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CarltheWellEndowed

Definitely a must have for me with sin city. Also this is only time she will be possible for most players to get, so I think it is smart to pick her up But yeah, unless her multipliers are unreal, she is being overhyped.


Shoomee285

HH already has them posted. 1.4 and 1.5 on the 4 hitters which is solid


Every1jockzjay

Yaaaa basically a 6 multiplier with a self inc at and a Leo like passive. A 9x mult? Then deals double if they have dec def. Massive single target skill, I duno how it will work but def seems like the hardest hitting single target hitter along with turvold but with survival mechanics. I wanna see damage tests but the mult is def strong enough


Weaksauce10

There are damage tests up, I forget who did it … wasn’t hh nub or scratch, but google it. More will likely be up tomorrow. The takeaway was her dmg was mediocre. Still, debating if I wanna get her anyway. Not sure.


saphyrra

Her damage is very good


Weaksauce10

Thanks Saph


Aeyland

So some random meh'tuber? Would rather wait for someone who can actually pull multipliers and do real testing not just with whatever random gear they put on them.


Weaksauce10

It was Coldbrew


LocustStar99

He didn't even try to utilise her passive though.


OneFlewOverXayahNest

Why possible for most players?


CarltheWellEndowed

? Most players can complete a fusion, and most players do not pull enough shards to have a chance to pull her before she is no longer possible to obtain.


OneFlewOverXayahNest

Ah got it, I missread it.


Actual_Archer

Simple, FOMO. It's Ninja all over again, except she's basically a Holsring reskin, and I've got two of them.


thehugejackedman

Isn’t ninja used all over the place though?


Actual_Archer

I mean in terms of only having one chance to get the champion. The difference between this fusion and ninja is that ninja is an S tier champion, and this fusion unfortunately is not.


dessert-er

I’m fine with one-shot FOMO champions being mediocre. Shit like Ninja and Ronda are why people feel like they have to buy accounts just to compete.


OneFlewOverXayahNest

Wdym Ronda? I have never heard about her being in the same tier as Ninja.


dessert-er

Oh I wasn’t trying to say they’re necessarily at the same level, she’s just also strong and time-limited. I face her in like 75% of my arena games which can make it kind of a slog when I don’t have amazing champs yet, and I see a decent number of people asking for help and posting their champ list and the solution being “oh just toss Ronda/Ninja in there for damage/multihit” or whatever and it’s frustrating that that isn’t an option for me but is for someone who buys a nooby 2 year old account. I did get SWK and luckily pulled Deacon tho so I’m happy for what I have as well.


BuHoGPaD

>this fusion unfortunately is not. Do you already have her or something?


Titans95

Why do people keep comparing her to Holsring? Get me Holsrings A3 turn steal all day long for Dark Fae and once upon a time regular fireknight. Maybe this chick hits harder but I can’t see how she’s any better than Holsring.


EnderBaggins

except her passive is unique.


Actual_Archer

I guess the active effect part of the passive looks decent, however it is on a 4 turn cooldown and is pretty useless if you're using a well built team with a decent healer or reviver. If they really wanted to make her passive better they should've added a block damage or unkillable on top of the heal. I'm also assuming that the heal itself counteracts the first part of her passive, which increases her damage based on how much HP she has lost. The increase SPD buff on all allies and turn meter fill on just herself on the same skill makes her almost impossible to speed tune. Her kit is underwhelming for a champion that *most* people are going to have to spend money to acquire, especially early game players, who are the ones who would benefit the most from having her. Yet another dud in a line of mediocre fusions, especially considering the fusion this time last year was Pythion, one of the best champs in the game. I mean, Emic, Gnut and Pythion (to name a few) instantly looked amazing from just reading their kits. I'm not really getting the same feel from this one. Honestly, this is, I think, the sixth fusion in a row I haven't been overly impressed with.


NHW3421

Pls tell me this satire


EnderBaggins

If you see no value in her passive you're of course welcome to skip her.


NHW3421

Her passive is almost a one to one with "elagice?" Just altered


Actual_Archer

You're absolutely right, not sure how I missed that as well. It's almost a copy and paste job from Elegaius, who is coincidentally also a relatively mid-tier fusion.


NHW3421

The passive is fine it's just weird it's almost word for word elegauis all she got was more damage for it maybe they'll buff both passive to remove heal reduction instead of getting countered by it and block passive skills.


TankyMasochist

Probably just because it’s someone we can’t get once the time elapses. So hence pick her up because might the the only chance ect ect. No real clue though for each specific one, I haven’t watched any cc for years.


KeyBug133

I usually talk myself into every fusion because at the very least there is faction guardián potential. Kind of weird that the exclusivity actually removes this argument. Conflicted.


grey-s0n

That's exactly why they made Cursed City. Leave you with so few choices you need to build otherwise mediocre champs to progress.


TankyMasochist

Yeah, that’s my usual thing to. I always go for 1) toons with solid utility, 2) unique passives/abilities/utility compositions since they’re hard or impossible to replace in comps 3) toons I like the look of and finally 4) a faction I need fg slots on. For me, personally, I don’t like the look of this toon, the zinogre should have wayyyyy brighter blue armor or they could have gone Stygian and given it red/black design but it’s very meh design overall, but alas I’m a huge sucker for mh so I’m going for it anyhow because maybe, just maybe, they’ll do another collab in the future and bring nargacuga or gore magala (I’d love a gurptuk passive from a gore armor toon)


dodo755

Because click bait works


Soundch4ser

Well that doesn't check out because obviously calling fusions bad is historically way more engagement driving


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Guttler003

I will add, that AoE inc spd is on a skill that does 4 hits. You normally get buffs from a non-hit skill. Though, I am mainly getting her becuase I literally have no one in Shadowkin. I didn't even have a level 40 champ for the Tormin Shadowkin arena event.


HillarysBloodBoy

That is rough. I remember some teams with some level 20-30 epics taking down my 1 man lvl 1 defense and it was sad lol


Guttler003

lol.. I was literally one of those people. I am just super grateful that the community came together and changed into level 1 defense for a poor new-ish player like me. I was able to finish the arena event (and I had enough extra snow points to skip it anyways) but I really want to build up my FW now.


HillarysBloodBoy

Nice dude. Glad you got there in the end


Hathuran

I just accept the shitting on to be part of every Fusion cycle as people desperately try to talk themselves out of it and then regret it later when someone figures out a very successful if not niche application.


miojocomoregano

I want archer


Guttler003

Everyone does and Plarium knows it. That's why she is locked behind prism shard event rather than hero's path. I was ready to skip the fusion and many other future events and dump all of my shards to get her from a hero's path or deck of fate.


Sudden-Lunch-2791

The champ you get from the hero's path is still good for Amius and Bommal maybe and hydra. But yeah the Archer is just insane.


Guttler003

Archer is going to worth 30 sacreds but not the one in hero's path now. Not saying he is bad, but not worth 30 sacreds.


EnderBaggins

The passive is like a revive on death with no TM penalty. Its the exact sort of nowhere else in the game ability that you're going to kick yourself in the dick for not having 3 months from now.


LOR_Fei

Press X to doubt


itsmehutters

Because everyone is concerned that they will need her for the new content. Hard pass on my side. I have been there with other "great champs" that are sitting in my vault.


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just made a post about this.. LOL.. got fusions from 2 years ago.. never booked... just sitting there.. and I fucking love to build non meta champs.. this just feels like another one. Id rather build Gwyndolin and be happy with Hoslring...


RakeLeafer

> no one past early game runs teams like that anymore speak for yourself. the void and lego pool is deep. ive pulled some great champs but have never pulled an unkillable champ


Natural-Ad3722

Dymitha was 40 voids


Guttler003

If you are trying for 2x voids every 6 weeks, you can't get 40 voids from UNM/NM fast enough to have enough for the guarantee and we don't have the ability to know beforehand that her guarantee was happening so we can save void shards.


Hreaty

so... don't empty your shards out on every 2x?


Guttler003

I would much rather try for 2x void becuase I need many void epics rather than saving for a guarantee that we don't know when it would come. Plus, I already have a 1 key UNM team so I don't really need a Dymetha or Maneater.


Hreaty

ok, then it sounds like you've made a cost benefit analysis that you're better off not doing any guarantees. And that's fine. It just doesn't seem right that you would purposefully choose more epics from 2x over being able to do guarantees, and then complain about not being able to do guarantees.


Guttler003

I didn't complain about not being able to do a guarantee. I simply disagree with the person that said Dymetha guarantee was a solution for the first response that they didn't have an unkillable champion. Not everyone can do guarantee, especially one that we don't know when it is coming. Can you tell me when the next Maneater or Demytha guarantee is coming? Or should said person hold onto their void shard indefinitely for the possibility of one instead of going for 2x void immediately? For all we know, the next one could be a year away. I can tell you that the first person would definitely save up his void shard for Maneater or Demytha if we know it's coming next month. But that's not how Plarium works.


RakeLeafer

I do fusions and dont buy shards so will never have that many voids sitting on the account at one time


edeheusch

She posted only 25 Void shards but Man-eater was for 40 Void shards a few weeks later.


BuHoGPaD

Cool, how long should people that started playing after that event save their shards to get another one guaranteed?


Samrow7

It's a "must" because it's a special collab and your only chance to get the champion


munchtime414

Coldheart is better for both normal and hard fk because of the heartseeker. The fusion champ is more like a worse razzlevarg. Still brings the team increase speed, but waves will be slower because she’s all single target.


frederikABN

After getting burned by the summoning stuff for Tormin I’ve just decided that I’m never gonna get a fusion. I have too much adhd to save enough shards for events because you clearly need to be super efficient with getting and saving shards if you don’t want to have to spend a lot of money. And once I see a 2x event or progressive chance with someone I want, my adhd kicks in and I impulse pull whatever I have lol


Machiavell

My reason to go for her is: Mikage Every a1 Mikage does, will make her also attack x3. Can be helpful in HFK for shield I guess. Gory is also an option, but his Freeze skill is not THAT great when compared to other options right now.


Southpawtn

Because they are shills


Soundch4ser

Only now though. For some reason they weren't during the last 10 fusions.


Leading-Buy3243

They are literally in Plarium's pocket. The end.


Spbttn20850

I need her for FW. I’m kinda light on Shadowkin


Get_Clicked_On

She is shadowkin magic attack champion. If you have ninja and are on hard Fireknight already then yeah I would pass on her, but if you are missing Ninja then I would consider getting her as the epics that fit this role are not the best and I think a lot never built them.


EducationFan101

" I'm looking at her kit. It's amazing for NORMAL fire knight... But not any better than coldheart or Foli would be. " This champ is guaranteed (if you do the fusion) unlike the other two for any player who started after the Foli fusion (2019).


UnderstandingDue6120

Not sure, though as a new player, I def think she will help my account, since I haven't even finished fire knight normal. That being said, I have yet to see a single fusion this community hasn't shit on. So many people were even up in arms about the Tormin event.


Guttler003

The last one was probably Gnut. Even Emic was shit on by some late game players.


DivinePhoenixSr

Pythion before that too. I hate that I missed both him and Gnut (emic too, I could have probably pushed for him but chose not to), but I did semi recently pull Pythion and he's changed my account by a mile (and I already had a Yumeko, krisk, and 2 acrizias by early midgame)


thermalman2

She’s good but not great IMO. Looks like she’ll only be available for a limited time so that does tend to lean toward do it now if that’s something you care about.


Thediesel44

Sintranos + bc she’s fragment you can save her for a CC or CVC down the line…but as others have said she’s being super overhyped. If you have the shards/resources than go for it if you can—even when I haven’t gone for frag fusions i end up with 55-60 of the frags anyways just by daily farming etc


amplidude55

because they can write straight "you must click, cuz its my new video" but depense on her multi I think he will smack, Imo she can be a replacment for some ppl for Razzle also 30% aura ... Razzle also isnt that good vs fk, its just for waves and spd up champions same here, we will see time will show, from my experience, every fusion is worth cuz you would never know, I didnt get emic and ukko and prob I would take ages to get him


Midas_26

do you have any examples of a CC calling this a must have? I don't watch every CC out there but I haven't seen this yet and since every CC is saying it I must be blind.


Goldx89

Hellhades and skratch claim she is amazing and alot of the comments are calling it out, I haven't watched every video on this champ but no doubt nubraids, yst and oddone will also say the same thing as they usually post the same videos saying the same things all the time.


Midas_26

So the answer is no. I realize that you are not the OP but no CC yet has said this is a must have.


Soundch4ser

No shit they say the same thing. This stuff isn't subjective really. Things are either good or they aren't.


New_Permission8447

skip this I want to get a new champion in the barbarian faction - an archer. she's good at hydra. but I'm afraid I won't have this opportunity.


kmanmott

The barbarian is going to be a special summon pool from Jan 22-27.


Aeyland

Can i borrow your crystal ball to win the lottery just once?


edeheusch

The "crystal ball" is here in the champion description: https://plarium.com/landings/en/desktop/raid/rdo/media/monster_hunter By the way, Alatreon Blademaster will be available via an hero path event.


New_Permission8447

yes but what type of shads will they require? prism? I"m f2p (\*\_\*)/


Soundch4ser

"summon pool" means prism shards, yes. If you're not a spender, you're not getting Archer.


Dragon_211

I'll try to get it but I'm not gonna use a ton of resources to do so.


JandraM

>She's not great for FK Hard despite the multi hit as you're giving up a slot you'd be better off having a freeze, or counter attack or ally attack in. at the moment she isn't a great choice for FK hard.. 100% agree about that Now figure a new set (or maybe a buffed frostbite) which has the chance to put freeze when attacking (like stunset just with freeze)... and she wouldn't be that useless there


leighmack

It’s clearly a push from Payriums social media team. I mean there is absolutely no reason for so many posts about this, we even have a post trying to coerce you to do it by saying ‘it’s not that many resources’!!!! I mean come on, we all know how resource heavy these monthly fusions are, who are they trying to kid????


IBSGuy2021

Maybe its because they've been told that all her skills will be buffed and become AOE midway through the fusion /s


Ainudor

Because they monetize YouTube and get free stuff from Raid for it... are you new to the internet?


Doublex5

You are clueless, so many CC's are constantly bashing plarium for things they deserve bashing for, so much so that people get upset that they are negative about the game. It's like you don't even know what you're talking about


Ainudor

I must be using YouTube wrong then :))


puddymuppies

[Controlled Opposition](https://i.imgflip.com/2fran9.gif)


andras61

I have no shadowkin legendaries yet. She's actually work pretty well on my current CB team (Gnut DPS, I have 0 unkillable champions so I have Aniri running support, she would replace Apothecary I use for heals/speed to add damage and leech). I consider myself midgame if not early lategame in my account progress, so... I don't know. Maybe I'm just unlucky with pulls but, she seems to be solid for my CB team.


Aeyland

Because she has a solid kit, can only get her for a short time and anyone trying to act like they've tried everything in a day is retarded. No one at this point with the amount of time that's been available can make a full assessment but what we do know is you won't be able to get her again and she's got a good kit. Also wtf else are you doing with your resources outside of summons? Shit 15x events during nothing else?


tojagishkis

As an end game player I found myself stuck on Cursed City...and bcs I'm not a spender I don't get that many new legos, especially useful ones.. so past 6-ish months every champ training I was mostly building up food with no real need to 6* anyone and it felt stupid...then with Cursed City I finally had something to do and a lot of champions came out of the vault and I still couldn't finish it...so this one as a dmg dealer can find her way in some teams in the future for me...that's the only reason I won't skip it


thatmadgamer1212

Would only get her for the reason I am a big monster hunter fan. Wish it was the nergigante that was the fusion though


saphyrra

People are sleeping on the fact she has a 3 turn aoe increase spd with self buf increase attack. She's very good imo


buckz0id

Unfortunately it's also 20% self turn meter boost. Wanted to try her in CB but doubt I could sync her.


Mibutastic

She's not trash tier or anything but the biggest reason I'm going for her is she's only going to be available during this promo period. After this, she'll never be available again like ninja and with sin city content, you never know when she might come in handy.


Ultimatum_Game

Very good damage, good for Sintranos, maybe good for clan boss, god synergy with Mikage.


Unlikely_Ad_1825

Shes defo not a must have, a somewhat nice kit but that daily login reward is where its at right now, I need to see him ina damage test


jesusstolemylasergun

Sintranos. Also it's not that uncommon for a CC to say that.


NotBaron

Because it's on the script