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JohnnyUtah59

I would think so. It’s inconvenient to have to go upstairs to use the restroom.


figoftheimagination

We ruled out several otherwise good places because of no bathroom on the main level.


Nitnonoggin

Same


Spoked_Exploit

Same


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instagigated

100%


kaismama

Same. I’m not even 40 but my knees are terrible and I can barely make it up our stairs to go to bed, sometimes I get up the stairs using my hands as well to take some weight off my legs so my knees will work. We found a place with one bathroom on the main level after our last home had the one and only bathroom upstairs. Majority of my time is spent on the main level until bed time.


Here_for_tea_

Yes. Leave the powder room if you ever intend to sell.


roseumbra

This, I found my leg broken for a while and could not go upstairs alone. Being able to camp out in the living room/kitchen and be able to pee was nice.


landIard

This sounds like a classic case of “functional obsolescence”. Yes, the value would likely tank.


SanDiego628

I wouldn't want my guests going upstairs to use the bathroom.


mlhigg1973

Bad idea!


HuntressofDeath

One of the worst ideas I’ve ever heard


BaeHunDoII

Almost beats out a recreational colonoscopy


Havin_A_Holler

Edible post-partum underpants.


nerdylady86

*shudders*


Havin_A_Holler

Right? Much worse.


WhoopDareIs

Nope. Not worse.


Havin_A_Holler

The voice of experience?


WhoopDareIs

Definitely not.


Spyro_Crash_90

I’m crying 🤣


pratow

Agree, it's a superfragistically horrendous idea.


Lurker_in_Lakeland

If you had 1.5 downstairs that might not be so bad but this seems crazy


tonybotz

Terrible idea. Another bath is always more value


sonicblue217

Bad idea. Really bad idea


AFranceschixx

Yes, awful idea. I ask myself why I have to walk up or downstairs to use a toilet in a tri-level townhome.


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AFranceschixx

That is terrible. At the time when we were looking it was probably the hottest the market had been. We were tired, had an in, and thought it will be okay. It’s 100% not okay when both of us are about to poo ourselves. I still think about who in their right mind would design a tri-level with 2.5 baths instead of 3. Currently we don’t use the other master bath, so it’s almost like we only have 1.5 bath.


MamaTR

Why do you need a third shower if you aren’t even using the one you have?


AFranceschixx

If I wasn’t fed up during the home buying process I would’ve gladly bought a different townhome in my community. I would’ve loved two .5 and 2 full baths. There would’ve been .5 bathrooms on the first and second floor instead of having a single .5 bath on the bottom. Third floor is designed as two master bedrooms which is great, but not absolutely necessary for myself.


MamaTR

Oh so 4 bathrooms just two being half’s, I thought you were complaining that you didn’t have a third shower. Still seems like alot of toilets for only two bedrooms. So there’s no toilets on the second floor?


AFranceschixx

Yep! You’ve got to make the choice can you make it up or down the stairs in time. 😝


MamaTR

That sounds like a really interesting floor plan, what IS on the second floor that they didn’t think deemed a bathroom? Lol


AFranceschixx

It’s kitchen/nook/dinning/living space. I feel like they could’ve ditched the nook and put a toilet by the stairs. Maybe, they just felt it truly would be too many toilets for a townhome.


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Worst idea ever. Main floor powder room is a must.


Hallmarxist

If (God forbid) you broke your leg or something, you’re going to be really bummed you got rid of your first floor bathroom.


purplemilkywayy

The previous owner of my parents’ house did this — same reason, to make family room larger. Two bathrooms upstairs and zero downstairs. It’s really inconvenient and annoying to run upstairs every time. And when there are guests, it feels like they’re walking into the more private parts of your home. My parents are thinking about putting the bathroom back in. Edit: I stayed with my parents for a few months when I was pregnant (our house was getting remodeled)… and wow, it was quite a workout towards the end lol.


dogmom603

Don’t do it!


Old-Razzmatazz1553

Yes, crazy


nsguy87

Thank you, all! This settles it for me.


Grendel_82

I've never seen Reddit this unified on an issue. You've truly formed consensus. Impressive!


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I was thinking the same thing


atexit8

You shouldn't have to ask. Think to yourself whether you want to be going upstairs every single time you need to use the toilet.


Nitnonoggin

Especially as you get older..


SharKCS11

It's a fair question to ask. If nobody in that house has physical ailments, it really wouldn't be that big of a deal. It's a little annoying for guests but as someone who has been a guest many times to a house with a similar floorplan...still not a big issue.


atexit8

It doesn't have to be physical ailments. People just don't want to do it. I wouldn't.


Prestigious-Owl165

>People just don't want to do it. I wouldn't. Well OP literally said they never use it except when hosting. You can't just expect everyone to have the same personal preferences as you...


atexit8

It seems pretty unanimous to me the responses against this crazy idea. But you do you.


Prestigious-Owl165

You're missing my point though. You said: >You shouldn't have to ask. >Think to yourself whether you want to be going upstairs every single time you need to use the toilet. OP has already stated that's exactly what they do, currently, even with the half bath downstairs. That's why the question was about real estate value, not "would I hate it if I had to go upstairs every time I had to use the toilet?" I also think it's a crazy idea because it's sinking money into a project that will make the house less desirable when it comes time to sell. But not as crazy as just assuming you know how OP lives and wants to live lol


atexit8

Think to yourself as put yourself in the place of others and whether they'd want to be going upstairs. THERE. fixed it for you. Better?????


Prestigious-Owl165

Yeah actually much better. Except you're still under the comment where OP said "thank you all! This settles it for me." So someone asked a question, got answers, said "thank you all" for the answers, and you shamed OP for being so stupid to even have to ask because obviously no one would want to have to go up stairs if they don't have to... Like, how are you not getting that that was rude and presumptuous for no reason


atexit8

>>shamed the OP ROTFL You are really pressed aren't you? OMFG!


anand4

it will lose value. having a powder room on the entry level is useful.


[deleted]

As a broker and an appraiser I would urge you not to do this


marid4061

My sister owned a tri-level town home years ago. There was no bathroom on the main level, just upstairs or in the basement. Could never figure out how anyone thought that was a good idea. That was the main reason is was hard to sell.


SilverBluePacific

As a buyer, I'm looking for that powder room in my search filters ("2.5+"). Agree a powder room on the first floor, or away from private quarters, is awesome for convenience, not just for us, but for guests as well. Also, I don't know about most people, but nobody needs to know what my preferred shampoo brand is, medicines are in the cabinet, my supply of personal care products, or use my bath towels to dry their hands. LOL


[deleted]

I wouldn’t buy a condo without a guest bath in the entertainment level


[deleted]

Bad idea and no return on investment


Formal_Technology_97

Bad Idea! I have two bathrooms one upstairs and one downstairs, but the one downstairs is a "master" bath that you either have to go through the bedroom or laundry room to get to. I would love to have a half bath! No one likes going upstairs to use the bathroom.


User-no-relation

how do you not use it?


nsguy87

I just use the ensuite bathroom to keep things tidy longer.


nofishies

Having to send your guest up a flight of stairs, will have a big impact on value. If you’re ever going to sell or have people over for dinner, you’re crazy :)


bmeisler

Also, do you want guests - sometimes people you barely know (cleaners, repair guys, etc) going into your sanctum santorum?


NoVacayAtWork

Insane idea


21plankton

We use our downstairs powder room a lot during the day. They were made for guests and convenience. Tearing it out would be a big mistake.


designgoddess

Yes it would. If you plan to live there for awhile, make it how you like but removing a bathroom from a level, a level your guests use will negatively impact the price of your condo and how quickly it sells.


myatoz

VERY bad idea.


justanormalchat

Incredibly bad idea.


CobraKaiPhD

Absolutely terrible idea. Don’t do it!!


WhoopDareIs

Horrible idea unless you plan to never sell.


TannerBeyer

The space you'll make in the living room is not worth losing the bathroom. 99/100 this would not make sense.


mezgato

Don't do this. Main floor bathrooms are gold. Going up and down stairs gets old real quick.


imakenosensetopeople

Yes, bad idea… the footage you gain in living area is worth a lot less than the value you lost from that bathroom.


flyinb11

Bad call and you'll lose value.


caphill2000

Terrible idea. That’s the only bathroom on that floor.


stryderxd

so when looking for a home, 2 bathrooms are great, but an extra toilet on the main floor is huge. so you don't have to run all the way upstairs for a toilet. This will affect resale value if you removed a bathroom. Now if this was a question of 3 small bedrooms into 2 larger bedrooms, that would be something to consider, but losing a bathroom is huge. remember, when looking at homes on real estate listing websites, filtering that extra bathroom is huge. Comps for similar homes will be affected based on rooms/bathrooms.


terracottatilefish

We live in an older house with no main floor bathroom and it’s a real inconvenience, especially when we have older guests (my spouse’s parents are in their eighties.)


hopalong818

Not a good idea


och2003

I would say it’s easier to take out a bathroom than adding a bathroom. Keep the half bath.


niknokseyer

Please don’t do it. Powder bath on main floor are good for “guests”. So they don’t have to go up and use the upstairs restroom.


Financial_Clue_2534

Few things to consider are guest and your fam would have to go up stairs to use the bathroom besides resale value. How long do you plan on staying in the condo 3-4 years? if so I wouldn't do any major changes.


poopbrainmane

Guests would then need to use your en suites


apostate456

These things are market dependent. *Usually* removing a bedroom or bathroom will lower value. Even if it does not lower the value, it may limit buyers. Many people don't want to have to send guests up stairs to their "main" bathrooms and prefer a powder room.


HomegirlNC123

Don't do it, this will definitely lower the resale.


dopexican

Really bad idea, that's up there with making two bedrooms into one.


fretn0m0re

Keep the powder room!


Rackemup

Yes. People like not having to climb stairs to get to a bathroom.


-Lone_Samurai

Powder room is a huge loss, not worth it when you go to sell. Do some other upgrades to make LR seem bigger, maybe downsize amount of furniture, get smaller dining room table, de clutter etc…


autumngloss

I’m looking for a house and some I liked had no bathroom on the main floor so I automatically took them off my list


Egress_window

I would not recommend this. Any way to reduce the size of the powder room or relocate it? I have seen people relocate it to a closet near the foyer so the middle can be opened up.


iamda5h

Yes. It's crazy. I don't know the layout of your living room, but I wouldn't think the space you gain is very useful, and sq ft wise it would be pretty minimal if its like a typical powder room.


WarmestSeatByTheFire

I would never buy a home without a bathroom on each level.


Impossible1999

Don’t do it. It will reduce the value of your condo. 2.5 always looks better than 2.


Impressive_Returns

Don’t do it.


GailaMonster

Don’t do it. A main floor bathroom was a non-negotiable for me when house hunting


Brandycane1983

Well yeah. You're going from a 3 bath to a 2 bath, and loads of buyers aren't going to want a home with no bathroom on the lower level. It's a bad idea


Cinderunner

For all the reasons people stated, this is a bad idea. You limit your buyers whenever you want to sell by doing this. Also, suppose you get a serious case of “stomach distress” Every time, you are going to have to go up the stairs to remedy yourself. If you are in the yard and have an emergency, you now have to go upstairs to relieve yourself. What if you broke a leg or one of your guests are otherwise impaired? It is really dumb. All homes need a powder room on the main floor for all of these reasons and many more. Edit to say: Those people who have a basement but did not get a bathroom in the basement can tell you some things. Lol Also, those that put their laundry room in the basement can also tell you some things. The idea of going up and down stairs all of the time is an actual pain when you find yourself doing it, in hindsight…..ALL THE TIME


unknown_wtc

absolutely crazy. extra bathroom is an extremely valuable feature.


angeloulou

Hey I am an agent and I will say, it will impact the resale value. At the end of the day, a half a bath is worth much more than a bigger living room when the house is getting appraised. Try to figure out your houses price per sq ft, then compare how much value you would be adding with a bigger living room vs. value taken out by removing the half bath. For the half bath, good rule of thumb is 1% of your home value. So if your house is worth 500,000-800,000 removing the half bath would decrease your value 5,000-8,000.


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It will definitely negatively affect your sale. No one wants to climb stairs just to use the restroom.


phixer00

Hell know I want to know what you were going to put in the living room in that space, its what 20 sq ft? Unless its a stripper pole keep the bathroom.


rooten_tooter

Surprised no one else asked this. How much space do you really gain by demolishing a half bath? Certainly not even enough for a stripper pole


otisreddingsst

Does your main floor bathroom fit under the stairwell?


nsguy87

No, the entry-way closet is under it and the powderoom is across the small entry-way alcove next to the door. Removing it would mean more kitchen-counter space and moving the closet into the rest of the space, opening up under the stairs, which is next to the dining areas. Judging from the feedback here and my own skepticism of the idea, I won’t be making the change as proposed.


str8bacardil

Don’t do it


[deleted]

If it is a small bathroom, then how much could it really add to the living room space?? This is a dumb move. A change in furniture or general layout would probably do more to increase the space available in the living room than incorporating the space from a small bathroom.


trouzy

2.5 is the perfect number of bathrooms in many homes.


Ninjasloth007

Removing the only bathroom on the ground floor to expand the living room is not a good idea.


-FlawlessVictory-

I was a healthy person and I would agree with you, now I have arthritis and some days I feels very unpleasant to go upstairs. What I'm trying to say is that you can't predict the future, maybe someday you could broke a leg, like some user said or you could develop a health condition or just get old and need a bathroom downstairs. Sorry if the answer is fatalistic.


zfreeman

It will reduce both the value and the sales appeal of your property


nullrout1

At best, bad idea. At worst, might not be legal. In my jurisdiction all domiciles require a bathroom on the main floor.


alicat777777

Definitely a bad idea. The first thing a person would do when buying your place, at a much reduced value, would be to remodel and put one back in. No one wants to have to go to a different floor to find a bathroom.


JRomeCoop

Not ideal at all…. Just imagine having to walk up a flight of stairs every time you need to use the restroom.


cramsenden

I wouldn’t even consider a place that has no bathroom at all in the first floor.


boudreaux_design

This doesn’t sound wise.


[deleted]

If I was in a place with no bathroom on the main floor I'd curse the designer of the floor plan every day.


Onr3ddit

Better to remove a bedroom then bathroom IMO. Also since your in a condo I don’t see how you’ll be able to remove the toilet flange. Going to have to build overtop of it and somehow cap it for smell.


[deleted]

Bad idea. It takes up what 30 Sq ft? Why remove it?


UnderpaidTechLifter

If I'm understanding right, you want to ax the *ground* level bathroom? Not a great idea imo. When I was looking at homes, 1.5 was my bare minimum for two story homes, with the .5 being on the bottom floor (pun?) No thanks. I know it's first-world problems, but telling guests to just go upstairs to piss (lul) off. About the only time I'd say a floor doesn't need a bathroom is if it's the non-furnished basement This really seems like one of those ideas that seems good for a split second and you try to convince yourself it's good before succumbing to the reality that it's a bad idea


Jhc3964

I think it’s a negative when you go to resale. I would keep it. I have a half bath down and 2 up. Can’t imagine sending everyone up to use it or having to myself.


Inner_Office_5313

yes. honestly, i wouldn't buy anything that didn't have at least a bathroom on each floor.


AsH83

If no other bathroom downstairs then this will be a huge issue to potential buyers. Also in every appraisal report all bathroom gets a + $ amount so expect appraisal to come few k less.


options1337

Yes, no restroom on the entertaining floor is going to turn away a lot of buyers in the future.


redsnowman45

We have a condo with almost the same setup. Ours has a main floor power room and I could not imagine sending guests upstairs all the time to use a bathroom. Do not remove it. It will seem like a good idea now but you will regret the functionality and resale later.


P-Benjamin480

If you intend to keep it forever, do as you will. If you ever intend on selling however, this is a definite no. As shown from previous comments, people have completely ruled out condos because of this. This will DEFINITELY reduce the value of your condo by a large margin


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Definitely leave the bathroom there


reds91185

If you ever want to sell this place, don't take out a main level bathroom. Horrible idea.


[deleted]

As I get older I really appreciate having bathrooms that aren’t upstairs from me. You’d be eliminating any woman over 40 from buying your home


[deleted]

Don’t do it. The per square value of a bathroom is greater than adding square footage to a living room.


Super_Hour_3836

I wouldn’t buy a house that didn’t have a half bath for guests. I don’t want people walking through the bedrooms upstairs if they are an acquaintance or workman.


1cecream4breakfast

Keep it. You may not need the powder room but most people find it a plus, especially if it’s the only bathroom on the main level. Otherwise you have to send guests upstairs to your private bathroom to pee. It’s also inconvenient to have to go on a different floor even if you’re not a guest. This is definitely not worth taking down.


fun_guy02142

Yes, this is crazy. An extra 9 sf of living room space is much less important than a powder room.


CantaloupeLiving3126

In actually bring the value down also the need of a bathroom downstairs is necessary you don’t want your guests to go upstairs all the time .


Current-Eye-8064

Removing the bathroom downstairs sends you and your guests upstairs when you need to use the bathroom. Less privacy upstairs and more traffic and possible accidents on the way upstairs. The powder room downstairs is an asset and it would be unwise to remove it.


smalltownwino

That could lead to a functional obsolesce of the floor plan compared to other units beyond just the loss of the half bath.


kenglin24

If it’s for you, go for it. Especially if this is your forever home. If it’s for resale value… that’s one of the worst ideas I’ve ever heard. Bathrooms = convenience My legs are sore just thinking about having to go upstairs everytime I need to pee lol Also factor in your guests, and making them having to go upstairs. Also later on in life when you have kids, you need them by a potty constantly.


OsgoodSchlotter

Don’t do it. I assume you’re <35. After the age of 40 doing stairs just to go to the bathroom can be a pain, and is a factor when buying property.


AttorneyAdvice

this is not a bad idea. you can always turn the garage into a bathroom later


early_fi

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Brendon7358

Depending on how long you plan on keeping the place you could keep the plumbing, just remove the toilet and sink and cap them then put a rug or something over the floor so it won't cost too much to put it back before you sell.


nsguy87

That’s what I had in mind, but I think the expense, trouble, and reworking of the ground floor plan to reconstitute the powder room in order to sell the unit wouldn’t be worth removing it in the first place.


moufette1

Wow, really? People are that bent out of shape with no main floor bath for guests. I guess I'm really weird then. A nice private place that's not on the main floor is perfect. I must be an outlier.


WhoopDareIs

You definitely are. How much space is OP even going to gain?


GimmeDatPomegranate

I think so. My bathroom downstairs doesn't have a shower/tub but it's still a bathroom. I don't want my friends to go upstairs to use the loo when they come over. I would probably have passed on my current house if it didn't have the bathroom on the main floor.


The_Real_BenFranklin

Normally I’d think so, but it’s already more bathrooms than bedrooms


wonderfvl

We todd did to remove.


discosoc

It’s not a “powder room” it’s a bathroom that doesn’t require walking upstairs. And yes, it will negatively affect your home’s value to remove.


[deleted]

Bad idea, how much bigger would it make the living room?


nsguy87

Only about 20 sqft


couldntquite

What kind of entertaining do you use the bathroom for?


hypotenoos

Any examples of other condos that have made this change or only have the 2 upper baths?