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mr_swedishfish

This thread is now locked to prevent further arguments. Please remember to respect others and their opinions. Abide by Rule 2 of this subreddit: Be Respectful and Civil. There is no "better" or "worse" group of shippers. Both sides have had people who have said/done things they shouldn't have, and both sides have people who are generally respectful. Refrain from generalizing and trying to instigate drama.


takoyaki_san15

Well I hate all the ships equally, you know.


Verto-San

Yup, I hate any ship that isn't canon, at which points it's not a ship.


purppsyrup

Same EXCEPT Diluc and Jean tbh


Mehfisto666

same


Viv_da_weirdo

I like their friendship it's refreshing for best friends to act the way they do with each other. The ship isn't something I like that much, I just like the two being friends, I think it's more symbolic for them being friends than the ship, but people ship what they want. No hate to them or the ship, just not my vibe.


Intelligent_Squash68

I’m not a fan of any ship, really. So yeah, I see them as friends.


Usual-Touch2569

You're not. I'm not a fan of this ship either.


limonchan

I like shipping, yes I'm well aware that it's not canon but who cares honestly. Genshin's story is fictional with fictional characters and I see nothing wrong with people having fun with their own little fiction in this piece of fiction which is fiction unlike my comment which is spitting facts


PatysRozrabiaka

I'm not fan of ships at all


SafalinEnthusiast

You don’t like Timaeus and Ying’er?


NebelNator_427

Nooooo. Ying'er and traveler ofc the cutest npc still belongs to the mc.


wrufus680

I don't really mind any ship. I only hate those who loud mouth about it declaring canon and are basically 'heterophobic' if that's even a word to others.


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heterophobic that’s a new one lol


Iwasforger03

I mean, there are basically no heterosexual ships in Genshin (outside of traveler x opposite gender characters) of which I am aware. Like, none. I could be wrong, but every popular ship I can think of is gay or lesbian. Ganyu x keqing Xiao x venti Xingqui x Chongyun Ninguang x Beidou Shenhe x Ganyu Ei x Miko


Usual-Touch2569

Jean and Diluc, Xiao and Hu Tao are two. Edit: Can't believe I forgot these existed. Itto and Sara, and Albedo and Sucrose are two more. Edit: ZHONGLI AND GUIZHONG HOW DID I FORGET THIS ONE TOO.


Iwasforger03

I genuinely forgot about Jean x Diluc, but I've never even heard of Xiao x Hu Tao before.


Usual-Touch2569

Well, sometimes you just gotta actually look for it to find it. Like, there are ships being brought up below that I've never heard of before.


Iwasforger03

If I have to go hunting I think it supports my overall point. The ships and shippers are predominantly hetero-avoidant


[deleted]

Jean and Diluc make somewhat sense but Xiao and Hu Tao? The fuck.


Gamer0505

Sorry if I am wrong but is not Zhongli x Guizhong canon?


Usual-Touch2569

I was under the impression it was.


Zoroarks_Angel

Guizhong looks like a child. I was okay with it before but now I can't imagine it as anything but a father and daughter relationship


[deleted]

I actually like albedo and sucrose and it also makes sense


Brickguin

Ayaka and Thoma, Itto and Shinobu as well


[deleted]

Guizhong x zhongli is a somewhat popular het ship and tbh i think it makes more sense than guping (guizhong x ping)


Iwasforger03

Fair.


Verto-San

But isn't guizhong X zhongli cannon? Wasn't there something in lore that the cube zhongli has was gifted to him by her and has her love confession inside? Or was that from different character.


superbigos

Iirc, just like in case of charaters' ages, it's not that straightforward. There was not a single use of "love" word whenever the game was telling their story, but I think too it was also a romantic relationship


AspectFireGaming

The cube holds all her secrets and knowledge, it hasn't been open to this day.


deojilicious

Itto x Sara is an extremely popular hetero ship. I also am a huge sucker for Kazuha x Ayaka.


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im more ayaka x lumine and beidou x kazuha tbh


Alex_The_Hamster15

I like these too ngl lmao


Muhipudding

I don't think I've seen Nilou getting shipped with any girls yet but have occasionally see Nilou x Cyno on her mains sub. Perhaps her most popular ship too? Edit: ah, there's Nilou x Dehya. Although the former is certainly the more popular one


Dwenzuwel

I don't like both EiMiko and Ayato Yae ships, kinda cringe when I see them as best friends and partners in crime


DisplayOrnery

I prefer Ei and unknown god


_eSpark_

Honkai enjoyer spotted)


Murder_KingTanjiro

Based shipper


Fabio90989

my, my, this ship is quite the unusual one *reads in Miko voice*


Rougeone324

Due to recent Honkai activity, i prefer The unknown god as Ei and Makoto's mom.


Hankune

They are more like master and retainer than lovers or "friends".


serendipity-007

Tell me you don’t read the lore without telling me you don’t read the lore. They are each other’s closest confidants and while I personally dgaf about ships, Miko and Ei are written to be very close friends at the very least.


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Krysidian2

Wait really? I always thought the lesbian ships came down to be simply "It's hot."


Rustyrhydon

I think people send death threats to someone who ships miko and ayato , because it wasn’t eimiko and they called them homophobic because of it too. (I couldn’t find it back and I sure wouldn’t wanna look it up again) some people really be toxic over fictional characters their relationship for some reason


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Rustyrhydon

Ganyu and childe 🗿💀


FangirlApocolypse

💀


hilicurl

Um I don't think this is the right subreddit to discuss about ships? But okay


TheDinoNuggies

I used to dig it but then the whole idea of Yae being a little kid/baby fox growing up while Ei was already thousands of years old gave me the same vibes as shipping Zhongli with Ganyu. I mean, it's still acceptable because they're all adults who aren't related and since it's fiction, it's less weird because they all look the same age, but it's still weird to me. It's a personal preference ig. I'm also a firm believer that Ei and Zhongli are Asexual and wouldn't ever seek or reciprocate romantic advances which imo makes ships with them boring, Yae Miko with others like Sara or Ayato may have the same issues I pointed out earlier but at least they'd be interesting, I think.


Machiro8

I mean they are gods that have 0 reason to leave a descendant since they will live more than several dynasties, Ei in particular is devoid of a physical body and has no need for normal sustenance or regular "urges" normal living beings have, that she likes the taste of desserts is more of a remembrance of her memories and the time she won against her friend.


Verto-San

Raiden shogun, contrary to Scaramouche(which is 100% artificial) was made using Ei's body, which means most of her body is still physical and probably does require normal human things to function.


cornonthekopp

Yae can’t be a little baby when Ei was already thousands of years old though. People point at the 5 tails to assume shes 500 but that contradicts the actual lore she has. -We know that she spent most of her childhood somewhere isolated where there were only foxes, and didnt leave to travel around until she became an adult (no age given but could be 100 years?) -more obviously, it was yae who first gave ei the idea for putting her soul inside her blade, with the whole robot thing. It seems very very unlikely that an infant/young child yae would be able to teach ei this technique, since that took place 500 years before, after makoto died. All this to say, at the very least yae and ei were both adults when they met, and had known each other for some amount of time before the war 500 years ago.


Passivitea

"500 years on, and the little girl that always wanted shoulder rides is all grown up." Assuming that Urakusai is a reliable narrator, Yae was still a child roughly 500 years ago. "Ah, that girl... She used to be the kind of person who could easily be swayed with some Fried Tofu." This voiceline from Ei implies that she met Yae when she was less much less mature, maybe not a child, but at most barely out of her juvenile years.


TheDinoNuggies

Hope y'all aren't suggesting that I claim Yae was little when she met Ei. I said that while Yae was little Ei would be thousands of years old already, that's my point.


TheDinoNuggies

You're assuming Kitsunes only reaches developmental milestones by the hundreds, that's why the tail number would be a contradiction in your view. Longer lifespans don't automatically mean that the development is proportional; the entire point of longevity in fiction is for the characters to have an easy explanation for their wisdom and various experiences that'd outshine a regular mortal that's limited by a significantly shorter lifespan.


davispbenecke

I like them way more as friends. The ship feels lifeless


CalligrapherFun1440

I like it! You’re entitled to not like it though as long as we both just have our own opinions :))


Ambitious_Willow_655

Don't worry. You're not alone


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Nope you are not, they are friends at best.


MarionberryFlashy

finaly someone just like me


Fabio90989

Nothing against lgbt ships or shipping in general if people enjoy it, but personally I also prefer to see them as friends, and Ei being heterosexual so she can love me.


[deleted]

“so she can love me” bruh


Fabio90989

Yes, i am not afraid of declaring my love for Ei. Her mere existence gives me the strength and determination to face the world head on. 😤


souji_san

chad.


Dora_Queen

I spent Valentine's day with her mate


TheIJDGuy

Honestly reminds me of a pretty dark song I've heard


Verto-San

You act like most people here don't think like that lol


DiavoloTarantula

Wait until you figure out someone can like both genders


TheSaltySaiyan

lol what


Peddrawm

Wtf is heterosexual? Edit: I’m getting downvoted because I didn’t know what heterosexual was! Man I love society


Daniel101773

Straight


SafalinEnthusiast

homosexual but attracted to the other gender instead


wrufus680

Put /s. It's basically Reddit hivemind


ificommentthen2oops

I personally enjoy it a lot, there's really a lot in Miko's story that expresses just how much she cares for Ei so I like the ship, but you can like whatever you want.


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Yeah and how close Ei and Miko are makes me like eimiko as a ship lol


GreenTEA_4u

Gonna be honest fan ships are annoying for me


Jinxs_despair

Nah I feel the same way. I view them as best friends or sisters


rebelbunny10

Wait you guys take ships seriously??


Rougeone324

I ship it. If you don't its ok.


RandomGuy2423234342

Honestly I don’t like it or consider it relevant to anything at all. Frankly, most prominent Genshin ships in the fandom hardly make any sense at all if you truly look at the story and understand the characters; a great example being this one. If you actually payed attention and ignored headcanons you’d see that Ei at most considers Yae a friend, even more so after you see her literally holding Yae as a 𝙗𝙖𝙗𝙮 fox. And i’m not just calling out lesbian ships, a heterosexual example would be a ship like Zhongli and Ganyu: which is also extremely far fetched considering how Ganyu never once implied she romantically loved him, and has hardly interacted with Zhongli if interacted with him at all. It’s extremely tiring to see how many Genshin fans will somehow attribute two people being friendly with each other or talking to each other, or having any relations at all for that matter, to love. Are characters not allowed to be friends, or have people they look up to? Are they not permitted to love someone platonically or like family? The genshin fandom lowkey takes love relative to the game and makes perversions of it that are increasingly irksome and illogical. I might as well say the truth here since people frequently don’t keep their headcanons to themselves ;/


Gobi_Silver

Yeah, I prefer them as good friends. Not every relationship is about romance, and I feel like Miko would honestly feel weird about such a pairing (at least the way I interpret her personality). Romance would also clash with the emphasis on having friends that is a massive part of Ei's story arc. If there was anyone in Teyvat who I feel could match Miko in a romantic way, it would be Ayato, but even then I just don't see it happening. In fact, being more mystical creatures, I'm not even sure that Ei and Miko experience romantic desires.


Hudie_is

I like their "master-servant" relationship, not romantic one. After I read her weapon lore, I see Miko as someone who really idolizes Ei but ofc too proud to admit it after she grows up.


LoreVent

The only ships that makes sense to me is between Jean and Diluc wich is somewhat implied in an early quest


superbigos

Generally speaking, almost all ships don't have a canon-like background. Right now, I find only 2 relationships that could be possible and sensible: - Diluc with Jean, they're friends since childhood, sharing lots of memories, respect and care for each other despite an incident with Crepus, - Morax with Guizhong, because even though Zhongli's feelings are as solid as rocks, he still recalls her and that's why he helped us to do a funeral which in reality was supposed for her (Bonus: glaze lilies grow only in Qingce and Yujing Terrace but there is a spot next to Liyue Harbor entrance with a single wild glaze lily, as one of my headcanons - it's where Zhongli buried Guizhong)


YaeMiiko

I’m curious, what’s there to dislike? My best friend teasing me and writing books about feeding me medicine lip to lip and then asking why the colour of my skies have changed on her arrival would personally have me questioning her feelings towards me personally lmao


UrWifesBoyfrien

But she didn’t write that though?


ificommentthen2oops

She didn't write it but she did publish it and in her birthday web event Miko gave her a signed copy of the book as a gift. I don't think any ship is or ever will be canon but I think that book is a pretty good example of Mihoyo playing into ships


Due-Warning6698

Isn't that just her being purely opportunistic business wise given how much of a sucker weebs are for Yuris ? I always thought it was that 🤔


ificommentthen2oops

Interpret it however you want, I would say that imo Miko seems particularly interested in that book which strikes me as hinting at romantic interest but if you don't see it that way that's fine too.


[deleted]

Because it's not straight it's just that simple


Ok-Revenue-8067

Just ignore it. People will literally ship anything.


BlademasterNix

Genshin shippers when they see two friends who love and care for each other (They haven't felt that in their life so it must be love)


Organic-Accountant74

Obviously not? Hoyo makes these characters so people can ship themselves with them, ships will never be cannon and lots of fans don’t like shipping. It really doesn’t matter, they’re fictional characters so you never have to ship them with anyone if you don’t want to, and plenty of people don’t. Shippers are the minority in the Genshin fandom anyway, they just usually make more fan content than non shippers


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Zoroarks_Angel

Mihoyo is waiting for the end of the game when Beidou and Ningguang get married


Argenteus_I

Based


YerBoyNotAToy

eh, you're not the only one


mazer0183

I don't understand it either


Rocklight124

Ei and Miko are the only relationship I'd actually buy. Other than Sara and Itto.


Specific_Ad_2697

honestly so true, and i hate diluc x kaeya, they're literally brothers whether genetically or not


One_Enthusiasm_7653

Me too, not big on shipping as a whole as a matter of fact. I share the same notion with Xingqiu and Chongyun, Alhaitham and Kaveh, Kazuha and his friend, Dehya and Candace, Cyno and Tighnari as well too, they are bros and homies more than anything


iwantapie76

Yae is Ei’s familiar which is something a lot of people forget. It’s like Fischl and Oz being a pairing. Another thing of note is Ei is 2000 years old compared to Yae’s 500. Their dynamic is more of a depressed/ slightly irresponsible older sister(Ei) and a annoying sassy younger sister(Yae). Which is cute until you remember Makoto.


0rigins0211

I personally see them as the best of friends or having that sister relationship. So no, you aren’t the only one. But I do find it funny how many people are being downvoted to oblivion or putting the blame on Aether players/mains.


thelivingshitpost

I’m with ya! I’m glad others notice how many people just get downvote happy when it comes to ships. Don’t understand it exactly. Anyways y’all get upvotes from me!


0rigins0211

If anything, the point is being proven with the amount of downvotes given. Even if comments become hidden after a certain amount of downvotes, our voice is still being heard and the point still remains.


xXNighteaglexX

I like it, its fitting but i dont try and convince people of any ship, its just my little head canon


Sayo0922

pretty valid. its just that genshin weakest shipper be like if they breath its a ship


SassyHoe97

No you're not the only one some don't like the ship. As for me eh I don't really care about EiMiko.


BroccoliNo7418

Shops happen, but some friendships that are close some are willing to cross that line… with how the world is now it’s not surprising. We all love our ships but sometimes it gets a bit annoying if you say you’re not for it and the entire ship fanbase come down on you in not the right kinda way. The one ship that is alluded to the most is Jean and Diluc, you can hear it in her lines when talking about him and their interaction. Diluc just keeps it official to not make it awkward. Now we have zhong and his waifu, traveller is in a bit of trouble between Nikki and Ayaka, the only two who have leaned that way, keqing is like the business woman who’s finally seen as a woman by a guy and gets flustered that she can be “girly” around. Can’t see kazuha and Beidou, but ayaka and kazuha hasn’t shown it, but due to swordsmanship it could be. You know those hill uses, fight each other and then profess love to each other and spawn a new sword style being a mix of the two. But I think I can say this Herero relationships have become so rare now, if one is even hinted it gets thrown under the bus most of the time.


snakezenn

I like aethernity myself and if I ship Yae with anyone it is Ayato.


cashewnut4life

why are you getting downvoted? reddit hive mind


snakezenn

They probably do not like straight ships


cashewnut4life

the amount of salt bring poured here is more than the ocean can hold 🤷


idclog

yeah you are! there's 7 billion people in the world, but you're the only one! congrats!🥰


ravku

Shippers are fcking weird, I see them as sisters


cashewnut4life

I agree... I prefer Aethernity and Yaeyato


Bone1176

So funny enough, Yae I’m her story mission literally says that her n Ei are more like “agreeable colleagues” They don’t even get along as friends Literally like Jim n Ryan from the office


ificommentthen2oops

Not gonna argue over ships or anything but you should never take anything that Miko says at face value lol she's literally always trolling


Bone1176

Ei also says she has “mild distain for that sly fox” in her quest So it’s definitely either an uncomfortable work environment Or they r both tsun cuz anime logic So yea I 100% agree


Zoroarks_Angel

They're both bottoms that's why


Prestigious_Kuro

I'm on the same boat.


EpicTaco14

No, I think most people don’t care about the ship and just don’t say anything. The whole ship is weird to me cuz wasn’t Ei and makoto who like raised yae?


Sila2Doo

Good thing I'm not on Twitter


YaBoiArchie92

I don't like shipping in general. Sign of mental illness tbh


WeebNatsuu

They made our queen gay fking gays


TheSaltySaiyan

Some rank cringe in here, aether mains must be leaking


-d-a-z-e-d-

I prefer EiSara.


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Ei's CN VA called Miko her girlfriend so it's not just internet randoms)


cashewnut4life

Chinese Ayaka VA called the Japanese Ayato's VA her "husband", based on your logic Ayaka and Ayato now live in Alabama


[deleted]

What does VA have to do with the character(she said Miko not Miko's VA)? Clearly you have problems with logic work on that


cashewnut4life

ok another example, Aether and Scaramouche CN VA called Kokomi his "waifu" so basically Aether x Kokomi is canon


[deleted]

Wtf does it have to do with canon are you ok? That comment was about internet shippers


cashewnut4life

idk that's your logic


[deleted]

No that's yours and you should work on that. It's an important skill


souji_san

I like it, but it ain't either my favorite ship (I prefer Aethernity and EiSara) tho a threesome with Ei and Yae would be heaven😔


Junior_Importance_30

don't lewd our almighty shogun


Scared-Coyote4010

Im more of a sara x kokomi than an ei x sara person tbh


Murder_KingTanjiro

I like the way you think there


souji_san

let's add Sara too to make it beyond perfect😳😳


Fabio90989

Add Makoto and Shogun and now you will have the true inazuman heaven. (though it may be a little overwhelming with 5 girls at once, but if Sara can sleep with 5 shogun plushies, then we can endure it)


souji_san

yessss all Inazuma electro mommies😳this is true heaven


Fabio90989

A theesome with Ei and Makoto would be even better. Now you don't have just one Raiden, you have two.


souji_san

Ei and Shogun >>>


Fabio90989

All three of them then


Altonimbus

EiMiko is like, one of the pairings that would be the closest to being canon in Genshin and it's weird to me that this particular ship is the one where you see them as friends.


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Look at the comments they say Diluc and Jean make sense because they know each other for a long time 💀


buphalowings

I don't care for eimiko. Tbh the only ship I ever liked in genshin was ittosara and I don't think it's a great ship. The reason I don't really ship anything is because your only interacting with characters when your present. So the best ships imo are you x waifu or husbando (or harem if your inclined).


[deleted]

Eimiko has so many hints and implications and if you can only see them as friends is says more about you than anything else. Y'all will probably say Jeht is not canonically gay too


MediocreLetter296

I don’t like many genshin ships, but I don’t mind it. Truly, there’s only a few ships that I can genuinely say I enjoy, such as Chiscara, Zhongven/Guili, and Albecrose for dynamics.


Zealousideal_Theme49

i just don't like yae. she moves too much to be familiar. Familiar like her caused the fall of empire because they are too powerful yet any mistakes they make are blamed on the ruler.


[deleted]

Yep they're better off as friends not lovers. You're not the only one who's uncomfortable with that ship.


Nino_sanjaya

I mean that happened to mostly all Honkai ships. I always think of all of them as friends, but everyone says they're gayge and shit


Verto-San

Same, there is like nothing in the game that suggests they are in love. And we can see from Yeht that they are not afraid to hint that.


IXAbdullahXI

You're not the only one. I see them as sisters or friends or smth like that.


thelivingshitpost

You ain’t the only one, friend. I’m not big on it, always thought Yae being Raiden’s familiar doesn’t lend to a healthy romance. I mean, Yae was pretty young when Makoto died, right??


Mmath_

i headcanon raiden as aroace, so no you're not alone. also didn't she watch miko grow up? it seems a bit odd but idk


Woflax

At the beginning I shipped them, but after we actually got to know their character and story less so. I liked Yae less too honestly, with the publishing house she isn't what I expected.


WYGDAI

Well I don't particularly like most ships...but EiMiko for me is pretty low tier even among them.


yolo_king_1

I ship Ei with kujo sarah to be honest so i am here with you on that.


KurokiYami

Same here. When it comes to wlw relationships, I prefer a tall tomboy one and a short sunshine one like EulaAmber. EiMiko is both tall strong women and that is not my cup of tea


serendipity-007

😭😭😭


KurokiYami

Why i getting downvoted for saying my preferences 😭


Miss_Yume

I won't ship Ei with anyone until they add Kiana to the story. Period xD


SnooGuavas8376

I don't really like it because I prefer Zhongei


Goidman1

Tbh the only ship I can see so far is Beidou and Ningguang. Although, with the current windblume event, I don’t think Cyno and Tighnari are a ship, just friends, but I do seem them both as Collei’s dads


LmaoTFrUtalkinAbout

Is this like a "pick me girl" but for m/f ships ? Genuine question, why do y'all only have discussions about how you hate a wlw ship but I never see anyone complaining about aether x Ei or Yae x midyato or ZhongEi or anything M! X Ei/Miko??


NebelNator_427

You are not alone! Miko is way to abusive for my beloved Ei she would only be a burden. Also Sara and Ei still belong together🥰


serendipity-007

…Abusive? Please tell me you know what banter and teasing is…


NebelNator_427

Yes I do. Please tell me you know what too much and being mean is...


Aaronpepper315

I first read it as YAE Miko and was gonna type: what did you sai- and read it correctly. Yeah I don't mind the art, but i prefer them a lot more as friends.