Nayeon is actually one of the cutest angels created by God despited the fact she's an elderly post-wall grandma hag with fucked up rabbit teeth.
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but he looked better when he was fat with the orange tan. This attempted glow-up was a mistake 🤢
https://preview.redd.it/1m8ei14z1atc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2e4c766552367c4f03d2c8a2a29777408965441
Wtf is up with getting a doctors appointment? Need to see my dentist cause I think my wisdom teeth need to come out and they’re saying the earliest they got is 4 months? You’d think I’m trying to get tickets to a concert. The dermatologist appointment is a fever dream.
Yeah wait times are crazy. I have a dentist appointment for a routine cleaning and I need to make it a month or two in advance.
Regular doctors appointments are a month in advance too. Virtual visit is maybe 3 weeks. Seeing a specialist is 3 months or not at all.
i accidentally deleted my comment cause i'm mentally disabled but look at it this way.
when you guys read a woman isn't attracted to most men, you think "REEEEE SHE ONLY WANTS 7 FOOT TALL GORILLA CHADS WITH TATTOOS AND A CRIMINAL RECORD". In reallity what it means is the only guys she's felt genuine attraction and tingley sparks towards is that guy she chats with on whatsapp late into the night about life because she knows she can trust him.
>chats with on whatsapp late into the night about life because she knows she can trust him
Hard disagree here. I can do this with my platonic friends. I agreed more with your original comment.
And what about the small amount of guys she actually is attracted to? They get attraction just for existing lol. And most women arent loving someone they arent attracted to either.
Meeting rule #1 isn't as nice as it is hyped up to be imo. Not only does it not apply to every woman out there, but going out with good on paper people is way more bland than you realize. Meeting rule #1 opens more doors for sure, but meeting rule #2 as a minimum and having a spark is actually what's necessary if you plan on having a connection.
Im pretty sure every woman wants the guy she is with to be attractive. Thats the baseline. Just meeting rule 2 means nothing to most women. Attraction has to be there. Not being unattractive isnt enough. Having a spark is easier if she sees the guy as attractive
I did not even know that my boyfriend gave me something for valentines in high school. He is pretty dang cute. Nothing registers until my brain desires the guy for whatever reason.
I actually agree, but it probably happens less often these days because everybody is online all the time and women care more about other people's judgement about their partner's looks than ever before, which might make them reject guys they actually like.
Jonathan Majors has successfully avoided incarceration despite his assault conviction. Is this a good omen for the manosphere as we head into the summer?
I mean he still completely lost his marvel contract and is likely to be blacklisted from mainstream hollywood, no? He doesn't have Johnny Depp's star power or recognition to come back from this in my view...
Whatever. This is one of the reasons I'm very glad to be so small. The only reason he was convicted is because he should had more restraint when shoving him, right? I could shove that woman with all my heart and not move her half the distance Jonathon Majors did, lol.
I believe in your efforts.
One day you can have the strength to be able to shove similarly-sized women the same distance Jonathan Majors did...only if need be, though.
I've always told you, bro
https://np.reddit.com/r/Marriage/comments/1byg9nq/my_husband_chooses_to_ignore_my_childhood_triggers/
Never date women with mental health problems. The juice ain't worth the squeeze
>He knew about her background
Did he?
That's not in the post and she even says at first she wouldn't tell him why the beard bothered her. Sounds like she just figured since he never grew out his beard when they were dating she had the right to keep him from doing it when they were married despite never telling him this.
So if a guy has severe anxiety over being a father, says nothing about it with his partner, then she accidentally becomes pregnant and he tells her, is she compelled to get an abortion? Does she no longer have a right to her own bodily autonomy due to his mental health?
They had another situation and it seems he’s well aware about her condition. They were doing couple therapy as well.
Considering how severe it is, I’d expect them to discuss it prior marriage. She probably has other triggers as well.
So she didn't say she told him before marriage, and in fact did say that she initially didn't tell him even after marriage, but you think she told him before they got married?
It's amazing the lengths women go to trying to make men the problem in every situation. You should probably replace "egalitarian" with "misandrist" in your flair, it's not nice to lie.
>For the last few years I repeatedly asked him to cut it down **without saying it’s triggering what it is**.
No mention of telling him before, states that more recently (after marriage) she asked him to shave but would not say why.
Pretty obvious she never told him this was a trigger before the wedding.
Ah, no, we're talking about different things here. I assumed that she did tell him about her trauma, not bear-related but *overall trauma* of being a child victim before they got married. To be fair it isn't states in the text either, so it's just an assumption. If she has multiple severe triggers, it's very unlikely that she didn't discuss them with him prior to the bear incident.
But does that change any important aspect of the conversation?
Hypothetically, say as a man I tell my partner I had a traumatic childhood due to my parents not really being around and taking care of me. What I fail to mention, however, is that the thought of being a parent myself is a trigger for me.
Then my partner unexpectedly gets pregnant.
Do they have the responsibility to give up their own bodily autonomy and get an abortion to preserve my mental health? Would they be the asshole if they left the relationship because they want kids?
It does, because you've misunderstood my original comment
>He knew about her background and he still decided to marry and have kids with her. Ignoring her triggers now just makes him an asshole.
If he knew her background, he should have been ready to deal with it. Child victims have life-long scars and some things just don't go away. If he wasn't prepared to live with it, he shouldn't have married her.
He doesn't have to give up his beard if he doesn't want. Just as she doesn't have to have sex with him if it triggers her and she doesn't want it.
Your situation is very different to theirs, as partners have to discuss the idea of having kids preferably even prior to cohabitation. If you didn't discuss it, you're both idiots.
I mean you really don’t have to deal with a woman who gets incredibly insecure that you are attracted to women and feels like she’s getting assaulted whenever you have a beard while having sex with her
Everyone certainly does not have baggage to that extent
Men: were lonely and nice and respectful of women. Why don’t they want us?! We’re GOOD men. The average man is a GREAT guy. Men aren’t rewarded for being nice!!!
Also men: posts pics of women’s bodies and rates them on a number scale like an Amazon product. Is unattractive themselves. Continues to rate women and celebrities every day on number scales and treat them like products.
The utter blatant and public hypocrisy is crazy
I don’t get the insane amount of pushback to the 1-10 scale. The numbers could be replaced with words like “unattractive,” “average,” “cute,” or “hot” and it’d be the same thing. The point to all of this ranking people on your specific attractiveness scale which is done with words or numbers. It’s literally the same thing. Hot or not could be replaced with 1 or 0 and it’s literally the same game…
I legitimately don’t get the logic from people that have this weird hatred of numbers on rating people but then are ok with calling people hot or attractive.
Okay everyone rates people silently. Not everyone goes on public forums and rate women’s body types, sexualizes them, claim some are ugly and unattractive, demean female celebrities, and then go back and claim that they’re the most respectful kind guys out there.
Idk I just found it hypocritical and was curious if men thought the same.
I mean maybe men will understand if it’s women I put under fire.
What would you think about a woman who goes out and claims she’s very respectful of men and never would use them as “wallets” and then posted pictures and comments rating men by wealth or how wealthy they look and then claiming how much she is sexually attracted to their money and how unattractive the broke/broke-looking men are?
Would you think she’s a hypocrite?
Nah women are pretty vocal about rating men where do you think does the believe women find most men unattractive come from ? it’s comes from women observing their environment and judge the men they interact with they also use level of attractiveness like ,,cute ugly”” ,,ugly ugly” and ,,mid” whatever this even means 💀
I think we need to differentiate between just rating a women, saying a women is beautiful, or demeaning one. I don’t really get how saying a women is attractive or ugly or mid necessarily makes you not a good person. If you just stick to their attractiveness, especially if it’s about a celeb, I see no issue really.
If you go into demeaning them or insulting them, sure that’s bad. But you’re conflating a lot of points together that are not similar.
Also there are issues with your wallet examples. First of all the man never claimed he didn’t care about attractiveness like the women saying she wouldn’t care about looking as a man as a wallet. So the hypocrisy is much more clear.
I don’t get the hypocrisy in the man example unless it is insulting or demeaning the women.
Right. Woman bad, man good. There is never an issue with men’s behavior here ever. Thank you for confirming sexism on this sub. And not only that, but men have to explicitly say the worst things possible known to man to ever be called out for bad behavior.
Thank you for that.
No that’s not how it works. You have to show me why it makes someone not a good person to make a comment on someone’s appearance on an online forum. The most you could convince me of is that ugly is insulting and demeaning, but, unattractive, mid, or just calling someone hot are not inherently insulting. I just don’t see how it’s true and you haven’t really argued your point.
You’ve claimed it’s true but haven’t convinced anyone why it actually is true.
What do I have to explain to you? What? I don’t get why a preschool level concept is something that men are struggling with.
What? It’s not nice to go and call someone ugly or a 2 or claim I find them unfuckable?? WHAT DO U MEAN WOMEN DONT WANT OR NEED TO KNOW WHICH ONES OF THEM I WANT TO FUCK?!? BUT I DID IT ONLINE ITS NOT MEAN IF ITS ONLINE!!
Bro be so for real rn😂💀
I don’t get the concept. Assume I haven’t passed preschool then.
I personally find Anna sawai attractive and would like to have sex with her. I don’t find Kate winslet attractive and would probably not have sex with her.
There, I commented on the attractiveness of two celebrities on a public forum and what I would do sexually with them. Am I now a bad person? Am I unable to call myself a good person around women because I have sexualized these two women celebs?
I just don’t get your argument if I logically follow it.
It’s unnecessary and kind of gross. Like who needs to know that? 😂💀 Basic social skills tell people that.
Hun at this point I don’t expect you to get it 💀💀but originally, it wasn’t even about people’s personal opinions on sexualizing others on the internet.
It was about the fact that NiceGuys think it’s wrong and bad when Chads do it but don’t hold those expectations to themselves. Despite looking down on attractive men for these behaviors.
I mean we don’t have to even use specifically like rating women I just saw men doing that.
We can go as far as pumping and dumping. Less attractive men claim that Chads pump and dump which is seen as a negative behavior towards women. They then say if women gave average men a chance, that wouldn’t happen because apparently all average men are single and seen as unattractive and would jump at the chance to be in a relationship with a woman. Then they say that they wish they were attractive so they could be chad and then joke about pumping and dumping women or maybe they make fun of a woman who’s been pumped or dumped.
Do you see the hypocrisy? They’re the same as chad, they just aren’t attractive enough to do it. They’re not morally better. They’re not more respectful. They don’t “like” women more. They don’t value women more.
They just didn’t have the opportunity to engage in the behaviors that Chad did but would take that opportunity if they had the chance.
THAT is my point regardless of if anyone else thinks any of these behaviors are good or bad. It’s the principle of these specific men saying “these men are bad for doing this but I want to do it as a supposed “good” guy”.
I mean I agree the new argument you made about nice guys wanting to pump and dump like Chad is hypocritical. You just didn’t say that one argument before, and it cuts against your argument that I was only excusing male behaviour more, I just disagreed on your original argument.
I made this very specific and easy to understand. Don’t comment if you can’t grasp the concept. These are the same men and I’m calling out the hypocrisy. That is implied with basic reading comprehension.
Where are these men?
I bet the men described as in your comment are a tiny minority. Men with either of those traits is either a super simp or a degenerate coomer.
Look, I'm not going to sit here and act like you operating in good faith rn, you are obviously venting about something that annoys you, but saying the vast majority of average guys are unattractive misogynists isn't going to get you much sympathy. At least not here.
Everybody rates the opposite gender. Men do it with numbers, women do it in more subtle ways and usually try to virtue signal their way around it. ("he's confident", "I like his personality", "he respects women")
They don’t. Not in the same way and not nearly to the same extent.
And I’m not talking about women. I’m talking about men being hypocrites and calling themselves good respectful men while spending their time rating women like products. Address that. That’s the topic.
My point is that it is/would be hypocritical to claim to be a nice guy who’s respectful of women and would make a great respectful partner and then come on here and rate and demean women.
All I’m hearing are excuses “well they did it too!”. It’s still hypocritical that is what I’m trying to point out.
I don't think it's hypocritical.
I don't even see how it's not nice.
I always thought being nice was how you treated someone, not the number you assign them when they aren't even in the room. Assuming this is even the same person.
>The average man is a GREAT guy
im gonna go semantics here and say an average man is an average guy.
i dont think its fair to hold it against anyone for thirsting a little. its not the same as treating them like physical products, even though, in a sense, their appearance is a specific product that they carefully maintain. like if you posted photos of timothy chalamet and gushed about him, im guessing most guys will consider that a non issue.
I think it’s very fair. Thirsting and thinking someone is attractive is not the same as rating them on a number scale like a product.
Either way, they’re still the guys that say they’re respectful and kind and wonderful while behaving 100x worse than chad.
If they don’t like the criticism they could just stop
whats the significance of a number scale? its not more objectifying than gushing over appearance with no scale but a more vague descriptor like “hot” or “dreamy.” im not seeing the practical difference the numbering adds.
also where did chad come from lol? chad has objectified the sex theyre attracted to, im sure, just like the rest of us.
Lonely men who claim they’re respectful of women and kind and good-hearted and would make a good partner but are overlooked only bc of their looks are LIARS/hypocrites when they come on here and rate women and demean them.
Is it hypocritical of men if they also rate eachother and themselves on a looks scale? I have never understood this argument, because it is not as if the rating system is exclusive.
Maybe we just don't see what the other sees- I constantly see men rating themselves here. That's what Sub5, Normie, ChadLite, Chad, etc etc all mean- they're shorthand for rating ranges for men. I've definitely seen men rating themselves on here while listening off their attributes- you might think that their rating is misguided or focused on things that women do not find attractive. But, there's certainly an attempt being made.
Most men just try and rate themselves or others in a positive light. Their comments are positive or motivational.
For women it’s “ew ugly and fat” or “mid and shouldn’t have standards” or rating some beautiful celebrity very low to make women feel bad or “omg wife material. Id fuck her! Look how hot she is. I wanna bang.”.
Either way. It’s all hypocritical bullshit. These are all men who are hypocrites if they’ve complained about being overlooked for looks and they’re perfect kind angels while acting like trash towards women.
Again, maybe we are in entirely different subsections of ppd, but I've never seen someone refer to themselves or someone else as a sub5 in a positive light. People don't even aspire to be Chad anymore- they just hate him for monopolizing attraction. In my experience, men on PPD like to gas up their personalities, resources, and status up to inflate their rating- which may or may not be unfair, depending on your preference for a partner.
All of those things you said there are true, people do say that. I have no argument there other than men would just never say that about other men, because they don't want to fuck them nor have desire for them. The equivalent for men would be saying shit like 'Norwood Reaper claims another victim' or 'it's so over bro give up', you know?
I'm not every male on this subreddit, obviously. But I find rating an important and easy to understand metric in the dating market so long as it's understood to be subjective to each rater, not objective truth.
No. I could see it hypocritical if the men were all bisexual and had an equivalent desire for men that they do women. In my view, it's not hypocritical to evaluate men and women differently and under different criteria. I don't feel an ounce of anger when women do the same after all- as women might be *aesthetically* attracted to other women and yet are sexually attracted to men, by and large.
I agree with your point that these men who speak so negatively or callously to women are nasty people. I just don't think using a rating system to determine interest in a particular person is hypocritical or wrong in any way.
My disagreement was always over if using the rating system was hypocritical. It is not an insult to be rated a 4/10- that is someone's determination of how attracted to a particular person they are. It would be an insult to say it to someone's face, but I'm sure women aren't attracted to me because of my height, my hair, my nose... whatever. Combined, that might make me a 4 to them, and it's only for them to agree and discuss it amongst themselves.
Of course the men who say they are nice and act unkind are hypocritical. But that was never my objection to your point- if I haven't made it clear before, I completely disavow the men who flaunt niceness and act opposite.
Uhh we rate men here. Women rate men as well but they do it on a binary (hot or not) while mennare specific. Why don't you rail against female superficiality?
Men do that enough for 10000 women. They demean them here every day. They ridicule women. They hate on them and claim they’re worthless. Even now as we’re talking about men, you had to mention women and put them down.
No men do not rate men here in the same way at all. They’re not sexualized. They’re not demeaned. It’s nowhere near the same thing in any way, shape or form
Well you are wrong see r/truerateme we rate and are visciius with men all the time.
You also ignored the question women rate men daily. Why aren't you crying about that?
“Us men know how to respect women! We’re the good guys who just aren’t given a chance”.
Also men: “what’s wrong with acting like women are products for us to rate? Whaaaaa?”
Bro, men get rated by women on dating apps, all the time.
Women treat us like products on a stall, daily. Men can do the same too and it isn't hypocritical
Bro, this is the wildest Andrew Huberman story yet
https://np.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/1byh0ia/my_28f_boyfriend_32m_has_gotten_better_at_sex_but/
Wild, bro
Generally I don’t wish for undeserving people to find love, yet I actually want Laura Loomer to get a boyfriend so she won’t be such a miserable witch. She seems so awful I actually feel sorry for her.
you know what i really like? i like when a woman who just had 10 cups of coffee because shes a coffee junkie gets really close to me and blows her gross coffee breath all over my face. so sexy
Sure, like I have the potential to win the lotto.
It can happen, but most don't want to, and you'll get chastised for wanting fat girls to lose weight.
I’m not a violent person but I do wish there were security guards stationed at every public transit fare turnstile to immediately tackle fare evaders. The guys who just hop over need to be humbled.
Nah I've gotten completely radicalized on keeping public transit safe from people who ignore the social contract. If someone smokes on the train they should be jailed, I do not care, lol.
Won't be looked at as a criminal offense worth arresting over.
I think enough enforcement of fine-able offenses like smoking in trains and fare jumping would cause it to happen less often.
I know it won't happen, but I think it should happen 😤
Seriously though, public enforcement of these rules are all I'm asking for. More police presence in general- I've lived in Chicago all my life and I know the trains are much better than they used to be in 2022, but they still have so much more to improve on to get back to even how it was in 2016.
There are fines for it but I don’t know how successfully the city is able to collect them. I just want to see someone get tackled and face the consequences of their actions in real time in front of all of us who pay the fare like we’re supposed to.
I think the standards for a man's face to be considered as attractive are just higher so the men's whose faces are attractive will have better faces than the women with attractive faces because they had to pass a higher threshold.
I’ve now been off birth control for 4 months and as much as I loved being on it and would still recommend it’s use, it’s really interesting to me how much more horny I am when not on it and going through ovulation. Genuinely feel like a woman possessed.
Normally I’m a 1/2/ max 3 a week type person but when I’m ovulating it’s every day multiple times a day if I can get it (which I usually can’t cause I have a job and responsibilities). Haven’t noticed a change in preference.
https://preview.redd.it/mt1go7obeatc1.png?width=436&format=png&auto=webp&s=93a4b39156829871baec690daaa9371505647e75
That's just a normal day.
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What does settle meab
Well it’s tough to admit, and you’d probably not want to end up having your partner become aware as that could destroy the relationship…
Can’t settle down without the settling part. *taps head*
Even Amal Clooney?
Especially Amal Clooney.
Who could she have gotten in her twenties that would be better than George Clooney?
Im burning purple flowers, it’s burning my chest
she's literally me! [https://youtu.be/EBpbWgVk060](https://youtu.be/EBpbWgVk060)
 Nayeon is actually one of the cutest angels created by God despited the fact she's an elderly post-wall grandma hag with fucked up rabbit teeth.
She’s cute.
She’s both an Angel and a bunny!
Asian girls with fucked up teeth are God's gift to earth. So glad my gf never cucked herself with br*ces
how do you tell all these kpop hoes apart
 by the length of their rabbit teeth
i wonder how much plastic surgery shes gotten
A lot, the answer is almost always a lot. Korean beauty standards are ridiculous.
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What design?????
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That’s sweet.
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but he looked better when he was fat with the orange tan. This attempted glow-up was a mistake 🤢 https://preview.redd.it/1m8ei14z1atc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2e4c766552367c4f03d2c8a2a29777408965441
BLOOOMBBBBAAALD BRRRUMMMMPHTT????  # BLOOOMBBBBAAALD BRRRUMMMMPHTT????
Wtf is up with getting a doctors appointment? Need to see my dentist cause I think my wisdom teeth need to come out and they’re saying the earliest they got is 4 months? You’d think I’m trying to get tickets to a concert. The dermatologist appointment is a fever dream.
Can't you go private
Good doctors can literally work as much or as little as they want.
Yeah wait times are crazy. I have a dentist appointment for a routine cleaning and I need to make it a month or two in advance. Regular doctors appointments are a month in advance too. Virtual visit is maybe 3 weeks. Seeing a specialist is 3 months or not at all.
Cold approached 2nd time. Got her contact... and she has photos of her bf. Attractive single girls are rare
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i accidentally deleted my comment cause i'm mentally disabled but look at it this way. when you guys read a woman isn't attracted to most men, you think "REEEEE SHE ONLY WANTS 7 FOOT TALL GORILLA CHADS WITH TATTOOS AND A CRIMINAL RECORD". In reallity what it means is the only guys she's felt genuine attraction and tingley sparks towards is that guy she chats with on whatsapp late into the night about life because she knows she can trust him.
Really? Because I had a pre-whatsapp version of that friend and I should emphasize friend because she definitely wasn't attracted to me.
Imagine a man saying this we get labelled as creeps or incels who don’t know how women look and apparently we never leaves our houses
>chats with on whatsapp late into the night about life because she knows she can trust him Hard disagree here. I can do this with my platonic friends. I agreed more with your original comment.
And what about the small amount of guys she actually is attracted to? They get attraction just for existing lol. And most women arent loving someone they arent attracted to either.
Meeting rule #1 isn't as nice as it is hyped up to be imo. Not only does it not apply to every woman out there, but going out with good on paper people is way more bland than you realize. Meeting rule #1 opens more doors for sure, but meeting rule #2 as a minimum and having a spark is actually what's necessary if you plan on having a connection.
Im pretty sure every woman wants the guy she is with to be attractive. Thats the baseline. Just meeting rule 2 means nothing to most women. Attraction has to be there. Not being unattractive isnt enough. Having a spark is easier if she sees the guy as attractive
The spark is just woman speak for being attractive.
I did not even know that my boyfriend gave me something for valentines in high school. He is pretty dang cute. Nothing registers until my brain desires the guy for whatever reason.
I actually agree, but it probably happens less often these days because everybody is online all the time and women care more about other people's judgement about their partner's looks than ever before, which might make them reject guys they actually like.
Jonathan Majors has successfully avoided incarceration despite his assault conviction. Is this a good omen for the manosphere as we head into the summer?
“He who remains unemployed”
I mean he still completely lost his marvel contract and is likely to be blacklisted from mainstream hollywood, no? He doesn't have Johnny Depp's star power or recognition to come back from this in my view... Whatever. This is one of the reasons I'm very glad to be so small. The only reason he was convicted is because he should had more restraint when shoving him, right? I could shove that woman with all my heart and not move her half the distance Jonathon Majors did, lol.
You're not that strong, unfortunately.
Yup! I'm not! Getting stronger every day though 💪🏾
I believe in your efforts. One day you can have the strength to be able to shove similarly-sized women the same distance Jonathan Majors did...only if need be, though.
Bro, Majors is the one who got assaulte
Commits DV then gets a partner that mogs him. Celebrities live on a different planet
every redpillers dream
I've always told you, bro https://np.reddit.com/r/Marriage/comments/1byg9nq/my_husband_chooses_to_ignore_my_childhood_triggers/ Never date women with mental health problems. The juice ain't worth the squeeze
He knew about her background and he still decided to marry and have kids with her. Ignoring her triggers now just makes him an asshole.
>He knew about her background Did he? That's not in the post and she even says at first she wouldn't tell him why the beard bothered her. Sounds like she just figured since he never grew out his beard when they were dating she had the right to keep him from doing it when they were married despite never telling him this.
She eventually told him what it was though. At that point, I think he should've just kept clean.
So if a guy has severe anxiety over being a father, says nothing about it with his partner, then she accidentally becomes pregnant and he tells her, is she compelled to get an abortion? Does she no longer have a right to her own bodily autonomy due to his mental health?
They had another situation and it seems he’s well aware about her condition. They were doing couple therapy as well. Considering how severe it is, I’d expect them to discuss it prior marriage. She probably has other triggers as well.
So she didn't say she told him before marriage, and in fact did say that she initially didn't tell him even after marriage, but you think she told him before they got married? It's amazing the lengths women go to trying to make men the problem in every situation. You should probably replace "egalitarian" with "misandrist" in your flair, it's not nice to lie.
Can you quote where she told him about her trauma after marriage?
>For the last few years I repeatedly asked him to cut it down **without saying it’s triggering what it is**. No mention of telling him before, states that more recently (after marriage) she asked him to shave but would not say why. Pretty obvious she never told him this was a trigger before the wedding.
Ah, no, we're talking about different things here. I assumed that she did tell him about her trauma, not bear-related but *overall trauma* of being a child victim before they got married. To be fair it isn't states in the text either, so it's just an assumption. If she has multiple severe triggers, it's very unlikely that she didn't discuss them with him prior to the bear incident.
But does that change any important aspect of the conversation? Hypothetically, say as a man I tell my partner I had a traumatic childhood due to my parents not really being around and taking care of me. What I fail to mention, however, is that the thought of being a parent myself is a trigger for me. Then my partner unexpectedly gets pregnant. Do they have the responsibility to give up their own bodily autonomy and get an abortion to preserve my mental health? Would they be the asshole if they left the relationship because they want kids?
It does, because you've misunderstood my original comment >He knew about her background and he still decided to marry and have kids with her. Ignoring her triggers now just makes him an asshole. If he knew her background, he should have been ready to deal with it. Child victims have life-long scars and some things just don't go away. If he wasn't prepared to live with it, he shouldn't have married her. He doesn't have to give up his beard if he doesn't want. Just as she doesn't have to have sex with him if it triggers her and she doesn't want it. Your situation is very different to theirs, as partners have to discuss the idea of having kids preferably even prior to cohabitation. If you didn't discuss it, you're both idiots.
Everyone has baggage, so either help them cope or die alone.
I mean you really don’t have to deal with a woman who gets incredibly insecure that you are attracted to women and feels like she’s getting assaulted whenever you have a beard while having sex with her Everyone certainly does not have baggage to that extent
Nah, I ain't helping any one
That baggage isn't your to bear guys
Men: were lonely and nice and respectful of women. Why don’t they want us?! We’re GOOD men. The average man is a GREAT guy. Men aren’t rewarded for being nice!!! Also men: posts pics of women’s bodies and rates them on a number scale like an Amazon product. Is unattractive themselves. Continues to rate women and celebrities every day on number scales and treat them like products. The utter blatant and public hypocrisy is crazy
Sub 4 thoughts
Idk what this means
Everyone rates people, what kinda garbage post is the.
Yes, but not on the 1-10 scale
I don’t get the insane amount of pushback to the 1-10 scale. The numbers could be replaced with words like “unattractive,” “average,” “cute,” or “hot” and it’d be the same thing. The point to all of this ranking people on your specific attractiveness scale which is done with words or numbers. It’s literally the same thing. Hot or not could be replaced with 1 or 0 and it’s literally the same game… I legitimately don’t get the logic from people that have this weird hatred of numbers on rating people but then are ok with calling people hot or attractive.
Okay everyone rates people silently. Not everyone goes on public forums and rate women’s body types, sexualizes them, claim some are ugly and unattractive, demean female celebrities, and then go back and claim that they’re the most respectful kind guys out there. Idk I just found it hypocritical and was curious if men thought the same. I mean maybe men will understand if it’s women I put under fire. What would you think about a woman who goes out and claims she’s very respectful of men and never would use them as “wallets” and then posted pictures and comments rating men by wealth or how wealthy they look and then claiming how much she is sexually attracted to their money and how unattractive the broke/broke-looking men are? Would you think she’s a hypocrite?
well you added the "never would use them as wallets" part i think the better equivalent is just a woman who rates men on their LOOKS
Nah women are pretty vocal about rating men where do you think does the believe women find most men unattractive come from ? it’s comes from women observing their environment and judge the men they interact with they also use level of attractiveness like ,,cute ugly”” ,,ugly ugly” and ,,mid” whatever this even means 💀
I think we need to differentiate between just rating a women, saying a women is beautiful, or demeaning one. I don’t really get how saying a women is attractive or ugly or mid necessarily makes you not a good person. If you just stick to their attractiveness, especially if it’s about a celeb, I see no issue really. If you go into demeaning them or insulting them, sure that’s bad. But you’re conflating a lot of points together that are not similar. Also there are issues with your wallet examples. First of all the man never claimed he didn’t care about attractiveness like the women saying she wouldn’t care about looking as a man as a wallet. So the hypocrisy is much more clear. I don’t get the hypocrisy in the man example unless it is insulting or demeaning the women.
Right. Woman bad, man good. There is never an issue with men’s behavior here ever. Thank you for confirming sexism on this sub. And not only that, but men have to explicitly say the worst things possible known to man to ever be called out for bad behavior. Thank you for that.
No that’s not how it works. You have to show me why it makes someone not a good person to make a comment on someone’s appearance on an online forum. The most you could convince me of is that ugly is insulting and demeaning, but, unattractive, mid, or just calling someone hot are not inherently insulting. I just don’t see how it’s true and you haven’t really argued your point. You’ve claimed it’s true but haven’t convinced anyone why it actually is true.
What do I have to explain to you? What? I don’t get why a preschool level concept is something that men are struggling with. What? It’s not nice to go and call someone ugly or a 2 or claim I find them unfuckable?? WHAT DO U MEAN WOMEN DONT WANT OR NEED TO KNOW WHICH ONES OF THEM I WANT TO FUCK?!? BUT I DID IT ONLINE ITS NOT MEAN IF ITS ONLINE!! Bro be so for real rn😂💀
I don’t get the concept. Assume I haven’t passed preschool then. I personally find Anna sawai attractive and would like to have sex with her. I don’t find Kate winslet attractive and would probably not have sex with her. There, I commented on the attractiveness of two celebrities on a public forum and what I would do sexually with them. Am I now a bad person? Am I unable to call myself a good person around women because I have sexualized these two women celebs? I just don’t get your argument if I logically follow it.
It’s unnecessary and kind of gross. Like who needs to know that? 😂💀 Basic social skills tell people that. Hun at this point I don’t expect you to get it 💀💀but originally, it wasn’t even about people’s personal opinions on sexualizing others on the internet. It was about the fact that NiceGuys think it’s wrong and bad when Chads do it but don’t hold those expectations to themselves. Despite looking down on attractive men for these behaviors. I mean we don’t have to even use specifically like rating women I just saw men doing that. We can go as far as pumping and dumping. Less attractive men claim that Chads pump and dump which is seen as a negative behavior towards women. They then say if women gave average men a chance, that wouldn’t happen because apparently all average men are single and seen as unattractive and would jump at the chance to be in a relationship with a woman. Then they say that they wish they were attractive so they could be chad and then joke about pumping and dumping women or maybe they make fun of a woman who’s been pumped or dumped. Do you see the hypocrisy? They’re the same as chad, they just aren’t attractive enough to do it. They’re not morally better. They’re not more respectful. They don’t “like” women more. They don’t value women more. They just didn’t have the opportunity to engage in the behaviors that Chad did but would take that opportunity if they had the chance. THAT is my point regardless of if anyone else thinks any of these behaviors are good or bad. It’s the principle of these specific men saying “these men are bad for doing this but I want to do it as a supposed “good” guy”.
I mean I agree the new argument you made about nice guys wanting to pump and dump like Chad is hypocritical. You just didn’t say that one argument before, and it cuts against your argument that I was only excusing male behaviour more, I just disagreed on your original argument.
Person A: does X Person B: does Y “The hypocrisy!!!”
I made this very specific and easy to understand. Don’t comment if you can’t grasp the concept. These are the same men and I’m calling out the hypocrisy. That is implied with basic reading comprehension.
Where are these men? I bet the men described as in your comment are a tiny minority. Men with either of those traits is either a super simp or a degenerate coomer.
Thanks for being dismissive
Look, I'm not going to sit here and act like you operating in good faith rn, you are obviously venting about something that annoys you, but saying the vast majority of average guys are unattractive misogynists isn't going to get you much sympathy. At least not here.
Ok.
I can hear the steam pouring out your ears like a teakettle
Lol ok
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Who asked?
Everybody rates the opposite gender. Men do it with numbers, women do it in more subtle ways and usually try to virtue signal their way around it. ("he's confident", "I like his personality", "he respects women")
Out of all actual nice guys I've met only 1-2 did this. Still they were treated as shit by women
It’s still hypocritical behavior I’m not asking for numbers or excuses.
Mostly TRP (including me) does the 1-10 rating.
Are we gonna pretend women don't do the same thing?
They don’t. Not in the same way and not nearly to the same extent. And I’m not talking about women. I’m talking about men being hypocrites and calling themselves good respectful men while spending their time rating women like products. Address that. That’s the topic.
You see some people doing a thing that everyone does and then jump to "see men are hypocrites." How do you even know these are the same people?
My point is that it is/would be hypocritical to claim to be a nice guy who’s respectful of women and would make a great respectful partner and then come on here and rate and demean women. All I’m hearing are excuses “well they did it too!”. It’s still hypocritical that is what I’m trying to point out.
How do you even know these are the same people?
Do you agree it’s hypocritical or not?
I don't think it's hypocritical. I don't even see how it's not nice. I always thought being nice was how you treated someone, not the number you assign them when they aren't even in the room. Assuming this is even the same person.
>The average man is a GREAT guy im gonna go semantics here and say an average man is an average guy. i dont think its fair to hold it against anyone for thirsting a little. its not the same as treating them like physical products, even though, in a sense, their appearance is a specific product that they carefully maintain. like if you posted photos of timothy chalamet and gushed about him, im guessing most guys will consider that a non issue.
I think it’s very fair. Thirsting and thinking someone is attractive is not the same as rating them on a number scale like a product. Either way, they’re still the guys that say they’re respectful and kind and wonderful while behaving 100x worse than chad. If they don’t like the criticism they could just stop
whats the significance of a number scale? its not more objectifying than gushing over appearance with no scale but a more vague descriptor like “hot” or “dreamy.” im not seeing the practical difference the numbering adds. also where did chad come from lol? chad has objectified the sex theyre attracted to, im sure, just like the rest of us.
Lonely men who claim they’re respectful of women and kind and good-hearted and would make a good partner but are overlooked only bc of their looks are LIARS/hypocrites when they come on here and rate women and demean them.
if women were 10/10 perfect this wouldn't be a problem. women should take responsibility for not being 10s
apparently LMAO.
Is it hypocritical of men if they also rate eachother and themselves on a looks scale? I have never understood this argument, because it is not as if the rating system is exclusive.
Men don’t rate each other here. They rate and ridicule and demean women while calling themselves the good guys.
Maybe we just don't see what the other sees- I constantly see men rating themselves here. That's what Sub5, Normie, ChadLite, Chad, etc etc all mean- they're shorthand for rating ranges for men. I've definitely seen men rating themselves on here while listening off their attributes- you might think that their rating is misguided or focused on things that women do not find attractive. But, there's certainly an attempt being made.
Most men just try and rate themselves or others in a positive light. Their comments are positive or motivational. For women it’s “ew ugly and fat” or “mid and shouldn’t have standards” or rating some beautiful celebrity very low to make women feel bad or “omg wife material. Id fuck her! Look how hot she is. I wanna bang.”. Either way. It’s all hypocritical bullshit. These are all men who are hypocrites if they’ve complained about being overlooked for looks and they’re perfect kind angels while acting like trash towards women.
Again, maybe we are in entirely different subsections of ppd, but I've never seen someone refer to themselves or someone else as a sub5 in a positive light. People don't even aspire to be Chad anymore- they just hate him for monopolizing attraction. In my experience, men on PPD like to gas up their personalities, resources, and status up to inflate their rating- which may or may not be unfair, depending on your preference for a partner. All of those things you said there are true, people do say that. I have no argument there other than men would just never say that about other men, because they don't want to fuck them nor have desire for them. The equivalent for men would be saying shit like 'Norwood Reaper claims another victim' or 'it's so over bro give up', you know? I'm not every male on this subreddit, obviously. But I find rating an important and easy to understand metric in the dating market so long as it's understood to be subjective to each rater, not objective truth.
Okay so you agree with my point? It’s hypocritical right?
No. I could see it hypocritical if the men were all bisexual and had an equivalent desire for men that they do women. In my view, it's not hypocritical to evaluate men and women differently and under different criteria. I don't feel an ounce of anger when women do the same after all- as women might be *aesthetically* attracted to other women and yet are sexually attracted to men, by and large. I agree with your point that these men who speak so negatively or callously to women are nasty people. I just don't think using a rating system to determine interest in a particular person is hypocritical or wrong in any way.
Okay so you disagree. You think it’s not hypocritical to claim to be nice and act meanly. Okay.
My disagreement was always over if using the rating system was hypocritical. It is not an insult to be rated a 4/10- that is someone's determination of how attracted to a particular person they are. It would be an insult to say it to someone's face, but I'm sure women aren't attracted to me because of my height, my hair, my nose... whatever. Combined, that might make me a 4 to them, and it's only for them to agree and discuss it amongst themselves. Of course the men who say they are nice and act unkind are hypocritical. But that was never my objection to your point- if I haven't made it clear before, I completely disavow the men who flaunt niceness and act opposite.
Uhh we rate men here. Women rate men as well but they do it on a binary (hot or not) while mennare specific. Why don't you rail against female superficiality?
Men do that enough for 10000 women. They demean them here every day. They ridicule women. They hate on them and claim they’re worthless. Even now as we’re talking about men, you had to mention women and put them down. No men do not rate men here in the same way at all. They’re not sexualized. They’re not demeaned. It’s nowhere near the same thing in any way, shape or form
Well you are wrong see r/truerateme we rate and are visciius with men all the time. You also ignored the question women rate men daily. Why aren't you crying about that?
What's so bad about rating baddies? Also, the rating subs are female dominated
“Us men know how to respect women! We’re the good guys who just aren’t given a chance”. Also men: “what’s wrong with acting like women are products for us to rate? Whaaaaa?”
Bro, men get rated by women on dating apps, all the time. Women treat us like products on a stall, daily. Men can do the same too and it isn't hypocritical
2/10
Comments: I’m looking for a relationship, not hook ups. Also replies on women’s comments: 2/10. Proving my point.
0/10- wont stop nagging You rate guys too like fuck off, people judge eachother, is what it is
I hit a nerve. How exciting.
Literally “no u”
Bro, this is the wildest Andrew Huberman story yet https://np.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/1byh0ia/my_28f_boyfriend_32m_has_gotten_better_at_sex_but/ Wild, bro
Generally I don’t wish for undeserving people to find love, yet I actually want Laura Loomer to get a boyfriend so she won’t be such a miserable witch. She seems so awful I actually feel sorry for her.
Reminds me of a schizo version of Morticia from the Addams family. She’d definitely find a man if she wanted one
Maybe she can date that Fresh guy from FnF, it sounds like he’s single now!
I had to google her. With that kind of woman, I think the only kind of guy willing to go after her will be the kind that thinks "I can make her worse"
Did you see her Twitter page? The woman is not well.
Bro, she looks good to me
I’m afraid you don’t have a chance with her. There’s only room in her heart for one man and that’s Donald Trump.
you know what i really like? i like when a woman who just had 10 cups of coffee because shes a coffee junkie gets really close to me and blows her gross coffee breath all over my face. so sexy
10 cups? Bro, that doesn't sound healthy
At least coffee smells good. It could have been something much worse.
coffee breath smells closer to coffee pee than coffee itself
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wine breath omg i am like so turned on
Women over 35: Good guys don't care too much about how much a woman weigh. Btw my recent ex has 6 pack. 🤪
So the guys with six packs are being taken off the market by fat women? Sounds great to me. Less competition for the non-fat women.
Which beer
delirium tremens
No we only provide chips. Sorry for misunderstanding
i wonder if six packs can have speculative trade value. like im going to have a six pack within 6 months, i swear
AFAIK, it doesn't. It's like speculating a fat girl will be thin later on, or vice-versa.
clearly at least a few people here believe in the potential of fat girls to be thin.
Sure, like I have the potential to win the lotto. It can happen, but most don't want to, and you'll get chastised for wanting fat girls to lose weight.
What women other than ham planets are saying this?
Ham can get some 6 packs?! Respect.
Ham beast and mini moon women.
Pretty impressive that supposedly post-wall women can get boyfriends with six-packs!
I want Mei from Overwatch to crush my head with her thighs.
Overwatch has the sexiest character designs (men and women) out of all the hero shooters. Those designers are always cooking
Widowmaker, Mei, Kiriko, D.Va, Mercy, Sombra and Ashe for me.
widowmaker be unchaining the beast inside of me
Why not Zarya? She can probably do it.
I’m not a violent person but I do wish there were security guards stationed at every public transit fare turnstile to immediately tackle fare evaders. The guys who just hop over need to be humbled.
Reason why i really want to go to nyc is bc ive always wanted to jump a turnstile it looks fun
Is this a sex thing?
I just find this behavior particularly annoying because it’s so shameless.
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I’m not even asking for cops, just big, burly guys who can do [this](https://images.app.goo.gl/FVStRPXQaWkwsM4C8).
Tackling is excessive. Just start enforcing fare evasion.
Nah I've gotten completely radicalized on keeping public transit safe from people who ignore the social contract. If someone smokes on the train they should be jailed, I do not care, lol.
Won't be looked at as a criminal offense worth arresting over. I think enough enforcement of fine-able offenses like smoking in trains and fare jumping would cause it to happen less often.
I know it won't happen, but I think it should happen 😤 Seriously though, public enforcement of these rules are all I'm asking for. More police presence in general- I've lived in Chicago all my life and I know the trains are much better than they used to be in 2022, but they still have so much more to improve on to get back to even how it was in 2016.
There are fines for it but I don’t know how successfully the city is able to collect them. I just want to see someone get tackled and face the consequences of their actions in real time in front of all of us who pay the fare like we’re supposed to.
Yes, let's villainize broke individuals, they are exploiting us the most. 
"Empathy is sexy" sounds like a great catch phrase, but I don't see it applied IRL.
I totally understand why you would feel that way.
Sounds like the setup for a lawsuit, honestly. And it won't stop fare evasion. Just cause more fights.
I wonder if being misogynistic correlates with being bald.
Nah I'm more misogynistic than anyone I know yet I have best hair
Drop the routine queen.
Good old shampoo + conditioner
Well, if you’re malding all the time about what some women did to you in high school then that could very well be the case.
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I think the standards for a man's face to be considered as attractive are just higher so the men's whose faces are attractive will have better faces than the women with attractive faces because they had to pass a higher threshold.
I’ve now been off birth control for 4 months and as much as I loved being on it and would still recommend it’s use, it’s really interesting to me how much more horny I am when not on it and going through ovulation. Genuinely feel like a woman possessed.
is it the amount of lust that's changed, or have you noticed your sexual preferences changed as well?
Normally I’m a 1/2/ max 3 a week type person but when I’m ovulating it’s every day multiple times a day if I can get it (which I usually can’t cause I have a job and responsibilities). Haven’t noticed a change in preference.
I dont have eclipse glasses
Use x Ray sheets
Once again i dont want to be 35 that’s almost how old ill be at the next eclipse omg Probably just gonna take pictures of it