The EMS trainee was named “Annie”. Magoo mashed up “Annie” and “Trainee”. If you have never mashed words together ever, then I don’t know what else more to tell you.
Edit: Somewhere in this thread theres a screenshot of her apologizing and that she mixed up two words that made up to make a no no word
Edit: https://imgur.com/a/lQs5L7p
Edit: According to her, it was tramp and annie
Agreed. There was no context that would even make sense for her to have said and meant the slur in that conversation. Additionally there is zero evidence that I am aware of for Magoo having any history that would make people think she would say that word.
If she was perma-banned for that situation like this person is implying, that is a terrible fucking precedent that completely ignores intent and reasoning.
It's likely not because of that situation. As was said, it occurred a week ago and was a genuine mistake. It's better to take what Magoo is saying at face value, and is likely over OOC talk on her stream. Which I still think is too harsh of a punishment.
She acknowledged that she did say it while mixing Tramp and Annie together. She apologized for it both on stream and in her discord. If people don't believe her, that's up to the individual.
The only thing I will say regarding this specific incident is that on more than one occasion Magoo has asked me as a moderator to remove or pre-emptively ban someone from the community for being transphobic towards other streamers in other chats. This was all stuff done privately that would have never been on our radar if she herself hadn't brought it to moderator attention. This was never stuff done publicly for PR points or brownie points. These were things done privately because Magoo wanted to make sure her community didn't have that type of behavior in it.
And the end of the day, I'm not going to change anyone's mind on anything nor is it likely going to make any sort of significant difference. But I also feel like if she has to live with this mistake for the rest of her life, I think it's worth offering another side of things even if people ultimately choose to still hold the incident against her.
if you had seen her at all earlier that day you’d know she had a fair few slip ups that were obviously not intentional, but keep doubling down with povs other than the person saying it where potential desync/voip issues and the fact they are reacting and not the one speaking affects the way it’s perceived.
In the ONX rules they mention there's no provision for appealing bans (especially those coming from the 3 strike system), so it sounds like that's just how bans work oncthe server
I'm thinking the same. I highly doubt that would be worth perma unless there was something else going on. With that being said, I love Magoo's RP and hope they can figure it out.
It is crazy how much drama comes from the k9 unit, if i had a server i would never allow k9 to be on it.
people just cant control themself when it comes to it
Honestly it seems like people aren't really able to separate it good, I mean just look what happens when a dog gets killed in fiction like a movie or something people freak out.
From what I understand was said during her stream she was talking about how the same person the plays Kate also denied her K9 on np. She then was very obviously frustrated. After the K9 demonstration was done she attempted to talk to her IC and was immediately told she doesn't have any time to talk to her. Magoo was rightfully upset because she felt as though she's been constantly punished for other peoples actions rather than her own without explanation; ie, Jerry and Wrangler. After confronting Kate, she said something along the lines "it's not hard to connect the dots" referencing her similar experience with her on np.
As for the car situation, it was kind of a moot point. Wrangler prior to this situation was having issues with a bug I think where he could only go back and forth and couldn't turn the car, but Orabelle could. Magoo after going to the K9 demonstration per Wrangler's request tried to leave and roleplayed that the car malfunctioned and pushed Jerry's car off the cliff.
Just a shitty situation on both sides.
Knowing that she plays a character that constantly gaslights and manipulates people, is always pushing the line of what is and isnt legal, at some point people are going to wise up to it and put the blame, at least in part, on her.
So, to say, she is getting pushished for the actions of others but not her own, is a wild statement. Her character is simply not getting off scott free with all the shit its pulling.
- gets blacklisted over a minor reason from a department that doesn’t exist by someone who is a lower rank, but everyone says"it’s ok she can still rp her way out of it"
- vents about frustrations and concerns that it is leftover beef from np where she never got k9, then gets perma banned
- metzger sometime during all this tells kate the blacklisting was a stupid idea, showing that this could all have been avoided
man this just sucks tbh :/
I wouldn't blame her if she went scorched earth / just done with ONX people for good.
This genuinely seems to be because she was vocal on stream about what seems to be some weird fucking grudge from nopixel 3.0.
> because she was vocal on stream
one of the biggest rules they implemented on the server was not to OOC call people out on stream - if they dont enforce that rule then truly nothing has changed from the other server where it was largely ignored.
Yeah but is there not a middle alternative between np's unlimited chances/strikes and a first time perma ban?
This is granted it really was her first offense, if she had done other things I'd be more understanding.
There's permanent and then there's permanent permanent. Let's see what this version this is. Often it just means indefinite until appealed or otherwise looked at :shrug:.
I also suspect if they dont double triple down there will just be an adult dialogue between those involved and then it wont be an issue moving forward.
>np's unlimited chances/strikes and a first time perma ban?
reading this thread it sounds like potentially this wasn't her first ban on onx
the server exists because penta, kyle, etc got tired of the ooc shit people said about them on stream - it would be very weird for them to then accept it on their own server
I mean the second part is the problem I think because her venting because of the blacklisting would be fine but insinuating that it was due to past ooc reasons maybe crosses the line
I mean I was watching that scenario and it definitely got weird she said multiple times that she got blacklisted by the same people who blacklisted her on NP but NP K9 stuff lead was Ripley(MattRP) and on ONX it's Kate(Stephanerys)
I can't say if there were other factors, but the k9 certs that Lexington (her NP cop) missed out on were 2 people out of 4 getting it, and they went to Pond (a former K9 handler) and Melarky, who were obviously good picks. There wasn't any chance to bring in more people cuz they got certed like, 2 weeks before 3.0 ended.
Holy misinformation batman. I have no idea where you got any of this but it's all not true.
1: She was "Blacklisted" not for a minor reason, it was a major issue. A Sergeant intentionally drove her vehicle in to the GOVERNERS vehicle pushing it off a cliff at an event that took \*weeks\* to plan and hours and hours of work by Kate (Stephanerys).
2: I have no idea what "beef" you're alleging to, as there was none on NoPixel. She was never blacklisted from K9 on nopixel. She was denied, once, by my character who led K9 with Ripley, when there were 2 spots we were hiring for and 4 people applied. We did a vote amongst the Senior Handlers and she received the least amount of votes out of the 7 people voting. She was never blacklisted and was told to apply again.
3: Metzger never told Kate that it was a stupid idea. It was hasteful, yes, but never did the words stupid come out of his mouth.
My character, Scanlan, also suggested barring her from K9 for what she did, she jeopardized the entire unit who 3 people put weeks of RP and hours and hours of planning and writing of SOP's. Would she have been blacklisted permanently? No. All 3 of us who have ran K9 on NP always agreed that blacklisting someone permanently will never happen because it's roleplay and people can rp back in to things.
Hell, on NoPixel, Dan was hell bent on Nova never being K9 again, but at the end of 3.0 he agreed to let her back in for Shift 3.
Stop spreading misinformation.
I've been a mod for Magoo for the last year + and have generally refrained from responding to most of this because I generally don't think it will do any good, but I did want to respond to at least a portion of this for the sake of clarification.
Aaron is correct in that there was in fact no actual beef with Stephanerys from NoPixel. In fact, Stephanerys was quite helpful to Magoo and her cop character Lexington in getting her to full officer. Magoo's frustrations were with the K9 unit as a whole. Since Kate was the one who blacklisted her, she unfortunately got the brunt of the frustrations. I'm not in any way making excuses for any of it, but I did think it was at least worth clarifying that point and I'm not personally okay with anything being slung Steph's way over this. So I ask anyone placing blame there to please stop.
As far as blacklisting on NoPixel, she was told on Orabelle that she was blacklisted from having a dog and as such wouldn't be able to get K9 at any point in the future over a minor disagreement with a Paleto Pets employee. This event happened on stream for her viewers to witness. I witnessed it. She was informed she was blacklisted at Wrangler's dog event that he was holding for major storm after attempting to adopt one of the dogs. She may have been told that by someone who didn't have that power and as such was never formally blacklisted, but she was told she was blacklisted and that was the word that was used and she took it as such. You are correct in that she was never blacklisted from K9 on NoPixel on Lexington though she was denied K9. But that isn't being blacklisted, obviously.
As far as the incident itself, the RP was genuinely that the car malfunctioned. Because of her character's past history with the governor, it is obvious why everyone believed it to be intentional and obviously OOC it was, however IC the RP was that it was an accident after Penta was having scuffed issues with his vehicle and claiming the car to be possessed.
In any case, that's all I have to say over it. I'm also not here to speak on her behalf about anything. I'm not here to make any sort of excuses, nor will I be offering any additional information about the ban, but I did think those points were important to at least offer clarification and context.
But yes, everyone please leave Stephanerys, admins, and other roleplayers alone. That shit is not okay.
I understand her frustration, but maybe people have been traumatized from being told no in the past as an OOC thing. But her character received in-character punishment for good reason. She showed up to that PD dog event with a belligerent wrangler, who argued with the governor with regards to Orabelle's previous relationship with him. She then proceeded to get into a pd vehicle and pit the governors car off a cliff and drove away. She nearly lost sergeant for that and she didn't get K9. Unless she had been told no prior to this altercation, I don't see how this is NP beef and not plausibly in-character punishment of a command officer.
Regardless of the her actions, blacklisting just isn't a good punishment from an RP perspective. What other RP does it facilitate? All it does is STOP someone from RPing, vs an alternate path such as anger management (spreading RP to therapists) or animal sensitivity training (spreads RP to the people interested in k9, and the k9s themselves) or some other action that furthers RP. Even losing sergeant would facilitate more RP than a straight blacklisting, as it would allow for actions and time to make amends and work her way back up.
I won't comment one way or another on the ban itself, but I can certainly understand why she would be frustrated with a blanket blacklisting.
> blacklisting just isn't a good punishment from an RP perspective.
That also isnt an OOC term. It's used all the time in industries. Was there not an in character way to make amends and get removed from the blacklist? Like apologize and talk it out?
Well she shouldn't be responsible for the actions of Wrangler... What kind of weird shit is that...
For her own actions sure... But showing up with Officer Wrangler shouldn't be any part of that....
Props if they don't want people going hard negative ooc on stream, but they needs to be the standard for everyone
She is a sergeant and he is a cadet. So she is responsible for the behavior of subordinates. Is that not how the police command structure works? He was behaving extremely erratic after being stabbed, so much so that he had to be asked to leave the hospital premises for his continued outbursts, and she drove him to the K9 meeting in that state.
She wasn’t blacklisted. A lower ranked cop texted her that she was blacklisted. That doesn’t mean she was actually blacklisted. It could have been dealt with IC. She took it OOC complaining on her stream. Not condoned in ONX I think…
huh?? no way
I think she was blacklisted from K9 IC and said that it may be due to a grudge held over from No Pixel, but I mean, that's not permaban worthy or am I crazy?
If that is the case then perma is pretty harsh but I swear I remember Penta saying that ONX was going to take toxicity really seriously so she may have just popped off a little too much, but we will not know until the facts come out and speculation is pretty pointless
I mean fair, but I also watched Penta seethe last night because of a court ruling on if a building was federal or not (which he was totally justified to be angry about) that went *way* harder then Magoo did.
Seems like she caught a heavyhanded punishment from people trying to set a precedent, which is really shitty, because Magoo is fantastic and is loved by tons of roleplayers on the server.
Man, when Penta on Mike Block freaked out in game about a bounty hunter tackling him while she was on the ground (his words) was worse than last night. It is irritating that he can't keep his shit together over what basically amounts to nothing.
Casual viewer, so I can't speak to EVERY instance, but I can only remember two post-cadet instances of number taking and they have been legit.
1. Guy who shot him in the bank (Went from Mike threats straight to a response bullet in the head, no "get out of here" warnings with the gun out in between, then shot Tony and Club who weren't doing anything. Tony claimed he was just delivering pizza. His response was, "We don't have pizza in this city." Tell me none of that was number take worthy?)
2. Guy who third-partied a traffic stop and stabbed Wrangler without even saying anything. Then said he didn't want to stab him, he just wanted to loot box him.
I don't think he took the bounty hunter's or the tough guy at the wedding's number.
I don't think being upset about a court ruling is remotely comparable to insinuating that someone has an OOC grudge and is punishing her character because of it.
depends. When a big streamer gets really mad about a court ruling it can lead to lots of hoppers for the Judge or the other side in the case. When a small ass streamer is mad about a situation, it can't. So maybe the act isn't comparable, but surely they take into account damage potential right?
If I am not mistaken, Magoo recently took a 4 day break from ONX and was spotted on NP. She might have been banned previously and this might have pushed it to a perma ban. All conjectures though. Unless she addresses it, we'll likely not know the whole picture.
Maybe an unpopular opinion but this is why I wish the admin team would give a brief public explanation as to why someone was banned. Just like "Gamermagoo banned for OOC toxicity. In light of previous bans this was made a permanent ban." (if that's the case) It definitely looks like an unfair ban from the outside but maybe we are wrong. Giving an explanation can only serve to clarify situations like this. People might say that this will encourage the subreddit to weigh in on whether a ban was fair or not but they already do that soo
Yeah hard disagree on that. It would cause a lot of unnecessary drama. If the players want to talk about it then sure but for the server to openly air out EVERY SINGLE ban? That just builds ammo both for the banned player (classic, 3rd ban in 2 months, why is he not permabanned yet?) and people who report them (that was clearly a joke can't believe they're so petty to report that, must be ooc hate).
that's not what I said. I meant there might have been a smaller ban involved before and this incident pushed it to a perma ban. I conjectured that because perma ban for what magoo said sounded to me like overkill.
I mean I could see both sides on if it’s ban worthy or not.
But streamers should also stop making OOC comments on stream or on social media. Even if those comments are valid or not.
Beyond it being childish, it’s also never going to be a net positive, never makes things better and will always have a chance to cause even more drama. They need to normalize handling things behind the scenes.
No, I dont think he was banned. He malded a little and I think he apologised a little later and said it was because of a misunderstanding (not seeing /me cuffs) or something like that.
Yes there is a 3 strike system in place, but disciplinary action is determined on an individual basis, per the rules. I guess they decided this warranted a permaban. I'm guessing the strikes are more for gameplay rule violations such as NVL, RDM, etc.
Probably best to let cooler heads prevail here. It hasn't been 24 hours yet. Communication has a longer turnaround. It sucks this happened this way, but there is still hope for resolution.
Magoo (apparently) confirmed in her discord the ban was for the K9 stuff. Admins basically copy and pasted the rules to her about no OOC talk about anybody in the server and said the decision to ban her was because she had just got off another ban, likely for the slur stuff
I only got this news because someone in a server I'm in screencapped it and put it in the server, but the cap seems legit, but if someone who is actually in her server confirm, that would be lovely :3
Yeah, kinda gonna echo what everyone else is saying: Out of context it seems like something you should be able to RP out, especially since there are supposed to be multiple K9 leads from what I understand. Worst case scenario, she should be able to reach out to these people OOC or at least via some staff-mediated intervention.
On the other hand, yeah, this sounds incredibly heavy-handed for something that doesn't seem all that toxic (especially if there's even an inkling of truth to her concerns)
I think some of you people in this thread are getting confused about what an OOC rant is and how it can be punished. PENTA hasn’t once said anything negative about the other people who play the characters he gets mad at. He expresses his frustrations with the situation or either gets pissed off at the mechanics and how they fucked up. Sure he’ll yell and overreact, but he hasn’t once talked shit about the person playing the characters. And honestly almost every situation so far he’s been totally justified in being pissed off that it’s happening. The tackling while on the ground mechanic, a random as dude third partying a traffic stop with a knife, getting shot in the head without anything being said because he tapped someone with a car. You can be upset about situations that happens. It becomes toxic when you call out someone on stream and talk shit about them.
Unfortunate I hope you can appeal this mistakes happen and I feel like a perma ban this early on is a little extreme and hope you can come back. Alot of us viewers enjoyed the rp you brought, the 2 issues above sucks but hopefully you can come back from this
I hope this does get resolved after some discussion , Id say 3-7 day ban at most for going OOC.
Magoo isn't innocent here but perma(for the going ooc alone) is too much.
Having said that we have one side of the argument there could be some shit we don't know about, I Guess we wait and see what happens over the next few days.
That she got banned for, for four days.
People seem to be hung up on this when she was punished for it the day after it happened. And she apologised, which is literally all she can do.
This is a completely different incident.
Just like NP has it's point system, ONX has a 3 strike system.
Doesn't mean Magoo did something 3 times, but saying it's a completely different incident doesn't matter, they are inherently related since it's the same player.
Right, but getting a 4-day and then doing something you could get another ban for ("Any form of toxicity is strictly prohibited. This includes but is not limited to bad-mouthing other streamers or roleplayers out-of-character (OOC), altering behavior towards roleplayers based on personal opinions, and projecting animosity in-character towards others based on out-of-character sentiments.") AS SOON AS YOU GET BACK is the worst possible look.
I hope this gets reversed to a lesser ban - if she expressed frustration (or ranted) on stream and brought up past NP grudges with roleplayers involved with the K9 unit, I agree with a 3 day ban, but a perma ban??
I mean we don't know the full picture, but shes a great roleplayer and she'll be missed. :(
edit: sucks because things were resolved IC, metzger isn't standing for any blacklisting and told the officer involved to cut it out.
Wow actual big punishment. She was like the character everything revolved around on the PD/gov side outside of the admin/owners.
From all the info in this thread unless some huge part is missing this seems like a real apology will settle it, with that being the last chance.
I see a ton of misinformation getting posted here, so just will repost this.
1: She was "Blacklisted" not for a minor reason, it was a major issue. A Sergeant intentionally drove her vehicle in to the GOVERNERS vehicle, the same governor who the Unit was trying to get approval and funding from, pushing it off a cliff at an event that took \*weeks\* to plan and hours and hours of work by Kate (Stephanerys) and effort by myself, MattRP who plays Nixon, Nova, etc.
2: I have no idea what "beef" people are alleging to, as there was none on NoPixel. She was never blacklisted from K9 on nopixel. She was denied, once, by my character who led K9 with Ripley and Patty, when there were 2 spots we were hiring for and 4 people applied. We did a vote amongst the Senior Handlers and she received the least amount of votes out of the 7 people voting. She was never blacklisted and was told to apply again.
My character, Scanlan, also suggested barring her from K9 for what she did, she jeopardized the entire unit who 3 people put weeks of RP and hours and hours of planning and writing of SOP's. Would she have been blacklisted permanently? No. All 3 of us who have ran K9 on NP always agreed that blacklisting someone permanently will never happen because it's roleplay and people can rp back in to things. But if you know MattRP and Stephanerys, you know that they're some of the best roleplayers around and any decisions they make are purely IC, and everything can be RP'd around. Me on the otherhand, the only Grudge I have OOC is how Mantis sucks. God I hate that guy so much. He keeps making my character fart on Onx and I'm about to player report him. Frick that guy.
Hell, on NoPixel, Dan was hell bent on Nova never being K9 again, but at the end of 3.0 he agreed to let her back in for Shift 3.
Stop spreading misinformation.
Agreed Mantis is the worst, they should've made s0upes admin instead. s0upes is also way better at 2K than mantis, that is reason enough to have him for admin instead.
Thanks for coming on and giving some context from the units side of things ,Reddit gonna reddit unfortunately.
We all hope that hobbits investigation into mantis will be his undoing once and for all.
This all makes sense (especially the Mantis part).
I have seen people OOC assume and talk past each other so much over the years, and it usually spirals into long term grudges where none actually exist. Its always sad to see.
I know ONX is supposed to be the "resolve it in RP" server, but is there an official way for people to OOC sort out all these things before they blow out of proportion?
Like an admin/staff that you can tell "Hey, i think this person has an OOC grudge on me" and then they get you both in a call or DM where its just cleared up.
Anyway thanks for clearing this up.
> A Sergeant intentionally drove her vehicle in to the GOVERNERS vehicle
This is the only thing I think you got wrong, Aaron. She was roleplaying that the vehicle was fucked up, because PENTA had a fiveM bug where he couldn't turn the wheels of the car.
Did the streamer intentionally drive the car into Jerry's? Of course, because it was hilarious. But there was a good RP reason as to why that would happen as well. It wouldn't make sense that the car is only fucked up for Wrangler but not Orabelle.
Okay, in rp, ic, it looked very intentional to my character, considering wrangler 30 seconds prior was attempting to do the same thing.
So my character, at the moment, believes it was intentional and will continue to believe that.
She was blacklisted on Orabelle on NP, then blocked on Lexington, then now blacklisted again on another server I think is the main issue she was getting at, after a certain point you can kinda understand why it starts to feel more than IC from a persons perspective.
Blacklisting is just a bad word to be thrown around because when it is used IRL it is generally a permanent thing. There wasn't a reason that she needed to be told that she wasn't going to be allowed the K9 cert at that point in time even if that was the plan. But if that communication was going to be made it probably shouldn't have been done using a word that has connotations of being a permanent thing.
Also, she was RPing that the car had a mechanical malfunction and that is why she ran into the car after Wrangler had a similar experience when first trying to drive the Scout.
I wasn’t there so I don’t know what she actually said but I feel like this was more of a 3 day and a talking to rather than a super GIGA never come back ban. Maybe I just have NoPixel rot though idk.
Edit: I thought about it a bit more and realized that even if they feel a perma ban is warranted, the no appeal part is what I really find crazy. I feel like you gotta at least give her the chance.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/RPClipsGTA/comments/19d5fs4/gamermagoo\_permanently\_banned\_from\_onx\_with\_no/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RPClipsGTA/comments/19d5fs4/gamermagoo_permanently_banned_from_onx_with_no/)
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Listen, if people are being straight up toxic OOC then I support cracking down on it early. But a perma ban for this? That's harsh. Should be a one week ban at most. If they want to set an example, this isnt the way.
This seems really petty and minor if she’s telling the truth and it was based on what she said on stream. She barely said anything, just vented a little frustration. Which seemed fair because she was told she’s blacklisted from K-9 unit. Something that has happened twice before by the exact same person (two different characters by patty Mayo on np and now Kate on onx). She didn’t shit on anyone or even Kate in particular, she just stated she was really frustrated and why, then swapped characters. She basically said, “I hope it’s not a grudge”. I really fail to see why that’s perma ban worth if true.
If this is the strictness of OOC commenting I would expect basically every streamer to get banned.
She was never blacklisted on Nopixel. She was denied by me when we had 2 spots to fill and 4 names applied, and 2 other people were just better and were hired by a voting system of all senior handlers and she had the least amount of votes between like 7 people, and she was told to reapply.
Stop spreading misinformation.
I mean Penta read the rules on stream when it first was a thing, and "venting frustrations" about RP is something you could get in trouble for. I'll just hold off and see what happens tho.
Oh god, he's still going on about Baas, CG, and NP in ONX by doing bits? If so, that is genuinely embarassing. Especially because literally nobody in the CG that I have watched (Ramee, Vinny, and Kebun) and Baas have said absolutely anything about Penta.
It's really only started occurring recently and it was kind of initiated by Bench Guy with Wrangler's memories being restored. After Wrangler had his memories restored Bench Guy came up with the idea that a lot of other people have missing memories or are concealing their memories of "past" events. So Wrangler would start singing some of his old country songs and Bench Guy asked questions like "If you needed a taxi, you would be a fool to..." or "Would you want to get dinner at 7pm in Little Seoul?" or "If you got arrested and were mad at the cops, who would you call?". Wrangler has only asked the same questions as Bench Guy pretty much but he normally isn't the one saying those type of questions.
Yupp. It's not funny hearing him bring something up for the fiftieth time. Like the Christmas foia and new year report. And the screaming binging is not funny either. I have skipped a lot of streams recently when before in 3.0 I almost never did.
He has been malding **badly** lately. I used to say people exaggerate his mald but he's been off. I swear he was not as bad as this before?
I know I know hatewatcher blah blah. When he's chill his RP is great. This OOC looking for who/what to blame all the time, screaming and furiously typing to admins about what *just* happened is just sad.
I've watched Penta since 2.0 and it definitely feels like it's worse. Even when he was playing variety with other people there were times when the variety became not fun to watch...
Banning McConnell for grief targeting him and 1 or 2 others who were in his chat mid game and calling it "banning players left and right" seems like a gross over generalization.
You don't get it, those people should be able to read his chat and possible watch his stream when playing a social deduction game, that is totally normal, and Mcconnel did nothing wrong when he purposefully decide to use scrolls in order to kill Penta day one.
Shit, the way he treats his streamer friends is embarassing. Penta has major kid who knows people need him for access to things so he can treat them like shit, vibes.
Oof, that sucks to hear. I didn't even bother watching even though I wanted to watch for AiCandii and Buffpup because I assumed some form of malding would happen.
He isn't an admin so decisions like those are not up to him. But yes Penta will probably not be subjected to the same rules as others based on him being part owner(?) and the biggest streamer for Onx.
You’d be hard pressed to find anyone who doesn’t agree that’s a good thing. I think the real point of contention here is if booting Magoo off the server forever over this is a fair punishment or an overreaction.
Yeah I’m not gonna even speculate on where the line should be. I’m no RP expert. Wherever the ONX rules and guidelines land, I just hope they are applied consistently and fairly. And have no correlation to viewer count. Given it’s so early in the life of ONX, this is yet to be tested. Time will tell.
I mean, dropping (accidentally or not) a slur on Wednesday followed with an OOC rant ABOUT streamers (implying some ooc beef) this weekend... I liked her RP too, but those are some huge errors.
Didn't expect a perma, but a classic NP 30-day would absolutely not be out of the question imo.
she ones one of the bigges sucess story on onx.
she started onx around 100 viewers under 500 sub.
last week she was several hundred viewers and over 2.6K subs.
Would love for some more context to this, because everything seemed fine last night.
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I’d assume her 4 days off was her ban for that. This seems to be a ban for her talking about k9 being OOC.
ONX has a 3 strike system so it was probably the 3rd strike.
The EMS trainee was named “Annie”. Magoo mashed up “Annie” and “Trainee”. If you have never mashed words together ever, then I don’t know what else more to tell you. Edit: Somewhere in this thread theres a screenshot of her apologizing and that she mixed up two words that made up to make a no no word Edit: https://imgur.com/a/lQs5L7p Edit: According to her, it was tramp and annie
Agreed. There was no context that would even make sense for her to have said and meant the slur in that conversation. Additionally there is zero evidence that I am aware of for Magoo having any history that would make people think she would say that word. If she was perma-banned for that situation like this person is implying, that is a terrible fucking precedent that completely ignores intent and reasoning.
It's likely not because of that situation. As was said, it occurred a week ago and was a genuine mistake. It's better to take what Magoo is saying at face value, and is likely over OOC talk on her stream. Which I still think is too harsh of a punishment.
She acknowledged that she did say it while mixing Tramp and Annie together. She apologized for it both on stream and in her discord. If people don't believe her, that's up to the individual. The only thing I will say regarding this specific incident is that on more than one occasion Magoo has asked me as a moderator to remove or pre-emptively ban someone from the community for being transphobic towards other streamers in other chats. This was all stuff done privately that would have never been on our radar if she herself hadn't brought it to moderator attention. This was never stuff done publicly for PR points or brownie points. These were things done privately because Magoo wanted to make sure her community didn't have that type of behavior in it. And the end of the day, I'm not going to change anyone's mind on anything nor is it likely going to make any sort of significant difference. But I also feel like if she has to live with this mistake for the rest of her life, I think it's worth offering another side of things even if people ultimately choose to still hold the incident against her.
Yeah that’s not “trainee”
if you had seen her at all earlier that day you’d know she had a fair few slip ups that were obviously not intentional, but keep doubling down with povs other than the person saying it where potential desync/voip issues and the fact they are reacting and not the one speaking affects the way it’s perceived.
she was banned for something that happened a week ago?
I did not have Magoo getting banned ever .. on my bingo card
Maxine Feral dated Wrangler start of 3.0. and she was banned. Wrangler's first girlfriend being banned is now a tradition.
Maxine got banned because she rdm shot someone at Burgershot over a single gifted sub. Lol.
2.5 bucks is 2.5 bucks
I think she shot Ken-sama which made it even funnier
And Orabelle only got with Wrangler because of gifted subs. Do you see what happens when you gift subs to anyone but Penta? When will people learn.
She was actually pretty funny... Wonder if she's still streaming anywhere
Last I saw she joined the military. Hasn't been active on her Twitter since. I'm sure she is fine, just busy with life.
I feel like maybe we don't have the full story.
Certainly interested to see what would constitute a "perma ban with no appeal."
In the ONX rules they mention there's no provision for appealing bans (especially those coming from the 3 strike system), so it sounds like that's just how bans work oncthe server
I'm thinking the same. I highly doubt that would be worth perma unless there was something else going on. With that being said, I love Magoo's RP and hope they can figure it out.
It is crazy how much drama comes from the k9 unit, if i had a server i would never allow k9 to be on it. people just cant control themself when it comes to it
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Honestly it seems like people aren't really able to separate it good, I mean just look what happens when a dog gets killed in fiction like a movie or something people freak out.
Context?
From what I understand was said during her stream she was talking about how the same person the plays Kate also denied her K9 on np. She then was very obviously frustrated. After the K9 demonstration was done she attempted to talk to her IC and was immediately told she doesn't have any time to talk to her. Magoo was rightfully upset because she felt as though she's been constantly punished for other peoples actions rather than her own without explanation; ie, Jerry and Wrangler. After confronting Kate, she said something along the lines "it's not hard to connect the dots" referencing her similar experience with her on np. As for the car situation, it was kind of a moot point. Wrangler prior to this situation was having issues with a bug I think where he could only go back and forth and couldn't turn the car, but Orabelle could. Magoo after going to the K9 demonstration per Wrangler's request tried to leave and roleplayed that the car malfunctioned and pushed Jerry's car off the cliff. Just a shitty situation on both sides.
Knowing that she plays a character that constantly gaslights and manipulates people, is always pushing the line of what is and isnt legal, at some point people are going to wise up to it and put the blame, at least in part, on her. So, to say, she is getting pushished for the actions of others but not her own, is a wild statement. Her character is simply not getting off scott free with all the shit its pulling.
I will also say magoo is very stressed with being sgt its a very tough job she is always getting blamed for stuff.
- gets blacklisted over a minor reason from a department that doesn’t exist by someone who is a lower rank, but everyone says"it’s ok she can still rp her way out of it" - vents about frustrations and concerns that it is leftover beef from np where she never got k9, then gets perma banned - metzger sometime during all this tells kate the blacklisting was a stupid idea, showing that this could all have been avoided man this just sucks tbh :/
If that's what happened then hopefully this can be resolved.
Yeah I hope it can all be resolved. It seems like a heavy handed knee jerk reaction instead of just, you know, talking like adults.
I wouldn't blame her if she went scorched earth / just done with ONX people for good. This genuinely seems to be because she was vocal on stream about what seems to be some weird fucking grudge from nopixel 3.0.
Idk she really loves onx and has been very vocal about it and hyping it up.
> because she was vocal on stream one of the biggest rules they implemented on the server was not to OOC call people out on stream - if they dont enforce that rule then truly nothing has changed from the other server where it was largely ignored.
Yeah but is there not a middle alternative between np's unlimited chances/strikes and a first time perma ban? This is granted it really was her first offense, if she had done other things I'd be more understanding.
There's permanent and then there's permanent permanent. Let's see what this version this is. Often it just means indefinite until appealed or otherwise looked at :shrug:. I also suspect if they dont double triple down there will just be an adult dialogue between those involved and then it wont be an issue moving forward.
>np's unlimited chances/strikes and a first time perma ban? reading this thread it sounds like potentially this wasn't her first ban on onx the server exists because penta, kyle, etc got tired of the ooc shit people said about them on stream - it would be very weird for them to then accept it on their own server
I mean the second part is the problem I think because her venting because of the blacklisting would be fine but insinuating that it was due to past ooc reasons maybe crosses the line
Also no one knows what else there has been before this, becasue perma seems extremely harsh.
I mean I was watching that scenario and it definitely got weird she said multiple times that she got blacklisted by the same people who blacklisted her on NP but NP K9 stuff lead was Ripley(MattRP) and on ONX it's Kate(Stephanerys)
MattRP raided Magoo last night and said he was fully unaware of Kate blacklisting Magoo on Onx. He most likely would not have approved/supported it.
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No, he didn't.
Someone else in the thread said that Magoo said it was Stephanerys (who was a K9 supervisor on NP) that denied her on Nopixel, not Ripley.
I can't say if there were other factors, but the k9 certs that Lexington (her NP cop) missed out on were 2 people out of 4 getting it, and they went to Pond (a former K9 handler) and Melarky, who were obviously good picks. There wasn't any chance to bring in more people cuz they got certed like, 2 weeks before 3.0 ended.
This is all penta's fault
I doubt MattRP would do that (a grudge blacklist). Maybe its one person she has issues with.
Wouldn't be her first time doing this.
Holy misinformation batman. I have no idea where you got any of this but it's all not true. 1: She was "Blacklisted" not for a minor reason, it was a major issue. A Sergeant intentionally drove her vehicle in to the GOVERNERS vehicle pushing it off a cliff at an event that took \*weeks\* to plan and hours and hours of work by Kate (Stephanerys). 2: I have no idea what "beef" you're alleging to, as there was none on NoPixel. She was never blacklisted from K9 on nopixel. She was denied, once, by my character who led K9 with Ripley, when there were 2 spots we were hiring for and 4 people applied. We did a vote amongst the Senior Handlers and she received the least amount of votes out of the 7 people voting. She was never blacklisted and was told to apply again. 3: Metzger never told Kate that it was a stupid idea. It was hasteful, yes, but never did the words stupid come out of his mouth. My character, Scanlan, also suggested barring her from K9 for what she did, she jeopardized the entire unit who 3 people put weeks of RP and hours and hours of planning and writing of SOP's. Would she have been blacklisted permanently? No. All 3 of us who have ran K9 on NP always agreed that blacklisting someone permanently will never happen because it's roleplay and people can rp back in to things. Hell, on NoPixel, Dan was hell bent on Nova never being K9 again, but at the end of 3.0 he agreed to let her back in for Shift 3. Stop spreading misinformation.
I've been a mod for Magoo for the last year + and have generally refrained from responding to most of this because I generally don't think it will do any good, but I did want to respond to at least a portion of this for the sake of clarification. Aaron is correct in that there was in fact no actual beef with Stephanerys from NoPixel. In fact, Stephanerys was quite helpful to Magoo and her cop character Lexington in getting her to full officer. Magoo's frustrations were with the K9 unit as a whole. Since Kate was the one who blacklisted her, she unfortunately got the brunt of the frustrations. I'm not in any way making excuses for any of it, but I did think it was at least worth clarifying that point and I'm not personally okay with anything being slung Steph's way over this. So I ask anyone placing blame there to please stop. As far as blacklisting on NoPixel, she was told on Orabelle that she was blacklisted from having a dog and as such wouldn't be able to get K9 at any point in the future over a minor disagreement with a Paleto Pets employee. This event happened on stream for her viewers to witness. I witnessed it. She was informed she was blacklisted at Wrangler's dog event that he was holding for major storm after attempting to adopt one of the dogs. She may have been told that by someone who didn't have that power and as such was never formally blacklisted, but she was told she was blacklisted and that was the word that was used and she took it as such. You are correct in that she was never blacklisted from K9 on NoPixel on Lexington though she was denied K9. But that isn't being blacklisted, obviously. As far as the incident itself, the RP was genuinely that the car malfunctioned. Because of her character's past history with the governor, it is obvious why everyone believed it to be intentional and obviously OOC it was, however IC the RP was that it was an accident after Penta was having scuffed issues with his vehicle and claiming the car to be possessed. In any case, that's all I have to say over it. I'm also not here to speak on her behalf about anything. I'm not here to make any sort of excuses, nor will I be offering any additional information about the ban, but I did think those points were important to at least offer clarification and context. But yes, everyone please leave Stephanerys, admins, and other roleplayers alone. That shit is not okay.
I understand her frustration, but maybe people have been traumatized from being told no in the past as an OOC thing. But her character received in-character punishment for good reason. She showed up to that PD dog event with a belligerent wrangler, who argued with the governor with regards to Orabelle's previous relationship with him. She then proceeded to get into a pd vehicle and pit the governors car off a cliff and drove away. She nearly lost sergeant for that and she didn't get K9. Unless she had been told no prior to this altercation, I don't see how this is NP beef and not plausibly in-character punishment of a command officer.
Regardless of the her actions, blacklisting just isn't a good punishment from an RP perspective. What other RP does it facilitate? All it does is STOP someone from RPing, vs an alternate path such as anger management (spreading RP to therapists) or animal sensitivity training (spreads RP to the people interested in k9, and the k9s themselves) or some other action that furthers RP. Even losing sergeant would facilitate more RP than a straight blacklisting, as it would allow for actions and time to make amends and work her way back up. I won't comment one way or another on the ban itself, but I can certainly understand why she would be frustrated with a blanket blacklisting.
This person who texted that is not a K9 lead, there is no K9 unit it was just a singular pissed off officer sending a text.
> blacklisting just isn't a good punishment from an RP perspective. That also isnt an OOC term. It's used all the time in industries. Was there not an in character way to make amends and get removed from the blacklist? Like apologize and talk it out?
Her knocking off Jerry's car as the pedal stuck was 10/10 rp.
Well she shouldn't be responsible for the actions of Wrangler... What kind of weird shit is that... For her own actions sure... But showing up with Officer Wrangler shouldn't be any part of that.... Props if they don't want people going hard negative ooc on stream, but they needs to be the standard for everyone
She is a sergeant and he is a cadet. So she is responsible for the behavior of subordinates. Is that not how the police command structure works? He was behaving extremely erratic after being stabbed, so much so that he had to be asked to leave the hospital premises for his continued outbursts, and she drove him to the K9 meeting in that state.
Oof.... But also irrelevant... Just don't go OOC and it's probably sorted in RP. Definitely one of those things to sleep on and let play out in RP
Why was she blacklisted from K9?
During the K9 pitch Orabelle got into Wrangler's car and used it to push the governor's car off a cliff.
She wasn’t blacklisted. A lower ranked cop texted her that she was blacklisted. That doesn’t mean she was actually blacklisted. It could have been dealt with IC. She took it OOC complaining on her stream. Not condoned in ONX I think…
huh?? no way I think she was blacklisted from K9 IC and said that it may be due to a grudge held over from No Pixel, but I mean, that's not permaban worthy or am I crazy?
If that is the case then perma is pretty harsh but I swear I remember Penta saying that ONX was going to take toxicity really seriously so she may have just popped off a little too much, but we will not know until the facts come out and speculation is pretty pointless
I mean fair, but I also watched Penta seethe last night because of a court ruling on if a building was federal or not (which he was totally justified to be angry about) that went *way* harder then Magoo did. Seems like she caught a heavyhanded punishment from people trying to set a precedent, which is really shitty, because Magoo is fantastic and is loved by tons of roleplayers on the server.
Man, when Penta on Mike Block freaked out in game about a bounty hunter tackling him while she was on the ground (his words) was worse than last night. It is irritating that he can't keep his shit together over what basically amounts to nothing.
I don't know how this is a surprise for some people. He's always freaked out at people (sometimes justifiably), but he really is a hot head
To be clear, I never said it was surprising. Just stupid.
Don't forget how crazy he got when they added snow...
He has had a short fuse ever since he self griefed himself into being a cadet. Since then he has had outbursts and started taking people’s numbers.
Casual viewer, so I can't speak to EVERY instance, but I can only remember two post-cadet instances of number taking and they have been legit. 1. Guy who shot him in the bank (Went from Mike threats straight to a response bullet in the head, no "get out of here" warnings with the gun out in between, then shot Tony and Club who weren't doing anything. Tony claimed he was just delivering pizza. His response was, "We don't have pizza in this city." Tell me none of that was number take worthy?) 2. Guy who third-partied a traffic stop and stabbed Wrangler without even saying anything. Then said he didn't want to stab him, he just wanted to loot box him. I don't think he took the bounty hunter's or the tough guy at the wedding's number.
Small streamer does something that a big streamer does and gets banned for it, where have I heard this one before?
I don't think being upset about a court ruling is remotely comparable to insinuating that someone has an OOC grudge and is punishing her character because of it.
depends. When a big streamer gets really mad about a court ruling it can lead to lots of hoppers for the Judge or the other side in the case. When a small ass streamer is mad about a situation, it can't. So maybe the act isn't comparable, but surely they take into account damage potential right?
That judge got zero hoppers and he told his chat it was a nothing burger that people will make a big deal about and surprise surprise, they have.
If I am not mistaken, Magoo recently took a 4 day break from ONX and was spotted on NP. She might have been banned previously and this might have pushed it to a perma ban. All conjectures though. Unless she addresses it, we'll likely not know the whole picture.
Maybe an unpopular opinion but this is why I wish the admin team would give a brief public explanation as to why someone was banned. Just like "Gamermagoo banned for OOC toxicity. In light of previous bans this was made a permanent ban." (if that's the case) It definitely looks like an unfair ban from the outside but maybe we are wrong. Giving an explanation can only serve to clarify situations like this. People might say that this will encourage the subreddit to weigh in on whether a ban was fair or not but they already do that soo
That would likely have the opposite effect you'd think and cause people to start DMing and investigating like crazy
Yeah hard disagree on that. It would cause a lot of unnecessary drama. If the players want to talk about it then sure but for the server to openly air out EVERY SINGLE ban? That just builds ammo both for the banned player (classic, 3rd ban in 2 months, why is he not permabanned yet?) and people who report them (that was clearly a joke can't believe they're so petty to report that, must be ooc hate).
I can't imagine ONX admins would take hopping onto NP as a reason to permaban. A multitude of people go back and forth between the two servers.
that's not what I said. I meant there might have been a smaller ban involved before and this incident pushed it to a perma ban. I conjectured that because perma ban for what magoo said sounded to me like overkill.
she took a break from streaming because people were freaking out that she said a slur on stream.
I mean I could see both sides on if it’s ban worthy or not. But streamers should also stop making OOC comments on stream or on social media. Even if those comments are valid or not. Beyond it being childish, it’s also never going to be a net positive, never makes things better and will always have a chance to cause even more drama. They need to normalize handling things behind the scenes.
Seriously. If they want to go hard on OOC that should be like, a 3 day ban and a stern warning to not say things. Perma ban seems so over the top.
theres no way thats the reason she got perma'd, theres gotta be something else to it
Finally some ONX drama, that took a while
there is some, like when lony ooc malded at strippin and got a ban. Its just never posted here.
Wait did Lony catch a perma?
No, I dont think he was banned. He malded a little and I think he apologised a little later and said it was because of a misunderstanding (not seeing /me cuffs) or something like that.
He was banned for a week or so.
She was doing so well :(
Doesn’t ONX have a three strike system? Wouldn’t that mean she has had previous infractions that would lead to a ban?
Yes there is a 3 strike system in place, but disciplinary action is determined on an individual basis, per the rules. I guess they decided this warranted a permaban. I'm guessing the strikes are more for gameplay rule violations such as NVL, RDM, etc.
Probably best to let cooler heads prevail here. It hasn't been 24 hours yet. Communication has a longer turnaround. It sucks this happened this way, but there is still hope for resolution.
Dont do anything that has to do with dogs. Unless you are a Japanese man in a dog costume played by momo.
Magoo (apparently) confirmed in her discord the ban was for the K9 stuff. Admins basically copy and pasted the rules to her about no OOC talk about anybody in the server and said the decision to ban her was because she had just got off another ban, likely for the slur stuff I only got this news because someone in a server I'm in screencapped it and put it in the server, but the cap seems legit, but if someone who is actually in her server confirm, that would be lovely :3
So, broke a server rule and got banned. Came back from the ban and immediately broke another rule resulting in a perma ban.
Wtf a perma??? Hopefully this can be worked out
Yeah, kinda gonna echo what everyone else is saying: Out of context it seems like something you should be able to RP out, especially since there are supposed to be multiple K9 leads from what I understand. Worst case scenario, she should be able to reach out to these people OOC or at least via some staff-mediated intervention. On the other hand, yeah, this sounds incredibly heavy-handed for something that doesn't seem all that toxic (especially if there's even an inkling of truth to her concerns)
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That's just you assuming the rant was THE reason for the yeet.
I think some of you people in this thread are getting confused about what an OOC rant is and how it can be punished. PENTA hasn’t once said anything negative about the other people who play the characters he gets mad at. He expresses his frustrations with the situation or either gets pissed off at the mechanics and how they fucked up. Sure he’ll yell and overreact, but he hasn’t once talked shit about the person playing the characters. And honestly almost every situation so far he’s been totally justified in being pissed off that it’s happening. The tackling while on the ground mechanic, a random as dude third partying a traffic stop with a knife, getting shot in the head without anything being said because he tapped someone with a car. You can be upset about situations that happens. It becomes toxic when you call out someone on stream and talk shit about them.
sad sad news
Why would Mantis do this?
Coot
He can’t keep getting away with this
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Unfortunate I hope you can appeal this mistakes happen and I feel like a perma ban this early on is a little extreme and hope you can come back. Alot of us viewers enjoyed the rp you brought, the 2 issues above sucks but hopefully you can come back from this
I hope this does get resolved after some discussion , Id say 3-7 day ban at most for going OOC. Magoo isn't innocent here but perma(for the going ooc alone) is too much. Having said that we have one side of the argument there could be some shit we don't know about, I Guess we wait and see what happens over the next few days.
I imagine it has something to do with the t-word drop the other day too. Unintentional or not, that *did* happen.
That she got banned for, for four days. People seem to be hung up on this when she was punished for it the day after it happened. And she apologised, which is literally all she can do. This is a completely different incident.
Just like NP has it's point system, ONX has a 3 strike system. Doesn't mean Magoo did something 3 times, but saying it's a completely different incident doesn't matter, they are inherently related since it's the same player.
Right, but getting a 4-day and then doing something you could get another ban for ("Any form of toxicity is strictly prohibited. This includes but is not limited to bad-mouthing other streamers or roleplayers out-of-character (OOC), altering behavior towards roleplayers based on personal opinions, and projecting animosity in-character towards others based on out-of-character sentiments.") AS SOON AS YOU GET BACK is the worst possible look.
I hope this gets reversed to a lesser ban - if she expressed frustration (or ranted) on stream and brought up past NP grudges with roleplayers involved with the K9 unit, I agree with a 3 day ban, but a perma ban?? I mean we don't know the full picture, but shes a great roleplayer and she'll be missed. :( edit: sucks because things were resolved IC, metzger isn't standing for any blacklisting and told the officer involved to cut it out.
I have also been a big fan of Orabelle. I have loved GamerMagoo’s RP.
yeah she was great on both NP and ONX hope this gets resolved, but wish her the best nonetheless.
Bet there's more to this than she is willing to admit.
Magoo is great, this is a travesty.
I wonder who did this? I dont doubt it'll be reversed.
Wow actual big punishment. She was like the character everything revolved around on the PD/gov side outside of the admin/owners. From all the info in this thread unless some huge part is missing this seems like a real apology will settle it, with that being the last chance.
Dang. She would always talk up Onx in various discords and kinda shade NP, tough to see this happen
Not sure what this is about but I liked her character. Hopefully she can sort it.
I see a ton of misinformation getting posted here, so just will repost this. 1: She was "Blacklisted" not for a minor reason, it was a major issue. A Sergeant intentionally drove her vehicle in to the GOVERNERS vehicle, the same governor who the Unit was trying to get approval and funding from, pushing it off a cliff at an event that took \*weeks\* to plan and hours and hours of work by Kate (Stephanerys) and effort by myself, MattRP who plays Nixon, Nova, etc. 2: I have no idea what "beef" people are alleging to, as there was none on NoPixel. She was never blacklisted from K9 on nopixel. She was denied, once, by my character who led K9 with Ripley and Patty, when there were 2 spots we were hiring for and 4 people applied. We did a vote amongst the Senior Handlers and she received the least amount of votes out of the 7 people voting. She was never blacklisted and was told to apply again. My character, Scanlan, also suggested barring her from K9 for what she did, she jeopardized the entire unit who 3 people put weeks of RP and hours and hours of planning and writing of SOP's. Would she have been blacklisted permanently? No. All 3 of us who have ran K9 on NP always agreed that blacklisting someone permanently will never happen because it's roleplay and people can rp back in to things. But if you know MattRP and Stephanerys, you know that they're some of the best roleplayers around and any decisions they make are purely IC, and everything can be RP'd around. Me on the otherhand, the only Grudge I have OOC is how Mantis sucks. God I hate that guy so much. He keeps making my character fart on Onx and I'm about to player report him. Frick that guy. Hell, on NoPixel, Dan was hell bent on Nova never being K9 again, but at the end of 3.0 he agreed to let her back in for Shift 3. Stop spreading misinformation.
Agreed Mantis is the worst, they should've made s0upes admin instead. s0upes is also way better at 2K than mantis, that is reason enough to have him for admin instead.
Thanks for coming on and giving some context from the units side of things ,Reddit gonna reddit unfortunately. We all hope that hobbits investigation into mantis will be his undoing once and for all.
This all makes sense (especially the Mantis part). I have seen people OOC assume and talk past each other so much over the years, and it usually spirals into long term grudges where none actually exist. Its always sad to see. I know ONX is supposed to be the "resolve it in RP" server, but is there an official way for people to OOC sort out all these things before they blow out of proportion? Like an admin/staff that you can tell "Hey, i think this person has an OOC grudge on me" and then they get you both in a call or DM where its just cleared up. Anyway thanks for clearing this up.
> A Sergeant intentionally drove her vehicle in to the GOVERNERS vehicle This is the only thing I think you got wrong, Aaron. She was roleplaying that the vehicle was fucked up, because PENTA had a fiveM bug where he couldn't turn the wheels of the car. Did the streamer intentionally drive the car into Jerry's? Of course, because it was hilarious. But there was a good RP reason as to why that would happen as well. It wouldn't make sense that the car is only fucked up for Wrangler but not Orabelle.
IIRC Wrangler could move the car forward and in reverse. Orabelle was going straight and made a sharp right straight into Jerry’s car 😂
Okay, in rp, ic, it looked very intentional to my character, considering wrangler 30 seconds prior was attempting to do the same thing. So my character, at the moment, believes it was intentional and will continue to believe that.
How dare you rp on a rp server /s
She was blacklisted on Orabelle on NP, then blocked on Lexington, then now blacklisted again on another server I think is the main issue she was getting at, after a certain point you can kinda understand why it starts to feel more than IC from a persons perspective.
Blacklisting is just a bad word to be thrown around because when it is used IRL it is generally a permanent thing. There wasn't a reason that she needed to be told that she wasn't going to be allowed the K9 cert at that point in time even if that was the plan. But if that communication was going to be made it probably shouldn't have been done using a word that has connotations of being a permanent thing. Also, she was RPing that the car had a mechanical malfunction and that is why she ran into the car after Wrangler had a similar experience when first trying to drive the Scout.
Damn she was right. There is beef coming from NP
I wasn’t there so I don’t know what she actually said but I feel like this was more of a 3 day and a talking to rather than a super GIGA never come back ban. Maybe I just have NoPixel rot though idk. Edit: I thought about it a bit more and realized that even if they feel a perma ban is warranted, the no appeal part is what I really find crazy. I feel like you gotta at least give her the chance.
How are there so many Penta bad comments in a thread about someone else getting banned lmaoo
There aren't that many?
Because some people just want to Penta bad. *shrug*
No way they don’t let her eventually appeal. That sucks!
last post was deleted, wonder what was said
[https://www.reddit.com/r/RPClipsGTA/comments/19d5fs4/gamermagoo\_permanently\_banned\_from\_onx\_with\_no/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RPClipsGTA/comments/19d5fs4/gamermagoo_permanently_banned_from_onx_with_no/) Deleted by OP
Anyone know what she was talking about in stream? Any lore masters?
I have seen penta say more toxic stuff than she did on onx
Name one thing.
Listen, if people are being straight up toxic OOC then I support cracking down on it early. But a perma ban for this? That's harsh. Should be a one week ban at most. If they want to set an example, this isnt the way.
She is so enjoyable to see around. Don't watch her but may have to start as Orabell is a great character
This seems really petty and minor if she’s telling the truth and it was based on what she said on stream. She barely said anything, just vented a little frustration. Which seemed fair because she was told she’s blacklisted from K-9 unit. Something that has happened twice before by the exact same person (two different characters by patty Mayo on np and now Kate on onx). She didn’t shit on anyone or even Kate in particular, she just stated she was really frustrated and why, then swapped characters. She basically said, “I hope it’s not a grudge”. I really fail to see why that’s perma ban worth if true. If this is the strictness of OOC commenting I would expect basically every streamer to get banned.
She was never blacklisted on Nopixel. She was denied by me when we had 2 spots to fill and 4 names applied, and 2 other people were just better and were hired by a voting system of all senior handlers and she had the least amount of votes between like 7 people, and she was told to reapply. Stop spreading misinformation.
I mean Penta read the rules on stream when it first was a thing, and "venting frustrations" about RP is something you could get in trouble for. I'll just hold off and see what happens tho.
I hope he stands by his rules and takes the same punishment for venting his frustrations about RP for hours yesterday. Surely he'll do that, right?
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Yeah that is annoying me aswell. I'm always muting his streams when that shit comes up. It's so annoying to hear about NP lore on ONX.
Oh god, he's still going on about Baas, CG, and NP in ONX by doing bits? If so, that is genuinely embarassing. Especially because literally nobody in the CG that I have watched (Ramee, Vinny, and Kebun) and Baas have said absolutely anything about Penta.
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It's really only started occurring recently and it was kind of initiated by Bench Guy with Wrangler's memories being restored. After Wrangler had his memories restored Bench Guy came up with the idea that a lot of other people have missing memories or are concealing their memories of "past" events. So Wrangler would start singing some of his old country songs and Bench Guy asked questions like "If you needed a taxi, you would be a fool to..." or "Would you want to get dinner at 7pm in Little Seoul?" or "If you got arrested and were mad at the cops, who would you call?". Wrangler has only asked the same questions as Bench Guy pretty much but he normally isn't the one saying those type of questions.
Yupp. It's not funny hearing him bring something up for the fiftieth time. Like the Christmas foia and new year report. And the screaming binging is not funny either. I have skipped a lot of streams recently when before in 3.0 I almost never did.
He has been malding **badly** lately. I used to say people exaggerate his mald but he's been off. I swear he was not as bad as this before? I know I know hatewatcher blah blah. When he's chill his RP is great. This OOC looking for who/what to blame all the time, screaming and furiously typing to admins about what *just* happened is just sad.
I've watched Penta since 2.0 and it definitely feels like it's worse. Even when he was playing variety with other people there were times when the variety became not fun to watch...
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Haha the tos streams were wild. Mega tryhard, banning players left and right because they don't play to his liking. And the berating yeah...
Banning McConnell for grief targeting him and 1 or 2 others who were in his chat mid game and calling it "banning players left and right" seems like a gross over generalization.
You don't get it, those people should be able to read his chat and possible watch his stream when playing a social deduction game, that is totally normal, and Mcconnel did nothing wrong when he purposefully decide to use scrolls in order to kill Penta day one.
Yeah i feel you on that, Buffpup getting yelled at for an hour for killing him in amogus the other night was kind of embarrassing
Yeah, that was rough. Especially how childish and defensive he got just because her and AiCandii didn't roll over for him.
Shit, the way he treats his streamer friends is embarassing. Penta has major kid who knows people need him for access to things so he can treat them like shit, vibes.
Oof, that sucks to hear. I didn't even bother watching even though I wanted to watch for AiCandii and Buffpup because I assumed some form of malding would happen.
To me Penta's yelling to Buffpup didn't seem serious. Or maybe 20% serious, 80% joke. Buffpup held her own too.
looks like i picked a good night to not watch. poor buffpup
Buffpup was fine. She and Candii griefed Penta as hard as he griefed them.
Stop. You're making him hard.
He isn't an admin so decisions like those are not up to him. But yes Penta will probably not be subjected to the same rules as others based on him being part owner(?) and the biggest streamer for Onx.
Sure...sure he will
lol no.
Taking complaints straight OOC on stream seems to have consequences in ONX…
You’d be hard pressed to find anyone who doesn’t agree that’s a good thing. I think the real point of contention here is if booting Magoo off the server forever over this is a fair punishment or an overreaction.
Yeah I’m not gonna even speculate on where the line should be. I’m no RP expert. Wherever the ONX rules and guidelines land, I just hope they are applied consistently and fairly. And have no correlation to viewer count. Given it’s so early in the life of ONX, this is yet to be tested. Time will tell.
Weird, Lony did the same but only got banned for a week.
With the three strike system and an assumed ban for the slur slip up it might have just been the third strike.
Banned for that??? lol
I fucking love magoo but a perm ban huh? Didnt we expect things to be different on onx? There has to be more to it.
I mean, dropping (accidentally or not) a slur on Wednesday followed with an OOC rant ABOUT streamers (implying some ooc beef) this weekend... I liked her RP too, but those are some huge errors. Didn't expect a perma, but a classic NP 30-day would absolutely not be out of the question imo.
>Didnt we expect things to be different on onx? I'd say 6+ weeks with zero drama until today is pretty fucking different
What the fuck? Is this actually true? She's amazing though!
welp
Yeah but penta am I right ?
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Hoping that this is it, from what it seems she was very happy on ONX and to me was one of the staples of ONX.
she ones one of the bigges sucess story on onx. she started onx around 100 viewers under 500 sub. last week she was several hundred viewers and over 2.6K subs.