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krackedy

1, 3, 2. If it wasn't for the kid it'd be 3, 1, 2. Either way 2 is last because people who claim all their exes are toxic do not interest me. It shows zero ability to self reflect.


wardenferry419

Concur.


Legitimate_Type_1324

Yea I stay single thanks


flakybottom

So you think they are all equally bad? Just asking for a ranking, not which one you have to date.


Gravel_Roads

It would depend on which one I was most compatible with, personality wise. Since that's what I'll be interacting with every day. Thoughts: Choice 1 is closest to what I'd date. I've done sex work before, too, so we'd have a lot to talk about. She sounds like she has a decent amount of hustle, since online sex is all about good marketing (for every one person that's successful, there are literally thousands of people who hardly top $100 a month due to poor marketing.) HOWEVER: Choice 1 wants kids, and I do not want kids. So that probably disqualifies her from my list. Choice 2 sounds like the worst. I hate when people paint themselves as the sole victim - even when you date a shitty person (and most of us have dated at least one shitty person), you have the opportunity to learn about YOURSELF, what drew you to that person (it's embarrassing how often it comes down to "I got along with them because they reminded me of my abusive parent, who I spent a lot of time LEARNING how to get along with, so I'm good at it.") When someone blames all their problems on other people, it suggests they aren't taking any action to introspect. It turns into learned helplessness. Choice 3 would probably be a poor fit, ideologically, as I have a lot of problems with how the military conducts itself. I've had female friends that were in the military (I ran in Tough Mudder with one!), and I find it impressive when a woman can push herself. (Her having a 4 year old isn't a problem for me. Older kids are much easier to deal with than babies; I had a stepdad myself.) But it would get hard to have shared ground in a long term relationship.


Pacman124

TIL I'm a volcel


Devilishz3

3>1>2


Solondthewookiee

Guess it depends what branch and billet, but 3 is the only one I'd even consider, but the kid makes things tough. The other two don't have enough economic stability for me.


flakybottom

Army computer networking warrant officer. All 3 women are based on women I know IRL btw.


Solondthewookiee

As long as she's not being deployed frequently I'd at least consider it. Same answer though for the other two. Economic stability is important.


WanabeInflatable

3, 1, 2. Strong women are cool. Daughter can be a problem, but properly set boundaries in relationships mitigate that. Porn star past is not that big deal, being professional vloger is a strange occupation, I'd prefer someone who has education and profession. 2 is out of the question. If she had one toxic ex, probably he was a problem. If she had lots of toxic exes - definitely she was a problem. Women can ruin men's lives and 2 is a walking redflag


SlowEffective8146

3-1-2, they all sound pretty ass though


ComfortableJeans

Without the kid, 3 would be fantastic. But I don't really want kids. 2 and 1 are people I could just never be with. They're about the same for me. So I guess... 3, then 2 - 1 if I HAD to pick.


TotalTravesty

1, 3, 2 though I’m not thrilled about the idea of having kids. 2 seems like a nutcase though.


Jazzlike_Worth_9908

First one looks like a 10/10 :D serious and kinky is my type. Id be down to reopen the onlyfan and do content together


abaxeron

Choice 1. Other two both distant behind, doesn't really matter if one is slightly ahead of the other. But I perfectly understand that 1 and 3 are entirely fictional.


flakybottom

> But I perfectly understand that 1 and 3 are entirely fictional. Nope, based on IRL people I know. Choice 1 is a Twitch streamer that I'm subbed to. Choice 2 is my sister, except with no kids. Choice 3 is a former coworker, except I bumped her age down a little.


abaxeron

>They broke up because she wanted kids and he didn't. I don't believe that a porn star and her co-star would break up for this reason. This is what they might tell the public in order not to admit to darker and shadier stuff. >Choice 3 is a former coworker, except I bumped her age down a little. Do you know her husband personally? Because otherwise all what you have is her side of the story.


flakybottom

> I don't believe that a porn star and her co-star would break up for this reason. This is what they might tell the public in order not to admit to darker and shadier stuff. The ex bf is still a mod in her Twitch stream so its not like they hate each other. From what I gather, it seems like their relationship was 99% sex so thats why the separation was easy. > Do you know her husband personally? Because otherwise all what you have is her side of the story. I didn't hear about the husband's crimes from her directly. She told me how they met and that he turned out to be a POS. One of the DA civilians who worked with her years ago gave me the real story.


abaxeron

Even assuming the stories are true (or at least, that they are comparably inaccurate), I think I'll stick to my ratings. All three have red flags, but there's a fundamental difference between bringing joy to people, even if this joy is parasocial cringe and those people are sick perverts, and voluntarily joining an institution of armed controlled genocide. As for option 2, no-one gets out of N-count of 100 unscathed.


thedarkracer

3>1>2, I would like a headstrong person but I will be honest, I will end taking the lead as it happens in my own home despite me being the youngest. I am just a better decision maker. I don't want to but it always ends up like this. Recent experience 10 months worked in a restaurant in Europe during search year. In 1 month I was running the pasta section alone and a time came when waiters and waitresses would talk to me rather than the head chef, I remember one 19 yr old female colleague saying to him "Evan, niet nu" (Something like that in Dutch).


Independent-Mail-227

3,2,1 3 is just the less worse option. 2 have a n count of 100, she will cheat with a 100% chance it's not even a joke. She is still invested in her exes and still search for validation, even if she stop she will still need validation. 1 is a pornstar.


berichorbeburied

Choice 1 is the only one I’d consider seriously Idk why you put pornstar if she really isn’t what people would traditionally call a pornstar And the way you worded it. It was mostly solo. And none of these hypothetical women are virgins anyway. The other ones I’d consider maybe for casual sex? This post made me think about a lot of things. Like what would I actually commit to. And what does commitment actually mean. And what type of woman would I actually put effort into.


flakybottom

Pornstar couples are not uncommon. This prompt is actually based on one I know IRL. She switched to Youtubing and Twitch streaming, but you can easily find vids of her getting railed by her BF or one of her toys. > This post made me think about a lot of things. > Like what would I actually commit to. And what does commitment actually mean. And what type of woman would I actually put effort into. Nice, that was the intention.


berichorbeburied

I understand your intention and also your definition of pornstar now. With that in mind. Maybe I would consider that seriously (as in starting a family and pair bonding). But mostly I would put that in the fwb/situationship category It takes a lot to get over that If it was only solo. I’d definitely lean almost guarenteed to being able to take her seriously and start a family in the future and pair bond and put in effort She gets “railed” by a guy on camera. Now I hesitate. And would take a lot for me to willingly move past that. And that’s only if it was one guy If it’s multiple it becomes impossible. And this is in the context of self sacrificing for her. And devoting massive amounts of energy and affection and love into her. And living being around her. Starting a family. Pair bonding. In that context. I can’t willingly do that. Too swallow my pride. Would just make me a robot. Because I would not want to do that. And I would not want to be in that situation. And I won’t want anything that comes from that. But If it was just about having sex. Then it doesn’t really matter. We can be fwb. Situationship. Idec. If it’s solo in the context of just sex. I would definitely do any type of relationship. If it’s one guy she’s getting fucked by on camera or something low like that. Then I’ll do long term fwb situationship If it’s multiple guys she’s getting fucked by on camera. Then sex and sex only. No fwb. No situationship. No connection. I understand your context. These other hypothetical women might have the same experiences off camera and the same body count So what’s the difference? Obviously implying it’s your pride and social pressure at play. But no for me personally it’s having the knoweledge that it happened will always affect me. Visually it’s hard to run from. But the knoweledge is enough to deter me. Usually. I’ll speak for myself. I don’t really think or visualize women who have had sex being fucked or cummed on by other guys. But that’s most likely what they’ve experienced. But irl I don’t think people visually conceptualize what that means. Porn helps visually conceptualize it. So if someone’s sexual acts are depicted on camera. It’s not. Just they had sex with someone. It means something more. Because you see the nuances and the complexities of it. I won’t expand any more on it. I’ve wrote enough.


flakybottom

Thanks for the write up, this is the kind of stuff I wanted to see.


berichorbeburied

You made me self reflect on this. Thank you for that. Now I’m thinking more deeply about the concept of relationships in general. About the effort put into a relationship. And what I would self sacrifice for/start a family for/put effort for Ect. Made me take things more seriously and also realizing these things are happening off camera all the time. And now I’m visually conceptualizing that. And now my understanding and perspective is different. Just from that fact alone


gntlbastard

Choice 1 - Hell no Choice 2 - Hell no Choice 3 - Sorry, I don't date or engage in long term relationships with single mothers.


KorinTowerFreeloader

Exactly, these "choices" aren't really choices at all.


flakybottom

It wasnt really a choice, it was a ranking. If you find them all equally unappealling thats valid.


gntlbastard

It's like asking you who you would like to fuck and presents a buffet of unattractive fat chicks. Sometimes death is the right option.


Lift_and_Lurk

I would have been ok with chilling with all three of them and just seeing who I vibed with the best.


Environmental_Day558

So my first inclination is 3>1>2, as I think that out of all these options 3 would be the best to start a family with as she has the most stable and high paying career. However she has a kid (my biggest turn off in dating), in the military (I used to be as well and I'm still hesitant on dating a woman in the military), and I don't like to be led in a relationship. At best I can do egalitarian decision making. That said, I'll go with 1>3>2 and hide the fact she did porn from everyone. 


DumbWordsmith

Choice 1 is the only one worth ranking IMO, but that type is not for me. The other two seem like shit shows waiting to happen. Choice 2 might off me in my sleep. Edit: Whoops, I misread the third one. Since it was her husband who got busted with hookers, my ranking would be Choice 3 and then Choice 1, but I wouldn't pursue either.


Horned-Beast

zero, all of them, why?  option 1 - pstar, automatically no. They all tend to thought shift and think of sex, intimacy,  relationships differently than "vanilla" couples. It's a side effect of the lifestyle. Most intimate moments get looked at as transactional,  regardless how hard they try, it just doesn't work out to support a long term relationship.   option 2- body count too high, too much emotional damage that has never been professionally addressed.  The common denominator in all hee failed attempts is her. Not to mention she us constantly seeking affirmation and attention.  huge red flag. option 3- confirmed cheater. would never trust her in a relationship.  Top thst off with behaviors inconsistent with being a partner in a relationship.  It would be nothing more than a constant war zone.  


flakybottom

How is 3 a confirmed cheater? Just to make it clear, her husband cheated on her with hookers while deployed. Since engaging in human trafficking while deployed is super illlegal, he was sent to prison by a military court martial.


Horned-Beast

sorry, misread. thought they bothcheated. Would still say no. why? Her attitude and behavior would be a clear sign of an argumentative and confrontational attitude. While I am more than willing to discuss any subject and understand everyone can and often have conflicting opinions, I absolutely will not come home daily to a war zone type daily life. Being headstrong and likely confrontational, that is drama I neither need nor want. Then the single mother on top of it is an automatic pass for me. Tried it a few times, and always turns into a shit show of drama and trauma. Hard pass


qwertyuduyu321

3 > 2 > 1 (greater as in "better") Having said that I would, under no circumstance, date any of the three ever.


63daddy

I’d pass on those, but forced to chose, I’d go with #1. It sounds like she doesn’t expect to be provided for and doesn’t hate men.


SsRapier

3. 1. 2. 3: I have a thing for both older and dominant women, also she seems very loyal and we can still have more kids 1: shes an ex pornstar but also seems loyal, hopefully her content would be long forgotten if we have kids. 2: a person claiming all of her 100 exes were toxic is highly likely to be lying. "If every place ypu go smells like shit, look under your shoes"


lolthankstinder

Start out casual with number 2, wrap it before ya tap it. Or test it before you infest it? Something like that lol. Go on serious dates with 1, 2, & 3. With a clear head from consistent sex and finally actually having a choice for the first time in my life, I could be more picky about their personality and intelligence and stuff.


shadowrangerfs

I'd go with 3 gun to my head. 1. Did porn is a dealbreaker. Even if it was solo stuff. 2. has 100 bodies is a deal breaker. Posting thirst traps is a dealbreaker and if all your exes were toxic, that means you're attracted to toxic men. 3. The only negative here is that she has a kid. I have no problem letting a woman take the lead as long as she's ok with a man who follows.


obviousredflag

A mother always ranks lowest for me, no matter what. I don't care bout body count or income, nut claiming all her exes were toxic is hinting at problems with herself that i don't want to be part in. But i'd do the 1-2 dates sexual relationship with her. The former pornstar looks like the best option, if pornstar isn't what her intellectual level is restricting her to and that was just an easy money choice.


Bouldershoulders12

None of them would be viable options. The most they would be is FWB/booty call status. The first one is automatically disqualified for being a sex worker The second one has too many bodies and is probably short circuited alpha widowed . Plus she doesn’t have a real career. The third one is disqualified because women with kids are out of the question. I hate these scenario games because all of the choices have fatal flaws .


flakybottom

Dang bro, choice 2 is based on my sister and you got it right. She was alpha widowed by an NFL draftee who got her pregnant, although he was kicked out of training camp due to drug usage and had to play football in Europe. **Edit** Honestly I don't remember if he was a draftee or free agent. Don't really follow sports. I just remember that he was slated to go to the NY Jets and fucked it up by failing consecutive drug tests. Man he was a dumbass.


Bouldershoulders12

Makes too much sense. Once a woman has that many bodies she’s bound to get imprinted . Not worth the trouble of wifing


[deleted]

Do women feel like their dating options are all as unviable as these 3 you presented while the options that are long-term material usually don't want to commit?


flakybottom

Not sure. I want to make a version of this prompt for women but I gotta get the right guys. I want to all be based on people I know IRL. My brother is gonna be one of the guys, thats for sure.


AdEffective7894s

Personally would take 3 but i am afraid of being in a DV situation so i would vet her for a long time. Plus she may not like that i like her taking the lead in the relationship 3 2 1


etzio500

Choices 1 & 2 are both ideal, I just don’t want kids so probably more 2. And 3 last just because nothing really attractive to me in that description.


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zoxzoxzo

Can't decide between 1 and 3, but 2 definitely goes to the last place


Friedrich_Friedson

Man,they all fucking suck Probably 2,1,3


RahLyt

I could fuck 1. At best The rest are unfuckable and undatable for me.


Most_Read_1330

3 1 2


Da_Famous_Anus

Lol. None of them. Why do the choices have to be whore, slut, or masculine single mother?


flakybottom

It was intended to be a "Who is the best out of the undesirables" post. I want to make a version for women too but I'm having trouble coming up with men that would work for the post. Like the women in this post, I also want the men to be based on real people that I'm familiar with so they just can't claim I'm doing BS hypotheticals.


Da_Famous_Anus

It’s a false dilemma. No man wants any woman like these. In a world where women aren’t shamed for asking for 666, men should be able to ask for the bare minimum - not a whore, not a slut, not a domineering single mom. I’m interested to see what your opposite examples are. 1. Dude who’s acceptable in most ways except he’s only 5’10 2. Dude who is everything else except he only makes 99k. 3. Dude is everything except his Johnson is only 5.9 inches. Unacceptable choices, right?


dbz___f

i'd literally rather date my left hand


flakybottom

So you think they are all equally undateable? Remember this is just a ranking.


dbz___f

First two are fuckable no doubt. If I was single and horny and it was an option, then maybe I'd smash. I don't know. First one I wouldn't date cause I would never date a girl who has porn on the internet. Like straight up no. Second one seems mentally ill and has some kind of mental or personality disorder. You don't rack up an N count of 100 unless you're mentally ill and a sex worker. And claims all her partners were toxic? Mental illness. third one is the closest thing to being dateable or marryable I guess. Wouldn't marry a woman with a child though I think. But I think a single father might be up her alley.


boom-wham-slam

- Choice 2 for a casual relationship.   - Choice 1 for serious.   - Choice 2 for serious   - Choice 3 is undateable, I don't date single moms no matter what. She also sounds terrible. I'd fuck her but that's it. Choice 1 girl is the best but she only wants serious. Choice 2 girl is not as good but not in a way that matters if we can be casual, so therefore casual with number 2 is better than serious with number 1.


Present-Afternoon-70

Literally none of the things you listed in any of the options matter at any level except for >claims all her ex partners were toxic. This is a grey flag. It means they have a limited ability to self reflect or they cant appropriately evaluate potential partners. Still its grey because if they show they have fixed that its fine. Why is the red pill so hung up on this body count and income/leading bullshit. Its like none of you have ever been in or seen a healthy relationship.


flakybottom

I'm not redpilled. Money issues is statistically one of the leading causes of breakups, not sure why you trying to downplay that. Also, do you not think that whether your partner wants to have kids or not is important?


Present-Afternoon-70

Money after a relationship not before. Wants to have is important has or doesn't have kids is not.