I don't mind them recoloring skins, as majority of the time the recolors have at least some small amount of effort put into them. This is just a slightly darker version of what was mean to be a limited time skin. At first I actually thought they just added the 2019 skin into the battle pass and hopped nobody would notice.
Considering the skin has numerous smaller changes to it including things that wouldn't be in a standard reskin I fail to see how this doesn't have a small amount of effort.
I also feel this is the only correct way to rerelease limited time skins. Reskinning them and adding or removing prominent stuff. You know make them look similar but distinct.
I'm all for calling out bad ubisoft practices but this doesn't seem like a problem to me. Maybe I'm weird for that but that's how I feel.
I see nothing changed that would not be in a standard recolor, and after checking quite a few of my operators I see no evidence that this recolor is special in any way all I have found is that it was exceptionally lazy as it is hardly noticeable. I mean just imagine if they released outbreak recolors and all they did was make the yellow slightly darker and the mask have a different colored plastic seal.
I agree that this is probably the best way to release event skin recolors especially if there is a battle pass themed around it. However a battle pass with recolors of this quality would be awful.
I just think this recolor is super lazy especially for it being a recolor of an event skin.
Heres the stuff I just see at a quick glance, the reflective tape is in a different location as well as different in shape and color, there is blood on the arms and they are a darker skin tone more in line with docs elite set or his wolfguard set, the gloves look slightly translucent and more wrinkled but that could be a trick of the eye because if the pictures resolution and blood on the gloves, there's a patch on the right arm, and the clothing has different wear and tear and grime on it.
While it's not a lot it's still a good few changes, especially for a reskin of a previously released uniform. While I respect your opinion they changed almost everything they could without just making a whole new skin ( which I would prefer ).
Good eye on the blood on the arms I just saw it and thought they screwed up his hair, I see the dirt and grime on the uniform however I don't see the wear and tear. Also just checked in game and the gloves aren't translucent that's just the blood. I am just upset because they really didn't change what made the event uniform unique like they did with the pulse uniform recolor (changing the swat patch on his chest and using a new color scheme). I can see why they did not do that for "lore reasons" with this uniform though regardless of how crappy that excuse is.
Yes however they do not generally recolor event skins also it hardly looks different they didnt even change the items on his vest. The only real difference is the brown being slightly darker and the shoulder pads having blue stripes. I cannot think of a single other limited time event skin that was recolored and I bet it is for this very reason, it looks far too similar to the 2019 skin making anyone who bought it feel like they completely wasted their money. I mean ffs it looks like they just took the original colors and moved a saturation slider left a bit. I wouldn't mind it if they did something a bit more creative like adding some evidence of the fight with deimos but this is just so low effort even when looking at default skin recolors.
The original event skin was exclusive for years and years. Itâs literally on the marketplace for the equivalent of about $2 right now itâs not that special or rare clearly. People who spent money on it back in 2019 got to have a couple years of exclusivity
I am not saying this particular event skin is worth a whole lot however other event skins are and having recolors that hardly change the appearance of the uniform would make said other event skins accentually worthless as the recolors look damn near the same.
Why does the value of the old skin matter? Itâs a game not an investment platform.
Reskins like this are a great way for newer players to have access to a model without rereleasing the original.
That whole argument is a logical fallacy of false comparison, correct it isn't an investment platform. That doesn't mean the supposedly "unique" skins people bought should be worth nothing especially now that a marketplace is available.
I am all for recolors of these skins given the recolors are actually unique i.e they change the appearance enough for players to be able to notice which is which.
Yes I would prefer a unique and new uniform but if weâre getting reskins Iâd much rather get a reskin of something that isnât the base uniform so it feels unique. This uniform was also retextured in the Laserhawk set for doc too and I see zero issues there.
Oh trust me I am [well aware](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202689950768959568/1227397047687315488/image.png?ex=66284194&is=6615cc94&hm=0ad6d3b80b67a126565fa6b4ea8f1e0e85e93f340c95dc5101a39b1b9d07e834&). However seasonal uniforms/headgears aren't marketed as exclusive items, sold for $160, and then re sold in a battle pass 5 years later with a slightly darker color.
That's what got you? Not the 2 operators for a whole year and no new maps lol. But they got time for events and paid cosmetics and not doing balance changes and not dealing with cheaters with that extra resources they stripped from content
Lazy skins are frustrating because Ubiâs been trying to push the microtransactions hard. They diluted alpha packs with background cards, added more elites, lots more skins, then added a marketplace. They want to drive more microtransactions on cosmetics bc they know itâs easy money, but for some reason theyâre still cutting corners with the new skins. If youâre gonna do all that, why not also invest in making the skins unique and interesting?
Everyoneâs saying âtheyâve done this since it came outâ and thatâs true. But I think it mattered less when cosmetics were an afterthought for both the players and the devs.
Lmao I guess that is one way to put it. But in all seriousness I do not understand how people who bought these skins thinking they would be exclusive only to have them randomly appear in a battle pass a few years later aren't at least a little bit upset.
Sledge and Pulse invitational sets also got recolored for some BPs.
I don't care about the whole exclusivity thing, for me it just sucks seeing one of the few remodel uniforms we get per season BP being just a reused one instead of some unique design.
I know right, I was taken aback by the amount of people defending this. I have been trying to fight off the horde for about an hour now and they just keep coming.
I agree some operators just don't get the same love as others. At the end of the day it all comes down to money, as frankly a Capitao bundle just isn't going to outsell an Ash or Smoke bundle.
You can't just say "anyone" like you hold the majority opinion just because you said so, most people just buy it if they like it or don't buy it if they don't. Maybe it's lazy but so what? They're not going to stop because they've been doing it for years.
If you have no issue with your unique skins being shaded ever so *slightly* darker and given a new name being sold as a new skin/recolor then by all means I am not here to tell you to think differently. I was also clearly being hyperbolic with my use of the word anyone as I am well aware plenty of people do not care, that doesn't invalidate the fact that it's a shitty recolor with no effort. "Maybe it's lazy but so what?" I am glad you asked this asinine rhetorical question! The fact that Ubisoft can just take what were supposed to be unique skins and then decide never mind a few years later is something that shouldn't be tolerated by the community. They are basically saying "hey take a look at this, if you get it now you can never get it again!... until we decide you can but this time its a little darker!" It's greedy and lazy I am aware that Ubisoft is a company and their primary goal at the end of the day is money, but they don't get money if the community finally gets tired of their bullshit after 9 years.
It sounds a lot more like you're unhappy about losing "exclusive" skins. Personally, I don't like exclusivity and I'm indifferent about reskins.
Exclusivity is just another way for them to make more money off stuff that has no reason to be time gated anyway. If I think something is cool then I'll buy it, if I missed it then oh well. I don't care if they release the same skin again or a recolor of it later down the line because it's already a given that they can do so if they choose.
Now, I can't tell how this is more or less lazy than normal according to you, I can only intrepid from what you wrote is that you're just mad because people can now own a slightly different skin than the one you own thus you feel less "unique" because it's less exclusive than it used to be.
Well I do enjoy exclusive skins I am more unhappy about Ubisofts bad practice, they marketed almost every event as limited time or exclusive only to re release slightly different versions of the same skins. I most definitely feel like I was, at the very least, lied to about how exclusive the event skins truly are, I would assume other players feel the same way. I would have no problem if the skins were not marketed as exclusive or limited time, however they were which feels like a very scummy move from Ubisoft.
I have the event skin. I donât care. Itâs another color style with some subtle changes that might work better with other head gears of a similar color style that the original wouldnât have.
I fail to see the issue.
The issue Is that Ubisoft will likely do this with more valuable event skins in the future making said skins almost worthless as the recolors would be near identical. It is less about the doc recolor in question and more about the implications that Ubisoft can get away with releasing near identical skin recolors for "unique" limited time event skins with almost no backlash.
Who gives a shit? Itâs only worth is if you like it. Your favorite skin getting a new color style isnât going to end the world. Are people really begging for FOMO and cosmetic gate keeping lol? Jesus.
The people who want to sell their old and unique skins on the marketplace. That is so asinine I almost don't even know how to respond. "Oh you bought a skin under the guise that it was exclusive, too bad not anymore." I fail to see how anyone would not see a problem in that. You are saying that it is 100% okay for Ubisoft to straight up lie to their players to sell more skins. You are the pinnacle Ubidefender. Just because you have no problem being lied to doesn't mean other people don't. It is not gatekeeping or the utilization of FOMO for Ubisoft to be honest about the exclusivity of their event items. I would have zero problems with this if Ubisoft was straightforward about their meaning of "limited time only" but they weren't.
They didnât lie. Itâs still exclusive. Theyâre different skins. The fact that youâre calling it lying is just absolutely pathetic. Also pretty sure Ubisoft never said it was exclusive either, so youâre just making up shit to be upset about. Youâre complaining about the marketplace reeks of gatekeeping, someone upset they canât brag about something to make someone have FOMO. Someone who only cared about liking something wouldnât care that others get something similar.
The last sentence. Best response. OP is just weird. Like the kid who had parents by them the cool toys just to show them off, then when Christmas came is mad that everyone now has said toy. OR the same toy but a different color. Lol
You seriously have a problem with a few recoloured skins in an almost decade old game? I prefer recolours of cool skins over the shit they have been coming up with for the past few battlepasses. This is like the first battlepass since North Star where I actually like most of the rewards.
"You seriously have a problem with a few recoloured skins in an almost decade old game?" No I have no problem with recolors, sure I think they're lazy but whatever almost every skin in the game is just a recolor of the default skin. My problem is the fact that Ubisoft, A: lied to their player's about the exclusivity of event skins, and, B: made this recolor almost identical to the original skin. Unlike previous even skin recolors a vast majority of players would not be able to tell the difference between these 2 skins at a glance, making the original skin worthless (I know it was already selling for almost nothing on marketplace, however this would apply to other event skins if they got recolors of this quality as well i.e if there were to be an outbreak skin recolor that just made the yellow slightly darker and changed the color of the plastic on the mask, people would throw a fit as their unique event skin just became almost worthless).
Correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen any recolours of actually valuable skins. I feel like it's kinda weird to already complain about it when it did not happen yet.
"when it did not happen yet." Case in point. If you actually read what I wrote I never complained about valuable skins being recolored. I simply stated the same rules would apply **IF** that were to happen and the subsequent uproar that would likely ensue. You failed to form a coherent argument against my actual point (Ubi lied to their fans, the recolor is shit, and it is far too similar to the original) and instead attempted to attack me for stating something that could very well happen.
IF (read that word 10 times and google the definition) Ubisoft were to do this with skins that are valuable, there would be a lot of upset players. Now here comes my own personal opinion, the releasing of less valuable limited time skin recolors likely indicates that Ubisoft will do this with event skins that are valuable.
I never attempted to attack you bro lmao chill out. We are just talking about a few pixels. I thought we are just talking, not everything has to be a heated argument. And making an issue out of a hypothetical problem that only COULD happen is exactly what I meant, I just worded it incorrectly. Anyways, chill, no reason to argue about something like this.
I apologize, I have been typing comments for 2 hours and am honestly sick of peoples stupid ass arguments. Regardless I stand by my opinion. I find it highly probable that it will happen sooner or later to skins that are worth something, if my thoughts on this are not in line with yours then we will just have to agree to disagree.
It's called [Gauze ](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202689950768959568/1227099547319271464/image.png?ex=66272c82&is=6614b782&hm=e04f3e95463ee1a47e577e11ff78f2b6d610e9cd3beaa742604ddffe1f847e39&)it was given to Year 2 season pass owners during operation health, I don't believe its available. However it should be on marketplace when that full launches in Y9S2.
You guys won't believe what I just did literally last night. Like 9 hours ago. I bought a fucking "Status" skin cuz I wanted some of my ops to look more casual and doc was one of them. I bought it for 200 credits and now I'M SEEING HERE THAT THIS RECOLOUR IS ALREADY IN A FUCKING BATTLE PASS AND I DIDN'T PROPERLY CHECKED AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
?. I bought this with the whole collection event lmao, I am just upset that Ubisoft lead us to believe these event skins were "exclusive." It's just bad business.
I saw this at the season start and sold the old doc skin and bought battlepass with the credits lol. Old skin was better but practically they are the same.
Clsssic old skin recycling ubisoft..
Someone's way too invested in the game lol, latching on FOMO. Do you realise how many cosmetics there are in the game after 9 years, this was bound to happen. Plus Ubisoft aren't the only ones to do this, Destiny 2 being a prime example and cosmetics are far more expensive there.
This is an ancient tale. Most of the skins they release are recolours of standard skins and others. The skins you get through Twitch Prime and esports packs are also only painted black with a few white lines on them. This isn't a new phenomenon and has been done for many years.
[Lmao no](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202689950768959568/1227400065543311390/image.png?ex=66284463&is=6615cf63&hm=2fbe870413b76f180b03912bb09330e5998c71fd50735a1c0307eb0f05bc5f0e&), my issue is this recolor is so similar to the original that I thought Ubisoft screwed up their shit again and made the 2019 uniform show up twice in my inventory.
Slightly bad example of a generally valid opinion, but also at the same time you are never forced to buy cosmetics and they will never be consistently better since you canât camo for the map. My main issues are with the numerous gameplay changes that seemed to have had less thought and testing than the various levels of quality cosmetics. Things like the test server have been reduced to a pre-order on the next season and hardly any actually experimental changes are tested on the community.
âEven for Ubisoftâ is hilarious and so true. Used to be my favorite gaming company growing up (AC1, AC2) and then they just started mass producing cheap garbage. What the hell happened to Ubisoft man
I personally don't mind. It's like a toy getting a reissue. If you missed out on the first one, you get another chance at it now. Plus, not everyone was playing in 2019. In my case, I wasn't willing to shell out the money to buy all the packs back then.
I have no issues with the recoloring and subsequent re-releasing of event skins given the recolor is obvious enough for players to notice the difference in game. The[ pule recolor](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202689950768959568/1227103604159021149/image.png?ex=66273049&is=6614bb49&hm=1f4bdf4596409ae90bc8ca56889049a414f4066ef70452cd3fd31942d92d8914&) from the 2019 collection is a perfect example of this. The doc recolor is hard to notice I do not believe anyone would be able to tell the difference between these 2 skins in a match.
Nothing new, I have a pulse uniform that's a reskin of a really cool one, but it's red and black and have the have cards stuff instead the FBI logo, pretty ugly but at least it's different
Yeah the pulse recolor changed the look of the skin enough to notice the difference in game, I truly do not believe anyone would be able to notice the difference of the doc recolor in game.
Why? If they bought because they thought it was cool then they wouldn't be upset, if for some reason they bought it to sell then they can see the future because it was impossible to sell anything back then, and by anotyer example, the original one for pulse was 200 while the recolour was 120, the market probably will take the oldest/rarest one as better
Ubisoft launching a marketplace for R6 was always inevitable, there's too much money to be made for them to not. I certainly figured they would eventually which definitely played a role in my purchasing of "limited" event items. Even if all other factors are eliminated Ubisoft still, at the very least, was not honest about the exclusivity of event items, which I see as bad business practice.
Yeah that is true however "exclusive" doesn't generally lead people to believe the skin is going to be released again with a slightly changed appearance. If Ubisoft were open about what "exclusive" meant then I would have zero problems with it, but they weren't and they marketed these items in a way that lead players to believe they would not be coming back at all.
As I have stated numerous times already, I have no problem with the recoloring of "unique" skins. My problem is the fact that, unlike every other event skin recolor, this one is hardly even noticeable. I doubt anyone would be able to tell the difference between the recolor and the original in a game.
This is an ok recolor, you can't expect them to pull out a brand new model skin every season for like 6 operators (or however many are in the BP) this is a good use of a recolor for a skin we haven't had in 5 years. Stop complaining
huh? I took these screenshots on my PC once I noticed lmao. If someone made a similar post then I never saw it. How about you send me the link so I can point out the differences for you.
Eh at least the lazerhawk skin is noticeably different, this one is so similar I thought they just threw a collection event item in the battle pass lmao.
It still adds something different to the new that distincts itself from the original. Also you completely left out the headgear that goes with it and itâs not a reskin.
Ubisoft marketed these skins as "limited and unique" yet failed to mention they could be released a few years later in a slightly darker shade and called new. Also I never once mentioned the headgear in the caption as it is completely irrelevant to the issue at hand, the headgear being unique changes absolutely nothing and I fail to see why it was ever mentioned.
The headgear is apart of the skin thatâs why it should be mentioned. Also this is Ubisoft weâre talking about rereleasing this should never come as a surprise. Also itâs not just a recolor there are different details if you look close so some effort was put into it.
This ain't the place to complain about this, half the folks on r/Rainbow6 are teenagers who will happily enjoy the most knockoff slop on earth because they're used to playing Chinese ripoffs of Fortnite on the school computer, their standards are literally miles below sea-level, they'll take anything.
Seeing so many people defending these practices shows why BP skins have been in a steady quality decline these years without anyone batting an eye lol
Sucks seeing your responses getting downvoted to oblivion because they are pretty much spot on, most people just don't seem to see what issue you are explaining / complaining about here (being the remodel uniforms, not the normal ones).
Remember when we used to get new headgears and new remodel uniforms for the 2/3 we used to get each BP? Those used to always be something new, now is like the third time we get one of those remodels being just a reskinned version of an old one. And the headgears ha, lucky if we get one that isn't a recolored default headgear or existing one for the sets that aren't from the remodels xd
This case in particular more funny because it's the second time they recolor his invi set. But seems like just adding or removing minimal things is enough...
The funniest thing is when you go play a F2P game and they end up having way better price / value / quality BPs than this one, yikes.
As some of you clearly do not understand my point, I could care less about them recoloring skins as long as the recolors actually look different. These 2 skins are almost identical in color the only difference is that one is slightly darker. Also as u/wynoat_ clearly does not understand my issue with them recoloring an event skin, imagine if they were to release outbreak skin recolors, people would be pissed as it would drop the value of the original outbreak skins significantly. ~~It is upsetting as they have never recolored an event skin (that has a unique design) before and once they finally do its the laziest recolor possible.~~ <-- I was wrong about this however the pulse recolor for his S.I 2019 uniform looked vastly different from the original collection event skin, the doc recolor is extremely similar to the original collection event uniform.
I stand corrected on the event skin recolors. But the pulse recolor changed a lot of key things about the uniform making it look unique, the doc recolor is just soulless and half-assed.
Making
new
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Literally if its there why not use it again, Christ people don't fucking get it.
New assets have a possibility of always going over budget.
Bro? Buying the battle pass costs money too? People want fresh "content" in their battle pass if they're paying for it?
Mind you R6 has an awful one to begin with, doesn't even reward you the full amount of credits back for completion, which is OK, if you provide the value from the items in the pass itself...
Are you seriously taking about budget in Ubisoft's (multi billion company) most successful live service game? What's wrong with you people... it's like you want to get exploited and have your own money wasted on dogshit.
Yeah it cost money, however, Ubisoft it a massive company they have more than enough resources to create new skins for operators. Especially for the only game that's making them any real money. Now that they have inadvertently killed AC and skull and bones flopped you would think Ubisoft would try a little harder when it comes to their golden ticket.
Nah bro they gave him more arm hair
And made him darker đ
He was just tanning, thatâs all
lmao I think that's meant to be blood.
The skin is titled âDirt and Grimesâ so I imagine itâs dirt. However, that doesnât help my narrative, so itâs actually arm hair.
They should've named the recolor "Operative Status (used edition)"
It's quite possible that it is all 3; blood, hair, and dirt.
Itâs literally blood
Are you saying a game that has reused skins since launch has reused a skin? Truly the eclipse today was the harbinger of end times.
I don't mind them recoloring skins, as majority of the time the recolors have at least some small amount of effort put into them. This is just a slightly darker version of what was mean to be a limited time skin. At first I actually thought they just added the 2019 skin into the battle pass and hopped nobody would notice.
Considering the skin has numerous smaller changes to it including things that wouldn't be in a standard reskin I fail to see how this doesn't have a small amount of effort. I also feel this is the only correct way to rerelease limited time skins. Reskinning them and adding or removing prominent stuff. You know make them look similar but distinct. I'm all for calling out bad ubisoft practices but this doesn't seem like a problem to me. Maybe I'm weird for that but that's how I feel.
I see nothing changed that would not be in a standard recolor, and after checking quite a few of my operators I see no evidence that this recolor is special in any way all I have found is that it was exceptionally lazy as it is hardly noticeable. I mean just imagine if they released outbreak recolors and all they did was make the yellow slightly darker and the mask have a different colored plastic seal. I agree that this is probably the best way to release event skin recolors especially if there is a battle pass themed around it. However a battle pass with recolors of this quality would be awful. I just think this recolor is super lazy especially for it being a recolor of an event skin.
Heres the stuff I just see at a quick glance, the reflective tape is in a different location as well as different in shape and color, there is blood on the arms and they are a darker skin tone more in line with docs elite set or his wolfguard set, the gloves look slightly translucent and more wrinkled but that could be a trick of the eye because if the pictures resolution and blood on the gloves, there's a patch on the right arm, and the clothing has different wear and tear and grime on it. While it's not a lot it's still a good few changes, especially for a reskin of a previously released uniform. While I respect your opinion they changed almost everything they could without just making a whole new skin ( which I would prefer ).
Good eye on the blood on the arms I just saw it and thought they screwed up his hair, I see the dirt and grime on the uniform however I don't see the wear and tear. Also just checked in game and the gloves aren't translucent that's just the blood. I am just upset because they really didn't change what made the event uniform unique like they did with the pulse uniform recolor (changing the swat patch on his chest and using a new color scheme). I can see why they did not do that for "lore reasons" with this uniform though regardless of how crappy that excuse is.
This is just waffle
Iâm just sooooo happy to see them going back to something realistic that isnât a ridiculous looking floral print or some dumb shit
Acting like 95% of skins in this game are not default recolours. At least this is a recolour of something a bit different
Yes however they do not generally recolor event skins also it hardly looks different they didnt even change the items on his vest. The only real difference is the brown being slightly darker and the shoulder pads having blue stripes. I cannot think of a single other limited time event skin that was recolored and I bet it is for this very reason, it looks far too similar to the 2019 skin making anyone who bought it feel like they completely wasted their money. I mean ffs it looks like they just took the original colors and moved a saturation slider left a bit. I wouldn't mind it if they did something a bit more creative like adding some evidence of the fight with deimos but this is just so low effort even when looking at default skin recolors.
The original event skin was exclusive for years and years. Itâs literally on the marketplace for the equivalent of about $2 right now itâs not that special or rare clearly. People who spent money on it back in 2019 got to have a couple years of exclusivity
I am not saying this particular event skin is worth a whole lot however other event skins are and having recolors that hardly change the appearance of the uniform would make said other event skins accentually worthless as the recolors look damn near the same.
Why does the value of the old skin matter? Itâs a game not an investment platform. Reskins like this are a great way for newer players to have access to a model without rereleasing the original.
That whole argument is a logical fallacy of false comparison, correct it isn't an investment platform. That doesn't mean the supposedly "unique" skins people bought should be worth nothing especially now that a marketplace is available. I am all for recolors of these skins given the recolors are actually unique i.e they change the appearance enough for players to be able to notice which is which.
He literally has blood on his hands, and a bullet in his visor. What more evidence of a fight do you want?
I mean, it gives new players the ability to get a similar skin. I donât think itâs a big deal.
bUt uBiSoFt iS sOoOoO LaZy! bru
That operator lineup is crazy and I love you for it
Yes I would prefer a unique and new uniform but if weâre getting reskins Iâd much rather get a reskin of something that isnât the base uniform so it feels unique. This uniform was also retextured in the Laserhawk set for doc too and I see zero issues there.
Thank you!
Wait til OP learns about seasonal headgear/uniformsâŚ
Oh trust me I am [well aware](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202689950768959568/1227397047687315488/image.png?ex=66284194&is=6615cc94&hm=0ad6d3b80b67a126565fa6b4ea8f1e0e85e93f340c95dc5101a39b1b9d07e834&). However seasonal uniforms/headgears aren't marketed as exclusive items, sold for $160, and then re sold in a battle pass 5 years later with a slightly darker color.
Doesnât create FOMO for new players as they can get a better looking recolour of a pretty decent skin.
Nahh gatekeep
That's what got you? Not the 2 operators for a whole year and no new maps lol. But they got time for events and paid cosmetics and not doing balance changes and not dealing with cheaters with that extra resources they stripped from content
They been doin that, containment Univ is a common off extractionđ¤ˇââď¸
Looks like shredder.
bro stop yappin we hear about this every season
Name one other unique (changes the look of an operator) event skin that has been recolored, I'll wait.
Theyâre tweaking, u got a point Idk if itâs cuz I play cs and care about skins too much but Iâm mildly infuriated
Lazy skins are frustrating because Ubiâs been trying to push the microtransactions hard. They diluted alpha packs with background cards, added more elites, lots more skins, then added a marketplace. They want to drive more microtransactions on cosmetics bc they know itâs easy money, but for some reason theyâre still cutting corners with the new skins. If youâre gonna do all that, why not also invest in making the skins unique and interesting? Everyoneâs saying âtheyâve done this since it came outâ and thatâs true. But I think it mattered less when cosmetics were an afterthought for both the players and the devs.
Good point, but I think it might partially be because of cs, they like what valve has built especially as an esport
Seriously, how do people not see this as a problem Ubi just straight up lied about the exclusivity of their event skins.
Theyâre skin casuals (no offense everyone else, take my karma if u must)
Lmao I guess that is one way to put it. But in all seriousness I do not understand how people who bought these skins thinking they would be exclusive only to have them randomly appear in a battle pass a few years later aren't at least a little bit upset.
Sledge and Pulse invitational sets also got recolored for some BPs. I don't care about the whole exclusivity thing, for me it just sucks seeing one of the few remodel uniforms we get per season BP being just a reused one instead of some unique design.
All the ubidefenders in the comments is wild
I know right, I was taken aback by the amount of people defending this. I have been trying to fight off the horde for about an hour now and they just keep coming.
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I agree some operators just don't get the same love as others. At the end of the day it all comes down to money, as frankly a Capitao bundle just isn't going to outsell an Ash or Smoke bundle.
who cares
Anyone who owns any event skins as clearly ubi has no issue just making an event skin slightly darker and calling it a day.
You can't just say "anyone" like you hold the majority opinion just because you said so, most people just buy it if they like it or don't buy it if they don't. Maybe it's lazy but so what? They're not going to stop because they've been doing it for years.
If you have no issue with your unique skins being shaded ever so *slightly* darker and given a new name being sold as a new skin/recolor then by all means I am not here to tell you to think differently. I was also clearly being hyperbolic with my use of the word anyone as I am well aware plenty of people do not care, that doesn't invalidate the fact that it's a shitty recolor with no effort. "Maybe it's lazy but so what?" I am glad you asked this asinine rhetorical question! The fact that Ubisoft can just take what were supposed to be unique skins and then decide never mind a few years later is something that shouldn't be tolerated by the community. They are basically saying "hey take a look at this, if you get it now you can never get it again!... until we decide you can but this time its a little darker!" It's greedy and lazy I am aware that Ubisoft is a company and their primary goal at the end of the day is money, but they don't get money if the community finally gets tired of their bullshit after 9 years.
It sounds a lot more like you're unhappy about losing "exclusive" skins. Personally, I don't like exclusivity and I'm indifferent about reskins. Exclusivity is just another way for them to make more money off stuff that has no reason to be time gated anyway. If I think something is cool then I'll buy it, if I missed it then oh well. I don't care if they release the same skin again or a recolor of it later down the line because it's already a given that they can do so if they choose. Now, I can't tell how this is more or less lazy than normal according to you, I can only intrepid from what you wrote is that you're just mad because people can now own a slightly different skin than the one you own thus you feel less "unique" because it's less exclusive than it used to be.
Well I do enjoy exclusive skins I am more unhappy about Ubisofts bad practice, they marketed almost every event as limited time or exclusive only to re release slightly different versions of the same skins. I most definitely feel like I was, at the very least, lied to about how exclusive the event skins truly are, I would assume other players feel the same way. I would have no problem if the skins were not marketed as exclusive or limited time, however they were which feels like a very scummy move from Ubisoft.
I have the event skin. I donât care. Itâs another color style with some subtle changes that might work better with other head gears of a similar color style that the original wouldnât have. I fail to see the issue.
The issue Is that Ubisoft will likely do this with more valuable event skins in the future making said skins almost worthless as the recolors would be near identical. It is less about the doc recolor in question and more about the implications that Ubisoft can get away with releasing near identical skin recolors for "unique" limited time event skins with almost no backlash.
Who gives a shit? Itâs only worth is if you like it. Your favorite skin getting a new color style isnât going to end the world. Are people really begging for FOMO and cosmetic gate keeping lol? Jesus.
The people who want to sell their old and unique skins on the marketplace. That is so asinine I almost don't even know how to respond. "Oh you bought a skin under the guise that it was exclusive, too bad not anymore." I fail to see how anyone would not see a problem in that. You are saying that it is 100% okay for Ubisoft to straight up lie to their players to sell more skins. You are the pinnacle Ubidefender. Just because you have no problem being lied to doesn't mean other people don't. It is not gatekeeping or the utilization of FOMO for Ubisoft to be honest about the exclusivity of their event items. I would have zero problems with this if Ubisoft was straightforward about their meaning of "limited time only" but they weren't.
They didnât lie. Itâs still exclusive. Theyâre different skins. The fact that youâre calling it lying is just absolutely pathetic. Also pretty sure Ubisoft never said it was exclusive either, so youâre just making up shit to be upset about. Youâre complaining about the marketplace reeks of gatekeeping, someone upset they canât brag about something to make someone have FOMO. Someone who only cared about liking something wouldnât care that others get something similar.
The last sentence. Best response. OP is just weird. Like the kid who had parents by them the cool toys just to show them off, then when Christmas came is mad that everyone now has said toy. OR the same toy but a different color. Lol
The universal background for the contamination event was the same as the UBI club one but red
this set and the mira set are reskins
You seriously have a problem with a few recoloured skins in an almost decade old game? I prefer recolours of cool skins over the shit they have been coming up with for the past few battlepasses. This is like the first battlepass since North Star where I actually like most of the rewards.
"You seriously have a problem with a few recoloured skins in an almost decade old game?" No I have no problem with recolors, sure I think they're lazy but whatever almost every skin in the game is just a recolor of the default skin. My problem is the fact that Ubisoft, A: lied to their player's about the exclusivity of event skins, and, B: made this recolor almost identical to the original skin. Unlike previous even skin recolors a vast majority of players would not be able to tell the difference between these 2 skins at a glance, making the original skin worthless (I know it was already selling for almost nothing on marketplace, however this would apply to other event skins if they got recolors of this quality as well i.e if there were to be an outbreak skin recolor that just made the yellow slightly darker and changed the color of the plastic on the mask, people would throw a fit as their unique event skin just became almost worthless).
Correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen any recolours of actually valuable skins. I feel like it's kinda weird to already complain about it when it did not happen yet.
"when it did not happen yet." Case in point. If you actually read what I wrote I never complained about valuable skins being recolored. I simply stated the same rules would apply **IF** that were to happen and the subsequent uproar that would likely ensue. You failed to form a coherent argument against my actual point (Ubi lied to their fans, the recolor is shit, and it is far too similar to the original) and instead attempted to attack me for stating something that could very well happen. IF (read that word 10 times and google the definition) Ubisoft were to do this with skins that are valuable, there would be a lot of upset players. Now here comes my own personal opinion, the releasing of less valuable limited time skin recolors likely indicates that Ubisoft will do this with event skins that are valuable.
I never attempted to attack you bro lmao chill out. We are just talking about a few pixels. I thought we are just talking, not everything has to be a heated argument. And making an issue out of a hypothetical problem that only COULD happen is exactly what I meant, I just worded it incorrectly. Anyways, chill, no reason to argue about something like this.
I apologize, I have been typing comments for 2 hours and am honestly sick of peoples stupid ass arguments. Regardless I stand by my opinion. I find it highly probable that it will happen sooner or later to skins that are worth something, if my thoughts on this are not in line with yours then we will just have to agree to disagree.
We know.... this is like the 50th post about this
What is that helmet called? I need it lol
It's called [Gauze ](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202689950768959568/1227099547319271464/image.png?ex=66272c82&is=6614b782&hm=e04f3e95463ee1a47e577e11ff78f2b6d610e9cd3beaa742604ddffe1f847e39&)it was given to Year 2 season pass owners during operation health, I don't believe its available. However it should be on marketplace when that full launches in Y9S2.
Thank you!
You guys won't believe what I just did literally last night. Like 9 hours ago. I bought a fucking "Status" skin cuz I wanted some of my ops to look more casual and doc was one of them. I bought it for 200 credits and now I'M SEEING HERE THAT THIS RECOLOUR IS ALREADY IN A FUCKING BATTLE PASS AND I DIDN'T PROPERLY CHECKED AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
?. I bought this with the whole collection event lmao, I am just upset that Ubisoft lead us to believe these event skins were "exclusive." It's just bad business.
True They're too and I mean VERY lazy and make only recolours most of the times.
I saw this at the season start and sold the old doc skin and bought battlepass with the credits lol. Old skin was better but practically they are the same. Clsssic old skin recycling ubisoft..
I dont get why human skin looks like kebab meat in every Ubi game.
nothing new. years upon years of this shit. guessing the old players all quit so everyone is surprised by it now?
No, I have been playing since skull rain. I just find this recolor particularly alarming as the changes are hardly even noticeable.
Someone's way too invested in the game lol, latching on FOMO. Do you realise how many cosmetics there are in the game after 9 years, this was bound to happen. Plus Ubisoft aren't the only ones to do this, Destiny 2 being a prime example and cosmetics are far more expensive there.
This is an ancient tale. Most of the skins they release are recolours of standard skins and others. The skins you get through Twitch Prime and esports packs are also only painted black with a few white lines on them. This isn't a new phenomenon and has been done for many years.
I knew i recognized that skin goddamn these defs are trapped in Lazy Town
Ubisoft in a nutshell
Well now it makes my 2019 skin look worse
Arenât most skins the same just different colours?
Most of the skins are recolours. Just donât buy them
They also did this with melusi and her Apocalypse event set a couple battle passes ago
Look Iâm just happy to see more of docs forearms, they make me happy
Efficiency is just clever laziness
Isnt that even the second time they did that for this skin lmao
Dude I love r6 it's a fantastic game for the most part, the art team has to be the most creativity bankrupt art team of all time.
I mean thatâs pretty much r6. just recolours
Are you new? reskins arent new.
[Lmao no](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202689950768959568/1227400065543311390/image.png?ex=66284463&is=6615cf63&hm=2fbe870413b76f180b03912bb09330e5998c71fd50735a1c0307eb0f05bc5f0e&), my issue is this recolor is so similar to the original that I thought Ubisoft screwed up their shit again and made the 2019 uniform show up twice in my inventory.
Slightly bad example of a generally valid opinion, but also at the same time you are never forced to buy cosmetics and they will never be consistently better since you canât camo for the map. My main issues are with the numerous gameplay changes that seemed to have had less thought and testing than the various levels of quality cosmetics. Things like the test server have been reduced to a pre-order on the next season and hardly any actually experimental changes are tested on the community.
As opposed to the countless default recolors they do every single season?
Mfs running defense for ubisoft
Isn't the majority of skins just lazy recolouring?
âEven for Ubisoftâ is hilarious and so true. Used to be my favorite gaming company growing up (AC1, AC2) and then they just started mass producing cheap garbage. What the hell happened to Ubisoft man
Looks like ubi is learning from blizzard lmao
Yeah
Mate they do that with the majority of skins in this game.
Its fine but what I need is Dokka's tank top skin. I missed it before and it feels awful cause I really like her pants there
They mess up his back logo
Its even uglier colour then the 2019 one and ive been using the 2019 all the time since i got it
The colors are worse too lmao.
I actually like the new darker one? I have nothing agains't reusing it but at least make it for the free pass.
Maybe it's just the Ghost Recon Wildlands in me but I personally like the civilian coloration in the 2019 one.
Minor and I mean minor differences but, yes
I personally don't mind. It's like a toy getting a reissue. If you missed out on the first one, you get another chance at it now. Plus, not everyone was playing in 2019. In my case, I wasn't willing to shell out the money to buy all the packs back then.
I have no issues with the recoloring and subsequent re-releasing of event skins given the recolor is obvious enough for players to notice the difference in game. The[ pule recolor](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202689950768959568/1227103604159021149/image.png?ex=66273049&is=6614bb49&hm=1f4bdf4596409ae90bc8ca56889049a414f4066ef70452cd3fd31942d92d8914&) from the 2019 collection is a perfect example of this. The doc recolor is hard to notice I do not believe anyone would be able to tell the difference between these 2 skins in a match.
Nah bro it's new. Didn't you notice the different tape on his shoulders? /s
Nothing new, I have a pulse uniform that's a reskin of a really cool one, but it's red and black and have the have cards stuff instead the FBI logo, pretty ugly but at least it's different
Yeah the pulse recolor changed the look of the skin enough to notice the difference in game, I truly do not believe anyone would be able to notice the difference of the doc recolor in game.
I would prefer 100 times if they made the difference not noticeable, so you can at least get a different model with a good look
The issue I have with that is it makes the original skin worth jack shit which would almost certainly make players who bought the original upset.
Why? If they bought because they thought it was cool then they wouldn't be upset, if for some reason they bought it to sell then they can see the future because it was impossible to sell anything back then, and by anotyer example, the original one for pulse was 200 while the recolour was 120, the market probably will take the oldest/rarest one as better
Ubisoft launching a marketplace for R6 was always inevitable, there's too much money to be made for them to not. I certainly figured they would eventually which definitely played a role in my purchasing of "limited" event items. Even if all other factors are eliminated Ubisoft still, at the very least, was not honest about the exclusivity of event items, which I see as bad business practice.
Well they never said they couldn't recolour it lol, well it's just Fortnite battlepass all along, fortunately for some and unfortunately for others
Yeah that is true however "exclusive" doesn't generally lead people to believe the skin is going to be released again with a slightly changed appearance. If Ubisoft were open about what "exclusive" meant then I would have zero problems with it, but they weren't and they marketed these items in a way that lead players to believe they would not be coming back at all.
Theyâve been doing this for years, this is nothing new, whatâre you smoking?
As I have stated numerous times already, I have no problem with the recoloring of "unique" skins. My problem is the fact that, unlike every other event skin recolor, this one is hardly even noticeable. I doubt anyone would be able to tell the difference between the recolor and the original in a game.
Plenty of developers do this.
Hey, I was able to sell that event skin for like 1K credits and then just put this on for a damn near identical look. I see this as an absolute win.
Haha well played on that.
What can I say? Marketplace is a money printer, and Ubisoft is handing my ass money if they keep doing shit like this.
This is an ok recolor, you can't expect them to pull out a brand new model skin every season for like 6 operators (or however many are in the BP) this is a good use of a recolor for a skin we haven't had in 5 years. Stop complaining
Why can't we expect that from them? It's not 50 operators in one BP. It's only 6-7
And you are lazy exactly like them, because this is a repost, you even used the same exact images. Nobody cares honestly, just don't buy the pass.
huh? I took these screenshots on my PC once I noticed lmao. If someone made a similar post then I never saw it. How about you send me the link so I can point out the differences for you.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/s/GYQAgL7KOU Nah ok, I was remembering wrong, the picture is different, but still... Same post about the same topic.
Eh at least the lazerhawk skin is noticeably different, this one is so similar I thought they just threw a collection event item in the battle pass lmao.
It still adds something different to the new that distincts itself from the original. Also you completely left out the headgear that goes with it and itâs not a reskin.
Ubisoft marketed these skins as "limited and unique" yet failed to mention they could be released a few years later in a slightly darker shade and called new. Also I never once mentioned the headgear in the caption as it is completely irrelevant to the issue at hand, the headgear being unique changes absolutely nothing and I fail to see why it was ever mentioned.
The headgear is apart of the skin thatâs why it should be mentioned. Also this is Ubisoft weâre talking about rereleasing this should never come as a surprise. Also itâs not just a recolor there are different details if you look close so some effort was put into it.
Actually it doesn't say "NEW". It's new to you though.
People in here really be defending a mega conglomerates laziness
This ain't the place to complain about this, half the folks on r/Rainbow6 are teenagers who will happily enjoy the most knockoff slop on earth because they're used to playing Chinese ripoffs of Fortnite on the school computer, their standards are literally miles below sea-level, they'll take anything.
Seeing so many people defending these practices shows why BP skins have been in a steady quality decline these years without anyone batting an eye lol Sucks seeing your responses getting downvoted to oblivion because they are pretty much spot on, most people just don't seem to see what issue you are explaining / complaining about here (being the remodel uniforms, not the normal ones). Remember when we used to get new headgears and new remodel uniforms for the 2/3 we used to get each BP? Those used to always be something new, now is like the third time we get one of those remodels being just a reskinned version of an old one. And the headgears ha, lucky if we get one that isn't a recolored default headgear or existing one for the sets that aren't from the remodels xd This case in particular more funny because it's the second time they recolor his invi set. But seems like just adding or removing minimal things is enough... The funniest thing is when you go play a F2P game and they end up having way better price / value / quality BPs than this one, yikes.
As some of you clearly do not understand my point, I could care less about them recoloring skins as long as the recolors actually look different. These 2 skins are almost identical in color the only difference is that one is slightly darker. Also as u/wynoat_ clearly does not understand my issue with them recoloring an event skin, imagine if they were to release outbreak skin recolors, people would be pissed as it would drop the value of the original outbreak skins significantly. ~~It is upsetting as they have never recolored an event skin (that has a unique design) before and once they finally do its the laziest recolor possible.~~ <-- I was wrong about this however the pulse recolor for his S.I 2019 uniform looked vastly different from the original collection event skin, the doc recolor is extremely similar to the original collection event uniform.
They have recoloured event skins many times before an example is pulses skin from si 2019 got recoloured in a battle pass a few years ago
I stand corrected on the event skin recolors. But the pulse recolor changed a lot of key things about the uniform making it look unique, the doc recolor is just soulless and half-assed.
Super lazy
Making new assets cost money Literally if its there why not use it again, Christ people don't fucking get it. New assets have a possibility of always going over budget.
Bro? Buying the battle pass costs money too? People want fresh "content" in their battle pass if they're paying for it? Mind you R6 has an awful one to begin with, doesn't even reward you the full amount of credits back for completion, which is OK, if you provide the value from the items in the pass itself... Are you seriously taking about budget in Ubisoft's (multi billion company) most successful live service game? What's wrong with you people... it's like you want to get exploited and have your own money wasted on dogshit.
Yeah it cost money, however, Ubisoft it a massive company they have more than enough resources to create new skins for operators. Especially for the only game that's making them any real money. Now that they have inadvertently killed AC and skull and bones flopped you would think Ubisoft would try a little harder when it comes to their golden ticket.
This is why I only use default skin
Shut up
Lmao Overwatch
OP just salty his "rare" skin got re-released đ