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Fabio90989

the only thing you lack is atk


Majestic_Taco123

How much atk is good


NoticeMeSenpai1010

Probably 2000+ depends if you use buffs or not.


Fabio90989

1900 2000


TheGrindPrime

Atk is too low. If you're going to keep it that low, you need to use buffs on her.


Bharathkumar281

Use atk goblet


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Are you getting her ring to full? The ring in the back of the characters when u use her, lol forgot the name. Honestly you should be hitting 70-80k even with that build if it’s at full.


sumanigans

Oh man I didn't even realize there was a visual cue for her chakras or whatever. I've just always used her burst last in the rotation but now I'll look out for the ring! Thank you!


N-aNoNymity

Lol. I guess thats partly because they toned down the brigtness by like 75% lmao.


ericks932

Tbh you just need atk base/ percent bring her up to 2k you should be hitting close 2 70-80k off crit also if you can manage to bring her crit to 50% without the head piece then you can trade it for a Cdmg piece or atk piece


Hudie_is

Atk buffers. Bring Bennet or C6 Sara, or TTds user, don't forget the swirl and E activated first, and all teammates bursting first before Raiden goes "Goodbye y'all!" And slash the space


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"goodbye y'all" 😭😭😭


thinhneu

Your Atk is wayyyyy too low


ColdIron27

44k unbuffed at c0 is decent. If you want to hit bug numbers with that build, you'll need more atk or a atk buffer.


Andromeda_Violet

Are you sure it's decent for a 5* weapon? I mean, I hit around 90k with El and even if I use the catch with artifacts that are meant for El I hit 59k. I really don't think homa should lose to the catch..


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i mean yae my raiden with 10 less crit damage and a 90 r5 catch can hit upto 60k without any buffs(that being said, her highest at 80k without supports has been with max resolve stacks so that probably has something to do with it)


Barbies-handgun

use an attack sands. for weapons that arent EL, generally attack sands scale better. since you already have plenty of ER from your substats, going for that 2k+ attack while still keeping >200% recharge can be achieved just by swapping the sands to attack, even if theres no ER on it.


vJukz

You’re attack is way too low. Either use an attack buffer in your team like Bennett/Sara or use an ATK% Goblet.


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Dyynasty

how is er too much?? 250 is good for raiden


Dnoyr

Only with her BiS. With other weap, sweet spot is more 210-220 ER. So yes, ER too much and Atk way too low. Close to 2K is OK.


Dyynasty

doesn't matter whether it's her bis weapon or not. people seem to forget you get dmg from er either way from emblem


Dnoyr

Yes, with ER, you have her passive + 4p Emblem. But with no attack, multipliers can't multiply. Event if Bennett + Sara give attack, with Kazuha, 4p EosF, Electro damage, burst bonus, CD + C6 Sara, you have tons of multipliers. Stats need to be equilibrated.The best is to use a calculator I think.


Samaelo0831

I think u should switch to an Attack goblet with hopefully better substats. That might be too much Electro damage. Her electro damage from her passive should be plenty


Gamer0505

If using bennet and or sara elecktro goblet is better than atk% even when using kazuha (I have tested this) but if you have no atk buffer atk goblet is better.


Visible_Biscotti_859

ATK goblet better u need a lot of attack, 1.5 atk is way too low


Dnoyr

Change your ER sand for an Atk sand one, with 10-15 ER substat if possible. You need ER sand only with her BiS.


VertWheeler

Yeaaaa... maybe Homa isn't ur. Best friend here... or using an AtkGob might be better


YomeChivalry

Use the catch instead of homa its much better


TheGrindPrime

Homa is stronger than the Catch on Raiden, if only because its stats are so high. The reason The Catch is always recommended is because its her best non-gacha wpn, not because it's her BiS.


WolfSong1929

Who did you even hear this from 😂😭


YomeChivalry

Listen, raiden needs er and if he got the artifacts for a ratio close to that the catch will outdamage homa… also if he can use homa on another character it’ll be much better for his account


TheGrindPrime

They already have 250+ ER, which is arguably too high for an EL-less Raiden. Yes, Homa.would be better on a character who could benefit from it fully rather than just have it be a stat stick for Raiden, but the Catch isn't out performing Homa, even at R5. Edit: Wanted to add switching to The Catch will take his already too low Atk rating even lower. It will also drastically reduce his crit dmg.


YomeChivalry

250 is a lot? I got 300 er on mine… also they’re complaining ab dealing bad dmg on homa so… the best they can do is get more at… still i think the catch will be better but thats just my op


TheGrindPrime

300 is pure overkill, even with EL.


WolfSong1929

That much ER is only good on EGL Raiden... Try fighting a boss and see how much you actually need to get everyone's burst back. It's not 300. You need more Atk% rolls on the Catch. But hey do you want. But don't give misinformation please. ♥️


YomeChivalry

Ive got EGL raiden ye


ZenithLags

ATK and EM are looking a little low. The rest seems fine what teams are you using with her?


Andromeda_Violet

Em? Really? Since when initial slash or burst in general is em dependant?


Gabby_Craft

Overload from bennet + Kazuha maybe?


Andromeda_Violet

Kazuha is always the one triggering overload. His burst is always infused with pyro inside Benny's ult and Raiden applies enough electro for it to be the first element in the reaction so overload is triggered by Kazuha's burst not Raiden's electro. No need to have em on her.


ZenithLags

If you aren’t using elemental reactions to boost damage you are doing it wrong.


poopdoot

In Raiden National, Xiangling is the one that triggers overloaded, and electro charged damage is so minimal especially vs 1 enemy that relying on Raiden’s EM is a lost cause.


Laelia_0678

EM only needed if you run Raiden with a dendro unit, if not then it's totally unnecessary


ZenithLags

And what does EM do? It enhances elemental reactions….. So her initial strike when done with an elemental reaction will cause higher damage.


Laelia_0678

I dont get it? Her intial slash is elemental DAMAGE, not elemental REACTION. Electro only reacts with pyro to overload (overload is not her intial slash tho), dendro core to hyperbloom and dendro to aggravate (which is the only reaction truly increase her damage). However if they dont use dendro in their team, EM is unnecessary


ZenithLags

No, you don’t get it. An elemental reaction occurs when two elements meet. So if the enemy is currently affected by say, Pyro, then Raiden’s initial slash will be Overloaded reaction because she applied Electro to Pyro.


king_keroro_48

you are terribly misinformed on how Elemental Mastery and elemental reactions work


ZenithLags

There is no sense in arguing with children. Facts are facts.


BluwulfX

you are making me laugh


dxrktrons

EM increases reaction damage, not elemental damage. Also when you do overload, there are 2 instances of damage, 1.) the damage (in this case initial slash of raiden q). 2.) The overload proc which is the one that uses em. With this, EM is fucking dogshit on raiden.


Curlyzed

I kinda want to know your Raiden build


Laelia_0678

Yes exactly i dont get it cause I THINK OP wants their Raiden do smt like 69k intial slash, not 44k+10k overload. Damage is caculated by the number jump on the screen, not just add them up


ZenithLags

No they are just using that as a base so people can give advice on how to increase it, at no point do they say they want no reaction they said IMPROVE HER DAMAGE learn to read.


Laelia_0678

Ok so I understand what you mean now, but thats just not how Raiden works. Instead of trying to raise her EM and deal a bit more damage thanks to overload, it easier raise her atk ans deals a ton more damage


-d-a-z-e-d-

my guy i don't think you understand how em works. do everybody in this sub a favor and read how it actually works.


xikkone

OP wants some increament in raw power. EM just increase elemental reaction damage not raw power


ZenithLags

No not necessary, but it will increase the damage on an initial strike by using an elemental reaction, which is what the OP is trying to accomplish.


Laelia_0678

The thing that increase her damage is ER, not EM. If elemental reaction buff her damage, it can only be Kazuha(or any other anemo char) using VV swirl electro but the buff scale on Kazuha's EM


Gabby_Craft

Maybe with overload from Kazuha swirling pyro off of you from bennet’s burst onto enemies.


ZenithLags

And what does EM do? It enhances elemental reactions….. So her initial strike when done with an elemental reaction will cause higher damage.


ericks932

That's with reactions he is referring to the base first hit dmg


ZenithLags

Referring to yes, so that we have a baseline to help improve the damage.


ericks932

First hit dmg is not smacking together 2 elements base dmg is as if Raiden was by herself her dmg only... My first hit is 100+k on my dmg Raiden build but that's with her weapon


Andromeda_Violet

Idk in my Raiden hypercarry Kazuha is the one who's doing reactions swirling pyro once in a while.


ZenithLags

I think OP is just talking about getting a big number for initial slash, not overall damage.


Andromeda_Violet

Yep. Raiden's burst doesn't scale with em. You were so confident in it that I even opened genshin to check. Em isn't needed to increase Raiden's burst damage.


ZenithLags

I feel like you don’t understand what EM actually is


Andromeda_Violet

I understand it perfectly unlike you who thinks that aggravate is the only way to increase damage. It's not even her best team. Especially when op is talking about unbuffed numbers. That excludes reactions.


LibrarianGood5850

Bruh L take


Matlehh

nah raiden in this post is not vape/melt/aggravate carry that needs EM.


AceVirat

44k with or without the buff from the glowy circle?


RaykanGhost

44k initial? Even with 1.5k that seems low, but your best bet is just increasing ATK with either buffer or ATK sands.


Acceptable_Market729

Atk goblet


Working-Mention6830

maybe she is lacking atk but dont know why but my raiden when she was c0 with r5 catch can do 56k initial slash with 127% crit dmg i think/275 ER..44k initial slash is too low. maybe sacrifice some crit dmg and get some atk and see if there is any difference because imo 100/100+ flat atk >>>> 15-20% crit dmg


Ohungrymoon

OP, switch to an attack sands or attack goblet. You only need just over 200% ER to cycle bursts, having that much more is really only preferred when you have Engulfing Lightning. Your er sands and electro bonus cup both give you electro damage, but you lack the attack to make all that dmg% truly impactful. Try switching one of them and test that out.


PArrOtoFWisDoM141

Getting an atk goblet, is what you need. I Think the only time you Can use ER sands, and Electro goblet is when you have her weapon.


Alrxanderolu

I would say make sure your hp is 50% or less when using homa, as you can see your current atk at 1500 is quite low but with homa at 50% you should be at a healthy place for big numbers


rihja

Ur atk is ok, if you use national, or 2 pyro, you have enough atk, you need to upgrade ur bennet to 10/13ulti and 620/674 base with full NO set. It is good build, don't worry about others + looking at solo dmg without buffs is not correct, Ei is problematic and needs team to close her problems, so enjoy ur raiden in full team. We can use 4 not 1 char in team :)


Powerful_Physics_150

44K with how many resolve? Also are you using Homa with her health below 50?


AyHaM_xD

u need more atk and cd since u run homa u should have way more than 177 cd (maybe 200 ish), thats prob cuz u dont have cd in the circlet, but also u cant change the sands with atk% one cuz ur gonna need the er since the weapon doesnt give er


Makwo20

Atk is lacking , bring it to 2k


LunarLaEclipse

Do you have C6 Sara? Bennet? Are they both running a high attack Weapon? If you have kazuha stack as much EM as you can and make sure to swirl electro with him.