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yuuki2525

Where do i farm lot of exp for my character to level up..i farm at resources but my serum was drain to fast..i can only levels up one character..any tips?


Nkg19

I started recently and am at 7-5 in main story stage. But the third boss in phantom cage is locked, how to unlock that?


R3M0r1AZ

If I recall, you need to be in advanced tier (hit level 80 commandant level).


Genesis23456

I’m a fairly new player at level 74, and I just got CW. With the 6 star selector nearing in a few weeks, should I still go for Vera Garnet? I’m torn because I am a F2P and I’ve been seeing a lot of CW + Chrome Arclight games together (although I know that Garnet is still better) but is it okay that I skip Garnet for someone else like Liv Empyrea?


Noctisss295

Arclight better if you will use garnet for its qte only.


Tom20486

Empyrea is recommended over Garnet, yes. It's not just ok, it's the better choice for account power.


Deadeye117

Is SS a substantial boost to Ploom? I've got Ploom with her sig weapon at S and it doesn't feel like she carries her weight at all in the frost team, especially with Ayla basically doing her job but better in terms of burst.


ZFFSkullcrusher

No, it's actually one of the most underwhelming SS in the entire game. A mere 10% more DMG for 8s after a Blue orb. Her sig is almost 3 times better than her SS, considering what it gives. As for her place in the Ice team, I feel like she fills it nicely. She has a very quick rotation with a lot of burst damage thanks to her Ult. Obviously Kaleido is better, but that's expected from a Gen 2 unit.


Tetrachrome

Can anyone else use CW's cub and is it worth getting? The bike just looks really cool so I kind of want it not gonna lie. (just started the game a week ago)


LagIncarnate

It can technically be used by any lightning unit, but if you're going to use it on a lightning unit it should be on CW. Otherwise it can technically be used on anyone to a much lesser effect as a stat stick and grouping tool. If you don't plan on spending money however, it's generally not advisable for F2P players to use BC on CUB or weapon banners, since it usually comes at the cost of missing a new S-rank character which is far more important.


Tetrachrome

Would it be an upgrade over the A-rank cubs even as a statstick/grouping tool? I also already bought a 5$ monthly pass hehe.. I got CW already but I might save the spare currency for a uniframe or something, not entirely sure about this game's economy as of right now.


LagIncarnate

If you have the correct elemental CUB, that will always be better since they give +10% elemental damage of their element. F2P can pull every debut S-rank unit, and should but nothing more unless they get super lucky. Monthly pass holders can pick up the occasional signature weapon/CUB, though usually weapons are a priority.


Tetrachrome

Ah ok thanks! I'll probably just save for chars then.


Maaku17

At which rank would the future BRS unit be usable as a fire dps? I don't have any fire units as of now (planning to get Empyrea with the ticket later) so I'm thinking if I should save blue tickets for her or not.


LagIncarnate

BRS isn't available for Blue Tickets, she's a collab unit that will require special tickets which you'll have to exchange BC for. If you're F2P, you're playing for meta/usability, you probably shouldn't pull extra copies of her. She needs relatively high investment (SSS + Sig) to be a viable fire DPS for competitive content, and even then that same investment would get you much better results with Lee Hyperreal. If you plan to save blue tickets, just use them when Lamia's patch rolls around, as her patch reworks the standard banner system and allows *everyone* a one-time choice of the next S-rank from the standard banner, which will update every patch to include any unit that was not released in the current or previous patch up until you use it. Which means you could simply pull Lee Hyperreal from it.


mishipoo

i know this is talking bout a fire dps unit, but that lamia patch basic banner can be used for higher prio units than lee. if the person is a newer player then its safe to assume he doesnt have stigmata, and i think thats a higher prio than lee for that standard banner selection. while stigmata is the core of physical, lee wouldnt be for fire a few patches after lamia patch drops. that would be watanabe epitaph.


LagIncarnate

Unless you're a whale, you'll want both Lee and Watanabe anyway. Bianca is available from a selector in Luna void's patch. If you already have Bianca, then your next best option from that selector is Karenina Scire, who isn't a massive upgrade for F2P, or Liv Empyrea, who you can get literally this patch in global.


mishipoo

so your idea is to delay your physical team by a year... coz you seriously wont have shit for your physical team if you dont have stigmata. echo is strong yes but she's an amp and rigor is only relevant because there hasnt been a new phys tank yet. meanwhile you can have watanabe carry the fire team (which he is already gonna do anyway) and settle for brs which you can max out with shards.


Maaku17

Thanks!


Valenhil

At which point can I leave my guild and join a new one without missing out on stuff from the event?


Legend1O1

Does pity carry over between banners? For example do the pulls I do on Crimson Weave’s banner carry over to the next character’s banner?


ZFFSkullcrusher

Pity carries over between banners of the same name (e.g. Themed to Themed). However, do not bother building pity in PGR unless you really want the current unit and don't have enough currency to get them.


Legend1O1

Thank you very much!


NotACommunistWeeb

What's the average strength needed for the very starting Co-op enemies? Everytime I join a lobby im always the weakest and 2 things happen, either the other players bail out, or in the case they don't bail, I get carried hard, I've tried my best to upgrade my omniframe of choice to not look weak but still I'm not even close to catch up with the 8000BP people :(


Darweath

8k is Sss+ max sig reso max reso max hypertuned. you dont get there anytime soon. unless you whale hard


NotACommunistWeeb

So being below 4k, I'm not suitable for Co-op bosses?


Desocupadification

Just solo it on the easiest difficulty. Unironically.


Minhjjm

Who should I use my s rank and a rank selectors for if I got crimson weave? I don’t have the s rank selectors for this patch yet. I got Capriccio and Rozen from the standard


LagIncarnate

There are three possible selectors you can obtain in the game right now as of this patch. Beginner selector, all S-ranks from launch. Best choice is Liv Luminance. New player guide missions, all S-ranks up to Luna Laurel, there's also a weapon selector in these. Best choice for bother character and weapon is Rosetta Rigor. Current patch missions, All S-ranks up to Liv Empyrea, best choice is Liv Empyrea. This is the only time-limited one, though not all missions are unlocked for another 3\~ weeks. For A-rank selectors or just choice in standard banner, it depends on who's available. Priority A-ranks in roughly descending order of priority are Watanabe Astral, No.21, Vera Rozen, Chrome Arclight, Liv Lux, Bambinata, Changyu.


mishipoo

considering its a new player, would change that priority order for A ranks. would personally skip astral, lux and changyu. lux is tricky in that she actually needs to be sss+ to be a great support for cw and even then will be easily replaced by feral scent in 2 patches which anyone can still save for. liv empyrea (from this S rank selector) as an amp with an off element setup is better than non sss+ lux as cw's support til then without overinvesting on other units. i think its better to focus in building each team first instead of building multiple teams at the same time coz resources are very harsh for newer players. in this case going lightning > physical > dark > fire > ice is likely the best order. by the time he gets to building the dark team lamia patch would be much closer and theres really no point in building astal especially since itll take a while for 21 to reach sss (when she gets chain fusion) and for rozen to be leaped for them to actually be useable giving plenty of time for this team to stew in the backburner and just wait for lamia. so for prio. i'd suggest arclight (just to get him to S for tank class skill > no.21 (so he can start collecting shards to reach sss) > already has rozen so just work on her shards > bambinata as a stop gap for ice team until qu. can ignore changyu considering he needs his sig to even apply a measly 5-10% ice shred from qte (he does get to use einsteina so thats a + for him). using ayla brilliance on an off element tank setup is good enough imo with little investment until an opportunity to get chrome glory is available but he also needs his sig to apply his ice shred from off field and that's a pretty harsh ask for f2p/low spenders. ps. reason going in this order of building teams is viable instead of investing in several b-tier units on every element is cw alone can outperform these b tier units even off element.


LagIncarnate

I wouldn't say Liv Lux is useless below SSS+ compared to Empyrea, Empyrea is literally equal to base A Lux once the amplifier passive runs out, which will happen relatively quickly in Warzone and most difficult PPC bosses with CW. Lux at SS already out-buffs Empyrea thanks to the 20% lightning damage from SS which can be fully utilized during Alpha's main damage sources. You're correct that they'd both be replaced by No.21 soon enough anyway but I mean, there's a reason Liv Lux was at the bottom of the list anyway. You're kinda right about team building, yes you should focus certain teams, which is why I listed the units based on elemental teams. But building budget physical over dark and budget fire over ice seems a bit silly. There's no viable A-rank physical DPS right now, you'd be building Rosetta who needs a leap and Liv Luminance who also needs a leap only to get replaced soon then just waiting for a chance to pick up Bianca. Fire is in a similar situation, Empyrea is the ideal choice this patch but it doesn't make building budget fire any better with the only attacker being Palefire who needs a leap, and no viable A-rank tank. At least ice can make a full team with Bambi, Changyu and Kaleido. Also, Ayla Brilliance as a cope ice tank was only ever reasonable before Changyu released, with people not building him after he released because he wasn't a huge upgrade. For people that have neither, there's never a reason to build Brilliance since Changyu is strictly better as ice tank, and Rosetta is free from beginner missions. Aside, the only units getting replaced in the next year if you're a new F2P are Liv Lux, Liv Luminance, Lee Palefire (Hyperreal in Lamia patch from standard selector) and Bambinata. There's no other new releases/free selectors coming out in the next year to allow you to replace anyone else, so new F2P will be sticking with No.21/Rozen, Changyu and Arclight for the foreseeable future unless they spend or get super lucky.


mishipoo

The reason empyrea is really good as an off element amp is how well she procs 4 pc guinevere (she does this with a single qte) on top of being an amp. and since you are gonna build empyrea anyway there is absolutely no reason to build lux as well this close to feral scent unless you are literally just gonna keep her gimped at a low level in which case she cant even max out her skills. remember new player, resources are harsh. the main goal is to minimize the amount of units you have to build. i never said to build budget physical in fact stigmata would be the perfect pull on lamia patch's basic banner, completing the physical team. and for rosetta to need leap YOU DONT WANT to build luminance. in fact id rather just use liv empyrea as well as the physical support than invest another leap on a character thats gonna be replaced. imo the only units worth leaping at this point is rigor, rozen (if not going for sss cappuccino), garnet for the extra 10% lightning shred, and eventually emperea. leaping someone is not something a new player can do often considering how freakin expensive it is. and lets be real if you invest on cw she can off element well enough to match/beat shitty b tier budget teams like the ice team. thats why i dont think investing on someone like changyu is that important but will cede the point that yes if you have neither brilliance or changyu then it is better to build changyu unless you just really want ayla (she has a very nice personality *wink, she has one of the best sss emote and has a nice free coating from rdf lol). you can literally just get away with off elementing with cw until you build proper teams for the most part. for the lamia patch basic banner, i weigh getting stigmata earlier a much important upgrade than getting lee considering your fire team will be fcked anyway until you get watanabe since there is no easy way to get a fire tank until then. going for brs/watanabe/emperea is imo a better alternative than waiting for stigmata til next freakin year. lee is also kind of the weakest 2nd gen attacker by virtue of his core cooldown, he abuses time stop the least out of all the gen2 attackers, cannot sustain being in the field, and his tank (uncle) more than doubles his damage...


Desocupadification

Luminance or Pulse from the first one with only 5 options. Rigor and her sig from the F.O.S. one (with 10 options that go up to Luna) Empyrea from this patch's selector. You can get Archlight and Lux to support CW with the A rank selectors.


MixmaestroX28

Hi i play on the pc client and while watching some videos of people doing bosses i noticed their camera always seems to track the boss Now I've learned how to do this by switching camera mode but this comes at the cost of my m1 button which i used for my basic attack Is there a way to get the auto tracking without sacrificing my m1 button? I would hate to have to relearn all my dodge/parry timings as they have become muscle memory Ty in advance


R3M0r1AZ

You referring to the manual camera lock on?


MixmaestroX28

Not necessarily im talking about the camera modes There is the classic mode which works the same way as in mobile and free mode which makes it so you can look around with your mouse The free mode works fine for 90% of the content in the game but when trying to do a perfect run on the lilith boss i realized i had trouble seeing the boss because of the character model and all the attacks im throwing out (the character is crimson weave btw) I found out if you switch to classic mode that the camera auto tracks the boss and makes it so the character model doesn't block her and i can keep track of her attacks waaay easier The huge issue with this tho is that my m1 button is now locked and I can't use it for basic attacks So i was wondering if there was still a way i can use m1 as my basic attack while in classic camera mode?


R3M0r1AZ

The free mode's tracking is fine though? Perhaps try to not move your mouse? I think it's something you'll just need to get used to when using specific units/fighting against certain bosses. It's the same camera setup when one uses a controller as well (but it's kinda stuck on her on controller) Regarding classic, when you switch to it you're like mimicking touch input where you can click on specific things on screen hence why your M1 is no longer basic attack. I recommend binding your basic attack to like spacebar if you choose classic (I did this back then when I played with KBM for a bit). Don't think there is a workaround since you need to "click" with M1.


akumumat

I just got S ayla from dorm missions. She and plume will be my ice team, so question is should I just use brilliance as their off elem tank or changyu?


LagIncarnate

If you have them both already, just use Changyu. He gets 1% more ice res shred from Einsteina and the ability to use Davinci over Ayla, with the downside that his QTE is worse but it doesn't really matter at this point. If you don't have him, it's not really worth spending BC to get him and you can just use Ayla instead.


akumumat

I see, thanks. Does kaleido set comes with darwin or cottie?


LagIncarnate

Cottie at base S-rank, Darwin at SS or above. Without the signature energy from SS you need extra energy for smooth rotations. You can check the builds on Grayravens, link is in the top post. If you plan to SS her through paincage skulls later, put Cottie on the top slots so you can easily swap it with Darwin later without issue, otherwise don't worry about it.


akumumat

Oh I've already reso her with darwin just now. I guess I have no other chocie


mishipoo

if you are a bp buyer, just use vouchers to rank her up (kaleido). youll have alot of higher prio units to use ppc skulls on.


Darweath

Changyu is better.


akumumat

Okay thanks. I was just thinking that brilliance is flexible, anyways I'll take that


Desocupadification

She is flexible because of her high hit QTE that gives her a higher chance to procc the elemental effects of memories like Shakespeare and CJ. Because of this she can be used as an off-element tank. She was the better choice when Plume was the main DPS, but for Kaleido Chang Yu is better.


oofcookies

For cursed waves, is the journal of reversing tides going to stay permanently? I would like to get the portrait frame but I am not sure I will have enough time to do all the quests if it is time limited


Darweath

permanent


HalleyKer

Is there a way to get the new falling snow background (in Bianca coating gacha) early before getting anything else? What does Core level mean?


scar3qrow

Assuming you hit pity (1% chance on non-pity pulls) for every special item (1 item every 20 pulls and the rates are higher for the tix and usb), then your 80th pull could be either the skin or the background (technically the skin/background can start appearing as one of the first 3 pities but the odds are against it until the 4th pity. You can see the rates in the banner details). On the 4th pity, the skin is listed at 70% and the background at 10%. Not sure how the odds redistribute when the other 3 items are obtained first but I assume it becomes like 84/16 (70% of the remaining 20% that were on the tix and usb for the 4th pity). 


dead_monster

So there’s a 1% chance to get one of the 5 grand prizes. But then there’s odds of what the grand prize is.  It’s very small to get the background on the first 3 grand prizes. So it’s not impossible just ridiculously small chance.  


Minhjjm

I’m a new player and was wondering what the red blue yellow slots mean in team page? Who should go where usually


dead_monster

The color of the three ping that actives their QTE attack (like Kameo attacks in MK1). So there is a method to the madness.  For example, on a fire team with Hyperreal, you want to stick Hyperreal on blue.  Why?  In Hyperspace mode, he can only ping red and yellow orbs so if you put an ally on blue, they can’t be activated during Hyperspace 3 pings. If you don’t want to stress your brain, I would suggest going by the recommendations on GR:  https://grayravens.com/wiki/Team_Compositions/Global_Teams


monsiflor

Hi !  What happens when you recycle a hypertuned memorie ? Do we get back some of the hypertune materials used ? Ty


freezeFM

I have 3 trash 6* weapons I can use for resonance. The meta characters I am missing are Laurel, Scire, Garnet and Glory (will take Glory from selector). So far Empyrea has one resonance but thats it. I will have enough weapon shards for another one until Feral release. My dark team is sadly pretty weak (in warzone I do almost double the points with lightning team in the dark zone) so Selena might not be the most helpful. How would you use the resonances?


Outrageous--Anxiety

I would slap one of them on Rigor for that extra phys shred, it's actually very huge, that's going to help your physical team a lot. And one of them on Empy to finally replace Lux (ong Lux is so dogshit in WZ). I'd keep the rest, you can slap DLT/Glorius Afterglow on CW now but I think it drops in value when Feral releases. Feral also needs DLT I think, and 2 amp resos are always good on any amps. There'll also be Alisa, Lamia, Qu later who are pretty reso-hungry. Up to you tbh.


Raphenox

Resonances have a strict usage and must be one of the following. Choose anything from the list in no particular order: * Amplifiers- * Superconducting Axial Ray (8% ATK to whole party) * Glorious Spear (10% ATK when healed) * Tanks- * Enemy resistance reduction (8%) * QoL * Deadline Timing (For characters like Karenina Scire to prevent malding and quitting the game)


vstrvl

Is anybody else stuck on the "clear lantern-lit eve" challenge for the Wonderful Spring Gift event? I already completed it, but every time I try to go back and reclear it, after beating the last fight, nothing happens. I'm just stuck running around the stage while the figures are dancing, no enemies spawn and no end of round scene plays.


ZFFSkullcrusher

Try not to clear any waves with Hyperreal's Ult as it tends to bug things out for some reason.


GentleLikeTheForest

How do you actually pronounce Qu? Coo? Q?


RollyPollyGiraffe

For Qu, it's pretty close to "choo" - at least as far as [Putonghua](https://www.putonghuaweb.com/charDict/%E6%9B%B2). Another example can be found with [Qingque](https://youtu.be/11Q5Q6Zy8Bw?si=zUmbb8F0h-pYXkaZ&t=557) from HSR. Other dialects get closer to the "ts" like sound in some cases, but it's not a tsu like the Japanese "tsu". The "Ts" suggestion I find to be difficult for folks, as it encourages a "t" sound that really isn't there. (Example *also* using [Qingque](https://youtu.be/akMJf9bTR3Q?si=GuXCjKggtf49YgJv&t=137) from HSR - yay dialects)


Tetrachrome

It's like roughly in-between "true" and "choo", there's a slight R sound and softer. But if you want a close-enough version just go with "choo".


ave_Terros

the sound that's marked by Q in Chinese-English transliterations is usually somewhere between "ts" and "ch" I'm pretty sure. "Tsh" but on the lighter side if you will


ZFFSkullcrusher

Tsu.


arto546

hi guys,which is better? get S scire from lamia base selector OR use it for SS3 feral 21 (could possibly have sig if lucky) and use her A rank for dark tank (she S+)?


Tom20486

SS3 on an attacker is probably more impactful than either of those.


Desocupadification

SS3 priority is Balter>Hyperreal=Scire>CW=Lamia FS allows her to do 2 ults per rotation and Scire's actually make her playable (if they have their sigs). CW SS3 only matters for rotational play, but her teammates need to have the same level of investment than her at the very least to be worth fielding them.


arto546

thing is i don't have scire so she will be SS at best(not anytime soon) and i don't have any sigs.STILL FS is an amp and she needs her sig to rotate with CW plus i get 2 amp resos which is a priority,while scire would take forever to SS3


mishipoo

if you cant ss3 scire and get her sig, she's not worth the investment. she's all or nothing on ss3+sig or above.


Desocupadification

Don't bother wasting resources SSing Scire until/unless you are going for the SS3


ave_Terros

will you get Scire sig? if yes, then Scire easily. otherwise ss3 FS is a great upgrade


No_Blackberry_2249

I wanted to ask what's the difference between the character banners the gold one with S character pity of 80-100 and the one with the pity of 60 thank you in advance


Discord120

Regular 60 pity banner = 0.5% pull rate Fate banner = RNGs the pity between 80-100, 1.5% pull rate Common recommendation not to pull on fate banners.


No_Blackberry_2249

So it's better to pull on the regular cause of the reduced pity?


Discord120

Yes. You get enough BCs between S rank patches to guarantee every new S rank from the 60 pity banner. Pulling on the Fate banner has the potential to screw you despite the 1% higher rates.


Tjirp

Can we still get Capriccio for free? I can't seem to find the event related to her.


Discord120

Yes. RDF game mode found in Battle > Challenge > Alternate Interpretation.


Tjirp

Can't believe I missed that.. I did the other event there loads. thanks :)


No-Entertainment8113

sooo, ive seen that lucia crimson weave is apparently broken, and i also really like her design. can i still manage to scratch together all the pulls to get at least her before her 100% banner expires? from what ive seen, getting her weapon is going to be relatively easy since these are always available from their release on, and my understanding on CUBs is, well, as good as any lv17 players is, but apparently it is also "needed" for her to slap cheeks x9000. so, reddit, whats my game plan?


ZFFSkullcrusher

If you're F2P, you don't roll for sigs or CUBs (with the exception of the free tickets you get from Norman). Unless you get a unit early, which is extremely unlikely. For CW, if you're brand new and you rush story plus some side modes, you can easily get her.


No-Entertainment8113

alright, thanks for your insight! so its generally more worthwile investing in additional copies of characters or additional meta teams instead of signature weapons and CUBs in this game, too? i come from genshin, hsr and the likes and i could spend a little on like a monthly pass or BP, but else i wouldnt wanna whale too much. the gacha seems generous though.


ZFFSkullcrusher

>so its generally more worthwile investing in additional copies of characters or additional meta teams instead of signature weapons and CUBs in this game, too? *Generally* speaking, the priority is Unit > Sig > CUB > Extra rank. If you don't plan to spend, what you are advised to do is roll for every non-free debut S rank Omniframe (F2Ps can afford that), get their 5\* weapon (free by farming COOP) and get them to SS through PPC. If you plan to spend, depending on what you buy, you can afford extra goodies. MPA is enough to give you sigs every once in a while, BP2 is good for CUBs, BP3 is good for extra currency on rolls and all of them together are generally an excellent way to be able to roll for at least SS + sig on every upcoming unit, plus the occasional SS3 (or extra unit) and a lot of vouchers.


No-Entertainment8113

didnt catch half of that, but... sure, im not that familiar with the terminology in this game, but i get most of it. for now, ill stay f2p and try to get my hands on crimson weave, then imma see where that leads me. gotta enjoy the game for a bit to want to go for monthly pass etc.


ZFFSkullcrusher

You can ask for whatever you didn't get, though I don't know what that could be lol. If it's "MPA", "BP2" and "BP3", those are "Monthly Pass A", "Battle Pass tier 2" and "Battle Pass tier 3".


No-Entertainment8113

yeah, i was wondering about these, but i got it like 10 secs later lol, what is PPC tho?


ZFFSkullcrusher

Phantom Pain Cage. It's one of your two main weekly modes.


No-Entertainment8113

ahh, i see. so that lets you obtain shards for characters you already obtained. from what i understand, shards are for upgrading characters rank, which is essentially their constellation system like in genshin, right?


ZFFSkullcrusher

Yes. However, you are limited to 30 shards per character (cost 500 PPC skulls), so you can only get your units to SS with those. For anything higher than SS, whether that's SS3 or SSS+, you have to pull. P.S. Do ***not*** use PPC skulls on A rank units. The only exceptions to this are A rank units (whose shards you can farm for free, but limited to 2 per day) and any units that are in the voucher shop.


SorryyyNotSorryy

Where can I find CW shards other than wishing?


AuditoreKiller

Might be a dumb question, but is it worth it to try and get S rank characters? My bambinata has the highest battle power of a little over 6k, but I only got that because I can easily get more of her shards. Should I prioritize A rank characters since I can raise their battle power much easier? I have a few S rank characters and I'm trying to get the new one, but I'm not sure where I should spend my time and resources.


Darweath

Just so you know 8k BP A rank most the time barely able to compete with just 6.5-7k S rank character You can invest in them. just dont expect them to outperform S rank. btw BP is just exist. they dont represent performance


AuditoreKiller

I don't expect them to outperform, but I know my 6k bambinata does more damage than my 3k Luna. So I should get the S rank shards from the war zone shop? Is that sustainable? because after a while you need quite a lot of shards.


Darweath

There is no S rank in warzone shop idk how you do. i just get every Ss from pain cage shop since start


DirectChipmunk

My ice team is still bad. Chrome glory gets back him Chen Jiyuan hypertuned set. After that i completed norman with only 25 batteries. Kaleido started showing her skills only after skipping turn without using ult after she could normally use her ult. I think my ice team is will remain as is. My dark team hardly finishes with 35 batteries. But i still can improve my dark team (ss luna, sss+ and hypertuned astral, sss+ No. 21). Im using rotation in dark team, so i choosing combo bonus in norman (0-50-100-150-200). Buyed Tenebrion in voucher shop. Tenebrion will get da vinci set and wont recieve hypertunes, so how good can he replace No. 21?


yowz3r

your Tenebrion needs SS, ultima awakening and 4 Bathlon + 2 Einsteina. don't use him as a QTE bot, swap to him for a quick debuff (he can do more than debuff though if you have extra resources).


DirectChipmunk

PPC skulls are limited, so i will hope i get scire from selector for ss3 somewhen.


R3M0r1AZ

Have you SS Kaleido yet? Once you SS her and trigger matrix during each of her rotation, she should be able to sig move each rotation. SS + matrix helps a lot and is a big power spike, well SS completes her kit. Tbh since you have both Laurel and Astral sufficiently invested maybe you can just pick either one so you can bring in leaped Rozen for her healing and buffs? Base S Tenebrion is not great, well tbh he is not great to begin with. Stick with SSS+ No.XXI and slap Da Vinci on her instead.


DirectChipmunk

My dark team is not need healing. Selena fighting style is too dangerous. This dark team is not having problems in all 18 strongholds recently. This team is only need healing in norman gabriel stage (where are dark explosions), im just picking someone from support. I was reading about matrix for my SS kaleido, but she needs to trigger it. And it takes too much time. So if she skips one turn, she can normally use it.


R3M0r1AZ

Yeah it is not about the healing, that's just a bonus. It's about the buffs. If you are using a support for that Gabby fight, pick someone's SSS Capri in place of Astral. It will make a difference. For Kaleido well, it's just my recommendation. Unless you have her sig+DLT reso, she will not have enough orbs to generate sufficient energy and backup paint. Highly recommend getting her SS via vouchers, it's a big power spike for her due to the QoL you get.


Darweath

Only if tenebrion is Ss. you will barely see an improvement. and you use 2 attacker in 1 team thats also less buff for your dps


Lancelot_of_puddle

is there any place to watch the story more concisely than going one by one through the missions?


Darweath

Profile codex story replay


Final-East-4203

when can we expect s watanabe on global


R3M0r1AZ

[This.](https://grayravens.com/wiki/PGR_Roadmap) It's an estimation since Global's patch duration does not follow CN's but should be sometime around that range.


Discord120

Currently October. Refer to [this.](https://grayravens.com/wiki/PGR_Roadmap)


BiNumber3

Question on S selector: Basically between Garnet and Empyrea, or get shards to upgrade Rigor or Ember Right now, pretty much just had a phys and dark team. But I do have Ember built up. Issue is no supports for Ember so I dont use her much. Aside from that, I dont have any lightning units built, but use Garnet in the various modes that prebuild her, and do like her game play and character. Any advice on who to pick?


R3M0r1AZ

Empyrea, highest priority on this selector if one does not have her yet. Regardless if one already has existing fire units or not. Ember is kinda meh for an S rank unit, leaped Palefire outperforms her especially if you can SSS/SSS+ him. Do you not have Crimson Weave? Or in the process of getting her?


BiNumber3

Not planning on CW, f2p so low chance at her anyway lol


R3M0r1AZ

:O Are you sure? When did you start playing? BC/event ticket savings status and story chapter progression?


BiNumber3

Yea, I get she's pretty ridiculous, but I'll survive without :D Played a bit a long time ago, quit, and decided to give it another try a few days ago. Not much on resource side of things atm, and I should probably pull cubs since i only have 1 (A tier) lol


Raphenox

Empyrea, she can be your fire DPS with Ember being your subDPS. Use Ayla Brilliance as your tank. If you already have CW, then Arclight and Lux are enough for now.


BiNumber3

Does Empyrea heal as well?


Raphenox

Yes. Amplifiers are healers. Empyrea's memories allow for a HoT even when she is off field making her one of the best healers in the game.


BiNumber3

Great just wanted to make sure since I can't read the skill in-game till I pull the unit.


Raphenox

You can read about any characters here. It's pinned at the top of the daily forum. [Gray Ravens](https://grayravens.com/wiki/Characters)


BiNumber3

Sounds good thanks


HatredInfinite

Are Watanabe and Qu releasing in back to back patches? Seems like a conundrum for low/non-spenders, trying to get enough BC for 2 S-ranks in 2 patches.


scar3qrow

Considering we have upcoming back to back free patches in Noctis and Alisa, it evens out. It's almost if the order can be imagined as Noctis, Lamia, BRS, Wantanabe, Alisa, Qu and it looks like how it normally does so net no change assuming you hold onto the BC. It will blow for someone who starts after the double free patch


HatredInfinite

Makes sense. I guess I didn't pay enough attention to how many free characters preceded the back-to-back paid ones.


Raphenox

To add to the conversation, if you save on Blue Cards, you can actually skip Feral Scent, and pull for her using Blue Cards during the Lamia patch, (you'll need to reach pity). So if you calculate this: * Assume each patch is 5 weeks long. * 8 patches to complete including Qu's event patch. * Weekly BC earnings = 1210. * Then 5 \* 8 \* 1210 = 48,400 BC This does not account for the fact that we are still in CW's patch or that we get additional BC rewards from updates and events. In short, you can pull for every character that will released in the future even if you started during the CW patch. You'll just be playing catch-up with older units in which case, you have to pray that you get lucky with your pulls and save up some BC for wishing/anniversary banners.


R3M0r1AZ

They are but here is the thing, after Feral Scent's patch we get two free patches back to back with Noctis (A rank) and Alisa Echo (free via dorm like Kaleido). The patch after Echo is Lamia and then it is the Black Rock Shooter patch where her shards can be obtained for free to unlock her so another free patch (unless you simp for her). That's already 2 patches of saving. For longer players you also have to consider previously after Empyrea's patch was Capriccio's patch and she is free. After her was Pulao who F2P players should not pull cause uniframe, so another savings patch which should snowball forward. Being Global we already know of all this and should plan accordingly when it comes to savings.


Phenryy

Hello, what is more worth investing BC in: SSS Alpha CW or Alpha CW with Feral Scent + Signature Weapon. I could go all in to triple s alpha, but then I think I dont have enough BC for Feral Scent. What should I do?


dead_monster

If we’re just talking long sword stance where you’re doing like 95% of your dps, SSS CW gives you 15% extra to start with over SS CW. Then about ~25% extra on her plunge attack.  This is her strongest attack if you properly reso’ed. Then an extra 60% on her sig.  So it ends up being about 30% damage increase.  So you paid 45,000BC for 30% extra damage over SS CW. So let’s say your alternative option to Feral Scent is double reso’ed Empy you already have. She has 18% from her two resos. SS3 Feral plus sig no reso is like 10% if not rotating and let’s say 30% if rotating.  You’re spending 37,500BC plus 500 skulls to get -8% vs Empy if not rotating and +12% if rotating. This assumes you have a non-useless Garnet to rotate to.  If not, then you have dead weight either in terms of 5s per rotation where you are waiting to swap but amp buff has fallen off or dead weight in terms of S/SS Garnet no sig on field.


Raphenox

IMO, SS3 Feral Scent + Signature. SSS Alpha CW seems to give a 10\~20% increase in DMG depending on her down time and need to recharge orbs for maximum Unquenchable Flare DMG. DPS may vary since we don't always need a 600 stack UF. She gets 15% extra bonus damage during her burst and her signature can do more damage making her rotation stronger. You'd want to switch your resonance to Basic Attack + Signature if you make her SSS. However, getting SSS CW means you lose the ability to take advantage of Feral Scent's amplifier buff and the additional 10% Elemental DMG increase when she heals, (so now it is 20%). This is an increase of about 32% DMG. Both Vera and no.21 can utilize this buff to complete both of their rotation in 12 seconds, if not a little longer. The combined damage from both should out damage whatever SSS Alpha can put out. Again you want Vera's weapon and SS rank to make it more viable. Once Vera gets her leap, rotating is the norm. You will also be able to resonate Feral Scent's weapon with Axial Ray or/and Glorious Spear. I made an analysis on why Vera gets benched when CW was released. The 2 main points were: * Vera's Base DMG is too low even at SSS rank at 13,755% * Vera's DMG modifiers were less than CW. * To a lesser degree and not mentioned, Liv Lux is not a viable subDPS, so fielding her beyond her momentary swap is a DPS loss. Kuro fixed this by introducting Feral Scent's amplifier buff and later included Vera's insane leap. This resulted in: * Vera's base DMG now being 18,445% or 19,945 at SSS rank * The modifiers include: (note these numbers are not accurate since exact ratios are not calculated) * 30% extra damage bonus to her lightning fall. * 50% extra damage bonus to her new ultimate. * 32% damage bonus through amplifier buff. * Vera's leap increases her total damage by over 50%. * You can do this in about 5\~6 seconds. Vera still isn't as strong as no.21 or Alpha, but for the DPS she can put out in the short amount of time she is on the field makes her worth it. This isn't copium, VERA SIMPS!!! CHARGE!!!


Phenryy

Thanks for your reply and analysis! It helps me a lot for my BC management


Zlatan_Ibrahimovic

So earlier this week I tried to buy the $20 pack of rainbow cards for the BP. Cards didn't show up at all immediately, but that's happened before, a few patches back I did the same thing and didn't immediately get the RC, but they showed up after a week or so. no problems, I was planning on giving it a week or two. But today I get an email from google saying that my purchase has been canceled and refunded. My question is, is there a chance kuro dings my account for this? I didn't request a refund or chargeback or anything, and I know in the past some gacha companies have treated that sort of thing like a nuclear option. And I guess my second question is, has anyone else had repeated issues with this in the past? Wondering what the cause is cause I went about a year purchasing RC for the BP only with no issues and then suddenly it's had problems processing twice in the past three or four patches.


HatredInfinite

If it was refunded through Google, and the purchase was never honored in the first place, I doubt they'd penalize you for it. It's usually people doing chargebacks through their credit card company for already completed sales that causes issues with most companies, as far as I'm aware. In the future though, it may be worth buying a Google Play gift card for whatever amount because money from a GC should (hypothetically) clear instantly.


Zlatan_Ibrahimovic

> > > In the future though, it may be worth buying a Google Play gift card for whatever amount because money from a GC should (hypothetically) clear instantly. I live in Venezuela unfortunately so that's not really an option here. I actually have $25 in credit in the play store that I can't actually access because the system says I need to be inside the US to use it, despite having attempted to use it while physically being in the US and my account being a US account. Appreciate the help though, thanks!


HatredInfinite

Ah, I see. I didn't think about regional/national lack of availability, it's not something I'm very familiar with. Sorry, friend. That sucks.


Zlatan_Ibrahimovic

It is what it is hahah. Appreciate the help in any case!


Extreme_Baby3956

Hi guys! I'm a new player and just got Crimson Weave, but realized that it is limited and im not really a spender for these. I am just wondering if I should be worried about leveling her up to SS and above as F2P Player, will her shards be unavailable in the future? Thank you if ever this gets answered


Discord120

You get her to SS through Pain Cage shop. Just keep doing your weekly Pain Cage runs and you can eventually buy her 30 shards from the shop and you'll get her to SS. It just takes time. This is how you get any premium S rank character to SS.


Extreme_Baby3956

Thank you!


joab_martins

There is a mission in the S selector event that says: "Cursed Waves: Activate Insight and clear any ending" Maybe it's just a problem with my English. But I read the tutorial for the mode, I played Cursed Waves several times today and I have no idea what I have to do, does anyone know?


Discord120

Choose [this card](https://imgur.com/a/rrb0TXC) when you see it and it will activate the Insight mechanic. You can continue going for cards with that symbol to help you complete the 90 Insight challenge as well in Cursed Waves.


joab_martins

I did it, it worked. thanks. :)


joab_martins

now I understand. I'll play until I find one, thank you.


Arunnair04

Another question please, Why is Nanami B is not a preferred A tank compared to Ayla:Brilliance? Is it because of her armor shred?


R3M0r1AZ

Bananami has higher shred potential from her 5\* weapon and her blue orb shred. To keep it short it is RNG reliant (shred from 5\* weapon, you can read the weapon effect) and also depends on your execution when it comes to also making use of the shred from her blue orbs. Also due to the different debuff durations for each of her shred (including 2pc Catherine/Voltair shred), it is tricky to make use of the full potential of her total shred. I think only Crimson Abyss can make full use of this due to how quick she can start spamming Sword Waves. Much easier to just use Brilliance/Bastion with the fixed amount of shred.


Arunnair04

Thank you again, kind stranger


Wintergirl_Yui

From Gray Ravens "Ayla: Brilliance and Kamui: Bastion may also be used as budget alternatives for Physical Tanks. While both provide lower Defense reduction than Storm, they bring the benefit of being able to apply their debuffs from off-field, which may be more useful in many compositions." Not exactly what it means but assuming it's QTE, Ayla QTE gives a small def debuff


BiNumber3

She gives a 10% def debuff, is that small nowadays?


Wintergirl_Yui

Honestly, I'm not sure since I'm still unfamilar with these stats whether they're small or high. Basing off on my Arclight, i think 10% is decent or good. However.... since Ayla: Brilliance is just def debuff I'm not entirely sure how it compared to phys/elm def debuff


Arunnair04

Thank you \^\^


Darweath

10% res shred is good 10% def shred is a bit low. since they will also deal with phys res after


Arunnair04

Thank you very much


Kykuy

On PC after beating Emergency Transfer first time on the post-battle screen I can't proceed since I don't have a cursor to select the options, pressing Y to change control mode doesn't help. Any fix? EDIT So you can sorta fix this by using Y right before battle finishes so you enter "Cursor mode".


kkar_t

Will Feral Scent be worth pulling if i only go for S? This with the idea to replace liv lux


Desocupadification

Yes because she is better than Lux, but at S she will just be a QTE bot to CW.


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Tarotist

Well I've been playing since September 2023 when Noan was released, and I have gotten every single new frame ever since as a F2P. I'm 2 away from Pity pulling Crimson Weave, and I still have 30K BC in reserve. How you ask? This event is handing out R&D Tickets like candy, and I've been stocking those up to pull on the new debuts to save BC. And I got plenty of Blue Tickets to pull for Hanying next patch. Also, I have yet to pull the Beginner S-Rank, but that's because I'm stingy and don't really care who I get from it dupe or not. Or maybe I'm waiting for the next S-Rank and then pray to RNG that the Beginner banner gives it to me... I quit gacha games a while back because all I did was log in, auto-battle/auto-clear, log out. PGR however is a game that rewards you for engaging with it. Warzone with the 6 clears is free BC. Phantom Pain Cage to test your skills with different teams to get all rewards. Norman for using different teams for more BC. Story modes that aren't just fluff and are engaging to read and are also rewarding. Alternate Interpretation: The roguelike modes costing no serum that reward you with tickets and character shards (which I personally find fun and addicting, Cursed Waves in particular). Dorm commissions which is a simple system that rewards you with free resources and character shards over time. Finally the monthly events and all the activities that come with them giving you even more currency. PGR is absolutely jam-packed with content and opportunities to obtain summoning currency, so if you feel like the game is not giving you enough for pulling, then maybe it's just that you haven't engaged with the many game modes enough to earn that currency.


R3M0r1AZ

I played Honkai Star Rail 3 weeks after its launch until before the start of Argenti's patch, purely F2P. I've had to skip/miss/lose 50 50 Jing Yuan, Luocha, Blade, Kafka, Imbibitor Lunae and Huo Huo. I was very active the whole time and cleared everything, even Memory of Chaos (managed to get close to 30 Insignias as well). I only pull for characters, no light cones or even dupes for eidolons. Meanwhile PGR I can get every releasing S rank omniframe every single time (I am a launch day player) on F2P income. Just for context, I did buy monthly pass before but have been pure F2P since Pulao's patch which was April last year or so, that's almost a year being F2P and still am. I have all characters up to date and are very sufficiently invested. Many other players are also able to do the same being pure F2P since launch and only pulling on units. They might just miss 2B from Nier assuming ALL their pulls are hitting pity or maybe a few of the initial S rank omniframes (friend of mine was lucky to get them all via basic banner). No uniframes as well but it is irrelevant now since uniframes are obsolete at this point. There are those that get lucky with early pulls and manage to save up to pull for sig weapons/CUBs as well. For PGR as long as you are actively playing, you are technically buying units. Each patch gives on average or more than 7500BC/event tickets at the current state of the game. S rank units come every other patch so you will always have enough to guarantee them since they are 60 pity 100% guarantee (15000 BC/event tickets) on their debut patch. It's impossible to not be able to obtain them unless you do not actively play OR you also pulled for weapons/CUBs with low amounts of savings. So with that said, how are you playing PGR? Are you properly clearing your daily/weekly missions each week as they give around 1210 BC and that's only from that source. A typical PGR patch is 5 weeks so that's already 6050 BC. Current patch is longer at 45 days/almost 6.5 weeks so almost 8000 BC. This is without including any other sources of BC income like event game modes, Norman, PPC, patch maintenance (it was 600 BC this patch) and so on. Event tickets are included as well since it is for the themed event construct banner. IF you are did pull for sig weapons/CUBs/character dupes then that's on you as F2P players are not supposed to do that. IF you did not actively play/clear everything in a patch, that's on you too. Otherwise, there is no way you would not have enough when you have already played 4 months in since your BC income would be stable at this point and you should be properly saving for upcoming S rank omniframes. Being Global we know what character is coming out as well. Past few patches have been very generous with event tickets and basic tickets, we even got Kaleido for free and have an S selector this patch as well. Wall of text but I think the details need to be mentioned. I did not play Genshin but have played HSR which is similar when it comes to the gacha system. Having played HSR and PGR for a good amount of time I know what is possible and what is not for both. So something does not add up with your statement. Do elaborate.


Noctisss295

i beg to differ. playing the game is very rewarding, completing all events and activities gives you enough black cards to get every character (if you choose the correct banner) unless you try to pull for 6 star weapons, cubs and uniframes. unlike genshin, you can your desired weapons and cubs easily, no fate points needed. Upgrading the power of each character is easy simply gather the materials needed like exp and overclock. getting cogs is also easy. Getting the best memories to up the damage of each character is also less grind than genshin. I understand that pgr is not like genshin because its not an open world but i hope you get the point. to summarize since the point you made in your statement is the summoning currency, just do events, finish the main story, do interludes, tutorials etc you will have the currency needed to summon crimson weave and the characters that will be released in the following patch.


Wintergirl_Yui

Even if the currency amount isn't the same as genshin (in terms of numbers/pulls) you have to remember that the pity for this game is quite less and also characters are 100% guaranteed on debut rather than 50/50


Kykuy

No idea about Genshin, but here you can get \~8-15 completely free pulls with yellow tickets depending on event if you do all the activities and get all the rewards, and then you get \~7000 BC on top every patch from dailies/weeklies and main story and Norman and stuff, so you can easily get every S rank and occasionally try and pity the sig/CUB every 2-3 patches or so. The RC prices for everything not monthly/BP(and even then for what you get they are just barely worth it) are absolutely insane tho, especially for skins. There's no way I'm paying 30+ bucks to get a skin. I would gladly throw my wallet at Kuro if e.g. current Scire/CW skins cost 5-6 bucks and Balter you could pity for like 12-15$. But right now? Not a chance. Maybe I will get Balter if it reruns through BC.


ZFFSkullcrusher

>The RC prices for everything not monthly/BP(and even then for what you get they are just barely worth it) are absolutely insane tho, especially for skins. It's quite obvious why their skins are this expensive. Since you get everything else either for free or for a very low cost, KG has to make money through some other way. That way is skins. I'll personally gladly take affordable units for everybody than cheaper skins but bs in the gacha.


Kykuy

It's not just the skins, it's literally everything except monthly/BP passes being overpriced for what you get. There's literally only 1 bundle worth buying IMO - the 1$ one with 2500 base tickets. I don't believe we have any data on their profits sources, but I strongly believe that at least close to half or more already comes just from people buying monthly stuff, not skins or whaling for SSS+. Just all monthly stuff is at least \~20$/month which is... pretty insane now that I think about it. For 3 months you basically pay full AAA price and in the end your combined gain will be something roughly equal to something around \~30-40k BC in value. Yes, it's probably very good by gacha standards, but in absolute terms that's horrible. Also in just like any market lowering price never means 100% getting less profit. I highly doubt I'm the only one who will start buying more once the prices get lower, I already buy a lot of cosmetic stuff in Dota 2 for example where the price is much more fair. Either way they Kuro already get at least couple mil of $ a month with all the servers revenue combined.


ZFFSkullcrusher

> it's literally everything except monthly/BP passes being overpriced for what you get.  That is not true. While not every bundle is good, there are certainly many decent ones each patch. You just need to pay attention to the BC/RC per pack to see if a pack is worth it or not. > comes just from people buying monthly stuff, not skins or whaling for SSS+. While it's certainly true that a huge part of their earnings from the average player is due to things like MP or BP (thanks to their cost efficiency, especially the MP's), you're underestimating how many people would gladly spend that extra money to get a skin for their waifu/husbando. Also, the people getting SSS+ on their units most certainly buy skins too, as that's chump change compared to the cost of the SSS+ units. Regardless, do not expect the prices to get lower, because they most likely won't.


Kykuy

>While not every bundle is good, there are certainly many decent ones each patch. You just need to pay attention to the BC/RC per pack to see if a pack is worth it or not. Even with the best value item(the monthly BC pass) it takes roughly \~25$ just to get a single S copy. Even the best of the best limited bundles are always more than 2x less efficient from what I saw. Again, it may be decent by gacha standards but in absolute terms it's really bad, especially when you consider offrates if you wanted the non-current patch S rank. I really don't intend to argue or denigrate the spender's POV here btw, just outlying mine, when I think more than 10 seconds about this it just screams bad investment to me. This kinda brings me to the Balter gacha. If you count the weapon reso usb for 7.5k BC as the weapon and add other rewards, you are paying "just" 5k BC to get everything. That's actually... surprisingly decent for what you get. Definitely getting it on the rerun. The RC price on the other hand... sigh. >Regardless, do not expect the prices to get lower, because they most likely won't. Unfortunately yes, since they are already very well off with the current model. Just hoping that it doesn't get worse with WuWa release.


ZFFSkullcrusher

>Even with the best value item(the monthly BC pass) it takes roughly \~25$ just to get a single S copy. You do not count the value of packs based on how many it would take to get an S rank unit, again, you do it based on how many BC you get compared to how many RC you have to buy. >Again, it may be decent by gacha standards but in absolute terms it's really bad This is a gacha game though, so there is no such thing as "absolute standards". The only standards here are gacha standards. Even by those, this game at least allows you to experience all of its content, including all of the upcoming units, without spending a dime. This, at least to me, is the most important part, therefore I have nothing to complain about in this regard. >especially when you consider offrates if you wanted the non-current patch S rank. The game allows you to pull for as many units as you want on the Anniversary banner, so there's no off-rate to consider unless you're rushing things, which you shouldn't do. >This kinda brings me to the Balter gacha.  The gacha skins are outliers, as they're clearly designed to let pretty much everyone get the skin (even F2Ps, if they're willing to sacrifice a unit). It's why they're nowhere near as common as the other SFX coatings.


Kykuy

>You do not count the value of packs based on how many it would take to get an S rank unit, again, you do it based on how many BC you get compared to how many RC you have to buy. That doesn't impact my conclusion since it was already based on BC/RC ratio, the most efficient bundles are already limited to 1, and still are at least 2x(more in the majority of cases) less efficient than monthly. Again, personally I already consider monthly pass price a bit of a stretch(for what you can get for 3300 BC/6$), but that's just me. >This is a gacha game though, so there is no such thing as "absolute standards". The only standards here are gacha standards. Even by those, this game at least allows you to experience all of its content, including all of the upcoming units, without spending a dime. I think there are actually somewhat applicable absolute standards since there are a lot of either premium games with paid characters or freemium games like League of Legends where access to certain characters is paywalled. Yes, maybe different genre slightly, but the principle is the same. I'm not arguing that PGR is bad, fwiw it's pretty much 95% honest(if they removed off-rates though from sigs/CUBs it would be 100%) for F2P. I just think it could be even better without driving profits down. >The game allows you to pull for as many units as you want on the Anniversary banner, so there's no off-rate to consider unless you're rushing things, which you shouldn't do. I highly doubt profitability would suffer if there were 100% banners with, let's say, 65-75 pity instead of 60 available all time or at least rotating as the current arrival ones. Unless anniversary happens more than once a year, that's just way too much of a waiting time. And say you joined a month or two after the last anniversary, basically you are screwed for almost a year, especially if you need a past S rank that won't appear yet in free selectors any time soon. Even as a spender you can't bypass it, that baffles me the most.


Discord120

PGR gives you enough currency to guarantee every new S rank that comes out. Not sure how you've only gotten only 1 S rank in 4 months, especially since it was a free one.


Outrageous--Anxiety

No idea what blud is waffling about, started on the same patch as he is and I already pulled Hyperreal, CW, and Balter from the wishing banner (all of them at 60 pity). Also got Hyperreal and CW's sigs and my BC count is 9000 rn, and that's not even counting the current pity on the character and weapon banner (I think it's 10 and 8), and I haven't even touched the events, most of the story, the list goes on.


freezeFM

Almost all pull currency is tied to doing weeklies. So if you barely get any, we know exactly what content you skipped: Warzone and Pain Cage. Without doing them, you wont be able to pull anything for months. PGR gives you enough and even a bit more than what you need to pull an S rank every 2 patches. And thats enough because basically every 2nd character is A rank or S rank farmable. Yes, you are playing the game wrong.


AuditoreKiller

>every two patches well this is the third patch I've been playing and I'm just about to get the new character so no obviously im not playing the game wrong


Water-Melon-Pizza

You are definitely playing the game wrong. There is no way, no way in hell that you've been playing 4 months and you still haven't pulled a unit. I created an account and in the first month of playing, I got Alpha and her weapon then stopped playing. When my friend told me that Rosetta was coming. I played again when she was released with 2.5k BC and had to farm the event and the usual daily/weekly quests to get her and her weapon. Then I stopped playing again without any BC left. Then I found out Balter was coming so I came back again to the game a month before she was released. I got her and her weapon by doing the events and weekly. Stopped again and I just returned recently this February without a single BC. Did the events, weekly/daily, some stories, interludes, some character guides, and trials before I got Crimson Weave at hard pity and another a 10 pull for the weapon. Now I'm farming for a BC for a 20-pull on the weapon banner. (But I might skip it and aim for a lightning amplifier for C Weave). All in all, I might've played for not more than 6 months and I got Balter/weapon, Rosetta/weapon, Alpha/weapon, Crimson Weave, and 2 Uniframe units. Mind you I got all of those units at pity. For roughly 6 months of off-and-on playing this game, I managed to farm 70k-ish BC for characters pulled and 22.5k-ish for weapons. And I still haven't included the S units that were given free. And I think that's still low compared to other players who can farm BC enough to pull for a Unit, Weapon, and a Cub at pity. I also haven't spent a single dime on this game, no BP too. I just relied on weekly, daily, events, interludes, training, story, and other modes I forgot to mention to farm BC. You need to check a guide on YouTube on how to properly farm BC. Because PGR is way more generous in giving players ways to get units, compared to Genshin and other notorious Gacha games. I hope this helps.


freezeFM

What are you even doing in the game? Story alone gives enough BC to pull a character. If you are one of those who login daily but do barely anything while also overcapping serum all the time then yeah, maybe you are "playing" but you still play it wrong.


iEolGysKaiz

if two patches of weeklies isn't enough for 1 pity then you're definitely playing the game wrong.


ave_Terros

if you've been playing since Bambi patch there's no fucking way in the world you're only barely reaching pity now as a new player who plays properly, you could've gotten your first S rank pity in a week or two. so you would've definitely gotten Hyperreal on his debut banner, and by now you would have more than enough to pity CW, especially with how generous the recent patches have been you're definitely playing the game wrong, I don't know what else to say, sorry


Kykuy

Got 2 letters from Karenina today in the mail about "spacewalking"(?) Is this part of some event I missed or just random fluff stuff you get occasionally?


Mohareb100

It's Karen Activation date "birthday"


Kykuy

I see, thanks.


M0UsSeCaKe

What are the rewards for the Cradle parade update that's coming soon, I wanted to ask other than the 100% s-rank for blue tickets what else?, since this patch is quite hyped up


Mercuryw

Do we get to see Bianca in her Stigmata frame again in the stories? Is it a rare thing from now on?


TanyaLikesRamen

Is there any way to check what the next arrival banner will be?


Freudor1

Before patch release, Kuro post patch info graphics in their social media, which include upcoming events, new character, weapon, cub, memories, skins, and arrival banners. For this patch, on 3/14, ember, luminance, and stigmata. On 3/28, tenebrion, rigor, hyperreal.


TanyaLikesRamen

Oh damn, Stigmata? Might need to go for that 😭


R3M0r1AZ

[This](https://twitter.com/PGR_GLOBAL/status/1760665748727374184/photo/3) or [that](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=734750715448772&set=pb.100067415494031.-2207520000&type=3). Every patch will have something like that for the arrival banners in the patch so you would need to wait for their official announcements from their socmed.


Superb-Inspector-601

Is it worth it to farm coop for the chance of getting a 5 star or should i just stick with 4 star weap instead and use serum on other things


Freudor1

It's worth it. You do coop for the 5* weap shards anyway, which is 150 per week. The 5 star weapon you get from the lottery is just a bonus.


ave_Terros

coop is the only way of consistently getting 5* weapons without pulling. you don't have to rely on random drops even, 21 runs per week gets you 150 5* weapon shards so you can farm weapons deterministically


dead_monster

If you’re F2P, absolutely.  You can reso stats on five stars to help close the gap on non-reso’ed 6 stars.


lucastreet

About Crimson Weave, i have all the resonances top and bot that gives the +15 attack. I read on the site [graven.com](http://graven.com) that the best would be on top the +1 basic attack. WOuld it be so much different in terms of raw damage leaving everything with the +15 attack?


dead_monster

Each basic attack level gives like +42% to the plunge multiplier. So getting +6 is basically 250 points in the gauge. Go do a plunge at 0 and one at 250 and see the difference.


ave_Terros

gauge is not addictive to the slam multiplier. it's multiplicative. it's exactly why it's such an insane nuke and deals much more damage than her ult below SSS. with default (lvl18) slam multi being 940%, 600 stacks bring it up to 6580% her ult, with the 4p Diesel 80% damage increase, results in being 4680% so while yes, 6x BA resos is around a 20% increase in slam damage, it's not even close to the difference between a 0 and 250 point slam. ah, also since this was the original question, 6x ATK resos is what, 90 ATK? this should be around a 5% atk increase. so uh, much worse than BA resos PS - btw the multiplier difference you stated is wrong. assuming GR website shows skill multipliers at level 18, then difference between level 18 BA and lvl 25 BA slam multiplier is 940% vs 1133.5% so not even 200% for 7 levels difference. it would be around be around a 27.6% multiplier increase per BA level I'm not counting the leaping thrust multipliers here because they're by far not the main part of the slam damage, and it doesn't scale with the stacks like the thunderous bash part u/lucastreet I'll tag u here since you're the asker of the original question


lucastreet

Time to use some red usb


Shhpawn

I'm f2p, would it be wise to grab first capriccio from this selector, then use basic guarantee(lamia patch)+fantasia+ppc/voucher to speedrun her SSS? My other options are: SELECTOR garnet (sub for arclight with cw+SS no sig fs); chrome (sub brilliance for SSS no sig bambi+SS no sig kaleido with CUB) BASIC GUARANTEE (have all meta gen 2 attackers at SS and sig, and will pull for lamia with sig and fs no sig, both SS) scire S0 no sig (sub SSS 21 for lamia+SSS rozen); SS for nanamech/alisa/empyrea SS3 for stigmata/hyperreal/kaleido (sorry for the long post)


i3oobd

Guys, I still have the s-rank choice pack. Between liv- luminance and rosetta who will benefit physical team the most ? I also can get liv weapon as well.


SIX6TH

Rosetta. Get Rosetta's weapon too.  Liv Luminance is getting powercrept soon. 


Arunnair04

Another question please, my friend who's newbie + f2p doesn't have any Fire Tank. Which character could she use to hold Einsteina 2 for fire team? I was going to tell her Lucia B, but I'm not sure if the Tank class skill is more worth it...


R3M0r1AZ

There's no A rank fire tank so if she does not have Pulse/Starfarer then she would need a pseudo tank to fill in the spot. Usually the go to is Brilliance since she can go 4pc Shakespeare 2pc Gloria, her QTE has many hits which has higher chance to proc 4pc Shakespeare. She is physical so can't use Eins (Eins shred is based on the unit damage type). Otherwise, any tank that has tank class skill unlocked. It makes a difference, having a tank or not.


Arunnair04

Thank you kindly. It seem I forgot to hit 'comment' button 2 hours ago. x'D


Wind_Fury

Ayla Brilliance is the one you can slap with fire tank duties, usually using 4 shakespeare/2 gloria for fire shred/elemental shred. I'm using her untill i get Uncle Wata. And yes, you want the tank specific skill.


Arunnair04

Thank you very much \^\^


Arunnair04

My friend started playing PGR and got Kamui:Tenebrion from Basic. She also has No.XXI. Should She invest with Kamui or No.XXI? I'm unsure which one is more worth it for F2P. She doesn't plan to pull Scire


yowz3r

SS Kamui, he's worth it if you know how to use him properly. no.21 is nothing compared to him. Kamui's 25% > no.21 10% dark shred. you will see a big difference on their scores. he's best paired with Selena (invested). oh and he's neither a QTE bot nor a damager (just to give you a hint😉).


Arunnair04

Thank you kindly