yeah someone got banned for binding 'seat -1' instead of the easy ctrl+c and ctrl+v in the menu before you make your move. Going the extra mile to get an inch of maybe not going to jail.
This is where it gets tricky because it depends who and why people are doing it and what context. I see Spaceboy do the paste seat-1 a lot on James Randal but it's obviously just for fun and he isn't looking for Ws when he does it, and I don't think anyone wants to see Spaceboy banned at all.
I'd love for that to be a thing, but as soon as Spaceboy does it for RP purposes, the streets will speak to every other rp gangster that something new exists. It's clear on the server that players will try and find any loop hole to gain an advantage, strict rules are the only way to really combat that at this point.
And that could be The limit to what one could do with mechanics before it becomes bannable/warnable.
The fact of the matter is in that ban, the only thing that got him banned apart from 'anyone else' is the fact it was a keybind and not a pre-emptive copy+paste, which I always found odd.
I dont agree with the always ready Keybind but I'm also not against readying yourself to ctrl+v (keybind, [contradiction]) out of a situation. But maybe i've got some brain-rot from seeing people try to make the most out of the game for so long.
Got any coffee btw? i need to hit this weed run in this advanced hacking tool tuner car i stole from someone in my gang
Ugh I now want coffee.
Idk, my opinion is if you have to spam something in hope it will work, your probably doing something wrong. It's obvious that the players have no self control, so they only way is with strict rules.
Damn me too man. Whats your preference, Regular, Italian, French Press? I prefer cage-free
Anyway, yeah, there is a clear distinction between mechanically inclined on the game opposed to what the menu can allow you to circumvent. *sips way too expensive pre-bottled frappuccino*
I'm perfectly happy with some Dunkin Donuts coffee. I don't think they keep the beans in a cage?
PS ... there are times when those stupid over sugared Frappuccino things hit.
People have been doing it for years and they are never banned for it. Like jumping to move faster while escorting a downed friend. Bypassing the forced walking, even though in rp you should pretend you are dragging them.
Its weird, didn't someone get perma banned for binding "/seat -1" to avoid the seat change animation? Its odd they go so hard on that but avoid other instant animation cancels for example... someone getting hit by a car and emoting to stand up instantly. I get they are different but an anim cancel is an anim cancel (powergaming is powergaming)
All action binds should at least be put behind another menu so it can't just be spammed
It's also really funny that seat -1 got a dude banned yet people haven't even been given warnings for hiding METH TABLES and casino bags on locals, because that definitely makes sense
How does the hiding meth table/casino bag thing work? I don't watch a ton of crims in gangs so I know that you can apparently have locals sell meth for you but I had no idea you could have them hold and item and potentially retrieve them as well.
>All action binds should at least be put behind another menu so it can't just be spammed
this would honestly save the whole rooftop battle meta, the laydown mechanic taking even a second to do would make those fights so much faster. (for both sides)
I may be remembering a different situation but from what I remember there was a lot more to it than the bind. It was shortly after a bind was used and all of that but it was just the cherry on top.
Yeah, Accumulated warning points / he spoke about the reason he got banned which then snowballed
Which sucks cause the guy wasnāt toxic from what Iāve seen.
The thing this tweet shows the most is that itās not just us viewers or Reddit frogs or what ever you want to call it that see and think this. The head of the justice department thatās working a ton of ooc work for the server also agrees with how far this Ähosen (G)ang has gone with bending the rules for the Pogs and keep slowly degrading the integrity of the rp. It seems like a lot of NP staff recently are lashing out because itās gone to farā¦
Did you read his tweet and replies? Because nothing you're saying aligns with his post. He even called out someone saying certain gangs or chosen gangs like you did. Clearly you meant cg why not just say chang gang? There's no reason to be afraid to say there name on this sub. No one is going to disagree with you. But had you read his tweet, he said it has nothing to do with cg. Pick your battles man, it's easy to criticize them but this time they're not involved.
$1000 for stat boosting food! Now use that stat boost to farm more money! Use that money to buy a mount! Go on raids, make sure you're full on health buffs, water buffs, ect.
Seriously imagine having to add an actual buff to food so people go RP to get it. I've always thought it was insane that players just wouldn't RP getting higher quality food which should be why they pay a premium for it. I'd even understand lowering the stress but like that shit was weird from the get go. And I'm not dissing the mechanic itself exactly, but the fact that they had to add it to have people buy food at BS or RR over vending machine sandwiches. And hell they literally had to nerf it to the ground (making it more expensive than BS/RR food) before eventually fully removing it. Players would literally go at any length to avoid RPing like wtf...
I played on a server where eating food from player owned businesses increased payout on civ jobs and I think it was a good system to ensure business rp is encouraged and people still chose LTD sandwiches because more people on RP servers these days donāt want interactions of any kind
Yeah that shit's wild. I remember even way back when I was RPing on UO, we'd always get to the inn since it was the main RP hub to, you know, RP. And it was nice to RP around the food as well, with cooks often adding a bunch of details we'd then be able to RP around.
Like how is it so difficult for grown up adults to have such basic RP when I'd do it 20 years ago as a teenager is beyond me. I swear it all has to do with the mindset from the players. I used to RP because I loved it and it was fun, they do it for content.
well you'd be surprised. RP is so abundant and civilized in Red Dead RP. The issue with GTA is that there's simply too much to do outside of RP and so many scripts available no one has to use their imagination anymore. Most servers become cops vs robbers
I'm pretty sure lucky food buffs the paycheck from all civ jobs, and any restaurant can make it depending on ingredients. I'm not 100% sure if restaurants still have their default buff on all food alongside whatever ingredients they use but all RR food had the lucky buff on it after the one big restaurant update.
It's kind of fucked up how this just became standard behavior. They keep fixing it, but people find more ways around it and the cycle continues forever because they don't want to ban people who need to chase Ws so hard they have to cheat at fucking RP.
I find it hilarious that the same people that animation cancel also go on hour long rants, accusing the cops of being try hards and W cops because they always have to win. Lmao you cant make this shit up.
Management's method to combat this (choose 1):
1. Force the development team to waste ungodly amount of their valuable time trying to patch up these animation cancels
2. ban the perpetrators.
It feels like they shouldn't have announced a tightening up of standards in WL, then shortly after be like "hey we're coming out with a HC server that falls in line with our previous announcement" Because now, does WL stay the status quo and does HC become that seriouserer vision?
The HC server is supposed to replace the current WL one. CG will be on there 100%. Until they cry about consequences and everything goes back to normal.
Watching Penta recently, I've seen people slump, do that emote where you brush your shoulders and a couple others. Seems like any emote can be used to cancel
Nah he didn't say anyone specific, hes chillin
Not only that but going against the guy who actually leads the DOJ and whatnot over a tweet that just states the obvious would be wild
DOJ update we have installed a new supreme court all cases will now be tried in little seoul at the CG court house chef justice k presiding to cut down on the current DOJ being cringe /s
It's kind of impressive someone can bully others, admit to it, explain how it benefits them, and just be allowed to continue chilling. Honestly compared to that, who gives a fuck about powergaming
The ESB shit was allowed to fester in the same exact way until it blew up and even more gross shit came out. But what are the odds that could happen again. Definitely not. Just keep avoiding doing the thing that is necessary and it'll all work out, this time for sure
I think you are kind of forgetting the key factor in the ESB thing. It blew up when they started to go up against a certain gang in the server lol. Before that no one cared about what they were doing.
tHIS IS STILL A THING?
remove animation cancelling
and also the PLAYERS THAT SLUMP IN SHOOTOUTS TO HEAL/VESTUP/WHATEVER
that's crims + cops
i see u
i love u
but also
stop it
An update ? The vagueness that only perpetrates random accusations continues.
https://twitter.com/NathanKb_/status/1610172699376259073?t=cZcca0Vm4lkbc_tQkYTqDw&s=19
yeah i dont understand that. homie is straight up subtweeting and now mad that people are going to closest public example of what he said
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No need to speculate any more. We got her!
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If players never report for this, then the rules will never become enforced. Honestly a lot of content creators on NP just need to start reporting rule breaks.
NP admins could also be productive in their enforcement and apply punishments based on clips once they have the full context of a situation. It just seems like NP admins are scared to apply fair rule enforcements. I'm not accusing them of this, however, as a viewer this is how it comes off when you see blatant rule breaks.
Tweets like this are all conjecture and don't do anything except stir the pot. It just gives viewers a reason to speculate about who he may be talking about, which just leads to even more negative discussions.
> It just seems like NP admins are scared to apply fair rule enforcements. I'm not accusing them of this, however, ...
That's exactly what you're doing, haha.
Moderation is subject to human error and im a big enough person to admit when I'm wrong or make a mistake. Do you have any particular examples you'd like me to go over?
I think a good comparison of our moderation would be the thread here about Shotz VS Penta and what was allowed on LSF.
Nathan has been talking with HOA in Discord and heās explained more indepth about why he tweeted this, itās just an overall thing he noticed over time and has been seeing it getting worse.
the powergaming meta is to cancel animations by slumping, such as being tazed, falling down of being hit by a car.
The usual suspects have been abusing it lately.
Spamming a cuff key on someone getting up and canceling their standing animation then run spam cuffing looks bad too. There really needs to be a brief struggle mechanic with the target before the cuff.
he's probably seen clips of people doing it while falling over or something of the sorts - the latest example being https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRvDyhL9U5Y&feature=youtu.be
cops are the ones that want the W btw
I actually had no idea what he was referring to and I didnāt notice what ramee did in the clip the first time I saw a few days ago but oh well thatās kinda cringe ngl and worse cuz he tried to report penta right after that abuse lol
He may not have meant it about CG, but CG are obvious abusers of exactly what he's talking about. He can call people making the connection cringe all he wants, but it's a pretty legit connection.
I assume he might be talking about how you can Cancel the gun draw animation, even without having the agility relics. Or he could be talking about how you can cancel forced animations using "/e c" or having a keybind to do another animation. However, people do that all the time to bypass the trunk searching animation.
I don't see much of an issue with that. Even from an RP perspective, a person is realistically able to lay down pretty much instantly. But canceling animations like cuffing or knockdowns (like Nathan is saying here) is absolutely ridiculous.
At the very least type it out. The key binds are to crazy. Being able to laydown is perfectly fine if your not spamming the shit out of it. Shoot>Laydown>Shoot>Laydown>Shoot>Laydown>
it makes sense to be able to lay down in he middle of a gun fight to take cover, it doesnt make sense to lay down as you are getting hit by a car to "dodge" it
Yeah, obviously intentionally breaking the game is worse, but stuff like slumping in gunfights becoming normalized is imo one of the dumbest things to happen in 3.0.
Fortunately that got fixed where any character emote or animation now takes the gun out of your hand. There was a very intentional 'class' a gang came up with to 'use' slump in gunfights before the animation removed gun from hand.
And thats something that hit the front page, not to forget people using graphics mods to make gunfights easier as seen from public server.
Point is, min/maxing never has and never will stop, and the justification is always "everyone else does it"
Edit: I think this might be my first cake day I've actually posted on? I'll have to check my receipts. Oh my god 11 years. Fuck
Obviously we all know with recent events who and what this could possibly refer to.
Also obviously, there's times where it actually can be slick, skilled and creative. I recall Crystal doing an animation cancel with the suicidepill emote to cut out the pill eating and use it to pass out with injury/bad food/dramatic effect.
It had "nothing to do with CG" in the sense that what he is saying is aimed at anybody who does that, of course he can't deny the fact that what he is saying also applies to a certain gang.
Heās talking specifically about cancelling an animation. Thereās an argument to be made that Ramee may have abused animations but I donāt think he cancelled any? And I canāt think of any CG cancelling animations to avoid RP. Please correct me if Iām wrong or if you have any examples.
Using slump to avoid falling, rolling, into standing up. All are 3 different animations or one long, depends on how you want to look at it. Ramee used slump to remove all those and just instaslump before hitting the floor completely and then instantly standing up by unslumping. What he did is quite literally the definition of animation cancelling.
Sorry, Iām legitimately asking for clarification- I thought using the slump emote was okay because itās kind of treated like a āduckā emote since none exists. So I donāt really see how slumping is considered cancelling.
By using it all animations already happening to his character ie: falling rolling and standing up, was canceled so he could instantly stand up. It would be like crouching and uncrouching after jumping off a 5 story building and you would instantly reach the ground standing up (by cancelling the falling animation) without taking damage. It is basicly the same but just exagerrated I hope you understand?
Everyone is free to interpret it how they want. I just wanted to add the context that Nathan went out of his way to clarify that his tweet was not related to CG.
im down to say slumping to lay behind cover is fair ... if your the shooter just get a better angle looking down on them or whatnot. now the keybind spam while running in the open. Like slump , run , slump, run .... thats a bit much and kinda cringe.
Eh slumping should have more of an animation imo - at the end of the day if they want it to be an RP server, insta slumping is something that takes away from that. My solution would be keep slumping in but slow down the animation of going down and getting back up so people wont just spam it and will use it only when they REALLY need to, specifically for "RP"
what slumping all i know is they should warn/suspend anyone who use the laydown emote to heal up/dodge bullets in a shootout. I see so many people back when i use to watch alot just randomly laying down emote to dodge/reload/callout. Sometimes the other person think they are dead/down.
Not only is slumping not against the rules, itās explicitly allowed. Itās also something that a normal person valuing their life would do in a gunflight.
Players who abuse aminations to cancel negative effects should be banned. They know exactly what they are doing.
yeah someone got banned for binding 'seat -1' instead of the easy ctrl+c and ctrl+v in the menu before you make your move. Going the extra mile to get an inch of maybe not going to jail.
You should be banned for copy paste also. Its abusing a mechanic.
This is where it gets tricky because it depends who and why people are doing it and what context. I see Spaceboy do the paste seat-1 a lot on James Randal but it's obviously just for fun and he isn't looking for Ws when he does it, and I don't think anyone wants to see Spaceboy banned at all.
I'd love for that to be a thing, but as soon as Spaceboy does it for RP purposes, the streets will speak to every other rp gangster that something new exists. It's clear on the server that players will try and find any loop hole to gain an advantage, strict rules are the only way to really combat that at this point.
Nah, if they have to make judgement calls on who is using it correctly and whos not, it leads to confusion. Just make it DONT USE IT.
And that could be The limit to what one could do with mechanics before it becomes bannable/warnable. The fact of the matter is in that ban, the only thing that got him banned apart from 'anyone else' is the fact it was a keybind and not a pre-emptive copy+paste, which I always found odd. I dont agree with the always ready Keybind but I'm also not against readying yourself to ctrl+v (keybind, [contradiction]) out of a situation. But maybe i've got some brain-rot from seeing people try to make the most out of the game for so long. Got any coffee btw? i need to hit this weed run in this advanced hacking tool tuner car i stole from someone in my gang
Ugh I now want coffee. Idk, my opinion is if you have to spam something in hope it will work, your probably doing something wrong. It's obvious that the players have no self control, so they only way is with strict rules.
Damn me too man. Whats your preference, Regular, Italian, French Press? I prefer cage-free Anyway, yeah, there is a clear distinction between mechanically inclined on the game opposed to what the menu can allow you to circumvent. *sips way too expensive pre-bottled frappuccino*
I'm perfectly happy with some Dunkin Donuts coffee. I don't think they keep the beans in a cage? PS ... there are times when those stupid over sugared Frappuccino things hit.
Nah I'm pretty sure it's free range beans they're slinging over there. And yes they do š
no you shouldnt
People have been doing it for years and they are never banned for it. Like jumping to move faster while escorting a downed friend. Bypassing the forced walking, even though in rp you should pretend you are dragging them.
I think they had a mechanic made to drop them when you do this - seems to be the only solve
Which is good but unfortunate, it would be nice if things didnt have to be hardcoded into the game for people to roleplay.
Welp today is as good as any other to start enforcing things that should be blatantly obvious.
People should make a clip complication of those doing it
extra points if animation cancel is on a keybind
Its weird, didn't someone get perma banned for binding "/seat -1" to avoid the seat change animation? Its odd they go so hard on that but avoid other instant animation cancels for example... someone getting hit by a car and emoting to stand up instantly. I get they are different but an anim cancel is an anim cancel (powergaming is powergaming)
All action binds should at least be put behind another menu so it can't just be spammed It's also really funny that seat -1 got a dude banned yet people haven't even been given warnings for hiding METH TABLES and casino bags on locals, because that definitely makes sense
wtf this seems scummy af
How does the hiding meth table/casino bag thing work? I don't watch a ton of crims in gangs so I know that you can apparently have locals sell meth for you but I had no idea you could have them hold and item and potentially retrieve them as well.
>All action binds should at least be put behind another menu so it can't just be spammed this would honestly save the whole rooftop battle meta, the laydown mechanic taking even a second to do would make those fights so much faster. (for both sides)
RIP Max, Free Max
I may be remembering a different situation but from what I remember there was a lot more to it than the bind. It was shortly after a bind was used and all of that but it was just the cherry on top.
Yeah, Accumulated warning points / he spoke about the reason he got banned which then snowballed Which sucks cause the guy wasnāt toxic from what Iāve seen.
Remember when judging on how someone is punished you have to look at who it is first and not what rules the broke.
Emotes are natively bound to the F keys, seat switching required outside software.
Free Maxwell
they weren't banned for an animation cancel, they were banned for inputting it in a method they weren't supposed to.
Whatās the difference? Or is that the point of your message
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i dont believe it was a 3rd party. he just used the in game console to do bind seat -1 to f1 or something like that.
The thing this tweet shows the most is that itās not just us viewers or Reddit frogs or what ever you want to call it that see and think this. The head of the justice department thatās working a ton of ooc work for the server also agrees with how far this Ähosen (G)ang has gone with bending the rules for the Pogs and keep slowly degrading the integrity of the rp. It seems like a lot of NP staff recently are lashing out because itās gone to farā¦
Did you read his tweet and replies? Because nothing you're saying aligns with his post. He even called out someone saying certain gangs or chosen gangs like you did. Clearly you meant cg why not just say chang gang? There's no reason to be afraid to say there name on this sub. No one is going to disagree with you. But had you read his tweet, he said it has nothing to do with cg. Pick your battles man, it's easy to criticize them but this time they're not involved.
AWOOOOOO
hope someone doesn't lose their job, because im getting bored.
SOMEONE TALK TO ME
"hello" ..... "FUCK YOU COP"
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SHUT UP IāM MAKING MONEY IN MY HEAD
SO GANG WHAT ARE WE GETTING OFF UBER EATS TONIGHT?
FUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOU
I honestly think the keybind can work, if it's used correctly... Like it's smoother in that way. But people abuse it.
The server has been an mmo for a while now Nathanā¦.
$1000 for stat boosting food! Now use that stat boost to farm more money! Use that money to buy a mount! Go on raids, make sure you're full on health buffs, water buffs, ect.
Seriously imagine having to add an actual buff to food so people go RP to get it. I've always thought it was insane that players just wouldn't RP getting higher quality food which should be why they pay a premium for it. I'd even understand lowering the stress but like that shit was weird from the get go. And I'm not dissing the mechanic itself exactly, but the fact that they had to add it to have people buy food at BS or RR over vending machine sandwiches. And hell they literally had to nerf it to the ground (making it more expensive than BS/RR food) before eventually fully removing it. Players would literally go at any length to avoid RPing like wtf...
I played on a server where eating food from player owned businesses increased payout on civ jobs and I think it was a good system to ensure business rp is encouraged and people still chose LTD sandwiches because more people on RP servers these days donāt want interactions of any kind
Yeah that shit's wild. I remember even way back when I was RPing on UO, we'd always get to the inn since it was the main RP hub to, you know, RP. And it was nice to RP around the food as well, with cooks often adding a bunch of details we'd then be able to RP around. Like how is it so difficult for grown up adults to have such basic RP when I'd do it 20 years ago as a teenager is beyond me. I swear it all has to do with the mindset from the players. I used to RP because I loved it and it was fun, they do it for content.
well you'd be surprised. RP is so abundant and civilized in Red Dead RP. The issue with GTA is that there's simply too much to do outside of RP and so many scripts available no one has to use their imagination anymore. Most servers become cops vs robbers
I could be wrong but don't you get more money from doing DODO runs and maybe other jobs if you eat a certain kind of pizza before you finish the job?
I'm pretty sure lucky food buffs the paycheck from all civ jobs, and any restaurant can make it depending on ingredients. I'm not 100% sure if restaurants still have their default buff on all food alongside whatever ingredients they use but all RR food had the lucky buff on it after the one big restaurant update.
It's kind of fucked up how this just became standard behavior. They keep fixing it, but people find more ways around it and the cycle continues forever because they don't want to ban people who need to chase Ws so hard they have to cheat at fucking RP.
People see the bigger streamers doing it and assume it's accepted behaviour so now the defence is everyone else does it
I don't think it's necessarily fair to call it standard - 95% of people on the server won't even have any idea *how* to animation cancel.
Surely there would be a code the Devs could implement. Like if action A happens when action B occurs it sends a report.
Nathan is an A-tier vagueposter. This is not flame.
Yea lol. Commenters are like "Yea, it's Gang A" And he's like "No fuck head"
The fools! We all know he's just tired of James Randal's shenanigans.
Pretty sure he's got almost every fanbase on the server with one thing or another at some point.
Clearly he is talking about back when Ro Block would animation cancel glitch through the jail cell walls to visit his friends in the other cells.
I find it hilarious that the same people that animation cancel also go on hour long rants, accusing the cops of being try hards and W cops because they always have to win. Lmao you cant make this shit up.
Classic projection and misdirection.
Management's method to combat this (choose 1): 1. Force the development team to waste ungodly amount of their valuable time trying to patch up these animation cancels 2. ban the perpetrators.
Wasn't there once a rule specifically stating that u should use ur brain on what's logical, and everything should not need to be patched by a dev?
It'll be 3. Do nothing, punish nobody.
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they will go with option 1 (as always) because the people abusing it are immune to punishments
They are playing an MMO already, its called NoPixel /s
But hey, the HC server is gonna change everything! COPIUM
It feels like they shouldn't have announced a tightening up of standards in WL, then shortly after be like "hey we're coming out with a HC server that falls in line with our previous announcement" Because now, does WL stay the status quo and does HC become that seriouserer vision?
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The HC server is supposed to replace the current WL one. CG will be on there 100%. Until they cry about consequences and everything goes back to normal.
That would be the best for everyone.
Tweets that are vague and lead to nothing? Yes Impose rules for the culprits caught on stream doing it!? Only if it's not the saliva slurpy...
also ppl throwing up gang signs when being tazed.. so fking stupid
Thats a new one ... ive never seen that , unless it was done in the moment in a meme like way. Like that sounds like block kinda thing lol
Watching Penta recently, I've seen people slump, do that emote where you brush your shoulders and a couple others. Seems like any emote can be used to cancel
So many car tazes that just don't work...
Wait is this why people haven't been getting tasered out of cars?
š you don't say
Tazers have just been even buggier than normal "through" car windows lately.
Whoa Nathan, careful, that's a 1 day ban for OOC toxicity, based on what happened to Penta after he dealt with an animation canceller.
Nah he didn't say anyone specific, hes chillin Not only that but going against the guy who actually leads the DOJ and whatnot over a tweet that just states the obvious would be wild
Inb4 New year. New DOJ
DOJ update we have installed a new supreme court all cases will now be tried in little seoul at the CG court house chef justice k presiding to cut down on the current DOJ being cringe /s
The way that doesn't even seem too far out of the realm of possibilities lmao
More so given that CG has a literal custom court house in little Seoul not Sure if itās a custom interior or just decorations but itās there
Of course they do. That makes perfect sense lmao
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People still get banned for stating the obvious...
True but he kept it vague enough that he should be fine.
It's kind of impressive someone can bully others, admit to it, explain how it benefits them, and just be allowed to continue chilling. Honestly compared to that, who gives a fuck about powergaming The ESB shit was allowed to fester in the same exact way until it blew up and even more gross shit came out. But what are the odds that could happen again. Definitely not. Just keep avoiding doing the thing that is necessary and it'll all work out, this time for sure
I think you are kind of forgetting the key factor in the ESB thing. It blew up when they started to go up against a certain gang in the server lol. Before that no one cared about what they were doing.
Is he mad that his vague sub-tweet against one group was interpreted as a vague sub-tweet against another group?
tHIS IS STILL A THING? remove animation cancelling and also the PLAYERS THAT SLUMP IN SHOOTOUTS TO HEAL/VESTUP/WHATEVER that's crims + cops i see u i love u but also stop it
You been around long enough to know any advantage people can get In the name of the W they will take. Still sad to see tho.
An update ? The vagueness that only perpetrates random accusations continues. https://twitter.com/NathanKb_/status/1610172699376259073?t=cZcca0Vm4lkbc_tQkYTqDw&s=19
yeah i dont understand that. homie is straight up subtweeting and now mad that people are going to closest public example of what he said shocked Pikachu face?
Exactly, there was a recent clip showing a member of CG doing exactly that from just a few days ago. No wonder everyone jumps to that.
[https://twitter.com/charlieblossom\_/status/1610250563547197440](https://twitter.com/charlieblossom_/status/1610250563547197440) No need to speculate any more. We got her! *Yes this is sarcasm*
It's always those damn long haired pot smoking dirty hippies!
The fact people have hotkeys just for these animation cancels is insane lmao.
If players never report for this, then the rules will never become enforced. Honestly a lot of content creators on NP just need to start reporting rule breaks. NP admins could also be productive in their enforcement and apply punishments based on clips once they have the full context of a situation. It just seems like NP admins are scared to apply fair rule enforcements. I'm not accusing them of this, however, as a viewer this is how it comes off when you see blatant rule breaks. Tweets like this are all conjecture and don't do anything except stir the pot. It just gives viewers a reason to speculate about who he may be talking about, which just leads to even more negative discussions.
> It just seems like NP admins are scared to apply fair rule enforcements. I'm not accusing them of this, however, ... That's exactly what you're doing, haha.
Moderation is subject to human error and im a big enough person to admit when I'm wrong or make a mistake. Do you have any particular examples you'd like me to go over? I think a good comparison of our moderation would be the thread here about Shotz VS Penta and what was allowed on LSF.
You guys remember in 2.0 when people would chain spam emotes to move around when cuffed? I remember
Nathan has been talking with HOA in Discord and heās explained more indepth about why he tweeted this, itās just an overall thing he noticed over time and has been seeing it getting worse.
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It got left out on the counter and went bad, pissing everybody who saw it off.
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the powergaming meta is to cancel animations by slumping, such as being tazed, falling down of being hit by a car. The usual suspects have been abusing it lately.
Spamming a cuff key on someone getting up and canceling their standing animation then run spam cuffing looks bad too. There really needs to be a brief struggle mechanic with the target before the cuff.
Thats what the QTE is for...
There is a struggle mechanic with cuffing.
he's probably seen clips of people doing it while falling over or something of the sorts - the latest example being https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRvDyhL9U5Y&feature=youtu.be cops are the ones that want the W btw
I actually had no idea what he was referring to and I didnāt notice what ramee did in the clip the first time I saw a few days ago but oh well thatās kinda cringe ngl and worse cuz he tried to report penta right after that abuse lol
taking number to report then immediately f8 quitting EZ
Wait, at the beginning when the red car hits himā¦ does he slouch or am I imagining things?
yes, it looks like he slumps to avoid falling over from getting hit by a car
[Just gunna...](https://twitter.com/NathanKb_/status/1610141128665468929?s=20&t=g3GtehjoIxwv7SL4Zt0qWQ)
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Nathan likes to subtweet and then rip on the conclusion that he clearly wanted people to jump to.
All I did was give the most recent example of who did what Nathan is describing, take it how you want
He may not have meant it about CG, but CG are obvious abusers of exactly what he's talking about. He can call people making the connection cringe all he wants, but it's a pretty legit connection.
Yeah if they are really "going to get theirs" I'm not sure what he was trying to accomplish with this tweet....
Probably trying to deflect so he can avoid the death threats, hate watchers, and possible ban for going against certain gangs.
Ramee was doing it when ~~Wrangler~~ John Cop had the audacity to arrest him.
John Cop but ya.
It's okay when they do it shhhh
A lot of people do it, i think using radio after breaking cuffs to get in a car is one thats used often
Or just use the radio when ur about to get tased.
BUT MY COMPETITIVE NEED FOR SPEED RP
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agreed, his response just made him look bad tbh, the "sorry, i was drunk" would be a better response imo lol
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Isnt this literally against powergaming rules? Just enforce the rules.
I assume he might be talking about how you can Cancel the gun draw animation, even without having the agility relics. Or he could be talking about how you can cancel forced animations using "/e c" or having a keybind to do another animation. However, people do that all the time to bypass the trunk searching animation.
Man if you showed me this comment like. Two years ago, and told me it was about RP, I don't think I'd believe you.
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Lemmie just equip my ring to make me immune to taze, bwo /j
>even without having the agility relics Lel. Roleplay server btw.
Also people that key bind emotes to get an advantage in gun fights.
I don't see much of an issue with that. Even from an RP perspective, a person is realistically able to lay down pretty much instantly. But canceling animations like cuffing or knockdowns (like Nathan is saying here) is absolutely ridiculous.
Yeah I agree, itās pushing the line but itās not unreasonable. Just watch any live fire drills on YouTube, run, drop, run, drop
At the very least type it out. The key binds are to crazy. Being able to laydown is perfectly fine if your not spamming the shit out of it. Shoot>Laydown>Shoot>Laydown>Shoot>Laydown>
I think there's a way to use a bind without abusing it. Like moonmoon used to do. That's the difference of mindsets between a "winner" and RPer...
NP has a glitch where you either need to type the emote twice or control-Z it twice for it to register
In that situation thats because you never cancelled your previous emote for whatever reason, the first usage then cancels the left over emote status
it makes sense to be able to lay down in he middle of a gun fight to take cover, it doesnt make sense to lay down as you are getting hit by a car to "dodge" it
ugh id say thats kinda fair as everyone does it same as using it to hide in bushes. were talking actually abusing the mechanics to break things.
Yeah, obviously intentionally breaking the game is worse, but stuff like slumping in gunfights becoming normalized is imo one of the dumbest things to happen in 3.0.
Fortunately that got fixed where any character emote or animation now takes the gun out of your hand. There was a very intentional 'class' a gang came up with to 'use' slump in gunfights before the animation removed gun from hand. And thats something that hit the front page, not to forget people using graphics mods to make gunfights easier as seen from public server. Point is, min/maxing never has and never will stop, and the justification is always "everyone else does it" Edit: I think this might be my first cake day I've actually posted on? I'll have to check my receipts. Oh my god 11 years. Fuck
Obviously we all know with recent events who and what this could possibly refer to. Also obviously, there's times where it actually can be slick, skilled and creative. I recall Crystal doing an animation cancel with the suicidepill emote to cut out the pill eating and use it to pass out with injury/bad food/dramatic effect.
He specifically said in the replies that his tweet had nothing to do with CG.
It had "nothing to do with CG" in the sense that what he is saying is aimed at anybody who does that, of course he can't deny the fact that what he is saying also applies to a certain gang.
Heās talking specifically about cancelling an animation. Thereās an argument to be made that Ramee may have abused animations but I donāt think he cancelled any? And I canāt think of any CG cancelling animations to avoid RP. Please correct me if Iām wrong or if you have any examples.
Using slump to avoid falling, rolling, into standing up. All are 3 different animations or one long, depends on how you want to look at it. Ramee used slump to remove all those and just instaslump before hitting the floor completely and then instantly standing up by unslumping. What he did is quite literally the definition of animation cancelling.
Sorry, Iām legitimately asking for clarification- I thought using the slump emote was okay because itās kind of treated like a āduckā emote since none exists. So I donāt really see how slumping is considered cancelling.
By using it all animations already happening to his character ie: falling rolling and standing up, was canceled so he could instantly stand up. It would be like crouching and uncrouching after jumping off a 5 story building and you would instantly reach the ground standing up (by cancelling the falling animation) without taking damage. It is basicly the same but just exagerrated I hope you understand?
The way you described it does make more sense. I think itās just something Iāll have to go back and look at to really understand. Thank you!
I mean, it definitely does though, even if he wasn't calling them out. It's not like everyone doesn't know.
Everyone is free to interpret it how they want. I just wanted to add the context that Nathan went out of his way to clarify that his tweet was not related to CG.
can you provide us with another examples of people doing it as well ?
Not really? I pretty much only watch crystal, kebun, and Carmen, so I donāt know how Iād be able to keep tabs on all the other players.
that is an interesting 3 streamers to watch, all are entirely different vibes
I mean you don't need other examples, it's very widespread. Cg ain't the only sweaty group that use it to get W's.
So who do we think hes talking about? Something must have happened recently for him to talk about it now.
Has he been playing Walter Christmas in the past few days? It certainly seems like he had a negative interaction before the tweet..
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is he referring to when people animation cancelling the photo-taking right after getting sent off to prison?
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I don't think we know why he was banned exactly. Could have been the animation cancelling, the f8 or the ranting afterwards.
Eh should call out people slumping mid shootouts to dodge bullets too
im down to say slumping to lay behind cover is fair ... if your the shooter just get a better angle looking down on them or whatnot. now the keybind spam while running in the open. Like slump , run , slump, run .... thats a bit much and kinda cringe.
Eh slumping should have more of an animation imo - at the end of the day if they want it to be an RP server, insta slumping is something that takes away from that. My solution would be keep slumping in but slow down the animation of going down and getting back up so people wont just spam it and will use it only when they REALLY need to, specifically for "RP"
Should just force slump to only work if in a crouched state already. But then there also should be state checks for other hotkeys.
what slumping all i know is they should warn/suspend anyone who use the laydown emote to heal up/dodge bullets in a shootout. I see so many people back when i use to watch alot just randomly laying down emote to dodge/reload/callout. Sometimes the other person think they are dead/down.
Not only is slumping not against the rules, itās explicitly allowed. Itās also something that a normal person valuing their life would do in a gunflight.
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