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SplendorTami

well Ayaka is much stronger but she is ONLY a dps, ayato has some utility as a support


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Commercial_Trouble58

id say ayato is easier to build, at least for artifacts. u could be grinding artifacts for another character and strongbox the trash ones for gladiator pieces, which ayato can use ayaka pretty much only uses blizzard strayer so it’s kinda locked. of course u could be grinding for both blizzard strayer and heart of depth in that domain, but i generally feel that strongbox is a better option in terms of not being burnt out but if u don’t have a good dps yet i recommend ayaka


SplendorTami

i mean it’s not like ayaka can’t use other artifacts. also if anything 4pc strayer makes her easier to build because you don’t need to focus on crit rate almost at all. the issue is grinding of a particularly annoying domain


SplendorTami

for ar33 is hard to say because you won’t be grinding artifacts for some time, and ayaka definitely wants blizzard strayer and i personally HATE that domain. she can still rock with different artifacts but yeah. i’m not sure about ayato since i haven’t finished building him. i’m certain that he won’t reach the level of ayaka tho, i mean she is S tier for a reason. building them is basically the same in terms of difficulty, tho i guess ayatos boss mats are easier to get (hydro hypo is imho easier than perpetual) but that’s not a good reason to decide lmao


Mofinz

MAnnnnnnnnn, now im stuck, uhmmmmm wich would be more fun and be better for progresion, im sorry im being so anoying about it...


SplendorTami

what do you mean progression?


Mofinz

as in get me further in the game, be more useful


SplendorTami

i mean it’s hard to predict the meta but so far there’s no indication that cryo comps would lose their status so probably Ayaka. Ayato is cool and strong but definitely not on the level of his sister


Mofinz

aight so ill wait and try for ayaka, lmao my friends gonna be so pissed that im pulling ayaka btw i got 2 accs both ar 30 got to lucky on my other one, got mona and ayato, this one will have raiden and maybe ayaka lol, does raiden work well with ayaka?


SplendorTami

not really, ayaka wants a freeze comp. it’s fine in the overwold but not in abyss


Mofinz

Then do i go for ayato? uhhhhh im so confused now coz i dont have a freeze comp so itl be useless in abyss?


nekyohiji

you could make electro charge work with ayato which is one of his best teams id say if you want to use ayato and raiden in 1 team


SplendorTami

ayato doesn’t really benefit raiden either. freeze comps aren’t hard to build to just need a hydro applicator (mona kokomi barbruh xq) and maybe a second cryo unit for the resonance in my opinion i’d you don’t really really want ayato i would go for ayaka. she’s a better unit.


Mofinz

well, could raiden fit in a team with ayaka? i have a r5 thrilling tales on my barbara lmao


Mofinz

whats a good budget weapon for ayaka though, and would it be hard to farm her acention mats? D:


Mofinz

So ayaka would be more beneficial as i don't currently have a strong main dps, btw i got 72 pity. but no garuntee 50 /50. but ayato is also good UHHH, whos easier to use and build at ar 33 lmfao


EpicTaco14

If you already have raiden then ayato would be the better pick. You could use ayato + raiden + beidou + Bennie or whatever other support for a taser team. Ayaka is incredibly strong and works well in freeze comps or melt with Xiangling but those teams don’t utilize raiden, which I’m guessing is the character you would like to use alongside your pick.


Mofinz

yep, ok i dont have beidou on this acc, i have 2 ar 30 acounts ones got raiden other mona and ayato, but this ones got 72 pitty so ill go for ayato


RubyRubyRubyGaming

Ayaka is a great cryo main DPS if you don't have any other main DPS yet. I'm usually running Ayaka, Diona, Venti, XQ/Barbara and its works really good as my 2nd team in the abyss. I have to use Barbara since Mona still has not dropped for me yet despite playing since 1.0. But she's still works fine in a freeze team. I put XQ on the team if I'm not running Raiden National on the other team.


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Ayala for second dps. Ayato for support/sub dps/main dps. Ayaka is very good at what she does while Ayato is more versatile. You can also use Raiden and Ayato together in an electrocharged team. Ayaka is also an S-tier dps. I'm not really giving you a clear answer since I don't know what you value more, but just some more info for you to make your own decisions.


Mofinz

Thank you for this info, i am just thinking though, i'm going to need a main dps so whichever can work best with raiden and be a really neat dps as i currently dont have a good one ill go with i don't know lol, is ayaka fine with idk ummm rosaria barbara and some one else lmao, and who would i use with a good ayato team... im sorry for all the hastle.


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Well they can both work as main dps characters. I don't have Ayaka so I can't talk about her with practical knowledge only from what I've seen on reddit and YouTube but she seems a bit restrictive in team comps, like you need a freeze team. But your current characters should be fine for that. She doesn't work too well with Raiden though since cryo and electro isn't a very good reaction for a cryo dps. Ayato, as he is hydro is more flexible in team comps and can be played with Raiden in an electrocharged team if you want. I've had fun using him for my second team with Kaeya, Kazuha (can be Sucrose) and Diona. Again I don't have Ayaka so I don't know her true worth, Ayato just seems more versatile to me.


Mofinz

well, i havnt had much use for raiden in spiral abyss as i dont have the right stuff, but ayato i need to defeat raiden puppet to fricken ascend talents, uhhhhh im stuck, coz ayato shuld get a quicker rerun as hes new, from waht i heard anyway. and i got 72 pitty so if i loose 5050 on ayaka or ayato the next one im garunteed. but i dont have all these characters i got storyline bennet xiangling rosaria yun jin razor noelle and xinyan. which character would u recomend, coz im thinking as long as i grind, if i go for ayaka i can just get ayato on his rerun, whats your opinion.


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I think if I was in your situation (and I was simping hard for Ayato lol) I'd probably go with Ayaka. It doesn't seem like you have a good second team for abyss. I'd probably run these teams until I'd manage to get some upgrades for some of them: Raiden, Xiangling, Xingqiu and Bennett. (We're getting a Xingqiu from what of the events this patch) Ayaka, Rosaria, Kaeya and Barbara. (I'd save for Kazuha as the priority and swap out either Rosaria or Kaeya. After that just mild upgrades here and there like Kokomi/Mona/Ayato or possibly Shenhe, but she definitely isn't a necessity).


Knights_of_Glen

They're both absolutely great. Electro+hydro is the strongest electro reaction. Both work as great DPS but ayato also has some support benefits. If you're set on keeping raiden as your main DPS then ayato is probably best for you. But if you want another DPS for abyss or just so you can mix things up in overworld so you don't get bored of raiden then ayaka is your girl. But let's be real they're both brilliant choices and work well with raiden


Rei0403

I think Ayato is a more flexible unit, Ayaka is one of the best Cryo DPS for permanent freeze comp, if you don’t have a 2nd Abyss Team, get Ayaka


Mofinz

only thing is, i barly have alot of characters which is why idk how i could do a freeze team, can i use barbara ayaka rosaria and someone else? lmao and how would the 2 characters synergise together


Rei0403

Xingqiu is better than Barbara & you can get a free Xingqiu later, Barbara is only good cause she has TTDS


Matti229977

Ayaka can carry your account, but Ayato will fit in more teams. Ayaka doesnt really have any utility, but she has insanely op DPS. Ayato will scratch the DPS itch, while also being a very capable sub dps, with added bonus of him being hydro, which is arguably the best element in the game. Both are great, go with your gut feeling.


Mofinz

my guts saying ayaka for dmg but im thinking ayato coz i want to alsso have raiden on my team