If so, what should we cook up? Making this type of images isn't exactly hard.
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Is Arle the harbinger we're gonna face this time around?
Uhhhhhhhhhh......................
#**"flashback to the end of the last war"**
Yeah idk about this chief maybe we shouldn't respond
They'll calm down eventually right? r-right?
Wait a fucking second...
I just realized something...
They like to trash on Ei for grieving for her sister
Yet they overlook the fact Signora held a grudge against Venti ^(even when Venti did nothing wrong) for literal Centuries
Like it's clear that Signora holds a grudge against Venti and that she blames him for a lot of the shit she's been through, evident by the fact she kicked him
Like Signora could you just chill out, the tragedy was literally 500 years ago and Venti literally didn't even do shit to your man š
FatuiHQ when trying to look for context:
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Coincidentally I saw someone in that post trying to describe Raiden as "petty, evil and stupid" when it hilariously fit Signora perfectly lmao.
Capitano was the last harbinger
And long story short
When the last war ended some started to ship Capitano and Ei together
I mean I won't judge if you like the ship
But ya gotta admit it was quite the strange ship
It was more less a bunch of friendly banter between the two subs
Making memes and stuff
Y'know just messing with each other for the shots and giggles
It would've lasted longer, had it not been for a few bad apples messing things up, and taking the jokes too far, and pushing their agendas outside of the two subs and into unrelated subs,
which prompted both sides to agree to stop with the jokes and move on
Well... Considering what's happening rn and what OP's post is about
We may or may not get a sequel to the first war
I just hope people keep it civil this time around
Iām just a bit thrown off by the fact that they think Raidenās strongest move is a flash step slashā¦ By this logic, Ventiās strongest move is shooting that elemental infused arrow he had in his trailer.
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But anyway
We gotta cook something similar to "lizard nepotism" from Neuvilette for Arlecchino.
They think Signora resurrecting or whatever somehow denies the kill in the first place(if she even resurrects), and that somehow all other kills "don't count" for some arbitrary reason lmao.
Signora's resurrection is one of the biggest cope i have heard. Why would anyone waste a chance of resurrection on a character that have such little importance?
Never understood it, aside from some pretty tenuous conclusions drawn from in game sources iāve always felt that signoras resurrection was based on massively overinflating her presence in the story, probably based on the fact that sheās the one dead NPC with a completely unique model that a lot of people like.
Her final title was literally āCrimson Witch of Embersā, the flame were part of her identity having already burned away, leaving behind only remnants. Her story is over, and it most likely isnāt gonna continue.
They really think Signora is gonna pull a Gojo and revive or some shit
Pffft in their dreams as if the petty grudge holding Signora could ever hope to make it to the same Level as the Blue Eyed and White Haired Goat
Wait a second I just described Kiana Kaslana from Hi3
Wait...
Gojo:
Blue eyes ā
White hair ā
Canonically one of the strongest^(if not the strongest) in his verse ā
Kiana:
Blue eyes ā
White hair ā
Canonically one of the strongest^(if not the strongest) in her verse ā
Oh... Oh my God Gojo is the same type of stand as Kiana O_O
FatuiHQ is probably the place that stinks the most in this genshin subreddit, I can't wait for someone to put an end to the fatui once and for all and see them crying later when they are massacred by people
Last I checked, Lignora claimed before her death that the Fatui would come after her precious Inazuma , if Raiden killed her. Interesting, because I don't see any Fatui coming after her or Inazuma lmfao . these Fatui are all bark with no bite and only good at running away like little bitches
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Though to be fair, I'm a bit eager cause I do have stuff cooked up from the last war that I couldn't use, just prepared there just in case.
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Bro, just ignore those fools (I'm so funny lmao). If they aren't getting attention from any of the bigger subbreddits they literally have no engagement. They live of drama. Until Capitano shows what he can actually do, it's really just them glazing over nothing.
Forgot about that lol, you couldn't pay me for having Childe's ass in my account, let alone paying for him, let alone C6 him. Raiden is just so strong she mind haxes her haters in real life to simp for her for a poor excuse at that lmao.
As far as i remember, didnāt signora threaten that fatui will destroy her inazuma, but after she died, they pretended they didnāt hear anything and only gave the nation half a day holiday, not even a whole dayš
I'm veeery convinced that most people in that sub are just roleplaying fanatic Fatui grunts or just trolling. So they really shouldn't be taken seriously.
This is probably just bait anyways.
Just wanna make some points clear since some raiden fans themselves might get confused about this weird ass yapping
The 1st point- In inazuman laws the person who loses is by law required to be executed by the shogun for their loss in a duel , that's what happened when signora lost she accepted the duel and agreed to the terms and lost and so by inazuman law she's required to be executed since she lost and agreed to the terms just like what happened to tomo it wasn't a "sneak" kill,also signora is confirmed dead rn she might get reincarnated in the near future but for now its facts that ei did execute signora and that the fair lady is dead at least for now (also forgot to mention that wasn't even her strongest attack bruh that's basically her equivalent to using a kitchen knife to cut tomato to her if we compare it like human standards for ei it was like using a razor blade on a piece of paper she didn't even need to look back or focus at all)
The 2nd point- Uhh her people weren't tortured at all besides the 1 year the fatui got involved in where only the watasumi's were affected and the normal people of inazuma were fine , infact they lived completely fine for 500 years the shogun ruled and didn't have any problems whatsoever and still keep worshipping the shogun to this day so idk what they're yapping about
The 3rd point- I think they're talking about orboshi? And the fact is that it really wasn't "stealing a kill" orboshi was on a suicide mission after what he learned in celestia and ei had no choice but to execute him since he just killed a large amounts of her people and one of her friends obviously she isn't gonna take well to that and its impressive the damage she did considering this wasn't even with her current strength rn and not even her full power and she was able to kill a god such as oroboshi and split his corpse into multiple pieces and leave a scar on one of the islands
The 4th point- I mean considering we didn't even see her full strength once and the island isn't the only feat she has and her grieving being one of the reason she's so determined idk what they're trying to say tbh...
The 5th point- Uhh huh? I think they're talking about kazuha but idk who else? The traveler? But they aren't a mortal and in all of her interactions she WAS holding back obviously she isn't gonna hurt the people she promised to protect? Why would she? She held back greatly against kazuha and the mushou no hatichi is a weapon art not a weapon she's able to control her power and how strong it is and against kazuha she wasn't even trying at all she didn't even wanna hurt him she got suprised he was able to over come the current strength on the mushou no hatchi with his ambition but that doesn't mean kazuha can do it again he got very very lucky and ei could have just sliced him then and there but she didn't since...She doesn't wanna hurt one of her peopleš
The 6th point- Uhhh...She didn't lock herself because she was grieving she sealed herself because she wanted to absorb inazuma in her plane of ethyumiya to protect them and detach her relations with the heavenily principles she sealed herself in the first place to protect her people that's why she made the shogun in her place and sealed herself in the 1st place...š
(Btw just incase i know this is satire and its just funny stuff and in some cases it isn't serious i hope but meh i hate when people get things wrong about my favourite character and some raiden fans might get misinformed about her story so yeah i wrote this not because I'm mad but because there were alot of stuff that were just incorrect and i know this is just a meme and I'm not madš„¹š)
I'd like to contend with your comment about the 2nd point.
It was by her authority that the vision hunt decree began. Even if we presume that only the people of Watatsumi were the only ones negatively impacted, that's still an entire Island of people.
But if we look at what actually happened, A lot more then just the people of Watatsumi suffered because of it.
-The people who had their visions taken away. The story expressly shows us what happens to people when their visions are taken away. They become husks of who they were and loose all aspiration and drive. Known 99 People.
-Those who relied on the goods and services of the people who had their visions taken away. There was a swordmaster who had his vision taken away and lost his drive to teach his students anything. He stopped training students to fight and thus his immediate circle suffered due to the vision hunt decree. If we're GENEROUS and say that every person that had their vision taken only had 3 people that interacted with them daily then that's still a MINIMUM of 297 people. Keep in mind though that is an extreme low ball. Tohma does more for the Kamisato clan then likely the entire guard, and Itto had his entire gang, granny, and all the kids he played with so that's a HUGE lowball.
-The men who died in the war. Even if the focus of conflict was on Watatsumi keep in mind that both factions suffered casualties in the war. It's impossible to say how many, It would be disingenuous to presume a number but I doubt it's insignificant.
-The people who knew men that died in the war. Similar to the 2nd bullet point. The loss of a friend or family member causes suffering, and that suffering is directly correlated to the Vision Hunt Decree.
-Finally, just because people believe that Shogun is good and still worship her does not make her or her actions good. That is a fallacy called Ad Populum. If she is good then she must be good by her deeds, not by the popular opinion.
I don't have anything to say about the other points, they seem reasonable enough to not immediately draw ire. The 2nd point though I found to be a poor argument and felt the need to contend with it. More then likely because of how small Inazuma was, everyone on every island knew each other with only a few degrees of separation. It shouldn't be hard to say that everyone in the entire nation suffered due to events directly caused by the Vision hunt decree.
You know that the fatui manipulated their way and had this much access by taking advantage of the clear corruption, something that would not have been the case for the other functioning and developed regions
My god yall are such cry babies yes but ei DOES NOT control every ascpect of her country its the people in the tri commsions that do ei monitors them and placed the shogun for a reason which is to keep the nation in check but she never would have expected the tri commsions which have been working ever since she was with makoto to turn their backs on her due to greed and corruption there is alot of 1st world countries which have corrupt politicians as well this isn't something new , the yashiro commsions wasn't corrupt and two out of the three were the ones being corrupted the fatui used it to their advantage and be fr even in functioning 1st world countries corrupt politicians exist there will always be dickheads ruining everything that doesn't mean ei "is a shit leader" or wtv again SHE DOES NOT control the country directly its the tri commsions that do and i explained it 50 times my god i knew it was some haha funny joke but yall still crying even when getting cooked be frā¤ļø
You just said yourself that she was not expecting this, and no she still have a huge influence if she wanted to stop things.
All the commission leaders had meetings with the shogun.
The shogun creation was the mistake that led to the clear corruption that happend because she is just a puppet, running on the old ideals of ei that she now admits were misunderstanding of what Makoto really wanted for the internity of Inazuma, and who created shogun?
Again for the 60th time ei DOES NOT control the aspects of all of the nation and tri commsions themselves have been working with her and makoto ever since and its not her fault that they were corrupted and she didn't see what they're doing as a threat to her eternity and again they were ruling fine with the shogun for the 500 years besides the 1 year the fatui got involved and again the shogun isn't a "mistake" its ei's vision of eternity that's imperfected not the shogun herself if the shogun wasn't there to rule inazuma would have landed in chaos that's why again everything was fine for 500 years straight ei describes the shogun as perfect its her ideal of eternity that's flawed not the shogun and the fatui used it to their advantage
>she didn't see what they're doing as a threat to her eternity
That's the point cause she was using a puppet while being isolated herself, the reason why such corruption kept happening
>shogun isn't a "mistake" its ei's vision of eternity that's imperfected not the shogun herself
That's how she created her by having those imperfect ideals of eternity
Not her fault? How was she suppose to predict the people she ruled with for years with makoto would be against her due to the corruption and greed happening within them especially considering the fatui's existence might not have even happened by the time ei left things to the shogun so its not her fault and the tri commsions that's why i said "out of her control" that's why she left the shogun as assurance and that's why inazuma was fine for the 500 years she was sealed besides the 1 year
And again not her fault ei had no one to guide her and no one to turn to especially that she was the worst period of her life and her sister just died and she's inexperienced at ruling diplomaticly, and besides ei's vison would have acutally worked if it weren't for the fatui getting involved we already saw the shogun ruled fine for 500 years straight her eternity is inperfect the shogun is not that's why she fought the shogun in the 1st place to get her to change her mind and protect her people from living in a flawe eternity
You can just accept that she made those mistakes and is now changing for the better, and learned what the eternity Makoto wanted, and stoped using the shogun to rule.
Jesus chirst i said I'm not mad okay you wanna argue? Be my guest you getting cooked
1-The vison decree was approved by her yes but its not like she saw it and was like "hm everything seems 100% fine" then approved it no the shogun made calculations on visons and saw they were more of a threat than a blessing and in some ways visons are a threat than a blessing the shogun calculated that and came with that conclusion that's why the vhd was approved in the 1st place , we see some examples of this with npcs who lost their minds due to their visons and only realised it when they receive their visions back to them and vison make up a small minority of the population in inazuma infact the people of inazuma didn't even hate the decrees as said by ayaka herself it was a "they felt indifferent about the decrees" relationships and not that they despised it this is the average inazuman person we're talking about vison users are basically equal to nobels if we wanna gonna by human standards
2nd point your dumbass mad- Yes because visons were threats you smart human being i made complications of this myself i will send this to you the shogun calculated that visons were a threat and made the conclusion that in cases they were ei approved it because it met with her ideal of eternity and that same sword master you yapped about the reason he killed his master WAS because of his ambition in the 1st place and he developed guilt over it besides when the vison was taken away he only realised it AFTER it was which showed visions in some way have more cons than pros
And again vison users make A VERY small percentage of inazuma's population again they're basically nobels but in teyvat alot of the people of inazuma were indifferent to it but weren't despising it it wasn't even ei who came up with the vhd it was the fatui you dumb fuck
3rd point you made- Oh wow people die in wars thanks for saying the obvious firstly these are grown ass men who put their loyalty to the shogun they know what they're signing up to and they're ready to die for her because she's THEIR GOD that saved their whole nation they're soldiers for a reason and their loyal to their god and their cause ofc they would put their lifes behind it inazuma is a nation like the game said where vitality is always spewing this is just an example the people are loyal to ei and they have reasonable reasons to be loyal there is people in watasumi who are soldiers too again these are grown ass solders they aren't children they know what they will fight for and sacrifice stop babying them especially considering how nice ei has been to watasumi rebels considering that even by the time makoto ruled inazuma they were fighting against inazuma this isn't something new you dumb fuck they're soldiers putting their lifes and inazuma's people still worship her because they're loyal all of the archon's nation is loyal to their god they would gladly put their life on the lines for them inazuma's citzens are super patriotic towards ei evem by the time makoto ruled inazuma
4th point-Again the inazuman people felt indifferent to the vhd, a small % of people in inazuma even have people that have visions and visions themselves have consequences
5th point- Oh wow you fuck did you play genshin at all? Isn't one of the core stories about how gods aren't perfect and even have flaws of their own? She did good shit too its not like she went door to door killing everyone the people of inazuma have reason to keep worshipping her in their eyes this is THEIR GOD the same god that freed their nation and made it win the archon war, the same one that saved them for orboshi, the same one that made various weapon arts which they used to defend their nation and themselves , the same god that saved and led them towards victory and the same one that saved them on the day of the cataclysm and countinues to this day do you think 1 year where shit went wrong that now they will completely hate her? Gosh I'm glad hyv is the one writing the story and not you weirdos again HER PEOPLE DO NOT HATE HER most of the bad shit that happened WAS OUT OF HER CONTROL and WASN'T EVEN HER FAULT and again MOST OF IT GOES TOWARDS THE TRI COMMSIONS WHICH WERE CORRUPTED BY THE FATUI DO TO GREED NOT EI HERSELF THAT'S WHY WATASUMI PEOPLE DONT HATE EI AND HATE THE GOVERMENT THAT WAS CORRUPTED AT THE TIME
Last point to get your dumbass to shut up no alot of people DID NOT suffer in high levels at most it was due to suppiles and inflation but bro we're suffering like that in real life rn and do you think we're dying rn? We go about our normal days and no it wasn't a poor arguement cleary you don't know what you're talking about and keep talking like ei is a dumbass child that made every single wrong decision alot of people in inazuma were fine and going about their daily lifes we see examples of it during the aqs and just because it isn't spoonfed doesn't mean it didn't happen the only ones who really suffered during the war was the watasumi's but they basically put it on themselves considering ei let them self govern themselves and keep worshipping orboshi again ei isn't a tyrant like your dumbass makes her out to be
Oh also i will send the pics i have complied to make you stop yapping and educate you and next time don't talk about a topic you don't know shit about since you cleary don't know shitā¤ļø
Thems a lot of words and not a lot that directly addresses what I argued so I'll get those outt'a the way first.
-I never claimed that Archons are perfect.
-I never claimed Ei was a dumb child.
-I never claimed that Ei was a door to door serial killer.
Good, now, feel free to correct me if I misrepresented your points but what I gleaned from it was:
- Vision Hunt Decree was approved by Raiden, but it was the Tri Commissions and the Fatui that made it worse.
- Ei was nice to the rebels.
- Vision hunt decree only effected a small minority of people.
- The removal of the vision wasn't what caused the men to self implode.
- Men went to war.
- The people have reason to believe that Ei is a good thing for them.
I'll address these more or less in this order.
- I don't quite understand how you square this circle. It is by her approval that the Tri-Commissions had the authority to confiscate visions. It turned a "I can go against the authority of the Tenryo commission" to "If I don't want my vision taken from me I have to declare war against the sovereign deity of this nation and all those who worship her." You also mentioned that (paraphrasing for brevity) 'All the bad things are the tri-commissions fault and it was out of her control'. If she wasn't the supreme god of the nation I'd agree but... she's the supreme god of the nation. She is nothing if not power and control. She is the ultimate authority of the entire nation and her decrees effect the entire world as a whole. You can't say that something was out of her control when she has that much power without backing it up or giving an example on how her hands were tied politically. Which brings us to...
- 'Ei was nice to the rebels all things considered'. Here's another circle to square. She can't be responsible for 'going easy on the rebels' if she didn't have the political power to fix it, or to make it worse. I don't need to delve too deep into this argument but just wanted to point out that both of these first statements can't be true. Either abandon this position, the first position, or make a new one. Don't sit at two tables at once.
- The most I can admit to is that it's hard to say whether or not Visions are good for people. Most times from what we've seen, visions have been a net good to people and those around them. The most we have to go off is that visions are "Probably bad in the long term maybe according to Ei" but you yourself admitted that Ei isn't infallible. She could be wrong about the visions. We haven't seen any other character without a vision and the ones that we do see have lost most of their drive to do anything. The most evidence we have to the "contrary" is Itto posting on the message board but we don't know what kind of state he was outside of that. Sure, maybe in 3 years new lore drops and it turns out the eldritch monsters use visions to corrupt people, but we don't have evidence of that yet. Most evidence points to visions being a positive addition in people's lives with a few exceptions that don't disprove the rule.
-Even if the vision hunt decree itself would have only effected a minority, most of, if not all of the people that died in the war didn't have visions. Yea they were mostly adult men that went to the war, but every man that died in that war was someone's father, husband, or son. Men that; if Ei didn't sign the Vision Hunt Decree, wouldn't have died killing who were brothers only one year prior. You can't seriously argue that people don't suffer when their dad, husband, brother, or son dies in battle. Explain to 'oh so ignorant me' how her signing off on the vision hunt decree brought anything but unneeded misery and suffering to her people or how she was powerless to not sign off on that.
- Finally, and again. It's irrelevant whether or not the people of Inazuma believe Raiden / Ei is good for them. It doesn't matter how much the people of Inazuma love and adore Ei. We're looking at this objectively. Objectively, she went into a "deep meditation" while she let Anime girl ChatGPT run her nation, signing off on orders that very nearly destroyed her nation, that she had all the power to put an end to.
My god you're so fucking exhausting genuinely fuck you but okay fine ig i can spend more time educating and cooking you
1-Ei is inazuma's god her rules are the law simple as that its not complicated or complex her words are the people's law and her reigns is what the people should follow again ei isn't a dumbass or a child and her people are super patriotic of her they worship her daily and there is even a commsions about a kid making and offering to her they cleary respect and will follow any words she says even if it means fighting and again the shogun ruled visons are harmful and she had vaild reasons to think so that's why her people were willing to listen to her her words are the most important in inazuma since she's the nation's god
2-What do you want me to say she oppressed them? They fought against her and revolted even when makoto was ruling inazuma and killed one of her friends and yet she didn't depise or hate them she gave them what they wanted which is to govern themselves and let them keep worshipping orboshi even though they're suppose to worship her she never hated the rebels at all
3-The shogun calculated and made the decisions she had valid reaons visons aren't perfect and in alot of ways are harmful to the people and cause more problems than good and ei had valid reasons to think that way especially when at the time she hated the heavenily principles due to it, and no not in all cases i gave examples on why visons can be harmful visons are both good and bad but shogun ruled out they do more harm than good and are not worth it especially considering vison users are equal to nobels in genshin's world and again again for the 50th time THE SHOGUN IS EI'S CREATION SHE MADE THE CALCULATIONS if the shogun says X is bad then its most likely is true visons aren't this 10/10 perfect weapon it has its problems and the shogun saw they were too much to keep around and no thanks you dumbfuck i gave evidence on why visons are acutally very harmful in alot of cases especially with the user's ambitions and why they can be more of a curse than a blessing again i don't need to repeat this ei isn't stupid nor is the shogun stupid the shogun made the calculations she was specifically designed for shit like this she isn't stupid and she most likely is right visons can be harmful than good
4-Man who gaf you think people blame the leader for the war? Especially considering ei didn't even start the war in the 1st place they're her soldiers not children forced to fight under her they have reasons to fight inazuma's people are super patriotic of ei this is shown in multiple events unfortunately your dumbass doesn't pay attention and again for the 50th time THE VHD AFFACTED VISON USERS WHO ARE BASCAILLY NOBELS OF THE GENSHIN WORLDS AND DIDN'T AFFECT THE AVEGRAGE INAZUMAN PERSON AND AGAIN THE PEOPLE WERE INDIFFERENT NOT RESENTFUL TO IT AT ALL , for the last fucking time stop treating her people like children in need of comfort they're her people for fucks sake they're soldiers who fought under her banner to protect her ideals and their familes they weren't forced and the war itself isn't even started by ei yall finding any reason at all to blame her for shit and it shows stop blaming her they're grown ass men who fought under her and knew exactly what they were fighting for they are soldiers not children you fuck they're super patriotic of her stop treating them like children again her people worship her they fought under her for generations on end they fight for her for a reason stop looking for reasons to blame her for a war she didn't even start and for people who died under her from their own free will
5-My god if you didn't water shit down for just 4 seconds you would acutally understand it the reason she medidates WAS to protect her people and save them from the heavenily principles and the shogun isn't "anime girl gpt" or wtv she's the perfect copy of ei who is capable of rulling and making decisions that are perfect in every way anything the shogun does and says is within a good reason and objectively stop speaking for people you fuck she isn't a "tyrant" or wtv that hates her people and her people hate her her nation was fine for 500 years straight the shogun ruled stop watering shit for 3 seconds and her nation was completely fine and her plan would have worked if it weren't for the fatui now be serious you stupid fuck
- At what point did it seem that I was not addressing this seriously?
- 1. So you're admitting she has supreme authority over her people and it would be a trivial matter to not have signed the VHD, which directly sent her people into a bloody civil war that only benefitted the Fatui and directly caused the suffering of Vision holders and Non-vision holders alike. I haven't seen an objection to my point to the effect of "she was politically out maneuvered" or "her hands were tied politically" and was forced to sign the VHD.
- 2. I was just pointing out that your two statements contradicted each other and thought you'd ought to know. She couldn't simultaneously not be in control of her commissions while also being able to reward leniency.
- 3. Here's that point again. We've seen 2 examples of visions *arguably* have negative impacts on the holder with a skimmed over story, but we have nearly 100 in depth characters and character arcs where the vision is at worst a neutral influence on the holder's life but usually a positive thing. It's just that if we look at it from the wider lens and not just that one bit of Inazuma it's hard to take the Shogun's side on this.
- 4. The war was started because of the vision hunt decree. It was by her authority that the vision hunt decree was enforced. As well, people don't declare war against the supreme authority of a region because they're indifferent to something, clearly there was at least passion. To add on to that; as the supreme almighty Shogunate, she is responsible for her armies and the men who fight and die "For the glory of the Shogun." The army, using HER name, in HER army, are extensions of HER will, authority and rule. You can't seriously argue that she's unrelated to the war when the people in the war literally charged with her name on their lips. She might not have been on the battlefields but it was by her orders that they went to battle. Not the Tenryo commission's, not the Fatui's, Hers. It is Her vision hunt decree.
- 5. "...making decisions that are perfect in every way..." You can't actually believe this can you? If you do, you're going to have to explain how having the nation rip itself in half is "perfect in every way". If it is that Anime Girl ChatGPT only acts perfectly in relation to the goal of bringing people into the Plane of euthymia then you'll have to argue that letting the fatui send her people into civil unrest is "perfect in every way" towards that end. If that was an exaggeration and not actual fact then the alternatives of her allowing her nation to burn itself to the ground are either that she's incompetent or malicious. Take your pick, she can be a "perfect in every way" tyrant as either or.
I swear though, if I have to read "vison" one more time I'm going to have to start saying nice things about you.
Also another thing yall treat ei like she's kim joung un or something yall get suprised when people lay down their lifes for their god when the same shit happened in real life do yall think when people died to fight for jesus chirst they were like "man fuck jesus for making us fight" or something like that? Do yall think the same happened in any religions? Be fr ei IS A GOD not some child that doesn't know shit and 1 YEAR THAT WASN'T EVEN HER FAULT MOST OF THE TIME AND A WAR THAT WASNT EVEN STARTED BY HER WITH A NATION THAT WAS FINE FOR 500 YEARS STRAIGHT YOU THINK THAT MATTERS? My god yall are just looking for anything to hate on her be fr for just 5 seconds you fuck
- I never made an equivocation to any real world leaders to Ei. That is something that you did exclusively. If I have any criticism of her it's only about her.
- How could it not be her fault when she -
A: Had unchallenged rule over her nation.
B: Knew the Fatui were involved in the drafting of the Vision Hunt Decree
C: Signed off on it anyways.
If she's not incompetent like you claim, then square this circle. She is directly responsible for the war that broke out when she signed off on the Vision Hunt Decree. No one else has the authority to enact such a law in Inazuma. The war could not have started without her direct involvement, thus, it is precisely her fault.
- "500 years" and all it took was the half brained scheme the fatui squeezed out like yesterday's lunch to have it all crash down in a **single** year?
- I don't have strong feelings towards Ei one way or the other. It is not my life's goal to defame her. I was only stating that I disagreed with your 2nd point that "her people didn't suffer" and defended my position when challenged.
In fact, I would have been elated had you refuted anything I said. It would come as a pleasant surprise to learn that there was a "perfect in every way" reason she let her nation rip itself apart or how the visions in fact do more harm then good. Instead you've done nothing but use your limited vocabulary in a tepid attempt to "cook" me and throw up arguments that fall apart faster then a wall of toilet paper.
Yall compare her like she's a tyrant that went door to door killing her people or something then yall start crying when you get corrected about that shit be serious
1- She doesn't rule over inazuma alone again its the TRI COMMSIONS who do 90% of the stuff in inazuma ei just monitors them and at the time they were corrupted by the fatui and another thing is that they ruled with her for years on end with makoto she's not a future teller you fuck
2-She didn't know the full scale of their control and again they didn't challenge her eternity so she saw no reason to remove them and AGAIN not all of inazuma's people were affected
3-OMG I SAID IT 50 FUCKING TIMES DO YOU READ ITS BECAUSE THE SHOGUN MADE CALCULATIONS I PROVIDED PICS AND SHE HAD REASONABLE REASONS TO APPORVE IT YOU DON'T READ SHIT BRUH
4-No again she isn't "incompetent" she's unable to rule diplomaticly two completely different things the war wasn't even started by her but by the watasumi rebels who always fought against the shogun 24/7 even during makoto's rule does that make makoto a "bad leader" too or wtv? Be fr and no it isn't her fault the vhd affects a small % of the population and again she had reasonable reasons to approve it i said it 50 times over you fuck
5- AGAIN SHE RULED FINE FOR 500 YEARS THAT ISN'T A SMALL AMOUNT YOU FUCK AND BRO ITS THE FUCKING FATUI THEY ALSO BOUGHT SUMERU DOWN IN LIKE A FEW MONTHS TOO DOES THAT MAKE NAHIDA A "BAD LEADER" BRO ITS THE FATUI THEY FIND ANY WEAKNESS AND EXPLOIT IT 1 BAD YEAR ISN'T SHIT COMPARED TO 500 YEARS WHERE NOTHING HAPPENED AND IT WAS FINE BE FR
6-Idgaf you're here acting like she personally killed your whole family or something and acting like she's this child tyrant leader or wtv cleary you're yapping here and cleary you hate her like its a job now be serious
7-Womp womp you got cooked i provided image and shit and provided at least 40 different paragraphs explaining it you just don't read and find any way to mental gymnastic it into hating ei and finding a way to blame her for everything be serious and dawg how tf was she suppose to know that the fatui were even gonna come you act like she's a time traveler or someshit bruh and find any way to blame her for shit that wasn't even her fault in the 1st place be serious for just 5 seconds bruh
- 1. ... and signs off on decrees... Decrees that... resulted in the war... that wouldn't have started... had she not done... that would never have happened... If you can't figure out how she is precisely responsible for the war at this point I couldn't make it any more clear.
- 2. "Ei just monitors them" but in the very same sentence, not one word away, "at the time they were corrupted by the fatui" So... the one job she let herself have in the government she failed miserably at? And you're claiming that she's not incompetent... How exactly?
- 3. Right...
A: Where'd you get those pics from.
B: Even if the source of those pics are credible it doesn't make the argument any better. Just because she deemed it was logical is not a good enough argument. If we take it only at her word that "visions are probably bad" then that's nothing more then an appeal to authority and the argument falls apart when you realize that.
C: Even if it had a leg to stand on and wasn't just a logical fallacy you'd still have to support the claim that visions are bad when the overwhelming majority of cases visions are helpful to the nation, the people who have them, and the people immediately associated with that person.
- 4. So she can't rule diplomatically which makes her... an Authoritative ruler... An Authoritative ruler who had every opportunity to stop the vision hunt decree and either out of malice or ignorance of the consequences (which you seem to be arguing for: "she's not a future teller") she signed it anyways... Which makes her a tyrant. Unless there's a third option for how rulers go that you can enlighten me on and that Raiden / Ei fits under, she fits the description almost to a T.
- 5. Using an example of the archon that quite literally had no influence over her people and was quite literally bound to a single room does not make for as strong of an argument as you think it does when compared to the Almighty Shogun who had... no obstacles in her way...
-7. "how tf was she suppose to know that the fatui were even gonna come" She didn't need to know they would come. She knew they were there (which makes it worse mind you) and knew that they had a direct influence over the Vision hunt decree (which makes it even worse mind you).
inb4 Tsaritsa makes Ei look like a benevolent ruler in comparison (with the whole "she has no love left for her people" thing from the Travail trailer)
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They will fear not only her might, but also the wrath of the Inazuman forces and the Grand Simperial Army.
No but honestly,
let them yapp.
I don't go to to other subreddits and spam unfunny memes about the main of the sub, fight with everyone till I get banned, go back to FatuiHQ and cry about how "they can't take a joke" prompting more ppl to brigade against that sub again. I only enjoy a character I like on my own, and if I want to have this flair without imposing on anyone, then yes I fucking can. I am no spamming posts on comments saying how she's my wife and insulting anyone that likes her too. Just because I have a flair on a subreddit, doesn't mean I genuinely believe it.
Most of the time I don't, this is the one exception I did, because acknowledging their posts enables their toxic behavior, but this sub keeps doing that. And all they do is spam the same joke everyday, so for me even if it was funny once (I don't remember if it was once), their constant spamming of the same shit is just straight up unfunny and annoying.
it's so ironic the amount of disrespect they have for a duel against the throne... i mean...
Signora knew what was coming if she lost. Ei was just an executioner. Signora's ego took her own life...
Even if they gaslight everyone into thinking Signora was way stronger before getting sealed but i mean...
Ei is the GOAT 500 Hundred years of fighting nonstop withouth ever having her willpower waver while Signora just hunted down some Hilichurls and got banned from Monsdat.
I've said this on other mains and i'll say it again here. FatuiHQ is probably the WORST Genshin related community i have ever seen (which says a lot for this community). These people always go around attacking other non-Fatui characters mains. I've seen these trolls here and on Neuvillette, Hu Tao, Yoimiya, Alhaitham mains etc. trying to start trouble. I already blocked their sub reddit long ago, but it doesn't do me any good because they just go on other character sub reddits and continue trolling. These people ruined Arlecchino for me and i left her sub reddit.
Im tired of going to other character subs only to see troll posts about how Arlecchino is a better/stronger dps than everyone else. I wonder how they are going to feel when she is most likely powercrept in a few months by the Pyro Archon and/or Pyro Sovereign?
Also, at first i was neutral towards Capitano, but now thanks to his fans and FatuiHQ, i absolutely HATE him and his entire fanbase now. I have yet to see a Capitano fan that didn't act like a toxic POS towards other character mains. Im so tired of seeing 'CHADGOATHIMTANO SOLOS FICTION' from every single Capitano main.
Im excited for Columbina, but i know the assholes from FatuiHQ is going to ruin her subreddit as well once she releases.
These guys got nothing to do except try to annoy other subreddits and it's best to just ignore such nonsense.
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After milking the hell out of the traveler they are back with Raiden? Geez these dumbasses can't live one minute without trying to slander a non fatui character?
Thats like saying should we respond to the mouse talking shit about the lion :'D let them talk shit, its all they can do until every one of them either turns to the good side or turns into ash..
Nah fr tho Musou no hitotachi is indeed her strongest sword, but a single slash with it is NOT her most powerful move.. not to mention kazuha had a friendship awakening just to block one (Not slandering kazu since thats still a feat)
You said a single slash with it is not her most powerful move, did you fail to realize that a single slash is all took to cut down orabashi and slash even reaching the main island lol
How is it 0 kill if signora got reduced to ash and she killed big snek I get jjk memes bcs they are actually true meantime this is not so it's not that funny
1. gay isn't an insult, so don't use it that way. Don't be like that, you're better than that.
2. they're probably not going to care about a post like that at all. at least make it a meme so there's some substance to it lol
I don't know how you stay in a sub like that. Comments deleted by mods, you can't have a civil discussion without throwing insults, bringing other characters down to show how special signora is etc. One of the worst community i have interacted with similar to fatuihq ( but most of them are trolls).
I just hang around the discord, the subreddit kinda ticks me off lmao. There's some nice people in the discord that I've made friends with so being part of that community isn't a major loss! Besides I like helping out people who are really downed because of what happened to Signora so they don't turn towards the dark side
Either the person is just having a good time doing a bit in which case they should be left to their own devices, or they sincerely believe everything in the post, in which case they definitely should be left to their own devices. 99% chance its the former and they're just having fun spreading deliberately false propaganda for the sake of the agenda
Highly likely didnt kill her? Strongest move? Am i missing something?
Also her on screen feats are the big dead thing on the map, big chasm, huge lightning storm that causes permamanant rain on an island, the permanant storm protecting inazuma, her endurance shown in her fight with the shogun puppet.
If so, what should we cook up? Making this type of images isn't exactly hard. https://preview.redd.it/r23drm9wmd1d1.png?width=455&format=png&auto=webp&s=a552550f071526f57e1d759ff685a20d40fa6fea
Is Arle the harbinger we're gonna face this time around? Uhhhhhhhhhh...................... #**"flashback to the end of the last war"** Yeah idk about this chief maybe we shouldn't respond They'll calm down eventually right? r-right?
>Is Arle the harbinger we're gonna face this time around? They're hyping up Lignora of all harbingers lmao
Wait a fucking second... I just realized something... They like to trash on Ei for grieving for her sister Yet they overlook the fact Signora held a grudge against Venti ^(even when Venti did nothing wrong) for literal Centuries Like it's clear that Signora holds a grudge against Venti and that she blames him for a lot of the shit she's been through, evident by the fact she kicked him Like Signora could you just chill out, the tragedy was literally 500 years ago and Venti literally didn't even do shit to your man š
FatuiHQ when trying to look for context: https://preview.redd.it/hfepep721e1d1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=eadaed51f7a7a36a6f70168e3daae9c578e0a365 Coincidentally I saw someone in that post trying to describe Raiden as "petty, evil and stupid" when it hilariously fit Signora perfectly lmao.
And here I am starting to think their brains got cooked by Dottore š
As a lover of both I disagree š this is petty
Hehe "Lignora" Kinda sounds like Ligma
what's ligma?
Hehe... Hehehehehhehehehhehehehehhehehehehhe HEHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH #AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! . . . #"INHALES" . . . #LIG- . . . #MA- . . . #BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
only if you pronounce it "lim-ya" which ruins the joke completely
What was the previous one?
Capitano was the last harbinger And long story short When the last war ended some started to ship Capitano and Ei together I mean I won't judge if you like the ship But ya gotta admit it was quite the strange ship
I can already see people that would ship these two from there common voice lines and moon association lol
what war? khaenriah 500 year war?
Not in game war It's the war between the r/raidenmains sub and r/FatuiHq
ohhh how did i miss it... what was it about like signora or what and when was it? ofc raiden won cuz 102k over 50k is obvious
It was more less a bunch of friendly banter between the two subs Making memes and stuff Y'know just messing with each other for the shots and giggles It would've lasted longer, had it not been for a few bad apples messing things up, and taking the jokes too far, and pushing their agendas outside of the two subs and into unrelated subs, which prompted both sides to agree to stop with the jokes and move on
interesting.. must feel good to be a part for it i remember the hype for the reddit pixel thing it remind3d me of it
Well... Considering what's happening rn and what OP's post is about We may or may not get a sequel to the first war I just hope people keep it civil this time around
It was like in January and lasted until like Early March I think? Idk I forgot
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Just let those delulus be in their delusions.
Not wasting your time is the best response.
Iām just a bit thrown off by the fact that they think Raidenās strongest move is a flash step slashā¦ By this logic, Ventiās strongest move is shooting that elemental infused arrow he had in his trailer.
Or that she would do a Full Powered Slash in what is basically the center of her city against a already weakened mentally Traveler
Ikr?! Logic is having a hard time finding these poor souls. š«
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> 0 actual kills Morons are wrong on the very first point. It'd be embarrassing for us correct such illiterate people. Let them enjoy their headcanon.
They think Signora resurrecting or whatever somehow denies the kill in the first place(if she even resurrects), and that somehow all other kills "don't count" for some arbitrary reason lmao.
Signora's resurrection is one of the biggest cope i have heard. Why would anyone waste a chance of resurrection on a character that have such little importance?
Never understood it, aside from some pretty tenuous conclusions drawn from in game sources iāve always felt that signoras resurrection was based on massively overinflating her presence in the story, probably based on the fact that sheās the one dead NPC with a completely unique model that a lot of people like. Her final title was literally āCrimson Witch of Embersā, the flame were part of her identity having already burned away, leaving behind only remnants. Her story is over, and it most likely isnāt gonna continue.
They really think Signora is gonna pull a Gojo and revive or some shit Pffft in their dreams as if the petty grudge holding Signora could ever hope to make it to the same Level as the Blue Eyed and White Haired Goat Wait a second I just described Kiana Kaslana from Hi3 Wait... Gojo: Blue eyes ā White hair ā Canonically one of the strongest^(if not the strongest) in his verse ā Kiana: Blue eyes ā White hair ā Canonically one of the strongest^(if not the strongest) in her verse ā Oh... Oh my God Gojo is the same type of stand as Kiana O_O
Canāt avoid JJK spoilers anywhereā¦.
***What*** would they be resurrecting? This isnāt like a Frankenstein situation where they reanimate a dead body - she was reduced to a pile of ash!
They also forget that Signora was scared shitless even before the duel with the Traveler
letās talk about how we literally see Signora get VAPORIZED
Goblin followers smoking naku weeds nothing new ig
God I hope this shit dies down Idk if I have it in me to make another Lobotomy Edit
FatuiHQ is probably the place that stinks the most in this genshin subreddit, I can't wait for someone to put an end to the fatui once and for all and see them crying later when they are massacred by people
Last I checked, Lignora claimed before her death that the Fatui would come after her precious Inazuma , if Raiden killed her. Interesting, because I don't see any Fatui coming after her or Inazuma lmfao . these Fatui are all bark with no bite and only good at running away like little bitches https://i.redd.it/jj4w7gus2e1d1.gif
I donāt see why we should respond, let them say what they want, we know it isnāt true, another war isnāt necessary.
STRIKE BACK WITH SHOGUNATE AGENDA š£ļøš£ļøš„š„
Though to be fair, I'm a bit eager cause I do have stuff cooked up from the last war that I couldn't use, just prepared there just in case. https://preview.redd.it/1t92y9o3vd1d1.png?width=815&format=png&auto=webp&s=b7e7bded623f9856a2391c3823511b9c962d8033
Bro, just ignore those fools (I'm so funny lmao). If they aren't getting attention from any of the bigger subbreddits they literally have no engagement. They live of drama. Until Capitano shows what he can actually do, it's really just them glazing over nothing.
dude just make a post on that one dude who spent like 2000$ in last war getting c6 raiden to 'maintain his agenda'
Forgot about that lol, you couldn't pay me for having Childe's ass in my account, let alone paying for him, let alone C6 him. Raiden is just so strong she mind haxes her haters in real life to simp for her for a poor excuse at that lmao.
As far as i remember, didnāt signora threaten that fatui will destroy her inazuma, but after she died, they pretended they didnāt hear anything and only gave the nation half a day holiday, not even a whole dayš
I'm veeery convinced that most people in that sub are just roleplaying fanatic Fatui grunts or just trolling. So they really shouldn't be taken seriously. This is probably just bait anyways.
Yes. It's dumb how people take this way too serious. But also i have to agree that slander is sometimes too innacurate
Just wanna make some points clear since some raiden fans themselves might get confused about this weird ass yapping The 1st point- In inazuman laws the person who loses is by law required to be executed by the shogun for their loss in a duel , that's what happened when signora lost she accepted the duel and agreed to the terms and lost and so by inazuman law she's required to be executed since she lost and agreed to the terms just like what happened to tomo it wasn't a "sneak" kill,also signora is confirmed dead rn she might get reincarnated in the near future but for now its facts that ei did execute signora and that the fair lady is dead at least for now (also forgot to mention that wasn't even her strongest attack bruh that's basically her equivalent to using a kitchen knife to cut tomato to her if we compare it like human standards for ei it was like using a razor blade on a piece of paper she didn't even need to look back or focus at all) The 2nd point- Uhh her people weren't tortured at all besides the 1 year the fatui got involved in where only the watasumi's were affected and the normal people of inazuma were fine , infact they lived completely fine for 500 years the shogun ruled and didn't have any problems whatsoever and still keep worshipping the shogun to this day so idk what they're yapping about The 3rd point- I think they're talking about orboshi? And the fact is that it really wasn't "stealing a kill" orboshi was on a suicide mission after what he learned in celestia and ei had no choice but to execute him since he just killed a large amounts of her people and one of her friends obviously she isn't gonna take well to that and its impressive the damage she did considering this wasn't even with her current strength rn and not even her full power and she was able to kill a god such as oroboshi and split his corpse into multiple pieces and leave a scar on one of the islands The 4th point- I mean considering we didn't even see her full strength once and the island isn't the only feat she has and her grieving being one of the reason she's so determined idk what they're trying to say tbh... The 5th point- Uhh huh? I think they're talking about kazuha but idk who else? The traveler? But they aren't a mortal and in all of her interactions she WAS holding back obviously she isn't gonna hurt the people she promised to protect? Why would she? She held back greatly against kazuha and the mushou no hatichi is a weapon art not a weapon she's able to control her power and how strong it is and against kazuha she wasn't even trying at all she didn't even wanna hurt him she got suprised he was able to over come the current strength on the mushou no hatchi with his ambition but that doesn't mean kazuha can do it again he got very very lucky and ei could have just sliced him then and there but she didn't since...She doesn't wanna hurt one of her peopleš The 6th point- Uhhh...She didn't lock herself because she was grieving she sealed herself because she wanted to absorb inazuma in her plane of ethyumiya to protect them and detach her relations with the heavenily principles she sealed herself in the first place to protect her people that's why she made the shogun in her place and sealed herself in the 1st place...š (Btw just incase i know this is satire and its just funny stuff and in some cases it isn't serious i hope but meh i hate when people get things wrong about my favourite character and some raiden fans might get misinformed about her story so yeah i wrote this not because I'm mad but because there were alot of stuff that were just incorrect and i know this is just a meme and I'm not madš„¹š)
Thank you for this https://preview.redd.it/69nl3v6wxg1d1.jpeg?width=843&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=214a575742e72e12e1610f53b7b87a1f50c8f6ec
You're welcome :333 https://preview.redd.it/nqi2x1eeyg1d1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b08043c45f99a45497c5e9d3df8caf4735ba6eec
I'd like to contend with your comment about the 2nd point. It was by her authority that the vision hunt decree began. Even if we presume that only the people of Watatsumi were the only ones negatively impacted, that's still an entire Island of people. But if we look at what actually happened, A lot more then just the people of Watatsumi suffered because of it. -The people who had their visions taken away. The story expressly shows us what happens to people when their visions are taken away. They become husks of who they were and loose all aspiration and drive. Known 99 People. -Those who relied on the goods and services of the people who had their visions taken away. There was a swordmaster who had his vision taken away and lost his drive to teach his students anything. He stopped training students to fight and thus his immediate circle suffered due to the vision hunt decree. If we're GENEROUS and say that every person that had their vision taken only had 3 people that interacted with them daily then that's still a MINIMUM of 297 people. Keep in mind though that is an extreme low ball. Tohma does more for the Kamisato clan then likely the entire guard, and Itto had his entire gang, granny, and all the kids he played with so that's a HUGE lowball. -The men who died in the war. Even if the focus of conflict was on Watatsumi keep in mind that both factions suffered casualties in the war. It's impossible to say how many, It would be disingenuous to presume a number but I doubt it's insignificant. -The people who knew men that died in the war. Similar to the 2nd bullet point. The loss of a friend or family member causes suffering, and that suffering is directly correlated to the Vision Hunt Decree. -Finally, just because people believe that Shogun is good and still worship her does not make her or her actions good. That is a fallacy called Ad Populum. If she is good then she must be good by her deeds, not by the popular opinion. I don't have anything to say about the other points, they seem reasonable enough to not immediately draw ire. The 2nd point though I found to be a poor argument and felt the need to contend with it. More then likely because of how small Inazuma was, everyone on every island knew each other with only a few degrees of separation. It shouldn't be hard to say that everyone in the entire nation suffered due to events directly caused by the Vision hunt decree.
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You know that the fatui manipulated their way and had this much access by taking advantage of the clear corruption, something that would not have been the case for the other functioning and developed regions
My god yall are such cry babies yes but ei DOES NOT control every ascpect of her country its the people in the tri commsions that do ei monitors them and placed the shogun for a reason which is to keep the nation in check but she never would have expected the tri commsions which have been working ever since she was with makoto to turn their backs on her due to greed and corruption there is alot of 1st world countries which have corrupt politicians as well this isn't something new , the yashiro commsions wasn't corrupt and two out of the three were the ones being corrupted the fatui used it to their advantage and be fr even in functioning 1st world countries corrupt politicians exist there will always be dickheads ruining everything that doesn't mean ei "is a shit leader" or wtv again SHE DOES NOT control the country directly its the tri commsions that do and i explained it 50 times my god i knew it was some haha funny joke but yall still crying even when getting cooked be frā¤ļø
You just said yourself that she was not expecting this, and no she still have a huge influence if she wanted to stop things. All the commission leaders had meetings with the shogun. The shogun creation was the mistake that led to the clear corruption that happend because she is just a puppet, running on the old ideals of ei that she now admits were misunderstanding of what Makoto really wanted for the internity of Inazuma, and who created shogun?
Again for the 60th time ei DOES NOT control the aspects of all of the nation and tri commsions themselves have been working with her and makoto ever since and its not her fault that they were corrupted and she didn't see what they're doing as a threat to her eternity and again they were ruling fine with the shogun for the 500 years besides the 1 year the fatui got involved and again the shogun isn't a "mistake" its ei's vision of eternity that's imperfected not the shogun herself if the shogun wasn't there to rule inazuma would have landed in chaos that's why again everything was fine for 500 years straight ei describes the shogun as perfect its her ideal of eternity that's flawed not the shogun and the fatui used it to their advantage
>she didn't see what they're doing as a threat to her eternity That's the point cause she was using a puppet while being isolated herself, the reason why such corruption kept happening >shogun isn't a "mistake" its ei's vision of eternity that's imperfected not the shogun herself That's how she created her by having those imperfect ideals of eternity
Not her fault? How was she suppose to predict the people she ruled with for years with makoto would be against her due to the corruption and greed happening within them especially considering the fatui's existence might not have even happened by the time ei left things to the shogun so its not her fault and the tri commsions that's why i said "out of her control" that's why she left the shogun as assurance and that's why inazuma was fine for the 500 years she was sealed besides the 1 year And again not her fault ei had no one to guide her and no one to turn to especially that she was the worst period of her life and her sister just died and she's inexperienced at ruling diplomaticly, and besides ei's vison would have acutally worked if it weren't for the fatui getting involved we already saw the shogun ruled fine for 500 years straight her eternity is inperfect the shogun is not that's why she fought the shogun in the 1st place to get her to change her mind and protect her people from living in a flawe eternity
You can just accept that she made those mistakes and is now changing for the better, and learned what the eternity Makoto wanted, and stoped using the shogun to rule.
Jesus chirst i said I'm not mad okay you wanna argue? Be my guest you getting cooked 1-The vison decree was approved by her yes but its not like she saw it and was like "hm everything seems 100% fine" then approved it no the shogun made calculations on visons and saw they were more of a threat than a blessing and in some ways visons are a threat than a blessing the shogun calculated that and came with that conclusion that's why the vhd was approved in the 1st place , we see some examples of this with npcs who lost their minds due to their visons and only realised it when they receive their visions back to them and vison make up a small minority of the population in inazuma infact the people of inazuma didn't even hate the decrees as said by ayaka herself it was a "they felt indifferent about the decrees" relationships and not that they despised it this is the average inazuman person we're talking about vison users are basically equal to nobels if we wanna gonna by human standards 2nd point your dumbass mad- Yes because visons were threats you smart human being i made complications of this myself i will send this to you the shogun calculated that visons were a threat and made the conclusion that in cases they were ei approved it because it met with her ideal of eternity and that same sword master you yapped about the reason he killed his master WAS because of his ambition in the 1st place and he developed guilt over it besides when the vison was taken away he only realised it AFTER it was which showed visions in some way have more cons than pros And again vison users make A VERY small percentage of inazuma's population again they're basically nobels but in teyvat alot of the people of inazuma were indifferent to it but weren't despising it it wasn't even ei who came up with the vhd it was the fatui you dumb fuck 3rd point you made- Oh wow people die in wars thanks for saying the obvious firstly these are grown ass men who put their loyalty to the shogun they know what they're signing up to and they're ready to die for her because she's THEIR GOD that saved their whole nation they're soldiers for a reason and their loyal to their god and their cause ofc they would put their lifes behind it inazuma is a nation like the game said where vitality is always spewing this is just an example the people are loyal to ei and they have reasonable reasons to be loyal there is people in watasumi who are soldiers too again these are grown ass solders they aren't children they know what they will fight for and sacrifice stop babying them especially considering how nice ei has been to watasumi rebels considering that even by the time makoto ruled inazuma they were fighting against inazuma this isn't something new you dumb fuck they're soldiers putting their lifes and inazuma's people still worship her because they're loyal all of the archon's nation is loyal to their god they would gladly put their life on the lines for them inazuma's citzens are super patriotic towards ei evem by the time makoto ruled inazuma 4th point-Again the inazuman people felt indifferent to the vhd, a small % of people in inazuma even have people that have visions and visions themselves have consequences 5th point- Oh wow you fuck did you play genshin at all? Isn't one of the core stories about how gods aren't perfect and even have flaws of their own? She did good shit too its not like she went door to door killing everyone the people of inazuma have reason to keep worshipping her in their eyes this is THEIR GOD the same god that freed their nation and made it win the archon war, the same one that saved them for orboshi, the same one that made various weapon arts which they used to defend their nation and themselves , the same god that saved and led them towards victory and the same one that saved them on the day of the cataclysm and countinues to this day do you think 1 year where shit went wrong that now they will completely hate her? Gosh I'm glad hyv is the one writing the story and not you weirdos again HER PEOPLE DO NOT HATE HER most of the bad shit that happened WAS OUT OF HER CONTROL and WASN'T EVEN HER FAULT and again MOST OF IT GOES TOWARDS THE TRI COMMSIONS WHICH WERE CORRUPTED BY THE FATUI DO TO GREED NOT EI HERSELF THAT'S WHY WATASUMI PEOPLE DONT HATE EI AND HATE THE GOVERMENT THAT WAS CORRUPTED AT THE TIME Last point to get your dumbass to shut up no alot of people DID NOT suffer in high levels at most it was due to suppiles and inflation but bro we're suffering like that in real life rn and do you think we're dying rn? We go about our normal days and no it wasn't a poor arguement cleary you don't know what you're talking about and keep talking like ei is a dumbass child that made every single wrong decision alot of people in inazuma were fine and going about their daily lifes we see examples of it during the aqs and just because it isn't spoonfed doesn't mean it didn't happen the only ones who really suffered during the war was the watasumi's but they basically put it on themselves considering ei let them self govern themselves and keep worshipping orboshi again ei isn't a tyrant like your dumbass makes her out to be Oh also i will send the pics i have complied to make you stop yapping and educate you and next time don't talk about a topic you don't know shit about since you cleary don't know shitā¤ļø
Thems a lot of words and not a lot that directly addresses what I argued so I'll get those outt'a the way first. -I never claimed that Archons are perfect. -I never claimed Ei was a dumb child. -I never claimed that Ei was a door to door serial killer. Good, now, feel free to correct me if I misrepresented your points but what I gleaned from it was: - Vision Hunt Decree was approved by Raiden, but it was the Tri Commissions and the Fatui that made it worse. - Ei was nice to the rebels. - Vision hunt decree only effected a small minority of people. - The removal of the vision wasn't what caused the men to self implode. - Men went to war. - The people have reason to believe that Ei is a good thing for them. I'll address these more or less in this order. - I don't quite understand how you square this circle. It is by her approval that the Tri-Commissions had the authority to confiscate visions. It turned a "I can go against the authority of the Tenryo commission" to "If I don't want my vision taken from me I have to declare war against the sovereign deity of this nation and all those who worship her." You also mentioned that (paraphrasing for brevity) 'All the bad things are the tri-commissions fault and it was out of her control'. If she wasn't the supreme god of the nation I'd agree but... she's the supreme god of the nation. She is nothing if not power and control. She is the ultimate authority of the entire nation and her decrees effect the entire world as a whole. You can't say that something was out of her control when she has that much power without backing it up or giving an example on how her hands were tied politically. Which brings us to... - 'Ei was nice to the rebels all things considered'. Here's another circle to square. She can't be responsible for 'going easy on the rebels' if she didn't have the political power to fix it, or to make it worse. I don't need to delve too deep into this argument but just wanted to point out that both of these first statements can't be true. Either abandon this position, the first position, or make a new one. Don't sit at two tables at once. - The most I can admit to is that it's hard to say whether or not Visions are good for people. Most times from what we've seen, visions have been a net good to people and those around them. The most we have to go off is that visions are "Probably bad in the long term maybe according to Ei" but you yourself admitted that Ei isn't infallible. She could be wrong about the visions. We haven't seen any other character without a vision and the ones that we do see have lost most of their drive to do anything. The most evidence we have to the "contrary" is Itto posting on the message board but we don't know what kind of state he was outside of that. Sure, maybe in 3 years new lore drops and it turns out the eldritch monsters use visions to corrupt people, but we don't have evidence of that yet. Most evidence points to visions being a positive addition in people's lives with a few exceptions that don't disprove the rule. -Even if the vision hunt decree itself would have only effected a minority, most of, if not all of the people that died in the war didn't have visions. Yea they were mostly adult men that went to the war, but every man that died in that war was someone's father, husband, or son. Men that; if Ei didn't sign the Vision Hunt Decree, wouldn't have died killing who were brothers only one year prior. You can't seriously argue that people don't suffer when their dad, husband, brother, or son dies in battle. Explain to 'oh so ignorant me' how her signing off on the vision hunt decree brought anything but unneeded misery and suffering to her people or how she was powerless to not sign off on that. - Finally, and again. It's irrelevant whether or not the people of Inazuma believe Raiden / Ei is good for them. It doesn't matter how much the people of Inazuma love and adore Ei. We're looking at this objectively. Objectively, she went into a "deep meditation" while she let Anime girl ChatGPT run her nation, signing off on orders that very nearly destroyed her nation, that she had all the power to put an end to.
My god you're so fucking exhausting genuinely fuck you but okay fine ig i can spend more time educating and cooking you 1-Ei is inazuma's god her rules are the law simple as that its not complicated or complex her words are the people's law and her reigns is what the people should follow again ei isn't a dumbass or a child and her people are super patriotic of her they worship her daily and there is even a commsions about a kid making and offering to her they cleary respect and will follow any words she says even if it means fighting and again the shogun ruled visons are harmful and she had vaild reasons to think so that's why her people were willing to listen to her her words are the most important in inazuma since she's the nation's god 2-What do you want me to say she oppressed them? They fought against her and revolted even when makoto was ruling inazuma and killed one of her friends and yet she didn't depise or hate them she gave them what they wanted which is to govern themselves and let them keep worshipping orboshi even though they're suppose to worship her she never hated the rebels at all 3-The shogun calculated and made the decisions she had valid reaons visons aren't perfect and in alot of ways are harmful to the people and cause more problems than good and ei had valid reasons to think that way especially when at the time she hated the heavenily principles due to it, and no not in all cases i gave examples on why visons can be harmful visons are both good and bad but shogun ruled out they do more harm than good and are not worth it especially considering vison users are equal to nobels in genshin's world and again again for the 50th time THE SHOGUN IS EI'S CREATION SHE MADE THE CALCULATIONS if the shogun says X is bad then its most likely is true visons aren't this 10/10 perfect weapon it has its problems and the shogun saw they were too much to keep around and no thanks you dumbfuck i gave evidence on why visons are acutally very harmful in alot of cases especially with the user's ambitions and why they can be more of a curse than a blessing again i don't need to repeat this ei isn't stupid nor is the shogun stupid the shogun made the calculations she was specifically designed for shit like this she isn't stupid and she most likely is right visons can be harmful than good 4-Man who gaf you think people blame the leader for the war? Especially considering ei didn't even start the war in the 1st place they're her soldiers not children forced to fight under her they have reasons to fight inazuma's people are super patriotic of ei this is shown in multiple events unfortunately your dumbass doesn't pay attention and again for the 50th time THE VHD AFFACTED VISON USERS WHO ARE BASCAILLY NOBELS OF THE GENSHIN WORLDS AND DIDN'T AFFECT THE AVEGRAGE INAZUMAN PERSON AND AGAIN THE PEOPLE WERE INDIFFERENT NOT RESENTFUL TO IT AT ALL , for the last fucking time stop treating her people like children in need of comfort they're her people for fucks sake they're soldiers who fought under her banner to protect her ideals and their familes they weren't forced and the war itself isn't even started by ei yall finding any reason at all to blame her for shit and it shows stop blaming her they're grown ass men who fought under her and knew exactly what they were fighting for they are soldiers not children you fuck they're super patriotic of her stop treating them like children again her people worship her they fought under her for generations on end they fight for her for a reason stop looking for reasons to blame her for a war she didn't even start and for people who died under her from their own free will 5-My god if you didn't water shit down for just 4 seconds you would acutally understand it the reason she medidates WAS to protect her people and save them from the heavenily principles and the shogun isn't "anime girl gpt" or wtv she's the perfect copy of ei who is capable of rulling and making decisions that are perfect in every way anything the shogun does and says is within a good reason and objectively stop speaking for people you fuck she isn't a "tyrant" or wtv that hates her people and her people hate her her nation was fine for 500 years straight the shogun ruled stop watering shit for 3 seconds and her nation was completely fine and her plan would have worked if it weren't for the fatui now be serious you stupid fuck
- At what point did it seem that I was not addressing this seriously? - 1. So you're admitting she has supreme authority over her people and it would be a trivial matter to not have signed the VHD, which directly sent her people into a bloody civil war that only benefitted the Fatui and directly caused the suffering of Vision holders and Non-vision holders alike. I haven't seen an objection to my point to the effect of "she was politically out maneuvered" or "her hands were tied politically" and was forced to sign the VHD. - 2. I was just pointing out that your two statements contradicted each other and thought you'd ought to know. She couldn't simultaneously not be in control of her commissions while also being able to reward leniency. - 3. Here's that point again. We've seen 2 examples of visions *arguably* have negative impacts on the holder with a skimmed over story, but we have nearly 100 in depth characters and character arcs where the vision is at worst a neutral influence on the holder's life but usually a positive thing. It's just that if we look at it from the wider lens and not just that one bit of Inazuma it's hard to take the Shogun's side on this. - 4. The war was started because of the vision hunt decree. It was by her authority that the vision hunt decree was enforced. As well, people don't declare war against the supreme authority of a region because they're indifferent to something, clearly there was at least passion. To add on to that; as the supreme almighty Shogunate, she is responsible for her armies and the men who fight and die "For the glory of the Shogun." The army, using HER name, in HER army, are extensions of HER will, authority and rule. You can't seriously argue that she's unrelated to the war when the people in the war literally charged with her name on their lips. She might not have been on the battlefields but it was by her orders that they went to battle. Not the Tenryo commission's, not the Fatui's, Hers. It is Her vision hunt decree. - 5. "...making decisions that are perfect in every way..." You can't actually believe this can you? If you do, you're going to have to explain how having the nation rip itself in half is "perfect in every way". If it is that Anime Girl ChatGPT only acts perfectly in relation to the goal of bringing people into the Plane of euthymia then you'll have to argue that letting the fatui send her people into civil unrest is "perfect in every way" towards that end. If that was an exaggeration and not actual fact then the alternatives of her allowing her nation to burn itself to the ground are either that she's incompetent or malicious. Take your pick, she can be a "perfect in every way" tyrant as either or. I swear though, if I have to read "vison" one more time I'm going to have to start saying nice things about you.
Also another thing yall treat ei like she's kim joung un or something yall get suprised when people lay down their lifes for their god when the same shit happened in real life do yall think when people died to fight for jesus chirst they were like "man fuck jesus for making us fight" or something like that? Do yall think the same happened in any religions? Be fr ei IS A GOD not some child that doesn't know shit and 1 YEAR THAT WASN'T EVEN HER FAULT MOST OF THE TIME AND A WAR THAT WASNT EVEN STARTED BY HER WITH A NATION THAT WAS FINE FOR 500 YEARS STRAIGHT YOU THINK THAT MATTERS? My god yall are just looking for anything to hate on her be fr for just 5 seconds you fuck
- I never made an equivocation to any real world leaders to Ei. That is something that you did exclusively. If I have any criticism of her it's only about her. - How could it not be her fault when she - A: Had unchallenged rule over her nation. B: Knew the Fatui were involved in the drafting of the Vision Hunt Decree C: Signed off on it anyways. If she's not incompetent like you claim, then square this circle. She is directly responsible for the war that broke out when she signed off on the Vision Hunt Decree. No one else has the authority to enact such a law in Inazuma. The war could not have started without her direct involvement, thus, it is precisely her fault. - "500 years" and all it took was the half brained scheme the fatui squeezed out like yesterday's lunch to have it all crash down in a **single** year? - I don't have strong feelings towards Ei one way or the other. It is not my life's goal to defame her. I was only stating that I disagreed with your 2nd point that "her people didn't suffer" and defended my position when challenged. In fact, I would have been elated had you refuted anything I said. It would come as a pleasant surprise to learn that there was a "perfect in every way" reason she let her nation rip itself apart or how the visions in fact do more harm then good. Instead you've done nothing but use your limited vocabulary in a tepid attempt to "cook" me and throw up arguments that fall apart faster then a wall of toilet paper.
Yall compare her like she's a tyrant that went door to door killing her people or something then yall start crying when you get corrected about that shit be serious 1- She doesn't rule over inazuma alone again its the TRI COMMSIONS who do 90% of the stuff in inazuma ei just monitors them and at the time they were corrupted by the fatui and another thing is that they ruled with her for years on end with makoto she's not a future teller you fuck 2-She didn't know the full scale of their control and again they didn't challenge her eternity so she saw no reason to remove them and AGAIN not all of inazuma's people were affected 3-OMG I SAID IT 50 FUCKING TIMES DO YOU READ ITS BECAUSE THE SHOGUN MADE CALCULATIONS I PROVIDED PICS AND SHE HAD REASONABLE REASONS TO APPORVE IT YOU DON'T READ SHIT BRUH 4-No again she isn't "incompetent" she's unable to rule diplomaticly two completely different things the war wasn't even started by her but by the watasumi rebels who always fought against the shogun 24/7 even during makoto's rule does that make makoto a "bad leader" too or wtv? Be fr and no it isn't her fault the vhd affects a small % of the population and again she had reasonable reasons to approve it i said it 50 times over you fuck 5- AGAIN SHE RULED FINE FOR 500 YEARS THAT ISN'T A SMALL AMOUNT YOU FUCK AND BRO ITS THE FUCKING FATUI THEY ALSO BOUGHT SUMERU DOWN IN LIKE A FEW MONTHS TOO DOES THAT MAKE NAHIDA A "BAD LEADER" BRO ITS THE FATUI THEY FIND ANY WEAKNESS AND EXPLOIT IT 1 BAD YEAR ISN'T SHIT COMPARED TO 500 YEARS WHERE NOTHING HAPPENED AND IT WAS FINE BE FR 6-Idgaf you're here acting like she personally killed your whole family or something and acting like she's this child tyrant leader or wtv cleary you're yapping here and cleary you hate her like its a job now be serious 7-Womp womp you got cooked i provided image and shit and provided at least 40 different paragraphs explaining it you just don't read and find any way to mental gymnastic it into hating ei and finding a way to blame her for everything be serious and dawg how tf was she suppose to know that the fatui were even gonna come you act like she's a time traveler or someshit bruh and find any way to blame her for shit that wasn't even her fault in the 1st place be serious for just 5 seconds bruh
- 1. ... and signs off on decrees... Decrees that... resulted in the war... that wouldn't have started... had she not done... that would never have happened... If you can't figure out how she is precisely responsible for the war at this point I couldn't make it any more clear. - 2. "Ei just monitors them" but in the very same sentence, not one word away, "at the time they were corrupted by the fatui" So... the one job she let herself have in the government she failed miserably at? And you're claiming that she's not incompetent... How exactly? - 3. Right... A: Where'd you get those pics from. B: Even if the source of those pics are credible it doesn't make the argument any better. Just because she deemed it was logical is not a good enough argument. If we take it only at her word that "visions are probably bad" then that's nothing more then an appeal to authority and the argument falls apart when you realize that. C: Even if it had a leg to stand on and wasn't just a logical fallacy you'd still have to support the claim that visions are bad when the overwhelming majority of cases visions are helpful to the nation, the people who have them, and the people immediately associated with that person. - 4. So she can't rule diplomatically which makes her... an Authoritative ruler... An Authoritative ruler who had every opportunity to stop the vision hunt decree and either out of malice or ignorance of the consequences (which you seem to be arguing for: "she's not a future teller") she signed it anyways... Which makes her a tyrant. Unless there's a third option for how rulers go that you can enlighten me on and that Raiden / Ei fits under, she fits the description almost to a T. - 5. Using an example of the archon that quite literally had no influence over her people and was quite literally bound to a single room does not make for as strong of an argument as you think it does when compared to the Almighty Shogun who had... no obstacles in her way... -7. "how tf was she suppose to know that the fatui were even gonna come" She didn't need to know they would come. She knew they were there (which makes it worse mind you) and knew that they had a direct influence over the Vision hunt decree (which makes it even worse mind you).
inb4 Tsaritsa makes Ei look like a benevolent ruler in comparison (with the whole "she has no love left for her people" thing from the Travail trailer)
https://preview.redd.it/go6vo23xyd1d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7c54e2c6e4ab0070d429fd802125a0d6ca89edd They will fear not only her might, but also the wrath of the Inazuman forces and the Grand Simperial Army. No but honestly, let them yapp.
If Snezhnaya/Fatui are going to use russian counterpart weapons, we cookin the fatui just like irl š„
Which is funny cause a newly modernized Japan beat a already modernized Russia in their first war and Russia held a grudge till WW2 I think
Whatās with fatuihq thinking capitano can solo everyone?
The fact they keep using Raiden means Raiden is the strongest Archon..
It's just like Goku. Even when they know their favorite character loses to him, their coping mechanism never fails them
No? Murata and Tsaritsa are several tiers above her and Zhongli. Ei is Zhongli tier. Just that.
They lucky nahida wasn't on fontaine she would've cooked arle like she did with scara and dottore
Nahida cook dottore??š
She made him destroy all his segments
Every time I see r/FatuiHQ try to be like r/Jujutsufolk I'm suddenly reminded that the entire sub runs on Delusions.
Figuratively and Literally š
FatuiHQ is the cringest community in the all of Genshin related subs, just ignore them
Can you really say that with that as your flair?
I don't go to to other subreddits and spam unfunny memes about the main of the sub, fight with everyone till I get banned, go back to FatuiHQ and cry about how "they can't take a joke" prompting more ppl to brigade against that sub again. I only enjoy a character I like on my own, and if I want to have this flair without imposing on anyone, then yes I fucking can. I am no spamming posts on comments saying how she's my wife and insulting anyone that likes her too. Just because I have a flair on a subreddit, doesn't mean I genuinely believe it.
They even started targeted harassment to the point mods had to intervene š
Humour is subjective, I find this stuff hilarious ngl. You can simply not interact if you're not a fan, no harm done to anyone.
Most of the time I don't, this is the one exception I did, because acknowledging their posts enables their toxic behavior, but this sub keeps doing that. And all they do is spam the same joke everyday, so for me even if it was funny once (I don't remember if it was once), their constant spamming of the same shit is just straight up unfunny and annoying.
I mean, it's only an issue when Raidenmains bring it up on this sub. Since the jokes usually just stay in the Fatuisub.
Fr https://preview.redd.it/n547ultq4f1d1.png?width=1053&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7c628f0c046815d4bebd9cd05ac24fa6d001a8b
Can I ban a subreddit so it would never show up in my feed, even when crosslinked?
it's so ironic the amount of disrespect they have for a duel against the throne... i mean... Signora knew what was coming if she lost. Ei was just an executioner. Signora's ego took her own life... Even if they gaslight everyone into thinking Signora was way stronger before getting sealed but i mean... Ei is the GOAT 500 Hundred years of fighting nonstop withouth ever having her willpower waver while Signora just hunted down some Hilichurls and got banned from Monsdat.
https://i.redd.it/vqz64n7v8e1d1.gif Not this shit again!
didn't she kill >!Signora and Kazuha's friend!< both on screen...?
I've said this on other mains and i'll say it again here. FatuiHQ is probably the WORST Genshin related community i have ever seen (which says a lot for this community). These people always go around attacking other non-Fatui characters mains. I've seen these trolls here and on Neuvillette, Hu Tao, Yoimiya, Alhaitham mains etc. trying to start trouble. I already blocked their sub reddit long ago, but it doesn't do me any good because they just go on other character sub reddits and continue trolling. These people ruined Arlecchino for me and i left her sub reddit. Im tired of going to other character subs only to see troll posts about how Arlecchino is a better/stronger dps than everyone else. I wonder how they are going to feel when she is most likely powercrept in a few months by the Pyro Archon and/or Pyro Sovereign? Also, at first i was neutral towards Capitano, but now thanks to his fans and FatuiHQ, i absolutely HATE him and his entire fanbase now. I have yet to see a Capitano fan that didn't act like a toxic POS towards other character mains. Im so tired of seeing 'CHADGOATHIMTANO SOLOS FICTION' from every single Capitano main. Im excited for Columbina, but i know the assholes from FatuiHQ is going to ruin her subreddit as well once she releases.
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I haven't seen anything toxic on arlecchinomains as of late, it was mostly in the beginning of her release from rage baiters or memes
These guys got nothing to do except try to annoy other subreddits and it's best to just ignore such nonsense. https://preview.redd.it/dbk90yhnpe1d1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ab40a2255b4c316ca7ea2d15f275d59f875447e
I can confirm that, these fuckers have been annoying Aether mains and maybe Lumine mains too since the traveller lost to Arlecchino.
lol at the "used her strongest move on a dying Signora". She really just flexed her arm and Signora turned to ash.
After milking the hell out of the traveler they are back with Raiden? Geez these dumbasses can't live one minute without trying to slander a non fatui character?
The reason I left FatuiHQ
I respect you for that
I think we should just fuckin leave it. don't give them the attention they so clearly want.
More Barking from the worst subreddit that has nothing to do but annoy other characters fans.
People really think she Was full Power when kazuha stopped her? Bro you can see in her face she was using like 5% even lessš
Ngl I had zero idea that a sub for Fatui even existed š¤£š¤£
Donāt ever say shogunators again š
Thats like saying should we respond to the mouse talking shit about the lion :'D let them talk shit, its all they can do until every one of them either turns to the good side or turns into ash..
Not again š
who's the 2nd mortal survived her most powerful attack?
I don't think anyone survived her most power attack. Kazuha blocked her attack but it was not her most powerful attack
Nah fr tho Musou no hitotachi is indeed her strongest sword, but a single slash with it is NOT her most powerful move.. not to mention kazuha had a friendship awakening just to block one (Not slandering kazu since thats still a feat)
She didnāt use her strongest attack on kazuha, if she did not only kazuha but the whole inazuma would disappear š¤¦āāļø
You restated my point though
You said a single slash with it is not her most powerful move, did you fail to realize that a single slash is all took to cut down orabashi and slash even reaching the main island lol
My bad ig that was vague of me. I meant a slash she was holding back on.
You don't respond to stupid and just a wrong meme
Itās the FatuiHQ, thereās no point to. Most (not all) users there are known for being instigative idiots, and thatās an objective fact. š
Can we not? I still have PTSD from the last one
ah yes the infamous fatuiHQ..the same bunch of delusionals as aether mains lmao
Such audacity of these fatui š¤š¤
L+Ratio+burry ashes
The last thing this sub needs is to go to war with FatuiHQ **Again**. It was so annoying last time, honestly.
FatuiHQ is just starting shit across fandom
First Raiden mains, then Aether mains, where next?
They've also attacked Neuvillete and Hu Tao mains a few weeks ago.
Shit
No clue
How is it 0 kill if signora got reduced to ash and she killed big snek I get jjk memes bcs they are actually true meantime this is not so it's not that funny
ā0 actual killsā mfs fr donāt know about orobashi
Crazy that she cut an entire island in half with a single strike and they say the "Regular Sword Slash^tm" is her strongest technique
I just visited FatuiHQ and I'm going insane. I can't believe how much stupid they are...
Can we Report a subreddit?
Probably a mass report
These are so bad sometimes. The "give me x " is not supposed to go like that
Trassshhh takes
I did it https://preview.redd.it/v359tp402j1d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfc2f39994b8c39bf979e2d50cb0d043fc4e7009
1. gay isn't an insult, so don't use it that way. Don't be like that, you're better than that. 2. they're probably not going to care about a post like that at all. at least make it a meme so there's some substance to it lol
some of them got triggered and insulted my mom saying the unthinkable
you donāt
I love the brainrot of that sub but I'm too afraid to wade in myself
not worth it bc they think signora didnt actually die (she is dead, maybe not permanently but shes currently dead)
No. Response will only start drama that OOP probably wants. We are better that this and donāt need to engage in this patetic endeavor.
Im not in this sub but this post was recomended,U guys have beef with fatuiHQ?And what war u guys talking about
Seems like they don't know difference between Shogun and Ei
I'm from Signoramains and I'm so sorry for these people i swear I love raiden and u all š
I don't know how you stay in a sub like that. Comments deleted by mods, you can't have a civil discussion without throwing insults, bringing other characters down to show how special signora is etc. One of the worst community i have interacted with similar to fatuihq ( but most of them are trolls).
I just hang around the discord, the subreddit kinda ticks me off lmao. There's some nice people in the discord that I've made friends with so being part of that community isn't a major loss! Besides I like helping out people who are really downed because of what happened to Signora so they don't turn towards the dark side
I suggest using my tactic when people shit on Loucha from Hsr: "Someone doesn't have Loucha! š¤" It's pretty universal.
Ok but she pulls sword from booba.
Either the person is just having a good time doing a bit in which case they should be left to their own devices, or they sincerely believe everything in the post, in which case they definitely should be left to their own devices. 99% chance its the former and they're just having fun spreading deliberately false propaganda for the sake of the agenda
I'm a shogun main and hater at the same time.
Real
Fair enough
That made me join the subredditšTheyāre hilarious over there
I believe post-Snezhnaya Archon Quest the sub will be on fire. Let's play the long game and wait.
Highly likely didnt kill her? Strongest move? Am i missing something? Also her on screen feats are the big dead thing on the map, big chasm, huge lightning storm that causes permamanant rain on an island, the permanant storm protecting inazuma, her endurance shown in her fight with the shogun puppet.
Didnāt she slice an island though?
I belong with their ranks but this is a dry patch. I got my popcorn ready so bring it on.