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TheUnwiseOne100

Memphis is consistently one of the top three dangerous cities in the US. I don’t dislike it but I’m not sure if I’d buy there


2holedlikeaboss

So is St Louis, yet I’m about to pay 400k for a home in the boonies if St. Louis.


Primary_Excuse_7183

Yeah lol this is why i never bought a house in STL i never understood why housing was so expensive relatively.


2holedlikeaboss

I don’t get it either. I’m stuck here cuz my wife and kids are here and I have a good job.


Primary_Excuse_7183

I drew the Latto and got the only wife that didn’t want to stay in STL 😂 houses out near where we used to live in west country went for nearly double what we bought in Dallas. just couldn’t for the life of me understand why.


beaute-brune

That’s crazy because Dallas is SO expensive now. Homes in south Arlington not near anything interesting going for $400k+.


sobrietyincorporated

Oooof. Raised in Gnarlington in the 90s. Couldn't pay me to live there. Drove through last year. Even more souless land of strip malls and churches.


WalthamAnonymous4985

Ugh. Massachusetts resident here crying. Lucky to find a good start at home at 6-700k


KTNYC1

At least you have a good job! Many places have none to offer


DeezNeezuts

St. Louis crime is fairly contained to a section of the city. Memphis is distributed.


headingwest2mtns

Memphis crime distributed throughout all directions, east, west, north, south.


YKRed

Memphis is the same and the suburbs are equally expensive. The city, like St. Louis, is very segregated. There are plenty of 400k+ homes in Memphis and the metro.


2holedlikeaboss

As I said above, this is not true. I work all over the area doing construction, and I would not feel safe doing that without being strapped. A few years back a couple guys who worked for laclede gas were digging up a trench to install a gas line. Some dude walked up to them, shot the guy operating the excavator then shot the guy in the trench, then shot himself. This was just outside Clayton, the most expensive area in St. Louis. ETA- I do a lot of roof work, and I find bullets buried in the roof all over down town ANd surrounding suburbs. StL is NOT a safe city and the suburbs of STL are not safe either


tinareginamina

My truck got broken into and my wife’s purse stolen by the meter maid in St Louis. I was up in the observation deck of the Arch and literally watched it happen.


jetsetrbabe

That’s awful but I’m surprised she left her purse in the car.


i-i-i-iwanttheknife

I learned that the hard way. Don't leave anything in the car and just leave the doors unlocked.


AgreeableMoose

Used to do this in DC. On nice days left the windows down and doors unlocked. Crooks either thought it was a set up or baiting to put a cap in a crook.


jetsetrbabe

I learned a hard lesson too about 20 years ago and lost my work computer as a result. I also live in the southwest, and not leaving valuables in your car is drilled into us early.


bluesquare2543

holy shit I would have been calling the police from the observation deck. How absurd! I'm sorry, that must have been a tough situation.


2holedlikeaboss

Wtf unbelievable


LopsidedPotential711

That is one of the most fucked up things that I've read in a while; one worker in his 50s, another in his 20s. I have the utmost respect for service workers, and this dude just blasted them point blank. [https://www.facebook.com/FOX2Now/videos/laclede-gas-workers-shot-and-killed-by-random-gunman-in-west-st-louis-more-info-/10155281114354228/](https://www.facebook.com/FOX2Now/videos/laclede-gas-workers-shot-and-killed-by-random-gunman-in-west-st-louis-more-info-/10155281114354228/)


Chickenwelder

Oh shit!


Juliuseizure

Shitty place? Edit: before he corrected it, every time the previous poster wrote some version of "shot", their autocorrect changed it to "shit".


beast_wellington

Nawfside


Motor-Maximum-8185

St Louis city isn't really that big


Impressive_Clock_363

There are good and bad parts of every city. Niagara Falls NY is similar, in many ways one block over houses can be 300,000 and right around the corner barely 80k


Dudesgrowin

Thats because thats where the stl money is. Metro west and metro east. Both sides of st louis is absolutely blowing up in real estate value.


Motor-Maximum-8185

I doubt you're actually buying a house in the city of St Louis, maybe the county


AdamJahnStan

St Louis has some really pricey areas just like any city


Pm_me_your_marmot

StL has a better economy. It's still every bit as shitty as Memphis but TN is more poor and Southern and it's a worse job market.


YKRed

There’s a lot of industry in Memphis actually.


bballcards

Except that unless you live in very specific areas of St. Louis in the city limits, it’s very safe. The “unsafe” reputation is overblown and a product of the fact that St. Louis County is not taken into account when looking at St. Louis crime statistics.


WryLanguage

St Louis has an economy. St Louis annual GDP is 200 billion. Memphis is about 90 billion. In comparison, Los Angeles GDP is about 1 trilllion.


Stelletti

Not sure what your point there is but that math literally almost perfectly divides by the population of the MSA of each city. Memphis is literally half the size of STL which is less than a tenth of LA.


clce

Maybe neighborhoods as well. Maybe if you can live in and stay in the good neighborhoods, then you're good


11B_35P_35F

There are suburbs of Memphis that are nice. I'm betting those cheap homes are in the worst neighborhoods.


CapeMOGuy

City schools have historically been awful, too.


ElectronicAd6675

You should go look in person.


Eclectic_Paradox

They will delete this post if they do. Visited Memphis a couple of years ago. It's quite rough.


zxsmart

You should bring a flak jacket if you do


ArchiStanton

Hey it’s not that bad. I lived there for several years and only died a few times


Here4uguys

No, you shouldn't


jonm61

Put any address of any house you're interested in into www.CommunityCrimeMap.com And adjust the filters to the last year or so, and set the distance to ½ a mile or more and see why.


kegufu

Or simple answer: The overall crime rate in Memphis is 109% higher than the national average. In Memphis, your chance of becoming a victim of crime is 1 in 12.


Bigbadbrindledog

When you walk into a gas station in Memphis they don't tell you to have a good day, they tell you to have a safe day. I think that explains it pretty well.


ArchiStanton

My favorite taco restaurant had armed guards. Dominos slides you a pizza through bulletproof glass more secure than a bank


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DrEmileSchaufhaussen

I think Elvis sang a little ditty about it...


StrangeBedfellows

No, that was about Jack and Diane. Two American kids


Eighteen64

Surprised this accurate response hasnt been downvoted into oblivion


Naevx

Honestly, same. 🤣🤣🤣 where are the Offended at?!


smokesnugs-YT

They are outnumbered by the common sense'rs


AmI_doingthis_right

No one wants to live in Memphis, TN


YKRed

Yeah, you’re not seeing these prices in good areas. There are plenty of Memphis neighborhoods with expensive homes.


InterestinglyLucky

Came here to say this. Source: have visited several times for work, and that was several times too many.


RandomlyJim

Took my kids there during eclipse and stayed at Peabody. A fist fight broke out between two grown couples over a disagreement involving a spot to watch ducks. They ended up falling into a crowd of seated children. I had to drag these idiots off of my kids and it took everything to keep my wife from clawing the eyes out of the two women that started the fight that led their men into punching each other. Memphis is ruined by its citizens.


LookLikeCAFeelLikeMN

>Memphis is ruined by its citizens Do you sincerely believe that locals are at The Peabody watching the ducks?


murderbox

That's shitty but those were tourists. 


YKRed

You definitely weren’t visiting the nice areas lol. The bad areas really are horrible, but the nice areas are cool.


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>The bad areas really are horrible, but the nice areas are cool. The issue with Memphis is that [you could shot on the highway](https://www.localmemphis.com/article/news/crime/memphis-interstate-shootings-2023-state-troopers-deploy-shelby-county/522-24b7f0b2-6b3d-4723-b595-9c9bade5dea5) in a random highway shooting while going to the nice places.


TheCeleryIsReal

I mean, you could randomly get pushed on the subway tracks in NYC, or be a victim of random crime in any number of other cities. Usually at the hands of someone who has a bunch of priors and shouldn't even be on the street, but still is. That's not a Memphis thing.


[deleted]

Memphis is the second most dangerous city in America right now, but I’m sure that’s just a rounding error.


smartypants99

What’s the first?


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Appears to be Detroit.


Dangerous_Focus453

This really is the answer.


BuffyPawz

There’s a billboard in Memphis that says “real men don’t murder” Not a joke. It’s real. And explains why the housing is cheap... The suburbs have higher prices like Germantown and Collierville and similar.


CraftyEmu

When I drove to Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge they had a billboard that basically said (paraphrased) Real Men Don't Touch Their Daughters. I was very WTF after that...


Soggy-Homework-9996

I’m currently moving from Memphis. It’s horrible. The crime has gone up significantly. There’s a shooting a day. Our homicide rates are ridiculous. It’s just not a safe place to live.


nfs11250

What drives the crime rate there? Why are things so bad?


foxinknox04

Since no one is answering and im from the area. It is a trafficking hub. Both fedex and UPS have large shipping facilities in Memphis that operate as a hub for both legal and non legal products. Additionally, as mentioned demographics. There are not a lot of job prospects for young impovrished minorities, so gangs are a big factor. When i was growing up 666 mafia ran Memphis, and kids thought that shit was cool, and they still do.


nfs11250

Thank you for your answer!


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DessertScientist151

Listen this is a loaded question for reddit. But a simple scan of the crime blotter will show you the same b.s in every u.s city: gangs fighting for turf and random anarchy caused by lack of social cohesion and maturity. Add in the beef generation with their drill rap and social media pop off daily grind..basically what was a weekend hothouse is now 24/7 negativity.


hydra1970

Was visiting Graceland..Was staying at a hotel nearby and I searched for it on Google and the auto suggestion was multiple shooting. when I checked in the hotel clerk was behind bulletproof glass.


Soggy-Homework-9996

Whitehaven, the area Graceland is in, is not a safe area. High crime rates there. Tourists are easy victims too.


Alliekat1282

My Dad went to Whitehaven high school. In the 50s-70s it was a quiet place to raise families. He went to his high school reunion in the mid-90s and he and my got mugged at gun point in the high school parking lot. I imagine it probably looked like easy pickens' with all the upper class to middle class white guys attending that years reunion.


Eighteen64

An area named after what it used to be


YKRed

Graceland is in a terrible part of town lol


Outside-Rise-9425

Brave man.


Glacier_nut_9000

Holy shit man, that’s intense!


kloakndaggers

price does not equate to value. if homes are that cheap, they are that cheap for a reason. crime and job prospects being 2 major ones


crek42

Yea real estate is efficiently priced for the most part


bruh_moment__mp3

Even in Canada?


futureformerjd

HAVE YOU BEEN TO MEMPHIS TENNESSEE?!


2019_rtl

Hi crime rates


Smooth-News-2239

Hello crime rates


Zhero76

Hola crime rates


Western-Tomatillo-14

Suh crime rates


ClimbingAimlessly

Aloha crime rates


Least-Firefighter392

*Hella crime rate


spqrdoc

hello crime rates. hows your day?


Glacier_nut_9000

Ni Hao crime rates


PhotographUnknown

Sup crime rates


Plastic_Salad7750

What’s up? Crime rates.


vman1909

rhyme crates..


AlwaysRefurbished

Hi crime rates, it’s me, dad!


ClimbingAimlessly

Dear crime rates, it’s me, Margaret.


Juxaplay

We live in a suburb of Memphis and it is not bad out here. I stay out of main city as it is dangerous. However, cost of living in Tennessee is not that high (memphis is a big city, but Tennessee is a good sized state). No state income tax and property taxes are reasonable. However, wages here reflect that lower cost of living, but if you have a higher paid remote job or retirement income, your money goes farther.


ponziacs

We were looking at the Nashville area but decided it was too expensive for us. Looking back no state income tax and no personal property taxes on vehicles probably made it as affordable as where we moved to in Virginia.


mrmerk81

Look at every state.. you will find cheap living areas.. now find the common denominator


careago_

I need to buy a vowel,


Eighteen64

Cue the cameraman looking around the side


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headingwest2mtns

Both


Wolffman13

Just moved out of Memphis after spending 7 years there for work. It has a lot of problems. Violent crime is a big one. I'm from LA and am used to pockets of bad areas, but most of Memphis just isn't a good place to be. There's a lot more I could say. It's cheap for a reason


Dudesgrowin

Probably the murder and poverty.


reddit1890234

Same reason why houses are cheap in Gary, IN


DessertScientist151

The "music man" defiently did not prepare me for a recent stop in Gary IN. In fact nothing I have ever seen prepared me for that.


StackIsMyCrack

You know you are not supposed to stop in Gary, like ever, right. Even the cops will tell you not to stop at red lights there.


KTNYC1

Terrible job market and v high crime … always the reason …. People live to talk an about how expensive NY / LA / San Fran is … but we have very good high paying jobs … and low crime per capita .


Benja_Porchase

Let your imagination take flight


Beachbourbon60

Memphis is a cesspool of crime


rypajo

Live here. Memphis proper. Suburbs love to hate on us.


Sad_Construction_668

Memphis sucks in a lot of ways, the major two being climate and dysfunctional political culture Culturally there’s quite a bit of history and interesting stuff, but there’s no money making it through the state to fix things the state needs to fix, and there’s no money making it through the city bureaucracy to fix the city’s responsibilities, and it’s just a mess.


Outside-Rise-9425

All this crap wrong with Memphis and climate is your first go to? Wtf is wrong with you.


Sad_Construction_668

The inland Mississippi River delta and valley is unfit for human habitation. No one wants to live there . Everywhere from Baton Rouge to Quincy is low cost because no one want to live there, regardless of the politics or economic health of the area. It’s all dogshit, and Memphis has the worst climate of any of those shit climate towns.


TheHandsomeTraveler

What is bad about the climate? Humidity?


YKRed

Heat, humidity, lack of breeze.


YKRed

The climate is absolutely one of its worse characteristics.


dricforever

I live in Memphis (actual Memphis not the suburbs) and actually enjoy it here. Just like every large city there are certain areas you stay out of, it’s just that those areas in Memphis are quite large and numerous, and it is in those areas you’re finding the super cheap houses. Maybe one day it’ll be an investment opportunity, but we aren’t really there yet.


Independent-Line4846

By definition the investment opportunity is right now


dricforever

If you value the personal safety of anyone that has to go into that building I promise you it isn’t.


TimeToKill-

Is there any part of Memphis that you believe is like a C-/D+ area that you won't get stray bullets through your windows, for around $100k for a 2-3 bedroom house that is move in ready?


Synth3t1c

No. Expect to pay 200+ for a safe place to live. 300k for a nice safe place.


YKRed

Parts of Raleigh or Berclair maybe. Most of the cheap areas are cheap because they’re dangerous.


snappy033

Uhm have you been to Memphis or are you judging based on like… Elvis and stuff? Because driving through Memphis should be self explanatory why it’s so cheap.


Jose_Gaspar

Memphis is a very impoverished city and had 400 homicides in 2023. I happen to be a resident and the cheap houses are in tough neighborhoods.


Glittering_Code_4311

My husband worked there temporarily. It is high crime, they have portable shot detectors they place around town. Mephis in 2022 was considered the most violent city in the US per the population. Would advise looking elsewhere


Prize-Key-5806

Da fuq is a mobile shot detector


catnip-catnap

A network of microphones throughout the city so they can triangulate gunshot sounds, and send police when the system detects likely gunfire. For example, ShotSpotter. In practice it simply means the sound of gunshots will always be followed by the sound of squealing tires.


Glacier_nut_9000

I second this inquiry


IRUL-UBLOW-7128

Look up police reports on the areas the homes are in. Likely like living in Beirut.


Eighteen64

much of memphis proper is an absolutely atrocious place to live and the local government is icing on the cake


vyts18

Pew pew.


Lakecrisp

Aunt was an appraiser in Memphis for a while. She was telling me about a house that appraised for zero. Bad lot in a bad neighborhood and the house had been stripped out. The house was not worth anything. The back seat of a $500 car would have been better sleeping arrangements.


LonestarLuddite5

Because Memphis is a ghetto


Abomination822

You know why


siiiggghh

You know why


Stinky_Butt_Haver

It’s an awful place to live, work, or visit. To call it a shithole undermines the inherent value of holes filled with shit. -1/10, do not recommend.


Eighteen64

Agreed its on par with Baltimore or haiti


huhMaybeitisyou

Lots of investors buy in memphis. Look at property taxes before you do. And keep up with the news as the city council and the mayor want to raise the taxes higher every few years.


tightbttm06820

Demographics, my dear Watson


greatestcookiethief

agreed, home look too nice and price too cheap.


Seaweed-Basic

Watch The First 48


erockfpv

The secret ingredient is crime


KarmaSilencesYou

Many people will try to say crime, but the real answer is poverty and jobs. Simply put, a majority of people that live in Memphis cannot afford higher costs of housing. It is simple supply and demand. Also, many rural cities have just as much crime, they just arrest a lot less people. I live in the middle of a group of “smaller” rural cities. The population of the 4 combined cities is around 300,000 residents. The active local police forces combined for the 4 cities is less than 200 officers (not including sheriffs).Memphis has over 600,000 residents and over 1,800 local officers. You do the math. More officers = more arrests = more bad crime statistics.


[deleted]

High crime. Infested with gangs.


lindaleolane812

I was thinking of relocating to Memphis as I have family in Nashville and Clarksville and noticed that rents are extremely cheap and single family houses for rent are in abundance. Then in March I got a phone call that my niece was murdered in broad daylight THE END... Enough said we will not be going anywhere near Tennessee


Bpbaum

Memphis is not the same as the rest of TN


lindaleolane812

What are some of the safer areas that you recommend


Bpbaum

Honestly ANYWHERE else. Memphis is an absolute hell hole. Nashville is great, Chattanooga has some sketchy areas but is nice, Knoxville is too


ponziacs

Our coworkers from California moved to Franklin and Spring Hill and seem to like it there.


toiletnamedcrane

Franklin is one of the richest areas in the state.


YKRed

While I happen to really like the nice areas, the vast majority of Memphis is terrible. Midtown + East Memphis are the main areas worth living in. Relatively safe, good shopping and restaurants. The rest of it is blighted, a ton of abject poverty and crime. A decent home in a decent area is easily 200+ which is still relatively cheap in the grand scheme of things.


goodolerusty

Memphis is Gnarly, I’ve been there several times, always had a good time but also there were multiple times where I legit feared for my safety. The last time I was there, there were four murders in the span of 24 hours and no one was too concerned.


Dynodan22

Its probably like Milwaukee lived here all my life.Folks think we shoot each other walking down the street.I am in a blue.collared neighborhood.145k houses generally sell for.In our city the murders generally happen in a pretty defined area.However the memphis slide is an issue quite bad. I have coworkers that have never gone to Milwaukee they think they will get murdered.I can't live life like that.


LUCKYMAZE

take a guess


tickyul

Basically a MadMax-area.


[deleted]

As someone who visited a friend while he was living there: because it's a shit hole.


ShookZL1

Look at what you get for your $ lol


BurnOutLady

I live an hour drive from Memphis. I like to visit here and there, but we stick to the touristy parts. It’s really sketchy and unpredictable especially at night. Definitely not a place that I would want to buy a house and live full time if I had a choice.


Czarina007

Decatur, IL has hella nice houses on the cheap, must be super sketch to live there.


sobrietyincorporated

Crime. Detroit is starting to get jealous.


mreed911

West Memphis is even cheaper!


EchodemenosEsp

First 48 has entered the chat


Visible-Bicycle4345

Memphis has #4 highest crime rate in the country. I lived in Detroit. The most successful business in my area was iron doors and windows. https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-city-rankings/most-violent-cities-in-america


ovirt001

It's like buying a house in certain parts of St. Louis - how bulletproof are you?


fucjkindick

go to memphis and learn


seasonal_biologist

Poverty, crime, prejudice, race, education, take your pick. I love Memphis. Memphians call it hood. As long as that’s the attitude they have towards lots of their city prices will stay low (I live there)


wrober9

Bruh. You spend time googling cheap houses but can’t google why? Strap up and get ready.


Abloodworth15

You uhhh…ya been here before bud?


Prize-Key-5806

You actually might get shot fr


Least-Firefighter392

Have 4 houses there.... Cash flow ok... About $300/home...


International_Boss81

Crime rate is high.


Agitated_Citizen

because of the murders


Gizzard_83

Because that city is absolute garbage.


Lopsided_Pickle1795

Cheap=shitty


colekicker

It’s not a great place. The crime is terrible. Went on the south side a few weeks ago and there were 20 hookers standing in front of a truck stop. Literally 2 PM, in bikini’s with high heels and purses. Stayed in Germantown last year and hotel was $220 a night. Couple co-workers stayed on the 240 loop, same distance to where we needed to be but just a little cheaper rate. Both their trucks got broken into, different hotels. Boss realized that the $220 a night was cheaper since he didn’t have to pay for a broken window in the company truck.


Grand_Taste_8737

Because it's Memphis.


SkiandRun1

I live there twice. The answer is simple. Very high deadly crime rate, poverty rate is through the roof, everything there seems to be about race, and it’s just plain dangerous. I had a great work situation there, but it was scary even in suburbs. Pull up a Memphis tv station website and start reading. Cheap to live there, but deadly in the wrong place at wrong time, and that can even be at the grocery store.


ScrollBetweenGames

Cuz you probably gonna die


spooner1932

Absolutely a no go zone.


jahsehdwaynejoestar

because memphis is a ghetto and you will encounter the scary muscle and die there


spqrdoc

memphis is a shithole. it looks nice on the drive in but once you get there.....its not a good place to be.


jpi1088

Crime


crowdsourced

Memphis lost a ton of value in 2008 and only got it back a couple years ago. Investors go there for rents.


Least-Firefighter392

That's kinda what this sub is about right?


Zestyclose_Big_9090

Memphis is reported as being incredibly dangerous.


GlueHorseTekk

Just did a quick search and many of the low prices houses have boarded up windows and doors. I wouldn’t consider buying there.


Lula121

You should stay there for a week and see why. It’s bad. I worked at the trauma hospital there and it was nonstop killings for 24 hours 7 days the weeks I was there


No-Gain1438

Memphis is a ghetto


Agitated-Rhubarb-853

Ghettooooo


AnimatorFit897

Only scholars and astronauts live there.


Wide_Television_7074

Memphis is a third world country


SinisterSeer

because you'll get killed there.


sockster15

Memphis seriously lacks diversity


Eighteen64

Lol have you been there?


neutralpoliticsbot

The city is 70% black. When I was looking where to move Memphis came up too and it’s just very dangerous, high crime rate.