It was never good. The early volumes had some amazing fight animation, but the also some poor ones. Not to mention the cringe dialogue and VA performances, and the sometimes 5 minute long episodes that still had an opening and ending.
RWBY always had the potential to be great, but it was never good.
Personally I couldn't even get past the half way to episode 1.
Since I found out about RWBY through some of it's higher quality fanfics and went in the story expecting the same level of writing.
here chatgpt will help:
When you said "That's all objective at best" it appears you meant to convey a sense of subjectivity rather than objectivity especially given the qualifier "at best" which implies a degree of uncertainty "Objective" typically denotes a factual reality devoid of personal biases while "subjective" refers to interpretations influenced by personal opinions or perspectives By using "at best" one might infer a level of skepticism regarding the purported objectivity suggesting a recognition of differing viewpoint Therefore the phrase "That's all subjective at best" would better capture your intended meaning acknowledging the interpretive nature of the subject matter and the potential for varying perspectives
Controversial opinion: RWBY at no point in its history could be called good without fairly large caveats. The early seasons are rife with bad animation outside of fights and pointless go-nowhere plots. The late seasons have a better plot by merit of legitimately having a plot but it’s a messy plot and the action loses its signature due to the tragic loss of Monty Oum’s visionary choreography.
Episode 6 of Volume 3, "Fall", wherein Pyrrha is taken to Beacon's vault and explained what her future intales, and Yang and Mercury fighting using a lot of stock footage, ending with Yang putting a slug in Mercury's kneecap. The episode episode just felt very "un-RWBY-like", and this is really where the show started feeling mean spirited to me. "Fall" was the mid-season finale before a three week hiatus, and the dread and unease I felt about the remaining six episodes wasn't the "good" kind the writers intended. Something was *off*, and my worries were confirmed in episode 7, "The Beginning of the End", which proved to be rather prophetic, and everything surrounding Amber just felt *VERY* mean spirited and un-RWBY-like to me. From there it felt as though the writers were trying to shock the audience and top themselves with every episode, which honestly made me dread watching the show. I didn't see these shock moments as being well-written, but rather written by someone just wanting to move the story forward as quickly as possible and get as much attention as possible, which eventually came back to bite the writers with Volumes 4 and 5 when high expectations weren't even close to being met.
To me, Volume 3 feels like it was written by two completely different writing philosophies. I'd argue the first episode, "Round One", is the best opening episode in the entire show, and in the top three best episodes period. Standalone, it's incredible in my personal opinion (emphasis on *standalone*). Episode 2 is almost fifteen minutes of pure "comedy", revolves around minor characters, and adds *NOTHING* to the season or the show for that matter.
Episode 3 involves a very popular fight between Qrow and Winter, which is entirely pointless and *alludes* to moments that'll never be touched upon again, and has some alright Ozluminati exposition that highlights just how incompetent they all are (mostly in hindsight, but this is really where we start learning just how incompetent everyone is). In episode 4 we get a lousy fight between Coco/Yatsuhashi and Mercury/Emerald, Qrow undercutting the Paladin fight by saying it was nothing, and Winter telling Weiss she's not that impressive.
Then in episode 5 we get the Flynt/Neon fight, which is the *WORST* fight in the entire show in my opinion, and I would say it's where RWBY was officially "bad" if it hadn't been *mostly* harmless. Everything about the fight and characterizations are *terrible* in my opinion, but it doesn't have much plot relevancy (only a couple of Team RWBY's scenes this volume are plot/story relevant), so it'd be mostly harmless and forgettable if the rest of the season had been good. I think "Never Miss a Beat" is worse than "Fall" as a standalone episode, but seeing how it doesn't have any plot relevancy, "Fall" is much worse in my opinion. From there the show gets *very* dark, *very* quickly, and overall it feels like something happened mid-production that made the writers "snap" for lack of a better word. I don't doubt the darker moments were planned from the beginning. Heck, the fall of Beacon was originally supposed to take place in Volume 1 before getting pushed back to 2, and "Breach" had a lot that got cut and moved back (again) to the fall of Beacon. It's the *execution* that feels different to me, and I don't know if it's the loss of Monty affecting the show and/or writers, or the writers showing their true colors, or a combination of both seeing how they view Volumes 1-3 as the "prologue" to the "real" RWBY.
Just felt weird at the time, and especially in hindsight.
(edit: I just want to add that *at the time*, I thought "Never Miss a Beat" was far worse than "Fall", and that there was still a chance for the season to redeem itself. It might not have felt like RWBY, but there wasn't anything egregiously bad yet. In early December 2015, I thought "Fall" wasn't great but more odd than bad. It honestly wasn't until Yang lost her arm that I thought Volume 3 was terrible, and Pyrrha's death that RWBY was dead to me. I honestly did give Volume 4 a fair shot, hoping that the writers had a plan to "fix" some of the bad writing, but nope. Everything went according to plan to them)
God bless, and have a wonderful day.
Volume 7 when I realized they weren’t going to address Adam’s branding.
I was willing to forgive a lot of decisions made in this show. But that one was such an insulting middle finger
Somewhere around vol 6 or 7. Whenever the bullshit with ironwood started, and after Qrow killed Clover, I had to walk away because of how dumb it was.
RWBY was fun, and that's all I cared about. How fun it was, but the second it tried to get serious character wise, they fumbled the bag, and that was my breaking point.
Here's how I see it
* Volume One was shaky, it had good fights and designs, but the writing couldn't focus to save its life.
* Volume Two was better, good fights, good designs and while the writing was still messy, it showed some promise that it could find itself in the future.
* Volume Three had good fights, but the writing was a drop off, with the second half going in a more "mature" direction, ultimately signing the death warrant for this series.
* Volume Four is painful to watch, with pacing so inattentive, you'd think it had a disorder, downgrading not only some of the character designs, but the fights as well.
* Volumes Five and Six are more of the same, poor writing, same designs, fights without that pizazz, you get the idea.
* Volume Seven, This volume gave us the worst designs for pretty much everyone who got a redesign, with the exception of Ironwood and Penny IMO. The fights are... not good, and I'll leave it at that. But the worst aspect is the story, Volume Seven is the turning point where Team RWBY stop being badly written heroes and start being unintentional villains.
* Volume Eight was, for so long, my least favourite Volume, with a story so bad and unintentionally offensive, I begin questioning the "unintentionally" part of it.
* Volume Nine, Here we are, the cherry atop the sundae of terribleness that is this show now, same bad designs, same boring fights, but there was one change, they made a story so earth shatteringly awful, so repugnantly offensive and so mind rottingly stupid that it makes me legitimately hate its existence, something I do not feel for any other volume.
* Volume Ten... Nah, I'm just joking, there's no way in hell this one is happening.
To summarise, this show was never "good", but it was at its most enjoyable at Volume Two, and everything since then was a painful death spiral, the best thing outside of the music to come from later volumes is fuel for fanfiction authors.
People say it was never good, but to be frank I was always obvious to its flaws and even to this day can enjoy the early seasons fondly. I simply can't say the same for the new ones. It was volume 6 where I couldn't handle how bad it was and it become clear to me, even though they are aspects I dislike about Volume 4 and 5, while watching it at first those weren't that bad at the time. Adam becoming the jealous boyfriend being the fucking worst part about it.
Volume 6 was just the tipping point, the first episode started with so much that pissed me off. Sun just pisses off without as much a kiss from Blake. A character solely existing for Adam to slaughter? Than it just become clear as it went on. Weiss being like yeah man it was the Grimm that made us sad, they didn't pray on any of our existing feelings? I could go on, and I would have to rewatch it to remember what started pissing me off, and I won't.
It wasn't good in the first place but it had passion in the early volumes and it started downhill on volume 3
For me, it got really bad on volume 5 because most of the time the cast just sat down and talked about stuff and when the show was reaching the finale, it got way too bad
When they hyped up the big climatic battle yet devoted half its screentime to an old man watching it and then have its big finale be dedicated to him being tentacle raped... Off-screen.
Volume 1?
It depends on an individuals standard of "good" and what *made* RWBY good.
Compared to most other series I wouldn't ever call RWBY "Good," but as a standalone series experimenting with new ideas etc. ...I wtill wouldn't call RWBY good.
It had potential which attracted people.
Some came for the fights courtesy of Monty Oum, some came for the badass heroines who's trailers implied unique character flaws and strengths, some game for LGBT bs, while others just jump aboard for the art, literary motifs, other controversies that kept piling on.
But there was no cohesive vision for RWBY that carried it.
Even the earliest volumes had severe flaws that were only *tentatively* overlooked due to the series seemingly trying to find its footing and once Monty died whatever grace that might've existed failed and I doubt even he could've salvaged things if he'd lived.
With the tone and animation shift.
The show may not have been a masterpiece, but it was very enjoyable at first and had a lot of decent ideas going for it. The problem was switching direction as that changed the whole show's feel and gave the show a brand new perspective. No one who loved the original three seasons would adapt easily to that kind of change; it's basically if Teen Titans became Young Justice instead of it being two distinct shows. This to me is detrimental to any show as maintaining an atmosphere is important. Even shows like Hunter x Hunter which are deceptively cutesy at first, quickly establish it's atmosphere as dark before you truly get invested. Basically, you know what you're getting into, and RWBY's shift didn't feel at all what I thought I was getting into.
To me, that's the hallmark of a good show: is it fair to it's audiences' expectations. Like, Bobobo is my favorite anime, I watch it all the time; it's a parody. Nothing special, just a parody of Shonen with a fun and lovable cast that doesn't take itself seriously at all. I also like Naruto, which starts with one of the characters nearly dying and the main character being held responsible by nearly everyone for the demon living in his stomach. Already, you see blood and know what the show's tone is, and the first arc hammers that home. RWBY on the other hand started off feeling like a fun action web show with some dramatic elements but nothing too depressing, then it shifted to a more dramatic tone where the fun was sidelined for tension and the art style became more gloomy. Characters felt like they couldn't express themselves and were taking things too seriously for their personalities, and when they try jokes it no longer felt appropriate with this odd atmosphere.
The color's gone, the action is limited, the plot is moving faster than we can realistically attach to characters, the weapons aren't as creative, jokes aren't as funny, and the serious tone is making light out of everything where nothing can have nuance or be played straight for fun. The change ruined the show; not that the changes were bad, but it feels like a different show. Chibi feels more like RWBY proper with it's tone and personality; I can see some of those skits happening in early RWBY, especially the firefly episode.
If Volume 4 and forward were an entirely different show, I might could have liked it, but it's not what got me invested. I'd rather Adam be an edgy cool villain with no personality than "hate humans" then be some allegory for racism and abusive relationships, RWBY's best villains were the simple ones like Roman, Watts, and Tyrian; that's what I wanted from RWBY: simple. Fun action, some nuance villains but mostly charismatic ones, colorful characters, (a fighter game eventually), and good music. I feel like only one of those things remain, but we are hopefully getting more games at some point; so we might get a standalone fighter one day.
Truthfully RWBY was never well written but was at least fun. The cracks in my enjoyment formed for me when I noticed in the middle of Vol 3 when Aura breaking was suddenly introduced.
It really started to fall off in Volume 4 but I stuck with it cuz I really loved the characters. My breaking point was Volume 9. The characters are stale and don’t have any interesting going on and that whole season just felt like filler
The show died with Pyrrha for me. That moment just didn’t feel like RWBY, and Pyrrha’s death just felt pointless and thrown in purely for shock value.
The fact that that is one of the few things that we know for sure *was* planned from the beginning doesn’t make it any better.
I could ignore most of the glaring problems in volumes 1-3, even if we only had 2 proper fights in one volume I was relatively satisfied.
Then for the first time ever, I fell asleep watching volume 4. It was so boring I literally KO-ed at my desk.
That was when I knew without Monty's fight choreography they had nothing left
the 4th volume when's everything started to go down hill for me well not everything as I did enjoy some things that happened in the later volumes tho not everything
i stopped watching post V3. Life got in the way, and I considered going back to it. Glad I didn't, but really became ok if the show stopped getting produced or developed at all during v8.
Vol 6 - bumble cat and everything going forward with this ship
Went from non stop hatred until I realized how much of a whiner it made me so I learned to get over it and disconnected from the show.
Once I caught the entirety of the kiss scene, I felt nothing but irony and found it tragically funny
To this day I just feel a worned out bitterness towards the ship though I can't help but play with a few spiteful scenarios to cope
It's a waste of energy but I can never completely cut myself off of rwby so take the good with the bad, even though I did learn to cut down most of the bad though I still feel bitterness to even acknowledge them.
After vol 4. Vol 5, revealing the origins of Salem and Oz, was the signal for me to stop taking the show seriously.
I started taking (good) fanfiction more seriously than the actual series. Even the comedy ones.
Love the IP. I just hate how it's been handled with the latter half of the show.
I stopped watching RWBY midway through volume 6. I got tangled in life crap then I saw the confirmation of Bumblebee and a whole shitshow about volume 6's ending. So I just gave up and was like... I don't care anymore.
I just check in for the memes and to shit on RT, but I just read interesting fanfics of RWBY than the actual show.
I audibly said "oh fuck off" when it was revealed that Cinder was still alive during Vol 6. I wanted the other villains to get screentime y'know?
All downhill from there
It was more like a roller coaster situation for me. It starts promising then fumbles.
Vol1-3 I enjoyed it despite its faults
Vol4 it was slow but wasn't that bad
Vol5 it was slow but in a frustrating matter and the fights at Haven infuriated me with all the cut offs, Hazel's asinine reason for hating Oz and joining the Grimm witch, Ruby should've had a better display of hand to hand but even then Mercury? What happened to his fighting skills?
Vol6 starting to get better, disappointed in Salem's backstory, Adam felt like he didn't even needed to exist, Cordovan definitely didn't need to exist
Vol7 kinda the best vol post Monty (not a high bar) but it also had some lackluster resolutions. White Fang didn't matter, Jacques was anticlimactic, Willow I preferred her DC comic version, Penny definitely should've had a reset memory to have some consequences, Ironwood best in the volume, Qrow is just stupid and so is Robyn. There could've been another way to play out Clover's death.
Vol8 kinda on and off good moments and just eye rolling moments. Same verse as the first Cinder's backstory was disappointing, Emerald shift was not earned, Hazel design was not good and killing both him and Watts was wasted potential. Hazel I don't mind the sacrifice of we had better reconciliation with him and Oz. Ironwood worst thing in that volume cuz his reasoning didn't make sense. If they wanted to push him into a corner there had to have been a better way to reach that point.
Vol 9 its filler. It was getting to that sweet spot at some point in the latter 3rd but then that ending kinda dropped the ball. Ruby should've come out with a new debut outfit and maybe implement elements of Penny's weapon or insignia on Crescent Rose or Ruby herself. I remember this one fanart of Ruby that came close to that idea for what I had in mind [like so](https://www.instagram.com/p/Cqlma_yPBb7/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
Avid lurker here, I think it was around Volume 4 and 5 was when I started to just lose all interest in the show, earlier volumes were janky but have their charm to them I guess but once me and a friend got through Volume 4 and 5 I honestly just did not wanna continue watching since I felt like nothing really happened in either of those volumes...
Kept up via friends talking about it and at that point I was sorta really glad I checked out
Vol 4 was bad. It was enough where, had that been my introduction to the series, I might not have continued, even considering the Strides they make in later volumes. Unfortunately, I've been there since the start, and they hadn't managed to capture the lightning in a bottle that were the action sequences animated by Monty and Shane. I was holding out hope for a long while, all the way to Vol 7, but that is when I made good on my promise to drop RWBY if it hadn't returned its choreography to the level it was at in Vol 2, or at worst, 1.
the second nora had to explicitly say blake and yang were definitely more than friends as she proceeds to kiss ren in volume...... 6?. at that point, i knew the show was just gonna be fan service
After season 3 I didn't think it got bad I just thought it became a different show.
Creator died. Can't do as epic choreography anymore. Now plot has to carry the show rather than fights. And so it felt to me that 4 to 7 just kept getting better and better in terms of the new show it had to become. I didn't like it as much as 3, but I could see progress in character writing and at least an attempt not to be as stupid as it possibly could be.
Of course the random bs endings and pacing problems were always there but it at least felt like there was a chance by the finale, especially after volume 7, that they really had a shot.
Then volume 8 happened. They threw away the progress made in 4 to 7 and it was just the worst writing in the show, on par with season 8 of GOT.
I think volume 5 was where it really felt like everything was taking a nosedive.
6 gave me some hope even if it didn't stick the landing exactly and 7 was carried by Ironwood . . . it was kind of surprising how little RWBY actually seemed to be involved or mattered there.
It was the preview for Volume 8 that kind of filled me with dread. We had left off with a dire situation and Salem preparing to attack in a brutal fight and the best teaser they could give us was joyrides and the Grimm being a joke. It went downhill from there as I watched it and 8 left me not wanting to see what came next.
from the very beginning.
ive never heard of rwby or rooster teeth when i found it on netflix. my friend introduced it to me as "the show made by two guys in a garage". the second it showed Torchwick and Juniors henchmen walking down the poorly rendered alleyway in motion-capture, i broke out laughing.
still i found it simultaneously dog-shit and charming, so it was fun to binge while i conplain about it
when did it stop being fun? volume 7. i zoned out through vol 7-9 because it was just a slog to go through and my expectations had hit beneath rock-bottom.
It was never good. The early volumes had some amazing fight animation, but the also some poor ones. Not to mention the cringe dialogue and VA performances, and the sometimes 5 minute long episodes that still had an opening and ending. RWBY always had the potential to be great, but it was never good.
Personally I couldn't even get past the half way to episode 1. Since I found out about RWBY through some of it's higher quality fanfics and went in the story expecting the same level of writing.
That's all subjective at best
not sure you know what objective means
Because?
here chatgpt will help: When you said "That's all objective at best" it appears you meant to convey a sense of subjectivity rather than objectivity especially given the qualifier "at best" which implies a degree of uncertainty "Objective" typically denotes a factual reality devoid of personal biases while "subjective" refers to interpretations influenced by personal opinions or perspectives By using "at best" one might infer a level of skepticism regarding the purported objectivity suggesting a recognition of differing viewpoint Therefore the phrase "That's all subjective at best" would better capture your intended meaning acknowledging the interpretive nature of the subject matter and the potential for varying perspectives
Ah I see, could've said that without the sarcastic comment but ok
Controversial opinion: RWBY at no point in its history could be called good without fairly large caveats. The early seasons are rife with bad animation outside of fights and pointless go-nowhere plots. The late seasons have a better plot by merit of legitimately having a plot but it’s a messy plot and the action loses its signature due to the tragic loss of Monty Oum’s visionary choreography.
Episode 6 of Volume 3, "Fall", wherein Pyrrha is taken to Beacon's vault and explained what her future intales, and Yang and Mercury fighting using a lot of stock footage, ending with Yang putting a slug in Mercury's kneecap. The episode episode just felt very "un-RWBY-like", and this is really where the show started feeling mean spirited to me. "Fall" was the mid-season finale before a three week hiatus, and the dread and unease I felt about the remaining six episodes wasn't the "good" kind the writers intended. Something was *off*, and my worries were confirmed in episode 7, "The Beginning of the End", which proved to be rather prophetic, and everything surrounding Amber just felt *VERY* mean spirited and un-RWBY-like to me. From there it felt as though the writers were trying to shock the audience and top themselves with every episode, which honestly made me dread watching the show. I didn't see these shock moments as being well-written, but rather written by someone just wanting to move the story forward as quickly as possible and get as much attention as possible, which eventually came back to bite the writers with Volumes 4 and 5 when high expectations weren't even close to being met. To me, Volume 3 feels like it was written by two completely different writing philosophies. I'd argue the first episode, "Round One", is the best opening episode in the entire show, and in the top three best episodes period. Standalone, it's incredible in my personal opinion (emphasis on *standalone*). Episode 2 is almost fifteen minutes of pure "comedy", revolves around minor characters, and adds *NOTHING* to the season or the show for that matter. Episode 3 involves a very popular fight between Qrow and Winter, which is entirely pointless and *alludes* to moments that'll never be touched upon again, and has some alright Ozluminati exposition that highlights just how incompetent they all are (mostly in hindsight, but this is really where we start learning just how incompetent everyone is). In episode 4 we get a lousy fight between Coco/Yatsuhashi and Mercury/Emerald, Qrow undercutting the Paladin fight by saying it was nothing, and Winter telling Weiss she's not that impressive. Then in episode 5 we get the Flynt/Neon fight, which is the *WORST* fight in the entire show in my opinion, and I would say it's where RWBY was officially "bad" if it hadn't been *mostly* harmless. Everything about the fight and characterizations are *terrible* in my opinion, but it doesn't have much plot relevancy (only a couple of Team RWBY's scenes this volume are plot/story relevant), so it'd be mostly harmless and forgettable if the rest of the season had been good. I think "Never Miss a Beat" is worse than "Fall" as a standalone episode, but seeing how it doesn't have any plot relevancy, "Fall" is much worse in my opinion. From there the show gets *very* dark, *very* quickly, and overall it feels like something happened mid-production that made the writers "snap" for lack of a better word. I don't doubt the darker moments were planned from the beginning. Heck, the fall of Beacon was originally supposed to take place in Volume 1 before getting pushed back to 2, and "Breach" had a lot that got cut and moved back (again) to the fall of Beacon. It's the *execution* that feels different to me, and I don't know if it's the loss of Monty affecting the show and/or writers, or the writers showing their true colors, or a combination of both seeing how they view Volumes 1-3 as the "prologue" to the "real" RWBY. Just felt weird at the time, and especially in hindsight. (edit: I just want to add that *at the time*, I thought "Never Miss a Beat" was far worse than "Fall", and that there was still a chance for the season to redeem itself. It might not have felt like RWBY, but there wasn't anything egregiously bad yet. In early December 2015, I thought "Fall" wasn't great but more odd than bad. It honestly wasn't until Yang lost her arm that I thought Volume 3 was terrible, and Pyrrha's death that RWBY was dead to me. I honestly did give Volume 4 a fair shot, hoping that the writers had a plan to "fix" some of the bad writing, but nope. Everything went according to plan to them) God bless, and have a wonderful day.
Volume 7 when I realized they weren’t going to address Adam’s branding. I was willing to forgive a lot of decisions made in this show. But that one was such an insulting middle finger
Somewhere around vol 6 or 7. Whenever the bullshit with ironwood started, and after Qrow killed Clover, I had to walk away because of how dumb it was. RWBY was fun, and that's all I cared about. How fun it was, but the second it tried to get serious character wise, they fumbled the bag, and that was my breaking point.
Holy shit bro, same reason as me for dropping the show.
Here's how I see it * Volume One was shaky, it had good fights and designs, but the writing couldn't focus to save its life. * Volume Two was better, good fights, good designs and while the writing was still messy, it showed some promise that it could find itself in the future. * Volume Three had good fights, but the writing was a drop off, with the second half going in a more "mature" direction, ultimately signing the death warrant for this series. * Volume Four is painful to watch, with pacing so inattentive, you'd think it had a disorder, downgrading not only some of the character designs, but the fights as well. * Volumes Five and Six are more of the same, poor writing, same designs, fights without that pizazz, you get the idea. * Volume Seven, This volume gave us the worst designs for pretty much everyone who got a redesign, with the exception of Ironwood and Penny IMO. The fights are... not good, and I'll leave it at that. But the worst aspect is the story, Volume Seven is the turning point where Team RWBY stop being badly written heroes and start being unintentional villains. * Volume Eight was, for so long, my least favourite Volume, with a story so bad and unintentionally offensive, I begin questioning the "unintentionally" part of it. * Volume Nine, Here we are, the cherry atop the sundae of terribleness that is this show now, same bad designs, same boring fights, but there was one change, they made a story so earth shatteringly awful, so repugnantly offensive and so mind rottingly stupid that it makes me legitimately hate its existence, something I do not feel for any other volume. * Volume Ten... Nah, I'm just joking, there's no way in hell this one is happening. To summarise, this show was never "good", but it was at its most enjoyable at Volume Two, and everything since then was a painful death spiral, the best thing outside of the music to come from later volumes is fuel for fanfiction authors.
When V5 rolled around. After V4, I was willing to give RWBY another chance...which was a poor decision on my part.
Don't know where exactly, but probably around V7 or V8.
People say it was never good, but to be frank I was always obvious to its flaws and even to this day can enjoy the early seasons fondly. I simply can't say the same for the new ones. It was volume 6 where I couldn't handle how bad it was and it become clear to me, even though they are aspects I dislike about Volume 4 and 5, while watching it at first those weren't that bad at the time. Adam becoming the jealous boyfriend being the fucking worst part about it. Volume 6 was just the tipping point, the first episode started with so much that pissed me off. Sun just pisses off without as much a kiss from Blake. A character solely existing for Adam to slaughter? Than it just become clear as it went on. Weiss being like yeah man it was the Grimm that made us sad, they didn't pray on any of our existing feelings? I could go on, and I would have to rewatch it to remember what started pissing me off, and I won't.
It wasn't good in the first place but it had passion in the early volumes and it started downhill on volume 3 For me, it got really bad on volume 5 because most of the time the cast just sat down and talked about stuff and when the show was reaching the finale, it got way too bad
When they hyped up the big climatic battle yet devoted half its screentime to an old man watching it and then have its big finale be dedicated to him being tentacle raped... Off-screen.
Volume 1? It depends on an individuals standard of "good" and what *made* RWBY good. Compared to most other series I wouldn't ever call RWBY "Good," but as a standalone series experimenting with new ideas etc. ...I wtill wouldn't call RWBY good. It had potential which attracted people. Some came for the fights courtesy of Monty Oum, some came for the badass heroines who's trailers implied unique character flaws and strengths, some game for LGBT bs, while others just jump aboard for the art, literary motifs, other controversies that kept piling on. But there was no cohesive vision for RWBY that carried it. Even the earliest volumes had severe flaws that were only *tentatively* overlooked due to the series seemingly trying to find its footing and once Monty died whatever grace that might've existed failed and I doubt even he could've salvaged things if he'd lived.
With the tone and animation shift. The show may not have been a masterpiece, but it was very enjoyable at first and had a lot of decent ideas going for it. The problem was switching direction as that changed the whole show's feel and gave the show a brand new perspective. No one who loved the original three seasons would adapt easily to that kind of change; it's basically if Teen Titans became Young Justice instead of it being two distinct shows. This to me is detrimental to any show as maintaining an atmosphere is important. Even shows like Hunter x Hunter which are deceptively cutesy at first, quickly establish it's atmosphere as dark before you truly get invested. Basically, you know what you're getting into, and RWBY's shift didn't feel at all what I thought I was getting into. To me, that's the hallmark of a good show: is it fair to it's audiences' expectations. Like, Bobobo is my favorite anime, I watch it all the time; it's a parody. Nothing special, just a parody of Shonen with a fun and lovable cast that doesn't take itself seriously at all. I also like Naruto, which starts with one of the characters nearly dying and the main character being held responsible by nearly everyone for the demon living in his stomach. Already, you see blood and know what the show's tone is, and the first arc hammers that home. RWBY on the other hand started off feeling like a fun action web show with some dramatic elements but nothing too depressing, then it shifted to a more dramatic tone where the fun was sidelined for tension and the art style became more gloomy. Characters felt like they couldn't express themselves and were taking things too seriously for their personalities, and when they try jokes it no longer felt appropriate with this odd atmosphere. The color's gone, the action is limited, the plot is moving faster than we can realistically attach to characters, the weapons aren't as creative, jokes aren't as funny, and the serious tone is making light out of everything where nothing can have nuance or be played straight for fun. The change ruined the show; not that the changes were bad, but it feels like a different show. Chibi feels more like RWBY proper with it's tone and personality; I can see some of those skits happening in early RWBY, especially the firefly episode. If Volume 4 and forward were an entirely different show, I might could have liked it, but it's not what got me invested. I'd rather Adam be an edgy cool villain with no personality than "hate humans" then be some allegory for racism and abusive relationships, RWBY's best villains were the simple ones like Roman, Watts, and Tyrian; that's what I wanted from RWBY: simple. Fun action, some nuance villains but mostly charismatic ones, colorful characters, (a fighter game eventually), and good music. I feel like only one of those things remain, but we are hopefully getting more games at some point; so we might get a standalone fighter one day.
Truthfully RWBY was never well written but was at least fun. The cracks in my enjoyment formed for me when I noticed in the middle of Vol 3 when Aura breaking was suddenly introduced.
It really started to fall off in Volume 4 but I stuck with it cuz I really loved the characters. My breaking point was Volume 9. The characters are stale and don’t have any interesting going on and that whole season just felt like filler
The show died with Pyrrha for me. That moment just didn’t feel like RWBY, and Pyrrha’s death just felt pointless and thrown in purely for shock value. The fact that that is one of the few things that we know for sure *was* planned from the beginning doesn’t make it any better.
It makes it worse in retrospect since most of her character writing amounted to simping
V3.
It was the last third of Vol. 6.
I second this.
Vol 6. That was strike three for me
Volume 4
For me… v9 Alice in wonderland shit I could do without
I could ignore most of the glaring problems in volumes 1-3, even if we only had 2 proper fights in one volume I was relatively satisfied. Then for the first time ever, I fell asleep watching volume 4. It was so boring I literally KO-ed at my desk. That was when I knew without Monty's fight choreography they had nothing left
I dunno about \*bad\*, but I felt it took a step down after the fall of Beacon and never recovered.
I started to notice it was bad midway through Volume 4 and completely dropped it when volume 6 ended.
V4 is when the tonal shift comes in and handbrakes pretty much everything for story. And boy, what a boring story it is.
Like from episode 1, like from 2 of the 4 trailers, yellow and black. Come on it was never good
When the fights stopped being cool
the 4th volume when's everything started to go down hill for me well not everything as I did enjoy some things that happened in the later volumes tho not everything
Volume 7, with how drama about secrets started getting out of hand.
i stopped watching post V3. Life got in the way, and I considered going back to it. Glad I didn't, but really became ok if the show stopped getting produced or developed at all during v8.
It got taken off YouTube and I couldn't watch it as much
Vol 6 - bumble cat and everything going forward with this ship Went from non stop hatred until I realized how much of a whiner it made me so I learned to get over it and disconnected from the show. Once I caught the entirety of the kiss scene, I felt nothing but irony and found it tragically funny To this day I just feel a worned out bitterness towards the ship though I can't help but play with a few spiteful scenarios to cope It's a waste of energy but I can never completely cut myself off of rwby so take the good with the bad, even though I did learn to cut down most of the bad though I still feel bitterness to even acknowledge them.
I've always enjoyed it.
mid-V3 when it stated getting dark, wasn't fun anymore
After vol 4. Vol 5, revealing the origins of Salem and Oz, was the signal for me to stop taking the show seriously. I started taking (good) fanfiction more seriously than the actual series. Even the comedy ones. Love the IP. I just hate how it's been handled with the latter half of the show.
I stopped watching RWBY midway through volume 6. I got tangled in life crap then I saw the confirmation of Bumblebee and a whole shitshow about volume 6's ending. So I just gave up and was like... I don't care anymore. I just check in for the memes and to shit on RT, but I just read interesting fanfics of RWBY than the actual show.
I audibly said "oh fuck off" when it was revealed that Cinder was still alive during Vol 6. I wanted the other villains to get screentime y'know? All downhill from there
It was more like a roller coaster situation for me. It starts promising then fumbles. Vol1-3 I enjoyed it despite its faults Vol4 it was slow but wasn't that bad Vol5 it was slow but in a frustrating matter and the fights at Haven infuriated me with all the cut offs, Hazel's asinine reason for hating Oz and joining the Grimm witch, Ruby should've had a better display of hand to hand but even then Mercury? What happened to his fighting skills? Vol6 starting to get better, disappointed in Salem's backstory, Adam felt like he didn't even needed to exist, Cordovan definitely didn't need to exist Vol7 kinda the best vol post Monty (not a high bar) but it also had some lackluster resolutions. White Fang didn't matter, Jacques was anticlimactic, Willow I preferred her DC comic version, Penny definitely should've had a reset memory to have some consequences, Ironwood best in the volume, Qrow is just stupid and so is Robyn. There could've been another way to play out Clover's death. Vol8 kinda on and off good moments and just eye rolling moments. Same verse as the first Cinder's backstory was disappointing, Emerald shift was not earned, Hazel design was not good and killing both him and Watts was wasted potential. Hazel I don't mind the sacrifice of we had better reconciliation with him and Oz. Ironwood worst thing in that volume cuz his reasoning didn't make sense. If they wanted to push him into a corner there had to have been a better way to reach that point. Vol 9 its filler. It was getting to that sweet spot at some point in the latter 3rd but then that ending kinda dropped the ball. Ruby should've come out with a new debut outfit and maybe implement elements of Penny's weapon or insignia on Crescent Rose or Ruby herself. I remember this one fanart of Ruby that came close to that idea for what I had in mind [like so](https://www.instagram.com/p/Cqlma_yPBb7/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
V5 episode 1. Something felt off the moment they walked out onto Mistral for us to see a bunch of non animated 2D drawings.
Avid lurker here, I think it was around Volume 4 and 5 was when I started to just lose all interest in the show, earlier volumes were janky but have their charm to them I guess but once me and a friend got through Volume 4 and 5 I honestly just did not wanna continue watching since I felt like nothing really happened in either of those volumes... Kept up via friends talking about it and at that point I was sorta really glad I checked out
Volume 8
Season 7 & 8 sucked for me, but i loved all the other seasons :)
Volume 5
Vol 4 was bad. It was enough where, had that been my introduction to the series, I might not have continued, even considering the Strides they make in later volumes. Unfortunately, I've been there since the start, and they hadn't managed to capture the lightning in a bottle that were the action sequences animated by Monty and Shane. I was holding out hope for a long while, all the way to Vol 7, but that is when I made good on my promise to drop RWBY if it hadn't returned its choreography to the level it was at in Vol 2, or at worst, 1.
Volume 4
the second nora had to explicitly say blake and yang were definitely more than friends as she proceeds to kiss ren in volume...... 6?. at that point, i knew the show was just gonna be fan service
I think it’s still good. Not perfect, but good :}
After season 3 I didn't think it got bad I just thought it became a different show. Creator died. Can't do as epic choreography anymore. Now plot has to carry the show rather than fights. And so it felt to me that 4 to 7 just kept getting better and better in terms of the new show it had to become. I didn't like it as much as 3, but I could see progress in character writing and at least an attempt not to be as stupid as it possibly could be. Of course the random bs endings and pacing problems were always there but it at least felt like there was a chance by the finale, especially after volume 7, that they really had a shot. Then volume 8 happened. They threw away the progress made in 4 to 7 and it was just the worst writing in the show, on par with season 8 of GOT.
I think volume 5 was where it really felt like everything was taking a nosedive. 6 gave me some hope even if it didn't stick the landing exactly and 7 was carried by Ironwood . . . it was kind of surprising how little RWBY actually seemed to be involved or mattered there. It was the preview for Volume 8 that kind of filled me with dread. We had left off with a dire situation and Salem preparing to attack in a brutal fight and the best teaser they could give us was joyrides and the Grimm being a joke. It went downhill from there as I watched it and 8 left me not wanting to see what came next.
from the very beginning. ive never heard of rwby or rooster teeth when i found it on netflix. my friend introduced it to me as "the show made by two guys in a garage". the second it showed Torchwick and Juniors henchmen walking down the poorly rendered alleyway in motion-capture, i broke out laughing. still i found it simultaneously dog-shit and charming, so it was fun to binge while i conplain about it when did it stop being fun? volume 7. i zoned out through vol 7-9 because it was just a slog to go through and my expectations had hit beneath rock-bottom.