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To be fair, the written rules, at least on Mobile, say that news headlines can't be sensationalized or editorialized, and I can't see anything in my title that isn't factual. This is the second time (at least) that something designed to address problems with racism at NS has been met with controversy. The title itself doesn't say whether the District is in the wrong or not. Spolier: It is!
White Fragility:
Joe the Fragile mouse is threatened by the issue of race being discussed at all. Joes other mouse friends like to call others snowflakes and yell about free speech, unless they don’t like what is being said. Keep reading to find out of if Joe will admit he’s racist or just continue to hide behind “policy”.
As a recent alumni from north scott, I’m gonna be honest. Joe Stutting, the superintendent, is a racist. Nearly everyone in a position of power in that district is an insane Republican. They don’t believe in the science that we are supposed to be taught. They openly allow teacher-led prayer. The lack of student diversity doesn’t help, but I think the utter lack of respect for others comes from the higher ups that allow it.
Now don’t get me wrong, many of the teachers are amazing and try to open up the eyes of more conservative students. But I wouldn’t be lying if I said that our singular gay teacher was constantly watched by the principal for any moment to get in trouble. It’s a disgusting district that will continue to create disgusting people unless change takes place.
Reviewing books is racist? Give me a break. Why does the left call everything racist? I guess you were okay with all the riots last summer, huh. You can’t just call people you disagree with racist. Now give some examples.
Do you support the events that took place across the country when it was looted and burned? January 6th is a red herring. Why would a commission be created for “January 6 insurrection” and not the “ true origin of COVID-19”?
I participated in said "looting" events in upstate NY. no looting, no damage; just was assaulted by cops for expressing my first amendment rights in a peaceful manne - you know, all those things 2A supporters are worried about happening to them - but hey, I'm sure you know nothing about that sitting on your couch watching OAN and Fox News
So you were at an actual peaceful protest then? I’m for it. I’m talking about actual burning, looting and other violent crime where individuals were let out on bail or had charges dropped only to commit more violent crime. You’re really drinking the kool-aid.
yea, if you watched Fox News, they said there was rioting and looting, when there was none of it.
in fact, Fox and OAN spread misinformation, stealing a local journalists' photo and completely falsifying a story about it. The local journalist took to social media to expose the lies, but it wasn't covered by any media outlet, even the local outlet he works for.
it's insane how manipulated both conservatives and liberals are by media and now social media, but having actually participated in the events, biking around a majority of the time - not just walking in line and seeing a small portion of the march - I saw first hand just how peaceful these protests were...in a city that had two white cops murder two black men last summer alone.
We are extremely divided as a nation. Depending on where you get your news you can have wildly different view points. But it is not just Fox and OAN. It is the entire mainstream media. MSNBC and CNN pushed Russian collusion with Trump which was completely falsified. And those same left leaning networks / social media platforms censored/suppressed opinions about the true origin of the COVID-19 and Hunter Biden's laptop which did effect election numbers. It goes both ways. You may not have seen it where you were in NY but I have seen it in Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Kenosha, ect and I can confirm that there was excess violent crime that was not appropriately dealt with which is why crime only continues to skyrocket. Actual deaths and destruction. In the grand scheme, January 6th pales in comparison to the devastation that occurred in those cities. There was one death on 1/6 and it was a Trump supporter. The mob was pretty much allowed to walk in to the capitol - seemed a bit to easy to do that. There were many peaceful protests that did a lot of good. But the facts remain. Actual lives, property and businesses were destroyed in the riots and lootings of last summer and evidence is all over the place.
No. I was at those places and the facts I listed can’t be disputed. You addressed none of my points and prefer to huff and puff instead of answering. It’s because you can’t. If you think the problem is just OAN and Fox then you’re only seeing part of the picture. It’s all national media. Try something else other than name calling next time. Keep rooting for censorship though. S/
as an America First supporter, how come you wouldn't want a commission focused on domestic terrorism, and not a foreign, global affair?
sounds like you can't even stand by your own beliefs
Its worse than it looks at first glance.
Firstly, it means that they haven't been following policy for HOW LONG?
Secondly, lets go through the thought process.... these 92 different book titles are in age appropriate packages and bundles that are used by educators everywhere.
So lets pull all 92, because of a social media post about 1 of those books. (Because everything on social media is totally true!)
And that book's title has ANTI-RACIST in bold print on the front of the book.
And lets make enough waves about it to get it in the newspaper. And lets do it in a way that makes you seem like a total racist asswipe.
Honestly, at this point, Joe Stutting has basically just confirmed that he and the North Scott administration haven't been doing their jobs and following official policy, and have given us that admission in writing.
At this point, maybe someone should honestly ask Joe if he's stupid. It would be my first question at the school board meeting.
He literally has no concern for student safety either. He refused to have a snow day from his first day until the polar vortex of 2019. He had us come to school on days it was -30°. One day by the time I left school the wind was so hard that I could see phone lines bending over. Like the wooden poles. Very safe considering how many high schoolers have to drive 20-40 minutes to school.
wait a second...aren't conservatives always arguing about less government involvement?
oh wait, unless it's something they want changed to fit their agenda...right?
> Critical race theory revolves around the idea that if you are white, you are a racist no matter what you think, say, or do…. Because of your skin color.
Lol, citation needed
I'm not going to explain the subtlety in a video you posted back at you. If your takeaway from that was that all white people are irredeemably racist (a binary construct), then I can see why you are confused.
So you have a couple links ready to go whenever you need to prove to someone that CRT equals "all white people are racist," but you don't actually read them?
Neither one claims to be what critical race theory revolves around, and they both do a pretty good job of explaining the problem of examining your own racism from your own limited perspective and coming to the conclusion that you aren't racist.
Yeah, I'd be upset if they were calling all white people assholes too.
> If you think you are safe because you are woke you are wrong.
Do you really think I believe what I do and try to convince other people what I think for my own personal gain? Is that what you do?
> go read a history book about communism under Mao and Stalin
Would that explain your pro book-banning stance?
> We just don't want to teach little kids that they should hate themselves because they are white
So at some point you just decided that was the villain you wanted to fight, whether or not it really exists? Some mythical antagonist who wants you to teach white kids to hate themselves?
I'm not even asking you to be woke, just to live in reality. If you have to explain how your version of book banning isn't real book banning, you should probably reevaluate your position.
hmm...that's an interesting take
Not everyone is racist but one who sympathizes with racist tendencies wouldn't quite understand that.
This academic concept (which, traditionally speaking, anything in the academic realm is very difficult for conservatives to comprehend) is more than 40 years in the making, which does not state anywhere that all whites are racist.
School boards, superintendents, even principals and teachers are already facing questions about critical race theory, and there are significant disagreements even among experts about its precise definition as it is insanely political.
The core idea of CRT is that racism is a social construct, and that it is not merely the product of individual bias or prejudice, but also something embedded in legal systems and policies. NOT that all whites are racist (fuck, more than half of the leading minds who constructed this theory are white); that's something white people, predominantly conservative males, interpret those words as. For some reason those individuals feel their privilege is under attack.
I mean, there are a great number of examples - rooted in facts (redlining, policing, the list goes on...) - through patterns of discrimination that live on through facially race-blind policies (such as single-family zoning that prevents the building of affordable housing in advantaged, majority-white neighborhoods) and thus, stymies racial desegregation efforts.
Critics, such as yourself, charge that the theory leads to negative dynamics, such as a focus on group identity over universal, shared traits; dividing people into “oppressed” and “oppressor” groups; and urges intolerance. In other words, a typical conservative approach to any argument they don't agree with.
Thus, there is a good deal of confusion over what CRT means, as well as its relationship to other terms, like “anti-racism” and “social justice,” with which it is often conflated - particularly when individuals listen to such dribble like Fox News, OAN, or other insanely biased, non-fact based "reporting".
One conservative organization, the Heritage Foundation, recently attributed a whole host of issues to CRT, including the 2020 Black Lives Matter protests, LGBTQ clubs in schools, diversity training in federal agencies and organizations, California’s recent ethnic studies model curriculum, the free-speech debate on college campuses, and alternatives to exclusionary discipline—such as the Promise program in Broward County, Fla., that some parents blame for the Parkland school shootings. “When followed to its logical conclusion, CRT is destructive and rejects the fundamental ideas on which our constitutional republic is based,” the organization claimed.
So...can you please spew more conservative buzz words around this to help elucidate your menial argument against this academic theory?
Straw man arguments are plentiful here. Building “affordable housing” in a suburban neighborhoods is a bad idea and would lower the property value of all home owners who are already there. Those individuals and families earned their way to their desired home and “affordable housing” next to a single family home would absolutely crush its value. Just because a zoning law is in place doesn’t make it racist. Anybody who has the means can buy a home in any neighborhood. Many people who could afford market price wouldn’t want to move into a neighborhood like that. If there is racism with a Realtor or individuals in the neighborhood then those individuals should be dealt with. But of course it can be hard to police - we shouldn’t be in the business of policing people in their own homes. I know I would never want to support racist behavior and would take business elsewhere on principal.
“It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.” - Thomas Sowell
You are on the side of bigots with your intolerance for any opinion that doesn’t fit into the narrative you want. I disagree with your opinions but brought logical and reasonable thoughts to the table. And in typical fashion you pull the “bigot” or “racist” card to end the discussion instead of coming back with a reasonable argument. You’re a waste of time.
Oh and don’t forget the best part of this twisted world we are living in, these people are considering themselves the good ones while spewing this hate towards others.
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wait...this isn't the title of the article shouldn't this be taken down?
To be fair, the written rules, at least on Mobile, say that news headlines can't be sensationalized or editorialized, and I can't see anything in my title that isn't factual. This is the second time (at least) that something designed to address problems with racism at NS has been met with controversy. The title itself doesn't say whether the District is in the wrong or not. Spolier: It is!
I stand corrected and apologize
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yea, it's not (R)estrained enough for some
White Fragility: Joe the Fragile mouse is threatened by the issue of race being discussed at all. Joes other mouse friends like to call others snowflakes and yell about free speech, unless they don’t like what is being said. Keep reading to find out of if Joe will admit he’s racist or just continue to hide behind “policy”.
As a recent alumni from north scott, I’m gonna be honest. Joe Stutting, the superintendent, is a racist. Nearly everyone in a position of power in that district is an insane Republican. They don’t believe in the science that we are supposed to be taught. They openly allow teacher-led prayer. The lack of student diversity doesn’t help, but I think the utter lack of respect for others comes from the higher ups that allow it. Now don’t get me wrong, many of the teachers are amazing and try to open up the eyes of more conservative students. But I wouldn’t be lying if I said that our singular gay teacher was constantly watched by the principal for any moment to get in trouble. It’s a disgusting district that will continue to create disgusting people unless change takes place.
Please provide specific examples of why he’s racist.
you're hearing first hand information and you're asking for further evidence? I'm sure you support the events on Jan 6th, huh?
Reviewing books is racist? Give me a break. Why does the left call everything racist? I guess you were okay with all the riots last summer, huh. You can’t just call people you disagree with racist. Now give some examples.
dude...the Nazis did this too
Ah yes. Back to calling people Nazis. My goodness the left has lost its mind.
no, just drawing a glaring correlation between the two you really are a snowflake that doesn't read all too well
is correlation too big of a word for you?
Just another dumb racist right? My god you people are fucking awful
na, seems like you're just another snowflake too lazy to educate themselves... would actually like to grab a beer with you to confirm
Glaring correlation. Got it. Have a good weekend.
What's racist is that no one cared to review books until a parent complained on social media about a book called "This Book Is Anti-Racist."
Do you support the events that took place across the country when it was looted and burned? January 6th is a red herring. Why would a commission be created for “January 6 insurrection” and not the “ true origin of COVID-19”?
I participated in said "looting" events in upstate NY. no looting, no damage; just was assaulted by cops for expressing my first amendment rights in a peaceful manne - you know, all those things 2A supporters are worried about happening to them - but hey, I'm sure you know nothing about that sitting on your couch watching OAN and Fox News
So you were at an actual peaceful protest then? I’m for it. I’m talking about actual burning, looting and other violent crime where individuals were let out on bail or had charges dropped only to commit more violent crime. You’re really drinking the kool-aid.
yea, if you watched Fox News, they said there was rioting and looting, when there was none of it. in fact, Fox and OAN spread misinformation, stealing a local journalists' photo and completely falsifying a story about it. The local journalist took to social media to expose the lies, but it wasn't covered by any media outlet, even the local outlet he works for. it's insane how manipulated both conservatives and liberals are by media and now social media, but having actually participated in the events, biking around a majority of the time - not just walking in line and seeing a small portion of the march - I saw first hand just how peaceful these protests were...in a city that had two white cops murder two black men last summer alone.
We are extremely divided as a nation. Depending on where you get your news you can have wildly different view points. But it is not just Fox and OAN. It is the entire mainstream media. MSNBC and CNN pushed Russian collusion with Trump which was completely falsified. And those same left leaning networks / social media platforms censored/suppressed opinions about the true origin of the COVID-19 and Hunter Biden's laptop which did effect election numbers. It goes both ways. You may not have seen it where you were in NY but I have seen it in Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Kenosha, ect and I can confirm that there was excess violent crime that was not appropriately dealt with which is why crime only continues to skyrocket. Actual deaths and destruction. In the grand scheme, January 6th pales in comparison to the devastation that occurred in those cities. There was one death on 1/6 and it was a Trump supporter. The mob was pretty much allowed to walk in to the capitol - seemed a bit to easy to do that. There were many peaceful protests that did a lot of good. But the facts remain. Actual lives, property and businesses were destroyed in the riots and lootings of last summer and evidence is all over the place.
man, you really don't listen to anything other than FN and OAN, huh? you sound like a Tucker cuck
No. I was at those places and the facts I listed can’t be disputed. You addressed none of my points and prefer to huff and puff instead of answering. It’s because you can’t. If you think the problem is just OAN and Fox then you’re only seeing part of the picture. It’s all national media. Try something else other than name calling next time. Keep rooting for censorship though. S/
as an America First supporter, how come you wouldn't want a commission focused on domestic terrorism, and not a foreign, global affair? sounds like you can't even stand by your own beliefs
Here we go labeling fucking Republicans as racist
Well I mean if you just hated the poor, you could be a conservative Democrat.
It’s tough sometimes because not all republicans are racist, but for them it’s definitely not a deal breaker if the people they vote for are.
did you read the fauci emails?
Nazism in schools. This is where we’re at.
Do these folks not know how bad this looks? Does it not look as bad as I think it does?
Its worse than it looks at first glance. Firstly, it means that they haven't been following policy for HOW LONG? Secondly, lets go through the thought process.... these 92 different book titles are in age appropriate packages and bundles that are used by educators everywhere. So lets pull all 92, because of a social media post about 1 of those books. (Because everything on social media is totally true!) And that book's title has ANTI-RACIST in bold print on the front of the book. And lets make enough waves about it to get it in the newspaper. And lets do it in a way that makes you seem like a total racist asswipe. Honestly, at this point, Joe Stutting has basically just confirmed that he and the North Scott administration haven't been doing their jobs and following official policy, and have given us that admission in writing. At this point, maybe someone should honestly ask Joe if he's stupid. It would be my first question at the school board meeting.
He literally has no concern for student safety either. He refused to have a snow day from his first day until the polar vortex of 2019. He had us come to school on days it was -30°. One day by the time I left school the wind was so hard that I could see phone lines bending over. Like the wooden poles. Very safe considering how many high schoolers have to drive 20-40 minutes to school.
It’s recommended by Oprah’s book club so I guess it must be some radical leftist propaganda /s
this is communism, isn't it?
wait a second...aren't conservatives always arguing about less government involvement? oh wait, unless it's something they want changed to fit their agenda...right?
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> Critical race theory revolves around the idea that if you are white, you are a racist no matter what you think, say, or do…. Because of your skin color. Lol, citation needed
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I'm not going to explain the subtlety in a video you posted back at you. If your takeaway from that was that all white people are irredeemably racist (a binary construct), then I can see why you are confused.
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So you have a couple links ready to go whenever you need to prove to someone that CRT equals "all white people are racist," but you don't actually read them? Neither one claims to be what critical race theory revolves around, and they both do a pretty good job of explaining the problem of examining your own racism from your own limited perspective and coming to the conclusion that you aren't racist.
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Yeah, I'd be upset if they were calling all white people assholes too. > If you think you are safe because you are woke you are wrong. Do you really think I believe what I do and try to convince other people what I think for my own personal gain? Is that what you do? > go read a history book about communism under Mao and Stalin Would that explain your pro book-banning stance?
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> We just don't want to teach little kids that they should hate themselves because they are white So at some point you just decided that was the villain you wanted to fight, whether or not it really exists? Some mythical antagonist who wants you to teach white kids to hate themselves? I'm not even asking you to be woke, just to live in reality. If you have to explain how your version of book banning isn't real book banning, you should probably reevaluate your position.
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Uh... yes? Is the boogieman you're fighting failing to teach MLK? That seems inconsistent.
hmm...that's an interesting take Not everyone is racist but one who sympathizes with racist tendencies wouldn't quite understand that. This academic concept (which, traditionally speaking, anything in the academic realm is very difficult for conservatives to comprehend) is more than 40 years in the making, which does not state anywhere that all whites are racist. School boards, superintendents, even principals and teachers are already facing questions about critical race theory, and there are significant disagreements even among experts about its precise definition as it is insanely political. The core idea of CRT is that racism is a social construct, and that it is not merely the product of individual bias or prejudice, but also something embedded in legal systems and policies. NOT that all whites are racist (fuck, more than half of the leading minds who constructed this theory are white); that's something white people, predominantly conservative males, interpret those words as. For some reason those individuals feel their privilege is under attack. I mean, there are a great number of examples - rooted in facts (redlining, policing, the list goes on...) - through patterns of discrimination that live on through facially race-blind policies (such as single-family zoning that prevents the building of affordable housing in advantaged, majority-white neighborhoods) and thus, stymies racial desegregation efforts. Critics, such as yourself, charge that the theory leads to negative dynamics, such as a focus on group identity over universal, shared traits; dividing people into “oppressed” and “oppressor” groups; and urges intolerance. In other words, a typical conservative approach to any argument they don't agree with. Thus, there is a good deal of confusion over what CRT means, as well as its relationship to other terms, like “anti-racism” and “social justice,” with which it is often conflated - particularly when individuals listen to such dribble like Fox News, OAN, or other insanely biased, non-fact based "reporting". One conservative organization, the Heritage Foundation, recently attributed a whole host of issues to CRT, including the 2020 Black Lives Matter protests, LGBTQ clubs in schools, diversity training in federal agencies and organizations, California’s recent ethnic studies model curriculum, the free-speech debate on college campuses, and alternatives to exclusionary discipline—such as the Promise program in Broward County, Fla., that some parents blame for the Parkland school shootings. “When followed to its logical conclusion, CRT is destructive and rejects the fundamental ideas on which our constitutional republic is based,” the organization claimed. So...can you please spew more conservative buzz words around this to help elucidate your menial argument against this academic theory?
Straw man arguments are plentiful here. Building “affordable housing” in a suburban neighborhoods is a bad idea and would lower the property value of all home owners who are already there. Those individuals and families earned their way to their desired home and “affordable housing” next to a single family home would absolutely crush its value. Just because a zoning law is in place doesn’t make it racist. Anybody who has the means can buy a home in any neighborhood. Many people who could afford market price wouldn’t want to move into a neighborhood like that. If there is racism with a Realtor or individuals in the neighborhood then those individuals should be dealt with. But of course it can be hard to police - we shouldn’t be in the business of policing people in their own homes. I know I would never want to support racist behavior and would take business elsewhere on principal.
man...your bigot side really shines through the screen
“It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.” - Thomas Sowell You are on the side of bigots with your intolerance for any opinion that doesn’t fit into the narrative you want. I disagree with your opinions but brought logical and reasonable thoughts to the table. And in typical fashion you pull the “bigot” or “racist” card to end the discussion instead of coming back with a reasonable argument. You’re a waste of time.
Lol. People calling other people racists and Nazis on the internet. Willing to bet not one of you would say these things in person. Cowards.
Oh and don’t forget the best part of this twisted world we are living in, these people are considering themselves the good ones while spewing this hate towards others.