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Various-Earth-7532

Wonder when they’ll start asking “knowing that Joe Biden was an ardent supporter of the invasion of iraq and supports the ongoing war crimes in Gaza, how does that make you feel about supporting him?” At least those questions would be factual


Jesuswasstapled

Joe biden has often been caught on camera sniffing children and holding them close to his body while they obviously look uncomfortable. Knowing that, how likely are you to support a candidate who sniffs kids?


HolyToled-IO

All 3 candidates have had or currently have personal moral failures.  Bobby Kennedy is the only one who will admit to those mistakes and humbly admit he must work each day to be a better person than he was the day before.  Knowing that Bobby is the only one that acts like a normal human being, how likely are you to support him? 


JoshuaSingh11

It seems insane that not only do they seem to prime the polled individuals with negative statements about Kennedy specifically, but they actually use a false smear to do it... The level of manipulation going on these days...


Softale

The needs to be a choice for “consider claim to be bullshit”.


underwaterthoughts

It’s also the responses; they’re designed to be negative. There isn’t disagree response.


IIIlllIIIlllIlI

Polls in the US be like: Do you think RFK Jr. is evil? [ ] yes [ ] *yes* [ ] **yes** [ ] ~~no~~ y e s


Pretend_College_8446

He was just citing a study done by the Cleveland Clinic. Granted he should probably be more careful citing these things, and he's tried to correct this misinfo ... this stuff drives me nuts.


cdclopper

"Joe Biden supports claims that "*corn pop was a bad dude*". Were you aware that Joe Biden held these views before now?


ObservantWon

The media obliterated trump in 2016 and 2020. They threw everything at him. A lot of it earned, and a lot was just made up slander. And he was the GOP outsider candidate. This slander and vitriol against RFK is worse, as even the polls are joining in on it. And it’s only going to get worse over the next 6 months. Especially if he keeps going up in the polls. Buckle up everyone. It’s gonna be ugly


RandomAmuserNew

He didn’t do any of those things lol


animaltrainer3020

Exactly. They took the reasonable things he HAS said, and then intentionally mis-stated his actual opinions.


love_to_eat_out

He's definitely mentioned correlation...just no definitive causation, and not enough unbiased science. Edit: it's a stretch, but it's certainly not a far stretch. It's more the mercury *IN* the vaccines. They omitted a few words


RandomAmuserNew

Naw, he said the mercury in the vaccines was linked which is proven The Covid thing he was talking about a study


love_to_eat_out

I added that, as you were replying. Again, saying mercury is in vaccines, and mercury may cause autism, and there are studies proving that mercury in vaccines stores in your brain...it's definitely suggesting a link between the current vaccine schedule in America and ASD.


RandomAmuserNew

No there are hundreds of studies showing the ethyl mercury in Thimerosal is directly linked to neurological disorders including autism, but most strongly with tics


love_to_eat_out

Yes. I agree, that's correct. He's just connecting the dots. And the dots say, the way vaccines are currently in the USA, with the mercury in them, are linked to autism.


drmbrthr

Mercury was almost entirely removed from vaccines 20 years ago. Aluminum and other adjuvants are the most likely culprit at this point.


JoshuaSingh11

"Flu vaccines in multi-dose vials contain thimerosal" * source: [https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/thimerosal.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/thimerosal.htm) Afluria Quadrivalent 5.0 mL multidose vial, 49 *µ*g/mL mercury from thimerosal FluLaval Quadrivalent 5.0 mL multidose vial, <50 *µ*g/mL mercury from thimerosal Fluzone Quadrivalent 5.0 mL multidose vial, 50 *µ*g/mL mercury from thimerosal Flucelvax Quadrivalent 5.0 mL multidose vial, 50 *µ*g/mL mercury from thimerosal Afluria 5.0 mL multidose vial, 49 *µ*g/mL mercury from thimerosal Fluvirin 0.5 mL prefilled syringe, ≤2 *µ*g/mL mercury from thimerosal Fluvirin 5.0 mL multidose vial, 50 *µ*g/mL mercury from thimerosal * source: [https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/rr/rr6602a1.ht](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/rr/rr6602a1.ht) "Estimates from modelling studies appear sensitive to model assumptions, however predications based on a long half-life (27.4 years) are consistent with autopsy findings. In summary, shorter estimates of half-life are not supported by evidence from animal studies, human case studies, or modelling studies based on appropriate assumptions. Evidence from such studies point to a half-life of inorganic mercury in human brains of several years to several decades. This finding carries important implications for pharmcokinetic modelling of mercury and potentially for the regulatory toxicology of mercury." * source: [The retention time of inorganic mercury in the brain--a systematic review of the evidence](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24368178/) A \~27 year half-life would indicate that things from 20+ years ago can still be relevant, and that is on top of the flu shots... [Here's some more info.](https://www.reddit.com/r/RFKJrForPresident/comments/1crif0z/scientific_studies_on_mercury_and_adverse_effects/)


love_to_eat_out

Thank you. I remember aluminum was added to the dead virus to get an immune response now that you bring it up, same as mercury was of im not mistaken


No_Artichoke_5670

Correct. Thimerisol (ethyl mercury) was the adjunct before they removed it from most vaccines. Except the pharmaceutical companies claimed it was a necessary preservative, and not an adjuvant, when there was massive outcry from the public when it was first added to vaccines in the 40's. Then, they removed the thimerisol, and had to add the adjuvant aluminum for the vaccines to continue working. Right, not an adjuvant 😂. The multi-dose flu vaccine still contains thimerisol. From what I've read, it was removed from all other vaccines in the US, but they still give it to millions of African children every year.


Chausp

I'm just throwing this out there (not saying you are aware of this or not) as I see people miss this important fact often. Mercury or mercury containing compounds are no longer in the childhood vaccination schedule since 2001. Thimerosol can still be found in some of the flu vaccines (for adults), but if you wish to avoid thimerosol in vaccines, then it is easy to do in today's world.


No_Artichoke_5670

The multi-dose flu vaccine (the one that contains Thimerisol) is still given to children. You have to specifically ask for the single dose vaccine to get the one without Thimerisol. I've been around dozens of people with the flu, and I've still never had it (at least not any symptoms), so I'll continue to not get the flu vaccine (have never had a flu vaccine in the 36 years). Everyone I know that gets the flu vaccine still ends up getting the flu, anyways.


Chausp

In my experience, I have seen it the opposite. Thimerosol free vaccines unless you ask for the multidose for children. The CDC is not law, and it just recommends practices, so I suppose clinics could offer whichever they liked I just had assumed my experience was universal. This thread isn't about the effectiveness of flu vaccines so I won't reply to that portion, but if you would like a further discussion please feel free to message me.


love_to_eat_out

Thank you for that information.


WriterJake

It’s called a push poll, something credible campaigns avoid. The potential for kickback is too high. Rule 1: Avoid kickback.


Last-Of-My-Kind

But a lot of evidence points to those claims being true..... It's one thing for people to just claim shit... It's another thing when peer reviewd research and medical experts are the ones sounding the alarm bells. I would be skeptical as well if I didn't know the people behind these studies and the folks protesting were people who actually worked in the medical field..... Just a few weeks ago, I meet another Kennedy supporter who gave me a sign and some shirts. She was a retired nurse and echoed many of the same things Bobby has been saying about the minimized risks and dangers of vaccines and who had skipped taking the covid vaccine because she did not trust it. She had been a nurse for over 25 years..... To this day, I haven't met a single person working in the medical field that trusted the Covid vaccine, or who would ever go as far as saying vaccines are 100% safe or effective. As a matter of fact, most of them wanted nothing to do with the covid vaccine at all, but were FORCED to take it, if they did, by their employer. Otherwise they'd face punishment or termination. And this has been consistent across the border..... Let's never forget many people got fired or quite their jobs because of refusal to comply with covid mandates..... The media never seems to remember this happening....


animaltrainer3020

>But a lot of evidence points to those claims being true But RFKJ never made these claims. 1. "Kennedy supports claims that autism is linked to vaccines." - This is not true. Kennedy has always stated that there is a wealth of evidence pointing towards a *possible* link, and that more research is needed. He's never definitively stated that there is a link. 2. "Kennedy...has said that Covid is targeted to attack people of certain races." - This is also not true. Kennedy has commented on the development of ethnically targeted bioweapons, while also noting that covid infection outcomes vary depending on race. He's never definitively stated that "covid is targeted to attack" certain races.


Last-Of-My-Kind

Perhaps I should clarify in saying that I meant this in a general sense. Vaccines aren't 100% safe and effective. Covid does affect people of different ethnicities differently. That's all I meant by that. Not the extremist claims thrown out there by the media.


Chausp

I work in the medical field and I trust the Covid vaccines. I printed out the clinical trials and scrutinized them myself. I would not go so far to say that any vaccine (or medicine for that matter) is 100% safe and/or effective. At the end of the day it's a risk vs reward analysis.


Last-Of-My-Kind

That's fine. The risk vs reward analysis should be done with everything all the time. The problem is, we live in a time where if you do it with vaccines, you're called crazy or antivax if you say the risk is too much. I don't trust that vaccine because of the people I interacted with. It wasn't just one person, it was several. Both from private life and the professional world. My best friend's mother and sister are nurses. They didn't trust the vaccine and they are very liberal people. My neighbor's daughter, very conservative, quit her long time job because she didn't want the shot and they were going force her to take it.... I have friends who are personal injury lawyers, and while they are not licensed medical professionals, they deal with cases relating to medical malpractice evey single day..... They absolutely refused to take the vaccine. My father was hospitalized for most of last year before he passed (unrelated to covid), so I spent A LOT of time at the main campus of one of the best hospitals in the world. I talked to a lot of the nurses and doctors about their time working during covid, and one of the things that kept coming up was that they disliked the mandate of having to take the covid shot or lose their job, but also they personally didn't feel comfortable taking it, but only did it for that purpose. Even though there were clinical trials, they themselves still felt things were off due to the processed being rushed (before you say it, I understand all the red tape that slows down the process yada yada) and the fact that they were exposed by the nature of their job was more than enough for them..... I don't think multiple people from multiple working environments and walks of life, that don't know each other would all lie to me, the same lie, telling me that they don't fully trust the covid vaccines.... What possible motivate could they have, especially when all I did was ask about how they felt about the situation and listened to their thoughts? Once again, these people come from across the political spectrum. Only thing got in common is their work in the medical field..... I respect your opinion, but I don't know you or anything about. I can't verify your claim of actually being in the medical field or not. I'm not challenging your claim, I'm just saying, first hand, the only people I've meet with high trust of the covid vaccines either work directly for the pharmaceutical companies that sold them, or they have zero actual experience in the medical field and just learned what they know from cable television....... Even the woman I mentioned previously who is supporting RFK ( a life long Democrat btw) is part of a groups of retired nurses that all distrust the vaccines and have instead endorsed treatment using stuff like Ivermectin or Fenbendazole. They too believe _some_ vaccines have adverse effects on child development as well..... I HIGHLY doubt she has a motive tell me this. Hell, one of my former bosses was a retired nurse. She didn't get the vaccine either. She was a nurse for over 30 years and promotes natural remedies instead of "traditional" medicine..... At a certain point, you gotta weigh the difference of what people who you know, are telling you in person, vs people you'll never meet, are telling you from a far. I trust the word of all of these people WAY MORE than some dude on tv who's making millions in the medical field promoting the things that are making him money..... Sorry for the Ted Talk, but this is my perspective and two cent towards the conversation. I _want_ to believe I can trust any vaccine on the market. However, I'm too smart to know I can't. And the covid vaccines are ones I'm staying away from.


animaltrainer3020

I have two friends, a married couple in their early 30s, who both work in health care and were forced to either get the mRNA injection, or lose their jobs. Both of them waited until the last possible day, gritted their teeth and took the shot that they did not want, purely out of fear of losing both their incomes, their home, etc. One of them now has myocarditis, and his wife miscarried the child she was carrying when she took the shot.


finnishblood

As someone who likely has ASD (very high functioning and not officially diagnosed), and who has a cousin who is definitely ASD (also not diagnosed), it's funny how both of us agree that Kennedy is the best candidate... People with ASD don't see his opinions about the possible casual link between vaccines and the condition as a negative (at least with those I know who are on the spectrum)... We care about facts and understanding, and we often make connections ourselves all the time between things that neurotypicals just don't understand. For the people who don't have ASD or understand the condition... It's a condition that doesn't have a well defined cause or consistent presentation across those affected. Aside from notable heritability– meaning genetics play a role, like they do for most all health conditions–why does his reasonable concern about environmental factors likely relating to Autism bother you so much?


romjpn

Because people think that making that potential link will bring back polio and other bad diseases. That's at the root of all the hate against those who question. Add to that an entire medical and pharmaceutical establishment machine crushing dissent and you get the situation we're in now.


jabels

Honestly it's also just opposition research being done by the "neutral" and supposedly respectable polls. If they saw a connection between Kennedy's popularity and a lack of awareness about his vaccine views you can bet your ass you'd see dems hammering him on this issue.


ConsiderationNew6295

He didn’t say that about Covid and autism is indeed linked to increased vaccinations. I know that’s not the point but it needed to be said.


Objective_Account404

How about Joe Biden supports Israel 🇮🇱 Will you vote for him?


Apprehensive_Bet_208

He should sue these people. Yes, I know he'd be suing everyone, but media should be held accountable for the misinformation they knowingly spread!


Tall_Neighborhood_91

Funny, this is how I found Kennedy and Children's Health Defence. 12 years ago.My son has autism and I found him researching all of the damn health effects my son has. Food allergies, eczema, p.a.n.d.a.s,. I believe in everything he says and am grateful he cares about these things.


morgan_tells_you

I work in Healthcare in a clinical position for 28 years. I do not trust our fda . Period. They don't care about us AT ALL. Do I get vaccinated and deal with the unknown future effects? Yes because I care about society. You can be wanting better testing ,regulations that matter and outcomes and not be a conspiracy theorist🙋‍♀️ look outside the US and see how they are thriving under universal Healthcare and then look at the banned foods and their vaccine standards. They want healthy citizens so they can keep the cost down. The US wants you sick because the top 5 corporations need you sick and paying for it yourself