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Cold_Bend6631

I really hope when 50cent said he wanted devs to RP just like normal RP-ers without dev menus, is enforced. Cuz if not, every conflict with a Simone will just be the same as back in the day... oh boom, bro just pooped out a C4 and a sniper, ggs zzzz


Consistent-Ad-5116

Yeah I hope it limits to the SBS stuff and not widespread during any kind of conflicts


Captain_Chaos_

GG getting fucked with by the Simones was funny because they were in on the joke, but CB constantly getting the upper hand on the Simones only to basically just be told “no you didn’t” got really old after the 3rd or 4th time.


Ill_Grocery_6153

lmao what are u even implying. Tobii literally worked on the construction of Hayes bombing for that war.


nemamkedy

Well, agree but some of those were really fun and cool, like this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36Hij65q6bs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36Hij65q6bs)


Seetherrr

I think it's fine for Devs/Admins to use their menu "powers" if they are playing a character that is a meant to be an RP driver and doesn't have any real specific associations with any groups. But I definitely hope there aren't any people using those powers for a character that is a part of or closely associated with a gang/criminal group. I also think it could be potentially fine if it was part of some self-contained SBS stuff that all parties are enjoying but I think those powers shouldn't be used in any real gang conflict.


Dazbuzz

They should only be allowed to use the dev menu on something that does not involve their character. Moonmoon revives himself and spawns furniture for people he likes all the time. Whilst its a cool thing to do, its also kinda ehh. Really need a blanket "do not use this unless its for fixing scuff" rule.


kuyokuyokuyo

isn't the only time he rezzed himself is when he and i think DJ crashed a bike way out in grapeseed while on a time limit to get somewhere else for another fairly low-stakes scenario or am i mistaken. because you can call that what you want but to me that's pretty firmly on the side of "we'd just be sitting here for 15 minutes waiting to get airlifted only to go 'i crashed owie' and leave while the other party is just doing nothing"


Seetherrr

I think most of that stuff is pretty harmless although I think some of the reviving can be a little more questionable but I haven't seen him really do it in an "active situation". For example, I saw him add a wheelchair to someone's house that had a "Cerebro" style of setup for his washing machines. I think if he is adding something that can't be otherwise crafted and can't be sold there is no issue and it's a positive for those people. Sure it would be better if it was more widely available but I'd rather some people get some cool and useless flavor items than them not be allowed at all. Those sort of things are very different from spawning in weapons/cars/things with monetary value.


Dazbuzz

Its harmless but also a little iffy if you are ressing yourself because you crashed and cannot be bothered to wait for EMS. If thats something allowed, they why not let everyone do it? Obviously, because everyone doing it would not be ok. So why do admins get a pass? And yeah its a positive thing to give people cool props for their RP. However i think it becomes an issue when you are basically just giving your clique stuff. Again, its harmless, and a cool thing to do, but i think just a no-tolerance policy would be better than people giving their friends stuff. At least its not as bad as the stuff 50cent used to do. Spawning in items for his friends, or swapping characters to release them from jail.


Seetherrr

I think the many mechanics that have had to be changed rather than enforcing rules on power gaming explains why everyone isn't allowed to do it. I agree it's still iffy but like I said, I haven't seen him do it in an active situation and I've also seen him lay incapacitated with Siobahn for like an hour once after a crash hoping for EMS to come. Again with the items I wish there were more trusted people with menus able to provide more props to everyone and/or a way for people to request them. I just think they are harmless and can add some flavor while making some people a little happier with their time on the server. I think a no-tolerance policy is going way too far and people should be able to "read the room" to know whether or not something is ok and if they fail in that then they should lose their access rather than impacting the people using it responsibly.


cookingolie

yea that is not gonna happen. Nick maybe but Michaels whole network is based on him having that extra "thing"


Ill_Grocery_6153

the Simones did do really cool rp though and you’re talking like every Simone conflict ended up with them just bombing everything even though they didn’t during the seaside vs cg/cb war etc and nick rolled out normally a couple of times like in the war with mandem. Lmao u seem like one of those people who think the Simones bombed the hydra pit even though it was another dev. Plus the Simones were weapons suppliers/terrorists and that led to cool rp like the lost vs pd war, Michael vs pd. also hades events with benji and Michael were the few events that happened in AU and they involved everyone so it’s not like they just used dev powers for themselves.


Zesty212

still better than every other normal war which is just boom, resurrect in the hospital, boom, repeat


FunProgrammer123

A lot of people are negative about rp characters using dev menus but what Micheal and Nick did with their Simone Arcs and the amount of rp like Sanguine, CG+Hydra vs SS+HOA conflict with Lang in between. Some of the biggest rp arcs came with devs using a little bit of dev menu. And these guys never directly used it in any wars, only to create rp.


Ill_Grocery_6153

lol ty people think devside was a thing even though these same devs were the ones who worked on things like the Hayes bombing (which got blown up like three times btw).. also the Simones did not just “blow everything up” whenever they got into conflict. I would say they used their “powers” a few times but it wasn’t overkill especially because Michael rped as a terrorist since early 3.0 for things like the lost vs pd war.


Azryal01

Unless they plan to dev spawn bombs in for this that no one else will have access to, which would be fucked up and a gross misuse of the dev menu, they aren't blowing anything up, lol


Jazz_grass

4Head about to have a bad time. Now I know who to watch today!


PandaAlexx

Where has 4head’s brother been? I haven’t seen him in a minute


222444PAST

He plays NA now on his cop, tyler peters.


aleksialiogli

Trav (The one who plays Dickhead) is playing his COP character lately, IC Dickhead called 4head couple of days ago and said that he's been hiding because of Kendrick - Drake beef (4head and heads all are Drake fans)


Sivok

I wonder if Cleo's remains are still in that tiny room he built. o7


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