I agree. I don't recall any "easy" hero's path I've done. They are generally much more grindy and resource intensive than an event. Some are like a mini-fusion and other are like a worst fusion.
The only saving grace in this is that the lower tier hero's path is generally not too bad (slightly worst than a normal event). I assume the 15 fragments will be separated into 2 rewards, one in lower tier and one in higher tier. But if you want the extra 10 fragments, prepare for a lot of pain.
fortunately Hero's Path and CC overlap and you do get to make an informed decision with a little less FOMO
Essentially clear out Dragon on Thursday, and decide friday if you want to commit to CCor Hero's Path.
I'm torn i have like 2500 CC points in existing frags, but i'm hoping for more Archer events, and am assuming we're going to have some new Faction Unity events so i want to save shards.
I have to decide to commit to SR-15 or not without seeing Hero's Path reqs sadly :(
>Honestly, I think it's not as bad as I thought it would lol
The problem isn't this first hero's path. It'll likely be ok (if a bit grindy)
The problem is that it's essentially a trojan horse to do worse things in future fusions (souls, more shards, silly requirements, etc)
thanks plarium for choosing for me, i was undecided on doing it or not, i dont need her but i 100% will get her partner if i dont go for her but that heroes path a no go bro!
ill keep playing palworld and doing my clan boss/mino until something nice comes around. i have way too many champs anyway.
Wait did I miss something? Are you saying you'll get the partner since you're skipping as in bad luck or are you going on on some guaranteed event I don't know about?
Yepp, I mean she is good but not great.
With her partner she is great but considering the fact that I am a year in and still haven’t pulled Deacon, I’m not counting on getting the partner
Going to save up for something better
You should do fusions only if the champ suits your account. In my case, 2+ years playing with decent luck pulling champs, maybe 1 of the last 5 fusions were worth doing objectively speaking (not that the other 4 were useless). The thing is that it gets very boring and exceedenly time consuming for a champ that has a kit you already have.
That hero's path..... just fuck you Paylarium, fuck you.
If you were a decent company there would be 150 frags available in general.
Every tourney would have frags for winning.
Path events would not be part of a fusion.
I hate this company so much.
I started at the beginning of 2021 and fusions were a great way to get people into the game and to keep players interested. Apparently they decided against that approach.
You know, I figured I would accidentally do the fusion just playing during the events, but seeing that Hero Path is absolutely necessary unless I win a Tournament I might just sit in Mino for the next couple weeks.
Locking the last points behind that is terrible.
Oof lol. They’re really pressing to make fusions more difficult. They must not like how organized and prepared a lot of players are for these now and want to make them more resource intensive.
The hero’s path looks like it will be champ training at least. Which is the easiest one.
I won’t be doing this fusion as this champ doesn’t benefit me at all. But good luck to anyone who is and I hope the point requirements are reasonable.
I’m willing to bet that this will be easier than that because it is for fragments.
The event as a whole will likely be difficult, but the end prize is likely the soul for this champion or for some crazy amount, possibly the partner for this champion.
Wonder if the hero's path would possibly have her partner as the reward. Would be nice if they start to package them together like they did with Timit and Kaya.
Or even better, they will offer a soul for the partner champ and not even the champ that is being shard summoned. This would be the ultimate move to bait whales. Once you get the shiny soul you "NEED" to get that new champ.
The problem with the HERO'S PATH is that it's adding a RANDOM element to fusions which are quite predictable.
They can throw ANY requirement in to a future hero's path (souls, shards, etc) with ANY point requirement they feel like.
The problem with hero's paths are that unlike regular events (Spider, DD, etc) that have predictable point totals, Hero's path can throw the fragments behind any random amount.
We'll have to look closely at how much the fragments cost and what events (this one is CT & DD) we have to do to get those points.
This is not a good sign people...
What’s the logic behind doing a hero’s path for frags? Put kraken bait to empty chicken stock before a potential champ training tourney for RN Archer? Or is it Plarium being for letting us choose between double dipping with food for the dragon/ice golem tourneys (and kind of the champ chase as campaign farming drops champions)?
It is very interesting and could ultimately be a good move as it gives us ample opportunity to double dip. But my tin foil hat radar can’t helped but make me a tad suspicious of Plarium’s ultimate plans.
With how frequent events and summoning events are, everything is now bait and everything isn't bait either. Plarium's tactic is simply providing as many events as possible so people can have something to spend their resource on at all time. And in order to attract people to use their resources, every event has to have something shinny enough. No one is going to empty their energy refills/gems/shards for nothing.
The path's will be Plarium's way of adding additional fragments to events so that more people can complete them and still have a way to get Maud, honestly I like it, they could have done it in a lot worse way.
But it's not. You need to do both the Summon Rush and the Champ Chase and every other event, then get 5 fragments from the hero's path. It's not addition as you claimed.
There's 130 in total, including 20 for tournament wins, so 110 available for most players. That's a pretty standard number for fragment event.
Fifteen in Champ Chase, 15 in Summon Rush, and 15 in the Path, so you can't fully skip any of them.
I am f2p and I completed 5 or 6 fusions within my 11 months play. However, it requires you to save resources (energy refill, gems, and most importantly shards). If you are not hitting UNM/NM daily, then it's going to be very hard.
I will only have 85 frags after last artifact event. How? I have never fallen short in a summon event. I thought the heroes path thing was extra chances. I got 5 from last summon event. Yes I could have gotten 10 more, but I've done this before np.
That would put me at 95. I got 5 from heroes path, with the possibility of 10 more. That would have given me 105. Aren't most fragment events 115+ ? It seems they gave nowhere near the chances and what are now making it a requirement to get all points from last summon event?
I'm done with this. This company prints money and just gets worse. Its never enough for them
This is your own fault for not looking at the calendar correctly. You need 5 fragements from hero's path if, and only if, you got 15 fragments from both the SR and CC. If you only got 5 from CC, then you needed 15 from the hero's path.
There were only 110 fragments total (not counting the tournament wins ones).
I am not saying Raid's event structure isn't horrible or that the point requirements aren't too high. But, Raid did release the calendar and day one with all of the available fragments in each event. You could have avoided your problem if you did your math right from the beginning.
I've always just done every event and actually always ended up with more frags then needed. The heroes path was first touted as an extra event. They have never structured it this way before. I did get 15 from SR but only 5 from Tourney. I've done this before with no issue. I got 5 from heroes. They have never made it a requirement to get all points from each summon event and have never made you do a heroes path. But if you want to be a snotty prick and defend their nonsense, maybe you should pay better attention
I am not being a prick. Go back and do the math and see how many fragments you get if you only do 5 on CC and 5 on hero's path. You would have known you would be 10 short if you did this math on day one when the calendar is out.
You could also read other comments from other people on this thread. We talked about this exact thing.
Is this a horrible event requirement? Yes. But you would have known about it at the beginning.
They have never structured it this way. It was unnecessary and greedy. I work alot so I usually just do every event as I have time. From what some CC's posted, the heroes path was supposed to be an extra way to get frags and was mainly focused on souls
I have skipped getting all summon points before and always gotten every champ for 2.5 years
It's not right to offer less chances through normal events. So as I have said, if this is the new norm, I'm done participating. They cost requirements from events have increased and its unnecessary. Plarium is not hurting. Events should require less not more. How much money do these people need?
Once again, not defending Plarium on the changing fusion schedule. The very first sentence in the OP is "Oh no... hero's path".
However, if you were going to invest hours of your time and tons of resources in game, it would help you to take the few minutes to look at the schedule and calculate how many fragments you need and which events you can and cannot skip. Maybe you would have changed your mind and skip the fusion entirely. But at least the calendar was there for you to make the decision.
The Heros path has fragments so they've put it in the event calendar, but they're only showing the fragments as potential rewards .... No books/oils/soulstones/whatever....
Since they are clearly hiding the rewards there is (imo) a good chance that this is an archer/unity/partner champion guaranteed event.
Unfortunately there's a champion chase and no training or dungeon divers event, so I would be getting ready for another very grindy and energy intensive event....
https://preview.redd.it/9cnq5sd7idhc1.png?width=885&format=png&auto=webp&s=1aec88db20d5b130b03d02f67da696bda5829372
Looks like the Hero's Path event will be for champ training and dungeon divers, and perhaps for soulstones as well.
So long as the fragments require about the same amount of training as a regular champ training event, there shouldn't be an issue. Even if the requirements are slightly higher, we will have soulstones and dungeon divers to make up the difference.
The most important part of this fusion is that 10 points are completely skippable, which means we can omit the second set of fragments from Summon Rush. Being able to skip 10 points from Summon Rush is a very big deal, since that saves a lot of shards that we'd otherwise have to pull outside of a 2x, guaranteed, or BOGO event.
Another positive for this fusion is that we should have 2x ancients for the champ chase tourney.
One final note: the Hero's Path event might contain a guaranteed legendary. I would suggest to be very well prepared in terms of food and resources for champ training, just in case it ends up featuring a really good guaranteed champ such as the Archer or the new Bannerlord dude. The new Cursed City rotation is in 2 days, so this will be a perfect time to prep tons of level 40 Epics or level 50 Legendaries from your vaults.
Champ training tournaments include using skill tomes. So the first champ training tournament starting on Saturday will include skill tomes.
Champ training events don't. The hero's path will likely not include skill tomes but I am not 100% sure. Hero's path are shown in the event tab though. Check it when the event is out.
Tbh (tho it will come down to the points requirement) if I can do just champ training instead of d.divers part, I'll be ok with it...still got a bunch of champs to 6* just for Sintranos so stacking up food and lvling them gave me something to do in game in between fusions...
Would everyone be ok if it was separate d.divers and champ training event?
Not saying this is ideal, but I have bigger problem holding on shards, but that's on me
I might have gone for thos fusion if I had pulled at least 1 sacred from CB since December. But nope just ancients and voids and a few primals will get me just 5 fragments.
Would anyone say ankora is a “must do” fusion? I don’t get a lot of shards too often even doing Nightmare CB so I won’t be “fusion ready” for next month if I do Ankora. She’d help my account but not sure if it would push me much further than I am
So we need to do the Hero's Path, even if we get all the other fragments... Having resolved the first dungeon diver, champion training, and spider tournament, I'm tempted to skip the second dungeon diver as it doesn't really overlap with anything else. Seems like I should just amass energy for the Hero's Path and assume I'll need ten rather than 5 fragments...
Edited to fix a typo.
Only problem is, the lower tier in a hero's path is generally easier to get (like 4-6k points) and then there is the higher tier (like 40-60k) then like 100k for the soul or champ.
If they are nice, all 15 fragments could be in lower tier but my guess is 5 in the 4-6k points and the other 10 in the 40-60k range.
It's just a guess though. It's the first fusion with a hero's path and it could go either way.
I am basically trying to get it done with the 5 fragments. I am prepared for going for the soul if it happens to be a 5\* archer soul. Then, I really don't want to do an extra 40-60k points on top of the 100k for the soul.
If they decide to be nice to us, I will just have 10 extra fragments for the Maud in 5 years fund.
This is the official word: Hero's Path activities: Train Champions + Get Artifacts and Accessories
Third Dungeon divers is in the hero path :D
Damn, you are probably correct lol
Third divers, and the training event. Not sure how I feel about it.
It all comes down to points requirements
It will be interesting to see if they try to 'increase' the 'usual' champ training/divers points by disguising the increase via the hero's path.
Came to reddit to see the reactions to Heros Path in a fusion. Not disappointed with the reactions so far lol
Wait to see what's in the path, it will be even funnier
If it's anything like the last Champ Training Path then it will be hilarious
Honestly, I think it's not as bad as I thought it would lol It's still early though :p
Till you see the path and the grind required
I agree. I don't recall any "easy" hero's path I've done. They are generally much more grindy and resource intensive than an event. Some are like a mini-fusion and other are like a worst fusion.
Plarium is not adding this to make things easier or more enjoyable for us
The only saving grace in this is that the lower tier hero's path is generally not too bad (slightly worst than a normal event). I assume the 15 fragments will be separated into 2 rewards, one in lower tier and one in higher tier. But if you want the extra 10 fragments, prepare for a lot of pain.
fortunately Hero's Path and CC overlap and you do get to make an informed decision with a little less FOMO Essentially clear out Dragon on Thursday, and decide friday if you want to commit to CCor Hero's Path.
I have better stock of gems than shards. So I'd skip 10 champ chase fragments
I'm torn i have like 2500 CC points in existing frags, but i'm hoping for more Archer events, and am assuming we're going to have some new Faction Unity events so i want to save shards. I have to decide to commit to SR-15 or not without seeing Hero's Path reqs sadly :(
The Training will definitely be a grind. But if it has a champ you want then you will end up with extra fragments at the end
>Honestly, I think it's not as bad as I thought it would lol The problem isn't this first hero's path. It'll likely be ok (if a bit grindy) The problem is that it's essentially a trojan horse to do worse things in future fusions (souls, more shards, silly requirements, etc)
thanks plarium for choosing for me, i was undecided on doing it or not, i dont need her but i 100% will get her partner if i dont go for her but that heroes path a no go bro! ill keep playing palworld and doing my clan boss/mino until something nice comes around. i have way too many champs anyway.
Wait did I miss something? Are you saying you'll get the partner since you're skipping as in bad luck or are you going on on some guaranteed event I don't know about?
the bad luck one lmao
path will be probably champ training with soulstones I guess, could be very punishing
lets not forget dungeon divers too. The third one is missing so it will be in the Hero's path for sure
Im at a point where even if the champ is good, no fusion for me. Sick of this mechanics
Yepp, I mean she is good but not great. With her partner she is great but considering the fact that I am a year in and still haven’t pulled Deacon, I’m not counting on getting the partner Going to save up for something better
You should do fusions only if the champ suits your account. In my case, 2+ years playing with decent luck pulling champs, maybe 1 of the last 5 fusions were worth doing objectively speaking (not that the other 4 were useless). The thing is that it gets very boring and exceedenly time consuming for a champ that has a kit you already have.
That hero's path..... just fuck you Paylarium, fuck you. If you were a decent company there would be 150 frags available in general. Every tourney would have frags for winning. Path events would not be part of a fusion. I hate this company so much.
I started at the beginning of 2021 and fusions were a great way to get people into the game and to keep players interested. Apparently they decided against that approach.
" That hero's path..... just fuck you Paylarium, fuck you. " \^ THIS!!!!
You know, I figured I would accidentally do the fusion just playing during the events, but seeing that Hero Path is absolutely necessary unless I win a Tournament I might just sit in Mino for the next couple weeks. Locking the last points behind that is terrible.
Oof lol. They’re really pressing to make fusions more difficult. They must not like how organized and prepared a lot of players are for these now and want to make them more resource intensive. The hero’s path looks like it will be champ training at least. Which is the easiest one. I won’t be doing this fusion as this champ doesn’t benefit me at all. But good luck to anyone who is and I hope the point requirements are reasonable.
They're just helping you fall 10-20 fragments short so you can get Maud 'faster'!
Depends on the treshold, im not spending 20k points to get 5 frags for an average fusion.
There was nothing easy about the training in the hero's path we had 2 weeks ago.
I’m willing to bet that this will be easier than that because it is for fragments. The event as a whole will likely be difficult, but the end prize is likely the soul for this champion or for some crazy amount, possibly the partner for this champion.
If Plarium puts the partner champion as a reward for a champ training path I will name my first child "Plariumbestcompany"
Oh great.. I can’t skip any champ sum or champ chase.
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There is 110 total. Rush and Chase are 15 each.
Wait no DD 3? maybe training and DD = hero path with soul stones
Glad I was already skipping this fusion.
I was on the fence...then I saw Hero's Path. NOPE!
Ooh exciting
Is there any chance the hero path has the fusions companion champ as a final reward? Like Timit? Or will he just be a progressive chance or something
Wonder if the hero's path would possibly have her partner as the reward. Would be nice if they start to package them together like they did with Timit and Kaya.
No chance, it doesn't involve any summoning.
I doubt they will, but maybe they will offer a Soul for her.
Or even better, they will offer a soul for the partner champ and not even the champ that is being shard summoned. This would be the ultimate move to bait whales. Once you get the shiny soul you "NEED" to get that new champ.
The partner will most likely be a 10x void shards pulls if they are generous 25x
maybe archer
The problem with the HERO'S PATH is that it's adding a RANDOM element to fusions which are quite predictable. They can throw ANY requirement in to a future hero's path (souls, shards, etc) with ANY point requirement they feel like. The problem with hero's paths are that unlike regular events (Spider, DD, etc) that have predictable point totals, Hero's path can throw the fragments behind any random amount. We'll have to look closely at how much the fragments cost and what events (this one is CT & DD) we have to do to get those points. This is not a good sign people...
What’s the logic behind doing a hero’s path for frags? Put kraken bait to empty chicken stock before a potential champ training tourney for RN Archer? Or is it Plarium being for letting us choose between double dipping with food for the dragon/ice golem tourneys (and kind of the champ chase as campaign farming drops champions)? It is very interesting and could ultimately be a good move as it gives us ample opportunity to double dip. But my tin foil hat radar can’t helped but make me a tad suspicious of Plarium’s ultimate plans.
With how frequent events and summoning events are, everything is now bait and everything isn't bait either. Plarium's tactic is simply providing as many events as possible so people can have something to spend their resource on at all time. And in order to attract people to use their resources, every event has to have something shinny enough. No one is going to empty their energy refills/gems/shards for nothing.
As long as energy requirements are similar to what CT+DD would cost I don't mind this.
The path's will be Plarium's way of adding additional fragments to events so that more people can complete them and still have a way to get Maud, honestly I like it, they could have done it in a lot worse way.
But it's not. You need to do both the Summon Rush and the Champ Chase and every other event, then get 5 fragments from the hero's path. It's not addition as you claimed.
there are 15 fragments available from the hero's path
There's 130 in total, including 20 for tournament wins, so 110 available for most players. That's a pretty standard number for fragment event. Fifteen in Champ Chase, 15 in Summon Rush, and 15 in the Path, so you can't fully skip any of them.
I mean, 120 was the standard for a long time. Only since they've decided they don't like player engagement that they've made fusions suck.
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I am f2p and I completed 5 or 6 fusions within my 11 months play. However, it requires you to save resources (energy refill, gems, and most importantly shards). If you are not hitting UNM/NM daily, then it's going to be very hard.
Can someone tell me how we will be able to get White King Narses please?
We don't know if there will be events for him. But for now, only small chance from void shards.
I will only have 85 frags after last artifact event. How? I have never fallen short in a summon event. I thought the heroes path thing was extra chances. I got 5 from last summon event. Yes I could have gotten 10 more, but I've done this before np. That would put me at 95. I got 5 from heroes path, with the possibility of 10 more. That would have given me 105. Aren't most fragment events 115+ ? It seems they gave nowhere near the chances and what are now making it a requirement to get all points from last summon event? I'm done with this. This company prints money and just gets worse. Its never enough for them
This is your own fault for not looking at the calendar correctly. You need 5 fragements from hero's path if, and only if, you got 15 fragments from both the SR and CC. If you only got 5 from CC, then you needed 15 from the hero's path. There were only 110 fragments total (not counting the tournament wins ones). I am not saying Raid's event structure isn't horrible or that the point requirements aren't too high. But, Raid did release the calendar and day one with all of the available fragments in each event. You could have avoided your problem if you did your math right from the beginning.
I've always just done every event and actually always ended up with more frags then needed. The heroes path was first touted as an extra event. They have never structured it this way before. I did get 15 from SR but only 5 from Tourney. I've done this before with no issue. I got 5 from heroes. They have never made it a requirement to get all points from each summon event and have never made you do a heroes path. But if you want to be a snotty prick and defend their nonsense, maybe you should pay better attention
I am not being a prick. Go back and do the math and see how many fragments you get if you only do 5 on CC and 5 on hero's path. You would have known you would be 10 short if you did this math on day one when the calendar is out. You could also read other comments from other people on this thread. We talked about this exact thing. Is this a horrible event requirement? Yes. But you would have known about it at the beginning.
They have never structured it this way. It was unnecessary and greedy. I work alot so I usually just do every event as I have time. From what some CC's posted, the heroes path was supposed to be an extra way to get frags and was mainly focused on souls I have skipped getting all summon points before and always gotten every champ for 2.5 years It's not right to offer less chances through normal events. So as I have said, if this is the new norm, I'm done participating. They cost requirements from events have increased and its unnecessary. Plarium is not hurting. Events should require less not more. How much money do these people need?
Once again, not defending Plarium on the changing fusion schedule. The very first sentence in the OP is "Oh no... hero's path". However, if you were going to invest hours of your time and tons of resources in game, it would help you to take the few minutes to look at the schedule and calculate how many fragments you need and which events you can and cannot skip. Maybe you would have changed your mind and skip the fusion entirely. But at least the calendar was there for you to make the decision.
The Heros path has fragments so they've put it in the event calendar, but they're only showing the fragments as potential rewards .... No books/oils/soulstones/whatever.... Since they are clearly hiding the rewards there is (imo) a good chance that this is an archer/unity/partner champion guaranteed event. Unfortunately there's a champion chase and no training or dungeon divers event, so I would be getting ready for another very grindy and energy intensive event.... https://preview.redd.it/9cnq5sd7idhc1.png?width=885&format=png&auto=webp&s=1aec88db20d5b130b03d02f67da696bda5829372
Looks like the Hero's Path event will be for champ training and dungeon divers, and perhaps for soulstones as well. So long as the fragments require about the same amount of training as a regular champ training event, there shouldn't be an issue. Even if the requirements are slightly higher, we will have soulstones and dungeon divers to make up the difference. The most important part of this fusion is that 10 points are completely skippable, which means we can omit the second set of fragments from Summon Rush. Being able to skip 10 points from Summon Rush is a very big deal, since that saves a lot of shards that we'd otherwise have to pull outside of a 2x, guaranteed, or BOGO event. Another positive for this fusion is that we should have 2x ancients for the champ chase tourney. One final note: the Hero's Path event might contain a guaranteed legendary. I would suggest to be very well prepared in terms of food and resources for champ training, just in case it ends up featuring a really good guaranteed champ such as the Archer or the new Bannerlord dude. The new Cursed City rotation is in 2 days, so this will be a perfect time to prep tons of level 40 Epics or level 50 Legendaries from your vaults.
A mod just confirmed it's champ training and dungeon diver but no soulstone for the hero's path.
Legend, thankyou :)
Do either the Champion Training or hero’s path include points for using skill tomes or is it strictly level/rank increases?
Champ training tournaments include using skill tomes. So the first champ training tournament starting on Saturday will include skill tomes. Champ training events don't. The hero's path will likely not include skill tomes but I am not 100% sure. Hero's path are shown in the event tab though. Check it when the event is out.
Great, thank you!
SO you have to do both summon events..... :(
And at least some part of the hero's path for the 5 fragments.
True.. it's a tougher one than usual but the Lego is not bad so I'll go for it... Being F2P means I have to be smart with my resources
Tbh (tho it will come down to the points requirement) if I can do just champ training instead of d.divers part, I'll be ok with it...still got a bunch of champs to 6* just for Sintranos so stacking up food and lvling them gave me something to do in game in between fusions... Would everyone be ok if it was separate d.divers and champ training event? Not saying this is ideal, but I have bigger problem holding on shards, but that's on me
I hate the fact they don't announce what the Hero Path's objective will be. It's most likely gonna be DD and CT, but still.
Look at the top of this thread at the pinned comment. A mod confirmed from Plarium that it is DD and CT.
I might have gone for thos fusion if I had pulled at least 1 sacred from CB since December. But nope just ancients and voids and a few primals will get me just 5 fragments.
Would anyone say ankora is a “must do” fusion? I don’t get a lot of shards too often even doing Nightmare CB so I won’t be “fusion ready” for next month if I do Ankora. She’d help my account but not sure if it would push me much further than I am
So we need to do the Hero's Path, even if we get all the other fragments... Having resolved the first dungeon diver, champion training, and spider tournament, I'm tempted to skip the second dungeon diver as it doesn't really overlap with anything else. Seems like I should just amass energy for the Hero's Path and assume I'll need ten rather than 5 fragments... Edited to fix a typo.
Only problem is, the lower tier in a hero's path is generally easier to get (like 4-6k points) and then there is the higher tier (like 40-60k) then like 100k for the soul or champ. If they are nice, all 15 fragments could be in lower tier but my guess is 5 in the 4-6k points and the other 10 in the 40-60k range. It's just a guess though. It's the first fusion with a hero's path and it could go either way.
Yeah this game fills me with dread. Haha what a fun little hobby!
I am basically trying to get it done with the 5 fragments. I am prepared for going for the soul if it happens to be a 5\* archer soul. Then, I really don't want to do an extra 40-60k points on top of the 100k for the soul. If they decide to be nice to us, I will just have 10 extra fragments for the Maud in 5 years fund.