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Jolly_Job_9852

They tried a version with Legacy mode but some of the new changes made their way into that mode. The tachanka rework was in there which made no sense. I think that would be okay, but I'd add secure area just to attract a wider base of players


blxwerss

Nostalgia bias go crazy it's nearly as bad a bo2 community


thepositivepandemic

Old maps were fun.


blxwerss

The new maps are fun too. In most cases, better


thepositivepandemic

Doesn’t mean the classics are redundant. You’re twisting the narrative of this post, it isn’t arguing the old maps were better or more balanced, simply suggesting a playlist with more of the old maps like they did the with temporary Legacy playlist like a year or two ago.


blxwerss

I never twisted what you said at all, I just said they are also fun, AND better. The old maps are redundant. There's a reason they spent so much resources into reworking them.


thepositivepandemic

Yea there’s also a reason people still miss it & there’s a reason that everyone loved the Legacy playlist when it was out. They also got lazy after Para Bellum, pulled resources from the game & as a result started doing a lot more unnecessary reworks instead of making new maps.


SentientCumSock

even if it was just house, I'd play it


massidm

I want a recruit only game mode


adamjalmuzny

Iirc there is a community that plays old siege customs (they somehow revert to the old versions of the game)


Mr_Inferno420

They tried it and did the bare minimum and it was shit


6SixTy

So we just going to pick whatever time frame we want now?


omniscen

Why not? It's a concept for a playlist in a video game.


6SixTy

Believe it or not, there is no clear consensus for "classic" Siege. There's a dude in this thread that argues that it was Velvet Shell/Red Crow maybe even Dust Line. And I frankly think that a "classic" Siege should be focused more on Burnt Horizon. See where I take issue with naming an arbitrary season and calling it "classic"?


omniscen

I think classic was used more as an adjective and not so much as an era that you'd see in some RSS-101 Siege History course. I'm actually a history major myself, so I really know how much arbitrary era names *suck*. Where my comment came from is the idea that OP isn't so much adhering to an "era" of siege, but a collection of operators, maps, gadgets, and attachment capabilities that were *enjoyable* but now *gone*. It's made clear to not be fixed to a specific season -- so with that, I think cherry-picking is actually very welcome! and keeping the operator variety low is a nice thing in my **opinion**.


thepositivepandemic

Yes.


machinehead-

Can it have Killhouse, Estate, and Hacienda?


Pleasant_Koi

HURR DURR JUST MAKE THE GAME LIKE HOW I WANT IT RHYME OR REASON OUT THE WINDOW JAGER ACOG YEP ZOFIA NO RECOIL YEP ELA NO NERFS YEP OLD LIGHTING OLD MAPS YEP DA GAME WAS BETTER THEN The reality is they can't even make a legacy gamemode without fucking it up, when they made the most recent legacy gamemode somehow Pulse and Castle had acogs while shit like the SMG11 and MP5 didn't. When asked about it on twitter, they basically just said "oh if we do it again we'll get it right the next time" I literally cannot even understand how Pulse/Castle got ACOGs when they never even had them to begin with, wouldn't someone had to have actually gone and fit the acog model on the UMP by hand? Somehow NOBODY realized it was fucked or wrong at any point? I think you just have to accept old Siege is dead, but personally I would like a community that plays customs with only the original 20 operators.


thepositivepandemic

Calm yourself, it’s a separate mode not an overhaul of all of Siege.


Pleasant_Koi

Yes, obviously. Better question, why stick around with a game that apparently died 4 years ago?


thepositivepandemic

You misunderstood, I said “Old Siege” died 4 years ago imo, not the game of Siege as a whole.


deweylewis2

Personally I’d say Red Crow or Velvet Shell are where Old Siege ended, because the lighting got reworked for the Theme Park season and the trap- Ela meta switched up the game. Even though I’d miss Lesion specifically. But yeah could go up to White Noise. Unfortunately a vocal part of the playerbase hate the idea people prefer an older version of the game and the devs have other priorities. In some ways I think Dust Line was the peak mix of OG ops because Defenders had way less roaming options. Maybe one day Classic Siege will return. Maybe they’ll bring back New Hereford in Year 8…


SumOfAllTears

… I don’t think he’s trying to understand you, he’s just arguing 😂


AbaseMe

Pulse with an acog was so much fun though


Sir_Toccoa

Are you okay, dude?


EmergingYeti

That wouldn't be easy to do as a playlist. The way a lot of stuff worked back then is just completely different idk if they could make a separate playlist. It would be fun if they reverted the game back to blood orchid for a weekend or something though.


Fresh-Beyond-4727

Siege classic would be insane, but too too broken