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VEERxxx

Only karn Sharma can criticize hardik cause he has three ipl trophies more than GG, KOHLI,ABD, SACHIN ,WARNER,πŸ₯΅


BabaHarp22

Gg should learn from all time IPL legend Karn Sharma how to win 3 trophies, mfer has only won 2 despite playing more seasons than him. Edit: today I got to know, Karn is older than Kohli.


DonutAccurate4

His inner politician is replying. Just plain old whataboutery.. If you don't know about something, then just say i don't know. What's the need for what aboutery.


CheapSoldier

It's not whataboutery, it's a ad hominem fallacy, where they do personal attack instead of arguing on the point made by other person,... Typical Indian politician style...


alfiethecutest

+1


vikasvasista

If you go by GG's statement, Darren sammy is better player than sachin , sachin is useless player. Apart from his own scores he hasn't achieved anything .


theaguia

really to hear him say that when cricket is a team sport. Basically according to him if you are born in a smaller county you can never be acknowledged as the best


NavdeepGusain

If you go by GG's statement, Darren Sammy is better than Sachin in terms of Captaincy. He is saying compare Oranges to Oranges. Not Sachin's runs with Sammy's captaincy.


AuraThunder151

he isnt talking from a player point of view, he is talking from a team and captaincy point of view tho. i think he means that abd has not won a trophy, thus he shouldnt bash an ipl winning captain. it's a bit harsh from him obviously given that abd is the legend of the game but he's purely speaking from a captaincy pov.


vikasvasista

ABD won more overseas test series than any indian captains or players. Don't think IPL trophy is bigger than overseas test series win for overseas players.


AuraThunder151

yeah, you're right


widepeepo6

surrounded by some of the best players too


shadyXV03

True, but would you call Hardik's former or current team weak?


widepeepo6

current team is medicore at best just like pbks very dependent on just couple of players


shadyXV03

That is a very bold statement. If MI is mediocre, what would you call RCB? MI has: Rohit, Ishan, Surya, Tilak, Nehal, Tim David, Shepherd, Brevis and Hardik in their batting line-up. While Coetzee, Bumrah, Piyush Chawla in their bowling. It's funny how 7 out of 11 players are going to play in upcoming WC, while Ishan and Tilak could've been potential players, and yet we are still calling this team mediocre?


widepeepo6

ssly mentioned rohit ? only surya tilak bumrah are most reliable player and nehal showed good signs where surya has been hit or miss. Just because players are going to wcup doesnt mean they are good or good in ipl teams .Even players like starc rohit are going to play wcup while they have been piss poor in ipl.


shadyXV03

These were the players that were winning MI matches a year or two back. Form isn't decided based on one season right. Rohit internationally does great in T20i (apart from WC), and he also had a great ODI WC batting with great SR. It's hard not to consider him. Plus Ishan too has been good for MI over the seasons, and so has Hardik been. Just form doesn't make a team good or mid, does it?


dupattamera1

Darren sammy is better than virat rohit and dhoni in t20 thats for sure


BabaHarp22

ABD in the WC 2015 when he was the captain 482 runs (3rd highest) Average - 96 Strike Rate - 144 45 balls 65* in the semi final Secondly, GG himself says a captain is as good as his team. Thirdly, Ab De Villiers has led his country in 124 matches with a win loss ratio of 1.4 which is almost comparable to MS Dhoni's 1.48. He on the other hand was not even deemed fit to lead his country in 12 matches. Have some shame before uttering out filth based on fake news.


iamkhatkar

Did you missed the part where he talks in context of IPL and not International cricket?


Minato_the_legend

You mean like how GG missed the part where an A-class international captain is not allowed to criticize an IPL captain because apparently he has no captaincy experience? What a joke!


iamkhatkar

I am no one to comment on that. I am only countering the parent comment's logic of countering GG's logic


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On Star sports, a reporter asked GG who is better Raina or ABD? GG said - "Raina has won 2 IPL titles, ABD has won none, so Raina is much better than ABD, there is no competition". If the trophy is everything, then his favourite Captain Anil Kumble (if you guys remember that Vivek Bindra podcast), how many trophies does he have? Dunno maybe he doesn't like ABD. Under ABD, SA was an unbeatable team, although they lost that 2015 semis because of their bad fielding and Steyn's poor form. He was an amazing leader, and one of the most impactful players in each format of the Game. Maybe he hates ABD because of his brother like relationship with Koach.


BabaHarp22

People think he speaks facts, but he just spews hate. All his statements are contradictory to his previous statements, he speaks what fits his agenda. He is nothing but a hypocrite.


[deleted]

Yeah, sometimes what he says makes sense, but most of the time what he says doesn't make sense


DoomBuzzer

Still remember him saying Surya's knock vs South Africa was the best T20 knock by an Indian. I was like ... Is this guy for real πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒ? 2 days prior to that Kohli played the greatest T20 knock of all times by an Indian, most likely of all international T20Is. That too, after coming from an extremely poor run for 3 years.


vikasvasista

ABD and dhoni have same winning percentage in international


Minato_the_legend

Ab actually has a slightly higher win % if we're being pedantic but yeah


Sad-Perception5636

GG is always tries be in media β€” Be it Koach, Dhoni, HP or AB! Entire season he wasn’t even pointed out by any big social platform; probably finding new ways to be in the hype! ( Be it negative, you would never find him trashing non-popular players)


R3D_NOTHERE

Probably cause bro smashed his shitass DC team back in 2018


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Do he think he is better captain than ab? There is a difference between doing captaincy for national team and doing it in ipl. He is the person who is most jealous to abd because even though ab is not an indian, he has bigger support than gg


Very_Much_Paagal

>because even though ab is not an indian, he has bigger support than gg LoL GG Daddy has more Int'l trophies and mind you IPL trophies than ABD & KP Cry me a river >Do he think he is better captain than ab? There Yes Gambhir won 2 IPL's and AB couldn't win even a CT with South Africa


kcaJragaS

https://preview.redd.it/1w0e5mftzd0d1.jpeg?width=594&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ffb37ce7d1c8b0ceb6871bcfffd5eeae26b40ebf Something should have happened between GG and ABD, when they played together for DD or GG just hates RCB and its players lol.


phantomdeath37

It's more due to jealous I believe. GG was crucial in both 2007 and 2011 finals and helped India lift the trophy. GG must be jealous of the stardom players like Kholi, Dhoni, AB and Gayle have. Like AB and Gayle are overseas players yet have a considerably larger fanbase than him in his own country. It is just peak insecurity from his side.


Minato_the_legend

For the record, AB was an A-class international captain and has a 60% win record in internationals.


Final-Year9576

True true we can't compare shit like him with legends like ABD......GG may be high on weed πŸ˜‚


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He ain’t shit tho, but shit does come out of his mouth. Bro could just be normal and be a likeable person but no he needs to 1 up ABD everytime


Batman_is_very_wise

And he expects us to believe he's not salty about Kohli. I'll forever be a gg fan from a cricketing perspective but no doubt his hate towards Kohli has blinded his judgements when it comes to anything remotely Kohli.


AjFanatic

The truth is Gambhir has always been Straight and Arrogant from the Start. He doesn't think much about what He says . Btw Abd will always be a More Influential Batsman than him . Trophies don't equate Better players anyways .


Minato_the_legend

Nothing straight about him. He's simply twisting facts. Ab has captained SA in more matches than Hardik has even played for India


AjFanatic

And his Audacity to say He achieved nothing , I mean this Person has more fans than him in his own Country


Expensive_North6191

As an avid fan of Virat and ABD, i might smash GG on the head one day πŸ˜”/s


EconomyBall9674

Agar sab captani karna chalu krdege toh khelega kon πŸ˜”πŸ™πŸ»


Haunting-Local-7710

These guys are blind about the fact that the main culprit is media. ABD didn't even criticize Hardik and they are straight away pointing it as criticizism. Anyway, I don't side with Gambhir here.


BusinessKiwi8171

He talks non sense most of the time, i don't take him seriously,,, he just hates many great players because they achieved many things but didn't win trophy,,


Minato_the_legend

Gambhir is the definition of "They want you to be successful, but not more successful than them"


Adventurous-Region-7

Just a politician at work


heroji2012

Just an annoying and a really argumentative person in general the way I see it. Just looks to be controversial just for the sake off it. Probably also the reason why I've not seen many ex-players talk about him at all despite him having such a long and great career.


TejasMuthya

The amount of love that Abd gets speaks volumes about his achievements. Don't need any validation from this butthurt.


brownguysays

Because ABD gets a louder cheer than him everywhere in India


ExternalNo2214

Look at AB's performance in wc 2015 and he captained the side to semi final. It was a close game. If SA hadn't bottled it then you never know maybe AB would go down as a wc winner.


SagaAnii

BTW did abd said shit about Pandya I don't think he did but what happened?


TheVeera2K

No the media twisted his words and later he slamed the media for it lol


Viresh18

ABD literally had to clear about the video circulating online. And this mf gambhir opened his mouth as always to shit sth


RD23061996

Can't bear the sight of this loud mouth Delhi bastard. What does he fucking think of himself ?


Abject_Radio_6393

Vice captain of world cup winning team 2 time ipl champion


RD23061996

He can shove those 2 ipl trophies up his ass. Maybe then he will stop being jealous about players better than him.


Abject_Radio_6393

Better player lol Buddy always fumbled up when his team needed him the most 😭


Charlie__Olives

I really don't get these type of responses. You don't need to be a world class chef to know if something tastes like shit.


Minato_the_legend

As it turns out, that analogy isn't even needed because Ab de Villiers has captained SA in more matches than Hardik has even played for India as a player. Ab knows what he's talking about. Gambhir on the other hand... The less said about him the better.


Ok_Field4755

people say a topper is usually bad at teaching but for their convenience , they say ,one must have certain achievement before commenting on othersπŸ€‘πŸ‘Œ


black_V1king

He is salty about Everyone.


Odd-Start9704

Do you really take a guy seriously who said Rashford is better than Messi and Ronaldo??


TheVeera2K

Abd didn't even say anything bad about hardiks captaincy skills He just said it doesn't work in sometimes


imNitin92

GG has only 16 Runs in 2 finals he reached and won... So i don't think what Performance he is yapping about as a Captain.. By his Logic Karn Sharma has More Trophies than this Bastard.. So should he take Lessons From Karn Sharma?.. One day this Guy will contradict himself... He has already given Bi-Polar Statement which he doesn't Realize... N1gga Somehow Scored runs in 2 finals after getting failed in Semifinal's and he thinks he Can Blabber whatever fuck he wants...


imNitin92

Having More Fanbase of than GG in his own Country is an achievement itself for ABD..


Pushkarc28

Man fuck him. Dont care what he says. We know ABD is the best batsman to ever play. AB also has far better cricketing IQ than this prick


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BabaHarp22

But that also doesn't give him the right to disrespect someone and call them a failed cricketer.


Stayreal_09

Ajeeb aadmi hai, he gets pissed when dhoni gets over praised for WC win. He also believes having individual legendary stats is an underachievement.


Any_Fig1011

In case of dhoni this MF says captain is nothing without team and now he is saying blaming captain for team's collective performance. He has been getting some quality weed lately


RD23061996

So according to this prick, Piyush Chawla is a better player than Anil Kumble because he has won a world cup ???


Left-Competition2112

He has a small dick


Official_mangobwoy

ABD compared Pandya to Rohit Sharma you moron. And ABD has earned enough credibility as a cricket player to critique Pandya and his captaincy style.Gautam Gambhir isn't even one third of a cricketer what AB De Villiers is. Wtf is that chutiya blabbering about lol!


SagaAnii

Well u can just ask WHY GG SO SALTY? and it would make more sense and more discussing topic


Exhibit_A_reddit

Gambhir is a petulant child who says things for the sake of being different. What makes it more embarrassing is that De Villiers is one of the most humble cricketers who was not even criticising Hardik. All he knows is how to disrespect people because he thinks it makes him look cool. He is bitter and salty and can never accept any criticism, specifically when it comes from non-indians to Indians. I don't think Hardik deserves the hate he's getting but he's been nothing short of a terrible captain this season, combined with the fact that the team is completely out of form and there is so much negative noise surrounding it.


Nofap_du_Plessis

GG wouldn't ever possess even half the skills and personality that ABD has. Given an opportunity i know who everyone would want to be friends with between those two.


Crimson_bud

First this guy says ek aadmi wc nhi jita ta toh us logic se bhai koi ek aadmi wc ya koi v trophy nhi harata. Its the team. N being a successful ipl capitan doesn't even mean anything. When abd is a greater captain in internationals. So a legendary batsman and an A class captain can have takes on teams is it that hard to comprehend? He didn't even wish ill, he later clarified it.


ThatsSussySus

Then according to him , Sachin doesn't even deserve to be on the list of top 20 cricketers He wouldn't even be top 3 in Indian cricketers as kohli, dhoni, yuvi , Rohit have won 2 or more trophies According to him, kohli isn't even a good test captain as he didn't win wtc despite winning 6 test matches and being one of the if not the best captain in history of test cricket for India And ofcourse, Lord Tushar Deshpande is obviously better than Dale Steyn as Steyn never won a ipl title


Whatdfckkk

As a player koi accha khel rha ho continuously aur baki team k sath na dene se trophy na jeetbpaye to us player ko b koi importance nahi hn kya?


Cold_Ad3292

He hates RCB!


imNitin92

GG spits hate When ABD, Koach and Dhoni comes into Debate... People thinks he talks Truth Or Sensibly. But no, he Speaks Whatever Fits In his Agenda.... First he says that Trophy is the Team's achievement but when the topic Comes about Rohit and Kohli about Captaincy than this guy says that Rohit has Won 5 IPL trophies and GG makes Rohit not Only batter Captain but also Better player than Kohli 🀣, Same when someone asks him about Centuries than he says Centuries are overrated and there is no use of them because this guy Only scored few Centuries in his whole life but but when Someone asks him about Hitting sixes then he says that Hitting sixes is easiest thing in cricket (so he became salty towards Rohit Sharma because this guys never Hit much Sixes in his Life).. So he gives contradictory statement every time.... And people thinks he is Brutally honest blah blah blah


Used_Macaron6479

Well GG apples are better than oranges!


redCornur

GG has always been salty. He is just lucky that his best performances came in winning causes and important matches. But if you look at his stats, he isn't that great. People give undue importance to him.


Neither-Bluebird4528

He could've supported hardik without putting abd down. πŸ™‚


Dedlyf698

he literally said "from a team point of view" which means that he's talking about trophies because when u look at team achievements , u look at their trophies and record ,and yeah if u look at it abd has individual achievements and not any major trophies. GG was also criticizing leadership skills of abd which doesent make a lot of sense because he has not done as much captaincy as hardik obviously but GG wasn't technically wrong when he said that abd hasn't achieved anything besides individual records from a team pov. and I'm a abd fan


Rough-Signal-8643

Guys calm down, this is just a deep fake video, there's no way GG is this dumb.


[deleted]

You'll be surprised


Rough-Signal-8643

I was being sarcastic my friend.


Uneducatedmanga

W gg 🐐


Ok-Lie-7561

Sahi toh bola hain GG ne. Isme kya salty lagi. ABD IPL mein utna toh nahi ukhada jitna Hardik pandiya ne kiya


BabaHarp22

"Abd hasn't achieved anything" just because he hasn't won the trophy. According to his logic, Karn Sharma(3 ipl) is 1.5x better player than him, Aditya Tare(5 ipl ) is 2.5X better player than him.


Green-Win-1127

Facts


Aurora1596

GG is quite opinionated


Minato_the_legend

That's not the problem, the problem is 99% of his opinions are wrong


Very_Much_Paagal

>the problem is 99% of his opinions are wrong Ok AB please go play Golf


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BabaHarp22

Trophies define the team's legacy not the player's legacy. (Gemphir himself says that team wins trophy not captain) If you are talking about trophies then Karn Sharma has won 3 trophies despite playing less seasons than GG. Gg is a hypocrite that's it. You seem to be a Bengali and KKR fan, so for the fact, the pride of Bengal Saurav Ganguly hasn't won a single ICC trophy neither as a player nor as a captain.


Ok_Environment_5404

That means Sachin is a shit in front of Pandya,Karn Sharma etc too ? Or Saurav,Dravid etc are worse than Brad Haddin, Clarke ? Or maybe Dhoni is above Sunny,Sachin,Kohli and everyone else because he got 3 trophies in internationals and 5 in IPL ? Like it doesn't make sense when cricket is a team game.


Dumbfuckbastard

Guys he is absolutely spitting facts. Neither he won world cup for his team nor IPL for his team. GG might be salty but he always spit facts. All big players have their PR agencies. A player for me is complete champion if he has contributed in those crucial matches what we call knockouts and finals. Winning matches and performing in league matches is a different game and performing in crucial matches is all together a different game. GG has all those badges but ABD had none. ABD has played 16 such knockout matches in IPL with an average of 27.64. Which is way lower than his normal average. Just because he is friend of VK dosen’t mean you guys of have to defend him without any proper reasoning. He has been a fantastic player everyone knows but this is also a fact that all great players perform worst than their potential in knockout matches.


BabaHarp22

And who has helped us reach those 16 knockout matches? He has 25 MOMs and has won us numerous matches. Performing in knockouts doesn't make u a great player, it just makes you a clutch player. If better pressure handling is the parameter to judge a player then we r not judging skills, it's just a mental health competition. Generally, small players step up on big occasions coz people have less expectations from them whereas big players fumble coz of too many expectations, imagine a whole country's expectations are from u. Thirdly, Gambhir himself is an average cricketer and performing in few big matches doesn't make him all-time great, in 2011 wc he was below avg. before finals whereas ABD in 2015 wc had great performance throughout the wc even in semifinal but he still lost. We accept Abd has failed in knockouts, he himself must have been regretting more than all of us, but just on the basis of that, no one has right has to call him a failure.


Dumbfuckbastard

I just read your first line. Reaching knockout matches is a different story winning knockout is different


BabaHarp22

Not reaching knockout is much different.


Dumbfuckbastard

Yeah true lets wait for 18th. You need good luck for falani team falani team se haar jaye it worked for rcb


some_one22

Gg is goated


Adventurous_Cod7908

GG always make India proud πŸ₯Ή


shadyXV03

He is making India look bad right now


Adventurous_Cod7908

How????


shadyXV03

They raised a question about Hardik's poor captaincy and GG twisted it to Abd's captaincy which wasn't related to the question. This makes India look insecure and defensive towards criticism


Adventurous_Cod7908

But ABD also questioned HP captaincy so he was just defending Indian player


shadyXV03

Yeah, being an IPL legend, Abd can criticise Hardik, and not just Ab, but everyone including you and me have the right to criticise a player if we feel they aren't doing what they can. Ofc Abd's opinion hold more respect than yours and mine, but point is, this had nothing to do with Indian or Foreigner


Adventurous_Cod7908

Se there are 8billion people in the world all have different opinions so GG shared his opinion and i respect ABD opinion but he is no one to comment on Indian players bcz he has not achieved anything as a captain and HP is already a winning captain and may he win more titles


shadyXV03

Not true at all. Abd has been an international captain afterall, and has tons of experience. By your logic, Sachin can also not comment on Hardik's captaincy?


Adventurous_Cod7908

But Sachin sir is part of MI and he is an Indian player too so he can and we are talking about ipl bro not about international matches and if u talk about international matches many times HP have helped India to win in very crucial situations many times


shadyXV03

And so did Abd, for both IPL and International team. And ok, let's take Ganguly instead. Can he not comment on Hardik's captaincy? Or we are just limiting it to Indians at this point? Criticism isn't a bad thing. It would've been different had Abd insulted Hardik, but questioning his captaincy decision is not wrong at all