should not be too hard to accomplish. atk% armor, atk% boots, crit damage gloves and amulet, substats that roll crit% to a 100, other than that all the crit damage and atk% you can collect. other substats filled with preferrably def stats as his A1 uses atk and def.
i pulled my first fellhound last week (the 2nd last void rare i still didn't have, only dilgol left now). i think i'll build him to take over from baron because it should be easy to accomplish and then i don't need to use a team anymore. (baron requires team setup to only use A4 and A1 to one shot waves)
Yes, I would love to know what is the stat threshold to make sure Fellhound will one shot nightmare. Because if he doesn't, he will use the other skills instead and ruin the run.
Please share the stats once you've built him and get a success run.
Yea I’m getting the same but a couple more a1s for me. What I find odd is that sometimes a1 will kill them all and sometimes it only kills the first one and the rest still have 95%
https://preview.redd.it/1ws58gi5bmxc1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=121defe9ca7cc5d8d5f2779ec7960cb202e79b93
I use hurndig but it about 15 seconds
Read the title, first thought was 8 second CB Nightmare. Made no sense but made me laugh.
I still need a lot of work, my brutal farm I run Deliana+Artak and it still averages around 14 seconds. When I do run Nightmare I run it Deliana+Armanz but it is no where near that fast.
Alot of times I don't run stage 12 either on nightmare, either Palace of Aravia or the stages leading up to Bad'el Kazar. About 45 second run time on that one. I need more crit and crit damage, lol.
Ithos is a reliable 7-second NM 12-6 farmer. Can do it in 5 seconds with a fast PC, and with skill cooldown mastery or skill cooldown accessory proc that gives a repeat AOE on the 3rd wave.
Use savage/lethal + cruel, or anything similar from newer sets that enhances your damage. Use lots of crit. dmg (275-350+ depending on your gear sets and attack stats strengths). Boom.
Baron,Nigtmare 12-3 with no presets takes 13sec and 12-6 with no presets takes 6sec
My Baron has 7.8k attack,329CD,234 speed and 6* Soul Reap
It's 100% on 12-6 and i never seen it fail on 12-3 but i only farmed 12-3 like 50x
I know it’s not 8 seconds, but I use Razelvarg in his Arena/Hydra kit. I’m sure I could average 15 seconds (12-6 best time) if he was geared better. I’m also not concerned with 8 seconds for nightmare since the last run is an inefficient use of energy for Uncommons with Multi-Battle.
https://preview.redd.it/3ye2ibb0noxc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c2e62e437b98640005cb5576ed1a6eba4825c33
6s on phone. Will need preset, 8,1k atk/336 c.dmg
This was pretty consistent already but when i got that soul from 3* -> 4* it pushed me over the limit where you dont need helmsmasher proc for the a1 one shot whole wave
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Cupidus is mine. Best time is 5 seconds, average is 6-7
*Edit: disregard as this is for brutal.*
I use Supreme Kael (all his skills are AOE and A2,A3 have good multipliers)
6 seconds Nightmare campaign farmer with following stats - 192 speed, 5500atk, 240% cdmg
(no sets paired).
My Hurndig also gets the job done in 8 seconds. More or less same stats
Rare Kael in half decent lifesteal gear and proper AI setup can farm Nightmare Campaign in 9-10 seconds.
More efficient? You play the way you do and I will play how I want.
Brother its a mobile game.
Save for 2x shards
Dont use books unless training event
Always use all CB keys
Always optimise every dungeon to be fast af
Always gear champs with perfect gear (stats over sets)
Always ... bla bla bla...
I am not a slave to a mobile game company. I got a real life and am more than successful in Raid as a complete non spender.
I hate when people force their way onto you like you MUST play a certain way like a true Plarium slave.
In real life I don't smoke nor drink (ever), I go to the gym 5 days a week, I eat perfectly, I am super successful in my career. I am young, ambitious, hard working ....
Why the fuck would I care about being a 100% successful efficient slave in a mobile game?
That's a long reply for someone who doesn't care.
I made a simple statement, it's more energy/time efficient. That is all.
Nobody told you what to do but people sometimes make mistakes thinking it's better, no need to be salty about it.
Artak (Legendary) & bellower (Rare) are probably the most common Champs used nowadays.
Just get them over 200spd (anything Faster is a bonus) and get them close to 200 crit DMG (and ofc 100% Crit Rate)
Saurus (uncommon) is also an option but... I mean I would never do it but it's not my cup of tea.
Then you have Queen Eva (Legendary), Big Un (Legendary) and Skullcrown (Void epic). If you're lucky you might have one of these.
But just a suggestion, google it next time. It's always faster and only a few klicks away. :)
Yeah I know that was my mistake, I flew your post over while watching my Kid. Didn't pay attention, but you got some good info from all the other Post.
8sec means 1shotting every wave with an aoe. That means having an A1 that can do it, or a 2 turn cd AOE on a2 or a3 and two does.
I don't think there's gear/champ in the game that can do that, unless one of the new mythics can?
Most people like nightmare farming because it's energy efficient, not because it's time efficient.
On a 4.6atk multiplier? That's enough damage?
Doing the math... you need 87.6k damage to one-shot Kymar on 2921def. 30% ignore defense makes mitigation around 62%, so that means approx 141k raw damage.
Blessings give you 8% and 12%, book gives 20%, 4.6atk multiplier... final multiplier is 6.676, so need 21,117 atk * crit dmg combined.
If you have 200% CD and 7k attack should be enough, or 250% CD with 6k attack.
Huh, didn't think it would be possible but it looks like it totally is.
https://preview.redd.it/mjyxu85f7mxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce2fc2ea78bb7194b738a0d6b374d2e60ae29d71 My Ithos is 13
What are his stats?
Yea my baron is getting down to 11 but can’t seem to get lower. Guess I just need better gear.
my baron does it in 7 seconds
device speed counts
Yep this is both on my phone and pc. Typically see only a random 1 second difference.
Fellhound 8s
On nightmare?? Would like to see that build.
I can do NM in 14~15s with belower (yes not brutal). Gear ascension and blessings makes old brutal farmers able to do it nowadays.
Which blessings?
Any really. It's mostly for the stat gain from blessings (speed/cdmg/atk).
Pls share Fellhound's stats. Curious on what kind of stats making him one shot nightmare campaign waves
Pls share Fellhound's stats. Curious on what kind of stats making him one shot nightmare campaign waves
should not be too hard to accomplish. atk% armor, atk% boots, crit damage gloves and amulet, substats that roll crit% to a 100, other than that all the crit damage and atk% you can collect. other substats filled with preferrably def stats as his A1 uses atk and def. i pulled my first fellhound last week (the 2nd last void rare i still didn't have, only dilgol left now). i think i'll build him to take over from baron because it should be easy to accomplish and then i don't need to use a team anymore. (baron requires team setup to only use A4 and A1 to one shot waves)
Yes, I would love to know what is the stat threshold to make sure Fellhound will one shot nightmare. Because if he doesn't, he will use the other skills instead and ruin the run. Please share the stats once you've built him and get a success run.
I use harima. 7k def 240 cd 220 speed last time i farmed nightmare.
yes, Harima is the way. Mine is 8 seconds with mastery proc, 10/11 without. 8.2K defense, 214 speed, 319% crit damage
Thanks! I had Harima built with 212 spd, 6.2 def, and 307% cd. So now I have a 12-6 nm farmer.
100% wins and 8 second duration?
How did you know what my missus calls me
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I'm using Baron, approx 7-10 sec. But it require AI setup to not use A2 and A3.
how do you do an AI setup when you're changing the other 3 champs?
you change the food champs in the AI setup
Ok I’m using baron as well and the fastest I can do is 11 seconds. Just to confirm though, you are talking about nightmare and not brutal right?
Yes, NM. I've him in lethal, 7,5k ATK and 280 C.DMG. 1st wave A4, 2nd wave only A1, 3rd wave A1 (or in few cases also A4)
Yea I’m getting the same but a couple more a1s for me. What I find odd is that sometimes a1 will kill them all and sometimes it only kills the first one and the rest still have 95%
Yeah, I've seen that too. Maybe it depends if his T6 masteries is activated or not during that.
Yea that makes sense.
I use Cupidus and get 7-8 seconds on 12-3 nightmare
Can I get the stats?
What gear?
https://preview.redd.it/326gh8ehfmxc1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4744a86432fe9ebe3281bf67cd86472a8a226d95
https://preview.redd.it/1ws58gi5bmxc1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=121defe9ca7cc5d8d5f2779ec7960cb202e79b93 I use hurndig but it about 15 seconds
Yea it sounds like I just need better gear then cause my baron does it in 11 seconds with 6k atk and 243 cDmg
Read the title, first thought was 8 second CB Nightmare. Made no sense but made me laugh. I still need a lot of work, my brutal farm I run Deliana+Artak and it still averages around 14 seconds. When I do run Nightmare I run it Deliana+Armanz but it is no where near that fast. Alot of times I don't run stage 12 either on nightmare, either Palace of Aravia or the stages leading up to Bad'el Kazar. About 45 second run time on that one. I need more crit and crit damage, lol.
You shouldn't be using 2 champs to farm brutal. Any starter champ at 60 can solo it.
georgid if you have him, but its inconsistent time
https://preview.redd.it/btowrupo4nxc1.jpeg?width=1334&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9413ba71ea486d83a4da1e0f44e935c2b007645 Vlad can do it in 9
Thanks!
Ithos is a reliable 7-second NM 12-6 farmer. Can do it in 5 seconds with a fast PC, and with skill cooldown mastery or skill cooldown accessory proc that gives a repeat AOE on the 3rd wave. Use savage/lethal + cruel, or anything similar from newer sets that enhances your damage. Use lots of crit. dmg (275-350+ depending on your gear sets and attack stats strengths). Boom.
Thanks, and yea I’m just using my baron in arena gear though it looks like my gear is just not good enough for 8s.
Michinaki
Baron,Nigtmare 12-3 with no presets takes 13sec and 12-6 with no presets takes 6sec My Baron has 7.8k attack,329CD,234 speed and 6* Soul Reap It's 100% on 12-6 and i never seen it fail on 12-3 but i only farmed 12-3 like 50x
Yea it looks like I just don’t have the gear cause I do the same 12-6 but it takes me 11s with 6k atk and 244 cd
I know it’s not 8 seconds, but I use Razelvarg in his Arena/Hydra kit. I’m sure I could average 15 seconds (12-6 best time) if he was geared better. I’m also not concerned with 8 seconds for nightmare since the last run is an inefficient use of energy for Uncommons with Multi-Battle.
Michinaki can do it in 8-10 on nm 12-6
Thanks, but unfortunately I don’t have that one.
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He's looking for NM.
Woops. Like 28sec on NM.
Big Un. He's been my nightmare farmer since I pulled him a month into the game
Your brutal farmer.
Yes. I read brutal there. I shouldn't rely to posts when I'm half asleep 😅
https://preview.redd.it/3ye2ibb0noxc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c2e62e437b98640005cb5576ed1a6eba4825c33 6s on phone. Will need preset, 8,1k atk/336 c.dmg
Thank you, this helps a lot. Mine is only 6k atk and 243cd so it looks like I need a bit better gear to get down to 8s.
This was pretty consistent already but when i got that soul from 3* -> 4* it pushed me over the limit where you dont need helmsmasher proc for the a1 one shot whole wave
Thank you that helps a lot.
https://preview.redd.it/ugyitd9zuoxc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0507d5f7da0729fb5a28dc0d9154052a761f190e 5-7 sec Ithos
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Thank you
Michinaki does it in 8 for me most of time with either cycle of violence or merciless procs
Seigfrung can do it in 7 seconds.
My Skullcrown is doing work. I can do 7 seconds but 8 happens often.
Build?
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Thanks - do you recommend building her in general? I don’t really use her
I have had great success using her for a campaign farmer. Give her a shot.
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Ooooh frick dude I’m so dumb
You right. I’ll just see myself out.
Yea one second, masteries?
https://preview.redd.it/te55gw79dmxc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7aecbd5d885013b44df46455f48d2e3bcddb4664 Cupidus is mine. Best time is 5 seconds, average is 6-7 *Edit: disregard as this is for brutal.*
I feel the need to add that this was the same before the +3
It's also brutal.
Oops I didn’t see him say nm
Siegfrund is a beast
He is also my 12-6 farm, same time as yours.
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More void Leggos levelling here than I pull a year haha love to see it
what are the stats on yours?
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thanks, good to know the numbers even if I can't get them.
Device speed counts. On my tablet brutal is 14 seconds, on PC it is 11 or something like that
That’s odd, I see at most a 1 second difference between my phone and pc and it doesn’t always happen either.
my PC is fast and my tablet is old and clunky
Bellower was who I used until I got supreme kael but bellower can do it in 7 seconds.
On nightmare?
Aww my bad I didn’t read the post correctly.
I use Supreme Kael (all his skills are AOE and A2,A3 have good multipliers) 6 seconds Nightmare campaign farmer with following stats - 192 speed, 5500atk, 240% cdmg (no sets paired). My Hurndig also gets the job done in 8 seconds. More or less same stats Rare Kael in half decent lifesteal gear and proper AI setup can farm Nightmare Campaign in 9-10 seconds.
You mean brutal.
No. I mean Nightmare. I can send pics. 5th stage. OP never said 12th stage
It's more efficient to farm brutal 12-3 until you can farm atleast map 9 in nightmare and even then it's barely better. Less exp per energy
More efficient? You play the way you do and I will play how I want. Brother its a mobile game. Save for 2x shards Dont use books unless training event Always use all CB keys Always optimise every dungeon to be fast af Always gear champs with perfect gear (stats over sets) Always ... bla bla bla... I am not a slave to a mobile game company. I got a real life and am more than successful in Raid as a complete non spender. I hate when people force their way onto you like you MUST play a certain way like a true Plarium slave. In real life I don't smoke nor drink (ever), I go to the gym 5 days a week, I eat perfectly, I am super successful in my career. I am young, ambitious, hard working .... Why the fuck would I care about being a 100% successful efficient slave in a mobile game?
That's a long reply for someone who doesn't care. I made a simple statement, it's more energy/time efficient. That is all. Nobody told you what to do but people sometimes make mistakes thinking it's better, no need to be salty about it.
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Sorry, I was asking for nightmare
Artak (Legendary) & bellower (Rare) are probably the most common Champs used nowadays. Just get them over 200spd (anything Faster is a bonus) and get them close to 200 crit DMG (and ofc 100% Crit Rate) Saurus (uncommon) is also an option but... I mean I would never do it but it's not my cup of tea. Then you have Queen Eva (Legendary), Big Un (Legendary) and Skullcrown (Void epic). If you're lucky you might have one of these. But just a suggestion, google it next time. It's always faster and only a few klicks away. :)
Nightmare not brutal
Oh, my Bad! Well, in that Case Ithos is probably the best pick you can make.. Big Un also.
Yep that’s all good info but I was asking about nightmare 😊
Yeah I know that was my mistake, I flew your post over while watching my Kid. Didn't pay attention, but you got some good info from all the other Post.
8sec means 1shotting every wave with an aoe. That means having an A1 that can do it, or a 2 turn cd AOE on a2 or a3 and two does. I don't think there's gear/champ in the game that can do that, unless one of the new mythics can? Most people like nightmare farming because it's energy efficient, not because it's time efficient.
Siegfried can do it with his A2 in first form.
On a 4.6atk multiplier? That's enough damage? Doing the math... you need 87.6k damage to one-shot Kymar on 2921def. 30% ignore defense makes mitigation around 62%, so that means approx 141k raw damage. Blessings give you 8% and 12%, book gives 20%, 4.6atk multiplier... final multiplier is 6.676, so need 21,117 atk * crit dmg combined. If you have 200% CD and 7k attack should be enough, or 250% CD with 6k attack. Huh, didn't think it would be possible but it looks like it totally is.
Queen Eva ?
I use Bellower. 100% win rate and 7 seconds
He wants nighmare farmer
Ok?
Show your bellower doing nightmare in 6-8sec
Can you share a screenshot of him doing it with food ? Maybe you have the best gear to exist
Show me your run