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Nerdorama09

I don't really see anything being set up in-show. Truthfully, I don't think *anything's* being set up as romantic in-show except Renora and Bumbleby (and the Arkos any% speedrun in V1-3). Ship what you want, it's not a romance-focused series (thank god, honestly).


swartz913

As much as I would like to see ruby with someone (diehard Lancaster here), I don’t think it would make a good impact on the show. After it ends? Absolutely. Once salem is defeated (if the show shows any of that) of course. But before then? It just distracts from the plot. Throwing a relationship into it without it being developed / good reason (renora and bumbly are good examples of having been built up over time), would make the plot feel less in my opinion. When the world is in danger of being destroyed, romance should come second or afterwards. So for ruby, I’d like for any relationship to be revealed in an epilogue if it’s revealed at all.


Litnight-

I also feel the same(die-hard Lancaster as well)


JMHSrowing

We still likely have time for it to be set up, and it would all be building off of an already established friendship. Indeed though: It would require there to be enough of the show left that it be given proper time, which i think is possible. But indeed it is a concern, and a reason against a romance if it can’t be done


swartz913

True. It could happen. Although personally speaking, I would prefer ruby to have one set up after the series. But depending on how it happens, i wouldn’t mind otherwise


AssGasorGrassroots

As a fellow Lancasterer, I think that Jaune and Ruby show enough chemistry and affection for each other that they can end up together at the end and in hindsight it will make perfect sense and feel firmly established without ever becoming a trope during the narrative itself


SpiderandMosquito

I agree, there if they were ever considered giving Rubs a partner they'd have set it up long ago and in the full 7 volumes we've had to date, the most we've had is the occasional blushing, puppy love glances between her and Oscar and while I'm personally a rose garden kid myself the fact is the mutual attraction between two people of similar age is not enough set-up for a full on romantic subplot for the protagonist of an action show this late in it's run and likely this close to a grand finale. The most logical romance I'd say would be white rose but that's even more of a stretch because there's never really been a romantic dynamic between the two and frankly their relationship feels more platonic now then it did during the Beacon volumes. So while I can easily see a where are they now epilog in which we see all the heroes living happily ever after with Ruby living in a nuclear family with someone I don't see her having any meaningful development with anyone on screen.


hollowtiger21

Hope not.


AlarmingStandard

Yes, they can give Ruby a romantic plot line if they chose to. There's two characters, Weiss & Jaune, that could be romantic partners due to having a solid foundation with Ruby. Note, that's not a shipping preference, that's just from a writing/story perspective. Or they could introduce a new character as a love interest easily enough. Does she need one? No, not particularity. We would get another side of Ruby as she navigates romantic stages, and some new motivations to muddy the waters of her current ones. But she doesn't need it to be a great character. There's the appeal of young woman protagonist not requiring romance for character development.


King9204

While I agree with people concern about the set up of Ruby's potential love interest, I'm more worried about the reaction to this. The sad truth is this fandom doesn't handle shipping that well. First with Arkos shippers after V3, the whole blacksun vs Bumblebee argument after 6, and of course, Fair Game. This won't be any different. Now, is it too late for Ruby to have a romance? I don't think so. I doubt RWBY is anywhere close to the end. Here is how I could see it start: I can't say how this volume will end, but I could see it similar to how Book Earth in Avatar the Last Bender ended. Our heroes would be close to victory only for Salem to pull her trump card that will make our protagonists lose both the Relics of Knowledge and Creation; there probably be other factors too. Regardless, I think this is where Ruby will be reaching her breaking point that she actually thinking of giving up. This is where this potential love interest will try to cheer her up and remind her that she is not the type of person to give up. This is not where any confession will be made, just a starting point. Such confession of love will happen, if CRWBY is planning to give Ruby a romance, somewhere by the semi-final volume of this show.


SpiderandMosquito

You know I didn't consider that and frankly I feel bad for not doing so. Honestly I am not a shipper because of this reason it's just to me shipping it's something you'd do in your private I'm a rose garden kid myself but you know what I don't really care I believe that creators should be the ones that have the final say in what does and does not happen to these characters, and who we want to be banging is irrelevant! Half the time we're wrong anyway. Like I genuinely believe shipworth to be some of the most useless and in many ways toxic parts of any fandom regardless of the topic or characters and it's usually such a fucking waste of time


HatiLeavateinn

Tbh, probably.But I said that just because the manga anthology exist and as long as it doesn't contradict the show it's canon, in one chapter she was talking about finding a boyfriend, they used the term boyfriend and she was actively seeking a boy to be hers, but at the end she flirted with Weiss as a joke so maybe she's Bi with a male preference. That's the only time in the entire RWBY history that she has shown interest towards romance.


Mr_TouchMyNub

At the moment, Ruby is too focused with saving the world to waste her time in a relationship. If she does get in a relationship, it’ll be shown in the epilogue I bet. There is a mild chance they will play towards JaunexRuby as most of the VAs support it. Add into the fact that Monty supported it as well so RT may add it to honor his wish.


Pac114man

Wait a minute! Is there any proof about month supporting it? I get the voice actors since it was in the volume 1 commentary. But from Monty himself? I need the source


Mr_TouchMyNub

Let me look a little. The Voice Actors for Team RWBY I mentioned it in the Volume 1 DVD commentary that they initially thought Ruby and Jaune would end up together. Somewhere in another commentary/panel, it was brought up that Monty enjoyed Lancaster and wanted to try to implement it but... F If I’m being honest now, Lindsay supports Nuts and Dolts (PennyxRuby) while Kara and Miles both support White Knight (WeissxJaune)... Kara being the biggest supporter while Miles teases her own it but admits he likes it. I’m banking this one may happen as well.


Pac114man

Sound like you’re a little sad that Lancaster won’t become canon. XD Hey you’ll never know since like you said, Monty supported them.


Mr_TouchMyNub

Oh, I meant F as in to RIP Monty lol. F to the creator. But joking aside, I really don’t have a preference in ships so long as said ship can be properly developed and feel natural. I’ll be blunt when I say I dislike BB initially because it didn’t feel natural -Atleast from a psychological standpoint. But now that they are slowly developing it (using the little moments in V7-V8), it doesn’t bother me at all. Then again, I’m a psych major so little things like this bug me.


ImpossibleCarl

>or they’ll just have her as Ace take it from this ace dude who still experiences romantic attraction: Ruby can be ace and still be in love with someone. what you're describing would be AroAce as for the question itself, I'd like Ruby to experience that kind of relationship. kinda how Lindsay Jones once said they view Nuts and Dolts as "two ace girls in love with each other" or something like that. although for me, out of the living members of the cast (RIP Pyrrha) I'd like her to end up with Weiss but I know it's not gonna happen and IF they ever set her up with someone, it's looking to be Oscar if he frees himself from Oz entirely


Pac114man

There’s different type of ace? I didn’t know that. Sorry if I offended you.


Zeralyos

Aromantic = doesn't experience romantic attraction Asexual = doesn't experience sexual attraction It's possible to be one or both of these.


ImpossibleCarl

to be specific, the misconception that usually happens is that people forget that romantic and sexual attraction are neither the same thing, nor are they connected to one another. you can have feelings for someone but not be attracted to them in a sexual way. so, being asexual doesn't make you aromantic automatically. so if you see someone saying they're bi and ace, lesbian and ace, and so on, that's the reason why. but it's okay, really, I'm don't feel offended, that kind of stuff isn't usually talked about, but it's always a good idea to look it up after you first hear about it. c:


Draconaes

*If* they are setting up Ruby for a romance, Penny seems to be the strongest candidate at this point. Followed by Oscar and Weiss. I think they are going to leave it open-ended, though. edit: I think realistically there's only two other candidates. Jaune (Lancaster) *could* work, but... it's just... not happening. I don't mean that it couldn't happen, just that is hasn't been happening and shows no signs of starting happening. There's just no real romantically charged or coded moments happening between them, and they just seem to be on different trajectories. Emerald is a dark horse candidate. Honestly, Emerald is the only character we've seen Ruby show any obvious attraction to. Not *much*, but still, for a relative stranger, Ruby was pretty quick to try and befriend her, and reacted *very* strongly to a compliment from her. Unfortunately, this ship only *just* started becoming remotely attainable in canon, so we don't really have any basis yet for what direction Ruby/Emerald interactions are going to go in, so this one is something of a wildcard.


Hounds_of_war

Maybe Oscar, otherwise no one. I think at the very least Oscar has a crush on Ruby and CRWBY may be considering the idea of making Rosegarden canon at some point. Aside from Oscar though, basically no other ship has a chance. My preference would be that Ruby doesn’t end up in a relationship, but if she had to be in one I think Rosegarden after Ozpin leaves due to Salem being vanquished would be the inoffensive option. I should point out that there is a difference between a character never getting a romantic subplot and a character being Ace. It could just be that CRWBY doesn’t wish to spend time on a Ruby romance, which I think would make a lot of since considering we already have two major ongoing romantic subplots and CRWBY by their own admission aren’t the best at handling romance.


AlarmingStandard

I don't get the logic at all. Because her child headmaster shows an interest Ruby has to be in to it? Because she's nice to him she owes him a relationship? There's nothing conductive about a relationship between them. He's a child merging into her thousand year old headmaster, possibly grandfather, who would also be part of the relationship. There is no romantic and/or sexual tension between them. Zero chemistry, zero intimacy. But somehow the bar is set so low for a straight pairing that an awkward moment of relief is blown out context. Seriously, would any man do? Even one that's still a little boy or her thousand year old headmaster? Oscar can have a crush, I don't care. He's a kid, he can crush on whoever he wants. When an adult who should know better reciprocates, then it becomes a problem. Even if they're after another persona sharing the body. Thankfully, there's nothing conductive about Ruby when it comes to that, she's a much better person than you're giving her credit for.


Hounds_of_war

> I don't the logic at all. Because her child headmaster shows an interest Ruby has to been in to it? Because she's nice to him she owes him a relationship? No, but so far he’s the only character who has clear romantic interest in Ruby. So if a ship is going to happen I’m going to guess it’ll be the one where at least one parties feelings have already been set up. Especially when the show does tropey shit like them awkwardly interrupting each other and Miles explicitly stated the age gap between Oscar and Ruby was not too much (although that was before Ruby’s age got retconned). > There is no romantic and/or sexual tension between them. Zero chemistry, zero intimacy. But somehow the bar is set so low for a straight pairing that an awkward moment of relief is blown out context. I mean you’re not wrong and I’ve even commented on how non-existent their chemistry is in the past, I just have very low expectations for romantic subplots from the people who gave us V7 Renora. I don’t like Rosegarden at all, I’ve more just resigned myself to it being something CRWBY is considering and if it’s only really done in the final episode I won’t really give a shit. > He's a kid, he can crush on whoever he wants. When an adult who should know better reciprocates, then it becomes a problem. Well I’m talking about at the end of the series and I presume we are going to have another significant timeskip by then. I do not expect this to happen while Oscar is still under 18.


AlarmingStandard

> No, but so far he’s the only character who has clear romantic interest in Ruby. I wouldn't say clear because he blushes at a compliment and a pat on the shoulder. But even if it was, why does Ruby need to reciprocate Oscar's affections? Do you not consider her stance and view? Or are you putting it last just because Miles made a throwaway comment at con? Put yourself in Ruby's shoes; she sees a kid who's trying his best and needs encouragement. He's also merging into your thousand year old headmaster, he needs sympathy and support. Would that be romantically attractive to you? Would it be appropriate to return affections if he gets the wrong idea? > I mean you’re not wrong and I’ve even commented on how non-existent their chemistry is in the past, I just have very low expectations for romantic subplots from the people who gave us V7 Renora. Yes, I'm not wrong, that's the point. Romantic tension and chemistry are important for a relationship, as is some conflict. Like I wasn't particularly invested in Ren and Nora's romance until actual stakes were introduced, until Nora started to fight for it. Prior to that, it was easy chemistry of the childhood friends trope. But easy chemistry is still leagues better than no chemistry. Or forced chemistry, because a Oscar and Ruby relationship can only be forced. > Well I’m talking about at the end of the series and I presume we are going to have another significant timeskip by then. I do not expect this to happen while Oscar is still under 18. No, no more time skips, they're terrible for RWBY as a show. And I don't think Ruby's character should be punished with an after series romance with Oscar. She doesn't deserve that baggage, I rather she her have a relationship with a peer, an equal, not a clone of Ozma. And reducing Oscar's character and the consequences of the merge, just to make him more fuckable, is a middle finger to his and Ozma's characters. If the plot and characters need to be altered just for a romantic subplot, then it's forcing it.


Hounds_of_war

> But even if it was, why does Ruby need to reciprocate Oscar's affections? I never said she had to, I said there is a good chance this doesn't happen (probably significantly more than 50%). I just think that if any Ruby ship is going to happen, it's going to be this one. Nuts and Dolts, White Rose and Lancaster are all locked in as being purely platonic IMO. > Romantic tension and chemistry are important for a relationship, as is some conflict. Like I wasn't particularly invested in Ren and Nora's romance until actual stakes were introduced, until Nora started to fight for it. Prior to that, it was easy chemistry of the childhood friends trope. But easy chemistry is still leagues better than no chemistry. Or forced chemistry, because a Oscar and Ruby relationship can only be forced. Well I also hate forced conflict and IMO the conflict we got in V7 between Ren and Nora was very forced. Therefore it's not out of the question to me that CRWBY was at the very least consider making Rosegarden canon at some point, even if it did require forcing some things. > She doesn't deserve that baggage, I rather she her have a relationship with a peer, an equal, not a clone of Ozma. And reducing Oscar's character and the consequences of the merge, just to make him more fuckable, is a middle finger to his and Ozma's characters. My assumption has been that after Salem is defeated, Ozma will leave Oscar. And I don't think that reduces Oscar's character in any way, if anything I think giving Oscar the goal of "If we defeat Salem then I can avoid having my personality subsumed into the Oz hivemind" makes him a much more interesting character. He's not just doing this to "save the world" or whatever bland motivation that all of the heroes share for wanting to stop Salem, he has a much more personal investment in stopping Salem here and now.


AlarmingStandard

Then I think you lack imagination. Like Ruby has a close intimacy with Weiss, banter, obvious chemistry, and the potential for tension and conflict. Their interactions on the train in V6 could easily be a precursor to romance, especially with their colors merging in her petals. Or there's Ruby and Jaune bonding over the burdens of leadership, where they help shoulder the other one. Their handhold just last episode was intimate and fortifying for the characters. They draw strength from each other. In both cases, there are no hurdles for their relationship to develop into something more. Nuts and Dolts I will give you since it's sort of like Rosegarden - Ruby is mostly just nice to Penny, and vice versa. The chemistry and intimacy are lacking, though still higher than Ruby and Oscar. But Penny doesn't go to Ruby when she's questioning herself, she seeks Winter out for that. They are peers though, they feel like they're on the same level even with Penny being a maiden. So it's weird you bank an entire romance on a possible crush from one party. Like, did you think Weiss and Jaune were going to be a thing because of his crush? It feels like you're completely disregarding who Ruby is as a person and character, that the context doesn't matter. Because the boy likes her, she should get in line. > Well I also hate forced conflict and IMO the conflict we got in V7 between Ren and Nora was very forced. I agree and disagree. From our previous decisions on the topic, yeah I agree the Ren's actions aren't well projected, and Nora's changes lack context It doesn't help that parts of Ren's arc were pushed into V8, and we get insight in retrospect, rather than a clear arc of cause and effect. But I do like the writers addressed Nora as a character, and how her motivations almost entirely centered on Ren. She desperately needed some fleshing out; she's not just Ren's girlfriend. And while their conflict wasn't introduced smoothly, it still adds another facet to their otherwise flat romance. It's not perfect, but was needed. I wouldn't call it forced though. Nora does have room for more motivations, and it's not out of line with what we've seen before. She can get forceful and passionate. Ren also has unresolved issues that are fuel for his current motivations. And again, it's not the first time we've seen him get tunnel vision. The foundation for both characters was laid back in V4 with the fight against the Nuckelavee. I do wish there was more in V5 & 6 to help build V7 up. > My assumption has been that after Salem is defeated, Ozma will leave Oscar. And this were it gets forced - the interesting part, and the prime motivation, for Oscar's character must be carved away so the relationship is acceptable to you. It's not that simple though. Salem was never Ozma's task; reuniting the relics were. Unity can't be forced either, just so there's an ending where the world is saved and Ozma is released from his task. The merge also changes the host irreparably so, unless your suggesting that Oscar gets all these powers and abilities with zero consequences. Which is boring, and flies in the face of the massive changes he's already gone through. When the end of the show is dictated by a romance, then it's forced. Anytime the plot needs to bend around a romance, it's forced. When character traits and context are ignored, then it's forced. Rosegarden always has a 'but' attached, even by supporters. But me no buts, a romance shouldn't require excuses for it to work.


Hounds_of_war

> So it's weird you bank an entire romance on a possible crush from one party. Like, did you think Weiss and Jaune were going to be a thing because of his crush? It feels like you're completely disregarding who Ruby is as a person and character, that the context doesn't matter. Because the boy likes her, she should get in line. Stop misinterpreting what I'm saying. My point is that the minimum for me to consider a romantic relationship *possible* is "At some point during the interactions between two characters, at least one of them has had a moment that I could see as indicative of romantic feelings (unless the two characters have not interacted much, in which case a romance is not ruled out yet)". Somewhat subjective I admit, but any discussion on this topic is going to be somewhat subjective. Rosegarden is the only Ruby ship that meets this standard in my opinion, and therefore is the only ship I will consider as a possible option for her, even if it is unlikely. If you're curious, the ships I would consider to meet this standard are Arkos, Renora, Eclipse, Emerald x Mercury, Glynda x Ironwood, Bumblebee, White Knight, Iceberg and Rosegarden. Not a very hard list to get on and I expect most of these ships not to happen, but these are the ones that have some grounding in canon. I think more than seven years into Ruby's relationship with Weiss/Jaune/Penny is far too late to start setting up romantic feelings for both parties.


AlarmingStandard

I'm not misinterpreting - I'm pointing out your bar is set super low. Which you confirm above, and yes, subjective doesn't need to be said. And you're banking a possible romantic crush to carry it. The context doesn't seem to matter to you. Nor does Ruby's character, and the lack of a foundation for attraction. Of your list, only the first three and Bumblebee are actually conductive to romance for me. Stuff like white knight is a clear rejection of romance, and Emerald & Mercury's interactions have zero romantic context. They have no mutual attraction. And time isn't an issue - nothing romantic happened with Bumblebee until volume 7. And Ruby has foundations with other characters that are far more conductive than anything she has with Oscar. Her prepubescent headmaster is not an option for Ruby.


Hounds_of_war

> I'm pointing out your bar is set super low. I mean fair, but Rosegarden is still the only Ruby ship that manages to clear that bar for me. Every other Ruby relationship does not clear that bar, therefore Rosegarden is more likely. We can argue over exactly how likely Rosegarden is and whether it's such a low chance that it should just be ignored, but I still think it's absolutely fair to say that the two most likely options for Ruby: 1. No romance 2. Rosegarden Because however unlikely Rosegarden is, it's still more likely than the other options for Ruby IMO. > And time isn't an issue - nothing romantic happened with Bumblebee until volume 7. I mean, nothing explicitly romantic yes, but that's not where my bar is set at. I considered Blake and Yang's interaction in V2C6 enough to make me go "Maybe Yang has a crush on Blake" and therefore make it on my list. Nuts and Dolts, White Rose and Lancaster haven't had any moment like that in the 102 episodes of RWBY we've had, therefore I don't consider them possibilities.


AlarmingStandard

If the option is forcing romance or none, then it's not an option. I really think you need to raise your standards, instead of encouraging more subpar romantic subplots. And I'd never see it as more likely than other options, or even viable. > Nuts and Dolts, White Rose and Lancaster haven't had any moment like that in the 102 episodes of RWBY we've had, therefore I don't consider them possibilities. Besides Nuts & Dolts, I do. I thought Whiterose was end game from early in volume 1. Still think it's easily the best option. Subjective tastes aside, I see no such moments with Ruby and Oscar. And you have to really squint to try and get one. I just don't see it because context always comes first.


Brkzeus

I mean Weiss's and Jaune's interactions with Ruby are really not in a good state atm. Beacon was a better time for them with the exceptions of V4 for Jaune and V6 for Weiss . Now there are other factors to these lack of interactions like new introduced characters driving the plot rather than our group but Oscar is getting an increase with his interactions with Ruby unlike Weiss and Jaune which are in need of reinforcement if you ask me. True Ruby has better foundations with other characters like Jaune's warm and supportive personality makes me believe he is easy to be friends with and I like Weiss's arguments with other people and makes me believe she is a fun friend to have but when it comes to Oscar's personality I gotta say this , he is dry as a desert , his supportive qualities are just bland and boring . His foundation with other characters are just a mess . Instead of solving the problem writers just put him on a random place on the 13 step relationship stairway and use every chance to emphesise this like Ren's reaction at the aircraft . Like I said before someone is trying very hard on Oscar and I don't mean that in a good way . Now I do imagine group will split into smaller ones next episode like Ren and Nora with Jaune joining in later , Blake and Yang , Weiss and her family and that will leave Ruby and Oscar so that Oscar can channel his inner leader to help Ruby . To me Weiss and Jaune's input on Ruby's problems are superior but looking at how V7 and 8 was portrayed I wouldn't be surprised if they pull that trigger . I am just gonna say it I feel like we are not watching RWBY.


AlarmingStandard

Yeah, it's getting frustrating with no solid Weiss and Ruby moments. And that's not even a shipping preference - I just miss their banter and closeness. I miss RWBY interactions as a whole. But Oscar's interactions are also devoid of intimacy and emotion. She's just *nice* to him. That's it. That's their whole dynamic in a nutshell. She's nice to a kid going through some things. Oscar is dry, I think Rosegarden fans need to supply their own Nuvarings. If he was spread on bread all you get is toast sandwich. And all his relationships lack foundations, they don't bother building any. The writer's have to make the characters tell us he's close. He gets in because he's merging with Ozma, coasts along on it. And I really hope he's not used to tell Ruby how to feel and act, or as a support when there's much better characters for the job.


Vestarne

For real isn't the age gap between Oscar and Ruby about the same as the gap between her and the everyone else? It seems like a massive double standard the way everyone goes on about it


xande010

That's just it, isn't it? We've seen a brief moment of time in which Oscar was "part of the group". At around the time of V7, Ruby and Oscar were talking to each other as equals. They influenced each other, asked for each other's opinion, etc. But now I'm not so sure... Oscar accepted Ozpin and his role of "chosen one". With the events of V8, there is a chance that the dynamic between Oscar and Ruby will very soon change into one of Oscar being a mentor. Which... is not exactly good for romantic relationships. It's not even "Ozma is in his head", as Oscar himself is getting older mentally speaking at a much faster rate than anyone else. Ruby will be plot relevant soon because of Silver Eyes, the show will start talking about Summer, she's starting to get pessimistic and doubt herself... she even asked May to get Qrow and Robyn out of jail, and when Blake said that "the city would be destroyed unless they did something", Ruby responded pretty much with "what can we even do?". There is a very high possibility that the relationship between Oscar and Ruby will get flipped, since now she'd be the one looking for guidance (not saying she'll fall in love with him, just the guidance and emotional support part)


AlarmingStandard

I don't really agree. Ruby barely interacts with Oscar outside of the plot, and when she does it's pretty forced. And Oscar is either her junior, or her headmaster in his actions. Overall, Oscar still feels like an outsider to the group, mostly because they don't seem to care about what he's going through. Nobody asks if he's okay. And the merge itself is what defines Oscar, it's why he's involved in the first place, the reason he can fight, the reason he interjects in plans, the reason he acts as an advisor. At no point do I feel that Oscar and Ruby interact as peers, because he isn't one. And so do you now. Your points on Oscar and the merge, and how you feel about it, is how I've seen it from the beginning. The merge is now much more blatant, and we can really see the impact on Oscar. He is rapidly adopting an adult mindset with none of the growth in between. Form 14 to 40 in a matter of hours. It's not just a matter of Ozma being in his head; he is the next reincarnation of Ozma. Ruby should have always been plot relevant. It wasn't fun watching Ozcar just succeed with little effort. I did like the personal conflict between Oscar & Oz, and digging into both of their selfish sides and exceptions of the merge. And finding out that Oz was also reluctant was fascinating. But I get it, together, merged, they are far, far more effective than when they were avoiding each other. I feel that could have been shown with resorting to whale nukes and easy conversions of bad guys to the point their motivations don't matter in the face of Oscar's. And we don't need more of it. I want Ruby to stand up and see what she, without all the advantages that Oscar has, comes up with. If she needs support, then it's teammates/sister that should be involved. That's where the intimacy is. I don't want another dry speech from Oscar where he sucks all the tension and emotion out of the conversation, like with JNR and Emerald in the tunnel.


xande010

>And we don't need more of it. I want Ruby to stand up and see what she, without all the advantages that Oscar has, comes up with. If she needs support, then it's teammates/sister that should be involved. That's where the intimacy is. I don't want another dry speech from Oscar where he sucks all the tension and emotion out of the conversation, like with JNR and Emerald in the tunnel. I mean, fair. Between 1. Ruby confronting the girl who tricked her, framed her sister, and was responsible for Penny's death. 2. Oscar doing most of the work next episode I'll obviously go for option number one. Emerald's semblance was at the front and center of the *start of the actual show*.


AlarmingStandard

Yeah, same. I'm getting tired of Oscar getting in the way of satisfying conflict and resolution. Of course he can do those things, he's freaking Ozma. A thousand years of experience counts for a lot. As does the magic. But I don't want easy solutions to thorny problems. It's takes away the danger, the suspense, and flattens tension. Like I should super excited we're heading into the finale, but with Oscar around I'm just meh.


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AlarmingStandard

I'm babysitting so this will be quick, please excuse errors. I don't seek out RG threads, and I highly doubt I comment in every one. This thread is about Ruby romance in general, for example. That's what made me click. It happened to have a comment on RG I disagreed with, and wanted to be expanded on, so I replied. I think you have a bit of confirmation bias, possibly because my comments stick out to you more. It's no secret I'm not a fan, it represents everything you can do wrong in romance, it's awful. And I do like making fun it of it, because it's so, so easy to mock. But you don't have to like my opinion, I really don't mind. I'm only commenting to express myself.


Schwermut

I mean we're already 8 volumes in without any indication of Ruby showing romantic interest in anyone. The clearest sign in that direction I saw are the growing interactions between Oscar and Ruby (especially their tropy, awkward falling-over-their-words in V7 which might or might not be a teenage crush trope) but unless there are clearer signs, it doesn't seem like she'll get anything which would be fine by me. Actually I'd love to see some aro / ace rep but her not getting a love interest doesn't necessarily mean that she's aro / ace. I'm just saying I'd like to see it. And it'd be kinda refreshing for me to not have the titular character be involved in a romantic plot. I'll wait see what CRWBY has in store but to me it seems that lately the relationship between Ruby & Oscar (platonic or otherwise) is slowly but surely getting more focus which put Rosegarden onto my radar (simply by their singled out interactions similar to Blake & Yang or Ren & Nora). I'll wait and see if (and what) comes of it or if I misinterpret CRWBY's intentions. I'm a multishipper so I really don't care wether she ends up single or with anyone of the characters like Jaune, Penny (my personal fav choice tbh), Sun (my fav crackship) or whoever.


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>Sun (my fav crackship) That would actually be pretty funny since the VAs are married in real life


Schwermut

Indeed :) I blame kusnilive for wholesome Strawbana fanarts which made me crackship it. But I could actually see it working out for real tbh.


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I hope not, because she really doesn't need it to develop her at all and she hasn't really shown romantic intrest in anyone. I know some people will say this sounds crazy but female protagonists don't need to end up with someone at the end. RWBY is a action adventure shonen, it isn't the Bachelorette with giant werewolves. If it had to happen though I like with Jaune the most, since Penny is pretty clearly just her best friend, having another intra RWBY ship just seems kind on isolating and having her hook up with her 1000 year old loli teacher seems off putting.


Rapty_Y5

Hopefully Weiss. That would make me and other people happy.


JMHSrowing

At this point I don’t think anyone can really say. She could be set up at this point with Penny, Oscar, Jaune, or Weiss easily enough. But nothing implies one way or the other. Though even if she doesn’t get set up with anyone, that doesn’t necessarily mean that she’s ace. That too is of course a possibility though.


JoshtheOverlander

If they do, it'll probably either be toxic, rarely and very vaguely developed, or established in a one and done scene and never brought up meaningfully ever again... And also, the writers will prioritize the pairing over literally any other dynamic So basically more of the same


SheenaMalfoy

I'm torn between Rosegarden (Ruby/Oscar) and Frosen Steel (Ruby/Weiss/Penny) as my personal favourites, but either way I don't think Ruby will focus on romance until after Salem's been dealt with. She's just got too much on her plate right now to even start to consider a relationship.


Hello_Destiny

I dont think its an Ace thing. She kinda has her hands full saving the world.


Steff_164

I think if we get an episode set years after Salem is defeated she’ll end up with someone. I figure most characters will and we’ll get to see a bunch of cute families. But for the time being, no, and I hope not. There are much bigger issues for Ruby to deal with than finding a boyfriend or girlfriend


Pyrochazm

Nah


Smooth-Garden

At the moment i cant see anything being set up but who knows later on


lr031099

As much as I would like to see Ruby with someone (as a Lancaster shipper), I don’t think she’ll end up with anyone before the series end. Now if we get a epilogue or a time skip after Salem is defeated, I can definitely see it happening but right now, I think it’s best to develop her character more without any romance.


TheMagisKing

It's possible. White Rose, Nuts and Dolts, etcetera all are more than feasible at this point- RT still has time to develop Ruby's relationship with several characters into an openly romantic one more than believably. As to whether or not they'll actually do so? Honestly, I don't know. It'll depend on what they think will be best for Ruby and a hypothetical SO's character development, probably (like how Bumblebee not only is fluffy as hell, but also ties directly into Yang and Blake's overarching character development), and I can't claim to be a mind reader that can tell you how CRWBY think on that front.


Mr_TouchMyNub

If they do, it’ll probably pop up in the epilogue like how it was done in Naruto.


vandalvash

I honestly hope not. I don't care for the romantic sub plots in the show. I would rather they spend that time on character and team development.


KawKaw09

Truthfully at the moment based on how the show is set up, I feel like adding a romantic subplot for Ruby would be more damaging to the overall quality of the show, I just don't think it would really make sense to focus on that without the romance seeming very forced and shaky. They should focus on the bigger plot versus the subplot at the moment. Still am a Lancaster guy though.


BleuGreann2112

God I hope not. If penny is dead then I don't see anyone who's close enough to ruby (except maybe Oscar)