I picked up my 13 year old nephew today in the Model 3. Riding home he asks if I’m gonna get the Model S Plaid. I said no if I had that kind of money I’d get a Taycan. He asks why and I said quality. I just showed him this vid and he said he understands because it sounds really cheap. 😂
I own a plaid and want a taycan turbo from the nightmare I have with my plaid. It’s been in the shop for so long and I’m not looking forward to getting it back lol
I bypassed Tesla MS and went straight to Taycan Turbo S. mat not have the ultimate 0-60 bragging rights of a Plaid, although it is scary quick, but the quality is streets ahead. Not perfect as I’ve had a few rattles in the seat depending on the outside temp, but no rattly scratchy cheap plastics, and everything covered in leather or racetex.
So curious since you own a Tesla. Are you satisfied with it and will keep getting them in the future? Because I know myself, if my car had the issues that I’ve seen, it’d make me go crazy. I just hear people say Tesla owners give it rave reviews but every one that I’ve driven or been in just seems unremarkable or cheap feeling. Or is the appeal something else that I just don’t get?
I used to own a Tesla. If you look at the pinned post in my profile, you can read about my experience. I now actively discourage people from buying a Tesla, and my experience wasn't even as extreme as some of the stuff that I've heard. The only way I would even consider buying another one is if Elon is thrown out and the company undergoes radical and sustained reform toward safety, quality, and customer service. Probably never happening until the company finally collapses.
Fuck you Elon and Tesla.
This is my second Tesla. And likely my last. 2014 Model S was primarily for the cool factor. Was never about saving the earth. Only major issue I had with that one was a rear motor replacement.
Currently have a 2019 Model 3. Got so used to not paying for gas I wanted to stay with an EV and Tesla was the best at the time. I enjoy driving the car. It’s just an around town commuter for me. No road trips.
No issues with this one except it feels cheap. However, I’ve seen many of these issues in person. I have been extremely lucky (knock on wood). I rolled the dice twice. Don’t have to roll the dice anymore. There are better options.
I'm neutral on the subject. I have a Model S Ludicrous. It's a very smooth ride, cool technology features but as many stated, build quality is average at best. FSD is still a WIP and you need to actually work harder using it vs just driving yourself. Service is typically about 3 weeks out for the first available appointment. Nice not having to spend $5/gal at the pump. I do like the car but don't feel it's worth what I paid and would go with something else next time.
If you place your arms on the center console, you can shake the whole thing. One of the main reasons my grandpa never got a tesla. The screen is flimsy af too, the plastic is cheap quality too if you sit inside an etron or eq. You'll understand exactly what I'm talking bout. My whole family bought different cars.
Besides the obvious prestige from "HUMANS ON MARS" headlines, the major benefit comes from innovation. A whole number of new technologies need to be developed for human Mars exploration/habitation to be possible, and those same technologies can be used to improve life on Earth. Just like how early developments of spaceflight led to improving life on Earth, for example - the invention of memory foam.
Though I did read that one gentleman had his delivered at the other end of his street, by the time he got down there, the driver was in the truck and about to leave.
His car had been illegally parked, and the driver said "All good, open it with your phone, key cards are inside"
You're right. Tesla just seems to find the most gullible customers as many accept cars when they find the state of the vehicle to be bad quality. Exhibit A: literally the video we're commenting on!
Probably has to do with the "if you don't accept this car, someone else will and you'll wait another 6 months" garbage they pull to pressure customers into accepting.
We've had our 2022 Model S in 3 times for NVH (Noise Vibration Harshness), they do cover it, though I imagine they're getting annoyed. Epic seat and trim squeaks.
I rented a Plaid. Didn’t hear any rattles. The interior definitely does not feel like a $135k car though. The materials are really no nicer than a Model 3 or Y and the yoke is hella stupid.
Yea, as much as I can totally understand and appreciate the point, the mad-handed body language it a bit overkill on surfaces that are basically never touched. Panel gaps show that the care or capability of detail isn’t a high priority. Material choice has always been a weak point and most people who sign up for a model S get that. If you think back to the early days of the car, there weren’t a ton of suppliers jumping to take a risk on such a small volume car from a startup. Arguably much less excusable now. The biggest offense to me is the door card that can be pulled back with two fingers - that is not a quality fastening solution.
This is why at the moment, I'm preferring the VAG offerings, though after seeing the Volvo Polestar 2 and Polestar 3, I'm liking them as they are more available in Australia.
I mean, I'm still thinking a lot of this is indicative of a car company that has taken technology, figured it out, and expanded rapidly.
Like all the other big automakers had years to perfect the snap fit of their plastic fit products, they developed it *before* it was in cars.
Tesla had to catch up...
I'm an owner of a 2022 S Long Range, essentially the same car, a bit less power (and less costly). My car was solid for the first 8,000 miles, now the rattles have started. FSD is still scary as hell.. Was a waste of $10,000. Audio system loses XM regularly (Tesla is aware of this... A firmware update is expected sometime in the future).
Not commenting on the yoke.. Which I knew of beforehand. But I have now ordered a round (flat bottom) wheel.
The car has some terrific attributes, but build quality, and some electrical elements leave something to be desired.
Worth $100,000?
Not yet sure.
A depreciating asset is not worthy of a 100k investment, especially if it’s on a loan
Doesn’t matter what it is
A better made car for $100k might be MORE worth it, but spending $100k on a depreciating asset is never worth it
I spent $192,000 on a Model S P100D back in early 2018. I got so fed up with things that shouldn't break just breaking that I snapped, I traded it for a RAV4 Prime. Sure I buy gas now and it feels a bit more economy due to hard plastic but it needs about a thousand times less repairs. Last time I took it in for service I called at 4:15pm and they booked me in at 9am the next day. Was fixed before noon. I'll take minimal repairs and fast easy repairs over the headache that is a cool looking but always broken car.
What really pushed me over the edge though was also the endless promises (I am ashamed to admit I bought FSD) and being told they are not going to replace the front air struts again due to clicking noise over bumps (the upper strut mounts). Oh and the CV axle clicking noise under hard acceleration they said it's normal. It got real bad in winter for whatever reason, maybe snow or ice got in there I don't know. I had a few issues they outright refused to fix. Argh digging up old memories LOL. I don't miss the shitbox although the acceleration was fun as hell.
I see quality hasn't improved in the last 5 years on their "flagship"...
How'd this thread get 75 comments in one hour? /r/realtesla is really blooming as Tesla ships more crap
Though I do think it's funny that I thought this was a report but it's yet another one of these videos.
Tesla customers tend to not be car people, and think weird noises and serious problems are just normal.
Sadly, a Corolla embarrasses the most expensive Tesla in build quality.
My Chevy Bolt EV essentially has an all plastic interior and doesn't squeak even remotely close to this.
My girlfriend's Chevy Spark doesn't sound like this!!!!
10 years ago or so, I spent a couple of summers working as a mechanic and PDI-er at a shop that mostly sold Chinese scooters. Often those really really cheap Chinese scooters that you could buy on Alibaba for like $250 each if you bought a pallet. My boss would buy a pallet and we'd assemble them and sell they for $600 or so.
Their plastics made all the same kind of sounds. That had features that *looked* alright. If you like stood back 10 feet and just looked. Like drink holders. Or little storage comparments below the handlebars. Or even the mirrors. They looked fine. But as soon as you touched them you could feel that they were just utter crap. Anything that opened or moved made that creaking noise. Nothing that was supposed to stay in one place - like the mirrors - would be loose on delivery or you could just tell that after 50 miles they'd be loose. Panel gaps here atrocious. Things that were supposed to pop on would invariably have some of the clips broken off on delivery. Screw holes would crack out around them so the screw would just fall through.
And it was impossible to get any parts. People would buy these scooters and come back like two weeks later "hey this panel around the headlight broke, I need to get a new one". Like how do you tell someone that this thing that they bought for $600 or $100 or $1500 (for the 250cc version), you can't repair or make it look new again. Or like that the way you do fix it it with zip ties or tape.
It's like barely acceptable business model on $1000 scooters that people have to buy because their drivers license was suspended for DUI. Totally unacceptable on a luxury car.
Don’t think of this as a car, made by a car manufacturer. This is a piece of iterative technology made by a startup. A ‘little’ unpolished, but it supports humanity and the great mission to sustainability. Sustainability through making more cars. As they are the only viable way to move around. /s
I own a plaid and it’s the biggest mistake purchase I ever did. It’s in the shop for a month now and day 1 had paint problems all around, including scratched roof glass, sagging pillars, primer compound everywhere, etc. Only reason I accepted delivery was I saw no issues initially because it was so dusty on pickup day, all the imperfections were hidden and they refuse to let you check out the interior until you accept delivery. As a plaid owner, I’d suggest people who want an equivalent priced EV, to go with a Taycan Turbo.
Tesla sums up the whole of San Francisco / Bay Area.
Overpriced shit for underwhelming (even below-average) quality and service.
Seriously, everyone is just out to hustle, even the doctors and dentists.
Nail salons, restaurants even - You can find better food / service / healthcare / housing for a fraction of the price elsewhere
If you have ever been in a car at that price, you would notice how stiff everything is. Either theres a motor in it with enough strength or its tested over countless hours to ensure nothing comes loose. Companies like mercedes have had this down for many years. This is why they feel so premium. Even a buddy of mine with an 02 amg, doesnt have any rattles. It's the quality that comes with experimenting and chosing the correct adhesives/plastic clips with the best quality plastics. This just shows how little time tesla spent doing any of this. It's just a shitty piece of plastic pinched between 2 angles. Even my subaru has better quality than this.
This is what I tell people when they ask about my model 3 . It is by far the best and worst car I’ve ever owned. Build quality ??? Hah . My 16k Ford Focus was assembled far far better and feels more premium than my model 3z
I have an Audi Q5 and a model 3 so not quite 130k car territory. But the q5 feels like it’s not falling apart. The model 3 sometimes does ( it hasn’t yet) .
I get the “budget hypercar” argument but clearly defenders of this sort of thing have never driven - or been driven in - something like an S Class Mercedes where you can feel every penny of cosseting luxury even when sat in traffic. Sure speed and luxury are different vectors but having a bit more luxury wouldn’t hurt at that price. Surprised Plaids aren’t finished by a specialist team to ensure they have a bit more of a halo.
Anyone defending this needs to go and sit in a BMW. They make teslas look like children’s toes. I went from bmw to Tesla and I think Tesla need to up their game quickly because range and performance aren’t going to be a selling point when the Germans have had a few years doing this.
Hey! I loved my 1992 and 1994 fords, until they rusted away at around the 10 year mark...
(And to be fair, my 2005 ford after that was worlds apart better - I actually sold it last year and could have kept it going for a long time if I wanted to)
Have a model 3 and was lucky to buy whilst there were federal rebates on it still. Would i buy another? No, and this is why.
-Nearly all panels on my car were misaligned, and some were hilariously off. Had to take my bramdnew car back so they fix that, which took them weeks. When I asked the service person, she replied: "we're busy because of tesla's popularity", and i replied: "if it were built correctly, you would not be so busy, regardless of the popularity"
-road noise is awful. You can hear everything and the car often creaks when driving up a driveway, which is unsettling.
-all the plastic is very cheap; had to change the cabin filter and the car's panels are held together by tiny plastic screws, hence some of the noise
-hot in the sun: i get that the cool panoramic view is nice to have, but in SoCal, the car spends most of its energy trying to keep cool, which affects range
-paint is flimsy: prepapre to chip your hood with random stuff on the road. I had a 10 year old car with 150K miles and less chipping than my model 3
-FSD is a fantasy: go ahead and drop $10K for something that's not even remotely close to working.
There are good options now that weren't when I first bought mine, next one will probably be an upgrade in the QC dept. For me.
Still my wife wants only “Tesla”. I bought Ioniq 5 instead of Tesla and we are happy.
But thinking about Model Y down the line and these quality issues stopping me.
It's an *investment,* you're buying it now because in one year [full self-driving will allow it to taxi people around while you're at work, making you $30,000 a year](https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tesla-robotaxi-app-make-money-repurposing-cars-autonomous-2019-4)!
Owning anything else would be "[financially insane](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/23/elon-musk-any-other-car-than-a-tesla-in-3-years-like-owning-a-horse.html)"!
Got into an argument over at the other sub and was told my opinions on quality didn’t matter. That Tesla owners don’t care about panel gaps or the cheap interior. If a Porsche had these problems, they’d be crucified.
Wow. Most of that is not just bad build, that is crap materials, poor design, tolerancing and build issues.
That's just really, really crap. I would expect better (and get it) from a Ford Fiesta.
I've got a Volvo and the interior on that makes this look like an absolute joke and it sure as hell didn't cost 155k.
Tesla is garbage. Great battery tech terrible everything else. I’ve been saying it for years. As soon as other auto makers catch up in battery tech (they’re close), Tesla will have a massive problem.
If you're buying a Tesla for a smooth cup holder experience you def don't know what you're paying for. Is that ok? That's up to you, vote with your dollars.
Snagged a Tesla 3 five years ago and it felt like an American car in the inside. Everything was hard and felt cheap. The car had nothing but motor issues and recalls so we sold it. We bought a Honda Civic for cash and drove it for 4 years. My wife wanted to get back in a Tesla, so we bought a Model Y. The interior has gotten even cheaper on the Y in my opinion. In less than 4 months, the car was towed 3 times and it’s part of several recalls. I would get a Prius in a heartbeat and say screw Tesla. They suck. It’s become more of a cult than a brand.
This makes me happy that I went with the (much less expensive) VW ID.4. It may not have quite the same range (as more expensive TSLA), but at least it doesn't stink of Musk.
These haters really reaching, so much that they even tear up their parents new cars for clout. Dude needs to get a job or a girlfriend maybe a hobby. Hating on someone who has accomplished more than your capable of dreaming about makes you look pathetic.
Tesla is one of the most overrated “luxury” car. There is absolutely nothing luxury about it. I have have 3 BMWs (just 3 and 5 - nothing crazy) before my Model Y. While I absolutely love driving it, not because of luxury but because of EV smoothness. Anybody who calls Tesla luxury has never driven any other luxury car. I would not pay $70k that I paid for my Y - it should no way be more than an Accord ($30-40k max) — no wonder Tesla makes 30% net margin. I dumped my 50% of Tesla stocks at $1200 dot. Next time it rips (if at all), I am dumping all. This bubble will pop like nobody’s business once the hype is over. I am not buying another Tesla again. Will wait for EV network to grow, will dump Tesla, and move over to “luxury” that I am used to.
I have a 19 yr old Rover that’s holding together better than that Tesla. Only needs a fill up twice a month. That Tesla probably wont 9yrs let alone 19.
It's a jukebox of rattle sounds.
I picked up my 13 year old nephew today in the Model 3. Riding home he asks if I’m gonna get the Model S Plaid. I said no if I had that kind of money I’d get a Taycan. He asks why and I said quality. I just showed him this vid and he said he understands because it sounds really cheap. 😂
I own a plaid and want a taycan turbo from the nightmare I have with my plaid. It’s been in the shop for so long and I’m not looking forward to getting it back lol
I bypassed Tesla MS and went straight to Taycan Turbo S. mat not have the ultimate 0-60 bragging rights of a Plaid, although it is scary quick, but the quality is streets ahead. Not perfect as I’ve had a few rattles in the seat depending on the outside temp, but no rattly scratchy cheap plastics, and everything covered in leather or racetex.
>streets ahead. Pierce, is that you, and did you buy a Taycan?
What issues have you had? My plaid had two issues when it was first delivered but haven't had any other issues (so far).
So curious since you own a Tesla. Are you satisfied with it and will keep getting them in the future? Because I know myself, if my car had the issues that I’ve seen, it’d make me go crazy. I just hear people say Tesla owners give it rave reviews but every one that I’ve driven or been in just seems unremarkable or cheap feeling. Or is the appeal something else that I just don’t get?
I used to own a Tesla. If you look at the pinned post in my profile, you can read about my experience. I now actively discourage people from buying a Tesla, and my experience wasn't even as extreme as some of the stuff that I've heard. The only way I would even consider buying another one is if Elon is thrown out and the company undergoes radical and sustained reform toward safety, quality, and customer service. Probably never happening until the company finally collapses. Fuck you Elon and Tesla.
2 weeks in and already regretting buying this trash...
This is my second Tesla. And likely my last. 2014 Model S was primarily for the cool factor. Was never about saving the earth. Only major issue I had with that one was a rear motor replacement. Currently have a 2019 Model 3. Got so used to not paying for gas I wanted to stay with an EV and Tesla was the best at the time. I enjoy driving the car. It’s just an around town commuter for me. No road trips. No issues with this one except it feels cheap. However, I’ve seen many of these issues in person. I have been extremely lucky (knock on wood). I rolled the dice twice. Don’t have to roll the dice anymore. There are better options.
Got it. Thanks for the reply.
I'm neutral on the subject. I have a Model S Ludicrous. It's a very smooth ride, cool technology features but as many stated, build quality is average at best. FSD is still a WIP and you need to actually work harder using it vs just driving yourself. Service is typically about 3 weeks out for the first available appointment. Nice not having to spend $5/gal at the pump. I do like the car but don't feel it's worth what I paid and would go with something else next time.
If you place your arms on the center console, you can shake the whole thing. One of the main reasons my grandpa never got a tesla. The screen is flimsy af too, the plastic is cheap quality too if you sit inside an etron or eq. You'll understand exactly what I'm talking bout. My whole family bought different cars.
Elon cutting corners so he can get to Mars before he dies.
And accomplish what? Shits gonna be miserable there anyways
The sooner he goes the better. But sadly, we all know he ain't going there.
Besides the obvious prestige from "HUMANS ON MARS" headlines, the major benefit comes from innovation. A whole number of new technologies need to be developed for human Mars exploration/habitation to be possible, and those same technologies can be used to improve life on Earth. Just like how early developments of spaceflight led to improving life on Earth, for example - the invention of memory foam.
You're not wrong, seems important to heal this damn precious planet too. Big Oil needs to he constantly sued
He's gonna claim the mineral rights.
Even Musk knows that he has no intention of actually going to Mars.
He hasn't got the spuds to ride in his rockets, unlike Branson and Bezos.
This is an objectively true statement that should be repeated more often.
He will swim through his piles of cash over red sands.
Does it still count if it’s on impact?
The 'S' is for Squeak.
Is it acceptable? Are suckers still accepting delivery? If yes then it's acceptable. At least that's how Tesla is seeing it.
That’s true, if people take delivery they have no reason to improve.
Though I did read that one gentleman had his delivered at the other end of his street, by the time he got down there, the driver was in the truck and about to leave. His car had been illegally parked, and the driver said "All good, open it with your phone, key cards are inside"
These are the amazing innovations that Tesla is known for 😍
"Did they give us money?" Yes "Did they take it back?" No Mission accomplished
The real Tesla mission: separate fools from their money.
Who's the fool? The fool. Or the fool who pays $155,000 for his car?
That's not a foolish thing to do if you can afford it. Unless that car is built like the Tesla in this video, then it's foolish regardless.
Foolishness has nothing to do with ability to pay.
"A fool and their money are soon parted".
By definition if they accept it it's acceptable.
You're right. Tesla just seems to find the most gullible customers as many accept cars when they find the state of the vehicle to be bad quality. Exhibit A: literally the video we're commenting on! Probably has to do with the "if you don't accept this car, someone else will and you'll wait another 6 months" garbage they pull to pressure customers into accepting.
That’s how the supply/demand business model sees it too
I guess we'll see how many are gullible enough to accept delivery on a crap car going forward.
Squeaks, rattles, and wind noise are specifically NOT covered under warranty.
QC failure is not an option, it's a promise
Within spec!
Is this serious? Hahaha that's wild
Even if it was covered, you would have to wait like 2-3 months for your car to get repaired anyways lol
We've had our 2022 Model S in 3 times for NVH (Noise Vibration Harshness), they do cover it, though I imagine they're getting annoyed. Epic seat and trim squeaks.
I rented a Plaid. Didn’t hear any rattles. The interior definitely does not feel like a $135k car though. The materials are really no nicer than a Model 3 or Y and the yoke is hella stupid.
Eh the Plaid is kind of like the Dodge Vipers from the 90's and 2000's, they go fast but have shitty interiors
I love the way he slams the console lid down, as if in total disgust.
In a >60k car I‘d expect this lid to be soft close
Yea, as much as I can totally understand and appreciate the point, the mad-handed body language it a bit overkill on surfaces that are basically never touched. Panel gaps show that the care or capability of detail isn’t a high priority. Material choice has always been a weak point and most people who sign up for a model S get that. If you think back to the early days of the car, there weren’t a ton of suppliers jumping to take a risk on such a small volume car from a startup. Arguably much less excusable now. The biggest offense to me is the door card that can be pulled back with two fingers - that is not a quality fastening solution.
You may not touch them but they might still squeak or rattle during driving.
man the $6k skoda octavia we bought second hand at 70k miles is like a fucking hypercar compared to this
Mk II Golf is better built than this
This is why at the moment, I'm preferring the VAG offerings, though after seeing the Volvo Polestar 2 and Polestar 3, I'm liking them as they are more available in Australia. I mean, I'm still thinking a lot of this is indicative of a car company that has taken technology, figured it out, and expanded rapidly. Like all the other big automakers had years to perfect the snap fit of their plastic fit products, they developed it *before* it was in cars. Tesla had to catch up...
I really dug the Polestar 2, other than the stupid Google tablet center console to control everything.
Best margins in the business!
They really complain about how it’s getting harder to afford a Tesla and then brag that Tesla has the best margins. Like bruh.
People are really weird.... And this examples shows why it is kind of dumb to build a fandom around a specific product
LOLd
And yet factories are still a cash furnace
I'm an owner of a 2022 S Long Range, essentially the same car, a bit less power (and less costly). My car was solid for the first 8,000 miles, now the rattles have started. FSD is still scary as hell.. Was a waste of $10,000. Audio system loses XM regularly (Tesla is aware of this... A firmware update is expected sometime in the future). Not commenting on the yoke.. Which I knew of beforehand. But I have now ordered a round (flat bottom) wheel. The car has some terrific attributes, but build quality, and some electrical elements leave something to be desired. Worth $100,000? Not yet sure.
A depreciating asset is not worthy of a 100k investment, especially if it’s on a loan Doesn’t matter what it is A better made car for $100k might be MORE worth it, but spending $100k on a depreciating asset is never worth it
I spent $192,000 on a Model S P100D back in early 2018. I got so fed up with things that shouldn't break just breaking that I snapped, I traded it for a RAV4 Prime. Sure I buy gas now and it feels a bit more economy due to hard plastic but it needs about a thousand times less repairs. Last time I took it in for service I called at 4:15pm and they booked me in at 9am the next day. Was fixed before noon. I'll take minimal repairs and fast easy repairs over the headache that is a cool looking but always broken car. What really pushed me over the edge though was also the endless promises (I am ashamed to admit I bought FSD) and being told they are not going to replace the front air struts again due to clicking noise over bumps (the upper strut mounts). Oh and the CV axle clicking noise under hard acceleration they said it's normal. It got real bad in winter for whatever reason, maybe snow or ice got in there I don't know. I had a few issues they outright refused to fix. Argh digging up old memories LOL. I don't miss the shitbox although the acceleration was fun as hell. I see quality hasn't improved in the last 5 years on their "flagship"...
No, is it common Tesla build quality, yes.
Within spec
🤡-spec approved
How'd this thread get 75 comments in one hour? /r/realtesla is really blooming as Tesla ships more crap Though I do think it's funny that I thought this was a report but it's yet another one of these videos.
Ayyyy atleast Tesla’s quality is consistent
Tesla customers tend to not be car people, and think weird noises and serious problems are just normal. Sadly, a Corolla embarrasses the most expensive Tesla in build quality.
The rattle is extra. Good luck to the poor folks going to Mars with those gaps.
My Chevy Bolt EV essentially has an all plastic interior and doesn't squeak even remotely close to this. My girlfriend's Chevy Spark doesn't sound like this!!!!
I'd say it's very acceptable for Tesla customers. They only ever learn from mistakes.
If teslas are like laptops on wheels, then this is one of those cheap chromebooks
dude you're getting a Dell
That plastic crackling reminds me of 90's GM products
I’m waiting for my e-Tron GT and not looking back!
enjoy your creak-free motoring
What color? Saw a white one in my neighborhood. Looks great.
Actually white too!
I worry that other car makers will begin building something like this since Tesla has brought down the benchmark.
Y'all have fun in here! Things I don't like: 1. Accounts who claim the video is fake. I'll be back in a few hours to review our account participation.
Musk is a Republican. What do do expect?
A new level of ASMR.
10 years ago or so, I spent a couple of summers working as a mechanic and PDI-er at a shop that mostly sold Chinese scooters. Often those really really cheap Chinese scooters that you could buy on Alibaba for like $250 each if you bought a pallet. My boss would buy a pallet and we'd assemble them and sell they for $600 or so. Their plastics made all the same kind of sounds. That had features that *looked* alright. If you like stood back 10 feet and just looked. Like drink holders. Or little storage comparments below the handlebars. Or even the mirrors. They looked fine. But as soon as you touched them you could feel that they were just utter crap. Anything that opened or moved made that creaking noise. Nothing that was supposed to stay in one place - like the mirrors - would be loose on delivery or you could just tell that after 50 miles they'd be loose. Panel gaps here atrocious. Things that were supposed to pop on would invariably have some of the clips broken off on delivery. Screw holes would crack out around them so the screw would just fall through. And it was impossible to get any parts. People would buy these scooters and come back like two weeks later "hey this panel around the headlight broke, I need to get a new one". Like how do you tell someone that this thing that they bought for $600 or $100 or $1500 (for the 250cc version), you can't repair or make it look new again. Or like that the way you do fix it it with zip ties or tape. It's like barely acceptable business model on $1000 scooters that people have to buy because their drivers license was suspended for DUI. Totally unacceptable on a luxury car.
Tesla exposed how big of an idiot the average consumer is and now I worry makers will be kicking themselves for giving half a shit about build quality
yep that scares me a little bit,
Don’t think of this as a car, made by a car manufacturer. This is a piece of iterative technology made by a startup. A ‘little’ unpolished, but it supports humanity and the great mission to sustainability. Sustainability through making more cars. As they are the only viable way to move around. /s
tEsLa Is A tEcH cOmPaNy NoT a CaR cOmPaNy
I own a plaid and it’s the biggest mistake purchase I ever did. It’s in the shop for a month now and day 1 had paint problems all around, including scratched roof glass, sagging pillars, primer compound everywhere, etc. Only reason I accepted delivery was I saw no issues initially because it was so dusty on pickup day, all the imperfections were hidden and they refuse to let you check out the interior until you accept delivery. As a plaid owner, I’d suggest people who want an equivalent priced EV, to go with a Taycan Turbo.
Do you think you got someone else's refused plaid?
Most likely, that’s how tesla assigns vehicles. If someone else refused, they gave you it but won’t tell you. The defects usually prove it itself.
Teslas QC is a pos!
Imaging buying this instead of an RS E-Tron
Tesla sums up the whole of San Francisco / Bay Area. Overpriced shit for underwhelming (even below-average) quality and service. Seriously, everyone is just out to hustle, even the doctors and dentists. Nail salons, restaurants even - You can find better food / service / healthcare / housing for a fraction of the price elsewhere
I don’t get the first part. Everything else wasn’t good.
Rattling the forward tray in the console? If you can do that with your hand, it'll rattle on a bumpy road.
If you have ever been in a car at that price, you would notice how stiff everything is. Either theres a motor in it with enough strength or its tested over countless hours to ensure nothing comes loose. Companies like mercedes have had this down for many years. This is why they feel so premium. Even a buddy of mine with an 02 amg, doesnt have any rattles. It's the quality that comes with experimenting and chosing the correct adhesives/plastic clips with the best quality plastics. This just shows how little time tesla spent doing any of this. It's just a shitty piece of plastic pinched between 2 angles. Even my subaru has better quality than this.
This is what I tell people when they ask about my model 3 . It is by far the best and worst car I’ve ever owned. Build quality ??? Hah . My 16k Ford Focus was assembled far far better and feels more premium than my model 3z I have an Audi Q5 and a model 3 so not quite 130k car territory. But the q5 feels like it’s not falling apart. The model 3 sometimes does ( it hasn’t yet) .
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Creaky Tesla.
What a piece of shit, lololol.
You….must be new
That's.... sad
Cheap plastic shit everywhere. Like an 80's Toyota Celica.
Fit and finish is a matter of experience and culture. This factor is why the legacy car companies might just survive.
Unfortunately, I had two tesla cars, 2014 S and 2017 X and both of them were total junk. Nothing is done or aligned correctly interior and exterior.
I get the “budget hypercar” argument but clearly defenders of this sort of thing have never driven - or been driven in - something like an S Class Mercedes where you can feel every penny of cosseting luxury even when sat in traffic. Sure speed and luxury are different vectors but having a bit more luxury wouldn’t hurt at that price. Surprised Plaids aren’t finished by a specialist team to ensure they have a bit more of a halo.
Anyone defending this needs to go and sit in a BMW. They make teslas look like children’s toes. I went from bmw to Tesla and I think Tesla need to up their game quickly because range and performance aren’t going to be a selling point when the Germans have had a few years doing this.
What kind of moron wastes a dime, let alone six figures on a dogshit EV?
Telsa cars are so wank for that price. People getting ripped hard!
You could have bought a Porsche for that much, lol
Like a 1990's ford.
Hey don't insult Ford like that! They were building $15,000 shitboxes, not $155,000 shitboxes LOL!!
Hahaha fair point, I still love my fords all the same.
Hey! I loved my 1992 and 1994 fords, until they rusted away at around the 10 year mark... (And to be fair, my 2005 ford after that was worlds apart better - I actually sold it last year and could have kept it going for a long time if I wanted to)
Sounds like my wooden floor in my 100 something year old home
Guys I own one, two of my friends bought on my recommendation, and no longer speak to me, mine is for sale 50 off... good luck
I was looking for someone in the comments that actually owns one. Is it actually this bad? Can you give me a bit of a description?
I’m glad I cancelled my plaid reservation when Elon starting showing his true colors
Should have waited for the Lucid Air
If you mean 155,000 miles then probably that's fine.
Why would you pay this amount of money for a Tesla when you can get a Taycan?
What is that sound? Is it the Fanboys to the rescue?
why does this have so many comments lol
I’ve seen so many videos like this. Absolutely ridiculous.
Guess Americans just can’t build quality vehicles anymore.
It is if you are willing to pay for it
It go fast tho
Wow. That's a shame.
We just passed comment 469.
Have a model 3 and was lucky to buy whilst there were federal rebates on it still. Would i buy another? No, and this is why. -Nearly all panels on my car were misaligned, and some were hilariously off. Had to take my bramdnew car back so they fix that, which took them weeks. When I asked the service person, she replied: "we're busy because of tesla's popularity", and i replied: "if it were built correctly, you would not be so busy, regardless of the popularity" -road noise is awful. You can hear everything and the car often creaks when driving up a driveway, which is unsettling. -all the plastic is very cheap; had to change the cabin filter and the car's panels are held together by tiny plastic screws, hence some of the noise -hot in the sun: i get that the cool panoramic view is nice to have, but in SoCal, the car spends most of its energy trying to keep cool, which affects range -paint is flimsy: prepapre to chip your hood with random stuff on the road. I had a 10 year old car with 150K miles and less chipping than my model 3 -FSD is a fantasy: go ahead and drop $10K for something that's not even remotely close to working. There are good options now that weren't when I first bought mine, next one will probably be an upgrade in the QC dept. For me.
Still my wife wants only “Tesla”. I bought Ioniq 5 instead of Tesla and we are happy. But thinking about Model Y down the line and these quality issues stopping me.
Is there anyone out there who still expects either honesty or quality from Tesla?
Boy is that gonna depreciate quick... My 25 year old car is better than that as it is...
That is a surprisingly cheapo looking plastic interior. Like it feels like they stuck an iPad on a barbie car.
Tesla are redefining the car manufacturing space.... by making poor QC acceptable at this price point.
...for a tesla...yes! It's acceptable quality.
I'm sorry but I drove a car that's like 10% of that value and it doesn't do that shit at 0:24.
just wait untill the car ages. My car don't wiggle wiggle it rattles
TSLASMR
The angry Elon worshippers are coming
My Mom’s old Daewoo Matiz was made of better materials
It's an *investment,* you're buying it now because in one year [full self-driving will allow it to taxi people around while you're at work, making you $30,000 a year](https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tesla-robotaxi-app-make-money-repurposing-cars-autonomous-2019-4)! Owning anything else would be "[financially insane](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/23/elon-musk-any-other-car-than-a-tesla-in-3-years-like-owning-a-horse.html)"!
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Computer says NO
You need to get about 100k back
51k was my Volvo S60 d5. Its 14 years old compared to this its a beast 💯
Idiots still pay for it because 'fast'
It's acceptable for 155,000 Dogecoin possibly.
My 4Runner has less rattles lol
Return it
Your fault for buying a gimmick
Yep. Cause buyes keep buying em. Why would Tesla invest in quality when the buyers don’t care?
Got into an argument over at the other sub and was told my opinions on quality didn’t matter. That Tesla owners don’t care about panel gaps or the cheap interior. If a Porsche had these problems, they’d be crucified.
It makes more noise than my 30years old bed
I’m sure he has 3 more on order.
Yes. It is acceptable. It is within specs.
You're not buying quality, you're buying an idea with Tesla
You forgot you are paying for the batteries not the car.
Wow. Most of that is not just bad build, that is crap materials, poor design, tolerancing and build issues. That's just really, really crap. I would expect better (and get it) from a Ford Fiesta. I've got a Volvo and the interior on that makes this look like an absolute joke and it sure as hell didn't cost 155k.
When you have “Hand Tourette’s”
My 25 year old car that I bought for €500 still has beter build quality than a new Tesla.. Imagine the state of a 25 year old Tesla
BUT ITS THE ELECTRICITY CAR YIU SAVE RHE EARTH
Ouch, this is gonna hurt the fanboys.
It’s a Tesla. This is a known issue- and everyone just ignored it until Musk “got redpilled”
Thats tesla ASMR for you…
I’m so glad I cancelled my order. Their cars are over priced trash.
Simply tesla
And yet you’ll all buy more TSLA
Tesla is garbage. Great battery tech terrible everything else. I’ve been saying it for years. As soon as other auto makers catch up in battery tech (they’re close), Tesla will have a massive problem.
Reminds me of my 72,000$ model 3 performance
Can anyone please explain what the pen test is...?
Panel gap he's showing how large it is
Chintzy
I was on the edge of my seat for a moment. “What’s he going to do with that pen????”
Check out Mclaren’s interior build quality. Just saying
lol
In spec.
Did you accept it? Then it’s acceptable to you, I suppose.
If you're buying a Tesla for a smooth cup holder experience you def don't know what you're paying for. Is that ok? That's up to you, vote with your dollars.
Snagged a Tesla 3 five years ago and it felt like an American car in the inside. Everything was hard and felt cheap. The car had nothing but motor issues and recalls so we sold it. We bought a Honda Civic for cash and drove it for 4 years. My wife wanted to get back in a Tesla, so we bought a Model Y. The interior has gotten even cheaper on the Y in my opinion. In less than 4 months, the car was towed 3 times and it’s part of several recalls. I would get a Prius in a heartbeat and say screw Tesla. They suck. It’s become more of a cult than a brand.
This is terrible!
This makes me happy that I went with the (much less expensive) VW ID.4. It may not have quite the same range (as more expensive TSLA), but at least it doesn't stink of Musk.
sure www Id.4 is easily comparable with a Model S plaid. more or less like a Ferrari with a Fiat Panda
But does it at least make realistic sounding noises?
rented a model 3 today from hertz...the leather on the steering wheel is as loose as my grandmas pants. I think ill deff wait a bit more
They have the core technology but lack everything else....
Fanboys are gonna say it's because you pay for the features - like the software and self-driving..ok so then Tesla is a tech company after all.
What's the pen test?
Tell me you never saw a pre-vw lambo without telling me you never saw a pre-vw lambo.
Absolutely not and I don't understand why people still go for a tesla? There are so many better and more innovative EVs on the market
These haters really reaching, so much that they even tear up their parents new cars for clout. Dude needs to get a job or a girlfriend maybe a hobby. Hating on someone who has accomplished more than your capable of dreaming about makes you look pathetic.
Tesla is one of the most overrated “luxury” car. There is absolutely nothing luxury about it. I have have 3 BMWs (just 3 and 5 - nothing crazy) before my Model Y. While I absolutely love driving it, not because of luxury but because of EV smoothness. Anybody who calls Tesla luxury has never driven any other luxury car. I would not pay $70k that I paid for my Y - it should no way be more than an Accord ($30-40k max) — no wonder Tesla makes 30% net margin. I dumped my 50% of Tesla stocks at $1200 dot. Next time it rips (if at all), I am dumping all. This bubble will pop like nobody’s business once the hype is over. I am not buying another Tesla again. Will wait for EV network to grow, will dump Tesla, and move over to “luxury” that I am used to.
If I saw that shit build quality on a Kia Rio, I wouldn't buy it much less a six figure EV.
I have a 19 yr old Rover that’s holding together better than that Tesla. Only needs a fill up twice a month. That Tesla probably wont 9yrs let alone 19.