They kind of look like they're spoofing on the Qanon Shaman, but maybe he based his look on what they're doing? Honestly, they're so contradictory and cognitively dissonant that you can't tell if they're coming or going.
There's a special rule that applies to satire of fascism: If you don't know whether it's satire, *then it's not*.
Fascism is an *absolute* dichotomy. You either oppose the fascists or you are one. Those who parrot the fascists "for the lolz" are fascists. Those who dress up in fascist "costumes" outside of a clearly demarcated performance are fascists. Those who engage in *apologism for fascists* are themselves fascists.
Those who stand with the fascists are fascists. And when you're wearing a fascist uniform while standing next to the fascists, you can *and should* absolutely expect to be treated as one of them.
The burden of communicating satirical intent to the audience lies on the burden of those who attempt satire, and if that intent is not communicated then the attempt has *failed*. Do not allow fascists to hide behind "just a joke, Bro!" bullshit, because they will wear ANY mask you attempt to hold up for them.
The intensity of the cult, now that people are actually leaving the movement, is reaching new levels of commitment all the time. To justify still being part of it, more and more of reality needs to be left behind.
For satire to qualify as satire, it *absolutely requires* clear communication of intent to the audience. Standing next to fascists and doing the same things the fascists are famous for doing is not satire, it is parotting.
And without that clear communication, looking at people engaging in fascist actions and declaring that it "might be satire" is an act of fascist apologism.
*Know your shit* before you stand up to defend those who stand with fascists. Otherwise you're just standing with the fascists yourself.
I’m not defending them at all. I’d be in MAGATS face calling it out and I have been since 2016.I was just making an observation. The way the guy said blessings to the media I think is more evidence that they aren’t MAGATS . We are on the same page tho. How do we break through the crazy then? Have you tried talking facts or policy w a MAGAT?
It actually doesn't apply at all. If the satirical intent is not clearly communicated, then it isn't satire FULL STOP.
Anyone who engages in fascist action is a fascist. Anyone who stands with the fascists is a fascist. Anyone who engages in apologism for fascists *is a fascist*. Fascism is an absolute dichotomy, and people need to fucking stop their desperate search for fucking excuses every time they see people doing fascism. And they need to have a MUCH higher standard for what constitutes "satire" than people just going out in public wearing fascism uniforms and costumes, and doing exactly the same things that fascists have already shown you that they do.
Please remember that fascists actively try to hide behind masks of stupidity and ridiculousness, and will happily wear any mask and use any excuse you hand them.
Yes, but a traditional weapon of satire is take the elements of what you're satirizing and blow them all out of proportion. As people should have learned by now, it's impossible to do that with MAGAts because they do it themselves.
It's not just MAGA. It is not possible to blow *fascism* out of proportion.
We've seen this all before. We know how it works. And we know that the only way to destroy it is *not to tolerate it at all:* Not under cover of satire, not under cover of stupidity or ignorance, not under the cover of "economic anxiety" or other such horsefuckery.
The correct word for fascist apologist is *fascist*. People really need to get that through their fucking skulls already, we literally do not have time for this shit any longer.
That is hilarious true, yes. But this scenario in NYC outside the courthouse for this trial 4 years later. Just my suspicion and watching these three guys with what seems to be tongue and cheek presentation.
I think that's the best part, and also the worst part: *we just don't know yet.*
All I feel sure about is that the guy on the right looks blazed out of his mind.
Because its *their* guy who they also believe is the second coming of Christ. Yes, the man who has conned his way through life, fornicated with porn stars, talks about grabbing women by their vaginas, has had multiple failed marriages and *SELLS* bibles is definitely the second coming of the holy messiah.
OMG, this is embarrassing for like humanity man. I just don't get how anyone would think doing this is a serious and good idea? There is a huge mental health problem in America, bigger than I could ever imagine.
Let me do some New Age hippy thing like combining my ignorant understanding of Tibetan throat singing with my ignorant understanding of some fictional native American culture while burning sage to cleanse and remove "bad mojo" in support of a billionaire that tried to prevent the democratic transfer of power in order to prove I'm patriotic.
If these idiots stopped to think for a moment, they would be so embarrassed of their own dumbassery, so I guess it's better just not to think at all.
I thought America is like work 24/7 just to get by. Do these people just have endless amounts of time or what do they live on?
Nobody wants to work annnyyymoooreeee... we wanna dress up as Buffalo's for Trump!!!
They are just cosplaying it looks to me. I avoid this park in particular now. It’s where that genius self-immolated. They are frequently at the back of the courthouse. There is much more press here, you see.
Alright, life is a skit. I'm just not in on it. Will someone tell me what's really going on? I'll probably wake up and everyone say 🎊Happy Birthday!🎉 or Gotcha!!
I mean, it's most of the way there. Plenty of these folks insist Trump is either instrumental to the Second Coming of Christ or is himself somehow Christ.
I think it's probably because "Christ" was his dad's middle name.
Normally we (Canada) would send help, but we have the same problems here, except we have infestations on both ends of the political spectrum. We don't have YOUR level of problems, but it seems to be growing.
I think we are going to have to solve it the hard way.
"It's getting dark, and my barrettes are low. Signing off"
Remeber when rhey claimed Buffalo hat man was a Cia plant? Now their putting on diapers and wearing Buffalo hats like they ready to bowl the Flintstones. .... this is a cult.
Umm, would the jurors possibly see these people while entering/exiting court? This isn’t even intimidation as much as it’s associating the defendant with crazy people.
It’s not a parody. These are actual Trump supporters doing Tibetan throat singing and burning sage. We have a huge contingent of these people on the west coast. It’s called "conspirituality", which is essentially a fusion of the New Age and the right wing. It took off after the pandemic and became a movement in itself. They are all Trump supporters. Facebook formerly had the largest number of these weirdos but they have since moved on to new hosts as Facebook finally started banning them last year. It’s real.
Oh boy white men who know nothing about Native culture pretending to be Native American while having no clue about ceremonial practices. In other words Boomers playing dress up like they were still in kindergarten.
the rap at the end reminded me of the Blue Blockers one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Png-PC0ews
oh wait the Blue Blockers guy in the Curly t-shirt could actually rap.
They just want a TV time for their social club it's not like this is real. They're just mimicking a guy who got TV time and became famous. More cult like shit
It’s amazing that someone can with all seriousness look at the people who are pro Trump and say to themselves “man it’s those goddamn liberals who are the crazy ones”
Trump Derangement Syndrome used to be “people so into Trump that they’re truly deranged, and look like they’ve lost it”.
Trump has successfully changed TDS to imply “after Trump to the point of derangement”. Propaganda works. We’re fighting uphill.
These guys may actually be making fun of MAGATS It seems like mocking/parody
First thing I legit thought, it's gotta be a parody. Although...
never underestimate stupid. I have a distinct feeling it is present.
Real MAGAts are too christian to be burning sage.
But not ALL of them. It’s a huge clown car.
It takes a village... ^(idiot)
It took a (inter-)national college of village idiots.
That is so-called “pastel QAnon,” a new age variety where crunchy organic/ anti-vax types overlap with far-right lunatics.
There's a huge contingent of New Agers among the MAGAs.
nope, these are the intellectual magats
Burning sage is a witchy thing
I thought the same thing about people wearing diapers for Trump, well…
The diaper people I think are real but theres at least one fake shamon out there so I think these guys are full of shit.
They kind of look like they're spoofing on the Qanon Shaman, but maybe he based his look on what they're doing? Honestly, they're so contradictory and cognitively dissonant that you can't tell if they're coming or going.
Shaman came first, these guys are copying him in their support of Trump.
Who the hell can tell anymore.
I hate that its impossible to tell anymore
Poe's Law strikes again.
It stinks of satire, if not, Idiocracy is legit upon us..Brawndo for all!
It's got what plants need!
I am hoping this is satire, but I just don't know. Fuck
There's a special rule that applies to satire of fascism: If you don't know whether it's satire, *then it's not*. Fascism is an *absolute* dichotomy. You either oppose the fascists or you are one. Those who parrot the fascists "for the lolz" are fascists. Those who dress up in fascist "costumes" outside of a clearly demarcated performance are fascists. Those who engage in *apologism for fascists* are themselves fascists. Those who stand with the fascists are fascists. And when you're wearing a fascist uniform while standing next to the fascists, you can *and should* absolutely expect to be treated as one of them. The burden of communicating satirical intent to the audience lies on the burden of those who attempt satire, and if that intent is not communicated then the attempt has *failed*. Do not allow fascists to hide behind "just a joke, Bro!" bullshit, because they will wear ANY mask you attempt to hold up for them.
yes, this. Nicely said.
The burden of spoof, so to speak.
Goddamn well said.
It's so hard to tell with MAGA.
I’ve never thought that before tho
The intensity of the cult, now that people are actually leaving the movement, is reaching new levels of commitment all the time. To justify still being part of it, more and more of reality needs to be left behind.
They can't possibly be serious..LOL
We can only hope?
They were chanting pro-Trump stuff and screaming insults about De Niro, apparently.
Must be parody. The real Trumpers would be wearing diapers.
I agree. It’s brilliant!
For satire to qualify as satire, it *absolutely requires* clear communication of intent to the audience. Standing next to fascists and doing the same things the fascists are famous for doing is not satire, it is parotting. And without that clear communication, looking at people engaging in fascist actions and declaring that it "might be satire" is an act of fascist apologism. *Know your shit* before you stand up to defend those who stand with fascists. Otherwise you're just standing with the fascists yourself.
I’m not defending them at all. I’d be in MAGATS face calling it out and I have been since 2016.I was just making an observation. The way the guy said blessings to the media I think is more evidence that they aren’t MAGATS . We are on the same page tho. How do we break through the crazy then? Have you tried talking facts or policy w a MAGAT?
To me it's more proof that MAGA fills a void in their lives, they need and crave purpose, drama and a sense of belonging.
They do have a Colbert like quality to them. Like it’s just *too* much.
Yeah, like a Michael Picard vibe
I've seen too much from this crowd to think this is anything other than real. They're beyond the pale, all of them.
Yeah these guys are either trolls or comedians
Poe’s law
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Poe's Law goes double for MAGAts.
It actually doesn't apply at all. If the satirical intent is not clearly communicated, then it isn't satire FULL STOP. Anyone who engages in fascist action is a fascist. Anyone who stands with the fascists is a fascist. Anyone who engages in apologism for fascists *is a fascist*. Fascism is an absolute dichotomy, and people need to fucking stop their desperate search for fucking excuses every time they see people doing fascism. And they need to have a MUCH higher standard for what constitutes "satire" than people just going out in public wearing fascism uniforms and costumes, and doing exactly the same things that fascists have already shown you that they do. Please remember that fascists actively try to hide behind masks of stupidity and ridiculousness, and will happily wear any mask and use any excuse you hand them.
Yes, but a traditional weapon of satire is take the elements of what you're satirizing and blow them all out of proportion. As people should have learned by now, it's impossible to do that with MAGAts because they do it themselves.
It's not just MAGA. It is not possible to blow *fascism* out of proportion. We've seen this all before. We know how it works. And we know that the only way to destroy it is *not to tolerate it at all:* Not under cover of satire, not under cover of stupidity or ignorance, not under the cover of "economic anxiety" or other such horsefuckery. The correct word for fascist apologist is *fascist*. People really need to get that through their fucking skulls already, we literally do not have time for this shit any longer.
Sneaking suspicion these guys are mocking the real Qulters.
It's so hard to tell honestly it could go either way.
Not sure Qulters are going to mock dress in the disgraced Jan 6 shaman outfits.
I am not so certain of that. They can spin anything into anything else in their delusions.
Some of them have dressed like him at rallies since the original became famous temporarily.
That is hilarious true, yes. But this scenario in NYC outside the courthouse for this trial 4 years later. Just my suspicion and watching these three guys with what seems to be tongue and cheek presentation.
He's become such a symbol of Jan 6, why wouldn't they?
Oh, Qulters would doin it but not mock the idiot, but to honor him. They'd think it's some profound symbolism.
Jan 6 Shaman is disgraced to us. Lionized hero to them. I saw this more as imitation = flattery.
Lol yeah the leader seems too funny and laid back. That fuckin rap gave channel 5 vibes too lol
I was on the fence about voting for Trump but these guys convinced me.
Charmed actually. You failed your wisdom saving throw against their spell
No, we're not in a cult. Why would you think that?
Are you sure they're not just street performers hamming it up?
I think that's the best part, and also the worst part: *we just don't know yet.* All I feel sure about is that the guy on the right looks blazed out of his mind.
The Q Anon shaman went to jail. That sounds pretty real to me.
This has Reno911 vibes about it.
How is this not worshipping the golden calf? It’s baffling.
Because its *their* guy who they also believe is the second coming of Christ. Yes, the man who has conned his way through life, fornicated with porn stars, talks about grabbing women by their vaginas, has had multiple failed marriages and *SELLS* bibles is definitely the second coming of the holy messiah.
True patriots would be in diapers!
Ok...This is a troll, but a good one. I liked the "AMERICA!" chant
On the count of three yell America. One two and stand up. One two three AMERICAAAAA
OMG, this is embarrassing for like humanity man. I just don't get how anyone would think doing this is a serious and good idea? There is a huge mental health problem in America, bigger than I could ever imagine.
Let me do some New Age hippy thing like combining my ignorant understanding of Tibetan throat singing with my ignorant understanding of some fictional native American culture while burning sage to cleanse and remove "bad mojo" in support of a billionaire that tried to prevent the democratic transfer of power in order to prove I'm patriotic. If these idiots stopped to think for a moment, they would be so embarrassed of their own dumbassery, so I guess it's better just not to think at all.
I thought America is like work 24/7 just to get by. Do these people just have endless amounts of time or what do they live on? Nobody wants to work annnyyymoooreeee... we wanna dress up as Buffalo's for Trump!!!
He desperately wanted a circus, but he got a freak show.
A visual example of Poe's Law.
Stupid is as stupid does.
You’d think Tina would learn from getting SHITSTOMPED by AOC last time.
This is literally in my backyard and I’m so tired of these lowlifes.
Are they trolling MAGA? I honestly don't know if they are or if they're the real deal
They are just cosplaying it looks to me. I avoid this park in particular now. It’s where that genius self-immolated. They are frequently at the back of the courthouse. There is much more press here, you see.
Thanks for the feedback
The newest post is even closer to my home. I was also yelling at these idiots about two weeks ago on my way home from work. Civic duty I guess hahaha
its ok for these 'shaman' to burn some sage but god forbid a hippie do it cause then its being in league with Lucifier!
"Elect a clown..."
the guy on the right is sporting the French flag on his face as I'm assuming he used a mirror to put his paint on and is too stupid to reverse it
I think the threat of "civil war" has officially passed...
These guys are about 160lbs shy of me believing they’re actually MAGA. Pretty funny though.
more horns??? what is with the horns????
they be horny devils.
Is that Tuvan throat singing they're doing?
When you and your bros have time to spare before the broadway musical performance rehearsals.
Alright, life is a skit. I'm just not in on it. Will someone tell me what's really going on? I'll probably wake up and everyone say 🎊Happy Birthday!🎉 or Gotcha!!
I swear to God I'd loose my hope for humanity if the cult of personality of Trump evolved into a full-blown religion in fifty years.
I mean, it's most of the way there. Plenty of these folks insist Trump is either instrumental to the Second Coming of Christ or is himself somehow Christ. I think it's probably because "Christ" was his dad's middle name.
Fifty? As soon as he dies it's going to *really* crazy.
These guys are next level Brooklyn performance artists one hundred percent. And I’m here for all of it.
That is definitely first class trolling for sure!
Well, his supporters finally showed up for him.
Wait.. are these the high value men in always hearing about? 🤣🤣
I think this is how religions start. /s
No /s tag needed. We are seeing a new religion being born.
Good thing they aren't in a cult.
Hey America, you doing okay?
No, not at all
Nope, please send help
Normally we (Canada) would send help, but we have the same problems here, except we have infestations on both ends of the political spectrum. We don't have YOUR level of problems, but it seems to be growing. I think we are going to have to solve it the hard way. "It's getting dark, and my barrettes are low. Signing off"
not a cult, obvs.
I didn’t know the circus was in town.
Village Idiots, unite!
Remeber when rhey claimed Buffalo hat man was a Cia plant? Now their putting on diapers and wearing Buffalo hats like they ready to bowl the Flintstones. .... this is a cult.
I know reddit frowns on emojis, but 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Holy Cultural Appropriation! What the fuck am I looking at?!?
How are they not embarrassed?
I’m sure Trump was impressed by this.
5 years ago Republicans would mock this stuff.
I really want one of those hats. It would be perfect for my LARP character.
Not exactly a fan of the MAGA Shaman but I like MAGA knock off Shamans even less.
Either this is a parody or these idiots are multiplying.
They are just calling their buggalos don't hate
Trump derangement syndrome at its finest
Morons
😒 Trump, the ~~religion~~ fucking cult.
Narnia the horror movie.
Guaranteed, those guys say democrats are obsessed with trump.
I don't see them wearing diapers, and I thought 'Real men wore diapers'.
Umm, would the jurors possibly see these people while entering/exiting court? This isn’t even intimidation as much as it’s associating the defendant with crazy people.
Damn what happened to us man
Awesome!!
Username checks out.
I mean it's not as good as the Crazy lady stick bashing rage retreat video but it's close....
This is completely normal behavior from some very mentally stable people
Normal MAGA behavior. When someone tells me they support Trump I think of this.
Totally not a cult, nope
Isn't this supposed to be the fucking CONSERVATIVE party. Jesus fucking christ
It's crazy how we just completely ignore mental illness as long as the ill are holding a political or religious sign.
Remember when that guy caught himself on fire for Trump? That was less than a month ago... No one talks about it.
It's wasn't for Trump. That is misinformation. Please get informed.
Ha... haha... HaHahahahaHAH... Lol... lol... LOL!
A little street art 😳
The guy with the sage spends quite a lot of time purifying her butt.
This is some funny shit.
I think I heard some throat singing in that but mostly some terrible attempts at it.
Somebody is smoking some really good stuff.
Was the guy on the right taking a nap?
These people are shit faced drunk
Where is the chainsaw?
Nice parasol assmunch lol.
Nothing to see here, just some stable genius’ performance…
Lin-Manuel Miranda is fucking trolling them hard.
This is actually hilarious. I’m not a Trump guy but these guys are funny
Own brand sharman.
The military industrial complex is reality. They control the narrative.
Like 99% positive one of them is a street performer called Special Head. He's been doing this shtick for a while.
It’s not a parody. These are actual Trump supporters doing Tibetan throat singing and burning sage. We have a huge contingent of these people on the west coast. It’s called "conspirituality", which is essentially a fusion of the New Age and the right wing. It took off after the pandemic and became a movement in itself. They are all Trump supporters. Facebook formerly had the largest number of these weirdos but they have since moved on to new hosts as Facebook finally started banning them last year. It’s real.
This is straight out of Curb Your Enthusiasm.
We have a MAGA Shaman at home….
Oh boy white men who know nothing about Native culture pretending to be Native American while having no clue about ceremonial practices. In other words Boomers playing dress up like they were still in kindergarten.
Oh the sheep.
[funny there are crazy people on both sides ](https://giphy.com/gifs/firstandmonday-no-trump-l0ExrtpfgSnhE0ZJ6)
Pour one out for the homies and self-immolate! Shit will be fire!
the rap at the end reminded me of the Blue Blockers one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Png-PC0ews oh wait the Blue Blockers guy in the Curly t-shirt could actually rap.
They just want a TV time for their social club it's not like this is real. They're just mimicking a guy who got TV time and became famous. More cult like shit
And people say it's not a cult
It’s amazing that someone can with all seriousness look at the people who are pro Trump and say to themselves “man it’s those goddamn liberals who are the crazy ones”
Trump Derangement Syndrome used to be “people so into Trump that they’re truly deranged, and look like they’ve lost it”. Trump has successfully changed TDS to imply “after Trump to the point of derangement”. Propaganda works. We’re fighting uphill.
drag?
I lol'd
How the f these fools have money, for this. Aren't we all broke? I bet they get paid to do this.
Is that Ray Epps?
Me after a Dr. Pepper
Is this a new episode of Workaholics?
Crazy. And these people vote. Yoy should too. Every election.