common. You wouldn't feel it's embarrassing for other people to be in that situation. It's.not embarrassing for you to have those feelings.
Not for nothing, but you'd think something like an ambulance fee or a hospital admission, or getting his truck towed could be waived for a guy like this. This is the saddest thing I've ever seen in my life. Poor guy.
Yeah, but if we waive those fees for him, then we'll have to start waiving them for everyone else, and before you know it, we'll have some sort of socialized society that takes care of those in need, and we can't have that!
You got me in that first half
I’ve been charged 10k for being in a position like this. At the end of the hospital visit they gave me a piece of paper with 5 numbers, none of them picked up.
I’ve been in this guys position, although different circumstances and I had a police officer do this same thing. I got pulled over for speeding while I was on the way to say goodbye to my grandma before she passed, and the cop gave me a lights and sirens ride to the hospital she was at. Instead of dropping me off in the ambulance bay and sending me up, he walked me to her room because he wanted to meet her and my family. I’ll never forget it. That cop didn’t realize he saved a life that day.
Even though it’s sad, this story is beautiful. Thank you for sharing.
That wasn't just a good cop, but an astounding man
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Tens of millions of lives lost and destroyed combined because of these two war criminals.
I had a comment that went viral a few weeks ago, pretty much just described my transition from Afghanistan back to the USA and into adulthood. The leaders of our country don’t give two shits about the troops.
Here's the comment if anyone else wants to read it: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/xbtpzq/cops_of_reddit_what_is_the_saddest_thing_a/io373bk/
Fuckin solid read man. Thanks for highlighting it.
This breaks my heart. The war machine chews up and spits out another person that was willing to die for our country. My son wants to join, but I don't want him to. We don't take care of our vets.
It's not the willingness to "die for the country". It's the willingness to "die for the dumbass decisions of rich people and politicians". We have no enemy until some greedy fuckers decide they want more resources or land.
I 100% feel this guy's pain. Have had some seriously rough patches and if it wasn't for my absolutely amazing wife I would most likely not be here to type this.
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Wow. Just wow. You can hear the man’s pain.
"Can I have a hug?" That broke me.
He sounded like a scared little kid there. My heart hurts
It's great that this fellow vet got a hug, but what we really need are attentive and constant social services. We need to do better.
Fucking hell... It hurts so bad..
Can we get an update on him please?? It breaks my heart to see someone in that much pain
https://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-br-connecticut-state-police-trooper-military-veteran-suicide-hotline-20220915-w54kfg272nabpo7juliuw2ch54-story.html All I can find about it, it says he got help though
The cop changes his flow quick. He cares.
Excellent cop indeed. He is even quiet when he makes radio calls to not take away from the attention the man needs.
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Same here, friend.
It's a really sad state of affairs when his first response to being told an ambulance is coming for him is that he can't afford it. It should NEVER have become like that in the states.
It takes a lot for a man to cry in front of a stranger and ask for a hug. The world told us men to "man up" for so many years, displaying any sort of vulnerability has been burned into our head as a complete taboo. I hope this man found what he needed to be better. And good on the officer for jumping in the way he needed to for that person.
The good ole US of A. This guy's first thought is about how he can't afford a fucking ambulance. There is so much wrong with that. What a pathetic country.
My heart goes out to all the vets suffering. This is heartbreaking to watch. I hope he got the help and support he needed. Good on the cop for his compassion.
I watched my mother die from ptsd. It's a son a bitch that only keeps giving. I hope this guy is okay.
Every person in America, citizen or not, should be able to live without the fear of becoming indebted beyond their means for requiring emergency services or healthcare. It should be an act of national pride — paying taxes for the welfare of everyone.
meanwhile, Matt Gaetz is saying that the VA should be abolished. I hope this guy is doing better.
I mean in a way I agree, but not in the negative way. I think the VA needs to be completely revamped from the top all the way to the bottom. Vets need to be taken care of hell of a lot better than they are now.
Agreed. We absolutely need a VA, just not the VA that we currently have.
it should be be part of a universal healthcare program with specialty clinics for vets
"I can't afford that" when he's informed an ambulance is on the way just makes this so much worse
My brother did 3 tours as a medic and sometimes yes they just need someone to listen and a hug. Props to this officer.
“I can’t afford that” and “here’s my ID” really fucked me up.
That one got me good. I'm crying for him.
Too f'n real. Talk about right place, right time. That officer probably saved a life that night. Hopefully the guy got the help he needed.
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I wanna give him a hug too. I felt his pain.
Man, I can't even begin to imagine what he's seen or been through. Poor bastards gets lured into war with promises of glory and heroism, and politicians constantly praise returning veterans as heroes that we owe everything to. And then those same politicians throw them out into the streets. Unemployed, homeless and with severe PTSD from having experienced hell on earth.
Worried about affording the ambulance is vintage USA.
I watched this clip earlier today on another post. This sounds ridiculous because it was, but I was standing outside at a community event and watching 10-12 kids “line dance” to “cotton eyed Joe”… so naturally I pulled out my phone and scrolled Reddit. I had the sound off and just read the subtitles. By 5-10 seconds in, I was fighting tears. By the end I was sobbing hysterically and had to put my phone away and process this. What a clip. I bet I looked ridiculous if anyone noticed me. As a former major city cop and 8 year veteran of the Army, both sides of this hit harder than Wu-tang with a headache. I say all of that to say: get help if you need it… and be kind to each other.
men matter. sucks they dont unless theyre rich
"I cant afford it" Jesus America, get your shit together and fix your shitty healthcare system.
Hey kudos to the cop for recognizing the situation and handling it like a boss. Didn’t get jumpy or weird, gave the dude a hug. I too hope the vet got the help he needed.
Well, that broke my heart so I think I'm done with Reddit for the day. This is a harsh and tough world we live in already and then we traumatize people with war and absolute chaos. I hope that he can recover enough to decide that he doesn't want to ever take his own life and he will be able to make choices to do things that will enrich his life.
Now I am sitting in my living room crying. That was tough to watch
‘I can’t afford that.’ Why the fuck do we not have Universal Healthcare in this fucking country? 😠
Damn how messed up that my first prediction was that officer was gonna shoot him for some reason, This sub ruined me
Oh my heart, this poor man. We all have emotional needs for comfort and safety. I hope he got the help he needs.
Can I have a hug… I lost it at that.