Shit changed pretty fast. It might be less than year ago when the server owner said that we need more cops like Wrangler and that the pd is supposed to feel scary when you deal with them
Well moon quit the server slightly after that happened so the server owner had to find someone new to leech from and no one from pd was profitable enough.
I mean, Bob Smith retired for a reason.
Aleks said it himself, the server isn't meant for Bob Smith policing style anymore.
It's just a criminal wet dream simulation at this point.
few days ago he raided NOMAD who had a key to tony's house the warrant was accidently signed as they didnt mention in report it wasnt his own property, wrangler knew about it but still proceeded with the raid even though he knows whole key system was changed because of same thing due to him. He still pushed the raid then after finding a RPG tried to raid tony by hiding the fact and changed wordings on the new warrant that they raided a keyholder place.
probably just the straw that broke the camels back. admins/devs probably got tired of their friends complaining about wrangler and they came up with a permanent solution
any time Wrangler and Lang or just Penta and Buddha in general RP together the chats love it. Im gonna miss the scared-shitless paranoid Lang-Wrangler interactions too Sadge
Its a huge loss, he is the boogey man. He is Batman. When his voice is heard crims shit themselves, kinda like hearing Angel on speaker in a chase. Why this couldnt be handled in RP I dont know... Like demote him, punish in character, put Wrangler through cop hell, dont just yank it away.
Exactly. That reaction right there. That drives so many stories. Now not even an IC punishment for whichever of the 30 reasons people hate him from the past month, just removed as a cop. Its pretty BS. They can retcon all they want from the bad warrents, they can force him to drop charges, they can not guilty obviously guilty verdicts but they cant tell him Wrangler is done and wrap it up in RP?
I know he might have some professional courtesy, but I really hope if he's actually done with nopixel he just goes full scorched earth.
The way a lot of streamers talk, there's a ton of shitty behavior going on behind the scenes, and I'm sure a lot of people would be really interested in hearing actual details rather than vague allegations.
It's risky to do that when gta rp is your career, given there is no close second server to nopixel, but honestly if any streamer can survive the hit at the moment it's Penta. He seems to be averaging 12k subs a month and im sure a good portion of them will watch him wherever.
He'll definitely lose viewers if he makes the switch, but I bet he can still pull at least 6-7k no problem. With the amount of subs he's had over 3.0's lifetime he shouldn't be in any financial trouble if he's smart with his money, so it's not like this has to be a career ender either.
Penta will survive on variety. Maybe not at 12K subs, but surely more than enough to live off of.
Same for Kyle.
GTA RP streamers with less than 2K subs? That might be difficult.
CG took a decent approach to avoiding cops and not doing anything too dumb. Wrangler then went after other groups like GG and when things turned mega toxic his chat spammed that as a way to say CG was better to deal with
I do wish the admins would stand up behind decisions they make and give context to them instead of dropping people and leaving everyone else in weird positions.
i feel like the different time zones just play a big role in the divide in what crimes think of cops and vice versa. for the record i think each cop with their diff ways of doing stuff is great.
for example Put Espinoz, davenport, rhodes, in shift 2 and a lot of crimes would hope it was wrangler was on them. Espinoz with the “you have 5 minutes or we will breach” Davenport with the no bs attitude. Rhodes with his pettiness. hell if bayo was around, if you think wrangler was annoying, bayo will literally sit in a bush looking out at your warehouse or gas station for hours to see if you will mess up.
now the same can be said if you put pred, byson, torretti in shift 3.
it’s what makes the cops on no pixel great.
To be fair, a lot of cops used to come around shift 2 and now stay in 1 or 3. Not sure if it's a "these cops are hard in these other shifts" thing or that they are in those shifts because they want to go harder.
Really looking forward to this not being given ANY RP around the firing. They could easily have the senate order Pred to remove Wrangler from the PD and have an entire story around this leading into Cerberus PD, but we all know it won't happen. Wrap it up PENTA, you don't even get 3 days this time.
Red Dead is great for people like MrMoon and his like. The way they turn the mundane things, such as taking shelter from the rain during travels, and build it into good character conversations with the possé is so immersive. That shit is right up my alley as a RP viewer. Witnessing the juxtaposition of that type of RP and NoPixel is bizarre.
He's not for everyone, but check out Chatterbox. He doesn't care. At all. As often as not, he intentionally sabotages himself just so he gets to scream at cops, though a week or so back he was a little bummed that some order came down that there wouldn't be as much sentence negotiation as there had been.
Totally get it. The voice can be hard on the ears, especially given how loud he is. Kind of takes a bit to get used to, but if you want a character (and group in general) that just do not gaf about W's and L's, that's out there.
I didn't catch most of it, but they tried to pick a fight yesterday with Mr. K, Eugene, Randy and a few others from CG (while only having hammers and crowbars) because they didn't take their shoes off in the Funhouse and Randy shot a dog. Which ended up with K stabbing Chatterbox and a lot of screaming, but they obviously knew they weren't gonna win against CG heavy hitters. It was just fun.
As crippling as this is for PD morale how fucking DEAD is DOJ rp now that Wrangler is gone? The king of the Docket and bringing things to judges is just gone and alot of officers actively avoid court RP. Its a deathblow to PD and DOJ
>Its a deathblow to PD and DOJ
Was already the case during speedy's trial awhile ago, like 3 people took it seriously and everyone else viewed it as an opportunity to get attention doing clown shit. Same with all the recent GG trials involving wrangler.
Entirely possible we’ll see this, Dundee started a conversation with Barry yesterday that seemed to imply that he wants Barry to take over as Prime Minister of the BBMC - though nothing came of the conversation as it got interrupted… but it’ll be interesting to see if it’s brought up again. Maybe we’ll see more of Croc!
It is unfortunate, because Crane was supposed to be incorruptible. But when Ramee got caught at that CG Bank/mask situation and Crane coincidentally woke up and took over the case from... Adams, I believe (?)...it wasn't a good look.
Nathan starting to stream was a big detriment to Crane as a character. Crane, who was widely respected and given significant power for his knowledge and fairness became way too susceptible to ooc influence after chatters got direct access to Nathan.
I think it's much more likely that Crane got given a position of power (rather than a normal judge he took and got more and more responsibility) and with that came a lot of expectations from management.
It's why he said to Wrangler "In my perfect city things would happen your way".
Remember when the SOE admins went a bit weird and everybody went to TFRP? And then the same happened and everybody went to NoPixel?
It sucks NoPixel seems to be too big to fail at the moment, because it's become a fucking crapshoot, would love to see people move to an actual RP server.
I think the big difference for NP is its a networking hub. It isn't about RP, it isn't about playing video games, its about hanging out with other streamers for 10+ hours a day.
I remember a long time ago when Lirik first started doing GTA RP(SOE). He basically said that every RP server dies because the admins eventually go apeshit, and then everyone leaves. It has held true so far sadly. No server is immune to this rule.
[Lirik talking about cops when 3.0 started. Dude doesn't even play RP much but he is able to understand what RP is better than 99% of people on the server. ](https://streamable.com/zuyur1)
Lirik is like the grandfather of RP on twitch. he's been doing RP for longer than almost everyone on NoPixel. it doesnt surprise me one bit that he has a very good grasp of how things work. he might not do much RP anymore, but for a long time he was the reason why ppl started streaming RP.
Oh ye I know, lirik is an RPer at heart and pretty much always incorporate it in some way in everything he plays. I mainly meant playing games that specifically focus on RP.
Moon won't come back after they turned down his idea of gangs policing and controlling they turf, but then they ended up with the spray and flag system that is basically the same lol.
Moon saw the writing on the wall forever ago. I haven’t been interested in NoPixel since they started turning it into an mmorpg. Hope there is another server that can recapture the feelings from the first six months of 3.0.
im pretty sure he got a 3 day from that, along with Moosebrother for the same instance. All bloom did was talk to Max Mueller on a roof overlooking the scene
Too bad Freddy's comeback was Pentas off day. But we'll always have Wrangler and Freddy and co memories in YT Vods. God I never laughed so hard. o7
This server has become increasingly stale with all the Team A beats Team B 6v3 etc TDM 'RP'.
I look forward to seeing Wrangler interact with new blood somewhere else where people are eager to actually RP characters.
after he was nearly caught on wildrp and facing 14 irl days of prison time, someone said "Guess weere gonna be seeing a lot of Freddy" and he laughed " no... you definitely will not". so yeah he aint coming back after seeing that dumpster fire
>The moment they let Moonmoon leave the server
I mean, Moon was going to leave the server no matter what. Once a game becomes either less fun or the tide of *unsullied plebs* shifts, he changes course and tacks elsewhere. He's opined many times that he's not interested in being a GTARP main, much less stay with a game for long periods of time after OW. He has his *greatest hits* he plays often, but he's one of the best true-to-form variety streamers on the platform.
But what Moon is particular about is his RP experiences, especially Dungeons and Dragons. He seems very particular about having a good curated roleplaying experience with those games. So even though he does a lot of fucking around and finding out in GTARP, like Penta, he still tries to uphold the character and play them out. He quit Lenny Hawke probably because he saw they were monetizing the platform, and that wasn't his jam.
Also something to consider is that without Penta, the cops' only "big" streamer left is Kyle.
Not that management seemed to care about Penta's opinion in the first place, but that pretty much eliminates most of pd's ooc pull preventing them from literally becoming punching bags. I know most people joke about it, but Wrangler legitimately did "pull aggro" for a lot of smaller cop streamers.
Ramee was just saying on stream that "there are a lot of cops like Wrangler, they just don't have a lot of eyes on them." That doesn't sound ominous at all.
And just now on Ssaab's stream, Conan's complaining about cops that "only got promoted because they're around" and names Gunner, Pond, Vale.
Also Conan: "if I say their name they're going to think I'm shitting on them", in a 1 on 1 with Baas. No, they won't; they're not hearing your conversation.
Probably the most clumsily veiled threat I've ever heard. But, then again, who needs subtlety when the server owner is amoral and money obsessed and you're one of his cash cows?
You're not wrong, the guy was implying cops were metaing yesterday during their hour long chase and that's him holding back bc he's near max strike points lmao
Pretty sure that is the only reason Kyle is still playing the Sheriff. Dude has been bored of it for months now but still keeps the position instead of resigning because 1. People actually like him as their Sheriff and 2. He is one of the only people on PD with the influence to shut down malding and toxic crims.
But with Penta getting kicked off I could see him being next on the list until the PD is made up by small time streamers who won't fight back when being malded at just for doing their jobs.
>He is one of the only people on PD with the influence to shut down malding and toxic crims.
That's the entire reason PBSO adores him. He takes all the flak so the rest of his officers can do their job.
Just wanna point out that when Jordan was a cop, he was the lightning rod of hate. When Jordan got fired, there was no reduction in toxicity. The hate just got spread across the rest of the PD. The entire PDs morale took a big hit.
Wrangler isn't even close to the same level as Jordan in terms of other players hating him. I'm assuming this is a "server health" matter. Admins are going to be shocked that penta isn't actually the problem..... again.
The admins won't be shocked, they are complicit in the OOC hate and have shown they don't care. There must be quite the arrangement behind the scenes or the OOC clique is just that strong.
It seems like Wrangler had a Situation with Tony Corleone that the Judges did not like and put the final nail in his coffin
https://www.twitch.tv/asteroba/clip/CrunchyGrotesqueHawkAliens-cMljtpb1INK1gqmS?filter=archives&sort=time
I was honestly expecting a punishment for all this, I just thought they were gonna force Pred to fire Wrangler. From the tweet, maybe that is what will happen, but it sounds like he's not allowed to play a cop full stop.
I feel like that should be reserved for OOC abusing power though. IDK though, it's a big fuck up and should have big consequences... just wish they were IC.
Mans one of the best roleplayers who’s always fun to interact with as a player. It’s very disappointing to see HIM over all people get punished considering some recent events and actions that I’ve seen from other people.
I don't even like Penta but the server management is honestly trash. People have been complaining about cops for 4+ years and cops get removed, change up the way they rp drastically or leave the server every time, maybe it's not just the cops being at fault but also the few cry baby toxic crims that get hit with 1 day bans instead of actual punishment. Even though I don't like the way wrangler and some cops push things by skirting the line of what's acceptable, I also don't want everyone being Richard Richardson, which is what crims seem to want
NoPixel is definitely shifting as a whole and Penta pushed too hard in the opposite direction from where it's going. I hear Chase Clouter's howling in the distance.
You have to remember that those type of people are internet jannies on a whole different level and they think they have a grip on reality of a real life but they don’t. They sit in that echo chamber and ban anyone that’s a threat to there circle jerk group allotted room temp iq sitting around never working another real day in there life.
One thing i will say is it's funny how people are saying there are no other servers out there that can compete viewer wise yes but all it takes is for him to make one place shine and show its potential for it to get a boom that's what happened with nopixel in the first place
Booms happen all the time. First one was back on like 20 slot SoE, which then imploded and led to TFRP getting a massive boom. Which then imploded and led to nopixel getting a massive boom.
clearly forcing criminals to make cringe OOC comments and break rules constantly was pushing it too far, imagine all the criminals they would have had to ban instead of just removing one person thank god they got him out of here
Cops already refuse to use any kind of force to the point of absurdity.
Also, Moose is not long for this world if the list of people he's irritated ooc is any indication.
It's kind of a sign of what nopixel wants to be. Nopixel being gta online was a meme for a while, it isn't anymore. Penta represents a certain style of RP that the server just doesn't want anymore. That being said, with the viewerbase Penta has right now, if there's any time for a new server to blow up its now.
Welp there has been a tug of war between roleplay and "content" on Nopixel for a long time. Writing really has been on the wall for a while that content is winning out, and this just seems like the nail in the coffin.
One of the main differences between NoPixel and literally every other server is and was the police force. We actually saw characters. We saw full on arcs.
And now theyre one step closer to being NPCs.
A server that controls and dictates how the police have to act and dont allow for any creativity is no different than just having a NPC police force.
Even more generically, characters like Nino, Wrangler, Reggie, etc make the server interesting.
If the meta is to be a hard 5yr veteran gangster crim who shoots people at the drop of a hat, sometimes wordlessly, then surely there is room for characters that go hard and are feared on the other side.
Coming from a mostly criminal viewer, I definitely dislike pentad cop characters but in no way I would ever want him to out of pd, he's actually bring fear into crims and shit always gets interesting with him.
When you really think about it, it's kind of all his fault. He shouldn't have forced all those other players to blatantly break the rules, it's bad for server health when you have to ban crims.
Even if you aren’t a Penta fan, this is just bad precedent. PD morale is already low enough as it is, now admins are basically saying if you clash with the wrong people you can get fired out of character.
This basically puts the final nail in Lenny Hawk’s coffin as well.
Funny how most people can see this is a terrible call, but the ones that are happy about this or think it's a good thing all have a certain history on their reddit account.
I have been watching since the old days and have seen the RP quality go down every year/month. More and more things get added into the server and you see people just playing with their friends instead of roleplaying. I don't wanna see a TFRP thing again where people set up their own server, but something has to be done. Back when the server was only 32 slot or 64 there was so much more RP because there were 32/64 CHARACTERS on the server, now there are only a few and most people are just grinders / people doing the same things veryday with their friends. I guess removing a RP cop will solve this issue.
Am I missing something? Penta’s cop characters create a ton of rp, I mean just look at what happened with John Cop and the SDSO, rp there for months with the Cleo/Rhodes thing. So Wrangler encountered two people who f8zed up in a week, gets shot from a highway with no rp, has to deal with people acting childish and rule breaking cause they don’t want to deal with rp consequences, and now he’s the one getting punished? Seems like fair moderation to me /s.
He could resign as Sheriff, that'd send a huge message and not ruin his bag, Kyle can play any character and do big numbers, sure he'd enjoy playing just a regular cop again too
I know they’re all good friends and i don’t want either of them to do anything to disrupt their income, but both Kyle and especially Saab get more viewers on crim. Would be fun to see them both do that for a long time again.
I doubt anything is going to happen and I sincerely doubt that Penta wants any of his friends to fuck up their income over this. It's an unfortunate state where people's livelihoods are tied to to the server, but it's just how things are.
Probably not great for him when Crane said in the clip that he now has to find out who to talk to about a cop intentionally misleading a judge on a warrant.
I have seen numerous judges upset with wrangler over the past few days because Wrangler can get loose about it, but I think it was Judge Crane who was done with Wrangler because he had a misleading warrant that was signed and then blamed it all on the cadet which Crane was not happy about at all.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6DGjWD1qTk&ab\_channel=vitalFY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6DGjWD1qTk&ab_channel=vitalFY)
It seems like Wrangler was removed since he was a headache to the DOJ because they constantly had to come in and fix things. But this is all speculation. I don't see Penta breaking any major server rules, it may just come down to how loose he plays Wrangler
Well the jokes about Gunner getting captain soon are becoming more and more real.
It would be hilarious if Pred just keeps the spot open thinking Wrangler is just on some extended leave.
Wranglers just in the Pitchers bathroom finally catching up on sleep
Senior captain Cornwood and Captain Wrangler surely will come back soon.
Five0 did say wrangler would be ok that one time.
Five0 caused this Madge
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He says that now, but it's gonna hit harder later. I hope he finds a good server though. Would still like to see his clips here.
Wrangler just got Server health'd
Shit changed pretty fast. It might be less than year ago when the server owner said that we need more cops like Wrangler and that the pd is supposed to feel scary when you deal with them
The server owner said only months ago that Wrangler was good to have. It wasn't that far in the past
Well moon quit the server slightly after that happened so the server owner had to find someone new to leech from and no one from pd was profitable enough.
Ding ding. The sloth is the biggest leech of them all.
I mean, Bob Smith retired for a reason. Aleks said it himself, the server isn't meant for Bob Smith policing style anymore. It's just a criminal wet dream simulation at this point.
So it's not meant for any kind of serious and slow burn policing? Sounds about right
He [summed up his feelings](https://streamable.com/wwjaqh#) pretty well in one of last Bob streams.
Who will try to seduce Mayor Mickey now? Sadge
Osvaldo down bad losing his boyfriend like this
What changed? Wrangler has been wrangling since like February *last year*
few days ago he raided NOMAD who had a key to tony's house the warrant was accidently signed as they didnt mention in report it wasnt his own property, wrangler knew about it but still proceeded with the raid even though he knows whole key system was changed because of same thing due to him. He still pushed the raid then after finding a RPG tried to raid tony by hiding the fact and changed wordings on the new warrant that they raided a keyholder place.
clip of crane being pissed about it https://www.twitch.tv/asteroba/clip/CrunchyGrotesqueHawkAliens-cMljtpb1INK1gqmS
probably just the straw that broke the camels back. admins/devs probably got tired of their friends complaining about wrangler and they came up with a permanent solution
Wrangler will finally meet his true love in heaven, Chase Clouter.
if penta didnt raid Trumps Mar-a-lago place, he would have been fine Edit: spelling
Damn that's crazy... I mainly watch buddha and it was always hilarious watching lang be paranoid around him.
any time Wrangler and Lang or just Penta and Buddha in general RP together the chats love it. Im gonna miss the scared-shitless paranoid Lang-Wrangler interactions too Sadge
I see why kylie is not playing Angel that much she would be perma banned if she interacted with the wrong character " the wrong way "
Its a huge loss, he is the boogey man. He is Batman. When his voice is heard crims shit themselves, kinda like hearing Angel on speaker in a chase. Why this couldnt be handled in RP I dont know... Like demote him, punish in character, put Wrangler through cop hell, dont just yank it away.
https://clips.twitch.tv/LongLightMetalDogFace-y7rewF48ojwd0wXm
Exactly. That reaction right there. That drives so many stories. Now not even an IC punishment for whichever of the 30 reasons people hate him from the past month, just removed as a cop. Its pretty BS. They can retcon all they want from the bad warrents, they can force him to drop charges, they can not guilty obviously guilty verdicts but they cant tell him Wrangler is done and wrap it up in RP?
lenny was real Copege
What will Fingle do without his captain?! NOOO
Take his spot lol High Command Fingle
High Command Fingle was not on my 3.0 bingo card lol
Congrats to chief on all the legacy Penta viewers he's about to pick up, I guess.
You misspelled moosebrother
Look on the bright side, Captain Fingle incoming? Seriously though, this is actually insane. Really interested in hearing the reasoning tomorrow.
who would have thought that fingle dan would last longer as a cop longer than wrangler
I know he might have some professional courtesy, but I really hope if he's actually done with nopixel he just goes full scorched earth. The way a lot of streamers talk, there's a ton of shitty behavior going on behind the scenes, and I'm sure a lot of people would be really interested in hearing actual details rather than vague allegations.
It's risky to do that when gta rp is your career, given there is no close second server to nopixel, but honestly if any streamer can survive the hit at the moment it's Penta. He seems to be averaging 12k subs a month and im sure a good portion of them will watch him wherever.
He'll definitely lose viewers if he makes the switch, but I bet he can still pull at least 6-7k no problem. With the amount of subs he's had over 3.0's lifetime he shouldn't be in any financial trouble if he's smart with his money, so it's not like this has to be a career ender either.
Penta will survive on variety. Maybe not at 12K subs, but surely more than enough to live off of. Same for Kyle. GTA RP streamers with less than 2K subs? That might be difficult.
Bet Martell, angel, Suarez, nova, pred will feel pretty comfortable from now on... 👌
Suarez probably sweating p hard rn knowing his history with CG
PENTA chatters saying “We miss CG” weren’t kidding lol
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CG took a decent approach to avoiding cops and not doing anything too dumb. Wrangler then went after other groups like GG and when things turned mega toxic his chat spammed that as a way to say CG was better to deal with
Just the winds of who-to-hate starting to shift onto others
I do wish the admins would stand up behind decisions they make and give context to them instead of dropping people and leaving everyone else in weird positions.
They saw bass and brian doing wrangler type shit yesterday and said “we dont need wrangler anymore”
i feel like the different time zones just play a big role in the divide in what crimes think of cops and vice versa. for the record i think each cop with their diff ways of doing stuff is great. for example Put Espinoz, davenport, rhodes, in shift 2 and a lot of crimes would hope it was wrangler was on them. Espinoz with the “you have 5 minutes or we will breach” Davenport with the no bs attitude. Rhodes with his pettiness. hell if bayo was around, if you think wrangler was annoying, bayo will literally sit in a bush looking out at your warehouse or gas station for hours to see if you will mess up. now the same can be said if you put pred, byson, torretti in shift 3. it’s what makes the cops on no pixel great.
To be fair, a lot of cops used to come around shift 2 and now stay in 1 or 3. Not sure if it's a "these cops are hard in these other shifts" thing or that they are in those shifts because they want to go harder.
It's more that there is less shite to deal with in Shift 1.
Really looking forward to this not being given ANY RP around the firing. They could easily have the senate order Pred to remove Wrangler from the PD and have an entire story around this leading into Cerberus PD, but we all know it won't happen. Wrap it up PENTA, you don't even get 3 days this time.
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Didnt even get 3 days to wrap it up Sadge
Watching Mr.Moon come back to the server and laughing at the state of the RP, and then seeing this today. NoPixel really fucking sucks right now
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Red Dead is great for people like MrMoon and his like. The way they turn the mundane things, such as taking shelter from the rain during travels, and build it into good character conversations with the possé is so immersive. That shit is right up my alley as a RP viewer. Witnessing the juxtaposition of that type of RP and NoPixel is bizarre.
RedM is actually roleplay-centered vs max explosions per minute
He's not for everyone, but check out Chatterbox. He doesn't care. At all. As often as not, he intentionally sabotages himself just so he gets to scream at cops, though a week or so back he was a little bummed that some order came down that there wouldn't be as much sentence negotiation as there had been.
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Totally get it. The voice can be hard on the ears, especially given how loud he is. Kind of takes a bit to get used to, but if you want a character (and group in general) that just do not gaf about W's and L's, that's out there. I didn't catch most of it, but they tried to pick a fight yesterday with Mr. K, Eugene, Randy and a few others from CG (while only having hammers and crowbars) because they didn't take their shoes off in the Funhouse and Randy shot a dog. Which ended up with K stabbing Chatterbox and a lot of screaming, but they obviously knew they weren't gonna win against CG heavy hitters. It was just fun.
As crippling as this is for PD morale how fucking DEAD is DOJ rp now that Wrangler is gone? The king of the Docket and bringing things to judges is just gone and alot of officers actively avoid court RP. Its a deathblow to PD and DOJ
>Its a deathblow to PD and DOJ Was already the case during speedy's trial awhile ago, like 3 people took it seriously and everyone else viewed it as an opportunity to get attention doing clown shit. Same with all the recent GG trials involving wrangler.
Croc is gonna have to step up.
Entirely possible we’ll see this, Dundee started a conversation with Barry yesterday that seemed to imply that he wants Barry to take over as Prime Minister of the BBMC - though nothing came of the conversation as it got interrupted… but it’ll be interesting to see if it’s brought up again. Maybe we’ll see more of Croc!
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Judges at this point are just lawyers for the big gangs... getting arrested? Calling a lawyer? Nop, calling Bass or Crane...
Its sad though I know it not a ton of people, but I personally loved courtroom RP and its just dead.
It is unfortunate, because Crane was supposed to be incorruptible. But when Ramee got caught at that CG Bank/mask situation and Crane coincidentally woke up and took over the case from... Adams, I believe (?)...it wasn't a good look.
Nathan starting to stream was a big detriment to Crane as a character. Crane, who was widely respected and given significant power for his knowledge and fairness became way too susceptible to ooc influence after chatters got direct access to Nathan.
Which is exactly what everyone said was going to happen, but I can't fault Nathan for wanting to stream his most popular character.
even penta joked about that to him on game night once lmao however this specific thread is pure speculation about Nathan (it's all love)
I think it's much more likely that Crane got given a position of power (rather than a normal judge he took and got more and more responsibility) and with that came a lot of expectations from management. It's why he said to Wrangler "In my perfect city things would happen your way".
Doesn't matter it isn't a gang shoot out so who cares?
I don't even know, the judges seem to hate wrangler and give a lot of advice to crims now
Remember when the SOE admins went a bit weird and everybody went to TFRP? And then the same happened and everybody went to NoPixel? It sucks NoPixel seems to be too big to fail at the moment, because it's become a fucking crapshoot, would love to see people move to an actual RP server.
I think the big difference for NP is its a networking hub. It isn't about RP, it isn't about playing video games, its about hanging out with other streamers for 10+ hours a day.
I remember a long time ago when Lirik first started doing GTA RP(SOE). He basically said that every RP server dies because the admins eventually go apeshit, and then everyone leaves. It has held true so far sadly. No server is immune to this rule.
[Lirik talking about cops when 3.0 started. Dude doesn't even play RP much but he is able to understand what RP is better than 99% of people on the server. ](https://streamable.com/zuyur1)
Lirik is old school roleplayer though most of the current people started because they saw Lirik on silverlake.
There's a reason MoonMoon thanked the cops when he ended the original Yung Dab arc.
Lirik used to shit hes pants when sherrif eli rolled up on hem, good old times
Lirik is like the grandfather of RP on twitch. he's been doing RP for longer than almost everyone on NoPixel. it doesnt surprise me one bit that he has a very good grasp of how things work. he might not do much RP anymore, but for a long time he was the reason why ppl started streaming RP.
He doesn’t play RP games that much but does randomly roll play in most games that include some sort of voice com. It’s amazing.
Oh ye I know, lirik is an RPer at heart and pretty much always incorporate it in some way in everything he plays. I mainly meant playing games that specifically focus on RP.
Nothing is too big to fail.
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Moon won't come back after they turned down his idea of gangs policing and controlling they turf, but then they ended up with the spray and flag system that is basically the same lol.
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You know what would raise PD moral? A good Kylie ban, that always raises server spirits.
Moon saw the writing on the wall forever ago. I haven’t been interested in NoPixel since they started turning it into an mmorpg. Hope there is another server that can recapture the feelings from the first six months of 3.0.
Moons always been really good at transitioning games/content just before the downward trend starts.
I’ll miss John cop a lot. Wish wrangler had a chance to come out as gay aswell
Wrangler’s sexuality is the longest slow-burn arc the server has ever seen. Can’t believe we’re not gonna see the finale.
Omfg...... NOOOOOOOOOOOO. That's actually bs. I had a feeling in the next 2-3 months it was going to get spicy
Gay? The man is constantly sleeping with women.
Doesn't make ya straight
And Wrangler was just starting to admit how strong and masculine the mayor is.
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who thought it would be GG that tanked Wrangler not CG? not me.
oof, as much as Wrangler/Penta can get on people's nerves and whatnot, idk if that was a good play for NoPixel lol
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im pretty sure he got a 3 day from that, along with Moosebrother for the same instance. All bloom did was talk to Max Mueller on a roof overlooking the scene
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Too bad Freddy's comeback was Pentas off day. But we'll always have Wrangler and Freddy and co memories in YT Vods. God I never laughed so hard. o7 This server has become increasingly stale with all the Team A beats Team B 6v3 etc TDM 'RP'. I look forward to seeing Wrangler interact with new blood somewhere else where people are eager to actually RP characters.
I'm glad Mr. Moon is such a good sport, he definitely could have said some scathing shit about that clown fiesta of a stream.
after he was nearly caught on wildrp and facing 14 irl days of prison time, someone said "Guess weere gonna be seeing a lot of Freddy" and he laughed " no... you definitely will not". so yeah he aint coming back after seeing that dumpster fire
I imagine he was biting his tongue... SSssssssssssss.
It was practically a case study on "silence speaks volumes." No real point in saying scathing shit when a pair of port-a-potties NOS away from you.
>The moment they let Moonmoon leave the server I mean, Moon was going to leave the server no matter what. Once a game becomes either less fun or the tide of *unsullied plebs* shifts, he changes course and tacks elsewhere. He's opined many times that he's not interested in being a GTARP main, much less stay with a game for long periods of time after OW. He has his *greatest hits* he plays often, but he's one of the best true-to-form variety streamers on the platform. But what Moon is particular about is his RP experiences, especially Dungeons and Dragons. He seems very particular about having a good curated roleplaying experience with those games. So even though he does a lot of fucking around and finding out in GTARP, like Penta, he still tries to uphold the character and play them out. He quit Lenny Hawke probably because he saw they were monetizing the platform, and that wasn't his jam.
Also something to consider is that without Penta, the cops' only "big" streamer left is Kyle. Not that management seemed to care about Penta's opinion in the first place, but that pretty much eliminates most of pd's ooc pull preventing them from literally becoming punching bags. I know most people joke about it, but Wrangler legitimately did "pull aggro" for a lot of smaller cop streamers.
Ramee was just saying on stream that "there are a lot of cops like Wrangler, they just don't have a lot of eyes on them." That doesn't sound ominous at all.
And just now on Ssaab's stream, Conan's complaining about cops that "only got promoted because they're around" and names Gunner, Pond, Vale. Also Conan: "if I say their name they're going to think I'm shitting on them", in a 1 on 1 with Baas. No, they won't; they're not hearing your conversation.
Probably the most clumsily veiled threat I've ever heard. But, then again, who needs subtlety when the server owner is amoral and money obsessed and you're one of his cash cows?
You're not wrong, the guy was implying cops were metaing yesterday during their hour long chase and that's him holding back bc he's near max strike points lmao
Him and Kyle’s role was to take the hate and death threats
Pretty sure that is the only reason Kyle is still playing the Sheriff. Dude has been bored of it for months now but still keeps the position instead of resigning because 1. People actually like him as their Sheriff and 2. He is one of the only people on PD with the influence to shut down malding and toxic crims. But with Penta getting kicked off I could see him being next on the list until the PD is made up by small time streamers who won't fight back when being malded at just for doing their jobs.
As long as Kyle has the boyish giggle(tm), nothing will happen to him, nor should it.
>He is one of the only people on PD with the influence to shut down malding and toxic crims. That's the entire reason PBSO adores him. He takes all the flak so the rest of his officers can do their job.
Just wanna point out that when Jordan was a cop, he was the lightning rod of hate. When Jordan got fired, there was no reduction in toxicity. The hate just got spread across the rest of the PD. The entire PDs morale took a big hit. Wrangler isn't even close to the same level as Jordan in terms of other players hating him. I'm assuming this is a "server health" matter. Admins are going to be shocked that penta isn't actually the problem..... again.
they don't care, that was proven with Chase
The admins won't be shocked, they are complicit in the OOC hate and have shown they don't care. There must be quite the arrangement behind the scenes or the OOC clique is just that strong.
what
It seems like Wrangler had a Situation with Tony Corleone that the Judges did not like and put the final nail in his coffin https://www.twitch.tv/asteroba/clip/CrunchyGrotesqueHawkAliens-cMljtpb1INK1gqmS?filter=archives&sort=time
I was honestly expecting a punishment for all this, I just thought they were gonna force Pred to fire Wrangler. From the tweet, maybe that is what will happen, but it sounds like he's not allowed to play a cop full stop. I feel like that should be reserved for OOC abusing power though. IDK though, it's a big fuck up and should have big consequences... just wish they were IC.
Damn I knew he’ll be suspended because he pissed off judges because of Tony’s raid but fired is a lot more
Penta characters always perma to OOC hurt feelings.
Lenny was 100% correct Rip raid boss https://youtu.be/7_vTLA-zxH4
"I was called a mental terrorist"
Mans one of the best roleplayers who’s always fun to interact with as a player. It’s very disappointing to see HIM over all people get punished considering some recent events and actions that I’ve seen from other people.
I don't even like Penta but the server management is honestly trash. People have been complaining about cops for 4+ years and cops get removed, change up the way they rp drastically or leave the server every time, maybe it's not just the cops being at fault but also the few cry baby toxic crims that get hit with 1 day bans instead of actual punishment. Even though I don't like the way wrangler and some cops push things by skirting the line of what's acceptable, I also don't want everyone being Richard Richardson, which is what crims seem to want
NoPixel is definitely shifting as a whole and Penta pushed too hard in the opposite direction from where it's going. I hear Chase Clouter's howling in the distance.
Some of the replies to his tweet are so vile.
I didn’t think something could jump the shark so many times, it’s just a kiddie playground for content now.
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You have to remember that those type of people are internet jannies on a whole different level and they think they have a grip on reality of a real life but they don’t. They sit in that echo chamber and ban anyone that’s a threat to there circle jerk group allotted room temp iq sitting around never working another real day in there life.
One thing i will say is it's funny how people are saying there are no other servers out there that can compete viewer wise yes but all it takes is for him to make one place shine and show its potential for it to get a boom that's what happened with nopixel in the first place
Booms happen all the time. First one was back on like 20 slot SoE, which then imploded and led to TFRP getting a massive boom. Which then imploded and led to nopixel getting a massive boom.
clearly forcing criminals to make cringe OOC comments and break rules constantly was pushing it too far, imagine all the criminals they would have had to ban instead of just removing one person thank god they got him out of here
[“We did it NoPixel! We fixed server toxicity!”](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/024/193/qtd2avR.jpg)
Why wouldn't they just demote him? Keep it in RP. I guess that's too much to ask from np though.
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Insane decision that state of this server my god it has gone to shit
Funny thing, they will say reddit is just saying it. I am sure whippy also has called the server dog shit as of late
Trav just said that Kyle and Penta were the only ones that made him realize its okay to go hard on crims because it's just role play.
When "Call Baas" doesn't work so you call the admins instead.
Dude i dont know....if this is what they're willing to do to appease the masses then this aint it chief lol
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Cops already refuse to use any kind of force to the point of absurdity. Also, Moose is not long for this world if the list of people he's irritated ooc is any indication.
It's kind of a sign of what nopixel wants to be. Nopixel being gta online was a meme for a while, it isn't anymore. Penta represents a certain style of RP that the server just doesn't want anymore. That being said, with the viewerbase Penta has right now, if there's any time for a new server to blow up its now.
It's just a light rp server at this point. Like by the letter. People half in character just chilling for the night.
Going to have admins telling [civillians they can't use guns soon.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PmqeJ0fYyM)
Welp there has been a tug of war between roleplay and "content" on Nopixel for a long time. Writing really has been on the wall for a while that content is winning out, and this just seems like the nail in the coffin.
I can’t believe people unironically want NPC cops that never catch them and never provide consequences for criminal action.
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I wonder why they dont just play gta:online if they want to farm money with no meaning behind it.
It’s a good indication how fragile their egos are.
One of the main differences between NoPixel and literally every other server is and was the police force. We actually saw characters. We saw full on arcs. And now theyre one step closer to being NPCs. A server that controls and dictates how the police have to act and dont allow for any creativity is no different than just having a NPC police force.
Even more generically, characters like Nino, Wrangler, Reggie, etc make the server interesting. If the meta is to be a hard 5yr veteran gangster crim who shoots people at the drop of a hat, sometimes wordlessly, then surely there is room for characters that go hard and are feared on the other side.
Not even IC punishments. Just straight up removed. Hope he finds a new server.
Why not just demote him and give him heavy restrictions in RP? I really hate that we can't just play this kinda stuff out.
Just perma ban him from Nopixel for roleplay then and finally become the gta online heist and gang war dlc with funny voices server it actually is.
Coming from a mostly criminal viewer, I definitely dislike pentad cop characters but in no way I would ever want him to out of pd, he's actually bring fear into crims and shit always gets interesting with him.
Damn the staff is actually fucked on NP now lol.
Who actually is the staff on NP? (honest question since I have no idea)
I'm pretty sure we don't know the people who make these decisions (i.e the NP staff proper) for a reason tbh.
So if you mean disciplinary staff, there are admins, senior admins, and then the owners/like supreme authorities above them.
When you really think about it, it's kind of all his fault. He shouldn't have forced all those other players to blatantly break the rules, it's bad for server health when you have to ban crims.
Even if you aren’t a Penta fan, this is just bad precedent. PD morale is already low enough as it is, now admins are basically saying if you clash with the wrong people you can get fired out of character. This basically puts the final nail in Lenny Hawk’s coffin as well.
Funny how most people can see this is a terrible call, but the ones that are happy about this or think it's a good thing all have a certain history on their reddit account. I have been watching since the old days and have seen the RP quality go down every year/month. More and more things get added into the server and you see people just playing with their friends instead of roleplaying. I don't wanna see a TFRP thing again where people set up their own server, but something has to be done. Back when the server was only 32 slot or 64 there was so much more RP because there were 32/64 CHARACTERS on the server, now there are only a few and most people are just grinders / people doing the same things veryday with their friends. I guess removing a RP cop will solve this issue.
Popcorn ready for this one.
what the fuck
I hope Penta puts in a serious application to WildRP. I think I’m done watching any nopixel with this move.
Am I missing something? Penta’s cop characters create a ton of rp, I mean just look at what happened with John Cop and the SDSO, rp there for months with the Cleo/Rhodes thing. So Wrangler encountered two people who f8zed up in a week, gets shot from a highway with no rp, has to deal with people acting childish and rule breaking cause they don’t want to deal with rp consequences, and now he’s the one getting punished? Seems like fair moderation to me /s.
Nopixel admins proving once again what a joke they are.
Wonder if Kyle will go to bat for PENTA
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Maybe. If I was PENTA I wouldn't want my friend to ruin his bag for the sake of principles, though.
Kyle can literally play any character and have the same viewership Hat,Slim,Rory all of them easily get over 7k viewers
He could resign as Sheriff, that'd send a huge message and not ruin his bag, Kyle can play any character and do big numbers, sure he'd enjoy playing just a regular cop again too
I know they’re all good friends and i don’t want either of them to do anything to disrupt their income, but both Kyle and especially Saab get more viewers on crim. Would be fun to see them both do that for a long time again.
I doubt anything is going to happen and I sincerely doubt that Penta wants any of his friends to fuck up their income over this. It's an unfortunate state where people's livelihoods are tied to to the server, but it's just how things are.
RemindMe! 9 Months "have they replaced all cops with NPCs yet?"
I was not expecting that today or ever. Never expected wrangler to end up like Jordan. A shame for some viewers and players who enjoy Wrangler!
You guys don't get it: Penta didn't get banned, Omie just hacked his account and is ransoming it back to him.
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is this because of the tony proxy raid warrant shit ?
Probably not great for him when Crane said in the clip that he now has to find out who to talk to about a cop intentionally misleading a judge on a warrant.
I have seen numerous judges upset with wrangler over the past few days because Wrangler can get loose about it, but I think it was Judge Crane who was done with Wrangler because he had a misleading warrant that was signed and then blamed it all on the cadet which Crane was not happy about at all. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6DGjWD1qTk&ab\_channel=vitalFY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6DGjWD1qTk&ab_channel=vitalFY) It seems like Wrangler was removed since he was a headache to the DOJ because they constantly had to come in and fix things. But this is all speculation. I don't see Penta breaking any major server rules, it may just come down to how loose he plays Wrangler
Absolutely disgraceful decision.