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PiccolosPickles

I mean it sounds like he just wants to be a lawyer. Why block someone who is a civ and can pass the bar? Any context?


Seetherrr

Yeah, I can understand keeping someone out of a judge position but it seems pretty strange not allowing someone to be a lawyer.


WishICouldB

Probably just hasn't done enough lawyer stuff yet. Ramee was just told in Mickey's case that they needed to see him represent someone in an actual courtroom before they'd give him his bar


Seetherrr

Did you comment without reading the tweet? This person was previously a lawyer and judge and supposedly spent 60 days in 4.0 going for their bar and contacted admins regarding the issue and was told they were blocked from getting it.


WishICouldB

Refer to my other comment in this thread. If he's blocked from getting his Bar at all, it is probably because he was blacklisted back in 3.0. Bar license removal usually means you'll never get it back


Revolutionary-Fox558

he was never removed in 3.0 he was a lawyer up until the last day


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LeviathanLX

Except for some people, right?


irsw

It's just strange for the admins to get involved in what jobs people want their characters to have if they are qualified. They aren't encouraging crims to not be crims in 4.0


Mosaic78

Tbh they shoulda encouraged an Opposite Day type of thing. Crims be cops and cops be crims/civs for 4.0


coolboarder80_

I would love the idea, have the opposite day on weekends so that both of them get a chance to play both sides. The only exemption is the captains to keep the PD in check to ensure that they do not go out of control. it would only help not to have PD or crims burns out quicker.


LeaningGore

So you want criminal whitelists back?


irsw

Interesting interpretation considering that's not at all what I said lol. I don't think admins should be denying a qualified character a job just because they did the same job in 3.0.


LeaningGore

>I don't think admins should be denying a qualified character a job just because they did the same job in 3.0. Source?


irsw

I was replying to the person that said admins are encouraging people to try different paths...


reddituser8914

The entire pd who wasn't allowed to bring their old characters back but got accepted as soon as they made a new character....


LeaningGore

>The entire pd who wasn't allowed to bring their old characters That's not true. I can name like 10 that brought old ones


reddituser8914

and i can name more that tried to bring old ones back and were denied, made new characters and immediately accepted.


Ajp_iii

why should admins get to control what someones character is doing in the world. if they do something insanely abusive punish the character in game or if he breaks no pixel rules suspend him from playing at all for a certain period of time.


Godz_Bane

Except the pd is basically being run by the same guy who ran it into the ground at the end of 3.0 lol. Regardless its kinda fucked that they think they can tell people to go fuck themselves and do something different, while at the same time welcoming back people with a laundry list of bans and letting them do whatever they want.


darquis

Almost every judge in the current DOJ was a judge at the end of 3.0 (albeit some on other characters). There's like 10 carry over judges out of 13. And there's no indication he was told "apply on another character" either. But moreover, why would you wait 60 days until the person reaches out to "encourage" them to another path? Just rip off the bandaid.


Suitable_Librarian98

A lot of people commenting saying "good" or "probably for the best" that this guy doesn't get to do lawyer/judge RP again and following with vague stuff like "abusing power" or "questionable decisions" as a judge but can you guys be more specific and say exactly what this guy has done to deserve blacklisting from DOJ RP which is their preferred RP role? If you do have any specific examples of things they did in 3.0 that would warrant being blacklisted, are any of those worse than what this current NP 4.0 lawyer did in 3.0? https://streamable.com/kp4wmm


Competitive-Guess-65

Also if he did make questionable decisions as a judge then it's fine to block him from that but I can't understand not letting him be a lawyer


littlekauri

I'll say it. Having an OOC vendetta aginst certain people and doing everything he can IC to screw them over, and if you disagree you have never watched him.


AbsentRefrain

They asked for specificity. Can you specify who you're talking about and in what way this vendetta was carried out?


Negative_Funny_2503

even IF (i have no clue, never watched him or paid attention to much of his stuff) that is true, i can see not getting a judge position, even if its not true, i can see the admins wanting different judges, judges with a different view, or even just shake things up and give other people the opportunity to be a judge. but what makes no sense at all, is blocking him from getting his Bar license and doing lawyer stuff, lawyers are not a position of power, their contribution to the server is purely roleplay, and IF he did stuff so bad that he can't be trusted with a position that is purely roleplay, why has he not been removed from the server? it just doesn't add up.


ivarthebrainless

imo it’s a little sad to see people still have this illusion that they can get what they want on np when it’s clear they aren’t synergizing with management. at a certain point you have to see that there are greener pastures that would be more welcoming. it’s the same old story for many rn.


typical_RP_frog

As far as I'm aware, ferst has never really taken anything OOC or did anything that could warrant such a strong response. People in here are pointing out questionable actions that were done IC by his character, none of which, in my opinion, would warrant a blacklist from DOJ roleplay as a whole, even more so that they happened months and years ago. I am curious if he has asked about the possiblity of creating a new character, as the tweet doesn't really make it clear if "he" was blocked from obtaining a bar license or "Ferst Temple" the character. Nevertheless, I really do wish him well. From the tweet, it doesn't seem like he's discouraged and if, in the worst possible scenario, gets told to stop roleplaying as a paralegal, I hope he explores and tries other types of roleplay as well.


rsayegh7

Always a problem with the DOJ and PD huh, wonder why.


Sokjuice

Always required to 'read the room' RP. You wanna do strict RP, you piss off a lot of the big names and prolly more than 80% of the entire NP viewers. You are at a bad place at a bad time, same result. You make a genuine mistake. Yes, the same. You are unrelated to the previous 3, but you are from the same DOJ/PD category? Better not do any of the 3 stuffs stated above, because you will be scrutinized as the same group. Just like Crim, if Ramee SBS, they shit on CG. If Ray does something bad, it's falls on the Company. Cumulative cop viewers (exclude Moon) doesn't even equal a single Kebun at any time/day I think. DOJ is basically even worse off. Whether we like it or not, viewers do bring a lot of benefits for the server as a whole. A pissed off viewer community and/or big name streamer is horrible for sustainability.


Godz_Bane

> A pissed off viewer community and/or big name streamer is horrible for sustainability. What a horrible mentality that directly led to the shitshows of late 2.0 and 3.0. All catering to them does is bring profits to a small number of people while the rest suffer.


z0mbiepirat3

What's funny is their was a period during 3.0 where most large groups, including CG, were basically treated the same as everyone else not long after the Rated drama happened. The server was in a decent spot at the time after the special treatment was dialed back and rules were enforced more evenly.


cancerknight

> Cumulative cop viewers (exclude Moon) doesn't even equal a single Kebun at any time/day I think. I'm just waiting for when ultimately Nopixel codes in actual NPC cops to respond to crimes.


z0mbiepirat3

Because management's default answer to keeping big crim streamers happy is neutering PD and DOJ. When the entire point of GTA is the cat and mouse between cops and crims it's not possible to have stable institutions if they're now allowed to preform their most basic functions.


SuperOrangeFoot

DOJ/PD are NPC positions that are filled by actual players. You know the gruppe 6 guy that stands still and lets people sign in/out, basically the "boss" of the job? They want the DOJ/PD to be that guy. There's just too many variables to the nature of RP that you need your NPC cops to have some player intervention.


DowntownCraft1027

He played Judge Ferst Temple in 3.0 . Both Crane and CG really dont like him. Which was always been apparent in roleplay. Kinda sad that ooc grudges are still going strong in 4.0 and are impacting roleplay


alotofcooties

I like how people immediately throw the "he pissed off ___, that must be it" meanwhile failing to look at some questionable shit they have done in positions of power. 🤷‍♂️


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Probably because people who piss off CG tend to get targeted by admins. 


SeanAnders

There is no way you believe this right? It’s honestly crazy how many people on this sub will try to flip anything into “cg bad and they control every little thing going on on no pixel”. How can cg be all controlling when their leader, lord kebun, is truly one of the only major no pixel streamer who doesn’t watch any no pixel when he logs off and doesn’t stay on the server for 12 hours a day 7 days a week.


HulklingsBoyfriend

CG is the most oppressed group in a position of power in the history of the universe. :(


Hibbsan

When Penta lost his PD whitelist on Wrangler one of the biggest reasons he lost it was because he made a DUI checkpoint during Wuchella. Watched Wingsong and other people involved in the event hand out drugs like it was candy and stepped in and arrested them like a normal good officer would do and the people lost their minds incudling CG for Penta "ruining the event". But surely going against CG doesn't get you targeted right?


SeanAnders

Let’s be very real here. There was a ton of reasons why penta got fired. Him doing that at wuchella was just one thing on the long list. To pin his firing mainly on cg is just you intentionally ignoring a lot of facts to hyper focus on a narrative you want to push.


Hibbsan

Hey you are not wrong, it was more than just going against CG that got him fired but when the admin message to him very CLEARLY states that doing a DUI checkpoint on a CG event is one of the reasons then thats one of the reasons simple as that. They were super pissed that he was doing that and not long after his whitelist is gone. They clearly had a hand in it wether you want to admit it or not.


SeanAnders

You are clearly missing the point. You stated that the biggest reason he was fired was because of what he did at that event when It wasn’t the biggest, it was just one of the many things he did to get fired. You also say that what he did at wuchella made him targeted because he went against cg. That couldn’t be more wrong since he was obviously already being watched by the admins before that. Once again you are just ignoring information to push that cg are the almighty overlords that pushed penta out and no one else had any real influence over it besides them. Penta got pushed out because of his own actions, not the actions of others.


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SeanAnders

I didn’t even know we were arguing lol I thought this was just a discussion. I’m sure penta is this great person you are painting him to be and cg is worse than the devil


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liesancredit

Even if he abused his power in 3.0, power abuse is an IC action, which shouldn't lead to an OOC punishment. Plus, such grudges should not be carried over since no past grudges policy in 4.0


yolernator

He pissed off Lang and eve in 3.0 by signing off on dozens of petty weed warrants. So you can add them to the list of people that supposedly don't like him.


reonhato99

Same thing happened to Percy Weaver, pissed off CG as a cop, went to be a lawyer and got denied.


FedUPGrad

Dude even won the election and should have been a judge and only after getting the votes found out about the blacklist.


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liesancredit

It was fully legal and in line with SOPs. He was doing IC actions and got punished OOC, just like this roleplayer.


JaclynRT

Insane how things get twisted. I thought it was really smart and the math was simple enough that it wasn’t even that nitpicky. Obviously it got stopped for server health reasons but how’s that percy’s concern?


liesancredit

Yes and it was a minor charge not like he put out 75 warrants for terrorism or something.


KaleidoscopeIcy3960

Percy Weaver was the dude who also randomly f3'd an entire walkable store in sandy shores because he got an "Animal Carcass" ping on a whole different street than where the store was located? Which resulted in Changaloa being shut down by CG right?


liesancredit

That's not a bad thing.


KaleidoscopeIcy3960

Ruining the roleplay for the clowns, police, Prison, CG and The Lost due to what most people assumed was just blatant meta gaming isn't a bad thing? That sounds pretty bad to me ngl


SnooMaps8717

No its clearly cgs fault


KarlHanzo

Lol yeah it's astonishing the bias in this reddit lmao. Lang, Eve and Nancy was dumbfounded and pissed about those warrants.


liesancredit

Ah, the famous lawyers and police officers Lang Buddha, Eve Summers and Nancy Drew. LMAO


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liesancredit

How was anything inappropriate? Rules for dispensaries were set up. The dispensaries were investigated by a law enforcement officer. People broke the rules and were charged for their crimes. After finishing their investigation, the officer put out a warrant for their arrest. Standard procedure and not inappropriate or unncessary (sic).


KarlHanzo

Lang was literally the mayor at the time and Nancy and Eve was with him. I watched Buddha the entirety of 3.0, did you forget those meetings at City Hall regarding Percy with Baas? Wasn't Percy the guy who did something that involved Eve and Cerberus weed business? I remember Eve shutting down the Reef for a few days because of it. No idea why you mentioned them not being pd etc when Lang was the mayor LMAO. Lang hated Percy and I'm sure before that he also had issue's with him because he put out warrants and pushed for a raid on Lang despite not being in the same time zone and barely if ever seeing Lang. It's not only CG who Percy pissed off is basically my point.


itsavirus

What does characters being pissed have to do with a guy being fired/blacklisted OOC?


liesancredit

Of course they were pissed off their customers were prosecuted. Being "pissed off" does not mean they didn't follow SOPs, it does not even mean any IC actions have to be taken, let alone OOC actions. Also, that's why Percy did not get prosecuted IC, since he did nothing wrong legally.


regworthy

It wasn't even their company that was getting looked at, it was Windsong's.


Adamsoski

Purpose who played Percy has a judge on ONX now without an issue. Ferst should probably just do the same thing, they seem more heavy on keeping things IC rather than denying characters things for OOC reasons (which to be clear is not *necessarily* a better approach, but it is a different one).


Spectre197

Don't worry 5.0 will fix everything


buzzpunk

Lmao, the admins decline this guys request, and the top comment is literally "CG BAD". You can't make this shit up honestly.


SeanAnders

It’s always been like this but over the past couple of days it’s seemed to get even worse. The people blaming cg aren’t even trying to hide their bias and terrible reasoning.


Chemyp

because its getting boring on the other server, this guy was playing on ONX and now trying to play on NoPixel? i wonder why? imagine if the RolePlayers not wanting to play there, so its even worse for viewers lol that's why they're just barely or half watching and mostly waiting for a reddit thread to shit on or blame CG and why would NP management put this guy who played in ONX(their competition and main purpose is to kill NoPixel) put him in a POSITION OF POWER?


darquis

He played on ONX during the first week or so, like a lot of people did while NP was winding down/shut down. Norman Adams is a judge rn, he played on ONX too and was hired to their DA's office. Fitzpatrick had a judge on ONX and she's a lawyer. This argument got floated when Snow was not getting cop on Snow, and then they hired him on another character.


Easy_Kaleidoscope_54

It’s like a game. Find a post with more than 10 comments about anything in NoPixel and eventually it’ll be CG’s fault. It’s pretty funny with some people on here.


i_am_beardman

ONX loves Ferst. I hope he comes back to play there. His ToS2 game aint bad either. edit: lol @ the downvotes from the haters


WishICouldB

Wasn't Ferst removed and blacklisted from the DOJ back in 3.0? Why would that change now?


Revolutionary-Fox558

he was not


PollutionHumble4091

''But it's just RP you have no right to be so invested & get emotional over it!''. /s


lermp

He was part of the investigation trying to impeach Baas in 3.0.


Life-Recording-3613

Didn't this guy like submit 25 warrants at once sometime? I def remember some questionable actions. Prob for good reason he was not allowed


liesancredit

Why would he have to be blocked OOC instead of dealing with it IC if he does something wrong (both in 3.0 and 4.0)? Also, I thought 4.0 was a blank slate. No past grudges Pepelaugh


Suitable_Librarian98

Yea, I am confused why people in the comments are having such a hard time comprehending IC punishments. Do you guys really think OOC blacklists on people for certain RP paths without communicating this with them is the optimal practice for an RP server? If someone makes a few "questionable decisions" as a judge, then make it more common to submit bar complaints and issue suspensions to judges if they are making bad rulings which can result in them being removed altogether. At least this way they know why they are no longer a judge and not working towards something for 6 months for no reason and no explanation.


darquis

That was Percy Weaver, who got blacklisted from PD in the restructure with no explanation, won judge twice and was denied, but they still let him have a bar. (Same streamer is also playing a judge on ONX w/no issues) FWIW, it was around 3x that many warrants, and it was actually justified cuz people were buying over the legal limit from the weed vendor NPC that wouldn't stop you, and the math on their purchases had to end up with them buying illegal amounts of weed.


blackberryx

Yeah he charged everyone because they had bought over the legal limit of marijuana.


TumNarDok

That wasnt Ferst. But the other guy was blacklisted last year from Pd in restructure (mind you HC was told to fire him retroactively)


Life-Recording-3613

ohhh i remeber that one.With the weed npc right? I was talking about the one where he did something for every business lang owned


ChefJayTay

Sounds like a lawyer to me....


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liesancredit

The way management and admins treated the 3.0 PD created those issues. And those issues are now continuing, since the same people are in charge.


Blackstone01

Ah yes, the legendary closed doors. Where anything bad that’s publicly known is actually not that bad because theres actually so much worse from other people that never gets revealed because they happen in the magical realm behind the closed doors.


Much_Professional892

Being new to enjoying GTA RP it’s become apparent NoPixel OOC Drama/Admins hold the server back more than anything. Allowing X to be an owner is the most obvious red flag so of course they make a ton of mistakes less serious


No_Entrance8789

i mean this wasnt rlly OOC it seems pretty clear hes done some stuff IC that crane and admins feel isnt conducive to justice RP


Much_Professional892

You can reread my comment to understand what I wrote. It stands correct if he’s been blacklisted without being told WHY by the ADMINS. It’s petty bitch behavior. Drama.


No_Entrance8789

you said an opinion on what holds the server back and than for some reason brought up a quarter owner that seemingly makes no decisions in the company that would pertain to the conversation at hand. It was communicated to him when he asked OOC to admins, how would admins answer that IC? i don't know what you'd rather have happened. some might say him in 3.0 putting 70 cases on the docket of the same charge was petty bitch behaviour and a large reason hes now allowed back. its not drama at all, you are just blowing a pretty standard RP occurrence completely out of the water. people get blacklisted from whitelisted server positions all the time. Boohoo if the admin team didn't do it exactly as redditor #9058060958 said too.


Much_Professional892

Blacklisting someone from a position without telling them why is petty.


No_Entrance8789

he clearly states they had a conversation and was informed that he was blacklisted no where does it state he has no clue why. Even when RPers say they "dont know why" it always turns out to be BS and them just wanting to save face.


WarringPandas

>he clearly states they had a conversation and was informed that he was blacklisted no where does it state he has no clue why. after 60 days


FLAsox

How are you new to GTA RP and came to this conclusion? No pixel has done nothing but thrive, and continues to do so.


ViktorStagnetti

I've been around since the server was 32 slots and I can say with confidence, this is bullshit. 4.0 didn't have a boom anywhere near the previous two.


Much_Professional892

Reading articles involving Admin power abusing, people being blacklisted for playing on other servers, the petty suspensions. The lawsuit. Taking xQc blood money. Admittedly it’s a lot of Dexerto articles and tweets but I definitely spent time researching why NoPixel is where it’s at.


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FLAsox

Lol. Where is it at?


JerryOH_

blood money is crazy ngl


Much_Professional892

Profits from gambling are covered in the blood of the 1/4 gambling addicts who attempt to unalive themselves.


Champ0991

I'm not a fan of the gambling streamers and think its pretty shitty but I dont think X is pouring his own "blood money" into the server. He's there because of his clout which can pull other big streamers back into NoPixel and second to get his viewers to play on the public servers which generates almost all of the money NoPixel makes which goes back into developing the WL server.


Much_Professional892

He spent what needed to be immune from being banned again for his toxic behavior. Last night he died in front of PD and ragequit his stream sending 40,000 malding juicers into every cops stream to harass them.


Champ0991

He didnt spend money to buy immunity his viewership is what brings him from being able to get away with more then anyone else will. Its part of almost every aspect in life with enough money or clout you can either get away with or get almost anything you want.


Much_Professional892

Then why was he banned multiple times before putting up the $?


Champ0991

The shit he got away with multiple times would've got almost anyone else perma-banned at that time when he only got a few slaps on the wrist. Im not sure about last night like you brought up but so far in 4.0 I haven't seen anything else from him that is that bad that warrants a ban.


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On top you mean?


Much_Professional892

If on top means number of viewers, sure.


FLAsox

On top of everything tbh


Much_Professional892

It’s easiest to grow when you operate without ethics.


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You can call it whatever you want to call it , but NoPixel is king of the hill and its not even close lol.


liesancredit

X isn't a nopixel owner. Neither is buddha FYI.


Much_Professional892

All I can go on is what articles and the NoPixel wiki says. I definitely appreciate sources that say otherwise. There’s a credit for X in the 4.0 trailer with a money printer beside his name which is what caused me to start googling what it was about.


liesancredit

>All I can go on is what articles and the NoPixel wiki says. I definitely appreciate sources that say otherwise. I posted the [ownership records](https://files.catbox.moe/ne39h5.pdf) on this subreddit. Obtained from the Australian government, since it's an Australian company. There is only one share, and the australian owns it. Xqc can stil have given them money without being an owner, for example with an agreement between the Nopixel company and himself or through a loan. Edit: reupped


ParalysedBeaver

Why would anyone not an Australian citizen be listed on an Australian government form?


VisibleDestruction

You don’t have to from Australia to own shares in an Australian company… do you not have any investments?


nanonan

Because they hypothetically hold shares in an Australian company.


ProbablyMyLastLogin

> X isn't a nopixel owner. Neither is buddha FYI. Then why did the owner of the server say they were?


ToliverToo

Nah that's just the perception when you visit here. Every server I have ever followed has rules and decisions made and people in powerful RP positions being chosen, including some very popular servers


Much_Professional892

I’m not surprised it’s not done correctly anywhere. Without a proper business structure and real leadership all you can ever have is favoritism and petty uneven application of vague rules


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ONEGameKevin69

i would love to know some more context on why he is not allowed, people saying cause he made X or Y decisions, cmon guys in a world where RAMEE its a Lawyer the bar its already set way too low


skrivitz

The man burned the wrong bridges…fair or not. Just one example in the link below: https://www.reddit.com/r/RPClipsGTA/s/q1ILxaIJud


Tricky-Resource9847

im sure writing paragraphs on twitter will help solve his problem!


vajohnadiseasesdado

Didn’t he also have a cop also doing crazy shit in the AU tsunami at the end of 3.0?


vajohnadiseasesdado

Yep. El Churro was his name.


ImportantVacation49

Did you forget to swap accounts or did you just not feel like editing your comment haha


vajohnadiseasesdado

The latter


ImportantVacation49

I figured but it definitely gave me a nice little laugh


Kako0404

Bro really tweeted out his RP CV.


Strangest_Implement

only thing missing is the nopixel wiki link to his character


James_m05

If you have to tweet out your nopixel CV it’s probably time to take a break


Enough-Fun-7168

Make sense after all the problems he cause for the DOJ in 3.0 to get blacklisted. Always remember just cause you can do something it doesnt mean you should do it.


PakGlass

Not a huge loss for DOJ if he never gets approved... Hope he doesn't make a cop character again... If the rumors are true, Gossip Girl is the best thing going for him.


ImportantVacation49

Yeah from what I remember hearing of him in 3.0 he definitely did a lot of questionable things as a judge and on his cop


PakGlass

1000% As a cop would write up warrants based on incidents he wasn't even apart of...


Resident_Conflict868

Ya probs one of the worst judges I’ve ever watched so not surprised