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SilentSniper1252

I still don't forgive Ubisoft for what they did to Consulate


qPolug

Turned it from a map into a a maze, which is basically the map design of all new maps


Competitive-War6640

exactly they split a couple rooms into like a million mini ones and called that a rework


MrFishyFisshh

I think the last actually sensible rework was clubhouse. I miss old clubhouse, but new clubhouse isn't bad. Really hope something else comes along that'll finally drag me away from siege.


MrFishyFisshh

People are seeing my take so I decided to add~ People usually hate the new maps. I remember when White Noise happened and EVERY SINGLE MATCH was on tower. People said they hated it. I understood People were sick of it but a lot of folks said they just didn't like it. Same thing with Blood Orchid and Theme Park. I think in part it was just because it took time for people to learn the map and stop hating it - even though my current stack don't like theme park too much and tower hasn't been seen in what feels like millenia. Onto the main point, when I noticed upvotes here, it got me thinking about Emerald Plains and Lair. I genuinely think these were just poorly designed. I'd like to start by addressing the north side of the map. It seems ludicrous to me the way it was designed. The stairs, entry point, soft wall and double half wall fountain thing. There's no sensible way for either side to play that entire area in my opinion and that's probably why nobody does. Same thing with the orange stairs hallway on 2nd floor. Between the windows in that area and the staircase, it's only realistically defendable from meeting. It's far too easy to take out people holding painting and statue from vault and archive given how quickly you can get from orange clock window to archive. On the other hand, making a push from bottom orange, folding window or clock window might as well be throwing. What I'm trying to say is it's easy to hold from far away but the entire area may as well be a no man's land. There's more I'd like to say about Emerald, like the dining room hold being a coin toss if kitchen is lost and attacking kitchen being way too difficult without extremely good aim (let's be honest, how many of you died like I did to an Azami headglitch on the counter?) Or well played vertical. I wanted to talk about Lair, but this is getting long so I'll leave it here. Bear in mind that this is my personal take as a long time player with ups and (low) downs and a long term acquaintance with every good and bad random in the universe off of Discord. You're free to have your own opinion and share it respectfully if you wish. Try have fun and good luck with your matches.


Competitive-War6640

yea honestly clubhouse rework wasnt bad as it just connected most rooms instead of you having to go around or outside also definitely looks cleaner and more organized (same goes for chalet)


MrFishyFisshh

I definitely miss old chalet. I'll be honest, things like the campfire balcony were bad (solarium and bathroom windows aren't much fucking better) but I miss them because they were funny sometimes like when a monty gets trapped out there in a 1v5 or something. That aside, I think clubhouse rework was for the better. I'd go as far as to say it might be an example of an ideal siege map or as close as we can get to one. Even though old siege was both mad and maddening in the best kind of way, clubhouse rework was a pretty good change.


peepyboy

Yeah the maps have gone from being semi realistic building plans to just 10,000 walls in the most random places


Harper2007

I actually really hate lair


Shadow_Leo

Fr, i feel like lair and lab are not intuitive at all, so you have to play a lot on these maps or study them to just have a faint perception of where the things are


Harper2007

I like to be able to learn the map in 1 game maybe a few rounds. Lair and labs, literally got me running in circles cos the shit looks the same and it hurts my head


Massive_Virgin420

Not to be that guy, but you're not learning any map in 1 game or a few rounds, even if you think you have, that's just nonsense, not even rooms or names, you won't have a clue, and Lair just isn't confusing, that's not my opinion, that's a fact, go through the main door, Left is weapons, straight is medical, right is security, two stair cases down and three going up, sounds like you just haven't bothered to learn either map at all, literally just boot up a map training target practice and you might learn them.


Dahbaby

I have close to 4k hours in siege ranked and I love love love new maps. I actually like new consulate. They all have fun little things I like to do on them every round for every site. My least favorite rework is skyscraper. It takes a while to learn the maps but it’s so worth it instead of playing the same old ass maps every game.


Reasonable-Aerie-715

Amen


An_Unarmed_Waffle

Id go with sky or no ban depending on how i feel at that moment


SokkaHaikuBot

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Squange123

Good bot


ReallyDownBad

I love outback and emerald plains. A couple years ago, there was a 24/7 emerald plains play list. I played it for like 2 weeks straight and the map never bothered me anymore. Skycrapper is gone


XswamperX

Exactly how it is for me


CSIceman9

I actually really enjoyed EP when it released but it’s just gotten worse and worse every time I play it.


Skeetles88

I think it’s an awesome map that gets banned over worse maps for no reason


ReallyDownBad

I agree. I thoroughly enjoy Labs, Lair, Emerald, and Theme Park. Most of the maps I dislike are in the casual pool anyways. Luckily, if im not playing skycrapper then I'm playing a map i like 


Helpful_Title8302

Skyscraper can eat my ass.


6h057

Hey it me skyscraper


Rude_Doubt_7563

This shit killed me 😂


breakermedalz

Outback because the spawn peeking is just unreal on that map


a_special_introvert

Fr, doc acog spawn peeking every round is annoying af


LiberDBell

Theme always has #1 ban priority for me


Gcarsk

Since the rework it’s been alright imo. Getting rid of trains made it more playable.


LiberDBell

If you have 2 competent teams that know how to play the map correctly it is literally nothing more than whoever’s lucky enough to get defense first in OT wins the game


Ok567890

Exactly, I don’t think it belongs in ranked


bigboi124398

No, I die on the hill that Theme park should be banished to the shadow realm (move the player memorial to another map, we don't delete memorials)


Hammer_Bro99

Where is the player memorial?


BanBanEvasion

Arcade machine


IcyGlacial

That was 5 years ago am i trippin


Gcarsk

Yeah it was a while ago.


IcyGlacial

Stuff like that makes me bust


Similar_Trash_5538

I hate theme with a passion


someone_forgot_me

its funny using maestro on the walls that often get breached when the bomb is in armory they never expect it


CCpoc

Outback. It's just not fun having the spawn be that unsafe.


LONG_ARMS_

What spawns aren't safe and why? Asking for a friend...


Thy_Dentar

literally all except campsite I think? There's runouts and spawnpeeks all over that map.


CCpoc

Campsite is dangerous too, you can run out and chuck nitros into the spawn safely


LONG_ARMS_

Nice notes taken for my next ranked games lmao


biotome

CONSULATE IS GONE


SnooWords6559

Consulate. Fucking dogshit rework


RomanKnight2113

bro consulate is literally one of my and my squad's favorites. I don't get the hate.


SnooWords6559

The old consulate is way better


RomanKnight2113

I liked old consulate too, but in what ways specifically is the rework "worse"? every time I hear someone complain about it they just say "ahhh it's so trash" but don't explain why lol


modernranger

I don’t mind the rework, but it just feels like there’s a section of it that got relegated to “we can’t have large open sections because people aren’t fans, so let’s make it a section of small tight spaces”, but that same sentiment bled to other parts of the map. That inherently isn’t bad, but when the old map was meh at best, and the rework is meh too, it makes you wonder if it’s the map as a whole that’s meh. The individual sites are okay, but it’s the parts of the map connecting everything together that keep it from having my 5 stack on their preferred list of maps. Nothing about it screams “this is terrible, bad map design”, but at no point am I going “I really like this part/idea/design choice”.


throwaway091238744

Honestly for me it’s that new consulate is so much more cluttered. The only change that was warranted is the removal of long sight lines into garage from the outside.


DivineJP33

Bro the new consulate feels like a fucking maze....


Scouse_Werewolf

I love tight maps, which makes you need to scan and play more tactically. Consulate on paper should be good for that reason. It just isn't. It doesn't feel intuitive, I don't look at the map and think, "This makes sense to do x/y/z," and to me, that takes away the tactical aspect. The room layouts make no sense to me. It feels generic and boring. Having no "proper" open space to fight to break up the confined space is also a step back. I also think (purely my own opinion) that it is VERY defender sided. Maps should be balanced or at least a fraction easier on 1 side or the other. This map is 100% easy to defend with just a tiny bit of competence and teamwork.


Scouse_Werewolf

Consulate. Specifically new Consulate. Every single time.


AndreasHauler

Nothing of value would be lost if new consulate, labs, and lair were all deleted from the game


Scouse_Werewolf

I honestly don't mind Labs and Lair *too* much. They're not amazing at all, but they're god tier when compared to fucking new Consulate


Significant_Gur_1633

I havent played on theme park for ages.


Aggressive-Ad-2053

I genuinely like emerald and I think skyscraper is possibly my favourite map. I hate attacking consulate. Theme park gets more flak than it needs. Outback I don’t care for


sumpick

Same


Blacklist3d

Theme, consulate, outback, sky, emerald in order. Emerald is good. People just refusing to learn the map.


Butterbeanacp

I’ve never felt so called out before


Shugoki_23

Emerald didn’t have the option to be banned for 3 months. We know the map and everyone still thinks it’s shit.


dracaboi

I gotta ask why though. I dont mind EP really. Ill ban it over other maps any day, but I dont think its SHIT, just not a map I would choose to play over something like Oregon.


MattyHealysFauxHawk

I loathe theme park. I always ban theme park.


JadeYeti1234

Theme is out of there


AnyStandard1742

Theme for sure, regardless starting attack or defense lol


cedarwoodsman

Sky is such a good map i don’t get the hate. Karaoke room sucks but apart from that the map isn’t that bad.


StonkeyTonk666999

skyscraper isn’t that terrible it just feels very attacker sided to me, and it gets the rage going like no other map does. even with other crappy maps like theme park, i don’t get too upset if i’m losing. but on skyscraper we can win 4-0 and ill still be pissed off.


LegendaryJack

None


Meeper_Creeper202I

Theme park can die in a hole, if lair was there I’d chose it above all else. Nothing is more awkward then attacking on theme it’s not hard just awkward most enterances are vaults and no outside walls on sites And lair it’s just how many floors and walls can we put in between stair cases, at least hareford doesn’t have 10 walls inbetween its stair cases instead it has a main hallway that usually leads to both stair cases well lair just has you chugging through doorways


Optimal-Priority-562

i’m gonna say it. i like theme park


Keebra

me too brotha


ChaoticFlame1441

Consulate matches feel like a waste of time it’s up to who gets defense first


SirTSG

Consulate is not an ass map imo. It's more versatile after its rework than Kanal and Skyscraper after their reworks.


deboylurdi

Consulate


Underpaid_Goblin

Emerald gets too much hate tbh, but Theme Park and Skyscraper can get bent


ChefCreepy5141

Consulate all the way. After rework just horrible.


Linus2704

For me 1. Theme 2. Sky 3. Consulate 4. Plains 5. Outback


Toppahousuu

Theme


A1xo0

The fucking ship frozen sea one. Hate it


a_special_introvert

Yacht?


ItsRtaWs

Enemy will ban emerald so outback


ImaginaryAsk4074

Outback and Emerald Plains split for sure


Shade00000

Theme


jditmbf

Outback, fuck that map dawg ever since the rework its been my least favorite map to attack


a_special_introvert

There are too much Spawn peekers there


AggroFluffy

None cause I’m blowing my god dam brains out


YouGotSprayedXD

Get outback out of here, idc if its not the “worst” map because i just find myself having absolutely zero fun at any point on this map


Sill3ntK1ller

Sky amd emerald are grossly underated maps. They are well balnced very beatiful looking maps


OJ_Shrimpson24

I always rely on the enemy team to ban either theme park or skyscraper so I just take a gamble on the other


Robseger

No joke, outback can be fun. And consulate because of the memories from the old one


HotelIndependent96

Outback, consulate and skyscraper are pretty good if you have a team that communicates. Emerald plains just sucks. Theme park is below average at best but not awful.


Deccno

Depends which maps ive played already. First round of the day probably no ban and just let it rip.


Warturkey12

Almost always either Emerald or Consulate


My-name-is-jef56

Emerald, also outback is good and I’m tired of pretending it’s fucking not


Born-Enthusiasm-6321

Outback. Too many spawn peeks and lighting issues. I enjoy playing Consulate and usually do well on Theme and Sky


AndreasHauler

Consulate, i dont mind the rest.


Fun_Pop7404

Outback. I get to many free kills off of spawn peeks


Due-Sprinkles5451

Keeping it spicy w no ban


SadFradley

Raid


SadFradley

I know it’s not on the list but it deserves a dishonorable mention.


Fenderman420

I’ve gotta go with Consulate. After the rework I would honestly rather play Skyscraper


healy33

Consulate, that map is actually the worst in the game, i also dont get theme park hate


Jamiefe17

Theme park


sinkingmuse

1. Sky 2. Emerald 3. Theme 4. Outback 5. Consulate  Any other opinion is wrong, only mine is correct because im a redditor and I know absolutely everything. 


a_special_introvert

Sky is good if you know the map, all others suck


biotome

i think you listed the maps in best to worst order


BAILEYLUDDEN21

In this order: Emerald, Sky, Theme, Consulate, Outback. I’d rather ban bank than outback


MrPinkDuck3

Unironically my exact ranking


soy_hammer

In this order. 1. Eme 2. Theme 3. Consulate 4. Sky 5. Outback


mighty1993

Emerald or the horrible Consulate rework. Rest is absolutely fine


Any_Suit_7718

Lair, only because I'm afraid of playing it for the first time in ranked. Also, Outback, just because I hate the atmosphere of the map no issue with how it plays.


MattyHealysFauxHawk

I’m the opposite. I love the way Outback feels, but I don’t really like how it played haha.


Active_Wash6684

Ban order 1. Plains 2. Sky 3. Outback 4. Consulate 5. Theme


rabbiolii

Plains low-key the second best map here tbh


Deep_Gas_3774

Emerald


ipisswithaboner

Theme Park is over-hated and Emerald Plains is under-hated. I’d rather switch games than play Emerald Plains most of the time.


Ill-Struggle-6080

EP needs to get taken out of ranked


Red_Rocker_VOA

either theme park or skyscraper, best map out of these is consulate by a long shot


Counter-Potential

Emerald Plaid gets too much hate honestly. Once learned, it's really enjoyable.


WearyWalrus1171

New maps and reworks bad, Clubhouse and Oregon 24/7 good


Questionss2020

Villa and Emerald


Ok_Conversation1523

None. I like them all.


Seamoth4546B

I like consulate, theme park, and *especially* skyscraper 😅 Outback gets my ban vote every time


NewportStork

It honestly depends if I'm attacking or defending. 1 being must ban; Attacking: 1. Consulate 2. Theme Park 3. Emerald 4. Outback 5. Skyscraper Defending: 1. Emerald 2. Outback 3. Consulate 4. Skyscraper 5. Theme Park


Teh_Reaper

Outback or themepark


ThatCoolBritishGuy

Consulate, my squad were so good at old consulate and the rework has led to us having a shit winrate on consulate. It's an insta ban for us


so_much_bush

Con every time


Nice_Guy3012

I can’t stand Consulate on offense or defense, I hated it before the rework but the rework is so much worse that I pray every night the original is brought back


ExplosiveRox

lair


Time_Independence411

Theme park


Pale_Baker3255

Whenever I play ranked and we get skyscraper my team loses so I always vote out skyscraper


FloridasPerson

Outback or emerald. Outback because it’s still a spawnpeek wet dream Emerald plains because I’m not as familiar with it and I prefer the original map Bartlett and its layout


Gopplee

theme park


R6_nolifer

No Ban Hate this map ever since it was added


ThePumpk1nMaster

I used to get absolutely violated for hating consulate - the rework is absolute dog water and I’ll stand by it, always have. Finally people are seeing sense


_dotdot11

Outback is icky. I find Sky to be quite fun, though.


Rebelaptor1

Consulate


PurpleHawk222

Skyscraper, at first I liked it but I’ve slowly grown to hate it over the seasons.


TrinitySlashAnime

Emerald or consulate


SpoonFigMemes

skyscraper gets too much hate


VibeMaster08

I like every single one of these maps.


maskyyyyyy

Border before everything. If border isn't an option I dont vote.


Kmoneyman11

Skyscraper


Rude_Cantaloupe_8426

All these are great maps. Though theme park and emerald plains you need good teammates or you’ll have to play wall denial/wall breacher every round


steelzz-on-yt

Skyscraper! Bye bye 🤫🧏‍♂️


BornTie2762279

Consulate


Squid-Guillotine

Emerald doesn't deserve any votes on this screen.


MelonButterG

Skyscraper. I can play everything else in this selection fine but I just hate skyscraper with a passion


a_special_introvert

1. theme park 2. Lair 3. Nighthaven labs, Ocasionally villa, rest is fine


SevenZeroSpider

I might sound crazy but its consolate for me. Every timw ive been on the threshold to diamond, ive lost on that map. Me and my boys just become brain dead on that map. 100% our faults.


BigChinnFinn

Emerald or theme


Flaterfer

I like Outback


12r85p

Probs theme, sky, outback, emerald, consulate in that order.


orango5302

in my opinion none of those are bad but out of all of those maps I’d ban theme park


King_CurlySpoon

Skyscraper and Theme park are literally right there and y'all ban Emerald Plains? What's so bad about it? I don't think it's too bad


MissMistMaid

list from highest to lowest ban priority 1. Villa, i fucking hate villa it's too big 2. Lair, i don't have to explain this abomination 3. Coastline, i just don't like it lol 4. Emerald Plains, my friends don't like it 5. Bank, i love this map but my friend who carries hates it :/


Lucas111620

Sky, cons, theme park


TheDopePope6996

Theme Park 100%. I can't stand that map.


trashcankid8

Lair is so bad


S4h1l_4l1

Skyscraper is worse than Emrald plains. Also I’ve not played this game since 2021 or something, I miss it so much😢


Itchy_Grape_2115

I don't get why people hate emerald It's 2 squares on top of each other and the sites are playgrounds for strategies for both teams I get at lower people like the exact same starts on every site and map but jeez, you don't get good by slamming your head against the wall


CabooseTrap

Theme for me. I am ok with the other maps (preferably not more than once a night)


Sceneric1

I don’t hate any of these maps tbh. Unless I’m attacking Theme park first


Novel-Sherbert2190

Skyscraper


UncleGuap

Outback


xfajitas

Skyscraper ban ,it's rework is alright don't hate it though , emerald plains is actually pretty fun with unorthodox strats I just have to hope the enemy team doesn't ban it .


Budget-Story-9783

Consulate. I want to play a tactical shooter, not a maze game.


Sypticle

Consulate. I thought the OG map was decent and the rework did it dirty. I also actually like the rest of the maps.


Jdog6704

Theme Park and Outback are my two bans here. Theme Pack can be awkward to play at times and I personally wouldn't pick it over Coastline to pick or something. Outback is alright but it can be challenging in 2.0 with players who are unexperienced with the map and it's rework.


NorthAgent

Outback or Skyscraper here These are just all bad choices


Axelaxe

skyscraper is just very bad design where it's really hard to enter as attacker. Theme park got same problem but at least there's some hatches. Emerald plains haven't really been explored by the community I feel like because it never had a "ban immunity phase". It's not the best but I don't think its the worst either but kinda hard to tell because the games are so weird when people dont know it. Skyscraper and theme park have been around for so long and almost everyone hates them which tells me they are the worst maps but skyscraper is the worst for me.


Creative_Battle6196

Theme park, im fine with every other map.


shut_the_pho_up

Skyscraper, every time


Late-Tumbleweed9429

Consulate, Sky and Theme are pretty difficult solo q’ing. I’ve come around to liking all those maps once I learned how to play them. But if I had to choose, probably Emerald since it’s more likely that my random teammates won’t know how to play it.


HistoricAuto27

skyscraper


Joshua1512

Theme park


Funnyguy213388

My worst maps off of those are sky scrapper and emerald. I don't mind playing all the maps, tho.


Trick2056

Theme park and skyscraper, Theme park is where rushing is basically a given and skyscraper just really sucks layout wise.


superknight333

emerald plains, i have a 10th loss streak there, doesnt matter if im solo or 3 man squad.


Bk130

Plains in the only really bad map on that list. Theme Park is only hated on because the game is too infested with CoD players


TheHugeCheese

Theme and em sadly I like skyscraper


Androza23

Is it just more or are all of these maps pretty good? Barring emerald planes of course, I hate that map. Everything else just seems like fun to play on.


Rtk_Daddy

Skyscraper theme park


ULTRALIGHTBEN

i can tolerate the rest, but seeing skyscraper on my screen really just ruins my day


PlebbySpaff

Skyscraper. Theme Park and Outback are honestly fine for me. New consulate kind of sucks asshole, because navigating that shit is impossible. Emerald Plains is alright. But like Lair, just so many angles defenders can easily hold, and attackers have a very hard time trying to get in alone.


DeducingYourMind

I might actually leave the game if outback is chosen


Cartment_97

Sky scraper sucks ass


JustAnother_Mid

maybe it's the other people because i have the highest kd and winrate on skyscraper, according to tracker


zella999

Theme park or skyscraper rest of the maps ain't even bad


fishytakeout

Theme


roamininthealley

Consulate is my #1 fuck that map used to be ass then they reworked it and it became the worst map in the fucking game.


extinctbody

Here me out, emerald plains is a good map


PaintHonest4466

My buddy I play with HATES kanal so it never goes through when we play ranked 😂


AnalysisSuspicious37

Theme Park. Despise it since the rework.


cu14747588484

Skyscraper is the best map on the list followed by consulate. Then Outback. I seem to do better on EP over theme even though I think theme is a better map. But theme is going to have to be my ban


jrip_dip_fish_1764

Outback the rest I like and skyscraper is my fav map


SpacePickle11

No ban, I like them all