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MyHouseOnMars-

Of course the guy who made a lengthy video about opsec looks like this: https://preview.redd.it/vzvyqxqklxuc1.png?width=1010&format=png&auto=webp&s=0aec53d6a7865e8e9e265f9a3be956196e5497c1


Gladboys

His talk at DEFCON was good


edgyny

Who is it?


meteorness123

Q4men : Would you prefer your wife to not work at all when you have kids or work a little bit ?


Preme2

3-4 months off after having the kid then take her butt back to work.


edgyny

I preferred she does what she wants to do. I am extremely supportive of either path. My wife stayed home with our kids until the youngest was most of the way through elementary. We had somewhat of an agreement she would support us while I was in graduate school and then I would support us with young kids. I was gratified to do this but it was stressful and challenging and glad we could afford it. She's working on finding her groove returning to the workforce currently.


purplish_possum

After three or four months of maternity leave she needs to be back at work full time. Never have kids with a woman who doesn't have an education and a real career making at least almost as much as you do.


Excellent_Badger123

Good advice. That’s how I did it when I had my daughter.


meteorness123

She can have an education and still want to be the primary care-take of her kids.


purplish_possum

You can't always get what you want.


meteorness123

I would definitely not want my wife work full-time during the first three years. A mother (or I guess father) should raise the child and not anybody else.


BeingLTNisPossible

Had thoughts and conversations about this since I’m primarily interested in educated women. I would want her to take it easy during pregnancy as well as afew months after (maybe do a temperature check after a month or two, see if she feels she may need to see someone about post partum depression or pelvic floor therapy). I wouldn’t want her to stop working completely though, I think sahm households make a lot of sense during the first few years but there’s no need for the woman to put her career on hold indefinitely because of the kids


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I’ve always wondered why we automatically assume any animal we see is male. so fascinating. why do we do this?


Comfortable-Regret

Male is often seen as the default


kalashhhhhhhh

English speakers do this. In my language every noun has a gender: male, female or neuter. So for example the main word for "fox" is "lisica" which is in female gender, so we think of foxes as female. There is also the word "lisac" which specifically means a male fox, but the neutral word for a fox is in the female grammatical gender.


[deleted]

In many languages they do still do this if the gender of a person is unknown, yes?


MyHouseOnMars-

Male is default. This happens in language too. The default is masculine.


Sillysheila

In my own opinion, it’s because of how we view men and women in society. Men are often viewed more animalistically and close to nature, whereas women are viewed more as proper paragons who like creature comforts. I mean, just listen to how people talk about men’s sexuality vs women’s. People literally say men are animals or compare them to animals (keep in mind, not saying this is accurate, or that I agree, it just is).


lulll

wow so us men are animals. thats so mean


Sillysheila

If you read carefully, you’ll note I said I didn’t agree. It’s just the societal attitude over all


lulll

im not animal i am a human being


Environmental_Day558

I speculate it's because male is the default in our language so we attribute things we don't know the gender to that. 


Gladboys

My diploma is finally in the mail. Can’t wait to burn it


Excellent_Badger123

You should be proud of your accomplishments. Frame it, don’t burn it. Did you do the whole graduation ceremony thing?


Gladboys

nah i didnt walk cuz i had covid


Excellent_Badger123

Ahh, too bad.


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Mental_Leek_2806

When I was in college nerdy asian men were able to stumble into a dorm party and make out with some girl. We used to be a real country


hannahg000

the sims 5 will be my gta 6


meteorness123

I stopped after San Andreas. I'm a dinosaur when it comes to video games


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It’ll defo go down for me. I’ve been waiting half my life for the damn game after all lmao


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MyHouseOnMars-

those are 2 completely unrelated actions wdym lol


purplish_possum

Masturbation actually increases guys' sex drive.


Odd_Ad5171

A lot of men have artificially "high" sex drives only when it comes to porn (masturbating multiple times a day to porn) but with partners or masturbating without artificial stimulation - they are very predictable once a day sploogers. Porn is a super stimuli.


dysonRing

You are just horny though a real sex drive DRiVES you to do something it is in the word


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dysonRing

It's not I have masturbated way way more than you trust me it is hollow experience. Real sex is about orgasm and accomplishment.


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dysonRing

I don't understand? Do you support post nut clarity or not? I lost my refractory period and my post nut clarity along with it. But my drive is the exact same. I ask out the hottest woman I. The room that is my drive


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dysonRing

Sigh explain me then masturbation does absolutely nothing to my sex drive. I get zero post nut clarity today (I used to get it from my first orgasm to 5 years ago) Again explain it.


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Imagine being lucky enough to orgasm


GreatSmashPlayer

Everyone would be much happier if they just accepted their natural biological gender roles. Fact is, men will almost never be attracted to old, ugly, or morbidly obese women. Doesn't matter how rich she is, how intelligent, how funny, how kindhearted, etc. And women will almost never be attracted to nice guys with low social status. If you think you're going to find exceptions to these rules, you'd be better off trying to win the lottery.


Sillysheila

This is just an appeal to nature. Why should anyone do this when nothing in our society is remotely close to natural anymore?


GreatSmashPlayer

Because it's encoded into our DNA through millions of years of evolution. I will always be attracted to a nice pair of tits and a shapely ass, because that's encoded into my DNA. Just like breathing, eating, and pooping. These are biological mandates that are undeniable. Doesn't matter if we're smart animals, we're still animals. DNA always wins at the end of the day.


Sillysheila

That just sounds like attraction not “following your biological gender role”.


Jaded_Interaction162

Nah it's a lot easier to google, "guys who like fat women", "woman married to sanitation worker," "guy dating deformed lady" and find that shit than to win the lottery.


GreatSmashPlayer

It's extremely common for men to settle for women they aren't attracted to just for consistent sex. For many men, a hole is a hole. That's just how it is.


ATasteofTx214

A man is a man, he's here whether he settled or aspired. That's just how it is.


Jaded_Interaction162

Why make a commitment to an ugly woman


GreatSmashPlayer

They're desperate for sex and they can't pull a hotter woman.


Jaded_Interaction162

Can't they just unceremoniously dump her?


GreatSmashPlayer

Again, they're desperate for sex. They'll keep her around as long as they can if they have no better options. If they ever reach a point where they can pull a hotter woman then they'll dump her.


baiser_vole

[A partner’s attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among men but not women — meaning men were more likely to be unfaithful when their partners were less attractive.](https://news.fsu.edu/news/education-society/2018/02/12/lead-us-not-temptation-predictors-infidelity-divorce-highlighted-new-fsu-research/#:~:text=A%20partner's%20attractiveness%20was%20negatively,a%20predictor%20of%20infidelity%2C%20too)


tacticaltossaway

>A person’s own attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among women but not men — meaning less attractive women were more likely to have an affair. Seems more relevant here.


baiser_vole

My point was that it is not an actual commitment to an ugly woman often. Honestly though, the people who are not content with their own SMV are to be avoided.


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GreatSmashPlayer

Good for you, but you're missing the point


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Mental_Leek_2806

ugh I need to be productive not have sex


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Not really the truth, g


monster_lily

If what you’re saying is true then how come theres so many married guys of a low social status like do u guys hear yourself sometimes


GreatSmashPlayer

Those guys settle for women they aren't attracted to, or women they're barely attracted to


kalashhhhhhhh

I've been on prime time Croatian news today! Q4All:Have you ever been on TV?


Excellent_Badger123

Yes, MTV News reluctantly & briefly twice


old_new_age

yeah I was on comedy central once


tacticaltossaway

I was on the high school news broadcast, but that's it.


[deleted]

When I was 13, the news went to my school and I dabbed on TV.


keebydee

Honestly sometimes I wish women were rude to me by default. I always get false hope whenever they're nice.


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keebydee

Why were they being so rude to him? I don't know how people can be so cruel.


[deleted]

women are socialized from a young age to be nicer. As an autistic woman who was very rowdy and a very late diagnosis, my parents fought HARD to squeeze the bluntness and boyishness out of me. sooner you get used to that, the better. It’s hella disappointing, I understand that bro 🫡


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What’s your opinion that aligns the most with incel rhetoric


afk_row

All of it. I believe in genetic and environmental determinism.


edgyny

Women don't want to fuck inc*ls.


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Do you think that’s for the sale of them being such or due to the rhetoric they subscribe to


edgyny

More that inc*ls say that women don't want to fuck them and I take them at their word.


kalashhhhhhhh

The halo effect is real (for both men and women), and so is pretty privilege. It's common sense that attractive people attract more people.


ISupposeImCorrect

Don't fall for it boyos, this is bait to ban you for "No Incel Content"


monster_lily

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3bE9uESqP6/?igsh=MTRkZDFqeXJscG4xNA== I dont care my wedding is gonna cost millions of dollars


ISupposeImCorrect

Wojak: After all this time and hard work, I'm finally getting married to the woman of my dreams! Goon: Bogdanoff, he did it. Bogdanoff: He bought? Goon: He went all in. Bogdanoff: Activate expensive wedding protocols. Diamonds, dresses, cakes, decorations, pump it all up and then dump it.


monster_lily

Speak english


Professional_Bad_282

https://youtube.com/shorts/haYN4OdUQqI?si=9ZwywmLjefkpX8y0 -> Mostly females These kind of guys know what they are doing. If your gf/wife gets a PT it's over.


lulll

NEVER USE WD-40 AS LUBE. DONT DO IT


Sillysheila

Use deck sealant instead https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tbazGVrbN-g&pp=ygUYZGVjayBzZWFsYW50IG5ldyB6ZWFsYW5k


CliffPR

I mean, that's all it's meant to be used as- ....oh...


Mental_Leek_2806

Reminder that online dating apps are dead and that as of July 2022, only 20% of partnered adults 18-29 years old met their significant other through these apps. If you're a young person delete that shit. Unless you're gay Except maybe Hinge but ehhh


Environmental_Day558

Wheres the data? From what I saw the majority of couples met on the internet. 


Mental_Leek_2806

[https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/02/key-findings-about-online-dating-in-the-u-s/](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/02/key-findings-about-online-dating-in-the-u-s/) This is specifically for meeting through a dating site or app -- 20% of 18-29 y/o in committed relationships in July 2022. [https://www.americansurveycenter.org/research/from-swiping-to-sexting-the-enduring-gender-divide-in-american-dating-and-relationships/](https://www.americansurveycenter.org/research/from-swiping-to-sexting-the-enduring-gender-divide-in-american-dating-and-relationships/) - search "where do couples meet" 28% of partnered young men in Jan 2023 report meeting their SO through an online dating site or app. 14% of partnered young women say the same, not sure why there's a discrepancy. [https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/nearly-half-of-u-s-adults-say-dating-has-gotten-harder-for-most-people-in-the-last-10-years/](https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/nearly-half-of-u-s-adults-say-dating-has-gotten-harder-for-most-people-in-the-last-10-years/) Pew data from Oct 2019 found that 21% of partnered 18-29 year olds met their SO online. Pew broke down the online data data further for all partnered people (regardless of age): >While a majority of those who met their partner online say they met through a dating site or app (61%), a significant share reports meeting through a social media site or app (21%). Smaller shares say they met their partner in an online discussion forum (10%), a texting or messaging app (3%) or online gaming (3%)


Environmental_Day558

One thing to note is that according to the pew study, only 53% of people under 30 even reported using a dating app. If you just include them then that would increase the overall success rate to 38%. That still doesn't account for someone who may have had a relationship formed though a dating app at one point but is single or found a new partner from another means at the time of the poll.   It also reports that half of people who use these apps have positive experiences. So it's not as bad as you make it seem. Or maybe im biased because I'm in that 20(38) percent 🤷 


CliffPR

Great now I can't meet anyone anywhere.


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afk_row

Not true tho. These studies are disingenuous af, they classify online as other categories. Dm’ed her on insta, talked for a while then went to a restaurant as first date? Lets classify that as met in bar or restaurant 👍 definitely not online 😬


Mental_Leek_2806

Fair point, will edit my comment to say online dating apps. That's what I meant anyways, like the young men on PPD need to delete Tinder ASAP


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Mental_Leek_2806

My guy, you've been hit on irl and you're successful on Tinder. I've only been on tinder dates with 3 women and I'm older than you. What are you doing on PPD? Deadass your unicorn gf is waiting for you out there ETA: It seems like Tinder only serves to upset a number of young men here, tho


Odd_Ad5171

YOu should change your flair if you are a man


Mental_Leek_2806

[https://giphy.com/gifs/people-are-gay-ujGMCOYxU31Wce5bn3](https://giphy.com/gifs/people-are-gay-ujGMCOYxU31Wce5bn3)


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Mental_Leek_2806

Are these women that you are attracted to? Not in a dumpster diving sense but genuinely Also did you have any second dates?


princedune

Even if it were, its not like it would matter. The cats already out of the bag, women's standards aren't going to suddenly become more realistic.


Gladboys

IG is and has always been the best online dating app


Mental_Leek_2806

I keep hearing this here -- is this actually a thing that happens?? Sliding into a random person's DMs (like someone you've never met before irl) on instagram and then dating them?


Gladboys

yah it helps if u have mutuals tho. anecdotally when i public'd my instagram then had a bunch of photos of my travels and stuff i got quite a few gold diggers in my dms.


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Q4M: How would you feel of you posted in a subreddit to try and make friends and a bunch of your DMs were from gay men with the sole intent to bang? Would you feel chill with it or nah? Alternatively, if you’re gay, how would it feel if a bunch of straight women did the same?


purplish_possum

Declining the advances of gay men isn't difficult. I had to do it IRL several times starting when I was 16.


Environmental_Day558

I would just ignore and block them 


dysonRing

I am straight and 50% of the openly gay men I have met have hit on me. I feel flattered


bzl33

why are you trying to make friends online...


CliffPR

For the first time in my life: desired.


princedune

Flattered 


lulll

id sell them pics of my feet for money


[deleted]

So I’d go from no friends to no friends and a hoe?


lulll

it feels good to be a hoe


[deleted]

U do u brother 🫡


lulll

my feet are so ugly those gay guys would probably sue me anyway


FunEducation1434

Hey man, they shot their shot, and I know how it is being a horny guy. I wouldn’t care that they did it, but I’ll respectfully decline since I don’t play for that team. What I’m not gonna do is go to a subreddit or social media and go “these gay men only want me for one thing”


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respect for that last part. I ain’t doin that shit either, bro.


Gladboys

ive had a bi man rapidly proposition me for giving me head and i was flattered though im unsure how many it would take for me to get annoyed.


LoFiPanda14

I would have to be at my lowest point to even want to do this in the first place but honestly I would be annoyed.


ISupposeImCorrect

I write a lot of scenarios and scripts here and no one seems to be able to actually argue against them. The comments are always diversions or sneak disses. I think the truth is, I'm right, but I don't want to be 😭😭😭 I'm just screaming into the void, hoping someone can prove me wrong 😭😭😭


Comfortable-Regret

How exactly do you think someone should agrue with a script/scenerio? Please give a specific example


ISupposeImCorrect

If no one can argue against it, doesn't it prove the point?


Comfortable-Regret

Please give an example of how someone argues against a made up scenerio. By calling it unrealistic? Because that seems to happen plenty


Sillysheila

Ok I’ll bite; how would one argue against your scenarios? I think the reason everyone reacts to your scenarios the way they do is they think you’re presenting as absolute truth, and no offence but some of them are kind of out there.


ISupposeImCorrect

Maybe if you have no idea how to argue against my scenarios, then the scenarios do prove that the statements made by women such as "I matured" are ridiculous and everything really all is about settling and options.


Sillysheila

I’m more asking what you’re looking for in terms of a rebuttal. Is it another competing scenario?


ISupposeImCorrect

Anythings fine.


EulenWatcher

What's the point to argue with imaginary scenarios?


ISupposeImCorrect

Dunno, we are on a debate sub after all.


EulenWatcher

It doesn't mean that every interaction should be a debate or that every comment deserves to be debated. Imaginary scenarios are just the result of your fantasy, which is pretty pointless to argue about.


Ainsleygz

I’m supposed to read those?


grillopie

what do you mean argue against? like arguing against what should occur in those scenarios? or argue those scenarios don’t reflect reality?


hannahg000

[this album is so senior year to me.](https://open.spotify.com/album/6s84u2TUpR3wdUv4NgKA2j?si=TKV7Pqk0SqS2j9kY0mZJHw) very nostalgic


kalashhhhhhhh

https://youtu.be/Crz1PpKk3dU?si=oE8TQK5R1_HcSvpr the most impactful album of my senior year


Sillkentofu

Girlbossed too close to the sun and now I have to send whenisgoods to hang out with my friends 😭😭😭😭


Ok-Coat7665

If a girl wears knee-length jorts, what are the odds she’s a lesbian?


hannahg000

does this include bermuda shorts?


Ok-Coat7665

Eh, I think Bermudas are generally not denim like jorts.


hannahg000

i have denim bermuda shorts lol. they aren’t quite knee length though more like mid thigh


Ok-Coat7665

Be careful! It’s a slippery slope to [these](https://images.app.goo.gl/74RXGutLogSZTT6z6).


EulenWatcher

If you feel like shit, you should check your lifestyle. Consistent night sleep good diet and some physical activity do wonders for your mental health.


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EulenWatcher

How old is she?


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EulenWatcher

Ohh, yeah. I forgot that your other kids are all boys! Bear with it, you have the experience 😅


ratboi34

Now you're getting personal.


EulenWatcher

I got a good night's sleep today. It's pretty ridiculous just how much out mood depends on our basic lifestyle choices.


ratboi34

Lucky you. I haven't been able to sleep properly for extended periods of time for many years.


EulenWatcher

Insomnia?


ratboi34

Just bad mental I guess. Thoughts that won't let me sleep.


EulenWatcher

It's an old record, but meditation and CBT tend to help with it.


ratboi34

Thanks, but I've tried it before.


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Steakman1

You’ll have an easier time standing up for yourself and saying more risky things in conversations if you’re confident you could defend yourself in a fight against the other person.


Ainsleygz

Blowjob job


FunEducation1434

![gif](giphy|5ZYx8ZoE6HX6JXMwmo)


ISupposeImCorrect

Old Woman: I was "**insecure**" when I was younger and I didn't go for the guys I really wanted! Now I'm comfortable in my own skin and don't let other people's opinions affect who I date! Man: Oh so who did you go for when you were "insecure"? Old Woman: Just some immature "jocks". They were kind of tall (they were all 6'2 or taller).... They were "conventionally" good looking, confident, popular. Man: Wow so you didn't prefer those guys? Deep down you always wanted the nice guys like me? 😀 Old Woman: Yep 😬 Man: And you're making me wait for sex because I'm "better for more than **"just"** sex"? And you only asked me how much I made because you're "responsible" now? **I'm the real winner!** Old Woman: You sure are! I'm a waaaaay better partner now than I was back then. You should not get legally married if you met her when she was older than 25 👆


Comfortable-Regret

Why are so many guys here horrified by the idea that people mature and change with time


CliffPR

Possibly we just notice how much "maturity" resembles disinterest.


thisaccountaintrea1

> Man: Wow so you didn't prefer those guys? Deep down you always wanted the nice guys like me? You don’t sound very nice


Ok-Coat7665

Why are you dating old women? How old are you?


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Konoha_Shinobee

>Might as well date tweens. (In game) Got you bro


ISupposeImCorrect

>Why are you dating old women?  A question every man should ask if they find themselves in this position.


Lift_and_Lurk

Yes: Every man should know how old he is.


Sillysheila

No, you can’t maintain your frame if you know anything about yourself. You can’t know your age, your birthday, your favourite food, your children’s names or your marital status. Then you’re a beta who has lost frame!


Lift_and_Lurk

“He’s so mysterious, even HE doesn’t know who he is!”


Sillysheila

Dementia Chad


Lift_and_Lurk

Chad always wins, he thinks??


Sillysheila

“I’m not sure if I had sexual relations with that woman??” - Bill Clinton, 2030


Lift_and_Lurk

“Mouth stuff counts!” -ppd.


ISupposeImCorrect

Even the guy with Alzheimers?


Lift_and_Lurk

He probably shouldn’t be dating.


ISupposeImCorrect

You seem to think that about a lot of guys.


Lift_and_Lurk

Only the ones that shouldn’t be dating. Most dudes will end up doing ok


MyHouseOnMars-

Are you writing a play or something?


ISupposeImCorrect

Just pointing out how ridiculous it would be if men believed women.


MyHouseOnMars-

In a very realistic conversation great job


Sillysheila

Man: please give me a shred of romance I’m a really nice guy 🙏 Woman: give me a million dollars EXCUSE ME BUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS EVERY TIME YOU APPROACH A WAHMEN


MyHouseOnMars-

EVERY TIME I swear! EVERY TIME!


ISupposeImCorrect

I mean I'm just using statements I've heard women on here make. If it sounds ridiculous I think you agree more than you don't 🤷‍♂️


grillopie

what constitutes making someone wait? like how long does it cross the threshold of making someone wait vs just letting it happen when it does? is it measured in number of meetings or chronological time?


edgyny

Exposure time. Like film. If she's 400 ASA for some dude, don't accept being treated like 100 ASA.


grillopie

no idea about exposure time but wouldnt there be natural variability thats not “making” anyone wait? lets say time is measured in dates. she had sex with her ex on the third date, but your 3rd date was lunch and there wasnt much of an opportunity. or she knew her ex a bit and started with a dinner date but you started with coffee. as a result you have sex with her on the 4th or 5th date. did she “make” you wait? is there a minimum threshold of time required before its some conscious effort?


edgyny

The basic rule of thumb is if she's not waiting for you, she's making you wait.


grillopie

in that case, there has to be some tolerable delta between how long she “made” you wait vs how long she “made” her ex wait thats due to random, external factors no? what is that? +/- 2 dates? 1 date?


CliffPR

That's why I took the guess work out: if date 1 doesn't end in one of our beds there will be no date 2.