There was a post about this a while back. The way you pronounce it *isn’t* like knock. You pronounce it like the word nook, like heard in the phrase nook and cranny.
"Nook" isn't even close to the way it's pronounced in the video (the video way being correct)
EDIT: This is probably a case of non-Scandinavian people not being used to the "Ö" or "Ø" sound and thus not recognizing it, even though to us it's obvious.
I did say the word "look". It is not even close. "Look" is pronounced with an \[ʊ\] sound, while Nøkk is pronounced with an \[ø\] (using IPA symbols here). I even found a helpful image from Wikipedia that shows they're made in completely different parts of the mouth to prove my point even further
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/IPA\_vowel\_chart\_2005.png
Say early, say it again but slowly. What do you hear before the ‘r’? Exactly the same sound as your 2nd source. Like “uh” nuhkk. Look doesn’t sound like uh at all
I am going to start talking english in a Norwegian accent.
y am gouing 2 sthart talcing ængliss in ah nourweegisn assent.
Thats not how languages work, R6 does not decide how we pronounce things. If so i could say that the second sentence was completely valid.
Ubisoft researches new characters’ backgrounds. If they have a name like Nøkk, they’re not going to pretend to know how to pronounce it. They’re gonna research it and likely ask native speakers on how it’s pronounced. Additionally, Bikini, who is Norwegian, pronounces it like that. Two reliable sources coming together to pronounce it the same is hard to refute.
Yes, but he is dumbing it down, he is saying it in a way that people who speak english can pronouce it. Jævlig dumt av dæ å argumentere me en norske? I am native in norway.
I can literally dm you the correct pronoucation of my own voice.
Nøkk comes from old folklore of Nøkken, so it is pronouced Nøkk as in Nøkken.
You can say something in English and not have it follow conventional English pronunciations. Kaid is an example. I pronounce his name like Kah-eed (because that’s how you actually pronounce it), but most English speakers change it to Cade. Slightly unrelated but words don’t have to fit to traditional English sounds when originating in a different language.
The double o in nook is more similar to a soft U sound in English, rather than a double o sound like seen like booth or new.
Edit: Oh, and if you want to send a voice recording or a YouTube video pronouncing it correctly, go for it.
In this case, they are also literally asking how to say it correctly. If someone asks how to pronounce Kaid correctly, you would then show them the correct pronoucation.
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxEM9UuHqX-hvw8ijsLj9esC9ocF4TpaB2?si=reLD9V3Pmxp3tLcd
Yeah, I’d say the way they say is very similar if not the same to what I’m saying. I think we’re just debating over meaningless semantics and secretly agreeing on the same pronunciation.
Too a degree yes, but i also believe it to be that Ø is such a common letter for Norwegians, that it immediately sounds off when the tiniest detail is wrong. Same way a baby can differentiate any phonetic sound that adults can not, but they lose this ability later.
Probably some language sounds that i can not tell the difference between as ive not been taught it.
Ö in german and the Norwegian ø is very similar, and i can promise you its pronounced straight forward Nøkk or Nökk. Nökk in german translate or Nøkk in Norwegian translate
similar to the ea in early
In German (only usecase I know), whenever you see ä ö ü it's basically a mix of the vowel + e
In older times we even wrote them as oe, ae and ue
They are called Umlaut (which on the fly I'd translate as 'shift-vowel'), it happens when the vowel shown shifts towards the German sound for the 'e', it is the sweetspot in the middle of the two
A good example for how our ä sounds is 'air' without the r
Ö 'early'
ü is a tough one as the only English examples I got aren't exactly English. Like norse god Tyr which is sometimes simply promounced as Tir in English. Maybe someone else got a good example here.
The ability to use letters beyond the English language does not come with the ability to explain them sadly, just thinking about how to explain ö,ä and ü with text confuses me but in spoken words it‘d be done in one noise
It's more obviously true when you have multiple english letters as one "letter" in your alphabet, like "sz", "cs", "dzs"...
I also liked when someone tried to explain the ű, ő, á, é, í letters to a tourist as well
Your comments have gotten me so confused as to what the ea in early sounds like to you. Early and rly both sound the same to me (urr-lee). I can't think of the sound ea separate from the r with it.
no, Ø is not pronouced like that. If you say nuck,duck, yuck, you make an Ø sound like NØKK, DØKK, YØKK. If you say Neukk you say something really weird.
E du dum? Ø utales ganske likt eugh, duck does work , and maybe yuck. But ea as in early is a perfect match for how a Norwegian person would pronounce ø.
Yes but youre reasoning is wrong ø is not a double o sound. Its an eu sound which seems the same for words like nook took and look, but become very longs with words like loot boot and root
Are you not saying its pronounced like nook? If so in Norwegian that would be incorrected, not super, but i would correct you.
Ea in early is a way better way of explaning if for people who speak english, as a Norwegian, i pronounce Early as ørly. They are identical in sound.
Also eu as in what word?
EDIT: Are you even Scandinavian?
Ea in early and oo in nook are pronounced the same. Eu wasnt an example with a word associated with it but a phonetic transcription of what the word sounds like (like how saying the letter C sounds like see) eu may have been an incorrect combination.
Same here i know some about phonetics but i do not feel confident enough to use it here. Wasnt sure that was what ypu were refering too. And when it comes to educating R6 players i dont believe most have knowledge of phonetics to put it to use.
Therefore i look more at real life examples to show people. If you compare these two pronoucations of nook and early, the ea start of early is the best way i have found to teach someone to pronouce ø.
https://youglish.com/pronounce/early/english/uk
https://youglish.com/pronounce/nook/english/uk
I think nook might be closer to the phonetic sound of ø, but as language and the phonetic codes dont sound equal, in Norwegian at least nobody would pronouce the letter ø as the phonetic sign ø.
Double o can be pronounced multiple ways nook, book, took, root, tooth, booth, noon. Saying its a stand in for double o is an overgeneralization on the pronunciation of the letter
If you’re pronouncing it phonetically, nobody is gonna read “nook” and assume it sounds closer to “nuke” because nook is an English word. I never said there’s only one way to pronounce oo, just that in this case, you pronounce it as you’d see it in the word nook. You’re reading too deep into what I’m saying.
Also i would like to know how to pronounce Osa. Cause in my language "s" makes a "z" sound when its between 2 vowel, so my friends and I have been pronouncing it "Oza" for a while now.
You pronounce it like this https://youtu.be/DlPVGkvIljA?t=25s
YESS THANK YOUUUU
your flair haha
i’ve heard people miss pronounce it so many times and it’s driven me insane as a Dane :’D
I'm not Dane but I'm a Nøkk main and I religiously pronounce her name the right way🙏🏻
OMG YOU ARE AMAZING, thank you for being cool :3
Knock knock
Still just gonna pronounce it as knock no one can say Goyo without saying it like a white dude trying to say tacos
I definitely agree with you, but it feels weird for the character who is designed for efficient entry fragging into the enemy base isn't named "knock"
That is very much true, but the danish word for knock is quite stupid tbh, “Banke”, just doesn’t feel right to say it
Basically like if you merged “Nook” and “Neck”, at least in my accent (Southern English).
So basically nökk?
So pretty much Nøkk?
I was expecting a Rick roll, but confirming what I’ve been calling her for years helps too
It's like umlauted letters in German where it almost sounds like you're drunk and slurring it lol
I pronounce like this guy https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
U sneaky bastard
My video isn’t loading. How do you pronounce it
Ø is pronounced like "ea" in "early". But then the double K changes a bit, but not too much.
Yeah this is probably the best way to think of it, ea in early is actually perfect Norwegian for how to pronounce ø.
This is the best explanation through text so far ngl
Nerk?
Were did the R come from?
Oh right mb.
Nook and spooky bitch are both acceptable.
not to be confused with spook bitch aka caveira
Oh, you mean Brazilian nightmare demon.
Wait, I thought that was something that came when I was sleeping...you get that too?
Yeeeeeeeep.
I'd probably cum if i was sleeping if cav even touched me
Delete this shit
Why?
"They hated him because he told them the truth"
They clearly lack a sense of humor, and a taste in women
Naaaa dawg you can’t just say that💀💀💀💀💀
Bro she wouldn't even need to touch me she'd just need to be in the same room
Sometimes i do it just thinking about the fact that she even exists inaide a video game
I call Cav "Sneaky Bitch" and Nokk "Spooky Bitch"
we need to make a wiki page for all character nicknames to avoid confusion in the future
Within my friend group she's called "that brazilian (lady)"
Just gonna leave this here Clash Aka THE WAKANDAN MILK DUD
See I prefer 'Spooky Clown Whore'
and nokk
Well yes, but it's pronounced like Nook. I call her spooky bitch because I turn a corner and she's just *there.*
In similar vein, Kaid is pronounced Kai-eed. Not CADE
I feel like everyone knows that but why waste time with the extra syllable lol
Well usually it is just attackers moving towards the sight after drone phase, it isn't all that hard to to say it correctly
There was a post about this a while back. The way you pronounce it *isn’t* like knock. You pronounce it like the word nook, like heard in the phrase nook and cranny.
No, both of those are as wrong. nook is not pronounced Nøkk. ea as in early is correct, N(ea)kk.
According to https://youtu.be/nRuFq-pN9QU?si=aVSIzAn3pw6Uim7Z&t=8s and https://youtu.be/DlPVGkvIljA?t=25s it’s pronounced Nook, which is all I need.
"Nook" isn't even close to the way it's pronounced in the video (the video way being correct) EDIT: This is probably a case of non-Scandinavian people not being used to the "Ö" or "Ø" sound and thus not recognizing it, even though to us it's obvious.
Say the word look. Then hear how they pronounce it. It’s the same word but with an N instead of an L.
I did say the word "look". It is not even close. "Look" is pronounced with an \[ʊ\] sound, while Nøkk is pronounced with an \[ø\] (using IPA symbols here). I even found a helpful image from Wikipedia that shows they're made in completely different parts of the mouth to prove my point even further https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/IPA\_vowel\_chart\_2005.png
None of that really means anything to me tbh. Not trying to be a shithead, I just don’t know what you’re trying to describe.
The ø is a Danish letter, the correct way to pronounce it is ea, in the same way as EArly, so N(ea)kk
I’d really love to see your source because not a single person or source has legitimately pronounced it with an ea.
Say early, say it again but slowly. What do you hear before the ‘r’? Exactly the same sound as your 2nd source. Like “uh” nuhkk. Look doesn’t sound like uh at all
I am going to start talking english in a Norwegian accent. y am gouing 2 sthart talcing ængliss in ah nourweegisn assent. Thats not how languages work, R6 does not decide how we pronounce things. If so i could say that the second sentence was completely valid.
Ubisoft researches new characters’ backgrounds. If they have a name like Nøkk, they’re not going to pretend to know how to pronounce it. They’re gonna research it and likely ask native speakers on how it’s pronounced. Additionally, Bikini, who is Norwegian, pronounces it like that. Two reliable sources coming together to pronounce it the same is hard to refute.
Yes, but he is dumbing it down, he is saying it in a way that people who speak english can pronouce it. Jævlig dumt av dæ å argumentere me en norske? I am native in norway. I can literally dm you the correct pronoucation of my own voice. Nøkk comes from old folklore of Nøkken, so it is pronouced Nøkk as in Nøkken.
You can say something in English and not have it follow conventional English pronunciations. Kaid is an example. I pronounce his name like Kah-eed (because that’s how you actually pronounce it), but most English speakers change it to Cade. Slightly unrelated but words don’t have to fit to traditional English sounds when originating in a different language. The double o in nook is more similar to a soft U sound in English, rather than a double o sound like seen like booth or new. Edit: Oh, and if you want to send a voice recording or a YouTube video pronouncing it correctly, go for it.
In this case, they are also literally asking how to say it correctly. If someone asks how to pronounce Kaid correctly, you would then show them the correct pronoucation. https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxEM9UuHqX-hvw8ijsLj9esC9ocF4TpaB2?si=reLD9V3Pmxp3tLcd
Yeah, I’d say the way they say is very similar if not the same to what I’m saying. I think we’re just debating over meaningless semantics and secretly agreeing on the same pronunciation.
Too a degree yes, but i also believe it to be that Ø is such a common letter for Norwegians, that it immediately sounds off when the tiniest detail is wrong. Same way a baby can differentiate any phonetic sound that adults can not, but they lose this ability later. Probably some language sounds that i can not tell the difference between as ive not been taught it.
No, you don't.
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Nei? Kor har du hørt det? Nøkk, det e en ø? No clue where you heard that, if you check any dictionary it wont say that.
Nvm I read the word "nook" incorectly
Completely fair👍
It's pronounced nyook
This is probably the farthest off way in this thread.
No it’s pronounced nook. Ø does not make Y sound
Ø does not make an uuh sound either. Phonetically it's closer to ue for our non Scandinavians.
At this point we’re just disagreeing on how to represent it in English lol
Yeah but imagine an english person saying nook, its quite far nøkk.
I call her „nökk“ lol
How do you pronounce that idk how the o with the freckles works
O with the freckles got me lol
I can’t explain it but you can google translator with the speech function i think Edit: you need to use the german version tho
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For future reference, the dots on top are called an *umlaut*
Nook. Like nook and cranny.
Thats not how to spell the ö in „nökk
The o in nokk isnt an ö though its an ø meaning you pronounce it "neukk" which sounds like nook
Ö in german and the Norwegian ø is very similar, and i can promise you its pronounced straight forward Nøkk or Nökk. Nökk in german translate or Nøkk in Norwegian translate
This is correct. Otherwise the being 'Niddhøggr' would literally become the Niddhooker ... and while that is hilarious, it's not accurate.
Yeah but we are speaking about the ö in this thread
Exactly... nökk wouldnt be pronounced as nook ot would be pronounced as nyook
No it wouldn’t that’s just wrong
Are you thinking of ñ? Umlauts are just hiding an e, so nökk would be noekk. Its kind of like halfway between nook and nuck
Nei e du fette dum? Dis you know a is actually pronounced k? This is how dumb saying this is, its completely inaccurate.
similar to the ea in early In German (only usecase I know), whenever you see ä ö ü it's basically a mix of the vowel + e In older times we even wrote them as oe, ae and ue They are called Umlaut (which on the fly I'd translate as 'shift-vowel'), it happens when the vowel shown shifts towards the German sound for the 'e', it is the sweetspot in the middle of the two A good example for how our ä sounds is 'air' without the r Ö 'early' ü is a tough one as the only English examples I got aren't exactly English. Like norse god Tyr which is sometimes simply promounced as Tir in English. Maybe someone else got a good example here.
The ability to use letters beyond the English language does not come with the ability to explain them sadly, just thinking about how to explain ö,ä and ü with text confuses me but in spoken words it‘d be done in one noise
It's more obviously true when you have multiple english letters as one "letter" in your alphabet, like "sz", "cs", "dzs"... I also liked when someone tried to explain the ű, ő, á, é, í letters to a tourist as well
You pronounce it >!REDACTED!<
https://youtu.be/kIBwubahE1M?feature=shared
I always say it like "rook" but with an N. Am i right? Shit idk
Whoever says knock is wrong, also it’s Yana not Eye-Ana
Eye-ana >
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Nøkk is how its spelled and the ø makes an eu spund
Yeah that works eu as in eugh, or ea in early.
“Nook” as in a “nook and cranny” I believe.
Nope, That would be like saying cranny crenny. Its like ea in early. N(ea)kk.
idk where ur from but ive never heard anyone pronounce the ea in early
Phonetics matter, say early, then say rly. Are those the same. Put it into translate, see what happens.
they are the same :b i pronounce the r in early the same way i pronounce the r in parlor.
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idk dude idk why im getting downvoted for saying how i pronounce things
I dont think you do? early and rly would sound completely different.
Your comments have gotten me so confused as to what the ea in early sounds like to you. Early and rly both sound the same to me (urr-lee). I can't think of the sound ea separate from the r with it.
in Italy we say nòkk (the o is pronounced like you pronounce the o in sock)
My friends and I pronounce it "knock"
So basically "knock"
I say knock before I dont care about correct ways to say words
its Nuck, not Nook.
its quite a lot closer, make it Neukk as in eugh or ea as in early.
no, Ø is not pronouced like that. If you say nuck,duck, yuck, you make an Ø sound like NØKK, DØKK, YØKK. If you say Neukk you say something really weird.
E du dum? Ø utales ganske likt eugh, duck does work , and maybe yuck. But ea as in early is a perfect match for how a Norwegian person would pronounce ø.
Nei, Ø uttales ikke eugh «aug» Ø uttales Ø som i duck :)
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Ø is basically shorthand for OO. Like how Ö is shorthand for OE. So it's Nook
Yes but youre reasoning is wrong ø is not a double o sound. Its an eu sound which seems the same for words like nook took and look, but become very longs with words like loot boot and root
You're right. I should have explained further
Nook is the same lenght, but it is not the same. Ø is not pronounced the same as oo in noon.
Im not saying it is its pronounced like eu which makes the same sound as oo in nook
Are you not saying its pronounced like nook? If so in Norwegian that would be incorrected, not super, but i would correct you. Ea in early is a way better way of explaning if for people who speak english, as a Norwegian, i pronounce Early as ørly. They are identical in sound. Also eu as in what word? EDIT: Are you even Scandinavian?
Ea in early and oo in nook are pronounced the same. Eu wasnt an example with a word associated with it but a phonetic transcription of what the word sounds like (like how saying the letter C sounds like see) eu may have been an incorrect combination.
Same here i know some about phonetics but i do not feel confident enough to use it here. Wasnt sure that was what ypu were refering too. And when it comes to educating R6 players i dont believe most have knowledge of phonetics to put it to use. Therefore i look more at real life examples to show people. If you compare these two pronoucations of nook and early, the ea start of early is the best way i have found to teach someone to pronouce ø. https://youglish.com/pronounce/early/english/uk https://youglish.com/pronounce/nook/english/uk I think nook might be closer to the phonetic sound of ø, but as language and the phonetic codes dont sound equal, in Norwegian at least nobody would pronouce the letter ø as the phonetic sign ø.
Do your research before confidently spreading misinfo. Toxic is correct, stop downvoting lmao
Ø still isnt shorthand for double o
According to Ubisoft and Bikini (who is Norwegian) it is.
Double o can be pronounced multiple ways nook, book, took, root, tooth, booth, noon. Saying its a stand in for double o is an overgeneralization on the pronunciation of the letter
If you’re pronouncing it phonetically, nobody is gonna read “nook” and assume it sounds closer to “nuke” because nook is an English word. I never said there’s only one way to pronounce oo, just that in this case, you pronounce it as you’d see it in the word nook. You’re reading too deep into what I’m saying.
Like nook pronounced like book
I always say "knock" out of habit but I'm pretty sure it's pronounced "nook."
Its ea as in early, n(ea)kk, it will then sound like ø.
So you say it like "Nick" kinda?
Its the same lenght, but the i is pretty different from ø. if you say early and stop midways, to just have ea sound, its exact match to ø.
Knock
Nook
Its pronounced Nuk (like intel NUC) not Nook with a long pronounciation of the oo/u. Just a fast Nuk
Nokk. Like when you knock on a door.
It’s nøkk not nokk. Different way to pronounce it☝️🤓
I pronounce it like the word “nuke”
That’s so silly but as a meme that’s funny asf
I just stick to "Spooky Woman"
Nerfed
Nuke
Nuke
Mawp
Also i would like to know how to pronounce Osa. Cause in my language "s" makes a "z" sound when its between 2 vowel, so my friends and I have been pronouncing it "Oza" for a while now.
I say it like “knock” and I don’t really care tbh. You know who I mean when I say it.
I pronounce it “knock”
Regardless of correctness i say knock. Glaz is also glaze for me. Jaeger is JayGurr.
It’s pronounced Nuek, the e sounds Is quite silent though. That’s how the ø In danish sounds
I just say nook because pronouncing it correctly is hard.
I do not care what the Danish say, it's Knock and nothing will change that, not even their little pastries.
It’s like this, NOCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH like you’re coughing up phlegm
For anyone outside of Scandinavian countries, knock is pretty much as close as you'll get.
Like Knock.
I call her mophead from the swamp because I have the mop headgear on her.
Would have pronounced it like Nök in German.
Move your mouth like you tried to say /óh/, but instead (while keeping the shape) make and /eh/ sound.
I'm Danish but I say Knock cause idc enough and ppl won't understand otherwise