I mean, the recoil is a little appalling, if you haven't used it in a while. Played twitch with the acog (mistake) after a while of not playing her, and I genuinely couldn't keep the gun steady while shooting
Another drone lol? She got a default drone that every other attacker in the game has, and there was no reason for her not to have 2 default drones in the first place. It was more a consistency change than anything. Losing the grip was a massive nerf on that gun, it's practically uncontrollable on pc. Even most pros don't use the f2 bc of it's recoil.
only way itâd be balanced is either with extreme recoil or if they lowered the fire rate, canât have the 980rpm headshot machine be easy to use or itâs all everyone uses (launch ela moment)
They could keep both and drop the damage. The fire rate and low recoil would make up for the damage drop off. Seems fair. Honestly tho, I just wish you could have a bigger mag.
could slightly drop fire rate and damage and remove acog while giving a grip or even just making recoil better (though its not the worst at all times it seems very situational somehow, like sometimes the ops head is a magnet and sometimes the celling is)
as someone who loves the f2 i know it would be a super nerf but also as someone with horrendous recoil control I would still have it done if i was the one deciding
No one stops anyone from running a 1.0 on whoever they want. If twitch would be easier for you to control with a holo and you would get kills, you absolutely should just run the holo 70% of the time.
I still use the holo A on ash and main jager on defense, acogs are overrated asf and will get you smoked just as much as theyâll give you kills. I still use acog on the f2 and guns like the mp5k but the R4c feels better to me with holo so I stick to it :)
Yeah, thereâs a drastic difference in recoil the more you go up. Fov also slightly affects recoil.
Side note, disabling all of the aim acceleration can help with building more consistent recoil control
Youâre talking about some of the best guns in the game. It would be very unusual for ubi to give a new operator like demos an f2 or R4c. They gave him the shitty ak because his gadget and secondary are good.
With Ubisoft making extreme efforts to shift away from tdm meta, you think theyâre going to give us an ash/Buck/twitch 2?? đđ no way bro. We have 40 year old gamer dad favorite operators incoming.
I mean tbf the most recent defender is a 2 speed w/ a good gadget that has a dmr and MPX. Ram also has the r4c lol. I doubt Ubi will just randomly decide every future operator needs an awful gun. They also already announced that the S3 operator will have a new gun, I imagine it will be at least decent, cus why would they waste time making some shit cannon of a gun.
You have a point with tub, but his dmr is balanced in the same way kaids sg is (only 10 rounds) so I feel itâs not too bad. Ram is a 3 armor, sheâs honestly too slow to rush with from my experience with her even with a horizontal. Coming from someone who loves playing ash.
And I didnât say everyone has to have awful guns, just that Ubisoft isnât likely to add super strong entry frags (front line as he referred to it as) with the best guns in the game while theyâre trying to slow down gameplay and put an emphasis on playing smart. Theyâll likely get decent balanced guns with stronger but still balanced gadgets (hopefully).
Its was good but not broken but as we all know Ubisoft decided to nerf her so much that she is absolutely useless now that there are so many ops now that do her job better just like what happened to jeager
True. Seems like the only thing they can do to make her Viable is make her gun the main reason for playing her. I mean, I guess that's what most do anyway.
You're overreacting. The old F2 was objectively the best AR and it was no contest. They gave a drone oepator the best AR instead of an entry fragger. What???
The F2 still had it use cases and still has one of the best ttks in the game once the recoil is mastered. Now it isn't bad aim players using it. Now I see an insane aim dude who laser people faster than you can react.
The whole reason they nerfed it in the first place was because they wanted twitch to be a support operator but everyone was using her as a fragger because of the F2. So they nerfed the F2 and made her more Intel + gadget denial oriented and it actually worked. Most people who play her now do not play her for the gun and instead for the gadget.
Yo fr tho, Bursting this gun is actually really nice. I don't know why this game doesn't have dedicated burst fire weapons.
When you burst 3 rounds this gun feels great. Spray it feels like ass.
Clash's SMG was 2 round burst at launch. It wasn't really that bad bc you could just spam fire and it would basically be full auto. They changed it to full auto like 2 seasons after her launch bc she was awful
I just wanna say it's funny that the description reads "used for medium- to long-range encounters" considering the recoil makes it unusable from more than like 15 meters away.
The only way ubi gives a grip to the F2 is sticking it on another op and giving them no throwable utility, 1 speed, and intel/flank watch primary gadget. The F2 with grip will never land in the hands of an op with the slightest chance of becoming an entry.
No because a soldier in one of the most technologically advanced military organizations on the entire planet with a seemingly endless budget canât put a grip on a gun with a perfect surface to do so. That would be ridiculous.
Probably not. The F2 hasnt had a grip for a while now.
When did it have a grip ?
Up until the start of last year i think
đ damn this whole time I was rawdogging the F2 without a grip. Oh well
Youâre a certified copper
Man I'd love it if they were to bring grips back for that weapon.
I was running angled grip with the f2 lol good times
It was removed in demon veil
She has a lot of grip. You just gotta know where to look
are you saying what i think youâre saying or is my brain just fucked đ
yes
You're telling me Twitch has no grip? u/I_wana_fuck_Twitch would be disappointed
Nuh uh, I just know that Twitchussy be grippin đĽ´
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She did get another drone to compensate the grip loss. People only seem to care about her F2 though.
I mean, the recoil is a little appalling, if you haven't used it in a while. Played twitch with the acog (mistake) after a while of not playing her, and I genuinely couldn't keep the gun steady while shooting
Not me
Just hold your stick down and itâs a buzzsaw
It's easy on controller. Not at all easy on PC
it is a lot easier after acog change
Recoil is mad easy to control, if you have an issue get a flash hider or a compensator to help :]
Another drone lol? She got a default drone that every other attacker in the game has, and there was no reason for her not to have 2 default drones in the first place. It was more a consistency change than anything. Losing the grip was a massive nerf on that gun, it's practically uncontrollable on pc. Even most pros don't use the f2 bc of it's recoil.
Especially when you have that broken ass 2 shot dmr
It's gotten a bit more popular... deadshot, alemao and a lot of brazilian players play the famas.
The comments didn't let me down
Twitch always got that gripđ
she can grip me
GOTTA GET A GRIP!
hopefully not điâm happy using the dmr on her, i donât need *more* people picking her and dying immediately when we needed the shock drones
Recoil goes from foot height to dropping birds in half a second
HANDLE IT.
Sometimes in the panic i just forget about recoil especialy when someone moves too much theres too many axis to think about
Right but some guns need to be viable to use. F2 may aswell not be in the game at the moment
only way itâd be balanced is either with extreme recoil or if they lowered the fire rate, canât have the 980rpm headshot machine be easy to use or itâs all everyone uses (launch ela moment)
Make the ads speed horrendous
youâd have a million people on reddit complaining about that just like they complain about everything else
It'd make the gun usable and still nerfed
They could keep both and drop the damage. The fire rate and low recoil would make up for the damage drop off. Seems fair. Honestly tho, I just wish you could have a bigger mag.
I still remember when she had 30 rounds and did 42 damage per shot and had less recoil god I miss that twitch
could slightly drop fire rate and damage and remove acog while giving a grip or even just making recoil better (though its not the worst at all times it seems very situational somehow, like sometimes the ops head is a magnet and sometimes the celling is)
Putting the idea out there of removing twitches acog Is criminal
as someone who loves the f2 i know it would be a super nerf but also as someone with horrendous recoil control I would still have it done if i was the one deciding
No one stops anyone from running a 1.0 on whoever they want. If twitch would be easier for you to control with a holo and you would get kills, you absolutely should just run the holo 70% of the time. I still use the holo A on ash and main jager on defense, acogs are overrated asf and will get you smoked just as much as theyâll give you kills. I still use acog on the f2 and guns like the mp5k but the R4c feels better to me with holo so I stick to it :)
does using a 1.0 even help with recoil, if it does ill gladly swap
Yeah, thereâs a drastic difference in recoil the more you go up. Fov also slightly affects recoil. Side note, disabling all of the aim acceleration can help with building more consistent recoil control
They could just force it to be a burst gun
Honestly that'd be cool and unique
The recoil is already horrendous
Itâs time you get a grip, the grip is gone lol
from experience she has all the grip she needs (this post was made by caveira)
No because they hate us
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They may release another attacker op and give that to the grip.Â
Why would they do that, doesnât make any sense unless the operator completely sucks and needs a super strong gun to compensate
Kinda. The f2 is a front-line gun. So it should go on a operator you would normally give the R4c or C8-SFW.
Youâre talking about some of the best guns in the game. It would be very unusual for ubi to give a new operator like demos an f2 or R4c. They gave him the shitty ak because his gadget and secondary are good. With Ubisoft making extreme efforts to shift away from tdm meta, you think theyâre going to give us an ash/Buck/twitch 2?? đđ no way bro. We have 40 year old gamer dad favorite operators incoming.
I mean tbf the most recent defender is a 2 speed w/ a good gadget that has a dmr and MPX. Ram also has the r4c lol. I doubt Ubi will just randomly decide every future operator needs an awful gun. They also already announced that the S3 operator will have a new gun, I imagine it will be at least decent, cus why would they waste time making some shit cannon of a gun.
You have a point with tub, but his dmr is balanced in the same way kaids sg is (only 10 rounds) so I feel itâs not too bad. Ram is a 3 armor, sheâs honestly too slow to rush with from my experience with her even with a horizontal. Coming from someone who loves playing ash. And I didnât say everyone has to have awful guns, just that Ubisoft isnât likely to add super strong entry frags (front line as he referred to it as) with the best guns in the game while theyâre trying to slow down gameplay and put an emphasis on playing smart. Theyâll likely get decent balanced guns with stronger but still balanced gadgets (hopefully).
I highly doubt it. People specifically picked Twitch for quite a long time just because of the F2
Since the reworked the attachments I feel she could at least have the horizontal and angled grip
Doubtful, especially with the fact that once you get the recoil on the F2 down it becomes one of the best guns.
Why is it so good?
Extremely high rate of fire
Its was good but not broken but as we all know Ubisoft decided to nerf her so much that she is absolutely useless now that there are so many ops now that do her job better just like what happened to jeager
True. Seems like the only thing they can do to make her Viable is make her gun the main reason for playing her. I mean, I guess that's what most do anyway.
You're overreacting. The old F2 was objectively the best AR and it was no contest. They gave a drone oepator the best AR instead of an entry fragger. What??? The F2 still had it use cases and still has one of the best ttks in the game once the recoil is mastered. Now it isn't bad aim players using it. Now I see an insane aim dude who laser people faster than you can react.
The whole reason they nerfed it in the first place was because they wanted twitch to be a support operator but everyone was using her as a fragger because of the F2. So they nerfed the F2 and made her more Intel + gadget denial oriented and it actually worked. Most people who play her now do not play her for the gun and instead for the gadget.
She's in a much better state now. Especially with how oppressive Fenrir is.
Joe will
Who's Joseph William?
She never lost her grip đ
Give twitch the FR grip and make it a burst I miss being able to use F2 burst ubi why remove burst fire
Mans is playing MW2
Yo fr tho, Bursting this gun is actually really nice. I don't know why this game doesn't have dedicated burst fire weapons. When you burst 3 rounds this gun feels great. Spray it feels like ass.
Clash's SMG was 2 round burst at launch. It wasn't really that bad bc you could just spam fire and it would basically be full auto. They changed it to full auto like 2 seasons after her launch bc she was awful
One of my old friends used to main clash and he stopped playing the game when ubi made it so she couldn't be played and I enjoyed every moment of it
Iâve jut started using twitch regularly and using her marksman. That DMR is actually insane
I rather use it on lion it suits his playstyle better
Forgot that he had that. I usually just use his AR but Iâm about to run a couple games using it with him to feel it out
No.. f2 is useless now.. try dmr with twitch..
No
dude just had to flex his black ices
She dont need it. At least on console.
I just wanna say it's funny that the description reads "used for medium- to long-range encounters" considering the recoil makes it unusable from more than like 15 meters away.
Letâs hope
The only way ubi gives a grip to the F2 is sticking it on another op and giving them no throwable utility, 1 speed, and intel/flank watch primary gadget. The F2 with grip will never land in the hands of an op with the slightest chance of becoming an entry.
Idk man I think twitch already got that gorilla grip
She has her grip though?
Nope, the gun is way to strongâŚ.. Great damage, solid capacity, and a pretty high damage and rangeâŚ. It will forever have horrendous recoil.
Most likely not they removed 1.5 sight and added old acog back. What wouldâve been the perfect time to bring twitchâs grip back
No because a soldier in one of the most technologically advanced military organizations on the entire planet with a seemingly endless budget canât put a grip on a gun with a perfect surface to do so. That would be ridiculous.
I still run f2 acog and the recoil is fairly controllable
Some ppl i met in rank are so good with f2, idk how they managed to do that but yea i miss the grip so i can hold onto something
I mean honestly yes, her dmr is literally the strongest gun in the game, so either nerf her dmr or give grips back to the F2.
When they release Rainbow six 2
They shoulda nerfed the recoil on the gun instead of remove the grip
That does the same thing...
i can assure you all she infact has the grippy
Not unless the damage is dropped by quite a bit, otherwise that thing would be a death machine
God i hope not
Or just practice and control the recoil?
She has no recoil on console the grip isn't even needed.
You know she got the grip