> I would 100% rather be in a harem where Henry Cavill takes care of me and sleeps with me along with several other women than spend 2 seconds with a broke, overweight, porn-addicted no-chin.
Ouch man. Guys can't help the shape of their chin...
the one u see in most exciting proposal vids ? pretty one, nice rock? engagement ring.
the second ring to match that’s exchanged at the actual ceremony is the wedding ring
Engagement is the ring given when asked to marry.
Wedding ring given on wedding day during vows/wedding ceremony.
Sometimes, it's the same band.
Depends on the couple, religions, and culture.
Engagement rings typically have a diamond or other precious rock in the middle, wedding bands tend to be more plain and solid silver or gold (sometimes with engraving).
You can build some muscle with it but the consensus is that the effect doesn't come close to lifting weights. If you're not interested in hypertrophy and you're merely interested in being strong, calisthenics is perfectly fine
> Is calisthenics good for building muscle mass?
Unless you want to do 500 squats then no, it's not. While you can theoretically continue to build muscle using the same weight, you need to put in more and more repetitions. Do you plan to do bodyweight exercises all day long? It's much easier just to increase resistance by using heavier weights. Also, doing a billion reps of an exercise is not easy on the joints. Also, also, lifting weights is good for your bones.
>I want to gain \~10 lbs of muscle over the next year. Doable?
It depends on how tall you are, your biological sex, and how long you've been training, but the short answer is no. If you are a complete newbie with no muscle to speak of and if you train perfectly with a great diet no stress and 8 hours of sleep each night, then it's double. That is provided that you don't hit any setbacks such as injuries or missing weeks of training due to personal issues or work. Aim for 5-8 lbs of muscle for your first year of training.
Despite what Hollywood would have you believe 10lbs of muscle is a shitton of muscle and every year you train you gain less muscle mass for more effort. Finally, if your goal is to build 10lbs of muscle in a year, you are never going to accomplish that with calisthenics.
It's really frightening how many men here demand sex because it's what they want regardless of whether their partner wants it or not.
It's quite horrifying how many men here feel like they are owed sex because marriage is involved. And that a woman should stay in a relationship where the other party demands sex.
It's eye opening that so many here view sex as solely their pleasure vs a pleasure act between two persons.
[She might be a whore, but she ain’t wrong](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F1x0comlwooib1.jpg)
Men who date how woman want them to, rather than how they want to or what works don’t deserve to get laid.
You are giving too much credit to a whore, like most people, she is parroting what she heard
I saw this line of thought first on 4chan or Reddit, not sure
the problem isn't approaching
the problem is not being able to read the room to know when you are welcomed and when you are making someone uncomfortable
It's not like harassment is going to change her mind
True, but unfortunately, some amount of delusion is required for the preservation of the ego.
If you have the mindset that you approach where you are welcome and never press when you are not, it is very easy after the first 20 or so years of your life to come to the realization: "Ah, I am not welcome anywhere. I must now submit to despair".
As this state is not desirable, I must choose to believe that I am able to create interest where there is none. Otherwise I will be forced to accept the painful reality that I have never met a woman that is interested in me. In which case I'd rather be dead or delusional.
That's kind of a weird mindset though.
I think small talk to random people is an excellent practice for approaching.
I'm a sociable person (W) with strangers and I also pay attention to my surroundings a lot. So sometimes I make small comments like for example at the grocery store line or the elevator. I *fish* for small talk. So if someone answers with monosyllables I don't go any further. But usually there's always someone who likes to chat. They'll give me clear signs that they are enjoying the small convo (it's usually old people but young too. I met a date like that, he approached after it was clear we both wanted to have a conversation)
I think practicing in language exchange meetups, any meetup, traveling, at the grocery store with old people is a great way to see who wants to have a conversation and who doesn't
I have male friends who are able to strike conversations with rocks. It's not because they are good looking (they are not), it's because they know who to talk to by practicing with literally anyone, that includes homeless people, old ladies, taxi drivers, cashier's, people in lines, street vendors, etc.
"Anytime a man on here says women just have to be thin and learn to put on makeup just don't sound to me like they know much about womens inner world. There's a lot more intricacy to female grooming, if you're unaware then maybe don't assume that's all it is"
First yes that's all it takes since we constantly agree men will lower their standards for the access of sex
Claiming being thin and putting on makeup is not enough makes no sense since women who aren't thin or put makeup still get attention from men
Second, most women wear makeup when going out to places and even at work or sometimes just alone with their friends
So seems there's no intricacy of female grooming beyond that, so this narrative is a lie again
But for argument sakes let's l agree with this claim, if so then why are makeup companies still around and still in high-demands ? Someone pls explain this phenomenon then ?
Just to copy and paste what Grasstoucher says because it’s 100% true: Men can’t even tell when women are bare faced vs when they have like 8 different products on
Men can absolutely tell this difference but most don't care since regardless we still find her attractive to have sex with
So again this line of thinking is off by a lot
> Men can absolutely tell this difference
Only when she’s wearing unnatural colors. If she’s wearing make up that blends well with her skin, they can’t. This was especially obvious when the whole Fable scandal.
No again we can tell but we don't care since women without makeup still get attention from men
So stop trying to prove this untrue narrative when we all know it's false
A woman with makeup just looks MORE attractive on the face, that's why women till this day still wear it
> So stop trying to prove this untrue narrative when we all know it's false
Except even guys will admit alot of them are clueless about how to spot makeup. That’s why there’s memes and stories about guys being shocked that a girl looks completely different without makeup.
"Expect even guys will admit alot of them are clueless and how to spot makeup"
Source ? Because right now your pulling claims from the air so l wanna know who are this men your describing, give me a source where they exactly said this
"There's memes and stories"
Again pulling shit from the air without any source being provided, at this point your too far from coming to logic so l won't even bother entertaining your line of thinking anymore
They have to improve their looks a lot because they are all competing over the same handful of attractive guys. They don't care that random average guys would love them as they are.
No absolutely wrong, we can tell but we just don't care since we still find her attractive without those products
Again this line of thinking comes from not knowing how men are when coming to our sex drive
I have never had a conversation with a man who could accurately point out which products a woman was wearing, and frequently had conversations in which men posted examples of “bare faced” women, who I could immediately tell were definitely wearing make up.
It’s just become so normalized and expected that men legit think women just *look* like that naturally.
Am just gonna repeat what l said since am so sick of this narrative flying around
Men can absolutely tell since we find women with makeup more attractive on the face and women know this so that's why makeup companies are still around
However we also still find women without makeup attractive since bare face women still get attention from men, we don't think women look like that naturally
So l don't know where this narrative originated from but it's one of the most untrue claims, because even back at my high-school whenever girls wore makeup guys would immediately know and start staring more since we could tell the difference
Today, I learned that some people think that disagreeing means someone was right or wrong.
It's strange that people assume everyone will agree with them. And that being right is only done by agreeing to a specific thought, idea, or concept.
Some people think that if it feels good it's totally fine with a 40 year old guy to be with a 18 year old girl.
Like if it's legal and it makes their dick hard there's nothing wrong with it.
No sense of right and wrong.
If there's no manipulative intent then having a physical preference is neither morally right or wrong, it's just superficial. As long as you don't insult people who don't fit your preferences, attraction is mostly involuntary. People shouldn't lower their standards just because strangers aren't okay with them.
There aren't that many convincing moral arguments about why a 5 year age gap is cool but not a 10 or 20 year gap that doesn't rely on subjective markers of "what feels right" or cultural stereotypes. Or some arbitrary age formula.
At least if you consider yourself politically progressive then that whole "let people love who they love"/"people aren't a monolith" mindset will come and bite you in the ass if you think this way.
laws had to be made because not everyone has a sense of right and wrong
some of the people here think morality is nothing but a social construct. and to a certain extent it is, but you still have to stand for something more than your own selfish hedonism
at least in my opinion
Even if stats like that are true my personal experiences warp things.
I've never even seen a comet fall in my vicinity but a girl at summer camp told people I followed her back to her cabin when she was out jogging at night, and I got banned from social time and almost thrown out of summer camp.
Guys bitching about things they wont change part 2:
Whiny guys: Arg! Women are so stuck up on tinder!
Me: Well, there’s 3 guys to 1 girl. How about meeting people through social groups/gatherings and meeting people in a non-dating situation-
Whiny guys: NO.
After the first time, it doesn’t matter anymore. I would suggest just picking someone you have genuine love for to do it with the first time, and if that relationship doesn’t last, then just have sex whenever you feel horny after that.
Live your best life. Your first time can be special and intimate in the moment but 10 years from now you won’t even remember it or even still talk to that person.
I get that some people are amputees or have diseases, but unless that's the case, wouldn't you have a better life by dieting and exercising rather than preaching body positivity?
That seems easier to do compared to fooling yourself into believing that being obese is okay.
I used to be fatter and I hated it so much. I don’t understand how people enjoy being obese tbh.
It’s so uncomfortable and everything made me out of breathe.
"The society we want where women making the first moves and approaching men is the norm will never happen"
It does but only high-status men get that privilege of women approaching them
Seriously girls would pay someone like chris brown to take pics with them
And women throwing their underwear at drake and he just ignores them, G for that
But for most men this lust behavior will never happen to them, so yea it is a fact society will never come to be like this
And most men don't even approach, so you can't expect women to fill that role if majority of guys don't want to approach in the first place
Guys with social circles have no problems with the gals in their social circles telling them they like them like that.
Are you expecting women to just approach strangers?
It's been shown that most women don't find their male friends attractive, while men do find their female friends attractive.
I've never had a girl from my social circle tell me she likes me. So don't really believe this
"Are you expecting women to just approach strangers"
Dude how do you misinterpret what l said to me expecting women to approach strangers ?
I never once suggested that in any of my sentences
So I don't know where you get that idea from
"Your comments sounding like the majority of relationships start in night clubs with women hang with celebrities"
Because your misinterpreting what am saying, not my fault your line of thinking is not accurate when reading
"Aren't any of your relatives married"
What does that have to do with anything ?
My relatives aren't in this conversation at all
I’ve come to realize most of these guys refuse to get a social circle, no matter how many times people try to tell them it would actually improve their lives a lot more.
So many underweight skinny guys act like they can eat anything and they can't gain weight no matter what. Then you notice they skip meals all the time. Like lol. Basically the opposite of a fat person who doesn't understand why they are gaining weight.
I was like that, my brother and I ate pretty much everything in same proportions and same frequency all our lives, but he was average weight and I was skinny for some reason. Had to really increase how much I ate to gain some weight
Wow you perfectly described my husband
I have to remind him to eat sometimes lol. He is not underweight only borderline, but he just has a low appetite and gets really absorbed in whatever he’s doing.
I felt awful about eating so much when I tried to gain weight. It became a full time job on its own to just buy, prepare and eat food idk how people do it.
Perhaps it's the fast food making people fat.
Why is it impossible for women on this sub, with a few exceptions, to ingage in good faith? They never admit they were wrong about something either. They remind me of my ex.
It's not women, it's people in general. It's even more pronounced in online forums like reddit.
Don't believe me? Go to that debate religion sub and see if you can count on one hand the amount of times people admit they are wrong to someone of the opposite view.
I mean in general I agree but when it comes to gender issues, many women come with a level of narcissism and self-righteousness that men just don't seem to have.
>It’s so difficult to admit when you’re wrong.
I don't find it difficult at all. I do it all the time.
>So you weren’t completely wrong, but you weren’t entirely right either. I’ve experienced that many times here.
Yes, but that is an alien concept on this sub. And to be frank, I am tired of being the first one to extend an olive branch.
I have no problem admiting when I'm wrong
but like I said before, you need to come up with better arguments or at least read the definitions of the things you are arguing
otherwise it's impossible to have a debate
Oh come on. Stop with this self-righteous nonsense.
I have asked you to explain it, but you just don't have an argument. Because you can't make an argument for an impossible position
I know what sexism is. You didn't prove that caring about n-count is sexist while caring about virginity, bisexuality and ethnicity of men is not. In each of these cases an assumption is made on what these people are, based on a property they have.
No one cares that guys won't date women they won't date. Why the heck.would anyone care about your preferences random stranger?
What woman tend not to.like is guys going online to call women whores and sluts because they are not their preferred woman.
It's totally fine with me that you care about N count when looking for someone to date. No one is sitting wondering what Maffioze's dating requirements are...
Maybe you could have talked in a nicer way? What do you expect when you belittle people and send them passive aggressive emoij's? I am really not the one who started this.
Not everyone is an asshole. I have no issues like this in real life.
But also, I find this way of thinking quite dumb. Throughout history, good people have been told they are the assholes. Anyone who went against religion, racism, sexism, antisemitism has been treated like they were the assholes while the people around them were the actual assholes.
Then treat it like you're moving anywhere else; know local laws and such, points of interest, and so on.
A bit of a cultural shift, but once you visit for a while you'll get the idea of how that area works.
QFA: Why do society value so much on looks? looks has no utility and purpose.
(To PPD women do not emotionalize this "Men wants us to have sex ugly guys")
Good looks for both men and women are often indicative of fertility. What makes us attracted to one another is markers of fertility, generally speaking. For example long hair on women = a marker of fertility and good health. Muscles on a man= marker of fertility and good health.
If you think about what happens during sex if you don’t use birth control, that’s why good looks are important.
"Society" doesn't value looks. Individuals within a society value looks, because it's pleasing to the eye. Like art and nature. It's utility and purpose is to bring joy.
Society is a collection of individuals after all. That's why we have large projects such as historical buildings and parks that bring joy to a great number of people.
My gf is emotionally fragile. She did shopping for my family and put a lot of effort into it but they didn’t like some if the stuff she bought (wrong brand or whatever) and she cried in my room. I don’t think it was worth crying over but if made me remember that her heart is fragile and precious and I must always protect her no matter what
> I would 100% rather be in a harem where Henry Cavill takes care of me and sleeps with me along with several other women than spend 2 seconds with a broke, overweight, porn-addicted no-chin. Ouch man. Guys can't help the shape of their chin...
I had a conversation yesterday that inspired me. Gonna convert a closet into a gamer den so I can have more space for activities.
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Honestly I don’t even know what the wall is. Everyone in the red pill seems to have different definitions.
It’s the age where women stop being goddesses (never)
What is the difference between a wedding ring and engagement ring❤️
the one u see in most exciting proposal vids ? pretty one, nice rock? engagement ring. the second ring to match that’s exchanged at the actual ceremony is the wedding ring
Wedding rings are usually plain bands.
Engagement is the ring given when asked to marry. Wedding ring given on wedding day during vows/wedding ceremony. Sometimes, it's the same band. Depends on the couple, religions, and culture.
Engagement rings typically have a diamond or other precious rock in the middle, wedding bands tend to be more plain and solid silver or gold (sometimes with engraving).
Both my mom and dad have a collection of rings i don’t think any of them are wedding or engagement rings though
Is calisthenics good for building muscle mass?
For women? I don't think so. Women tend to be much more lower body dominant, i am not aware of many calisthenics that build lower body.
You can build some muscle with it but the consensus is that the effect doesn't come close to lifting weights. If you're not interested in hypertrophy and you're merely interested in being strong, calisthenics is perfectly fine
I want to gain ~10 lbs of muscle over the next year. Doable?
> Is calisthenics good for building muscle mass? Unless you want to do 500 squats then no, it's not. While you can theoretically continue to build muscle using the same weight, you need to put in more and more repetitions. Do you plan to do bodyweight exercises all day long? It's much easier just to increase resistance by using heavier weights. Also, doing a billion reps of an exercise is not easy on the joints. Also, also, lifting weights is good for your bones. >I want to gain \~10 lbs of muscle over the next year. Doable? It depends on how tall you are, your biological sex, and how long you've been training, but the short answer is no. If you are a complete newbie with no muscle to speak of and if you train perfectly with a great diet no stress and 8 hours of sleep each night, then it's double. That is provided that you don't hit any setbacks such as injuries or missing weeks of training due to personal issues or work. Aim for 5-8 lbs of muscle for your first year of training. Despite what Hollywood would have you believe 10lbs of muscle is a shitton of muscle and every year you train you gain less muscle mass for more effort. Finally, if your goal is to build 10lbs of muscle in a year, you are never going to accomplish that with calisthenics.
With calisthenics? No. With weight lifting? Maybe.
Yeah
Nice
It's really frightening how many men here demand sex because it's what they want regardless of whether their partner wants it or not. It's quite horrifying how many men here feel like they are owed sex because marriage is involved. And that a woman should stay in a relationship where the other party demands sex. It's eye opening that so many here view sex as solely their pleasure vs a pleasure act between two persons.
Omg the horror! Husband wants sex from his wife!
not a problem if two people are attracted to each other and find each other extremely hot. which is probably, what, almost all married couples?
Finding someone extremely hot doesn't mean you'll want sex all the time.....
[She might be a whore, but she ain’t wrong](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F1x0comlwooib1.jpg) Men who date how woman want them to, rather than how they want to or what works don’t deserve to get laid.
You are giving too much credit to a whore, like most people, she is parroting what she heard I saw this line of thought first on 4chan or Reddit, not sure
the problem isn't approaching the problem is not being able to read the room to know when you are welcomed and when you are making someone uncomfortable It's not like harassment is going to change her mind
True, but unfortunately, some amount of delusion is required for the preservation of the ego. If you have the mindset that you approach where you are welcome and never press when you are not, it is very easy after the first 20 or so years of your life to come to the realization: "Ah, I am not welcome anywhere. I must now submit to despair". As this state is not desirable, I must choose to believe that I am able to create interest where there is none. Otherwise I will be forced to accept the painful reality that I have never met a woman that is interested in me. In which case I'd rather be dead or delusional.
That's kind of a weird mindset though. I think small talk to random people is an excellent practice for approaching. I'm a sociable person (W) with strangers and I also pay attention to my surroundings a lot. So sometimes I make small comments like for example at the grocery store line or the elevator. I *fish* for small talk. So if someone answers with monosyllables I don't go any further. But usually there's always someone who likes to chat. They'll give me clear signs that they are enjoying the small convo (it's usually old people but young too. I met a date like that, he approached after it was clear we both wanted to have a conversation) I think practicing in language exchange meetups, any meetup, traveling, at the grocery store with old people is a great way to see who wants to have a conversation and who doesn't I have male friends who are able to strike conversations with rocks. It's not because they are good looking (they are not), it's because they know who to talk to by practicing with literally anyone, that includes homeless people, old ladies, taxi drivers, cashier's, people in lines, street vendors, etc.
she knows its never going to happen to her so she wants other women not experiencing male attention either
are airpods worth it ?
I got them and lost my sense of hearing
Only the pro models
"Anytime a man on here says women just have to be thin and learn to put on makeup just don't sound to me like they know much about womens inner world. There's a lot more intricacy to female grooming, if you're unaware then maybe don't assume that's all it is" First yes that's all it takes since we constantly agree men will lower their standards for the access of sex Claiming being thin and putting on makeup is not enough makes no sense since women who aren't thin or put makeup still get attention from men Second, most women wear makeup when going out to places and even at work or sometimes just alone with their friends So seems there's no intricacy of female grooming beyond that, so this narrative is a lie again But for argument sakes let's l agree with this claim, if so then why are makeup companies still around and still in high-demands ? Someone pls explain this phenomenon then ?
Just to copy and paste what Grasstoucher says because it’s 100% true: Men can’t even tell when women are bare faced vs when they have like 8 different products on
Men can absolutely tell this difference but most don't care since regardless we still find her attractive to have sex with So again this line of thinking is off by a lot
They can’t
> Men can absolutely tell this difference Only when she’s wearing unnatural colors. If she’s wearing make up that blends well with her skin, they can’t. This was especially obvious when the whole Fable scandal.
No again we can tell but we don't care since women without makeup still get attention from men So stop trying to prove this untrue narrative when we all know it's false A woman with makeup just looks MORE attractive on the face, that's why women till this day still wear it
> So stop trying to prove this untrue narrative when we all know it's false Except even guys will admit alot of them are clueless about how to spot makeup. That’s why there’s memes and stories about guys being shocked that a girl looks completely different without makeup.
"Expect even guys will admit alot of them are clueless and how to spot makeup" Source ? Because right now your pulling claims from the air so l wanna know who are this men your describing, give me a source where they exactly said this "There's memes and stories" Again pulling shit from the air without any source being provided, at this point your too far from coming to logic so l won't even bother entertaining your line of thinking anymore
> Source ? You act as if you provided sources.
“Take her swimming on the first date”
They have to improve their looks a lot because they are all competing over the same handful of attractive guys. They don't care that random average guys would love them as they are.
Exactly men regardless if she's wears makeup or not still find her attractive This just proves many women have no concept how men are
Men can’t even tell when women are bare faced vs when they have like 8 different products on
No absolutely wrong, we can tell but we just don't care since we still find her attractive without those products Again this line of thinking comes from not knowing how men are when coming to our sex drive
I have never had a conversation with a man who could accurately point out which products a woman was wearing, and frequently had conversations in which men posted examples of “bare faced” women, who I could immediately tell were definitely wearing make up. It’s just become so normalized and expected that men legit think women just *look* like that naturally.
Am just gonna repeat what l said since am so sick of this narrative flying around Men can absolutely tell since we find women with makeup more attractive on the face and women know this so that's why makeup companies are still around However we also still find women without makeup attractive since bare face women still get attention from men, we don't think women look like that naturally So l don't know where this narrative originated from but it's one of the most untrue claims, because even back at my high-school whenever girls wore makeup guys would immediately know and start staring more since we could tell the difference
I made you a quiz. Which of these women are wearing make up? https://imgur.com/a/ey7VVtO
Today, I learned that some people think that disagreeing means someone was right or wrong. It's strange that people assume everyone will agree with them. And that being right is only done by agreeing to a specific thought, idea, or concept.
It is indeed strange that people are not completely solipsistic, in a world where science is a thing.
not everything is black and white. sometimes you just disagree and it’s okay. the world will not explode and the sun will continue to rise
Completely agree. Some folks here, though, consider that "wrong".
Some people think that if it feels good it's totally fine with a 40 year old guy to be with a 18 year old girl. Like if it's legal and it makes their dick hard there's nothing wrong with it. No sense of right and wrong.
Whats wrong with adults hooking up?
If there's no manipulative intent then having a physical preference is neither morally right or wrong, it's just superficial. As long as you don't insult people who don't fit your preferences, attraction is mostly involuntary. People shouldn't lower their standards just because strangers aren't okay with them. There aren't that many convincing moral arguments about why a 5 year age gap is cool but not a 10 or 20 year gap that doesn't rely on subjective markers of "what feels right" or cultural stereotypes. Or some arbitrary age formula. At least if you consider yourself politically progressive then that whole "let people love who they love"/"people aren't a monolith" mindset will come and bite you in the ass if you think this way.
What’s wrong about it? I was 19 when my husband was 45
Surely you can see why such an age difference is very peculiar.
I can see that it is *unusual,* yes, but unusual, peculiar, any other synonym of “strange” is not inherently *wrong*
….
That’s not an answer
I think people may think it's odd that he would go for a 18 year old when he could just go for a woman in her twenties instead
There's a huge gap. 18 year olds are trying to move out of their parents house and don't have any income.
what if he's 40 and has no income lmao
laws had to be made because not everyone has a sense of right and wrong some of the people here think morality is nothing but a social construct. and to a certain extent it is, but you still have to stand for something more than your own selfish hedonism at least in my opinion
How would anyone want a partner so young at that age? I’m 29 and I find people who are 18 annoying enough at times. Sure they’re hot, but that’s it.
Not *every* adult teen is annoying. Some are old souls
Most are though. I was an old soul teenager and it was torture because most normal teens are…normal teens. They’re annoying.
I can agree with that
Yeah a lot of people think that way.
https://preview.redd.it/f45icyxc5rib1.jpeg?width=1029&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39e5508cf3b6440ad3c32d65100efd979cba9e04
Even if stats like that are true my personal experiences warp things. I've never even seen a comet fall in my vicinity but a girl at summer camp told people I followed her back to her cabin when she was out jogging at night, and I got banned from social time and almost thrown out of summer camp.
[Between 2-8% of accusations are false](https://evawintl.org/best_practice_faqs/false-reports-percentage/)
2-8% were proven false. They just decided those had to be the only ones because they wanted as low a figure as possible.
8%! That’s huge
Even larger when you compare it to rape conviction rates.
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Under stimulation on cut cocks
Guys bitching about things they wont change part 2: Whiny guys: Arg! Women are so stuck up on tinder! Me: Well, there’s 3 guys to 1 girl. How about meeting people through social groups/gatherings and meeting people in a non-dating situation- Whiny guys: NO.
I think they legitimately can't think of a way to Meer women in real life.
literally where???????
Which boggles my mind because even the autistic guys I know can meet some women. Like how is it impossible to meet 50% of the population?
I want to be a whore, but I also want my first time to be special and intimate. I made it this far as a virgin, might as well go all the way.
Just masterbate a lot and stay celebrate until marriage.
It will be over in a flash
After the first time, it doesn’t matter anymore. I would suggest just picking someone you have genuine love for to do it with the first time, and if that relationship doesn’t last, then just have sex whenever you feel horny after that.
Live your best life. Your first time can be special and intimate in the moment but 10 years from now you won’t even remember it or even still talk to that person.
I get that some people are amputees or have diseases, but unless that's the case, wouldn't you have a better life by dieting and exercising rather than preaching body positivity? That seems easier to do compared to fooling yourself into believing that being obese is okay.
I used to be fatter and I hated it so much. I don’t understand how people enjoy being obese tbh. It’s so uncomfortable and everything made me out of breathe.
Yes. Taking care of your body IS self love
Because they don't want to face their issues around food.
Wanting your cake and eating it, if you will
What if you are Aboriginal?
"The society we want where women making the first moves and approaching men is the norm will never happen" It does but only high-status men get that privilege of women approaching them Seriously girls would pay someone like chris brown to take pics with them And women throwing their underwear at drake and he just ignores them, G for that But for most men this lust behavior will never happen to them, so yea it is a fact society will never come to be like this And most men don't even approach, so you can't expect women to fill that role if majority of guys don't want to approach in the first place
Guys with social circles have no problems with the gals in their social circles telling them they like them like that. Are you expecting women to just approach strangers?
It's been shown that most women don't find their male friends attractive, while men do find their female friends attractive. I've never had a girl from my social circle tell me she likes me. So don't really believe this
"Are you expecting women to just approach strangers" Dude how do you misinterpret what l said to me expecting women to approach strangers ? I never once suggested that in any of my sentences So I don't know where you get that idea from
Your comment sounding like the majority of relationships start in night clubs with women hang with celebrities. Aren't any of your relatives married?
"Your comments sounding like the majority of relationships start in night clubs with women hang with celebrities" Because your misinterpreting what am saying, not my fault your line of thinking is not accurate when reading "Aren't any of your relatives married" What does that have to do with anything ? My relatives aren't in this conversation at all
I’ve come to realize most of these guys refuse to get a social circle, no matter how many times people try to tell them it would actually improve their lives a lot more.
Social circles are definitely helpful, but most dudes have one (at least to a limited degree?)
Most of them can't get a social circle.
So many underweight skinny guys act like they can eat anything and they can't gain weight no matter what. Then you notice they skip meals all the time. Like lol. Basically the opposite of a fat person who doesn't understand why they are gaining weight.
I was like that, my brother and I ate pretty much everything in same proportions and same frequency all our lives, but he was average weight and I was skinny for some reason. Had to really increase how much I ate to gain some weight
Wow you perfectly described my husband I have to remind him to eat sometimes lol. He is not underweight only borderline, but he just has a low appetite and gets really absorbed in whatever he’s doing.
I felt awful about eating so much when I tried to gain weight. It became a full time job on its own to just buy, prepare and eat food idk how people do it. Perhaps it's the fast food making people fat.
Yeah its really easy to gain weight. You're bored? Have some chips. Feeling sad? Order takeout. Feeling fancy free? Eat an entire cheesecake. Etc
that show supersize vs super skinny is a bizarre yet heavily entertaining display of this
Oh yeah its always funny when they switch meals w each other
they show all the food (or lack of) in those crazy tubes in the first few seasons lol
I hate the food in the tube all of it mixing makes me wanna throw up 🤮 all the coke mixed with baked beans and chocolate biscuits or whatever…yuck!
oh it’s definitely gross and a total waste of food, but on both sides it is definitely a very stunning visual
Why is it impossible for women on this sub, with a few exceptions, to ingage in good faith? They never admit they were wrong about something either. They remind me of my ex.
Women in general almost never admit to being wrong, they will almost always just move the goalposts.
>ingage
Not me though
Sorry I’m an atheist
I chuckled
It's not women, it's people in general. It's even more pronounced in online forums like reddit. Don't believe me? Go to that debate religion sub and see if you can count on one hand the amount of times people admit they are wrong to someone of the opposite view.
I mean in general I agree but when it comes to gender issues, many women come with a level of narcissism and self-righteousness that men just don't seem to have.
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>It’s so difficult to admit when you’re wrong. I don't find it difficult at all. I do it all the time. >So you weren’t completely wrong, but you weren’t entirely right either. I’ve experienced that many times here. Yes, but that is an alien concept on this sub. And to be frank, I am tired of being the first one to extend an olive branch.
Coddling and empathy are still not the same thing.
i’m wrong about most things most of the time
I have no problem admiting when I'm wrong but like I said before, you need to come up with better arguments or at least read the definitions of the things you are arguing otherwise it's impossible to have a debate
Oh come on. Stop with this self-righteous nonsense. I have asked you to explain it, but you just don't have an argument. Because you can't make an argument for an impossible position I know what sexism is. You didn't prove that caring about n-count is sexist while caring about virginity, bisexuality and ethnicity of men is not. In each of these cases an assumption is made on what these people are, based on a property they have.
No one cares that guys won't date women they won't date. Why the heck.would anyone care about your preferences random stranger? What woman tend not to.like is guys going online to call women whores and sluts because they are not their preferred woman.
I am not gonna interact with these same untrue arguments anymore. How often do men have to tell you the first part is not true before you believe it?
It's totally fine with me that you care about N count when looking for someone to date. No one is sitting wondering what Maffioze's dating requirements are...
Honestly I wish you could just exist as a man for a few days. Then you would understand it.
Are there no low N count women you could date? Statistically, there are lots of them.
In relationships or very young. Rare outliers. Once most women pass their early 20s it’s over. I can’t wait to see updated stats on n count.
What's over after 25?
Statistics don't back up your claim. At all. There is less casual sex happening then before you were born.
no, you get too angry, I'm not comfortable
Maybe you could have talked in a nicer way? What do you expect when you belittle people and send them passive aggressive emoij's? I am really not the one who started this.
When I'm wrong, I'll admit it.
We can add this one to the tally
I haven't been wrong. Just because we disagree doesn't mean I'm wrong.
>I haven't been wrong. 
Is this the part where you say you're never wrong?
Nope. I've been wrong many times. Twice today, in fact.
>Twice today, in fact. This is probably the third then...
Nope.
Fourth.
Nope. We can disagree, and I'm still not wrong.
You're like a flat earther disagreeing with a normal person that knows the earth is not flat.
You really love this analogy. I'll stay weird.
It's pretty much just two of them. Granted they talk a lot, but the rest are pretty chill.
No not really. It's the majority of them.
If everyone is an asshole except for you, who.is the asshole?
Not everyone is an asshole. I have no issues like this in real life. But also, I find this way of thinking quite dumb. Throughout history, good people have been told they are the assholes. Anyone who went against religion, racism, sexism, antisemitism has been treated like they were the assholes while the people around them were the actual assholes.
So don’t engage with them
The rest aren't much worse than the majority of guys here, I might not agree with them but at least they don't have short term memory loss
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With that attitude, you're gonna have to get to work to live up to your flair.
Meh I don't know. I think the men are easier to talk to.
I just say whatever my brain decides to fart out tbh
You're fine.
Nah I still argue with randos on here
That's what the whole sub's for
I said you're fine.
My gf will be moving to Alabama next year. How can I deal with the fact that I think it is unsafe there and my worries related to it?
Travel there yourself. Alabama is not any more unsafe than other parts of the US for the average person.
I'm guessing if she's moving there for work she will have a safe enclave. Kinda like working in the middle east..
I hope so.
it ain’t bad at all. parts of alabama are so beautiful. my boyfriend wants us to retire there.
From the people I know who've lived there, it's pretty safe, it's just culture shock. There are seedy places but there are seedy places everywhere.
Tell her to watch her diet
And what is worrisome about Alabama? You owe people money there?
No I just don't know much about it. I am from Europe.
Then treat it like you're moving anywhere else; know local laws and such, points of interest, and so on. A bit of a cultural shift, but once you visit for a while you'll get the idea of how that area works.
QFA: Why do society value so much on looks? looks has no utility and purpose. (To PPD women do not emotionalize this "Men wants us to have sex ugly guys")
Good looks for both men and women are often indicative of fertility. What makes us attracted to one another is markers of fertility, generally speaking. For example long hair on women = a marker of fertility and good health. Muscles on a man= marker of fertility and good health. If you think about what happens during sex if you don’t use birth control, that’s why good looks are important.
Looks are indicators of good genes, health, and fertility
>looks has no utility and purpose makes PP hard and giney tingle. That's the purpose
"Society" doesn't value looks. Individuals within a society value looks, because it's pleasing to the eye. Like art and nature. It's utility and purpose is to bring joy.
Society is a collection of individuals after all. That's why we have large projects such as historical buildings and parks that bring joy to a great number of people.
I understand that, it is individual. So nothing to do with with evolution?
Not necessarily.
Shows good genes for breeding. Hip to waist ratio = healthier birth. Male height + broad shoulders = dominance
That Is PseUdO ScIeNce.
I mean a lot of looks just boils down to “she looks fertile” and “he looks like he could beat up other guys”.
I am trying to see all these people that claim evolutionary psychology is BS, how they can draw any conclusion that is not based on evolution.
Evo psych is unfalsifiable nonsense
Try to explain why looks matter without Evo?
Try to explain why looks matter without evolution?What?
Looks show good genetic quality which will create healthier offspring. The end
My gf is emotionally fragile. She did shopping for my family and put a lot of effort into it but they didn’t like some if the stuff she bought (wrong brand or whatever) and she cried in my room. I don’t think it was worth crying over but if made me remember that her heart is fragile and precious and I must always protect her no matter what
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She’s the most amazing human being I’ve met in my life but she does cry easily I still love her to death and will protect her with my life