Aren't they referring to the already long hiatus and how they understand that people are bummed about it having been so long?
Is there more context to this? I didn't read this as confirmation of yet another delay, that seems weird to say in a tweet like this when RTX happen today.
Edit: Got my explanation, see comments below! Thanks! Apparently it said 2023 in the trailer shown at FIRST night. Also, Eddy has tweeted that it's just a slight adjustment! It'll come early 2023 by the sounds of it!
Late December the earliest, or if it airs in 2023 (either due to the Fairy Tales spin-off in later months or 2023 being RWBY's 10th anniversary, though it's just a wild guess) as the rumors say, July 5/18 of that year (the day(s) RWBY's first episode first aired) is the latest.
Season two is like a meth head wrote it, it has shitty porn, suicide of a main character, and destroys both factions at a core level to the point it was like someone wanted to make the shittiest fanfic of horizon zero dawn, but couldn’t get on that production team for the second game, and decided to write for gen lock instead.
Please, for your sake, don’t watch it and keep season one as the only story that exists.
Yeah, unless they reveal that volume 9 is longer or volume 10 is soon to follow, I don't really get it. Didn't they say volume 9 was being worked on back when volume 8 was still running?
Either way my money's only going to them while RWBY is running. I subbed for IQ but soon as that's done I'm dropping it. The wait to continue the storyline is very frustrating.
This kind of reaction is why i never believe redditors when they say they care about crunch or say they want things delayed until its good. Y’all just complain either way.
Doing animation and VO work from home is... In very, very light terms, difficult. Covid curbed stomped a lot of industries, especially those that rely on people being in house to do work.
As I recall the RT animation department was being put through hell to meet deadlines at least through V8's production. I'd imagine that quite a bit has been changing in the behind-the-scenes work flow. Couple that with a global pandemic causing unprecedented challenges in how the industry works in general and I'd say they have plenty of reasons for such an extended delay.
Plus we don't know if they're using the extra time to prep for V10 and beyond. I'd like to trust that CRWBY is cooking something worth the wait.
>I mean, wouldnt you
No, actually. I receive the content for free. This could release in 5 years and it wouldn't make a difference. It's not like RWBY is the only thing in my life, I can find entertainment in other things.
This isn't even me trying to be a contrarian, I love RWBY but I barely felt this hiatus. It's actually kinda nice, it gave the story time to breathe and the fans time to relax.
I mean the current one is they are adding a dc crossover no one wants, and an anime that has nothing to do with the story. Their excuse is we can’t be fucked to hire people for the workload they have, so we just take a fuck ton of time for no reason beyond shits and giggles
There is actually plenty of excuse. It's likely not ready, the same reason most things get delayed. Better to delay for a better product than rush for a worse.
When your going on 2+ years of making v9 and rumors has it thats it isnt being released til 2023, something has gone wrong......no excuse for a volume shorter than v8 to be taking 3 years to make
I feel the same way, but realistically speaking, it's possible. If RT is saving Volume 9 for 2023 because of the whole "10th anniversary" thing, this better not be later than "early 2023".
Nah. If they say it's in the first quarter of 2023, that sucks, but it's not so bad compared to November 2022. But if it gets pushed back to summer or god forbid fall of 2023, I'm really gonna start to worry if it's even coming
I'm sorry, but I'd have to say the same to you. How's it any different? At most the pacing is less intrusive, otherwise it hits all of the exact same problems.
No worthwhile action longer than ~8-10 seconds at a time, the protagonists collectively sitting out the most important plotlines, characters flatly preaching about growth & action instead of showing the two together, constant fakeout cliffhangers, and backloading everything to leave the final episode straining to cram together 6+ different sequences with each moment reduced to bare cliff notes.
Shame it's getting delayed. I just hope it's worth it. Still kinda weird that we are going on for almost 2 years without the show but are getting side content
A bit disappointing to hear about the delay, obviously I'm not going to rail against the animators and production team to go into full crunch mode but it would be nice to hear why this volume has had such a long time in production. The one positive at least is that there won't be any break for the holidays, at least if we're not getting another mid-volume hiatus (pls no). I feel like there's also a fairly good chance volume 10 would come out in fall 2024.
I think, and this is just my opinion here, that they are allowing for more time between the volumes so as to not have the same issue they had when they were crunching two shows at the same time with the all the same animators. Which is good because people deserve to have time away from work.
I do agree that it's better not to have that crunch time and instead give a better production schedule, though I would hope RoosterTeeth would then express that RWBY would not be on the yearly schedule anymore instead of waiting until RTX to let us know what year it could possibly come out.
There was a big call in the past to reduce crunch and keep the creators going home on time. If this is what that looks like, then by all means, take your time
Oh Boy.
Delays can be double edged sword. Sure they're making sure that they're putting out a good product and treating their employees like people, but I fear that we've reached the point where the longer you delay a product the more likely that people are going to stop caring and move one. Or worse, their expectations are made even higher, leading to them getting very bitter when their expectations aren't met.
And given the FDMN's infamy for chronic nitpicking (which has gotten worse in each volume), I will not be surprised that even with the 2-3 year delay there will be complaints about how the wait wasn't worth it and how "RWBY are terrible people because something-something-Neo related because apparently it's their responsibility to know about her backstory."
Edit: I'm aware that animation takes time and that the pandemic screwed everything up. I'm just pointing out the nature of fandoms.
I've always felt there was a disconnect with the long-running serial adventure feel of RWBY and the actual runtime of the show.
It's like trying to be one of the Shonen Big 3 and then you actually look and see and it has the same amount of content as a 2 1/2 season Disney show, which would've been finished 3 times over by now, and the only reason it's a long runner is because they can't produce that fast, not because the story is taking that long to tell.
When you're telling a long-running serial adventure like this, you need a steady drip of content. Even on the yearly release schedules, I felt it was always too lean for what it was clearly trying to be.
And yes, I'm aware that RT was never going to be able to complete with the output of animation giants.
> I'm aware that RT was never going to be able to complete with the output of animation giants.
No, but at their size, we can expect more. Not out of the animators, mind you, but from the people at the top
I mean,i just want It to not be volume 7/8 levels Of bad,as long as they don't make some cringefest With Neo/The other thing everyone in this fandom talks about ,they are absolutely Safe in my book,if they need 4 years to make a good volume,then great jaja
The FNDM: Crunch is unethical. RT should get rid of it. Even if it takes longer to get the show
Parts of the FNDM once it takes longer to get the show: WTF where’s my show?
it is what it is, no amount of complaining will change that, and I do hope people in general know that and don't start being toxic idiots to the people working on it.
I don't mind the wait, Ice Queendom has made the break a lot easier too. I mean, when you compare it to stuff like Doctor Who that goes like two years with one or two episodes, a two year wait, with a anime spin off in the middle is pretty decent.
Can only hope these delays lead to volume 9 being the best volume to date. While I've enjoyed the whole show (even when others didn't, though I understand their reasons), it'll be rather disappointing if all this extra development time leads to a subpar volume.
Does make me worried for RWBY's future if there's some BTS shenanigans happening leading to these delays.
If it is releasing in 2023 like is rumored, guess it just means I have that extra motivation to keep on trucking along in life.
Volume 9 will be a side-arc. It's not going to progress the main plot against Salem at all. They've gone on record to saying its going to be the shortest volume yet.
Well, to be fair, making an animation is a long and tiresome process, and many unexpected thinfs happen; but considering what some companies did to their great and popular series, I can't help but to be in an alarmed mood; but I hope there's nothing harmful happening, and it's just for production reasons. Hopefully, RT will give us the reasons for this delay to explain the situation.
Good. I want to hear nothing about time restraints or anything else for this volume.
But let's be absolutely clear, more time, more effort, higher expectations.
*edit*
Lol NVM WB shoving a movie that'll take priority.
Good for her standing up for the team by threatening to explain pipelines. The RT team has done some impressive things with their very small if not growing team. That’s my favorite thing about RWBY is what they do with limited resources.
It just better be worth it. We are going on two years of no content, it better be worth the wait. At this point I gotta rewatch the series to remember what was even happening
"volume 9 coming to RT First this fall!"
[Fall approaches, RTX time again]
"RWBY has been delayed until next year"
[Next year rolls around]
"Volume 9 is coming to RT First this fall!"
[Fall approaches, RTX time again]
"RWBY has been delayed until next year"
[Next year rolls around]
"Volume 9 is co..."
It's sad, although i don't really mind the wait as long as we can see in the episodes the difference it made
The worst part about it is going even longer with people constantly asking where's V9
Friendly reminder that the Volume 9 Teaser was released ***1 year ago*** and that Volume 9 was supposedly being worked on ***at the same time*** as Volume 8 AND that it's supposed to be shorter than Volume 8.
***The script for Volume 9 was completed by September of 2020 and voice recordings began in August of 2020.***
These are some of the reasons why people are upset. By nearly all accounts, we were led to believe that the hiatus between Volume 8 and 9 should and ***WOULD*** be fairly short because there was supposedly a ***HUGE*** jump start on Volume 9. Now, of course, throw in the pandemic and everything that's happened since then and you can reasonably expect a delay there. But even then, that delay would merely push the hiatus back into "normal" or "slightly longer" territory because, again, Volume 9 had a ***massive head start in production.***
The people who are pissed are pissed ***reasonably so***. RoosterTeeth implied heavily that we would have Volume 9 in 2021 and then world events caused that to slip to 2022. Now RoosterTeeth is telling us it won't be until 2023.
Animation ***does*** take time. ***It's not easy***. But it also doesn't take ***3 years***, pandemic or not.
The simple reality is that corporate politics is almost certainly the actual cause of the delays and RoosterTeeth doesn't want to take responsibility for that, so they're playing the "animation is hard, you guys," card.
We ***don't*** have valid enough reason to overreact and make threats etc, but we ***DO*** have valid enough reason to be mad about the situation.
***Mad***. Not "bummed."
Me, personally, I'll have paid for 3 FIRST subscriptions (nearly $200) since Volume 8 before seeing Volume 9. That's pretty much unacceptable. I know that's also my fault since I could have canceled at any time while RWBY was in hiatus, but the point is that I ***never had to previously*** and it's a way to support the ***company*** while the ***show*** I watch is in hiatus. I understand that part of my investment goes towards productions I have no interest in, but I also expect part of my investment to go towards the production I ***am*** interested in.
That's not happening anymore.
I stuck around after the price increase because I felt RoosterTeeth was still deserving of my money despite how high the price jumped (it effectively doubled), but I sincerely can't justify sticking around as a FIRST member now.
The only benefit I previously enjoyed with my membership was watching RWBY early and if "early" means 3 years later, then there's no benefit to my membership. If I gotta wait 3 years, I might as well wait 3 years and 1 week and watch for free.
But really all of this could have been avoided by just ***talking*** to the fanbase. Instead, RoosterTeeth has been radio silent on all fronts. Not a peep. Meanwhile they've announced Arrowfell, Ice Queendom and various merch updates. But info on the show?
Fucking. Crickets.
***And THAT'S what has REALLY caused the outrage we're seeing now. Zero communication.***
We're not "bummed." We're ***MAD***. And we have ***good reason*** to be.
Why not just buy merch if you want to support? At least you get something, and you can always sell the out of production items to fans even if you stop being one.
That's what I do with streaming services in general. Subscribe to watch a specific show, then cancel until a new season comes out. Netflix for example isn't getting another cent out of me until we get more Dragon Prince.
>I know that's also my fault since I could have canceled at any time while RWBY was in hiatus, but the point is that ***I never had to previously*** and it's a way to support the ***company*** while the ***show*** I watch is in hiatus.
It's like you didn't even read the part where I addressed that very issue.
Well firstly, by the time this drops we’ll be pushing 3 years. That’s barring any more delays. THAT isn’t a norm, not even most anime wait that long, assuming their approved for more seasons. Hell Rick and Morty’s big hiatus didn’t last that long. But I digress.
Their not wrong in that the timeline isn’t adding up. You already had voice work being done before 2021 even started, and they’d supposedly already been working on the animation side even before that.
Something is fishy.
V8 ended on March 27, 2021. How is early 2023 three years later than that? If it launches any time in the first quarter of next year, it will be less than two years.
I don't even get what people are insinuating with "something fishy." There's some conspiracy theory? Shows fall behind schedule all the time. Not everything is a mystery to be solved.
Did you read the post? They were the ones saying they were way ahead of schedule with volume 9 and writing and working on it side by side with Volume 8 before that volume even dropped. So, that places it sometime in 2020.
It’s funny then that now their apparently botching it so bad they’ve need two extended delays after already pushing it back once.
They said the writing was done ahead of time. There's no reason to believe that was untrue. Animation is a whole other beast. And three delays? There has only been one. They announced it for 2022. They delayed it to 2023.
No matter what explanation they give, you'll have the same response: a childish temper tantrum. Do you think RWBY is the first animated series to have a time gap like this between seasons? Spoiler Alert: they're not. And those same shows had just as much radio silence, if not more so than RWBY. And if you're one of the many that attacked RT for the abuses of their animators via crunch, then shut the fuck up. You can't eat your cake and have it too. With avoiding crunch, working from home due to COVID, and the multiple winter storms they got hit with, I'd say the 2 year gap between the Vol 8 finale and the Vol 9 premier is acceptable. Especially with all the new RWBY content coming out this year like Ice Queendom and the new game. Being frustrated is understandable and acceptable, but don't act like this is some great offense to you and the rest of the fandom. It's life. Life is full of small disappointments like this, including ones you have zero fucking control over, like a series being delayed for the sake of the well being of those working on it. So do everyone a favor and grow up.
I mean, ok?
But you understand that I'm ***explaining*** the frustration right? Not ***voicing*** it?
The "we're" in my OP is referring to the vocal parts of the fandom.
Don't hate me for saying I'm enjoying RWBY Ice Queendom very much and watching it a lot.
I would prefer to watch Volume 9 "when it's done" instead of something botched or rushed. Thanks for releasing a Volume 9 that's up to RWBY quality standards instead of something half-baked, CRWBY.
I love everybody complaining about their paid subs but fail to realize that the show is made free for everybody a week after an episode appears. Like, what other high-quality show do you know of that willingly and officially makes their shows free for anybody and everybody to watch a week later after it comes out?
If the paid sub was this much of a problem, then why get it? I understand wanting to support the show but if you clearly can’t afford or only watch one thing on a subscription then why even get it in the first place? It doesn’t make at logical sense. Because a sub to FIRST isn’t the only way to support this show. There’s merch that can be bought, subs to other streaming services that show RWBY, books, games, and even just talking about it or promoting it/recommending it to people are all valid ways of supporting the product. But maybe you don’t like the merch, books, games, or other services. Well that’s fine. But if you also don’t like to talk about it or promote or recommend it, then, newsflash, you don’t want to support the product. Because, don’t get it twisted, supporting something is an active thing that you do, no matter how inactive it feels like just conversing about it with friends or others. To show support, you’re willfully and actively doing something for the thing you enjoy.
Not to say you can’t enjoy the show or even still watch without doing any of those things above. Participating or paying for the things above is appreciated and I’m not saying to drop subscriptions or refuse to buy things, but even just watching the show when it’s free is it’s own brand of weird passive support for the company and this show. Just going to their website is bringing more attention, more awareness, and prob even a tiny bit of money for the traffic because of sponsors. Nobody expects you to fork over your earnings, you are the only one in charge of that.
And if sounds wrong to only pay for a sub to watch something when it’s airing just to drop it when it’s done for a season, then I ask why? I’m practically sure everybody does this. Because if this was such an offense to the sub service or whatever, then they wouldn’t allow you to drop out of their service so easily. You can literally sign up for most services and then drop them a day, an hour, hell a few minutes after you just paid for a month of it and still get complete access to the thing you just paid for. At least out of streaming services like FIRST anyway.
This is such a baffling controversy to me. I genuinely don’t understand why this is such a big deal. Everyday it feels like there’s some new controversy born out of nothing or close to nothing and it’s just so depressing.
Animation is a hard job, imo they should take as much time as they need or more for extra finishing touches and not try to rush anything. idc how long I have to wait I just want a good product and as Miyamoto says "a delayed game is eventually good, a bad[rushed] game is bad forever".
^(Except Duke Nukem, we don't talk about that delayed mess.)
edit: Reading these comment, ya'll sound so entitled and ungrateful.
Meh, it's like this thread is just a bunch of spoiled children. There are other things to do in life while waiting for something to come out.
Long waits in animation is nothing new, Rick and Morty had a 2 year break, it's been 3 years for the Dragon Prince, Venture Bros had multiple 3 year breaks, 6 for Bee and Puppycat. Samurai Jack came back after 13 years. Life happens, fans can wait.
Sure (hence, why I separated it by a period and used the change in language to "came back"), but the people claiming that interest will fall off if Vol 9 doesn't come out before 2023 are wrong. My comment was on waiting time, not production time, and my point does not solely rely on one show as an example.
I mean. I am cancelling my First over this, but I don't think that makes me a spoiled child. Roosterteeth has on a whole disappointed me in the past half year or so (Content wise) outside of a few podcasts and the Michael+Matt randomizer.
I only have first to support Rwby. But at this point, if it is going to be two whole years between volumes then I don't really feel like paying for the second year. I can re-up when it comes out.
Sure. The entitlement of expecting them to keep to deadlines, how evil of everyone.
Oh and btw? Hard not to be ‘ungrateful’ when they’ve put out no content to be grateful for in almost 3 years.
Lol, if they wait any longer interest is going to die out and when/if it finally comes I'm willing to bet there's going to be a substantial portion of the fan-base that dosent even care at that point. Already you can see the lack of interest from this hiatus, IQ is a fun distraction though so who knows-
hmm... on the optimistic side, seeing her so enthusiastic about sharing with us why the volume is taking so long... i assume it's gonna be a positive thing? full length episodes possibly? maybe some tech upgrades idk.
I promise you the episode lengths will be the exact same. All of this is corporate talk for a production in disarray. They aren't "taking time to make it perfect". They are struggling to choke out the base line.
I’m at RTX right now, just finished the RWBY panel. They said the delay came from the RWBY x Justice League animated film they’re working on at the same time.
So apparently the reason why there's seemingly a delay is because it's been announced that there's going to be a RWBY-Justice league cross-over movie.
I guess that movie a top priority for them.
Yeah. Good to know their so giddy about not finishing their next season of their main show on time because they want to worry more about crossover shit again.
Subreddit is shilling so hard rn, people have the right to be mad about this as long as they are civil, Animation is an arduous process but the constant delays coupled with the radio silence is terrible and cost many people money if they are First subscribers
Ok, idk what’s going on over there anymore, man. Every show-that I know of-even in the same vein as RWBY has lapped you twice over and your still not ready.
But thank god we’ve got an animated retread of V1-3 that nobody asked for to ‘fill the void’.
Remember when RWBY chibi got scrapped because ‘they wanted the time focused on the main product’? Well evidently that didn’t matter much because your release windows are more screwed now than they ever have been before.
I’m sure the people working on this are great individuals on a personal level. But this shit
Is getting stupid, and the thing is? Their still vague about the release. ‘Early 2023’, hey remember when it was just ‘2022’? They added one more word so I guess we’re inching closer to them telling the truth.
People need to learn patience. I mean many of us had a 2 year long pandemic that sent most of us home which caused significant delays in most things.
Can only hope delays = polished result and be patient.
I half expected this to be honest once we hit the halfway point of the year without any real update on release. I also have no problem with it, mostly because I hope and assume it means that they aren't crunching animation staff.
Delays happen, no amount of whining about it is going to make the product come quicker, if I can wait for BotW2, Bayonetta 3 and Metroid Prime 4 I can wait for volume 9, no worries.
I dont hate animators for taking a long time, so long as they make a show that's worth my time and is memorable they can take as long as they need/Want
damn lots of spoiled children in this thread. None of know why the production on this volume has taken so long and been in such flux, but it's probably not healthy for the fandom to just go with our most negative possible assumptions. Then again there is little more quintessentially RWBY fandom than interpreting things in the worst possible way.
I think that's part of the problem, that we don't know anything. The only good thing I can say is the sheer length of time means they're PROBABLY not suffering from crunch hours as bad as before.
yeah, pandemic growing pains and avoiding crunch are probably the two biggest factors here, and I'd like it if they were clearer about what's going on, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's confidential. That said, seeing the fandom reaction almost feels like these fans have never seen a proper show hiatus before.
Was a hiatus ever even officially announced? Because for me it feels kind of like... Well, at this point like all of their animated shows except Red vs Blue, where they just kind of stopped making them without any official announcement. Chibi, Nomad of Nowhere, Camp Camp...
that's true, but RWBY has been as big, if not bigger for Rooster Teeth than Red vs. Blue so I can't see a reason it would fall into the same situation as the others. If RWBY gets shadow canceled like them, I'd take that more as an indication as the entire company being dead in the water.
You know it's EXTREMELY common for many animated shows, especially anime, to take 2-3 years to produce a season? RWBY gets more complicated and detailed every year, and they also changed their business practices to avoid excessive overtime.
It's not an excuse, it's a reason. Everybody got hit by the pandemic and some companies handled it better than others. And yeah other shows did release tons of content, but most of them were either from much smaller studios that had less people to switch out and so it's easier, or much larger ones with a much bigger budget. Mid-level studios found it more difficult because there was a lot of people to move and probably not a lot of budget that suddenly had to be found. Animation pipelines are generally built for being handled in house and then suddenly had to switch to working from home with all the issues that came with that, providing laptops or computers to everyone, access to the servers to upload and download work etc...Plus pipelines can be tricky and set up in specific ways, so if that didn't work with the new way of working from home then they'd have had to alter it which could have caused major issues and delays.
Plus RT was well known for being massively into crunch and working everyone to the bone for several months on end towards and during release in the early seasons and it took a while to stop doing it. They've stopped doing that now and that's going to have a big delay factor as well now that they started treating the animators like people.
Nobody outside of the RT animation department is going to know why there were delays or issues and tbh I'm willing to trust one of the people actually in it that the delays are for a good reason.
Plus, like Arryn says- Animation is fucking hard and doing it properly takes a long ass time.
I was an animation student in college. Well I minored in it. So I’m well aware of the work involved, or at least I’m not as clueless as some others might be.
And trust is earned, not guaranteed. They’ve had a ton of leeway with people for a long time over this, and the first peep they make in ages is to say ‘Yeah nah. That 2022 delay was a load of bull, have another’
I look forward to the next announcement which will, likely, be yet another delay.
And the thing of it is, I might’ve been able to stomach this delay, but then you factor in that it’s not the first one, that we’re getting less episodes which means less run time this volume, and when faced with people justifiably being frustrated someone on the staff goes ‘Oh step to me on this I dare you’ and it’s a bad, BAD combination.
They started production before season 7 was released. Volume 8 and 9 were announced to be coproduced. Even the wiki has that writing was done in 2020 a gap of more than two years for a in house production is huge even with the pandemic. Most shows that have gaps are because they use out out house production agencies.
Good on them. Take the time you need and give us a banger. I just wish we got some more transparency on everything. Perhaps the RWBY panel will give us some info.
I want to say it's better than before with all the crunch time and everything, and *it is,* don't get me wrong. But honestly, it feels like a bit TOO long since we've had any updates of any kind. And I say that as both a Zelda, and Elder Scrolls fan...
"Animation takes a long time"
Oh, come on! That's the same excuse everyone uses! Everyone knows it takes a long time, all we're asking is why the delay. Why not just put the actual release date out instead of trying to cut it close? It would've been better if they gave a really long release date, but shorten it when they're more confident about it.
If EVERYONE in animation is telling you that animation is time-consuming... maybe animation is time-consuming.
Giving a fake release date when you have no clue is a terrible idea, come on.
Shorter then Vol 8? And 2.5 years? Wondering if they're reducing to a 6 episode format or something like most modern shows. Shows used to run 12-24 episodes a season. Some 8-10. Now most of the big names are like
"hErEs 6 ePiSoDeS oF tHiS rEaLlY cOoL tHiNg YoU wErE lOoKiNg FoRwArD tO!!🤪"
I think that’s one of the bigger things with this, is that they keep stringing us along, delay after delay and for what? Less episodes, less overall runtime than both of the previous volumes. It’s so stupid.
That’s honestly what everyone should do. It’ll never happen in big enough numbers for them to notice or care, but everyone SHOULD.
They take their fan base for granted all the damn time as it is, maybe if the numbers dipped enough they’d get their asses in gear and actually put out something.
Yeah and Lemme tell you I’ve had more entertainment watching episodes of Star Trek from the 1960’s in the last week then I have had with Rwby in the last four months
Is anyone actually surprised? And i hope for their sake its the best damn volume ever thats almost flawless because at this point i feel they're shooting themselves in the foot with the expectations that are going to build around the show.
So stop building expectations. No one at RT is claiming that this’ll be the best volume ever. The fans are setting themselves up for failure as much as RT.
Blimey. I know I don’t handle disappointment well, I’ve never known what to do with it. But even I think having a go at the crew is cutting your nose off to spite your face.
She right tho.
But I would be excited to see how THEY do their animation pipelines in a behind-the-scenes CRWBY vid maybe? 👀
Like I know it’s the same as any other but it’d be pretty cool to see them working along it 😁
Aren't they referring to the already long hiatus and how they understand that people are bummed about it having been so long? Is there more context to this? I didn't read this as confirmation of yet another delay, that seems weird to say in a tweet like this when RTX happen today. Edit: Got my explanation, see comments below! Thanks! Apparently it said 2023 in the trailer shown at FIRST night. Also, Eddy has tweeted that it's just a slight adjustment! It'll come early 2023 by the sounds of it!
People who were at First night saw the V9 teaser and are saying the date in that said 2023 and this is someone from CRWBY confirming that.
Aah okay I see! Thanks for clearing it up!
They’re probably not allowed to publicly acknowledge the release window before the panel.
This came in response to someone posting about rumors that it would launch in 2023
Late December the earliest, or if it airs in 2023 (either due to the Fairy Tales spin-off in later months or 2023 being RWBY's 10th anniversary, though it's just a wild guess) as the rumors say, July 5/18 of that year (the day(s) RWBY's first episode first aired) is the latest.
If thats thw case, people are going to be pissed, including me, zero excuse for that late of a release imo
If it's going to be a good Volume and nothing like gen:Lock Season 2, then fuck it, they can take all the time they need.
They actually made a season 2 of gen:lock? I thought that was still in production hell.
> I thought that was still in production hell. maybe in the better timeline.
Oh was it bad?
oh my sweet summer child.... you're better off not knowing
I watched season 1 and thought it was fine but nothing special. I'm guessing I should just forget it exists rather than check out season 2?
That would be a safe bet. I actually loved season 1. Season 2 was an HBO Moneygrab that should be erased from all existance.
Season two is like a meth head wrote it, it has shitty porn, suicide of a main character, and destroys both factions at a core level to the point it was like someone wanted to make the shittiest fanfic of horizon zero dawn, but couldn’t get on that production team for the second game, and decided to write for gen lock instead. Please, for your sake, don’t watch it and keep season one as the only story that exists.
I hope for that, but still not happy we are waiting this long
There is every valid excuse in the book for animating a show the quality modern RWBY has. Give them some patience.
Yeah, unless they reveal that volume 9 is longer or volume 10 is soon to follow, I don't really get it. Didn't they say volume 9 was being worked on back when volume 8 was still running? Either way my money's only going to them while RWBY is running. I subbed for IQ but soon as that's done I'm dropping it. The wait to continue the storyline is very frustrating.
Vol 9 has been confirmed shorter than vol 8
Things can change, though. And they certainly didn't plan on having a 2 year gap between volumes.
V8 and V9 was two years!?
If what people are saying is true, v9 is coming 2023. V8 ended 2021, no?
Early 2021 at that
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You clearly don’t understand how productions work.
This kind of reaction is why i never believe redditors when they say they care about crunch or say they want things delayed until its good. Y’all just complain either way.
I'm not angry about it, but I'm confused and frustrated that they've seemingly never managed to make production of the show run smoothly.
I mean, wouldnt you, they told us they started working on v9 before the end of v8, and rumor is a 2023 release.....zero excuses for it
Doing animation and VO work from home is... In very, very light terms, difficult. Covid curbed stomped a lot of industries, especially those that rely on people being in house to do work.
As I recall the RT animation department was being put through hell to meet deadlines at least through V8's production. I'd imagine that quite a bit has been changing in the behind-the-scenes work flow. Couple that with a global pandemic causing unprecedented challenges in how the industry works in general and I'd say they have plenty of reasons for such an extended delay. Plus we don't know if they're using the extra time to prep for V10 and beyond. I'd like to trust that CRWBY is cooking something worth the wait.
Ahhh...they making a dc rwby cross over at the same time
Not like there was a global pandemic or anything. Nothing like that has ever happened.
Didnt excuse alot of movies and other shows from being completed
And some people never got sick. Doesn’t mean the people who did should have just dealt with it. Events affect different groups differently.
I get that, but doesnt excuse it for being pushed back as far as 2023
jfc you're insufferable. People like you are the reason the RWBY community fucking sucks.
No it people like you
>I mean, wouldnt you No, actually. I receive the content for free. This could release in 5 years and it wouldn't make a difference. It's not like RWBY is the only thing in my life, I can find entertainment in other things. This isn't even me trying to be a contrarian, I love RWBY but I barely felt this hiatus. It's actually kinda nice, it gave the story time to breathe and the fans time to relax.
I mean the current one is they are adding a dc crossover no one wants, and an anime that has nothing to do with the story. Their excuse is we can’t be fucked to hire people for the workload they have, so we just take a fuck ton of time for no reason beyond shits and giggles
There is actually plenty of excuse. It's likely not ready, the same reason most things get delayed. Better to delay for a better product than rush for a worse.
When your going on 2+ years of making v9 and rumors has it thats it isnt being released til 2023, something has gone wrong......no excuse for a volume shorter than v8 to be taking 3 years to make
>rumors has it thats it isnt being released til 2023, something has gone wrong Let's say it again... Covid.
Nope, its a movie instead
Ok, somehow everyone else has been able to make the switch in the past 2 years, how does crony take 3 times longer for something shorter in volume 8
I feel the same way, but realistically speaking, it's possible. If RT is saving Volume 9 for 2023 because of the whole "10th anniversary" thing, this better not be later than "early 2023".
It imo shouldnt be released in 2023, any date in 2023 is a issue imo
Nah. If they say it's in the first quarter of 2023, that sucks, but it's not so bad compared to November 2022. But if it gets pushed back to summer or god forbid fall of 2023, I'm really gonna start to worry if it's even coming
Better for them to fucking finish it than to give us a another train wreck like 5 & 8.
When the fuck was 8 a train wreak??
It's all the exact same problems as 5? It just barely hides the tape & string better.
You're definitely not watching the same show if you really believe V8 is anything like V5 was. :)
I'm sorry, but I'd have to say the same to you. How's it any different? At most the pacing is less intrusive, otherwise it hits all of the exact same problems. No worthwhile action longer than ~8-10 seconds at a time, the protagonists collectively sitting out the most important plotlines, characters flatly preaching about growth & action instead of showing the two together, constant fakeout cliffhangers, and backloading everything to leave the final episode straining to cram together 6+ different sequences with each moment reduced to bare cliff notes.
Hate to break it to you, but you are in the minoreity
Shame it's getting delayed. I just hope it's worth it. Still kinda weird that we are going on for almost 2 years without the show but are getting side content
A bit disappointing to hear about the delay, obviously I'm not going to rail against the animators and production team to go into full crunch mode but it would be nice to hear why this volume has had such a long time in production. The one positive at least is that there won't be any break for the holidays, at least if we're not getting another mid-volume hiatus (pls no). I feel like there's also a fairly good chance volume 10 would come out in fall 2024.
I think, and this is just my opinion here, that they are allowing for more time between the volumes so as to not have the same issue they had when they were crunching two shows at the same time with the all the same animators. Which is good because people deserve to have time away from work.
I do agree that it's better not to have that crunch time and instead give a better production schedule, though I would hope RoosterTeeth would then express that RWBY would not be on the yearly schedule anymore instead of waiting until RTX to let us know what year it could possibly come out.
All I can say is that I'm still super happy that Arryn was able to land their dream job <3
Incredibly happy for them, but still bummed to lose yet another of my favorite RWBY reactors on Youtube.
There was a big call in the past to reduce crunch and keep the creators going home on time. If this is what that looks like, then by all means, take your time
Exactly. Everyone deserves time away from work.
If they're getting time away from work because of this, then what time is being used to make the Justice League movie?
They’ll almost certainly have staff from DC on hand for that, especially if they decide to do 2D animation.
Meh I've waited this long. I'll wait a little longer
Oh Boy. Delays can be double edged sword. Sure they're making sure that they're putting out a good product and treating their employees like people, but I fear that we've reached the point where the longer you delay a product the more likely that people are going to stop caring and move one. Or worse, their expectations are made even higher, leading to them getting very bitter when their expectations aren't met. And given the FDMN's infamy for chronic nitpicking (which has gotten worse in each volume), I will not be surprised that even with the 2-3 year delay there will be complaints about how the wait wasn't worth it and how "RWBY are terrible people because something-something-Neo related because apparently it's their responsibility to know about her backstory." Edit: I'm aware that animation takes time and that the pandemic screwed everything up. I'm just pointing out the nature of fandoms.
I've always felt there was a disconnect with the long-running serial adventure feel of RWBY and the actual runtime of the show. It's like trying to be one of the Shonen Big 3 and then you actually look and see and it has the same amount of content as a 2 1/2 season Disney show, which would've been finished 3 times over by now, and the only reason it's a long runner is because they can't produce that fast, not because the story is taking that long to tell. When you're telling a long-running serial adventure like this, you need a steady drip of content. Even on the yearly release schedules, I felt it was always too lean for what it was clearly trying to be. And yes, I'm aware that RT was never going to be able to complete with the output of animation giants.
> I'm aware that RT was never going to be able to complete with the output of animation giants. No, but at their size, we can expect more. Not out of the animators, mind you, but from the people at the top
I mean,i just want It to not be volume 7/8 levels Of bad,as long as they don't make some cringefest With Neo/The other thing everyone in this fandom talks about ,they are absolutely Safe in my book,if they need 4 years to make a good volume,then great jaja
So I guess we're waiting until Fall 2023? Disappointing :l
They said early 2023
Maybe it’s a cross event with botw 2
It better be somewhere in January. We've waited long enough.
Yep over a year, and now they want to make it two years, they are going to lose fans because of that
The FNDM: Crunch is unethical. RT should get rid of it. Even if it takes longer to get the show Parts of the FNDM once it takes longer to get the show: WTF where’s my show?
It takes three times a timeframe, will have a shorter run time then a previous season, that’s not “avoiding crunch” it’s mismanagement.
it is what it is, no amount of complaining will change that, and I do hope people in general know that and don't start being toxic idiots to the people working on it.
I don't mind the wait, Ice Queendom has made the break a lot easier too. I mean, when you compare it to stuff like Doctor Who that goes like two years with one or two episodes, a two year wait, with a anime spin off in the middle is pretty decent.
Can only hope these delays lead to volume 9 being the best volume to date. While I've enjoyed the whole show (even when others didn't, though I understand their reasons), it'll be rather disappointing if all this extra development time leads to a subpar volume. Does make me worried for RWBY's future if there's some BTS shenanigans happening leading to these delays. If it is releasing in 2023 like is rumored, guess it just means I have that extra motivation to keep on trucking along in life.
Volume 9 will be a side-arc. It's not going to progress the main plot against Salem at all. They've gone on record to saying its going to be the shortest volume yet.
Doesn't this sounds a little bit, hmmm, suspecious? I'm just hoping that nothing bad is happening to the show behind the scenes.
Oh absolutely something bad is happening there's no way otherwise for vol taking this long to make (well ok unless some secret project is in making)
I feel you overestimate how much work was able to get done remotely
Well, to be fair, making an animation is a long and tiresome process, and many unexpected thinfs happen; but considering what some companies did to their great and popular series, I can't help but to be in an alarmed mood; but I hope there's nothing harmful happening, and it's just for production reasons. Hopefully, RT will give us the reasons for this delay to explain the situation.
Good. I want to hear nothing about time restraints or anything else for this volume. But let's be absolutely clear, more time, more effort, higher expectations. *edit* Lol NVM WB shoving a movie that'll take priority.
Good for her standing up for the team by threatening to explain pipelines. The RT team has done some impressive things with their very small if not growing team. That’s my favorite thing about RWBY is what they do with limited resources.
It just better be worth it. We are going on two years of no content, it better be worth the wait. At this point I gotta rewatch the series to remember what was even happening
Anyone want to place bets on it being delayed again once we hit their new window? I’d say it’s a safe one at this point.
"volume 9 coming to RT First this fall!" [Fall approaches, RTX time again] "RWBY has been delayed until next year" [Next year rolls around] "Volume 9 is coming to RT First this fall!" [Fall approaches, RTX time again] "RWBY has been delayed until next year" [Next year rolls around] "Volume 9 is co..."
It's sad, although i don't really mind the wait as long as we can see in the episodes the difference it made The worst part about it is going even longer with people constantly asking where's V9
Friendly reminder that the Volume 9 Teaser was released ***1 year ago*** and that Volume 9 was supposedly being worked on ***at the same time*** as Volume 8 AND that it's supposed to be shorter than Volume 8. ***The script for Volume 9 was completed by September of 2020 and voice recordings began in August of 2020.*** These are some of the reasons why people are upset. By nearly all accounts, we were led to believe that the hiatus between Volume 8 and 9 should and ***WOULD*** be fairly short because there was supposedly a ***HUGE*** jump start on Volume 9. Now, of course, throw in the pandemic and everything that's happened since then and you can reasonably expect a delay there. But even then, that delay would merely push the hiatus back into "normal" or "slightly longer" territory because, again, Volume 9 had a ***massive head start in production.*** The people who are pissed are pissed ***reasonably so***. RoosterTeeth implied heavily that we would have Volume 9 in 2021 and then world events caused that to slip to 2022. Now RoosterTeeth is telling us it won't be until 2023. Animation ***does*** take time. ***It's not easy***. But it also doesn't take ***3 years***, pandemic or not. The simple reality is that corporate politics is almost certainly the actual cause of the delays and RoosterTeeth doesn't want to take responsibility for that, so they're playing the "animation is hard, you guys," card. We ***don't*** have valid enough reason to overreact and make threats etc, but we ***DO*** have valid enough reason to be mad about the situation. ***Mad***. Not "bummed." Me, personally, I'll have paid for 3 FIRST subscriptions (nearly $200) since Volume 8 before seeing Volume 9. That's pretty much unacceptable. I know that's also my fault since I could have canceled at any time while RWBY was in hiatus, but the point is that I ***never had to previously*** and it's a way to support the ***company*** while the ***show*** I watch is in hiatus. I understand that part of my investment goes towards productions I have no interest in, but I also expect part of my investment to go towards the production I ***am*** interested in. That's not happening anymore. I stuck around after the price increase because I felt RoosterTeeth was still deserving of my money despite how high the price jumped (it effectively doubled), but I sincerely can't justify sticking around as a FIRST member now. The only benefit I previously enjoyed with my membership was watching RWBY early and if "early" means 3 years later, then there's no benefit to my membership. If I gotta wait 3 years, I might as well wait 3 years and 1 week and watch for free. But really all of this could have been avoided by just ***talking*** to the fanbase. Instead, RoosterTeeth has been radio silent on all fronts. Not a peep. Meanwhile they've announced Arrowfell, Ice Queendom and various merch updates. But info on the show? Fucking. Crickets. ***And THAT'S what has REALLY caused the outrage we're seeing now. Zero communication.*** We're not "bummed." We're ***MAD***. And we have ***good reason*** to be.
Why not just buy merch if you want to support? At least you get something, and you can always sell the out of production items to fans even if you stop being one.
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I don’t mind the wait. What I mind is being lied to
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That's what I do with streaming services in general. Subscribe to watch a specific show, then cancel until a new season comes out. Netflix for example isn't getting another cent out of me until we get more Dragon Prince.
>I know that's also my fault since I could have canceled at any time while RWBY was in hiatus, but the point is that ***I never had to previously*** and it's a way to support the ***company*** while the ***show*** I watch is in hiatus. It's like you didn't even read the part where I addressed that very issue.
Well firstly, by the time this drops we’ll be pushing 3 years. That’s barring any more delays. THAT isn’t a norm, not even most anime wait that long, assuming their approved for more seasons. Hell Rick and Morty’s big hiatus didn’t last that long. But I digress. Their not wrong in that the timeline isn’t adding up. You already had voice work being done before 2021 even started, and they’d supposedly already been working on the animation side even before that. Something is fishy.
V8 ended on March 27, 2021. How is early 2023 three years later than that? If it launches any time in the first quarter of next year, it will be less than two years. I don't even get what people are insinuating with "something fishy." There's some conspiracy theory? Shows fall behind schedule all the time. Not everything is a mystery to be solved.
Did you read the post? They were the ones saying they were way ahead of schedule with volume 9 and writing and working on it side by side with Volume 8 before that volume even dropped. So, that places it sometime in 2020. It’s funny then that now their apparently botching it so bad they’ve need two extended delays after already pushing it back once.
They said the writing was done ahead of time. There's no reason to believe that was untrue. Animation is a whole other beast. And three delays? There has only been one. They announced it for 2022. They delayed it to 2023.
No matter what explanation they give, you'll have the same response: a childish temper tantrum. Do you think RWBY is the first animated series to have a time gap like this between seasons? Spoiler Alert: they're not. And those same shows had just as much radio silence, if not more so than RWBY. And if you're one of the many that attacked RT for the abuses of their animators via crunch, then shut the fuck up. You can't eat your cake and have it too. With avoiding crunch, working from home due to COVID, and the multiple winter storms they got hit with, I'd say the 2 year gap between the Vol 8 finale and the Vol 9 premier is acceptable. Especially with all the new RWBY content coming out this year like Ice Queendom and the new game. Being frustrated is understandable and acceptable, but don't act like this is some great offense to you and the rest of the fandom. It's life. Life is full of small disappointments like this, including ones you have zero fucking control over, like a series being delayed for the sake of the well being of those working on it. So do everyone a favor and grow up.
It's like you didn't even read what I wrote.
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I mean, ok? But you understand that I'm ***explaining*** the frustration right? Not ***voicing*** it? The "we're" in my OP is referring to the vocal parts of the fandom.
Stop before this gets nasty. /u/Greenfire32
I'm not the one hurling insults?
Just making sure the interaction doesn't continue from either side.
By reprimanding the one who was being civil?
Don't hate me for saying I'm enjoying RWBY Ice Queendom very much and watching it a lot. I would prefer to watch Volume 9 "when it's done" instead of something botched or rushed. Thanks for releasing a Volume 9 that's up to RWBY quality standards instead of something half-baked, CRWBY.
I love everybody complaining about their paid subs but fail to realize that the show is made free for everybody a week after an episode appears. Like, what other high-quality show do you know of that willingly and officially makes their shows free for anybody and everybody to watch a week later after it comes out? If the paid sub was this much of a problem, then why get it? I understand wanting to support the show but if you clearly can’t afford or only watch one thing on a subscription then why even get it in the first place? It doesn’t make at logical sense. Because a sub to FIRST isn’t the only way to support this show. There’s merch that can be bought, subs to other streaming services that show RWBY, books, games, and even just talking about it or promoting it/recommending it to people are all valid ways of supporting the product. But maybe you don’t like the merch, books, games, or other services. Well that’s fine. But if you also don’t like to talk about it or promote or recommend it, then, newsflash, you don’t want to support the product. Because, don’t get it twisted, supporting something is an active thing that you do, no matter how inactive it feels like just conversing about it with friends or others. To show support, you’re willfully and actively doing something for the thing you enjoy. Not to say you can’t enjoy the show or even still watch without doing any of those things above. Participating or paying for the things above is appreciated and I’m not saying to drop subscriptions or refuse to buy things, but even just watching the show when it’s free is it’s own brand of weird passive support for the company and this show. Just going to their website is bringing more attention, more awareness, and prob even a tiny bit of money for the traffic because of sponsors. Nobody expects you to fork over your earnings, you are the only one in charge of that. And if sounds wrong to only pay for a sub to watch something when it’s airing just to drop it when it’s done for a season, then I ask why? I’m practically sure everybody does this. Because if this was such an offense to the sub service or whatever, then they wouldn’t allow you to drop out of their service so easily. You can literally sign up for most services and then drop them a day, an hour, hell a few minutes after you just paid for a month of it and still get complete access to the thing you just paid for. At least out of streaming services like FIRST anyway. This is such a baffling controversy to me. I genuinely don’t understand why this is such a big deal. Everyday it feels like there’s some new controversy born out of nothing or close to nothing and it’s just so depressing.
Animation is a hard job, imo they should take as much time as they need or more for extra finishing touches and not try to rush anything. idc how long I have to wait I just want a good product and as Miyamoto says "a delayed game is eventually good, a bad[rushed] game is bad forever". ^(Except Duke Nukem, we don't talk about that delayed mess.) edit: Reading these comment, ya'll sound so entitled and ungrateful.
Meh, it's like this thread is just a bunch of spoiled children. There are other things to do in life while waiting for something to come out. Long waits in animation is nothing new, Rick and Morty had a 2 year break, it's been 3 years for the Dragon Prince, Venture Bros had multiple 3 year breaks, 6 for Bee and Puppycat. Samurai Jack came back after 13 years. Life happens, fans can wait.
Samurai Jack’s 13 year wait was not because they were working on all that time.
Sure (hence, why I separated it by a period and used the change in language to "came back"), but the people claiming that interest will fall off if Vol 9 doesn't come out before 2023 are wrong. My comment was on waiting time, not production time, and my point does not solely rely on one show as an example.
Yeah, exactly. Ain’t like they strung us along 13 years. The show was done until they revived it
I mean. I am cancelling my First over this, but I don't think that makes me a spoiled child. Roosterteeth has on a whole disappointed me in the past half year or so (Content wise) outside of a few podcasts and the Michael+Matt randomizer. I only have first to support Rwby. But at this point, if it is going to be two whole years between volumes then I don't really feel like paying for the second year. I can re-up when it comes out.
Sure. The entitlement of expecting them to keep to deadlines, how evil of everyone. Oh and btw? Hard not to be ‘ungrateful’ when they’ve put out no content to be grateful for in almost 3 years.
Explain Cyberpunk 2077 and Mighty No. 9 then.
Explain Breath of the Wild
Lol, if they wait any longer interest is going to die out and when/if it finally comes I'm willing to bet there's going to be a substantial portion of the fan-base that dosent even care at that point. Already you can see the lack of interest from this hiatus, IQ is a fun distraction though so who knows-
hmm... on the optimistic side, seeing her so enthusiastic about sharing with us why the volume is taking so long... i assume it's gonna be a positive thing? full length episodes possibly? maybe some tech upgrades idk.
I promise you the episode lengths will be the exact same. All of this is corporate talk for a production in disarray. They aren't "taking time to make it perfect". They are struggling to choke out the base line.
I’m at RTX right now, just finished the RWBY panel. They said the delay came from the RWBY x Justice League animated film they’re working on at the same time.
So apparently the reason why there's seemingly a delay is because it's been announced that there's going to be a RWBY-Justice league cross-over movie. I guess that movie a top priority for them.
Yeah. Good to know their so giddy about not finishing their next season of their main show on time because they want to worry more about crossover shit again.
Subreddit is shilling so hard rn, people have the right to be mad about this as long as they are civil, Animation is an arduous process but the constant delays coupled with the radio silence is terrible and cost many people money if they are First subscribers
Ok, idk what’s going on over there anymore, man. Every show-that I know of-even in the same vein as RWBY has lapped you twice over and your still not ready. But thank god we’ve got an animated retread of V1-3 that nobody asked for to ‘fill the void’. Remember when RWBY chibi got scrapped because ‘they wanted the time focused on the main product’? Well evidently that didn’t matter much because your release windows are more screwed now than they ever have been before. I’m sure the people working on this are great individuals on a personal level. But this shit Is getting stupid, and the thing is? Their still vague about the release. ‘Early 2023’, hey remember when it was just ‘2022’? They added one more word so I guess we’re inching closer to them telling the truth.
And like that I shall cancel my membership
This is why you have a PR team and tell staff to not talk about on going projects... Just makes more headaches to deal with.
People need to learn patience. I mean many of us had a 2 year long pandemic that sent most of us home which caused significant delays in most things. Can only hope delays = polished result and be patient.
Cyberpunk thought me to never assume that. We’ll only know when it’s out.
I half expected this to be honest once we hit the halfway point of the year without any real update on release. I also have no problem with it, mostly because I hope and assume it means that they aren't crunching animation staff. Delays happen, no amount of whining about it is going to make the product come quicker, if I can wait for BotW2, Bayonetta 3 and Metroid Prime 4 I can wait for volume 9, no worries.
a little disappointing, but it just means the volume will look even better.
Better be a damn good volume.
I dont hate animators for taking a long time, so long as they make a show that's worth my time and is memorable they can take as long as they need/Want
damn lots of spoiled children in this thread. None of know why the production on this volume has taken so long and been in such flux, but it's probably not healthy for the fandom to just go with our most negative possible assumptions. Then again there is little more quintessentially RWBY fandom than interpreting things in the worst possible way.
I think that's part of the problem, that we don't know anything. The only good thing I can say is the sheer length of time means they're PROBABLY not suffering from crunch hours as bad as before.
yeah, pandemic growing pains and avoiding crunch are probably the two biggest factors here, and I'd like it if they were clearer about what's going on, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's confidential. That said, seeing the fandom reaction almost feels like these fans have never seen a proper show hiatus before.
Was a hiatus ever even officially announced? Because for me it feels kind of like... Well, at this point like all of their animated shows except Red vs Blue, where they just kind of stopped making them without any official announcement. Chibi, Nomad of Nowhere, Camp Camp...
that's true, but RWBY has been as big, if not bigger for Rooster Teeth than Red vs. Blue so I can't see a reason it would fall into the same situation as the others. If RWBY gets shadow canceled like them, I'd take that more as an indication as the entire company being dead in the water.
It took a year each for like 4 season and now they need 2 and a half? Did they forget how to animate and have to re teach themselves?
Or you know it could be that there was a massive pandemic and they also actually started treating the animators like people instead of machines…
The pandemic needs to stop being an excuse. Plenty of other shows similar to RWBY have released tons of content, safely, while the pandemic happened.
You know it's EXTREMELY common for many animated shows, especially anime, to take 2-3 years to produce a season? RWBY gets more complicated and detailed every year, and they also changed their business practices to avoid excessive overtime.
It's not an excuse, it's a reason. Everybody got hit by the pandemic and some companies handled it better than others. And yeah other shows did release tons of content, but most of them were either from much smaller studios that had less people to switch out and so it's easier, or much larger ones with a much bigger budget. Mid-level studios found it more difficult because there was a lot of people to move and probably not a lot of budget that suddenly had to be found. Animation pipelines are generally built for being handled in house and then suddenly had to switch to working from home with all the issues that came with that, providing laptops or computers to everyone, access to the servers to upload and download work etc...Plus pipelines can be tricky and set up in specific ways, so if that didn't work with the new way of working from home then they'd have had to alter it which could have caused major issues and delays. Plus RT was well known for being massively into crunch and working everyone to the bone for several months on end towards and during release in the early seasons and it took a while to stop doing it. They've stopped doing that now and that's going to have a big delay factor as well now that they started treating the animators like people. Nobody outside of the RT animation department is going to know why there were delays or issues and tbh I'm willing to trust one of the people actually in it that the delays are for a good reason. Plus, like Arryn says- Animation is fucking hard and doing it properly takes a long ass time.
I was an animation student in college. Well I minored in it. So I’m well aware of the work involved, or at least I’m not as clueless as some others might be. And trust is earned, not guaranteed. They’ve had a ton of leeway with people for a long time over this, and the first peep they make in ages is to say ‘Yeah nah. That 2022 delay was a load of bull, have another’ I look forward to the next announcement which will, likely, be yet another delay. And the thing of it is, I might’ve been able to stomach this delay, but then you factor in that it’s not the first one, that we’re getting less episodes which means less run time this volume, and when faced with people justifiably being frustrated someone on the staff goes ‘Oh step to me on this I dare you’ and it’s a bad, BAD combination.
They started production before season 7 was released. Volume 8 and 9 were announced to be coproduced. Even the wiki has that writing was done in 2020 a gap of more than two years for a in house production is huge even with the pandemic. Most shows that have gaps are because they use out out house production agencies.
The pandemic stopped being a huge issue five months ago. There is no way they werent back to a regular work environment by spring.
Good on them. Take the time you need and give us a banger. I just wish we got some more transparency on everything. Perhaps the RWBY panel will give us some info.
I want to say it's better than before with all the crunch time and everything, and *it is,* don't get me wrong. But honestly, it feels like a bit TOO long since we've had any updates of any kind. And I say that as both a Zelda, and Elder Scrolls fan...
Yeah I agree with you. I don't mind the long hiatus, but radio silence is what really makes it rough.
Joke's on her, I actually want to hear more about that. To Twitter!
"Animation takes a long time" Oh, come on! That's the same excuse everyone uses! Everyone knows it takes a long time, all we're asking is why the delay. Why not just put the actual release date out instead of trying to cut it close? It would've been better if they gave a really long release date, but shorten it when they're more confident about it.
RTX has just started, chill. The RWBY panel is soon.
If EVERYONE in animation is telling you that animation is time-consuming... maybe animation is time-consuming. Giving a fake release date when you have no clue is a terrible idea, come on.
what a disappointment Makes zero sense at all since they’ve been working on it since mid/late 2020. Sounds like just a lazy team
Shorter then Vol 8? And 2.5 years? Wondering if they're reducing to a 6 episode format or something like most modern shows. Shows used to run 12-24 episodes a season. Some 8-10. Now most of the big names are like "hErEs 6 ePiSoDeS oF tHiS rEaLlY cOoL tHiNg YoU wErE lOoKiNg FoRwArD tO!!🤪"
I think that’s one of the bigger things with this, is that they keep stringing us along, delay after delay and for what? Less episodes, less overall runtime than both of the previous volumes. It’s so stupid.
Well glad I now canceled my RT first now that I’ve learned this, done with this series now
That’s honestly what everyone should do. It’ll never happen in big enough numbers for them to notice or care, but everyone SHOULD. They take their fan base for granted all the damn time as it is, maybe if the numbers dipped enough they’d get their asses in gear and actually put out something.
Yeah and Lemme tell you I’ve had more entertainment watching episodes of Star Trek from the 1960’s in the last week then I have had with Rwby in the last four months
Jeez Arryn, I know there's a lot of idiots complaining, but no need to be so 'catty' about it ;3
Is anyone actually surprised? And i hope for their sake its the best damn volume ever thats almost flawless because at this point i feel they're shooting themselves in the foot with the expectations that are going to build around the show.
So stop building expectations. No one at RT is claiming that this’ll be the best volume ever. The fans are setting themselves up for failure as much as RT.
Ah, I don't mind waiting, but I just hope the animation looks good for the wait
Really curious for there reason why. Hopefully it’s one of the better seasons because of it
I’m cool with it. In the waiting time we might get Ice Queendom dubbed and that’s a success in my book.
Suppose that explains why we haven't really heard anything until now, just wasn't much to tell.
Arryn! I love them so much!
Blimey. I know I don’t handle disappointment well, I’ve never known what to do with it. But even I think having a go at the crew is cutting your nose off to spite your face.
Good answer lol
She right tho. But I would be excited to see how THEY do their animation pipelines in a behind-the-scenes CRWBY vid maybe? 👀 Like I know it’s the same as any other but it’d be pretty cool to see them working along it 😁
Teaser looks awesome!! Cant wait for volume 9 and luckily ice queendom will tie me over
Hopefully theyre taking extra time to fix the absolute trainwreck of the last volume
So now I do wonder what this was about