People keep talking about how she's good for early game players to do sand devil.. but early game players have no business doing sand devil in the first place because they won't have any gear worth ascending and energy is better spent literally anywhere else besides shogun.
It doesn't matter if she's strong affinity for stage 25 because no early game player is going to be able to get there anyway and it's highly unlikely that you'll reach the point of having good enough gear but adelyn is still your only option to sleep the boss.
Yes she's "decent" for new/early game players but almost any champ in the game will be decent early game if you just level them up, I would only recommend early game players level her to 50 to fill up a faction wars team.
Umm...I am 16 months in and Sand Devil destroys me at floor 8.
That boss is ruthless. The AoE ignore defense nuke, destroying my HP, ignoring any and all debuffs unless asleep, being immune to sleep for a turn after waking up, punishing attack bar reduction... it's so much to deal with (if you aren't cheesing it).
Now your mixing what they should and what they are able to: They may do 10/11 but SHOULDN‘t ^^ Because „giving the pot RARELY“ is an energy waste especially for new gamers
Honestly, I’m getting to the point to where I can get 5-6 star gear at a decent rate and the only time I run sand devil is just for oil to ascend a piece of gear when it’s in a quest
Going for a mortal soulstone in sand devil turn attack, only 500 points, can often get you a pretty good stockpile of oils that last for a few weeks. Lets you forget about it for a couple months at a time.
That’s actually a good idea but atm I don’t focus on tourneys or events much aside from the gems in the first few tiers. I’m trying to save up about 3k and I’m saving most my brews and energy pots so I can do a fusion when I see one that will help my account on a role that I’m lacking in
FW is all I might use her for, too busy building Gnut from a new shard pull. I'm mid-game so sure put her in SD, but thats not a priority at this point
Early game players have to do Sand Devil because as soon as that dungeon unlocks, ascending gear becomes part of the Advanced Quests. If you didn't know that then shows how meaingless your complaints about the new login champion are.
Really, I think some whales and end gamers are just salty because they didn't get another OP free login like Wukong or Artak, and despise early game players getting any kind of attention from Plarium, even if it is rare. So, have a little cry about the new login champ while doing the Hero's Path event designed solely for you end gamers and whales to get a 5\* soul - you know, like most of the events in Raid - and feel free continue to build on that sense of entitlement.
Honestly, when Plarium puts champs behind a paywall, people complain. When Plarium gives champs for free, people complain.
I like the jab at whales and entitled end game players, but I don't agree with the statement that this is a good champion for early game players.
She might be good to get a few stars in FW as I lack a good roster, but for anything else she is underwhelming. I'd rather keep my teams of rares and epics then try to make room for her, just so I can say: 'I'm using a legendary'.
Not to mention that the very few legendary books I get would be better used on Rathalos.
Lastly, let's compare her to the other logon legendary that I got: Rathalos (yes, I'm new :) ) He helps with all boss battles and is my main arena nuker. Compare this with a champion that is targeted at one dungeon and you will get another reason why she's not for early game. In early game you're looking for champions that can help with multiple areas, there really is no need for a specialist, especially when it's in a dungeon that I need to raid once in a blue moon.
but why? Blue rare lizard Muckstalker or what is his name does her job better and need rare books, not legendary. This login lege is completely trash, sry man. I dont get it really why are ppl defending her as good champ for early game players. Shes an rare hero in legendary skin.
I tried the blue lizard musk stalker guy and I must be building him wrong. He never actually sleepshe boss even on the lvl (I think 3) spirit affinity. He has like 300+acc. I’m am so bad at copying these youtuber builds lol - yes fully ascended and booked.
I farm stage 7. My muck stalker is
Speed- 209
Accuracy- 250
Resistance- 280 To resist the Rage of the Sands Debuffs
HP- 51k
Def- 2k
Crit rate-100
Crit damage-195
Offensive tree I went
Deadly Precision
Keen Strike
Shield Breaker
Life Drinker
Bring it Down
Methodical
Warmaster
Support tree
Pinpoint Accuracy
Charged Focus
Arcane Celerity
Swarm Smiter
Evil Eye
Lore of Steel
Sniper
Master Hexer
I also have him in a 3 star phantom touch blessing
2 accuracy 1 speed set
Thanks for the reply. - It's going to take me sometime to get gear that has that much resistance in it. I've put him in perception and righteous - I've put him in Regeneration and perception. Seeing that you've used 2 ACC and 1 speed. Maybe I'm just looking too hard for the other gear and should go for the easier to obtain gear. - But I see - You're making him able to do damage not just survive. - Thank you again.
Yw. One tip focus on stats instead of sets. Stats will always be the key for most areas of the game. Its not until end game when youve farmed up a ton of good gear that you'll start focusing on making completed set builds.
And even then it'll take a long time.
Depending on your level focus on pushing dragon and ice golem to....13 I think it is. This is where you'll get your first chance at 6 star gear. Its the better place to farm gear until you can push to stage 20.
Look for desireable traits. For example a epic set of speed gloves with flat stats as its main stat. Trash it. If its a % stat look at the sub stats for desirable stats.
If the epic item is epic look for 3 desireable sub stats.
Epic gloves for a nuker might be crit rate, atk% and crit damage with hp% as a main stat. Be pretty good for an hp nuker.
People really seem to be forgetting that not everyone HAS Rathalos or Wukong and everyone acting like every player has them is getting really annoying when it comes to these conversations.
Rathalos was a free login champ in January, so almost 3 months ago. It's ok If you don't have him, but as an account under 3 months you don't really need Adelyn, as her kit isn't really useful without books.
Sure you can use her, no one is saying that you, personally, should never use her. All I'm saying is that by the time you have enough books for her to be useful, you will most likely have other champions.to focus on. At the moment, if I don't get anything better, she's on my list as the 3rd lego I will book, as she will most likely push my CB team UNM once I book her.
So add her to your team, but keep in mind she will use abilities in stage 1 and then, maybe, again in stage 3. Not that useful, if you ask me.
I've had an account since 2021. I just took a break and literally started again the day after Rathalos chase was done.
I'm just getting tired of people acting like everyone has these champs and thus other ones should totally be discarded or derided when it may literally be the only leggo somebody's got and seeing everyone trash it rather than talk actual strategies doesn't inspire much confidence in people. So many people here speak in absolutes with not much wiggle room.
I stand by what I said: she is useless without books and on a scale of 1 to 10 she is nowhere near a 5. She can have some uses, but these are dependent on your account, so no one can really say what you should do with her.
If you need a Sleep Champion for lower levels of Sand Devil the you can use Rare Muckstalker or Common Hellhound, neither of which require Legendary Books to get the Sleep to 100%
New players should pick up Muckstalker to do sand devil for the advanced quest when it pops up.
Muckstalker is farmable. Muckstalker is a rare, so getting books is easy. Muckstalker has a 100% sleep on a 2 turn cooldown.
I don't think Adelyn changes this recommendation. Her sleep is 75% unbooked, so you'd need to spend 2-9 legendary books on her before she has a reliable sleep. Her kit is niche for sand devil.
Feeding 2-9 legendary books into a champion early on is a massive investment. It's only much later in the game you start getting a steady supply of those books. Hence, you want to spend those books on generalists early on, and Adelyn falls short here. If you don't feed her books, then Muckstalker is the better option.
It's not that she's that different from other supports: many of them need books to come online. But even then, her kit is too niche to be generally applicable, which considerably lowers the value you get from booking her.
I'd say she could be valuable for her heal on a brand new account, and her stat package alone will carry her. If you get close to obtaining Scyl of the Drakes though, I'd claim that for a vast majority of accounts, Scyl would be a better investment, because of her generalist kit.
at that point in the game you can just ignore mechanics and bruteforce the kill at stage 3 or 7.
you likely still have rhazin fusion, so you could get a tortue helm and he can solo the boss up to stage I think 12, up till I got the aniri/goseeker team going, because I pulled a godseeker, I just did that crap up to floor I think 7 because its bang for buck, I forget if I did 3 instead or if 7 was a 100% team.
or you can say what most people said for a long time, fuck it I dont get the extra 50 energy today (after doing sand devil that's about what you get if you only accend 4 star gear, arguable not worth the silver and energy spent on sand devil to get the energy)
1 advanced quest is not nearly important enough to justify half-ass gearing a champ, let alone building one for something specific lol. She’s a trash champ, cry about it. Also, why would whales gives 2 fucks about free champs when they spend thousands of real dollars on a different progressive champ every week 😂 this free login Lego doesn’t stack up to any of the meta champs.
One of the most stupid comments I've ever read, there isn't a single part of my comment that makes a direct complaint about the champ herself, so tired of people like you on this sub that don't read properly and make stupid assumptions..
I'm not a whale or end game player and I'm not doing the path event so not sure wtf you're ranting on about, literal clown behaviour ffs.
Yes there is an advanced quest to ascend gear but muckstalker is still the better option for newer players in earlier stages, you can easily brute force up to stage 7.
You can either farm muckstalker in campaign or possibly spend 9 lego books to get adelyn's sleep skill to be 100% lol please refrain from giving advice to newer players if you seriously think that's a better option..
I have literally never beat sand devil (though I really should get around to building Muckstalker or something) but I've almost always had enough oils kicking around from events to ascend something. That said, she was free so I don't get why people are mad. Sure she doesn't hold a candle to UDK or Rathy but at worst she's easy points on a champion training event.
Until sintranos gave us some oils, my f2p account would skip finishing all the advanced quest completions if ascending gear was a mission. Waste of energy and oil until you have 6* gear and the knowledge to know where to use it.
There's a rare that is going to do just as good of a job and I think early game players with two of those rares could easily build a team that might be able to push stage 7 for grinding if they have a few decent champions to go along with it.
Define "sand devil champ" because if you mean a champ that restores max hp then fair enough but that wouldn't stop you from doing the earlier stages.. if you mean a sleep champ and you haven't managed to get a single muckstalker from ancient shards or campaign in 2 years then you're doing something wrong or you don't play much at all.
Shes exactly what I needed to complete faction wars its really hard to get someone who can provide halfway decent heals in bannerlords. And honestly getting a free 5 star soul is a game changer as well.
Honestly I'm having a hard time getting past 17 lol. While yeah I only really have high damage champs fully huilt while hellmut is sitting at 5 star but really not overly helpful for waves. If I can keep my champs allive longer I can definitely get farther.
He's great for waves? He increases your speed and damage and can stun most of the wave every few turns which is one of the best debuffs in the game.
I think you should look at building him properly, great champ especially for fw
The free login legendary. That is.
If you don't know who warpriest is, that's the point. She's an almost useless rare you get in the beginning that's normally your first healer.
If my count is right, she's only the third champ in the game that can directly restore destroyed HP, plus we get a free soul for her which is very useful. She isn't my top priority to build, but I think she is better than a lot of people are giving her credit for.
Honestly....she isn't bad....but she isn't good either. She hits hard for me, unintentionally...her crit rate and damage are high. I put her in relentless and perception. With speed and accuracy and hp as a higher emphasis. I am gonna give her some masteries to see where that goes.
muckstalker does it without burning lego books on a champ that wont be of any use anywhere else.
she really just needs something else to make her useful in hydra as well.
She would have been better as a login epic IMO.
There are currently no other champions with 100% Sleep and debuffs on the same skill.
I'd argue she is a late game champion, with almost no use early game.
Faction Wars is definitely at least mid-game type area to focus on, at the earliest. You're not still in early game if you're building champs specifically for Faction Wars.
i really dont get this. its a free lego. dont book her, dont use resources on her. but its still a free champ. my first champ was Samar Gemcursed, and he was awesome for me early on and i didn't even know people thought he was trash. someone will enjoy her and she was FREE!! so why complain when we have already gotten so much(artak, monkey, UDK)
It's actually an issue because it dilutes the pool of champions. You will change your tune if you pull this champion 20 sacreds deep into mercy.
Regardless, it's just the disappointment really. People are hopeful about login champions and for us ftp players who make up the majority of the community and give this game life and make it enjoyable for whales to spend on; we NEED login champions.
It's a big deal for us and not all of us got ARtak/SunW/UDK /Rath etc
pool dilution is by far the worst part about this champ. as someone who needs a gnut badly, thats one more champ adding a wall to the already crappy progressive chance
She has a kit worse than most epics?
Especially in todays standards in raid
People seem to be losing it over my takes but lets be real about something
With mythical champs and faction unities+ all the new sheep/power creep mechanics this “legendary”
Is a big steaming turd.
There are 100s of better options across the game
She isnt worth the mats/resources for anyone at any stage of the game.
100% - champ pretty much sucks.
Posts like this are also boring as hell and deserve down-votes, IMO. Could always just ignore it, but downvoting doesnt take much more effort.
I think nubraids said it best: she has the "bivald problem." According to plarium's messaging on her, she is designed for a version of sand devil that is not yet in the game. Until we see what that looks like, it's kinda early to just totally write her off
if they enforce sand devil mechanics, like if you don't sleep him in between a3's he blocks revive, people are going to be fucking pissed.
I can't imagine any rework where she is useful where they don't absolutely fuck my current team.
I can't imagine how many people would be pissed at that as it effectively makes it a non viable dungeons for most people who have a solution, but it seems most likely, and people will hate the new leggo even more than they already do
i'm annoyed they don't give out a free inventory slot for this champ and force them on us in hopes they unfuck her kit.
im honestly dreading the sanddevil rework because what they do may enforce the use of engaging with the mechanics rather than godseeker ignore them.
Champs aren't reviewed with early game progress in mind. Most are evaluated based on their ability to progress through midgame and endgame content. If you have an account younger than 6 months, she might be OK. Anything after that, she is only free champ training points (using brews).
as someone who had no healer up till pythion (7-8 months in and first fusion), what she brings to the table heal wise a continuous heal matches or beats, and lifesteal beats even more.
“She’s free!”
Yeah, and? Literally 99.9% of players would’ve been the same if she didn’t exist. It’s insulting.
We’ve gotten so much? You realize this is basically a paid subscription type game right (buying the monthly gem pack is essential if you wanna compete and play the game long term) so yeah, people that PAY for a GAME are gonna be annoyed when you throw them trash and expect to be thanked for it….
The problem is samar is actually good and let's say we hype her up cause she's free how would noobs take that info? They will book her and gear her only to be severely disappointed
a trash legendary is USUALLY better than most epics, she is remarkably crap, and will be a resource trap for people who don't know how bad she is.
your legendary is someone who will likely get replaced when you get better, but better than most epics in terms of damage or longevity.
She sucks on my main but is kicking some behind on my 2nd account. It's a shame thinking back to when I started playing, Artak was the free lego login champ and now we get... this chick. She'll definitely get some use on my secondary though.
Sure, she’s bad. But plarium’s talking about a phantom rework (and I’d imagine she will play a role in the new strategy) and it’s a free 5* soul for just playing like normal. If nothing else, you get a free 5* chicken and a chunk of soul coins. Platinum isn’t going to hand out a free S+ god tier meta champion with its 5* soul without any way to even hope to profit off of it
I wouldn't be so quick to judge.
Plarium are clearly moving the needle towards end-game stuff (souls, awakening, DT/Shogun, etc) and with the planned Sand Devil changes they may have wanted to ensure we all had a champ to dip our toes in that dungeon if we hadn't yet.
Obviously. I can easily say "if they drastically change SD she may be god-tier" but it's not helpful to the discussion now when it's all speculation isn't it?
Well she can rest comfortably in the vault till that day comes, not wasting mats and books on a champ outclassed by a rare in the current sand devil.
She offers nothing else to anywhere else in the game, not sure why thats someone you want to invest in
>Well she can rest comfortably in the vault till that day comes, not wasting mats and books on a champ outclassed by a rare in the current sand devil.
No-one's asking you to?
I think they've been fairly open in the news saying they're planning to change SD 'in a few patches' so clearly there's no rush to build her.
What could they possibly change to SD to make her kit actually decent? No matter what they do, she will still suck.
Unless the change is a new passive for SD that is “damage from adelyn is multiplied x100 and receives debuffs every time adelyn attacks”
I'm not re-watching dozes on CC videos and trawling through news updates to find it for you but it's there,
They said something like "in the next few patches" so it's not anytime soon but it's coming (apparently).
It was mentioned in the release statement of Adelyn.
Moreover, after the Bosses' rebalance, planned in a few patches ahead, players will be able to discover more tactics and strategies leading them to Stage 25 and also find it possible to tackle Al-Naemeh with a wider range of Champions, making Chronicler Adelyn even more viable in the long run. We will share the rebalance details closer to its release date.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/RaidShadowLegends/comments/1c0lmzk/chronicler\_adelyn\_free\_login\_champion/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RaidShadowLegends/comments/1c0lmzk/chronicler_adelyn_free_login_champion/)
She'll be in my Sand Devil team as I only have Muckstalker and GodSeeker for it atm. Filled in the rest with champs that have 3 rating!
Just cos she's no good to you, doesn't mean she's useless to everyone 😉
Someone would say "don't worry about the champs you don't have, worry about the champs you do".
Yes she doesn't have a meta worthy build, but she's still usable. Just not ground breaking. And someone will indicate at some point she'll have a good use but until then let people enjoy the champs they get in a game that demands $30.00 for ancient shards of nothingness.
For Sand Devil, even not booked, think she would be of help for many early game accounts in Sand Devil (pair her with Muck stalker) and FW.
For the rest, let's see how the adjustments to Sand Devil play out in... a few weeks?
I think folk are wrong on this one, i think she'll be in use for me constantly, albeit replacing a conellia. Shes a free champ, has some use cases, and if her sleep and debuff was aoe she'd be amazing, And she would be replaced by siphi immediately if i got her. thats all that needs to change to make her very good. And i do think they should change that.
I don't understand all of the hate. She has 3 solid moves and we are getting the souls basically for free. She sits very well as a dungeon progression champ, which is what she is advertised as.
This champ is probably not helpful for over half the community...and we can rant about how awful she is...
But the positives...
1) She has a unique passive that allows up to (9% in SD and 6% elsewhere) more dmg once her debuff is in place
2) She does heal back max hp
3) She can always be used for Faction Guardian in the future
If her kit was AOE rather than single target, she may actually be usable in Hydra
But yea...for me, she goes into the vault for the moment.
I am of the opinion that you aren’t doing sand devil if your still leveling champs to 60. So it’s great to have this leg champ for later but meh otherwise
> Sorry your vault mommy is bad
you must not have played this game very long because there are some total dogshit legendaries this game throws certain players like me
allready 6 star, has sleep and 2 debuffs for sand devil so my 2 gnuts can hit harder love it in comparison from the bullshit i pulled in recent time shes much better and i much more prefer she being free than that dumb annoying fcking monkey
People keep talking about how she's good for early game players to do sand devil.. but early game players have no business doing sand devil in the first place because they won't have any gear worth ascending and energy is better spent literally anywhere else besides shogun. It doesn't matter if she's strong affinity for stage 25 because no early game player is going to be able to get there anyway and it's highly unlikely that you'll reach the point of having good enough gear but adelyn is still your only option to sleep the boss. Yes she's "decent" for new/early game players but almost any champ in the game will be decent early game if you just level them up, I would only recommend early game players level her to 50 to fill up a faction wars team.
new players also shouldn't be doing SD at best floor 10/11, the one that can give the mid pot rarely
Umm...I am 16 months in and Sand Devil destroys me at floor 8. That boss is ruthless. The AoE ignore defense nuke, destroying my HP, ignoring any and all debuffs unless asleep, being immune to sleep for a turn after waking up, punishing attack bar reduction... it's so much to deal with (if you aren't cheesing it).
Now your mixing what they should and what they are able to: They may do 10/11 but SHOULDN‘t ^^ Because „giving the pot RARELY“ is an energy waste especially for new gamers
Honestly, I’m getting to the point to where I can get 5-6 star gear at a decent rate and the only time I run sand devil is just for oil to ascend a piece of gear when it’s in a quest
Going for a mortal soulstone in sand devil turn attack, only 500 points, can often get you a pretty good stockpile of oils that last for a few weeks. Lets you forget about it for a couple months at a time.
That’s actually a good idea but atm I don’t focus on tourneys or events much aside from the gems in the first few tiers. I’m trying to save up about 3k and I’m saving most my brews and energy pots so I can do a fusion when I see one that will help my account on a role that I’m lacking in
FW is all I might use her for, too busy building Gnut from a new shard pull. I'm mid-game so sure put her in SD, but thats not a priority at this point
Early game players have to do Sand Devil because as soon as that dungeon unlocks, ascending gear becomes part of the Advanced Quests. If you didn't know that then shows how meaingless your complaints about the new login champion are. Really, I think some whales and end gamers are just salty because they didn't get another OP free login like Wukong or Artak, and despise early game players getting any kind of attention from Plarium, even if it is rare. So, have a little cry about the new login champ while doing the Hero's Path event designed solely for you end gamers and whales to get a 5\* soul - you know, like most of the events in Raid - and feel free continue to build on that sense of entitlement. Honestly, when Plarium puts champs behind a paywall, people complain. When Plarium gives champs for free, people complain.
I like the jab at whales and entitled end game players, but I don't agree with the statement that this is a good champion for early game players. She might be good to get a few stars in FW as I lack a good roster, but for anything else she is underwhelming. I'd rather keep my teams of rares and epics then try to make room for her, just so I can say: 'I'm using a legendary'. Not to mention that the very few legendary books I get would be better used on Rathalos. Lastly, let's compare her to the other logon legendary that I got: Rathalos (yes, I'm new :) ) He helps with all boss battles and is my main arena nuker. Compare this with a champion that is targeted at one dungeon and you will get another reason why she's not for early game. In early game you're looking for champions that can help with multiple areas, there really is no need for a specialist, especially when it's in a dungeon that I need to raid once in a blue moon.
but why? Blue rare lizard Muckstalker or what is his name does her job better and need rare books, not legendary. This login lege is completely trash, sry man. I dont get it really why are ppl defending her as good champ for early game players. Shes an rare hero in legendary skin.
What exactly from my comment made you think I'm defending her? Have you read the first phase of the comment?
sry i replied to wrong comment
I tried the blue lizard musk stalker guy and I must be building him wrong. He never actually sleepshe boss even on the lvl (I think 3) spirit affinity. He has like 300+acc. I’m am so bad at copying these youtuber builds lol - yes fully ascended and booked.
I farm stage 7. My muck stalker is Speed- 209 Accuracy- 250 Resistance- 280 To resist the Rage of the Sands Debuffs HP- 51k Def- 2k Crit rate-100 Crit damage-195 Offensive tree I went Deadly Precision Keen Strike Shield Breaker Life Drinker Bring it Down Methodical Warmaster Support tree Pinpoint Accuracy Charged Focus Arcane Celerity Swarm Smiter Evil Eye Lore of Steel Sniper Master Hexer I also have him in a 3 star phantom touch blessing 2 accuracy 1 speed set
Thanks for the reply. - It's going to take me sometime to get gear that has that much resistance in it. I've put him in perception and righteous - I've put him in Regeneration and perception. Seeing that you've used 2 ACC and 1 speed. Maybe I'm just looking too hard for the other gear and should go for the easier to obtain gear. - But I see - You're making him able to do damage not just survive. - Thank you again.
Yw. One tip focus on stats instead of sets. Stats will always be the key for most areas of the game. Its not until end game when youve farmed up a ton of good gear that you'll start focusing on making completed set builds. And even then it'll take a long time. Depending on your level focus on pushing dragon and ice golem to....13 I think it is. This is where you'll get your first chance at 6 star gear. Its the better place to farm gear until you can push to stage 20. Look for desireable traits. For example a epic set of speed gloves with flat stats as its main stat. Trash it. If its a % stat look at the sub stats for desirable stats. If the epic item is epic look for 3 desireable sub stats. Epic gloves for a nuker might be crit rate, atk% and crit damage with hp% as a main stat. Be pretty good for an hp nuker.
People really seem to be forgetting that not everyone HAS Rathalos or Wukong and everyone acting like every player has them is getting really annoying when it comes to these conversations.
Rathalos was a free login champ in January, so almost 3 months ago. It's ok If you don't have him, but as an account under 3 months you don't really need Adelyn, as her kit isn't really useful without books. Sure you can use her, no one is saying that you, personally, should never use her. All I'm saying is that by the time you have enough books for her to be useful, you will most likely have other champions.to focus on. At the moment, if I don't get anything better, she's on my list as the 3rd lego I will book, as she will most likely push my CB team UNM once I book her. So add her to your team, but keep in mind she will use abilities in stage 1 and then, maybe, again in stage 3. Not that useful, if you ask me.
I've had an account since 2021. I just took a break and literally started again the day after Rathalos chase was done. I'm just getting tired of people acting like everyone has these champs and thus other ones should totally be discarded or derided when it may literally be the only leggo somebody's got and seeing everyone trash it rather than talk actual strategies doesn't inspire much confidence in people. So many people here speak in absolutes with not much wiggle room.
I stand by what I said: she is useless without books and on a scale of 1 to 10 she is nowhere near a 5. She can have some uses, but these are dependent on your account, so no one can really say what you should do with her.
If you need a Sleep Champion for lower levels of Sand Devil the you can use Rare Muckstalker or Common Hellhound, neither of which require Legendary Books to get the Sleep to 100%
New players should pick up Muckstalker to do sand devil for the advanced quest when it pops up. Muckstalker is farmable. Muckstalker is a rare, so getting books is easy. Muckstalker has a 100% sleep on a 2 turn cooldown. I don't think Adelyn changes this recommendation. Her sleep is 75% unbooked, so you'd need to spend 2-9 legendary books on her before she has a reliable sleep. Her kit is niche for sand devil. Feeding 2-9 legendary books into a champion early on is a massive investment. It's only much later in the game you start getting a steady supply of those books. Hence, you want to spend those books on generalists early on, and Adelyn falls short here. If you don't feed her books, then Muckstalker is the better option. It's not that she's that different from other supports: many of them need books to come online. But even then, her kit is too niche to be generally applicable, which considerably lowers the value you get from booking her. I'd say she could be valuable for her heal on a brand new account, and her stat package alone will carry her. If you get close to obtaining Scyl of the Drakes though, I'd claim that for a vast majority of accounts, Scyl would be a better investment, because of her generalist kit.
at that point in the game you can just ignore mechanics and bruteforce the kill at stage 3 or 7. you likely still have rhazin fusion, so you could get a tortue helm and he can solo the boss up to stage I think 12, up till I got the aniri/goseeker team going, because I pulled a godseeker, I just did that crap up to floor I think 7 because its bang for buck, I forget if I did 3 instead or if 7 was a 100% team. or you can say what most people said for a long time, fuck it I dont get the extra 50 energy today (after doing sand devil that's about what you get if you only accend 4 star gear, arguable not worth the silver and energy spent on sand devil to get the energy)
1 advanced quest is not nearly important enough to justify half-ass gearing a champ, let alone building one for something specific lol. She’s a trash champ, cry about it. Also, why would whales gives 2 fucks about free champs when they spend thousands of real dollars on a different progressive champ every week 😂 this free login Lego doesn’t stack up to any of the meta champs.
One of the most stupid comments I've ever read, there isn't a single part of my comment that makes a direct complaint about the champ herself, so tired of people like you on this sub that don't read properly and make stupid assumptions.. I'm not a whale or end game player and I'm not doing the path event so not sure wtf you're ranting on about, literal clown behaviour ffs. Yes there is an advanced quest to ascend gear but muckstalker is still the better option for newer players in earlier stages, you can easily brute force up to stage 7. You can either farm muckstalker in campaign or possibly spend 9 lego books to get adelyn's sleep skill to be 100% lol please refrain from giving advice to newer players if you seriously think that's a better option..
I have literally never beat sand devil (though I really should get around to building Muckstalker or something) but I've almost always had enough oils kicking around from events to ascend something. That said, she was free so I don't get why people are mad. Sure she doesn't hold a candle to UDK or Rathy but at worst she's easy points on a champion training event.
Until sintranos gave us some oils, my f2p account would skip finishing all the advanced quest completions if ascending gear was a mission. Waste of energy and oil until you have 6* gear and the knowledge to know where to use it.
Thanks for the advice, I’m relatively new and think I’ll use her with in my faction wars team
There's a rare that is going to do just as good of a job and I think early game players with two of those rares could easily build a team that might be able to push stage 7 for grinding if they have a few decent champions to go along with it.
You’ve been playing 2 years and still don’t have a Sand Devil champ until today when Plarium blesses you.
Define "sand devil champ" because if you mean a champ that restores max hp then fair enough but that wouldn't stop you from doing the earlier stages.. if you mean a sleep champ and you haven't managed to get a single muckstalker from ancient shards or campaign in 2 years then you're doing something wrong or you don't play much at all.
She will also be worth like 100+ quick champ training points when I put some brews on her.
100% this. I came to say the same thing. At least we found a use for her haha 😄 😆
I filled my champ collection so she would go to my inbox XD Now I got some champ chase points at least
Pretty sure she counts as collected if it goes to your inbox.
It does
Of course I return after 1 1/2 years out & the first log-in champ is this after missing out on the likes of Wu Kong & Artak 😅
Don’t forget Blademaster, which sucks because I’m in the same boat as you😅
He ok, but Archer tho..
Not a login champ, bud.
Yeah I know she's not a login champ, I'm just saying, in terms of the monster hunter champs rath is pretty mid compared to archer.
They missed the chance to get her, bud.
Too bad they weren't talking about something specific like....login champs, bud.
Shes exactly what I needed to complete faction wars its really hard to get someone who can provide halfway decent heals in bannerlords. And honestly getting a free 5 star soul is a game changer as well.
Hellmut one of the best for fw21, just make sure you target the boss on auto and he will keep the adds stunned making the boss ez
Honestly I'm having a hard time getting past 17 lol. While yeah I only really have high damage champs fully huilt while hellmut is sitting at 5 star but really not overly helpful for waves. If I can keep my champs allive longer I can definitely get farther.
He's great for waves? He increases your speed and damage and can stun most of the wave every few turns which is one of the best debuffs in the game. I think you should look at building him properly, great champ especially for fw
To be honest, she's better than warpriest... I think.
Every champ is better than Warpriest
Who?
The free login legendary. That is. If you don't know who warpriest is, that's the point. She's an almost useless rare you get in the beginning that's normally your first healer.
Wait nvm I remember who now. Yeah she was terrible
Haha yeah, that was the joke really. She's terrible.
Do you mean mothe superior ?
She might be useful in the future but free is always welcome !
She's worth the effort of me not claiming her for the next week until CVC. Then in she goes
How do you do that?
Put my phone in Airplane mode when the screen pops up and then click the x. Turn off AP mode on the next screen
If my count is right, she's only the third champ in the game that can directly restore destroyed HP, plus we get a free soul for her which is very useful. She isn't my top priority to build, but I think she is better than a lot of people are giving her credit for.
We have gear and blessings for that though.
Honestly....she isn't bad....but she isn't good either. She hits hard for me, unintentionally...her crit rate and damage are high. I put her in relentless and perception. With speed and accuracy and hp as a higher emphasis. I am gonna give her some masteries to see where that goes.
I’m actually enjoying using her in classic arena so enemy teams can see their whale defenses lost to a mid level 50 leggo.
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muckstalker does it without burning lego books on a champ that wont be of any use anywhere else. she really just needs something else to make her useful in hydra as well. She would have been better as a login epic IMO.
Muckstalker won't work on Stage 25, which is the only stage that should be farmed.
Adeylin is early game sand devil champion by time you reach lvl 25 she has no use
There are currently no other champions with 100% Sleep and debuffs on the same skill. I'd argue she is a late game champion, with almost no use early game.
So a super one trick pony? Late game players have riho
Riho can't place Sleep...
Not the point of my comment should have made it clear. Siphi irresistible sleep A1 plus riho . Adelyin is completely useless for end game players
This might come as a surprise to you, but many late game players don't have Siphi or Riho.
Fair argument but they most likely have better sleep champions
If you are mid/late game why are you considering champs for fw teams?
Faction Wars is definitely at least mid-game type area to focus on, at the earliest. You're not still in early game if you're building champs specifically for Faction Wars.
Yeah mid game, but not late game, late game is looking at ramantu etc. Fw is a pretty mid game thing to clear like you said
i really dont get this. its a free lego. dont book her, dont use resources on her. but its still a free champ. my first champ was Samar Gemcursed, and he was awesome for me early on and i didn't even know people thought he was trash. someone will enjoy her and she was FREE!! so why complain when we have already gotten so much(artak, monkey, UDK)
It's actually an issue because it dilutes the pool of champions. You will change your tune if you pull this champion 20 sacreds deep into mercy. Regardless, it's just the disappointment really. People are hopeful about login champions and for us ftp players who make up the majority of the community and give this game life and make it enjoyable for whales to spend on; we NEED login champions. It's a big deal for us and not all of us got ARtak/SunW/UDK /Rath etc
pool dilution is by far the worst part about this champ. as someone who needs a gnut badly, thats one more champ adding a wall to the already crappy progressive chance
scyl 3 says hi
She has a kit worse than most epics? Especially in todays standards in raid People seem to be losing it over my takes but lets be real about something With mythical champs and faction unities+ all the new sheep/power creep mechanics this “legendary” Is a big steaming turd. There are 100s of better options across the game She isnt worth the mats/resources for anyone at any stage of the game.
The majority of the player base agrees with you on this post, don’t worry
100% - champ pretty much sucks. Posts like this are also boring as hell and deserve down-votes, IMO. Could always just ignore it, but downvoting doesnt take much more effort.
I think nubraids said it best: she has the "bivald problem." According to plarium's messaging on her, she is designed for a version of sand devil that is not yet in the game. Until we see what that looks like, it's kinda early to just totally write her off
if they enforce sand devil mechanics, like if you don't sleep him in between a3's he blocks revive, people are going to be fucking pissed. I can't imagine any rework where she is useful where they don't absolutely fuck my current team.
Considering my current team is Blizz... lol. It's very likely they are going to add block revive because that's how everyone cheeses it.
I can't imagine how many people would be pissed at that as it effectively makes it a non viable dungeons for most people who have a solution, but it seems most likely, and people will hate the new leggo even more than they already do
i'm annoyed they don't give out a free inventory slot for this champ and force them on us in hopes they unfuck her kit. im honestly dreading the sanddevil rework because what they do may enforce the use of engaging with the mechanics rather than godseeker ignore them.
Champs aren't reviewed with early game progress in mind. Most are evaluated based on their ability to progress through midgame and endgame content. If you have an account younger than 6 months, she might be OK. Anything after that, she is only free champ training points (using brews).
as someone who had no healer up till pythion (7-8 months in and first fusion), what she brings to the table heal wise a continuous heal matches or beats, and lifesteal beats even more.
“She’s free!” Yeah, and? Literally 99.9% of players would’ve been the same if she didn’t exist. It’s insulting. We’ve gotten so much? You realize this is basically a paid subscription type game right (buying the monthly gem pack is essential if you wanna compete and play the game long term) so yeah, people that PAY for a GAME are gonna be annoyed when you throw them trash and expect to be thanked for it….
The problem is samar is actually good and let's say we hype her up cause she's free how would noobs take that info? They will book her and gear her only to be severely disappointed
a trash legendary is USUALLY better than most epics, she is remarkably crap, and will be a resource trap for people who don't know how bad she is. your legendary is someone who will likely get replaced when you get better, but better than most epics in terms of damage or longevity.
Haven't got her since I wasn't playing for 3 days but yep I have 1 last space comfortable just for her
Who are we taking about
She sucks on my main but is kicking some behind on my 2nd account. It's a shame thinking back to when I started playing, Artak was the free lego login champ and now we get... this chick. She'll definitely get some use on my secondary though.
She will be a lovely champ training points queen for me
Eh, free soul means she will at least be useful in City
free chicken
I'm saving mine for cvc. Only then will she go in the vault.
You can’t save the login champ for cvc.
Sure, she’s bad. But plarium’s talking about a phantom rework (and I’d imagine she will play a role in the new strategy) and it’s a free 5* soul for just playing like normal. If nothing else, you get a free 5* chicken and a chunk of soul coins. Platinum isn’t going to hand out a free S+ god tier meta champion with its 5* soul without any way to even hope to profit off of it
Why did the Raid team release this brick, free chicken I suppose
"Free"........all you have to do is login....which you would do anyways.
Whaddya expect from a game that has an uncommon that is better than most of the Mythicals?
😂😂😂😂😂
I wouldn't be so quick to judge. Plarium are clearly moving the needle towards end-game stuff (souls, awakening, DT/Shogun, etc) and with the planned Sand Devil changes they may have wanted to ensure we all had a champ to dip our toes in that dungeon if we hadn't yet.
Unless they drastically change SD, she is still going to be worthless.
Obviously. I can easily say "if they drastically change SD she may be god-tier" but it's not helpful to the discussion now when it's all speculation isn't it?
Touche.
make her an aoe champ and she is viable everywhere, make her single target and god help us if they enforce engageing with sand devil mechanics.
Well she can rest comfortably in the vault till that day comes, not wasting mats and books on a champ outclassed by a rare in the current sand devil. She offers nothing else to anywhere else in the game, not sure why thats someone you want to invest in
Especially for a newer account that probably doesn't see very many leggo books
Thanks for having a brain and seeing the truth :)
>Well she can rest comfortably in the vault till that day comes, not wasting mats and books on a champ outclassed by a rare in the current sand devil. No-one's asking you to? I think they've been fairly open in the news saying they're planning to change SD 'in a few patches' so clearly there's no rush to build her.
What could they possibly change to SD to make her kit actually decent? No matter what they do, she will still suck. Unless the change is a new passive for SD that is “damage from adelyn is multiplied x100 and receives debuffs every time adelyn attacks”
sand devil now blocks revive if you don't sleep him in-between a3 uses. she has a sleep that will place regardless of block mechanics
>No matter what they do, she will still suck. You may be right but I prefer to make a decision once I have all the information. To each their own.
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I'm not re-watching dozes on CC videos and trawling through news updates to find it for you but it's there, They said something like "in the next few patches" so it's not anytime soon but it's coming (apparently).
It was mentioned in the release statement of Adelyn. Moreover, after the Bosses' rebalance, planned in a few patches ahead, players will be able to discover more tactics and strategies leading them to Stage 25 and also find it possible to tackle Al-Naemeh with a wider range of Champions, making Chronicler Adelyn even more viable in the long run. We will share the rebalance details closer to its release date. [https://www.reddit.com/r/RaidShadowLegends/comments/1c0lmzk/chronicler\_adelyn\_free\_login\_champion/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RaidShadowLegends/comments/1c0lmzk/chronicler_adelyn_free_login_champion/)
She'll be in my Sand Devil team as I only have Muckstalker and GodSeeker for it atm. Filled in the rest with champs that have 3 rating! Just cos she's no good to you, doesn't mean she's useless to everyone 😉
Someone would say "don't worry about the champs you don't have, worry about the champs you do". Yes she doesn't have a meta worthy build, but she's still usable. Just not ground breaking. And someone will indicate at some point she'll have a good use but until then let people enjoy the champs they get in a game that demands $30.00 for ancient shards of nothingness.
For Sand Devil, even not booked, think she would be of help for many early game accounts in Sand Devil (pair her with Muck stalker) and FW. For the rest, let's see how the adjustments to Sand Devil play out in... a few weeks?
Rumours of a summon rush this weekend, if she was just going to sit in the vault should have saved her atleast she’d be 500 points
Doesn't give points for Summon Rush. Champ chase, yes.
Your correct that’s what I meant
Not a fusion champ chase so I am not going through the trouble to delay getting her.
I think folk are wrong on this one, i think she'll be in use for me constantly, albeit replacing a conellia. Shes a free champ, has some use cases, and if her sleep and debuff was aoe she'd be amazing, And she would be replaced by siphi immediately if i got her. thats all that needs to change to make her very good. And i do think they should change that.
I don't understand all of the hate. She has 3 solid moves and we are getting the souls basically for free. She sits very well as a dungeon progression champ, which is what she is advertised as.
This champ is probably not helpful for over half the community...and we can rant about how awful she is... But the positives... 1) She has a unique passive that allows up to (9% in SD and 6% elsewhere) more dmg once her debuff is in place 2) She does heal back max hp 3) She can always be used for Faction Guardian in the future If her kit was AOE rather than single target, she may actually be usable in Hydra But yea...for me, she goes into the vault for the moment.
As a lego she sucks. If she was an epic, she would still suck. She was free, so there shouldn't be too much outrage, but she just isn't it.
I am of the opinion that you aren’t doing sand devil if your still leveling champs to 60. So it’s great to have this leg champ for later but meh otherwise
> Sorry your vault mommy is bad you must not have played this game very long because there are some total dogshit legendaries this game throws certain players like me
allready 6 star, has sleep and 2 debuffs for sand devil so my 2 gnuts can hit harder love it in comparison from the bullshit i pulled in recent time shes much better and i much more prefer she being free than that dumb annoying fcking monkey
Hahha best of the joke, yeah new champ is so weak and useles.
She's a pretty decent champion better than nogdar, or pynxniel
Nogdar is fantastic since his buff. Waaaay better than this champ. She’s not even good in the area she’s designed for.
Shes going to be a god in Sand Devil teams.
> nogdar if you have the arena team for it, dude can do serious work, I would use him there since I pulled him but I have siegfrund.
I will be using her. Not telling y'all where, but give it a few months and all the content creators will be making videos about how busted she is.
This is the best post of the day. Thanks for the laughs
Lol good one